I have noticed an interesting trend in the past 24 hours. The trolls have disappeared....
They have all seemed to stay on the ground and not willing to come up for the argment. What does this say? Perhaps that they realize it is not a worthy fight to try and support the Nobel Committees awarding of the that obviously un-earned honor to "The One."
The one "Trolling Event" that I could identify was a pair of drive-by's by Critical Thinking that put one in mind of the classic WWII air mission of "Pips" Priller over the invasion Beaches on D-Day. Just a zip on through and keep moving....
Our own much vaunted Luftwaffe consisting of the latest incarnations of Leon, Hater, etc all seem to be sitting on the ground.
"watches" and a crash & burner, watcherkatt. Hmmm.
Per a link on the OT yesterday by slickwillie, we suspect these trollsters may be part of Eric Holder's newest effort to combat conservatives, Obama's Shlock Hoodlems of Internet Trolling (h/t Free Stinker).
As usual, there's only one response for these bridge dwellers, to wit:
I noticed the invasion by the trolls yesterday also. If they were sent by eric holder, and thats the best they have, it's no wonder the country is going to pot
I hope some of the big sites like this one, Hotair, Pajamas, etc, do some IP sniffing to see where the trolls are coming from. They would not be so stupid (?) to use a WH or Justice domain, but they may be coming from the same one. They may also be working from home, which will be more difficult to detect.
Under President George W. Bush, this would have led to a Congressional investigation.
"Obama's Attorney General, Eric Holder, has apparently hired a cadre of left-wing, Democrat campaign bloggers to troll through the Internet looking for news stories and blog posts that denigrate the Obama agenda. After such websites are found it is the job of these secret lefty bloggers to leave comments that come to the support of Obamaism in the comments sections."
OTOH, if they want to come openly as Obama's representatives, it would be a real hoot. But that wouldn't last long, as the Obamtrons are completely outmatched in a battle of wits.
Obama's supporters are getting paid to do so. Anyone with half a brain wouldnt bother trying. BTW all of these policies are going to backfire. The American folks do not cotton to having their Gov back-talk them!!
I have long believed some of the screen names we have here are different bloggers taking shifts and this article makes my tin hat a little less big. It would be fun to see if we could root out this form of corruption on NB. But I fear it might devolve into witchhunt so maybeits a bad idea.
Whatever the situation I find the governmnet renting nerds to ferret out bad vibes about Duh Vain One disturbs me.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
Bush is still getting bashed like crazy over there, really dose make one wonder. Plus you can ask any lib over there "why" and they never provide any evidence of their claims. Kinda like talking to an automated robo call?
I can't promote it enough: Krauthammer is a must read today.
Krauthammer gave a speech this week, and the text of it is available here. It's longer than the usual 750-word pundit article, but it repays patience.
I especially like his description of the deliberate neutering of American dominance, and the (pseudo-)intellectual basis for it as a policy. Wonderful.
Thank you for posting the link, KC. I agree with you re: Krauthammer. He is always unapologetic in his opinions. I respect that sort of intellectual honesty.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
This is a keeper. I printed it after I read it, because I really want to be able to study what the good doctor had to say.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Dr. Krauthammer should have his own program on Fox, during which he can just sit there and tell us stuff. Any topic, baseball to world conditions, I'll listen. Saturday evening at 7:00 PT [with a repeat at 10:00 PT] is vacant; why not then?
Chai
“When all government...in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided...” Thomas Jefferson
Olympia Snow (D-ME) is clearly heartened by the CBO score that keeps the cost of the bill below $900 billion and pays $81 billion to the Social Security Trust Fund.
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"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
It's starting already. There are news stories of a shortage of the flu vaccine. My 11 month old son had his first of two doses and his appointment for the second dose was cancelled because they ran out of the vaccine. The last time there was a flu vaccine flap, Hillary Clinton was out in front of every microphone she could find saying "Bush fell asleep at the switch." I wonder how she'll react to it this time. Probably still Bush's fault?
It's only a prelude to Gov-controlled health care. Shortages. Incompetance. Total lack of planning. No one in charge; no one responsible. Un responsiveness.
Very predictable. Un-reported by the MSM. Not understood by misguided Dims. Well understood by Dim leaders, though. Incompetance is what keeps them in power.
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"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
Maybe not Bush this time, but the "evil" drug companies who are only interested in profits and don't give a crap about the children. Obamacare will see to it that all the children are safe - except for those yet unborn.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
I think you hit it on the head. The funny thing about Dems is that they are so predictable. I'm waiting for the Pelosi/Reid press conference about this. Good call.
Maye they are playing us--so many people have doubts (from all the so-called misinformation) that they don't want it--but if it's scarce--whoa babies, got to have it!
I've heard, though, for those of us who were around for the last Swine Flu epidemic (i.e. over 35)....a regular flu shot ought to provide sufficient protection.
Regular flu shot for me.
Although I have to say, with all the hoopla, I'm alot more careful out in public, now. Hand sanitizer and all that. Which is probably a good thing.
I am leery of the H1N1 with the adjuvents (boosters), two v one shot, mist v shot, thimerisol, etc. What is up with the Canadian study (unpublished) that says if you have the seasonal shot, you have twice as much of a chance of getting H1N1?. Not sure I buy that one! Ack! Reading all these threads is making me feel a little...unwell.
There is a great deal of information floating around the internet, and, the information evolves on a weekly basis. The best site for up to date and unadulterated information is from the CDC. The site gets technical, but, consulting your physician will help in better understanding what's happening.
Addressing your concerns:
None of the approved influenza A 2009 (H1N1) monovalent vaccines or seasonal influenza vaccines contains adjuvants (1--5).
Number of doses is predicated upon which manufacturer is used and how old the patient is. (see table at bottom of page) Multiple doses may be needed to adequately stimulate appropriate immunity (as well as the longevity of that immunity). Multiple injections is not uncommon for vaccines (eg polio, MMR, DTaP, etc) though is unusual for "flu" vaccines. It is what it is, and should be understood within the context of the herculean effort of dwindling vaccine manufacturers (thanks a lot Liberals and Lawyers!) to respond so quickly to the challenge while still manufacturing typical seasonal flu vaccines. The technology is tried and true but the capacity to produce is limited.
Mercury is found in some but not all h1N1 vaccine preparations. (see table referenced above) There is no credible data documenting vaccine thimersol as the cause of autism or other disorder. Still, due to public perception, vaccine makers work to eliminate thimersol from vaccines to avoid controversy.
The nasal spray version of the vaccine has Live Attenuated Virus while the rest of the vaccine types, all injections, use Inactivated (killed) Virus bits to stimulate immunity. The Swine Flu vaccine of 1976 used LAVirus. Seasonal flu vaccines have used inactivated virus since then (for the most part). Both versions are safe. Both versions can have complications ranging from being inefective to causing flu if not made properly. I am unaware of people getting the flu from the vaccine for as long as I can remember, so the manufacturers must be doing a proper job of making the vaccine.
Blonde: Over 35? ;) I don't know if you're talking about the same swine flu "epidemic", but in the late 70's there was a swine flu "scare" and the government pushed for people to get vaccinated in anticipation of an outbreak. The swine flu "epidemic" didn't materialize. It's believed that the vaccine caused more illness than it prevented in the way of Guillaun-Barre (sp?) syndrome. I did get the vaccine at the time and suffered no ill effects. Not sure if it can be proven that the vaccine stopped an epidemic from developing. Of course, the safety and effectiveness of vaccines has been much improved. I get a regular flu shot every year and I'll be getting the H1N1. Despite the overall fear this virus is causing, it's my understanding that the H1N1 vaccine isn't any more risky than other flu vaccines. The processes used to develop and test them is pretty standard by this point in time. Of course, I defer to my m.d. to help me determine benefit vs. risks. I can only speak for myself. But at a time when I worked in a pharmacy during a major flu outbreak, I was the only one employed by the pharmacy who got a flu shot and I was the only one who didn't get the flu.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
The Swine Flu epidemic of 1976 did not really pan out as you said. While most believe the vaccine caused the spike in Guillian-Barre, maddingly, science has not proven the connection, so it remains equivocal in science circles.
I am unsure about your safety claims concerning vaccines. Maybe so. I just don't know. It has been my understanding that vaccines are made pretty much the same way as before. Maybe someone on the forum can clarify. Maybe one improvement is in storage - more than a couple physicians have carried on about their alarm monitored refridgeration setup to me. (Sheesh!)
Effectiveness of flu vaccine is dicey. Sometimes the scientists select the "right" strains" for production, sometimes not. The vaccine, though, is still good but may not protect what eventually comes around to the USA from elsewhere.
You are correct in that the H1N1 vaccine appears to be as safe as the seasonal flu vaccine. Since the process in making the vaccines is essentially the same in both cases, the safety profile should be similar. Side effect profile may differ though - I have read that local SE's, such as pain and swelling, and incidence of headache may be greater with H1N1 vaccine. No difference in serious side effect between the two. (do not have a reference for this - it's just from memory)
Speaking of pharmacies and, by extension, drugs, the resistance of H1N1 to Tamiflu is at 0.5%. Tamiflu is the drug of choice in the appropriate settings.
The flap about "Bird Flu" just a couple of years ago?
I wish the old media,when reporting on H1N1 deaths, would include the count of those who died of seasonal flu during the same time period. And the fact that many, if not a majority, of those that died of H1N1 also had long-term health problems.
edited for clarification
Chai
“When all government...in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided...” Thomas Jefferson
Take a look at this page as well as the CDC H1N1 site in general for answers to your questions. Maybe FLU.gov may have something as well.
A couple of things to keep in mind:
The H1N1 Pandemic of 1918-1919 was either the direct or, typically, the indirect cause of death. Most died from a secondary infection that took up residence after H1N1 weakened the person first.
The H1N1 Pandemic of 1918-1919 affected young people disproportionately compared to "regular" seasonal flu's because the H1N1 virus stimulated an enormous immune response in those capable, such as young people, leading to the patient's own immune system creating further problems directly and indirectly (see above bullet point).
Older people, all with certain medical issues (eg respiratory, cardiac, endocrine(diabetes), immune), and babies/children with immature immune systems are at greater risk for complications from any infectious agent. However, it is thought that people alive during the last H1N1 pandemic in 1957may have at least partial immunity, hence, the otherwise healthy elderly are not at the front of the line for the H1N1 vaccine as they usually are for "seasonal" flu vaccine.
The conclusion is that although those with certain medical problems, the elderly, and the very young with immature immune systems are at higher risk for complications including death from any "flu" infection, the otherwise healthy young are dispproportionately experiencing morbidity and mortality (illness complications and death) from H1N1 infection due to the nature of the H1N1 mechanism of action.
Obama has said he'll be making a decision "in just a few weeks". What else is happening "in just a few weeks"? Oh yeah, the New Jersey and Virginia Governor's elections! Looks to me like he's stalling to either see which way the 'political winds' are blowing, or he's providing temporary cover for the Democrat candidates, taking away one more issue to hit them with. Or both.
sic: Not to mention that he's now beholden to those who awarded him the Nobel. It's really not such a difficult decision. Will he live up to the vow that every American president is required to make? Or will he throw the whole country under the bus for the sake of mollifying our enemies?
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
He hadn't started to fling the ten-dollar words (derisive, divisive, incisive) and conciliatory straddles around yet..Who nominates? I think this is an Obama-Thought-Control effort and it will work.
Dems say: More tax on cigarettes because I don't smoke and I shouldn't have to pay for people who do smoke.
Pay a tax for any trans-fat because I don't want to pay for people who weigh too much.
Pay a tax for sugar because it's not good for you.
Pay for other people to buy cars, stoves, funerals, etc. because they can't afford to buy their own.
Pay for Health Care for everybody because the non-working, but able, people need it. (maybe on a temp basis only)
I have held two full time low wage jobs at once when I had to. I have done without when I had to. I have held a full time job and gone to a training school so I could get a better job. I have never had to depend on any government for food, housing, and care for myself, wife and two boys.
Now that I am in a fairly good position, (I'm 68 yrs old) what is the legal reason, not moral reason, that I should pay for all the things that the Dems want to give everybody?
This just in the Taliban is making very serious moves in Pakistan. Fox news just reported that the Taliban has taken Hostages in the Pakistani Army Headquaters. I do not know more but this does not bode well.
GM is finalizing the sale of it's Hummer division to China for a reported 150 million dollars. The sale still needs final approval by the federal government.
This raises two questions.
As GM reported in their bankruptcy filings that Hummer was worth 500 million, why are selling an asset for less than 30 percent of it's worth?
As the sale also includes the transfer of patent rights, why is GM selling the patents of one of our most numerous military utility vehicles to a foreign country?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
So will Hummer be making military vehicles for both the US military and the PLA? Will the Hummer plant be dismanteled like all the other US factories down to the last nut and bolt and reassembled in China? Will our military vehicles now be made in China? Genius, sheer genius. At least we'll be getting cheaper vehicles for the military. <sarcasm>
“This bill is very important for the government because it
will allow for control of the press and of the impact the
government thinks the media has on public opinion,” said Carlos
Fara,
Hurrah,,,,,,,,,think anyone will ask Obama how he "feels" about Argentine taking free speech and free enterprise from their citizens? Does our soon to be muffled press have the courage? Of course not, being the cowards that they are.
I know that the Constituiton means nothing to the Messiah and the dems but how is he going to get around this?
"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State." Article 1 Section 9
By the way I called a Piece Prize because he has done nothing for peace. So he is wanting a piece of something. Do any of you recall the old 3 Stooges with Moe as Hitler? Moe says we want peace to which Larry replies yes a piece of the country and a piece of that one.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State." Article 1 Section 9"
Well, technically, he didn't accept anything from a King, Prince,or foreign state, did he? And it's not like Congress won't grant consent if necessary. Plus, he's not the first sitting president to win the award, so it's not like precedent hasn't been set. I don't think this argument is going anywhere.
Let's just call it what it is, and leave it at that: a lame award, for a lame guy, for a lame reason. Not only is he buddies with terrorists, now he shares an award with one too.
Barack Obama, your magnificent presence is urgently required in Pakistan to mediate the current terrorist hostage-taking crisis.
Although you are busy with much more important matters such as shooting a few hoops on a basketball court with members of Congress, and delivering yet another speech, this one to your gay throng, would it be possible for you to attend to this urgent crisis?
There is no need for you to rush into a decision in this regard - could you possibly make that decision within the next year or two? And yes, we do realize that if you do decide to travel to Pakistan, it will probably take a few more years for you to actually schedule and make that trip.
Just think - this would be a prime opportunity for you to "dress-down" to appeal to the average international citizen, by wearing a few of those fluorescent Hawaiian shirts which clutter your closet.
And you could bring in a few dozen of those plastic Greek columns that you used during your campaign, in order to convey an aura of drama for your involvement.
I’m sure that the international community regards you as truly deserving your awarded Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe you could order your accomplices in Oslo to manufacture a gigantic flashy medal for you to wear around your neck when you suddenly pop out from behind the curtains, wave to the adoring mass of TV cameramen, bow to the terrorists, and present them with iPods containing all of your magnificent speeches (minus the preponderance of "ummms and ahhhs"). Then you could snap your fingers, and vestal virgins would magically appear, out from a cloud of smoke, to offer framed official invitations for them to visit you to quaff a few brews on the White House Lawn.
Maybe you would also care to treat them to lavish transportation to the US aboard Air Force One, and top it all off by scheduling a gala ticker tape parade down Wall St. You could also present them with symbolic keys to America, although I doubt that they would require that formality, since the borders are currently extremely porous.
Barack Obama, are you man (... or instead, scratch that and substitute) boy enough to do your duty to ensure global peace? If so, please try to do it within our lifetime.
OK - now you’re free to resume your daily heavy repertoire of partying at taxpayers’ expense!
"Nationwide, small firms will spend $156 billion on health premiums this year," Landrieu wrote in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.
"In place of those high premiums, small business owners could employ 10
million additional workers—the entire state of Michigan—at minimum wage
for a year."
Is there no lie big enough that a Democrat won’t tell to pass a bill that rewards their campaign contributors and pet constituencies? So now we are being promised 10 million minimum wage jobs if we accept this nonsense? Gee wheez, I can't see how employing 10 million new citizens of amnesty for illegals could be bad? I mean after all we certainly don't want that money invested in plant and equipment. <sarcasm>
I knew that Mary Landfill could not be trusted. We will step up our efforts to turn her back around. She tells us one this, all the while skeeming against the wishes of her voters. I cannot beleive we re-elected this woman. Crap!
A guy came on to a facebook thread of a Republican friend of mine down in Florida and posted this:
"Obama's prize is a measure of how far the Bush administration pushed the United States, and the world, away from peace. So far away that Obama's small but fervent efforts in the opposite direction -- new diplomacy on Israel, Palestine, Iran, Russia and North Korea. He deserves it !!! :)
Shall we look back to...........In 1991, Aung San Suu Kyi won the prize in her jail cell, but the point was to support democracy in Burma (and 18 years later, she is still under house arrest). People need to look at the Big Picture and step outside the box. We as Americans should take pride in his award."
Now... when I read this stuff -- at this stage of the Twilight Zone game -- I simply can not tolerate it. At all. I wasted no time basically belittling and ridiculing this man, asking him exactly WHAT this new diplomacy was, and probably shocked him by telling him Bush did more to promote peace and democracy than any president in the last half century, or certainly since Reagan, by far. I did not call him any names, but firmly told him (in essence) what a complete fool he is.
To everyone: NO MORE MR. NICE GUYS/GALS when we encounter people who say the most moronic things ever. Show them for the fools they are!!
Perfect!! I might quote you in my follow up to Mr. Fool. :)
Also, this just in.... and hold your hat. The runner-ups to the wonderful, courageous, initiative-taking, peace-pursuing NObama:
Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for human rights in the PRC.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China's communist system. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square Massacre.)
Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly 80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan and Afghanistan over the past 15 years.
Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims.
Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N. special envoy to Darfur.
This is not a joke. I repeat..... Yes, it's true, The Vain Do-Nothing One won the award.
Exactly. What's to take pride in? It's like giving a trophy to the kids in little league that didn't win anything. So what does a trophy mean, if everyone gets one no matter what. That's absolutely nothing to take pride in.
No pride in the president of the United States being the "useful idiot." And praising such a thing is it's own form of idiocy.
"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the
world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the
Nobel jury said. Full text of the statement.
That's one way of saying "he's not done anything yet, but has captured the world by talking about doing something."
Funny art story; the NYT ran a story about the Bamster acquiring some art for the White House which I guess we are paying for. (Remember that horrid orange thing?) As a result of the publicity, one of the paintings, by an American painter named Alma Thomas, has been recognized as a knockoff of a 1953 Matisse.
Considering she's in her late 30s and had a back surgery or two and is in a bit of pain because of it, I'm impressed that she did this. As for her shape, that's pretty decent for 38.
Some of her fellow Baywatch actors haven't fared that well though. Every now and then you hear about how Hasselhoff drinks himself into a hospital and his poor daughter is the one calling for help on that all the time. Poor thing.
"...Barack Obama basked in new-found glory on Saturday, vowing to consider
his surprise Nobel Peace Prize as "a call for action" to address the
challenges of the new century..."
The "useful idiot" being used accordingly, though he doesn't even know it. He agrees with its purpose and vows to make his own purpose that which is the Nobel committee's purpose for awarding it to him.........and we, the American citizen, those with great respect of our sovereign Constitution and understanding of its greatness, will watch our Constitution lose it's sovereignty to this "useful idiot's" ego and disdain for our great nation.
And now that lop-eared knucklehead is saying he's going to end don't ask don't tell. Isn't that just peachy? Get set for a bunch more 'hate' crimes. They'll not put up with this crap for long.
This shows he really does hate our military. Because believe me, it isn't his, never was. Oh he thinks it is, his supporters think it is, but it really isn't. And don't bother citing no GD polls for me. You want to know the truth? Get in amongst the men on the ground. That's where you'll find your answers, not some damn poll. lol.
regarding Barack Hussein Obama's Nobel Peace Prize confirms my belief that these so-called "conservatives" are as conservative as the New York Times David Brooks, columnist David Frum or MSNBC's Joe Scarborough.
Mike Huckabee and Tim Pawlenty — both potential 2012 presidential contenders — urged restraint.
"There will be an outcry from those on the right who will say that Obama's nomination, made two weeks into his Presidency, is impossible to justify, but I think such an outcry will sound like right-wing whining," Huckabee said in a statement. "The better response is simply to allow those on the left to explain what he did in his first two weeks as President that merited such recognition."
Pawlenty, speaking on NPR, said there "will be some people who are saying 'Was it based on good intentions and thoughts or is it going to be based on good results?'"
"But I think the appropriate response is when anybody wins a Nobel Prize, that is a very noteworthy development and designation and I think the appropriate response is to say 'Congratulations,'" said the Minnesota governor.
"I'm here to tell you, if either of these two guys [McCain or Huckabee] get the nomination, it's going to destroy the Republican Party, it's going to change it forever, be the end of it. A lot of people aren't going to vote. You watch." ~ Rush Limabaugh (Jan 15, 2008)
I got some seriously mixed feelings about Huckabee now, especially after I saw his show that he said those things.(I watch it from time to time, he gets some interesting guests now and then) He seems like a nice enough guy, but dang, it seems like his views are all over the place, which is why I'm not a fan of his, not even a little.
That comment said about allowing the left a chance to explain what Soetoro did made me a little mad and a little disappointed, mad because we had different reactions (not the conservative ones, but on the left) that caused different responses in the sense that Soetoro himself said it's a call to action, not to mention he didn't turn it down(should have) since he said he didn't do anything. Of course, the NPP team had their reasons, much of which were anti-american anyway, not to mention rendering the the NPP ignoble as Joseph Farah said in his commentary.
Hasn't the left been given too many chances as it is? Was it one chance too many that's allowed the US to get into the position it's in today, which basically amounts to grabbing your ankles and holding on for who knows what? (unemployment, taxes and more taxes, freedoms being seriously eroded and people like Holdren who are calling for major population control with insidious ideas that are actually being considered for example)
A friend of mine prior to the end of the election day back on that fateful day in November said "Give Obama a chance, maybe he won't be that bad." He was trying to be optimistic. I said "Hell no I don't want to give him that chance, I know EXACTLY what he is and what he will do."(and told him) A couple of days ago, I talked to that friend and said "Told you so." He couldn't think of a thing to say in response except to say "You were right." He's fixing to graduate university and he can't find any prospects beyond a band teacher at middle and high schools.(nothing wrong with that) he's majoring in Music and wanted to get into the commercial sector with labels but whatever prospects he had were lost due to loss in revenue and unemployment rising.
More conservatives need to fight fire with fire. Otherwise, we'll be in a cold dark place soon. This week will tell the tale when the health care "vote" takes place(yes, I know, nothing on paper).
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October 10, 2009 - 09:19 ET by BDI have noticed an interesting trend in the past 24 hours. The trolls have disappeared....
They have all seemed to stay on the ground and not willing to come up for the argment. What does this say? Perhaps that they realize it is not a worthy fight to try and support the Nobel Committees awarding of the that obviously un-earned honor to "The One."
The one "Trolling Event" that I could identify was a pair of drive-by's by Critical Thinking that put one in mind of the classic WWII air mission of "Pips" Priller over the invasion Beaches on D-Day. Just a zip on through and keep moving....
Our own much vaunted Luftwaffe consisting of the latest incarnations of Leon, Hater, etc all seem to be sitting on the ground.
Come-on out guys, the flying weather is fine.
Oh we had a couple, BD
October 10, 2009 - 10:12 ET by Blonde"watches" and a crash & burner, watcherkatt. Hmmm.
Per a link on the OT yesterday by slickwillie, we suspect these trollsters may be part of Eric Holder's newest effort to combat conservatives, Obama's Shlock Hoodlems of Internet Trolling (h/t Free Stinker).
As usual, there's only one response for these bridge dwellers, to wit:
We need a better class of troll, here. ©
I hope he fails, too.
I noticed the invasion by
October 10, 2009 - 11:21 ET by kangarooI noticed the invasion by the trolls yesterday also. If they were sent by eric holder, and thats the best they have, it's no wonder the country is going to pot
Re Invasion
October 10, 2009 - 11:39 ET by slickwillie2001I hope some of the big sites like this one, Hotair, Pajamas, etc, do some IP sniffing to see where the trolls are coming from. They would not be so stupid (?) to use a WH or Justice domain, but they may be coming from the same one. They may also be working from home, which will be more difficult to detect.
Under President George W. Bush, this would have led to a Congressional investigation.
Thank You Blonde
October 10, 2009 - 14:52 ET by Free StinkerThank You Blonde
Your version of the acronym works a little bit better too. :-)
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
It was very clever of you
October 10, 2009 - 15:38 ET by BlondeI saw it last night, and couldn't find it, so I just kind of ran with it.
Glad you don't mind!
I hope he fails, too.
Re trolls
October 10, 2009 - 10:15 ET by slickwillie2001Maybe 'The Forehead' Holder called a strategy meeting? Maybe talking points said drop the Nobel issue?
The good news is that we can go back to ignoring Norway.
Hey slick
October 10, 2009 - 10:19 ET by BlondeCould you re-link that article?
And you may have a point.
I hope he fails, too.
Bamsters Blogger Boilerroom
October 10, 2009 - 10:39 ET by slickwillie2001The Obama Justice Department's Secret Blogging Team...Is It Legal? : http://www.redcounty.com
"Obama's Attorney General, Eric Holder, has apparently hired a cadre of left-wing, Democrat campaign bloggers to troll through the Internet looking for news stories and blog posts that denigrate the Obama agenda. After such websites are found it is the job of these secret lefty bloggers to leave comments that come to the support of Obamaism in the comments sections."
That's dispicable. OTOH,
October 10, 2009 - 13:42 ET by Ten7sThat's dispicable.
OTOH, if they want to come openly as Obama's representatives, it would be a real hoot. But that wouldn't last long, as the Obamtrons are completely outmatched in a battle of wits.
I always assume
October 10, 2009 - 13:58 ET by general companyObama's supporters are getting paid to do so. Anyone with half a brain wouldnt bother trying. BTW all of these policies are going to backfire. The American folks do not cotton to having their Gov back-talk them!!
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Amen that!
October 10, 2009 - 14:34 ET by RukusGary
If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -- Tom Paine
I have long believed some
October 10, 2009 - 15:53 ET by Dan The Man 2I have long believed some of the screen names we have here are different bloggers taking shifts and this article makes my tin hat a little less big. It would be fun to see if we could root out this form of corruption on NB. But I fear it might devolve into witchhunt so maybeits a bad idea.
Whatever the situation I find the governmnet renting nerds to ferret out bad vibes about Duh Vain One disturbs me.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
I also visit Fox Nation
October 10, 2009 - 17:49 ET by general companyBush is still getting bashed like crazy over there, really dose make one wonder. Plus you can ask any lib over there "why" and they never provide any evidence of their claims. Kinda like talking to an automated robo call?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Krauthammer
October 10, 2009 - 09:41 ET by KC MulvilleI can't promote it enough: Krauthammer is a must read today.
Krauthammer gave a speech this week, and the text of it is available here. It's longer than the usual 750-word pundit article, but it repays patience.
I especially like his description of the deliberate neutering of American dominance, and the (pseudo-)intellectual basis for it as a policy. Wonderful.
I agree. This is Dr. K at
October 10, 2009 - 09:55 ET by d1carterI agree. This is Dr. K at his best. He is the most articulate conservative writers of our time.
Thank you for posting the
October 10, 2009 - 10:04 ET by QueenMumThank you for posting the link, KC. I agree with you re: Krauthammer. He is always unapologetic in his opinions. I respect that sort of intellectual honesty.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Thanks, KC
October 10, 2009 - 10:10 ET by FeynmanFanThis is a great article, KC. Krauthammer has a real knack for putting complicated things in perspective and making sense out of chaos.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Thanks, KC
October 10, 2009 - 17:15 ET by ChaitealoverThis is a keeper. I printed it after I read it, because I really want to be able to study what the good doctor had to say.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Dr. Krauthammer should have his own program on Fox, during which he can just sit there and tell us stuff. Any topic, baseball to world conditions, I'll listen. Saturday evening at 7:00 PT [with a repeat at 10:00 PT] is vacant; why not then?
Chai
“When all government...in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided...” Thomas Jefferson
Denver breaks 100-year old
October 10, 2009 - 09:44 ET by ThisnThatDenver breaks 100-year old low temperature record cold.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
I'm tellin' ya - this
October 10, 2009 - 11:33 ET by misterbee241I'm tellin' ya - this global warming is going to freeze us to death!
Al the Groundhog has been awful quiet lately hasnt he?
I mean, he really does look like a groundhog:
http://www.nomadicsi...
"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."
Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941
How about this for a
October 10, 2009 - 09:47 ET by notonmywatchHow about this for a starting pt:
1st muslim country to get nukes is inches away from having them seized by literalist, nonlapsed (commonly called "extremist") muslims
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Democrat from Maine can be bought.
October 10, 2009 - 09:52 ET by ThisnThatOlympia Snow (D-ME) is clearly heartened by the CBO score that keeps the cost of the bill below $900 billion and pays $81 billion to the Social Security Trust Fund.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
Flu Vaccine
October 10, 2009 - 09:52 ET by mangIt's starting already. There are news stories of a shortage of the flu vaccine. My 11 month old son had his first of two doses and his appointment for the second dose was cancelled because they ran out of the vaccine. The last time there was a flu vaccine flap, Hillary Clinton was out in front of every microphone she could find saying "Bush fell asleep at the switch." I wonder how she'll react to it this time. Probably still Bush's fault?
Rot from the top
October 10, 2009 - 10:04 ET by ThisnThatIt's only a prelude to Gov-controlled health care. Shortages. Incompetance. Total lack of planning. No one in charge; no one responsible. Un responsiveness.
Very predictable. Un-reported by the MSM. Not understood by misguided Dims. Well understood by Dim leaders, though. Incompetance is what keeps them in power.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
Flu vaccine
October 10, 2009 - 10:07 ET by QueenMumMaybe not Bush this time, but the "evil" drug companies who are only interested in profits and don't give a crap about the children. Obamacare will see to it that all the children are safe - except for those yet unborn.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Yep
October 10, 2009 - 22:30 ET by mangI think you hit it on the head. The funny thing about Dems is that they are so predictable. I'm waiting for the Pelosi/Reid press conference about this. Good call.
Maybe
October 10, 2009 - 12:19 ET by StarAZMaye they are playing us--so many people have doubts (from all the so-called misinformation) that they don't want it--but if it's scarce--whoa babies, got to have it!
Star
October 10, 2009 - 12:37 ET by BlondeGood point.
I've heard, though, for those of us who were around for the last Swine Flu epidemic (i.e. over 35)....a regular flu shot ought to provide sufficient protection.
Regular flu shot for me.
Although I have to say, with all the hoopla, I'm alot more careful out in public, now. Hand sanitizer and all that. Which is probably a good thing.
I hope he fails, too.
Had regular shot,too
October 10, 2009 - 14:37 ET by StarAZI am leery of the H1N1 with the adjuvents (boosters), two v one shot, mist v shot, thimerisol, etc. What is up with the Canadian study (unpublished) that says if you have the seasonal shot, you have twice as much of a chance of getting H1N1?. Not sure I buy that one! Ack! Reading all these threads is making me feel a little...unwell.
StarAZ: There is a great
October 10, 2009 - 23:37 ET by stratmanStarAZ:
There is a great deal of information floating around the internet, and, the information evolves on a weekly basis. The best site for up to date and unadulterated information is from the CDC. The site gets technical, but, consulting your physician will help in better understanding what's happening.
Addressing your concerns:
Flu vaccines
October 10, 2009 - 14:50 ET by QueenMumBlonde: Over 35? ;) I don't know if you're talking about the same swine flu "epidemic", but in the late 70's there was a swine flu "scare" and the government pushed for people to get vaccinated in anticipation of an outbreak. The swine flu "epidemic" didn't materialize. It's believed that the vaccine caused more illness than it prevented in the way of Guillaun-Barre (sp?) syndrome. I did get the vaccine at the time and suffered no ill effects. Not sure if it can be proven that the vaccine stopped an epidemic from developing. Of course, the safety and effectiveness of vaccines has been much improved. I get a regular flu shot every year and I'll be getting the H1N1. Despite the overall fear this virus is causing, it's my understanding that the H1N1 vaccine isn't any more risky than other flu vaccines. The processes used to develop and test them is pretty standard by this point in time. Of course, I defer to my m.d. to help me determine benefit vs. risks. I can only speak for myself. But at a time when I worked in a pharmacy during a major flu outbreak, I was the only one employed by the pharmacy who got a flu shot and I was the only one who didn't get the flu.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Hi Queenmum.The Swine
October 10, 2009 - 23:58 ET by stratmanHi Queenmum.
The Swine Flu epidemic of 1976 did not really pan out as you said. While most believe the vaccine caused the spike in Guillian-Barre, maddingly, science has not proven the connection, so it remains equivocal in science circles.
I am unsure about your safety claims concerning vaccines. Maybe so. I just don't know. It has been my understanding that vaccines are made pretty much the same way as before. Maybe someone on the forum can clarify. Maybe one improvement is in storage - more than a couple physicians have carried on about their alarm monitored refridgeration setup to me. (Sheesh!)
Effectiveness of flu vaccine is dicey. Sometimes the scientists select the "right" strains" for production, sometimes not. The vaccine, though, is still good but may not protect what eventually comes around to the USA from elsewhere.
You are correct in that the H1N1 vaccine appears to be as safe as the seasonal flu vaccine. Since the process in making the vaccines is essentially the same in both cases, the safety profile should be similar. Side effect profile may differ though - I have read that local SE's, such as pain and swelling, and incidence of headache may be greater with H1N1 vaccine. No difference in serious side effect between the two. (do not have a reference for this - it's just from memory)
Speaking of pharmacies and, by extension, drugs, the resistance of H1N1 to Tamiflu is at 0.5%. Tamiflu is the drug of choice in the appropriate settings.
Remember
October 10, 2009 - 22:56 ET by ChaitealoverThe flap about "Bird Flu" just a couple of years ago?
I wish the old media,when reporting on H1N1 deaths, would include the count of those who died of seasonal flu during the same time period. And the fact that many, if not a majority, of those that died of H1N1 also had long-term health problems.
edited for clarification
Chai
“When all government...in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided...” Thomas Jefferson
Take a look at this page as
October 11, 2009 - 00:35 ET by stratmanTake a look at this page as well as the CDC H1N1 site in general for answers to your questions. Maybe FLU.gov may have something as well.
A couple of things to keep in mind:
The conclusion is that although those with certain medical problems, the elderly, and the very young with immature immune systems are at higher risk for complications including death from any "flu" infection, the otherwise healthy young are dispproportionately experiencing morbidity and mortality (illness complications and death) from H1N1 infection due to the nature of the H1N1 mechanism of action.
Afghan Troop Decision
October 10, 2009 - 10:06 ET by sic721Obama has said he'll be making a decision "in just a few weeks". What else is happening "in just a few weeks"? Oh yeah, the New Jersey and Virginia Governor's elections! Looks to me like he's stalling to either see which way the 'political winds' are blowing, or he's providing temporary cover for the Democrat candidates, taking away one more issue to hit them with. Or both.
sic: Not to mention that
October 10, 2009 - 10:15 ET by QueenMumsic: Not to mention that he's now beholden to those who awarded him the Nobel. It's really not such a difficult decision. Will he live up to the vow that every American president is required to make? Or will he throw the whole country under the bus for the sake of mollifying our enemies?
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
He was nominated two weeks into his term
October 10, 2009 - 11:15 ET by StarAZHe hadn't started to fling the ten-dollar words (derisive, divisive, incisive) and conciliatory straddles around yet..Who nominates? I think this is an Obama-Thought-Control effort and it will work.
Tax! Give! Help! More Taxes,
October 10, 2009 - 10:42 ET by Keith PhillipsDems say: More tax on cigarettes because I don't smoke and I shouldn't have to pay for people who do smoke.
Pay a tax for any trans-fat because I don't want to pay for people who weigh too much.
Pay a tax for sugar because it's not good for you.
Pay for other people to buy cars, stoves, funerals, etc. because they can't afford to buy their own.
Pay for Health Care for everybody because the non-working, but able, people need it. (maybe on a temp basis only)
I have held two full time low wage jobs at once when I had to. I have done without when I had to. I have held a full time job and gone to a training school so I could get a better job. I have never had to depend on any government for food, housing, and care for myself, wife and two boys.
Now that I am in a fairly good position, (I'm 68 yrs old) what is the legal reason, not moral reason, that I should pay for all the things that the Dems want to give everybody?
HATE SPEECH
October 10, 2009 - 11:58 ET by Libertydudehow dare you not worship the obama...
You must be one of those right-wing, bible tote'n. gun owning terrorists I've heard so much about.
just grab your ankles,don't wimper or moan and thank the obama you live in the USSA.
"what are you, a wise guy"- curley, the three stooges
There isnt one
October 10, 2009 - 12:23 ET by general companyLegal or Moral. You have done exactly what you needed to, no reason others cant either.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
It's for the children...
October 10, 2009 - 18:21 ET by ckc1227If it's for the children, it's covered by the general welfare clause of the Constitution. What, do you want the children to die or something?
/sarc
Taliban making very serious moves in Pakistan
October 10, 2009 - 11:07 ET by richb313This just in the Taliban is making very serious moves in Pakistan. Fox news just reported that the Taliban has taken Hostages in the Pakistani Army Headquaters. I do not know more but this does not bode well.
Is the Taliban
October 10, 2009 - 11:17 ET by StarAZIs the Taliban going to be in the Pakistan government too?
GM sells Hummer to China
October 10, 2009 - 12:04 ET by CobraManGM is finalizing the sale of it's Hummer division to China for a reported 150 million dollars. The sale still needs final approval by the federal government.
This raises two questions.
As GM reported in their bankruptcy filings that Hummer was worth 500 million, why are selling an asset for less than 30 percent of it's worth?
As the sale also includes the transfer of patent rights, why is GM selling the patents of one of our most numerous military utility vehicles to a foreign country?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
→ Interesting
October 10, 2009 - 12:07 ET by Cool ArrowI see a Chinese person in your armor.
So will Hummer be making
October 10, 2009 - 16:16 ET by dscottSo will Hummer be making military vehicles for both the US military and the PLA? Will the Hummer plant be dismanteled like all the other US factories down to the last nut and bolt and reassembled in China? Will our military vehicles now be made in China? Genius, sheer genius. At least we'll be getting cheaper vehicles for the military. <sarcasm>
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Obama's buds get more control over there citizens
October 10, 2009 - 12:52 ET by general company“This bill is very important for the government because it
will allow for control of the press and of the impact the
government thinks the media has on public opinion,” said Carlos
Fara,
Hurrah,,,,,,,,,think anyone will ask Obama how he "feels" about Argentine taking free speech and free enterprise from their citizens? Does our soon to be muffled press have the courage? Of course not, being the cowards that they are.
h/t Drudge
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Can Obama accept the Piece Prize?
October 10, 2009 - 13:37 ET by ricklailI know that the Constituiton means nothing to the Messiah and the dems but how is he going to get around this?
"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State." Article 1 Section 9
By the way I called a Piece Prize because he has done nothing for peace. So he is wanting a piece of something. Do any of you recall the old 3 Stooges with Moe as Hitler? Moe says we want peace to which Larry replies yes a piece of the country and a piece of that one.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
"how is he going to get
October 10, 2009 - 18:15 ET by ckc1227"how is he going to get around this?:
And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State." Article 1 Section 9"
Well, technically, he didn't accept anything from a King, Prince,or foreign state, did he? And it's not like Congress won't grant consent if necessary. Plus, he's not the first sitting president to win the award, so it's not like precedent hasn't been set. I don't think this argument is going anywhere.
Let's just call it what it is, and leave it at that: a lame award, for a lame guy, for a lame reason. Not only is he buddies with terrorists, now he shares an award with one too.
Here is a better one from
October 10, 2009 - 18:56 ET by ricklailHere is a better one from US Code. It specifically mentions the prez.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Taliban Terrorists Take Military Hostages in Pakistan
October 10, 2009 - 13:36 ET by DavoleBarack Obama, your magnificent presence is urgently required in Pakistan to mediate the current terrorist hostage-taking crisis.
Although you are busy with much more important matters such as shooting a few hoops on a basketball court with members of Congress, and delivering yet another speech, this one to your gay throng, would it be possible for you to attend to this urgent crisis?
There is no need for you to rush into a decision in this regard - could you possibly make that decision within the next year or two? And yes, we do realize that if you do decide to travel to Pakistan, it will probably take a few more years for you to actually schedule and make that trip.
Just think - this would be a prime opportunity for you to "dress-down" to appeal to the average international citizen, by wearing a few of those fluorescent Hawaiian shirts which clutter your closet.
And you could bring in a few dozen of those plastic Greek columns that you used during your campaign, in order to convey an aura of drama for your involvement.
I’m sure that the international community regards you as truly deserving your awarded Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe you could order your accomplices in Oslo to manufacture a gigantic flashy medal for you to wear around your neck when you suddenly pop out from behind the curtains, wave to the adoring mass of TV cameramen, bow to the terrorists, and present them with iPods containing all of your magnificent speeches (minus the preponderance of "ummms and ahhhs"). Then you could snap your fingers, and vestal virgins would magically appear, out from a cloud of smoke, to offer framed official invitations for them to visit you to quaff a few brews on the White House Lawn.
Maybe you would also care to treat them to lavish transportation to the US aboard Air Force One, and top it all off by scheduling a gala ticker tape parade down Wall St. You could also present them with symbolic keys to America, although I doubt that they would require that formality, since the borders are currently extremely porous.
Barack Obama, are you man (... or instead, scratch that and substitute) boy enough to do your duty to ensure global peace? If so, please try to do it within our lifetime.
OK - now you’re free to resume your daily heavy repertoire of partying at taxpayers’ expense!
Barack Hussein Obama - ... mmm, mmm, mmm!
New health care howler,
October 10, 2009 - 16:22 ET by dscottNew health care howler, Democrats now floating balloon that health care reform will create 10 million jobs.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/62417-senator-health-reform-could-create-10-million-new-jobs\
"Nationwide, small firms will spend $156 billion on health premiums this year," Landrieu wrote in an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.
"In place of those high premiums, small business owners could employ 10
million additional workers—the entire state of Michigan—at minimum wage
for a year."
Is there no lie big enough that a Democrat won’t tell to pass a bill that rewards their campaign contributors and pet constituencies? So now we are being promised 10 million minimum wage jobs if we accept this nonsense? Gee wheez, I can't see how employing 10 million new citizens of amnesty for illegals could be bad? I mean after all we certainly don't want that money invested in plant and equipment. <sarcasm>
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Holy cow
October 10, 2009 - 17:03 ET by general companyI knew that Mary Landfill could not be trusted. We will step up our efforts to turn her back around. She tells us one this, all the while skeeming against the wishes of her voters. I cannot beleive we re-elected this woman. Crap!
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
IT IS TIME, PEOPLE....
October 10, 2009 - 17:11 ET by MrShyA call to (metaphorical) arms....
A guy came on to a facebook thread of a Republican friend of mine down in Florida and posted this:
"Obama's prize is a measure of how far the Bush administration pushed the United States, and the world, away from peace. So far away that Obama's small but fervent efforts in the opposite direction -- new diplomacy on Israel, Palestine, Iran, Russia and North Korea. He deserves it !!! :)
Shall we look back to...........In 1991, Aung San Suu Kyi won the prize in her jail cell, but the point was to support democracy in Burma (and 18 years later, she is still under house arrest). People need to look at the Big Picture and step outside the box. We as Americans should take pride in his award."
Now... when I read this stuff -- at this stage of the Twilight Zone game -- I simply can not tolerate it. At all. I wasted no time basically belittling and ridiculing this man, asking him exactly WHAT this new diplomacy was, and probably shocked him by telling him Bush did more to promote peace and democracy than any president in the last half century, or certainly since Reagan, by far. I did not call him any names, but firmly told him (in essence) what a complete fool he is.
To everyone: NO MORE MR. NICE GUYS/GALS when we encounter people who say the most moronic things ever. Show them for the fools they are!!
Thank you.
Holy Cow!!
October 10, 2009 - 17:16 ET by motherbeltnew diplomacy on Israel, Palestine, Iran, Russia and North Korea. He deserves it !!! :)
New diplomacy effort:
Israel: Quit griping and give up!
Palestine: There is no "Palestine" but to Hamas etc: Just be patient....we're working on it.
Russia: Say what??
North Korea: Whatever....
Iran: We won't bother you, but I'm here if you ever want to talk....no conditions.....
Yup....Mr. "Peace in our time."
MB
October 10, 2009 - 17:50 ET by MrShyPerfect!! I might quote you in my follow up to Mr. Fool. :)
Also, this just in.... and hold your hat. The runner-ups to the wonderful, courageous, initiative-taking, peace-pursuing NObama:
Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for human rights in the PRC.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China's communist system. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square Massacre.)
Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly 80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan and Afghanistan over the past 15 years.
Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims.
Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N. special envoy to Darfur.
This is not a joke. I repeat..... Yes, it's true, The Vain Do-Nothing One won the award.
"eople need to look at the
October 10, 2009 - 17:55 ET by ckc1227"people need to look at the Big Picture and step outside the box. We as Americans should take pride in his award."
I, as an American, will never take pride in being played for a fool. Instead I feel great shame knowing so many in this country revel in it.
Exactly. What's to take
October 10, 2009 - 20:59 ET by GregEExactly. What's to take pride in? It's like giving a trophy to the kids in little league that didn't win anything. So what does a trophy mean, if everyone gets one no matter what. That's absolutely nothing to take pride in.
No pride in the president of the United States being the "useful idiot." And praising such a thing is it's own form of idiocy.
"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the
world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the
Nobel jury said. Full text of the statement.
That's one way of saying "he's not done anything yet, but has captured the world by talking about doing something."
Shades of Ward Churchill
October 10, 2009 - 17:40 ET by slickwillie2001Funny art story; the NYT ran a story about the Bamster acquiring some art for the White House which I guess we are paying for. (Remember that horrid orange thing?) As a result of the publicity, one of the paintings, by an American painter named Alma Thomas, has been recognized as a knockoff of a 1953 Matisse.
Fraudulent Art in the White House: http://snappedshot.com
Maybe appropriate for the Bamster.
Former Baywatch babe
October 10, 2009 - 18:29 ET by shawn228Wow looks like Nicole Eggert has been eating a few cheeseburgers, kudos to her for making fun of herself though.
"I have a Bush man-crush, you need to understand."-Mr. Shy
actually not that bad
October 10, 2009 - 22:41 ET by jon_torlinConsidering she's in her late 30s and had a back surgery or two and is in a bit of pain because of it, I'm impressed that she did this. As for her shape, that's pretty decent for 38.
Some of her fellow Baywatch actors haven't fared that well though. Every now and then you hear about how Hasselhoff drinks himself into a hospital and his poor daughter is the one calling for help on that all the time. Poor thing.
-Jon
Pam Anderson still has a
October 10, 2009 - 23:52 ET by shawn228Pam Anderson still has a smoking figure, same with Alyssa Milano and Drew Barrymore but your right not bad for for 38
"I have a Bush man-crush, you need to understand."-Mr. Shy
http://uk.news.yahoo... ".
October 10, 2009 - 20:50 ET by GregEhttp://uk.news.yahoo...
"...Barack Obama basked in new-found glory on Saturday, vowing to consider
his surprise Nobel Peace Prize as "a call for action" to address the
challenges of the new century..."
The "useful idiot" being used accordingly, though he doesn't even know it. He agrees with its purpose and vows to make his own purpose that which is the Nobel committee's purpose for awarding it to him.........and we, the American citizen, those with great respect of our sovereign Constitution and understanding of its greatness, will watch our Constitution lose it's sovereignty to this "useful idiot's" ego and disdain for our great nation.
And now that lop-eared
October 10, 2009 - 21:59 ET by ConservativeRexAnd now that lop-eared knucklehead is saying he's going to end don't ask don't tell. Isn't that just peachy? Get set for a bunch more 'hate' crimes. They'll not put up with this crap for long.
This shows he really does hate our military. Because believe me, it isn't his, never was. Oh he thinks it is, his supporters think it is, but it really isn't. And don't bother citing no GD polls for me. You want to know the truth? Get in amongst the men on the ground. That's where you'll find your answers, not some damn poll. lol.
Si Vis Palem, Para Bellum
SNL skit
October 10, 2009 - 22:35 ET by Free StinkerSNL skit - Obama won Nobel for Not being Bush.
Just once I want to scoop Noel on this stuff. ;-)
Re SNL
October 10, 2009 - 23:15 ET by slickwillie2001Fred Armisen phones in another performance. He's not even trying to do the Bamster's voice, I could do it better than he does.
Other nominations
October 11, 2009 - 10:07 ET by NonanonWonder if either Hillary or McCain would have been nominated for the prize, because they aren't Bush either, had one of them been elected.
I am not a fan of Mike Huckabee and Tim Pawlenty. Their comments
October 11, 2009 - 02:44 ET by Rush Fanregarding Barack Hussein Obama's Nobel Peace Prize confirms my belief that these so-called "conservatives" are as conservative as the New York Times David Brooks, columnist David Frum or MSNBC's Joe Scarborough.
In a Politico article titled Limbaugh: 'Greater embarrassment' than losing Olympics Politico's Jonathan Martin writes:
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"I'm here to tell you, if either of these two guys [McCain or Huckabee] get the nomination, it's going to destroy the Republican Party, it's going to change it forever, be the end of it. A lot of people aren't going to vote. You watch." ~ Rush Limabaugh (Jan 15, 2008)
not a fan either
October 11, 2009 - 08:52 ET by jon_torlinI got some seriously mixed feelings about Huckabee now, especially after I saw his show that he said those things.(I watch it from time to time, he gets some interesting guests now and then) He seems like a nice enough guy, but dang, it seems like his views are all over the place, which is why I'm not a fan of his, not even a little.
That comment said about allowing the left a chance to explain what Soetoro did made me a little mad and a little disappointed, mad because we had different reactions (not the conservative ones, but on the left) that caused different responses in the sense that Soetoro himself said it's a call to action, not to mention he didn't turn it down(should have) since he said he didn't do anything. Of course, the NPP team had their reasons, much of which were anti-american anyway, not to mention rendering the the NPP ignoble as Joseph Farah said in his commentary.
Hasn't the left been given too many chances as it is? Was it one chance too many that's allowed the US to get into the position it's in today, which basically amounts to grabbing your ankles and holding on for who knows what? (unemployment, taxes and more taxes, freedoms being seriously eroded and people like Holdren who are calling for major population control with insidious ideas that are actually being considered for example)
A friend of mine prior to the end of the election day back on that fateful day in November said "Give Obama a chance, maybe he won't be that bad." He was trying to be optimistic. I said "Hell no I don't want to give him that chance, I know EXACTLY what he is and what he will do."(and told him) A couple of days ago, I talked to that friend and said "Told you so." He couldn't think of a thing to say in response except to say "You were right." He's fixing to graduate university and he can't find any prospects beyond a band teacher at middle and high schools.(nothing wrong with that) he's majoring in Music and wanted to get into the commercial sector with labels but whatever prospects he had were lost due to loss in revenue and unemployment rising.
More conservatives need to fight fire with fire. Otherwise, we'll be in a cold dark place soon. This week will tell the tale when the health care "vote" takes place(yes, I know, nothing on paper).
-Jon