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And THAT with almost 100%
September 1, 2009 - 08:54 ET by mattmAnd THAT with almost 100% positive news coverage in the lamestream press. Just think how low it would be if they just did their job, and even moreso if they treated him the way they treated Bush.
If they treated him like
September 1, 2009 - 10:06 ET by taterIf they treated him like they treated Bush 45% would be the front page story followed by the increase in US deaths in Afghanistan.
The crickets chirping in the media now should be a surprise to nobody.
www.theholyrosary.org
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
So Sad
September 1, 2009 - 09:00 ET by BluegillCouldn't happen to a nicer socialist.
To Paraphrase Batman
September 1, 2009 - 09:01 ET by BondPlainBondObama: "I did think it would all end differently, somehow less ignominiously. To drown in my own poll numbers!"
One term President ?
September 1, 2009 - 09:18 ET by MillerTimeWarpMost likely. Hopefully. Race riots in December 2012 ?
This movement is deeper than a solar panel
September 1, 2009 - 09:31 ET by OklahomaIsShapedFunnyHas the effect of Glenn Beck's week of "exposing" BO's czars shown up in the polls?
Is Beck exaggerating?
"everymorning and everyday, I bossa nova with you"
I would hesitate to give
September 1, 2009 - 10:16 ET by arkansaszippersI would hesitate to give Glenn Beck that much credit - his audience already hates Obama. That's called "preaching to the choir," for you newbies out there...
Don't hesitate to invest in earplugs, zip.
September 1, 2009 - 10:38 ET by KarmaHis audience is growing, and in turn, the choir is expanding and growing in volume.
Music to my ears.
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
To be honest, I'm guilty of
September 1, 2009 - 10:49 ET by arkansaszippersTo be honest, I'm guilty of watching the show on occasion myself. It has that certain train-wreck appeal that's hard to turn away from. I was actually worried that they might cancel him for a minute there, but fortunately he seems to have landed on his feet.
We agree.
September 1, 2009 - 10:57 ET by KarmaThe way he reports this train-wreck of a government has it's appeal. Hence, his growing audience.
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
Zippy (may I call you
September 1, 2009 - 11:07 ET by celatorZippy (may I call you zippy?)
The way to watch any of the commentators is to get past the theatrics--they all engage in a bit of that. It's TV. It's visual.
Concentrate on the content. It's what Beck is exposing that is catching the attention of viewers.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Zippy is fine I
September 1, 2009 - 11:17 ET by arkansaszippersZippy is fine I suppose.
Seriously though, this is classic:
http://www.youtube.c...
I mean, c'mon, you can't get that just anywhere.
Well, obviously the young Turk wasn't paying attention
September 1, 2009 - 11:32 ET by nwahsI don't know if Beck was high, but I do know the young Turk is more dumb than young. The caller was telling Beck that in France all you have to do is walk into a hospital to get treatment. Previously she was stating people in the US were dying because they couldn't afford health care. Now think about that for a second and tell me what was wrong with the caller's argument.Yes there's a lot of drama there, but the real story is how brainwashed the caller was.
"O..L..I..G..A..R..H.. one letter is missing."- Glenn Beck
I don't know, everybody I
September 1, 2009 - 11:43 ET by arkansaszippersI don't know, everybody I know that's heard that clip seems to be more entertained by Beck's loony screaming jag than some dumb hillbilly lady's flawed logic. I mean, a lot of people don't know that much about politics - you meet them every day. Hell, I don't much, I'll admit that. But I don't think I've ever come across anybody having a defcon 5 meltdown like that, short of a few crackheads on the city buses in Detroit. I mean, I get that you like the guy, but you have to admit, that was pretty strange. If that had been Al Franken, this whole website would be talking about it for years.
Thats drama
September 1, 2009 - 11:48 ET by nwahsThats drama. And Al Franken has his episodes of drama as well. Remember him body slamming a heckler at a Howard Dean rally?
Gota YouTube of that?
"O..L..I..G..A..R..H.. one letter is missing."- Glenn Beck
No, do you? I would LOVE
September 1, 2009 - 11:58 ET by arkansaszippersNo, do you? I would LOVE to see that! In my opinion, nothing is more hilarious than people who are supposed to be collected lose their cool. It might be a little juvenile, but I don't care - I can't help myself. Like when you see those politicians in Japan start a big brawl and try to hit each other with their shoes? Oh my god, I can't get enough of that!
Yep,
September 1, 2009 - 11:20 ET by general companyAnd I dont see to many folks waiting in line to refute what he suggest either. They would rather make add hominim attacks, then debate what Beck claims.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
so are you here to debunk his content?
September 1, 2009 - 11:41 ET by candanceor just make useles wisecracks?
DKos needs to start sending over smarter people.
Seriously, what are you even
September 1, 2009 - 11:46 ET by arkansaszippersSeriously, what are you even talking about? I said that Beck was preaching to the choir, which he is. And then I made some wisecracks - is that not allowed or something? I never said I was going to debunk anything. I just think he's kind of goofy as a person, which is very entertaining to me. I don't really care what he's talking about. Hell, I would watch him if he had his own cooking show. So what's your deal - having a bad day or something?
and there it is
September 1, 2009 - 11:56 ET by candanceI don't really care what he's talking about.
Translation: I don't care if communists run the federal government. I don't care if Obama handpicks convicted criminals to head up 9/11 service. I'm just here to make fun of a conservative.
Thanks for telling us exactly how you feel.
Wow, you really need to get
September 1, 2009 - 12:02 ET by arkansaszippersWow, you really need to get some more sleep at night, or something. I don't care if he's a conservative or not, he's still loony toons. What does that have to do with anything? That was my point - I don't watch him for the content, I watch him because he's kind of a wacko. Why do you care why I watch him anyway? Is he like your idol or something?
you're happy with criminals running the government
September 1, 2009 - 12:03 ET by candanceGot it. Just wanted to make sure that was established for the next time you start calling some Republican a criminal.
Ok, good then. I am fine
September 1, 2009 - 12:09 ET by arkansaszippersOk, good then. I am fine with criminals running our government. I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, you know?
nah, our government aint broke at all
September 1, 2009 - 12:13 ET by candanceThanks for sharing a peek into your world.
Speaking of train wrecks,
September 1, 2009 - 11:57 ET by bretzysdudeSpeaking of train wrecks, I'm having popcorn to watch you completely derail.
I'm just happy to have
September 1, 2009 - 12:01 ET by arkansaszippersI'm just happy to have someone to talk to...
How long you're in for?
September 1, 2009 - 12:06 ET by nwahs:)
"O..L..I..G..A..R..H.. one letter is missing."- Glenn Beck
ha ha, very funny
September 1, 2009 - 12:09 ET by arkansaszippersha ha, very funny
Wonderful! Another Troll
September 1, 2009 - 22:02 ET by Free StinkerWonderful!
Another Troll Sleeper account has been activated.
I'm sorry, I don't believe I
September 2, 2009 - 11:09 ET by arkansaszippersI'm sorry, I don't believe I was even talking to you. Is my mere presence here bothering you or something?
I would hesitate to give Glenn Beck that much credit
September 1, 2009 - 13:57 ET by JDWWhat kind of appeal does he have to the center?
JDW
DAILY WAVE
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→ JDW
September 1, 2009 - 14:01 ET by Cool ArrowCertainly you don't think the center has its entire investment for the future depending on Social Security, do you?
The "center" has a lot at stake in this socialist shift.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
What center?
September 1, 2009 - 19:37 ET by arkansaszippersWhat center?
Moderate Democrats are
September 1, 2009 - 09:31 ET by celatorModerate Democrats are finally figuring out that Obama is destroying their political party. Independents are running away from Obama as fast as their little feet can move. The economy is in chaos. Many 401K's lost 50 percent of value. Radicals, anarchists, union thugs, 1960's era scum, failed Clintonites staff the White House from top to bottom. Mysterious czars slither around the White House for who knows what purpose?
What's not to like, eh?
Afghanistan. This is the one that will break the back of the White House goons. They have no clue what to do there. Or why we are there. Or what the end game is. Americans will not put up with the catastrophe the hapless Obama will create for us there. Watch and see.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
As Terrell Owens once
September 1, 2009 - 09:31 ET by bobthemanAs Terrell Owens once said... "Getcha Popcorn Ready"... the slow steady decline in his poll numbers is gonna be a thing to behold.
Politics of Destruction
There is obviously something wrong
September 1, 2009 - 09:35 ET by YahooWatcherwith how this poll was conducted.
Sincerely,
George Stephanopoulos
Don't Tax Me, Bro.
Rasmussen called me this past weekend.
September 1, 2009 - 09:54 ET by JTPI am not sure if the results are part of the above poll but the questions could not have been more clear or to the point. There was no chance for wriggle room on your answers. No touchy, feely or leading questions that could have been read any other way than yes or no. I will trust Rasmussen poll results when I see them.
"Live for yourself...there's no one else more worth living for.
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"- Rush--Anthem
What else is there?
September 1, 2009 - 09:36 ET by KC MulvilleIf no one wants to follow him on healthcare, I suspect he's in trouble on the education policy, which will basically be free college for all. I have mixed motives there - I have four kids not far from college age, which means it would come in handy for me. But the tradeoff isn't pretty. I'm sure the plan to lower costs will funnel everything to state-run schools, and that's probably not worth the tradeoff. Foreign policy is no better. George Will has a provocative article today about Afghanistan. Obama's in deep trouble there.
This guy's going nowhere fast.
→ KC
September 1, 2009 - 09:52 ET by Cool ArrowAfter Gibbs' comments yesterday, blaming the current rise in deaths on the previous president, I can't help but believe we're getting ready to cut and run.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
I didn't see that, but it
September 1, 2009 - 10:30 ET by motherbeltI didn't see that, but it doesn't surprise me.
Didnt' Obama say, during the campaign, that Afghanistan was where we should be putting our efforts?
He ran on being able to fix "the failed policies of the past 8 years"
If he didn't think he could, he shouldn't have said it. How long does it take to implement a new policy in a war zone?
He's had seven months. It's his war now. Time to own up, Barack!
It's amateur hour at the
September 1, 2009 - 10:34 ET by Gat New YorkIt's amateur hour at the White House.
That it is....and, to quote
September 1, 2009 - 10:41 ET by motherbeltThat it is....and, to quote The Anchoress, who nails it (she was responding to NY governor Patterson's racism charge:
New Yorkers think you’re a lousy governor because you’re a lousy governor. And people are displeased with President Obama’s policies and programs because he’s not doing the things he said he would do, and he is doing the things he said he wouldn’t do, and he seems completely frazzled, lost, whiney, annoyed and out-of-his depths.
(emphasis mine) Major emphasis on the "whiney"
MB.. I want to thank you for
September 1, 2009 - 11:14 ET by celatorMB.. I want to thank you for your references to The Anchoress. I had not read her before you mentioned her website, and I have been an avid reader ever since. When I read her I yell out..."YES, THAT"S IT!". She has the gift of getting right to the point, and I like that.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
No argument there
September 1, 2009 - 11:15 ET by KC MulvilleWhen it comes to fighting a war, the only political quality that matters is persistence, and the lack of persistence is the signature quality of this administration. They don't have the stomach for war.
The whole point of war is to either remove your enemy's leadership, or weaken their resolve. And yet, it's our leadership goes out of its way to advertise their own lack of resolve. They compliment themselves on their own "thoughtfulness." They're still thinking it over. Well, thoughfulness is great if you're a professor, but it sucks as a wartime leader. Once you go to war, the time for thinking is over.
Nobody can beat the American military. But it seems to be very easy to defeat liberal politicians, especially when the media is so quick to start the panic. Say what you want about the tactics of Bush's Iraq war, but they did get the most important quality right: Bush refused to consider withdrawal. That alone saves lives, because it presents the enemy with only one avenue for victory - to win, they have to beat the American military. Obama is encouraging them to wait us out.
KC.. yes on all
September 1, 2009 - 11:23 ET by celatorKC.. yes on all points.
Remember Obama's revealing statement made recently: "'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan"
Sheesh. I'll bet there were Jihadists dancing and singing joyfully in the mountains of Afghanistan when he said that!
http://www.foxnews.c...
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Polls
September 1, 2009 - 14:11 ET by JDWBush was a leader, he made his decisions without regard to the polls.
Libs cannot stand on their own, in fact Clinton floated polls before each decision as well as the following days comments. Obama is no different. The falling numbers are affecting his decisions, not his intuitions as a leader. Imagine a company president emailing the business employees with questions each day in order to decide what to do, then realize your country is being run in similar fashion.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
Always available when the time is right
Afghanistan
September 1, 2009 - 09:42 ET by BeanManAs far as the war goes, he simply needs to listen to his generals/admirals etc. The nice thing about the first Gulf war was that GHW Bush listened to his generals and such about how to prosecute the war. He had made the political decision and now they needed to achieve it. The same with GW Bush, he made the political decisions and then let it go. I was only later that political decisions got in the way.
As far as the "Afghanistan war is concerned the Army and Marines are performing brilliantly when they can however they are limited by political decisions and rules and such. If the political decision was simply "Destroy the Taliban" then it could be done.
Now Obama has the left wing telling him to get out, and moderates telling him to go slowly and he's listening to them, or at least thinking about it. He should just get out of the way.
Since government is coercion, politics is largely the exercise of deception regarding the intended use of coercion - George Orwell
Here is some good news
September 1, 2009 - 09:43 ET by upcountrywaterClimate bill in disarray
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member
of the Environment & Public Works Committee, today said that he was
not surprised to learn that Senate Democrats were forced once again to
delay introduction of their global warming cap-and-trade bill.
Throughout hearing after hearing in the EPW Committee this summer, it
became apparent that Democrats were a long way off from reaching the
votes necessary in the Senate to pass the largest tax increase in
American history.
Can we start drilling now?
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
Re Poll Crash
September 1, 2009 - 09:43 ET by slickwillie2001Let's hope this continues, it will terminate Phase 2 of the Bamster's plans, which calls for his Basji/brownshirts to be assembled in 2010 in time for the election.
Has a tipping point been reached? How long before the democratic congress turns on the Bamster to save their own skin? For the 2010 elections, will the DNC lock the Bamster in the White House?
Re the tide turning, look at this (racist?) gift shop in Bal/Wash airport: http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com
Slick, all things being relative,
September 1, 2009 - 10:24 ET by boomerconThe congressional Dims will look at their poll numbers, and figure O's numbers are astronomically high relative to theirs, and they'll send him out to campaign for them.
Talk about the blind leading the blind (or maybe like lemmings leaping overboard?)
bears watching
September 1, 2009 - 09:48 ET by jon_torlinI know some of you might say there's hope in this, but look at what we've seen so far. We know the bamboy gets nasty a la Axel when he's backed into a corner, which gets more obvious when the gibby starts acting more like baghdad bob, to quote Rush.(who by the way is off this weekend, will the poll numbers continue to slide for DuhOne?)
What happens when he gets desperate? Will that be when something starts to happen, the big crisis that motormouth Joe predicted?
I know it might sound a bit paranoid, but for someone with his background, he should not be ignored, he must be defeated and soundly too. It shouldn't wait for 2012 either, there's been too much damage done in the last 7 months already which will take years to recover from.
The next couple of months will tell the tale.
-Jon
How will he react?
September 1, 2009 - 10:21 ET by slickwillie2001Yes, how he will react when he reaches the thirties or so is a troubling thought. We have often discussed here the behavior expected of a pathological narcissist like the Bamster upon rejection. Generally you expect the narcissist to blame the citizens for his rejection, never himself. Will he become even more of a tyrant, or will he change? How will his rock-bottom base of 12% or so react to his rejection?
2012 is too horrible to think about. I can imagine typical LA-style our-team-lost riots in dozens of cities when the Bamster is thrown out of office. I also foresee a frightening number of Presidential pardons, in the many thousands, in the two months between election and inauguration of the next President.
impeccable or impeachable?
September 1, 2009 - 10:45 ET by jon_torlinIt goes without saying that there's been a lot of impeachable offenses by That One(don't ask for a list, it'd take a while to compile), but it also goes without saying that it's Congress' duty to bring impeachment charges which they won't do due to the Dem's control over congress.
There aren't enough people with the backbone and testicular fortitude to bring the charges forth(Ron Paul said he'd be laughed out of Congress if he tried, don't know about Eric Cantor), and assuming we survive the next few months into Election 2010 and if the amazing thing happens to where Republicans gain control, will they be real conservatives with enough principles to bring forth the charges?
The charges would be far more serious than the case of Clinton as he perjured himself in a court of law, DuhOne has violated the US Constitution several times, even advocating changing it, which in my mind is worse than a little ol' lie (it was right to impeach him, don't get me wrong), but would it happen?
Hell, I don't know with people anymore!
-Jon
Thank you, Mr. Beck!
September 1, 2009 - 09:48 ET by pwozThank you, Mr. Beck!
He's on fire of late
September 1, 2009 - 10:52 ET by SeftonClassic Beck yesterday afternoon.
Loved the visual of "all those other countries can kiss our ass" he made regarding weak administration apologies to them.
Long Nightmare
September 1, 2009 - 09:49 ET by LynnAs we watch the botched handling of everything by this administration, it is no wonder that our long nightmare may be shorter than we thought. It is time to stop the madness and tell the truth to the loons - there is no tooth fairy.
Don't let the door..............
BO's sinking faster than a
September 1, 2009 - 09:50 ET by HockeyKidBO's sinking faster than a Kennedy Oldsmobile...
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Don't look at me when it
September 1, 2009 - 09:57 ET by taterDon't look at me when it comes to change, I voted for the wacky Alaskan and I was part of the 35% that didn't approve of Obama from day one. Glad to see more people are getting on the bandwagon.
www.theholyrosary.org
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
45%
September 1, 2009 - 09:57 ET by ForbusScott Rasmussen.....today's Worst Person In The Worrrrrrrrrrrld.
The Narcissist in Chief &
September 1, 2009 - 10:16 ET by mjfitchThe Narcissist in Chief & his marxist administration will manufacture an emergency so they can take control.Hopefully the military or someone appointed into office will uphold the Constitution of the United States and get these marxist/communist/socialist/fascist out of office and into prison for treason.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Wow -
September 1, 2009 - 10:21 ET by arkansaszippersWow - marxist/communist/socialist/fascist - that's pretty good. I'm suprised you couldn't squeeze baby-eater in there, or something. Bonus points for "Narcissist in Chief," but I still feel like you were holding a little something back. Well, there's always next time, right?
→ Arkyzip
September 1, 2009 - 10:28 ET by Cool ArrowThere's no evidence he eats babies.
Ample evidence, though, that Obama is content to let children die alone in soiled linen closets.
I know this makes him something short of monstrous in your book. But I have a sneaking suspicion you didn't write it.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
I know, it's just funny. I
September 1, 2009 - 10:37 ET by arkansaszippersI know, it's just funny. I mean, that's how I sounded when I was about 17 and spending half my time listening to Rage Against the Machine and smoking weed. You know, "the fascist pigs are bringing me down, man. The president is owned by Monsanto and British Petroleum!" I mean, I get it, a lot of people don't like the president, but to act like he's part of some sinister secret plan to turn the country into Mother Russia... it just sounds really high school. So far I haven't noticed much difference in the quality of life I have with this president any more than any other president. He makes some good decisions, more bad ones, and business goes on as usual.
arkzip: Have you heard of
September 1, 2009 - 10:40 ET by QueenMumarkzip: Have you heard of George Soros? Do you know anything about his financial dealings and his political philosophy and associations? Just wondering.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Yes, I get it. There are
September 1, 2009 - 10:47 ET by arkansaszippersYes, I get it. There are tons of theories on BOTH SIDES - remember the PNAC? But to sit there and act like one side is full of wholesome individuals who have you best interests at heart, and the other side is full of criminals who are just inherently bad... well that's just extremely obtuse. I mean, both sides are basically crooks - that's how they got there. This whole good vs. bad idea doesn't exist in the real world - maybe in Disney World, but not the real one.
Wow. You HAVE been watching
September 1, 2009 - 11:02 ET by KarmaWow. You HAVE been watching Beck on occasion. Keep learnin' zip.
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
I told you, it's so
September 1, 2009 - 11:19 ET by arkansaszippersI told you, it's extremely addictive. I can't help myself.
Maybe you'll finally learn
September 1, 2009 - 11:58 ET by bretzysdudeMaybe you'll finally learn something.
→ Arkyzip
September 1, 2009 - 10:42 ET by Cool ArrowI'm aware of the bad decisions. Maybe you could fill us in on a few of the good ones.
And don't include the swingset, or the public service announcement.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Driving on acid?
September 1, 2009 - 10:52 ET by arkansaszippersDriving on acid?
→ That's funny.
September 1, 2009 - 12:03 ET by Cool ArrowOK, so you proved my point.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Or I just proved that I have
September 1, 2009 - 12:07 ET by arkansaszippersOr I just proved that I have no idea what I'm talking about. But you already knew that...
→ Arky
September 1, 2009 - 12:33 ET by Cool ArrowI was being kind, acknowledging you found an acorn despite your handicap.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Well, kindness is always
September 1, 2009 - 12:47 ET by arkansaszippersWell, kindness is always appreciated.
"Wow -
September 1, 2009 - 10:36 ET by ckc1227"Wow - marxist/communist/socialist/fascist - that's pretty good. I'm
suprised you couldn't squeeze baby-eater in there, or something."
Why throw baby-eater in there? We try to leave the lying to libs.
Geoffery P. Hunt of
September 1, 2009 - 10:22 ET by ForeverOnTheRightGeoffery P. Hunt of American Thinker in his in his article “Another Failed Presidency” is comparing Obama to Woodrow Wilson, I didn’t know this but there was a President worse than Carter, who knew?
I didn't know that
September 1, 2009 - 10:28 ET by MillerTimeWarpCarter was Pres when I was growing up, in my highschool years. Remember the long lines at the gas stations, and him bringing his version of "peace" to the middle east. Mr Do Nothing. Years later, they would talk about his great work with Habitat for Humanity. Too little, too late. Clinton is 2nd on my list of the worst Pres.
natural talent
September 1, 2009 - 10:37 ET by jon_torlinI call it a natural talent on Obeyme's part because he's done FAR more to hurt this country in such a short amount of time, some say 7 months, but I think the record would be shortly after he got into office when he started signing things into law and into effect(exec orders, ya know?) and the buildup of czars. 7 months is just the time where we are feeling and will continue to feel the effects of his actions along with his cohorts in congress, and those not in congress.
So Bammy gets top pick as worst, Carter is second, and Clinton is third even though he managed to stay in for 2 terms(I blame that one on Dole and Perot). I choose them due to their actions and policies, especially those that made it easy for enemies to cause great harm (or will cause in the Bamster's case) to our people and our country.
-Jon
Obama will be THE most failed President
September 1, 2009 - 10:39 ET by Gat New YorkObama's problem is that he is the first American President to come to power with absolutely no management experience of any kind: he never ran a government (even a village), he never ran a company, he never ran an organization, in fact he never even ran a lemonade stand.
That lack of management experience showed from the outset by his recklessly delegating everything out and trying to hide from criticism. Smoke and mirrors can only get you the job - it can't keep you there.
What will be interesting is watching Democrats breaking away from Pelosi and then Obama to save their own jobs come 2010. Clinton was smart to break toward the middle after the Hillarycare fiasco and that saved his Presidency. Obama does not have enough experience (or brains) to do that. He thinks this is one big campaign.
Gat: You seem pretty savvy.
September 1, 2009 - 10:42 ET by QueenMumGat: You seem pretty savvy. Who do you see as the Dem's candidate in 2012? Will Hillary be back?
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Not so much savvy as
September 1, 2009 - 13:50 ET by Gat New YorkNot so much savvy as remembering history.
If Democrats are hammered in 2010 election and Obama's popularity continues to be low I would bet that Hillary resigns her position as SoS in 2011 and starts a run against Obama.
As opposed to Carter/Kennedy in 1980, Obama will not have nearly as much political capital as Carter did and Hillary never killed an employee as Kennedy did (at least that we know of). So there could be a better than even chance that Obama will not get the nomination for a second term.
I also think if the GOP takes over leadership of the House in 2010, there will be hearings into several blatant impeachable actions committed by Obama. His arrogance and inexperience was not a good combination and will be his ruin.
Thanks, Gat. It all makes
September 1, 2009 - 14:30 ET by QueenMumThanks, Gat. It all makes sense to me.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Obama won by about 3-4%. Not
September 1, 2009 - 10:29 ET by billbObama won by about 3-4%. Not a landslide, but none the less a win. When watching C-Span's Morning Journal, how does anyone explain the cross section of calls to that show ANY morning?
Bill, how would the
September 1, 2009 - 22:22 ET by MikeBBill, how would the election gone if three of the Democrats voting blocs (felons, illegal aliens, and the dead) had not been allowed to vote? If ACORN had not engaged in massive voter registration fraud? If the Democrats had not engaved in massive voter fraud?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
September 1, 2009 - 10:36 ET by jessieHThe polls are never right. I think it's lower. More like 25%.
The Double Dip Media
September 1, 2009 - 10:48 ET by V the KPeople have awakened to the fact that the MSM sold them a bill of goods on Obama. They sold him as post-racial, post-partisan, smart, and moderate. He has turned out the be obsessed with race, unrelenting partisan, an intellectual mediocrity, and radical.
Now, the media, dutifully cheering for the god they created, are harping every bit of economic good news as a harbinger of recovery. But a lot of the "good news" they point to is questionable. There are fewer jobless claims week-to-week, but people are still getting laid off by the hundreds of thousands. There was an uptick in housing sales, but vultures snapping up foreclosed properties were a major driver behind that. Cash for Clunkers caused an August boom in auto sales, but if it just meant that people who were going to buy in May, June, July, September or October bought in August instead, the auto market is due for a harsh crash.
What will happen to what's left of the public's faith in the MSM if the recovery turns out to be as illusory as Obama's fiscal conservatism. Fool me once, Fool me twice?
Perhaps George Soros bought himself the wrong Marxist...
September 1, 2009 - 10:56 ET by R D Helm...to tear down America.
Then again, maybe not.
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
Re Wrong Marxist
September 1, 2009 - 11:10 ET by slickwillie2001Interesting thought; what is worse for our country, an incompetent Marxist, or a competent Marxist? Obviously it's a devil/devil question, but I tend to think that the policies and acts of an incompetent Marxist might be easier to reverse than that of a competent Marxist.
On the other hand, the incompetent might mess up foreign policy to a greater extent. We are still dealing with the results of disastrous Carter foreign policies in the Middle East.
not looking at it right
September 1, 2009 - 11:41 ET by jon_torlinI think people are looking at this the wrong way, and this might be worth thinking about. People have compared him to Chicago style thuggery and so forth, right? Don't get me wrong, I don't question him being a Marxist, he's shown his true colors in that regard.
Let's think about it from a crime boss' point of view, especially since Chicago is historically known for this.(stereotyping or not, it's still there)
A crime boss is going to surround himself with lackeys, lots and lots of lackeys. But he won't be surrounding himself with people "smarter" than him, because to a crime boss, someone smarter than him is a danger to him and his organization, might try to overthrow him or make him look bad(enter exhibit A-Biden). He also has someone working for him who will make things happen NO MATTER WHAT.(enter exhibit B-Rahmbo)
So while the Marxist might appear to be incompetent, is he really?
So are we dealing with an incompetent Marxist, or are we dealing with a competent Marxist crime boss? And I'm not talking about just That One being the boss, still iffy about who's pulling the strings. But we do see a lot of evidence of Chicago style stuff happening here and there, right?
-Jon
too much too fast
September 1, 2009 - 11:18 ET by katainkentno amount of charisma can sell that much swamp.
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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)
that's a sharp little drop at the end
September 1, 2009 - 11:17 ET by katainkenttrying to think what happened in the last 3 days that could have knocked the wind out so hard.
I was looking at the general "Obama" related news and this Bonnie Erbe article was near the top. Obama’s Approval Rating Tumbles as He Learns on the Job
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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)
I still think it's fudged
September 1, 2009 - 11:28 ET by general companyI never beleived his "approval rating was 68%, and I currently think it is lower the 45%. I like your artical, this one is fun also
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Please
September 1, 2009 - 11:18 ET by cvgbuckeyePlease don't start popping the champagne bottles open folks. This thing is far from over. As a matter of fact it has just begun.
The most dangerous part of all Marxist revolutions (AND THIS IS A MARXIST REVOLUTION) is that the main card that they always play is some supposed disadvantaged social sector that has been "disenfranchised" and "brutalized" and "victimized" since the beginning of time. This was a crucial element of Karl Marx's plan and Chairman Obama and all of his Comrades are playing that hand in Spades. I'll leave it to you to fill in the blanks with the appropriate social groups. The whole is made up of many but some groups have been conditioned for this mission for many years with a ready-made leadership structure already in place.
Usually, the news media must be taken over by the revolutionaries but in this case, they had unofficially surrendured to the left, many years ago. They just made it official when Chairman Obama came into power.
Now the Marxists have a terrible enemy in place, amongst some others of credence; one that they have overlooked and they will certainly underestimate.
This much I am certain of. I was and I AM a Marine. I took an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America and MY COUNTRY against ALL ENEMIES both foreign AND DOMESTIC. I said "I WILL". There are countless others like me.
Many of you believe that things will not come to that. I hope that you are right but I suspect (not fear) that you are wrong. I believe that no matter how this political struggle comes out, there will be unfettered retribution from the losing side. After this last election, the die was cast and we are unfortunately beyond the point of return.
I know what side I am on. I am on the side of my America. I WILL live up to my oath.
THE FEW, THE PROUD, THE MARINES!
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!
Very good CVG
September 1, 2009 - 11:29 ET by general companyLong way to go,
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
What I am now
September 1, 2009 - 12:17 ET by StarAZPeople sneer and say to me, "You must be a Republican." I say, "No, I am in The Resistance." My kid said, "Cool, like in The Terminator." Well--a little like in World War II, also.
buckeye, Not sure I saw
September 1, 2009 - 13:18 ET by Svenbuckeye,
Not sure I saw anyone here celebrating?
One word I never want to hear again: Bipartisan!
-Sven
...
September 1, 2009 - 11:23 ET by EugeniaSo what does Obama do to get his popularity up? Go after our young ones: http://www.docstoc.c...
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."
-- GK Chesterton
slightly easier page to read
September 1, 2009 - 11:43 ET by katainkentWith explanations and word doc printouts here. My children's school district is currently on strike. They'll likely miss out on this.
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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)
Will Turning Antiwar?
September 1, 2009 - 11:27 ET by slickwillie2001Much discussion here and there today over George Will's article recommending withdrawal from Afghanistan. I've been worried about Will for years, his Noonanification has been slow but relentless. Maybe it's the brainwashing at ABC.
Why Are We Still In Afghanistan? http://www.northjersey.com
→ Slick
September 1, 2009 - 12:13 ET by Cool ArrowI see it too, but what we're seeing is a President whose plan consists of nothing more than switching to a new theater with the same plan.
He's said nothing about Osama bin Ladin since the election, and nothing about our mission there.
Obama's floundering, and I think he'll soon see cut & run as an opportunity to prove something to his left-wing buddies.
If Obama's plan is to paint targets on American soldiers until critical mass is reached, I'd just as soon we got out too.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
nervous
September 1, 2009 - 12:17 ET by katainkentReuters refers to a change in presence in Afghanistan to be decided upon within the next few weeks. Wasn't it a couple days ago this adminstration was bragging about how they'd taken out more terrorists than the Bush Admin? I guess the polls are turning the screws.
Just when I thought there was a tiny fragment of this adminstration I had some hope for. If they're going to cut and run I hope they have their a**es covered.
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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller" Barack Obama (Dr. In Chief)
Given that O screws everything up--
September 1, 2009 - 13:42 ET by carolina09I'm inclined to at least listen to Will. Better to cut and run than see our troops managed badly in that dangerous place. Can O do anything? Well, it's not likely he can manage a war.
Palin Demand
September 1, 2009 - 12:26 ET by slickwillie2001A fix for the PDS addicts:
Sarah Palin is in High Demand: http://wizbangblog.com
"Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin this week will begin accepting and rejecting the more than 1,070 invitations she has received for paid speeches and political appearances since she resigned from office, aides said. Twenty speakers bureaus made offers to represent her. She has signed with Washington Speakers Bureau, which represents everyone from George and Laura Bush to Bob Woodward and Katie Couric to Alan Greenspan, Colin Powell and Rudy Giuliani."
Let's also hope that the new stream of income will allow her to pay off all her legal bills from defending against bogus ethics charges in Alaska.
How long before she's more popular than the Bamster?
→ Hey guys
September 1, 2009 - 13:28 ET by Cool ArrowDon't think Global Warming's a money maker?
Look at this! Quick, before it reaches 7,000% and crashes.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Wow Cool, I wish..............
September 1, 2009 - 13:33 ET by BEGRUNTI could have got into that one in the begining. A real money maker is exactly right
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
→ Here's another
September 1, 2009 - 13:36 ET by Cool ArrowBiofuels? You make the call.
I think maybe algae based has a real chance.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Hmmmmm I'm seeing....
September 1, 2009 - 13:38 ET by BEGRUNTa pattern......coincidence perhaps? Nawwww....
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
→ I don't know Begrunt
September 1, 2009 - 13:56 ET by Cool ArrowBut the first one is now at 6550% and the second is at 1400%.
I didn't have the guts today. I seldom do.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
MSM finally highlight disgusting aspect of Invitro Fertalization
September 1, 2009 - 13:54 ET by alwaysconhttp://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/01/extra.ivf.embryos/index.html
Besides his approval rating
September 1, 2009 - 14:24 ET by MikeBBesides his approval rating being down to 45%, there is also this: the approval index is now -11%, i.e., there are 11% more respondents that strongly disapprove than there are that strongly approve.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Obama and the democrats are
September 1, 2009 - 14:26 ET by Chris NormanObama and the democrats are finding that, while sarcasm, snideness, and insults may work on the campaign trail, they don't help once in office. I know Obama was going to have trouble when he hired that smart ass buffoon, Robert Gibbs as press secretary. This guy has set the tone for the whole belly flop of an administration. He's an incomprehensible jack ass.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
North Carolina raising taxes everywhere
September 1, 2009 - 14:42 ET by candanceThey recently raised income taxes, and now they're raising sales tax too. But don't worry. These tax hikes are temporary. Unlike the last "temporary" sales tax that's still somehow in effect anyway.
Also of interest is the claim that this will earn the state an extra $800 million over the next two years. Kind of like the state lottery that was projected to save public schools until the state witheld the money to pay other bills and eventually scrounged up 37 million for public schools. Divide that up among all 100 counties, and it's a breathtaking $370,000 for each.
For those who are wondering, yes this is the state that gave us John Edwards, Mike Nifong, and the corrupt Mike Easley. Guess which party is in the governor's mansion right now....
Candance
September 1, 2009 - 16:59 ET by ricklailI heard a woman on a local talk show this morning call in about her Bojangles tea, which she expected to pay a penny more for today said it was actually 2 cents. Maybe just maybe somebody will finally wake up in this state. Dems have controlled this state for the past 16 years with at least 2 more to come. I expect Perdue to be re-elected in 2012 because of the idiots in this state.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Is GMAIL down, or am I the only dolt that can't get in?
September 1, 2009 - 15:46 ET by R D HelmJust wondering.
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
~It's not you
September 1, 2009 - 15:50 ET by choselife3x"Oops… the system encountered a problem (#6502) - Retrying now…"
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Thanks, R
September 1, 2009 - 15:52 ET by R D HelmStrange that I can log into my blog, which is run by Google, also.
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
Dave... I've had same
September 1, 2009 - 15:55 ET by bigtimerDave...
I've had same problem for about 90 minutes or so.
Makes one wonder and worry some with this administration and their tactics...well, heck, a person just can't help going there.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
bt,
September 1, 2009 - 15:59 ET by R D HelmLOL-At least I know it isn't Axelrod screwing with my email.
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
→ Dave
September 1, 2009 - 16:03 ET by Cool ArrowHow do you know that you know it's not Axelrod?
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Cool,
September 1, 2009 - 16:13 ET by R D HelmLOL-Yeah, I was just thinking he might be screwing with us all at the same time.
-Dave
Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz
Hmmm... the diabolical evil genius Dr. Kengie, perhaps?
September 1, 2009 - 16:13 ET by SickofLibsHe's the only I know who possesses the intellect and technical skills to pull off a feat of this magnitude, but he said he was going to a town hall.
→ Holy Baloney Batman
September 1, 2009 - 16:20 ET by Cool ArrowAnd I just realized kengie is really The Penguin today.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Wake UP America!
September 1, 2009 - 17:32 ET by bigtimerAnybody catch this...or this...along with this to top it off from yesterday?
Wake Up the rest of you in America that are walking around with your eyes still shut!
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Approval of disapproval...
September 1, 2009 - 17:38 ET by Georgia GirlGee, you'd think Americans were actually starting to pay attention...thank God.
Howdy GG... One thing
September 1, 2009 - 17:44 ET by bigtimerHowdy GG...
One thing about it...more and more are waking up...thank goodness for sites like this, radio and Fox etc. the polls are showing so as well.
Pots simmering..boiling point not yet reached, I feel it will...and soon...at least by '10...with what all OCrew has prepared until then to do to us....we may even win the Senate...long way to go...but things are looking up. ;-)
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Does that mean there will
September 1, 2009 - 17:49 ET by RR GOPDoes that mean there will be less Lib trolls showing up here?
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Lib trolls?
September 1, 2009 - 18:21 ET by RukusDang it RR, stop being redundant! : )
Gary
A liberal's generosity is limited only by your income.
Lockerbie bomber~
September 1, 2009 - 20:19 ET by Georgia GirlMy computer is doing weird things, so forgive me for not finding an open thread for this question. I'll have to make it fit...speaking of Obama's aproval rating, did anybody catch news today on what the Administration had to say about the Lockerbie bomber being released? I heard they may make a statement today, but I didn't catch it today...was there anything?
it's complicated, GG
September 1, 2009 - 21:41 ET by candanceHe released a statement that he was not happy with the decision. However he apparently did know about it because he admitted to asking Libya to keep him in house arrest.
candance... The whole
September 1, 2009 - 22:09 ET by Jercandance...
The whole world knew about the release during the time period to which you refer. A component of the U.S. response was to initiate a dialogue with Libya in an effort to persuade them to place the freed terrorist under house arrest.
Jer
Oh,
September 1, 2009 - 22:28 ET by general companyMy bad, I thought there was a media double standard here? Geez, is it realy that hard to understand?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Apparently so, g c, I have
September 1, 2009 - 22:33 ET by JerApparently so, g c, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Jer
Well,
September 1, 2009 - 22:41 ET by general companyI butchered it, good news,, you replied so now Shawn and CL3 have more ammo. Yea,,,, I know,, you dont get that either,,,,,,,,,geez!!
Be good : ]
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
?????????????/
September 1, 2009 - 22:54 ET by shawn228"..... you replied so now Shawn and CL3 have more ammo."
I can't remember the last time you or I had a major disagreement about anything. I tend to not waste good ammo :-)
"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong
→ Understood Jer
September 1, 2009 - 22:50 ET by Cool ArrowAccording to Obama, It's easier to say blame it all on Scotland than admit he was too weak to pressure them.
We would have understood. What the heck. We already understand.
He's feckless and impotent when it comes to foreign diplomacy. And of course, this doesn't look good at all for his Secretary of State.
Brilliant on the home front, but totally sissified abroad.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Cool...
September 2, 2009 - 01:11 ET by JerHmmm...
I started to say I would go fetch the recent comments [I think it was] by one of our commanders in Afghanistan, who claimed that Obama's policies have been much better at rooting out the bad guys than the previous administration's, but he would just be dismissed as an Obama lackey--plus it's late and I'm tired.
Jer
Candance...
September 1, 2009 - 22:17 ET by Georgia GirlThanks. Well, not too surprising. I wonder if more will come from this...
throw da bums out!!!
September 1, 2009 - 21:37 ET by candancewitness politicians (aka public servants) in the Connecticut state House playing solitaire during a budget meeting. You're welcome for the leadership.
many moons ago
September 1, 2009 - 21:42 ET by katainkent(and I won't say how many) I used to page for the state senate and worked in the cafeteria. That's not all they do when they're supposed to be workin. I'll just say I'm not shocked and leave it at that.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson