"...hand-picked by GOP leaders as the most likely to win."

THIS IS THE KEY PROBLEM!!!  GOP LEADERS WAKE UP!

You do not pick our candidates, WE do!  The people who show up at the caucuses and the townhalls.  WE are the party, NOT YOU!!!

You forced John McCain on us.  You gave us Nixon, Ford, Dole, Bush I, and Bush II.  The only reason you allowed us to nominate Reagan is because you had no choice.

The GOP had better wake up soon, because if they stick us with a bunch of Lindsay Grahams and Arlen (Dem) Specters, they are going to get hammered again - and it will be the whole country that will suffer for it.

RINOs need to be made extinct - otherwise the country's doomed.

CA has it right. They need us more than we need them. Besides, who betrayed who? The GOP and its elitist inside the beltway "insiders" created this mess and we're just supposed to "sheeple" up and trust their so-called "judgement"?

             It has nothing to do with being democrat or republican. It is about getting rid of the corruption that is running rampant in our government. From the oval office to the house majority leader to the life long members of the senate & the house of representatives. There is corruption in both parties. We will not turn the other cheek, anymore. We want, we demand,justice in this country. The lies about the CIA, the elected servants calling the people that put them in office terrorists, is going to stop. Their words are poison, but WE the PEOPLE have the cure. They are puppets of Soros, & we are cutting the strings.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

 "Should Republicans distance themselves from the Tea Parties out of pragmatism, or stay true to the grassroots and risk losing their shot at a 2010 comeback?"

This stupid statement reflects the exact reason why Republicans have lost the last two elections. Hasn't the McCain fiasco taught Republicans anything?

The only way a RINO can win any election is by pretending to be a Conservative.

So, what was that stupid statement again? 

aposematic in VA

           Consider the facts. GE sold radar equipment to Hitler. Soros was a Nazi collaborator. Now they own our elected servants and the media. Why should we keep these people in office? With very few exceptions, they are all corrupt.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

  How bad were they? What is there to distance from?

  Maybe this might give Republicans some perspective on what kind protestors need distancing.

1968: May 25—First campus protest against ROTC is held at Michigan State University in East Lansing by pacifists during ROTC Field Days.

December—Students for a Democratic Society (SDS, a radical left-wing student group) conference in Ann Arbor, Mich., plans its campaign to “crush Rotsee.”

1969: Feb. 3—Harvard University faculty votes to deny credit for ROTC courses and to deny ROTC officers recognition as members of the faculty.

—Yale in New Haven, Conn., follows suit, with a biology professor declaring that “much of the philosophy of the military runs counter to that of the university, and besides, low-level trade-school courses have no place at Yale.”

Late February—1,000 students protest ROTC at the State University of New York in Buffalo. Yippie leader Jerry Rubin eggs protestors on by waving a Viet Cong (VC) flag.

April 9—SDS torches a Marine Corps classroom at Harvard. Demanding an end to ROTC, 40 SDS members take over the religion lounge at nearby Northeastern University, but are forced to flee by 2,000 pro-ROTC students.

April 15—Thousands of students march on the University of California—Berkeley’s ROTC building, sparking a five-hour battle with police.

May 6—SDS sets fire to the ground floor of the ROTC building at Harvard.

—Student mobs torch the ROTC building and physically attack cadets at Stanford University in California.

Oct. 15—100 SDS members ransack the Air Force ROTC office at Buffalo, burning its files and books. At Kent State University in Ohio, SDS members run alongside cadets, screaming, “Kill, Kill, Kill!” Harvard’s student newspaper, Crimson, comes out in favor of a Viet Cong victory.

1970: Feb. 26—1,000 students attack ROTC offices on the Buffalo campus.

February—SDS raids an ROTC dance at Pennsylvania State University in University Park.

March 12—Students ignite a bonfire in front of the ROTC building at Buffalo. Chanting “Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh—NLF is Gonna Win!” they burn a U.S. flag.

March/April—SDS firebombs the ROTC building at the University of Colorado—Boulder.

April—Ohio State University at Columbus is wracked by violent confrontations over ROTC.

April 30—Students firebomb ROTC buildings at Maryland, Michigan State, Washington, Wisconsin and Yale universities.

May—This month witnesses the greatest display of campus violence in U.S. history. During the first week of May alone, ROTC buildings explode or ignite at the rate of more than four a day.

—Students launch a “hit-and-run” attack on the ROTC building at the University of Maryland in College Park.

May 2—1,000 students set fire to the ROTC building at Kent State. Torching it a second time that night, it is destroyed. They slash fire hoses and throw rocks at firefighters. Kent State is a prime target because it hosts the Liquid Crystal Institute, a research facility tied to military projects.

May 6—Students firebomb ROTC offices on the Buffalo campus.

Aug. 24—Four student radicals bomb Sterling Hall, housing the U.S. Army’s Mathematics Research Center at the University of Wisconsin in Madison, killing a physics researcher.

1970-71 Academic Year: 110 campus incidents against the ROTC occur compared to 400 in 1969-70—“the school year that was one of guerrilla and psychological warfare against the presence of military men on campus,” says U.S. News.

1972: April 17—3,000 students march on the ROTC building at the University of Wisconsin, smearing blood on its walls.

April—Demonstrators attack ROTC offices at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst.

—800 students occupy the new ROTC building at Kent State.

May 9: Students firebomb various ROTC buildings on campus.

1972-1973 Academic Year: only 60,395 students are enrolled in ROTC. Vietnam War ends for U.S.

Full article from VFW magazine here.  

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

I knew it would only be a matter of time before the RINO establishment in the beltway struck back.

You all had your chance. John McCain was supposed to be a winnable candidate because he could attract moderates, and how did that work out for you? Arlen Spector? Olympia Snowe? If I'm going to end up with government healthcare and liberal judges either way, what's the point of voting?

And aside from that, you can't give us credit for "breathing life" into your party and then simultaneously say we are a hindrance.

Tell you what. You go off with Schwarzenegger and your Sierra Club friends, take your little copies of the Weekly Standard, and you revive the Republican party without us. Then we'll see who really needs whom more. Those moderate voters aren't known for donating money, showing up at rallies, or scrapping for you on the blogs.

Without the work of sites this like, or the research done by Fox News, ACORN would still be working on the census and the first healthcare bill would have passed in August. What were you guys busy doing all summer? Twiddling your thumbs.

Conservatives, gird your loins, because this is the beginning. We're not in a fight strictly against Democrats. We're fighting the swamp in DC, and that means confronting some Republicans too.

Remember back in the spring of 2008. Remember the frustration of watching McCain steal the GOP nod. Remember that feeling in your gut that the powers that be in your party were working against you. Remember feeling powerless that they were going to get what they wanted regardless. That same machine is getting to work once more. Don't get caught by surprise this time.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

chooses losers to run for office.

Led by the nose, the republican party chose John McKainnedy to run for President.  They chose well in this instance because the loser lost.

That was who the leftist media wanted and the party 'leaders' cowered in fear of negative press, opting for another loss of the Presidency instead.

The republican party can die in its sleep any time now.  It's dead from the top down anyway.

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You are right and you are wrong at the same time. The Republican Party is out of touch is true enough. We need conservative candidates in order to win, true enough. The problem is that we cannot be divided. This is how the Democrats win most of the time. We will argue over who is the best candidate who most matches our political ideals and then a United Democrat front takes the election. This is the very real danger. A third party is not a real working option because it divides us again, it is how Clinton got Elected the first time, remember.

We need to be able to re-form the Party from within somehow. If enough people communicate with the Party Apparatus and can raise enough issues before the primaries it might be possible for better Candidates to be selected.

The only way, without the Party support we can succeed is if a Majority of Americans join us but the reality is much different. At least 25% to 30% will vote along Party lines no-matter what the ticket. The mushy middle has always decided elections. You cannot change the minds of true believers. The problem we face is that in the Republican Party we are dividing what should be the base, the true believers. Once that happens it takes ALL of the remaining voters that can be swayed to win an election. That really can never happen.

We need a New Leader to rise up, within the Party, such as Reagan did, in order to not only win elections but to re-define the Party. It has happened before, and will happen again. I wish this were not true. I wish we could throw all the bums out, the lot of them. Reality says otherwise, at present. The Majority of Americans have to be behind a unified choice in order to win and the more we divide the less chance we have.

I have no real solutions and this is what frustrates us. It is why we have lost our voice. It is why some of the Founding Fathers were against Political Parties but there is no real practical way to organize and have a large enough voice without them. The Political Parties are The Problem and they are also the only possible solution. Now that my friends is a real paradox.

Republicans in power now will be having no comeback.  They're all going to be voted out.

Those Republicans are free to do as they will as they are "RINOs" anyway, involved in politics for personal gain and glory - not the people.

Those Republicans that feel they should distance themselves from TEA Party proponents don't "get it" at all.

And those Republicans that so easily painted the entire TEA Party movement with the same brush used by the smarmy and hate-filled left, have ensured their removal from office come 2010 and 2012.

"Should Republicans distance themselves from the Tea Parties out of
pragmatism, or stay true to the grassroots and risk losing their shot
at a 2010 comeback?"

It sounds as if you attribute no risk to the reverse. Did you let the "conservative" nwhas write that line?

Hi. My name is John Q. Public, but some just call me racist.

I don't even know what to say to such a silly question, except this: the grassroots IS the party. The grassroots ELECTS the leaders. If the GOP wants to be a national party, it will heed the grassroots. The Beltway buttholes have had their day and they lost. 

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"Should Republicans distance themselves from the Tea Parties out of pragmatism, or stay true to the grassroots and risk losing their shot at a 2010 comeback?"

Just what have the Republicans have been staying true to in the past? They've been getting beat in elections because they haven't really stood for anything lately, except trying to get re-elected. You can't stay true to something if you weren't there to begin with.

"Do you consider your position so weak, that it cannot withstand a debate?" - Lt. Commander Data

Both sides of this discussion are missing a big point: the Tea Partiers are not just Republican.  Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and independents were at the Tea Parties.  Blacks, whites, hispanics, and asians were at the Tea Parties.  And if between 1 and 2 million people with jobs and responsibilities, who have never before attended a political protest, can make time away from their jobs and responsibilities to protest, then it seems to me that BOTH parties had better wise up, else they'll both find themselves out in the cold wondering what happened.  

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

The GOP stands for nothing right now.  Its not the party of no its the party of "what can I do/sell to keep my job".   Congress is nothing but a bunch of feudal lords taking our money to use it to buy votes.

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The Emperor, he has no clothes

I'm always amazed at how stupid some polititions are in the Republican party here in NJ. If they don't win the primary, they take their ball and go home! Christie is trying to hold off a democrat crook and a so called independant stooge being promoted by the democrat party. Either Loneghan must come out in support of Christie or Christie must ask Loneghan for his help. We here in NJ still have not figured out how the democrats keep winning here!

Using the Hoffman/Scozzafava example, I think shows ignorance of recent polling in the area.  Hoffman is more than a third-party candidate, he could very well win with 37% of the vote in that district.

Which, with Scozzafava's leftist appeal, could concievably happen -- two liberals and one conservative running in the same race; plus, when the special-election rules of politics are factored in (turnout is king), Hoffman stands a very good chance of winning that race.

Now,  when you pick up on the rumors that the RNC hasn't contributed a dime to the Scozzafava campaign -- and that they're desperate for money...

I don't know if the NRCC thought this far ahead on this game, but could this possibly be the NRCC splitting the opposition's votes with a ridiculously left-leaning candidate?  That'd be some serious strategic thinking, but if they DID...that'd be loads of fun :D

Why are the RINOs sooo stupid?  Even the blue dog democrats kiss their bases ass!

Blue dogs will whore out to the dingbats.  If a gay tells a democrats to bend over, the democrat does it.  They'll go gay for gays.  They'll speak spanish, cross illegals through TJ, and screw over border patrol for the hispanic votes.  They'll curse their own ethnic background and piss on their white mothers grave for a black vote.  

 But the stinking RINOs won't work for the votes for the Republican base?  WTF is that?

 There is no single Democrat that would turn down an invitation to a gay pride parade, not a single one.  They'll cross dress, give oral sex, they'll kiss their asses until their lips bleed.

 Yet, a protest against government excess is just way too much for a Republican?  It's like the virus that the California GOP caught is spreading.  If the GOP wants any freaking chance in 2010, embrace the damn tea parties.  Make some noise.  Tell people you are tired as hell and aren't gonna take it anymore.

Drill by Sarah Palin:

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Some in the repub party really remain clueless and keep ramming RINOs down our throats.

Newt Gingrich did it again today...which isn't his first time either, not by a long shot...this is regarding the RINO mentioned in the topic of the OT.

They wonder why many, no millions of conservatives have had it past up to here with them.

No money to them as far as I am concerned.

Risk losing what by the way...we've been doing that for for years in many ways with these Beltway Big-Wigs...I've had my fill.

There are real conservatives running against the RINOs and the RNC etc will lose at their own hands.

Btw...not only Newtie supporting this gal...so does Dailykos and ACORN.

I want my country back...and it isn't going to be with RINOs...

I support all the Tea Party Patriots!

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

Actually, the GOP that we have right now needs to get the hell out of our way and quit cow-towing to the Libs.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

WooWoo (to quote my nephew) Jay Leno just made a bonafied joke about Obama.  It wasn't that hard was it Jay?

I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this- I saw it today on FoxNews around noonish. HotAir just got around to linking it. This is really incredible. Makes your heart ache instantly, but remarkably there's a happy ending.

I sure am glad Obama has brought us to the "post-racial" era.  If we're "post", I would hate to see a modern racial era.

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It's 0700 Saturday. Where's the blinkin' blankin' Saturday Sports Thread??  (><)

Gary

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