MRC's Bozell: 'No Justification' for Soldier Deaths Getting 1/20th Coverage of Jackson

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Reacting to Media Research Center (MRC) analysis showing the deaths of seven U.S. soldiers killed in Afghanistan recently has received just 1/20th of the network coverage devoted to Michael Jackson, NewsBusters Publisher and MRC President Bozell Bozell released the following statement earlier today:

This is a prime example of why network television news audiences are disappearing before our eyes. There is no justification for determining that the death of a celebrity over a week ago merits 20 times more news coverage than the tragic deaths of American soldiers in Afghanistan.

For anyone to say - with a straight face - that such a disparity was an ‘editorial judgment' only further insults the collective intelligence of the audience these newscasts claim to serve. In fact, it's just more evidence that network ‘news,' for all practical purposes, no longer exists.

We should not be surprised that network newscasts continue to dumb themselves down, but episodes such as this are a disgrace.

The findings from the MRC examination of the coverage:

  • Seven soldiers' deaths earned a total of less than one minute combined on the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts on Monday night -- 1/20th the time devoted to Jackson a week-and-a-half after he passed away.
  • CBS dedicated a mere 13 seconds to the deaths compared to just over 13 minutes of Jackson coverage one evening broadcast. The 13 minutes dedicated to Jackson's death was more than half of the entire newscast's 22 minutes - a disparity of 60-to-1.
  • ABC and NBC allocated about eight times more airtime to Jackson than to the soldiers' deaths in Afghanistan (2:50 vs. 20 seconds on ABC; 3:00 vs. 23 seconds on NBC).

For the full MRC press release, click here.


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I know that Fox News is

I know that Fox News is usually considered the "good guys" but where are their numbers here?  I'm completely repulsed by the constant and continuing coverage of MJ, and Fox is guilty like the rest.  No one should get off easy.

ILT... Well...I'll be

ILT...

Well...I'll be darned...for once we agree about something.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I was appalled last night

I was appalled last night when Bill O'Reilly seemed to defend the grotesque overcoverage of death of Michael Jackson, even to the point of dismissing Gretchen Carlson when she said that "Cap and Trade" was passed in the House with little coverage while the media focussed almost entirely on Jackson. He actually (condescendingly) lectured her that there was plenty of time later for the media to cover "cap and trade" and nationalized healthcare after "this week". At first I thought he was being sarcastic or having fun with her, but from the incredulous expression on her face, I think she took him seriously. She even squeezed in her disapproval of what he said at the end of the segment. I think O'Reilly can't get away from his tabloid "Inside Edition" (?) days.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Maybe after they're done

Maybe after they're done covering the funeral, BOR can do a segment exposing that this crap and trade bill has a provision in it for a THREE-YEAR unemployment package, plus more money for relocation, for those whose jobs they know will be destroyed by it.

From the Washington Examiner:

Title IV, Subtitle B, Part 2, Section 426, of the American Clean
Energy and Security Act of 2009 states: ‘An eligible worker
(specifically, workers who lose their jobs as a result of this measure)
may receive a climate change adjustment allowance under this subsection
for a period of not longer than 156 weeks…80 percent of the monthly
premium of any health insurance coverage…up to a maximum payment of
$1,500 in relocation allowance…and job search expenses not exceed[ing]
$1,500.

Is this more important than Michael Jackson?

What say you, Mr. O'Reilly?

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

→ Quite a plum MB

No wonder they're smirkingly calling it FUNEMPLOYMENT.

Give me three years to kick back and I'd likely daytrade until I got tired of it and then decide if I want to get another job.

A little travel, a little sun, lots of time with the grandkids.

I'd be fresh, rested, tanned, and ready to run after three years.

On second thought, It would be time for me to retire and draw SS and Pension by then.

So why am I against this plan?

Because it's not honest money, and I condemn the a$$hole who would tempt me and my fellow Americans into something so parasitic towards our children.

Fixed it for ya. ;)

"Maybe after they're done covering the funeral, they'll be just in time to cover America's."

More of my thoughts

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." - Miyamoto Musashi

The relocation package

The relocation package better inclue a passport to Mexico or China, because that's where all the jobs are going to go.

Priorities

Im gonna go puke now

this is not 'liberal media

this is not 'liberal media bias'-- Fox News is all over this as much as all the other networks - IN FACT, about the only place we haven't seen 24/7 coverage this last week is... what for it..... PBS!!

Fox's involvement hurts the

Fox's involvement hurts the argument that it's the liberal media to blame for the constant over-coverage.

Who made that argument? I

Who made that argument?

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Do you have a suggestion as

Do you have a suggestion as to why Fox News isn't mentioned in this article?  It's because they're just as guilty as the other networks.

→ No kidding Kennedy

Yesterday Gretchen Carlson admitted to O'Reilly that she hated the wall-to-wall coverage but ratings dropped like a rock every time they turned to another story.

Carlson went on about the biggest tax hike in American History, but Americans didn't want to hear it.

You and I can gripe about it all we want, but America would rather worship the corpse of a humano-plastic android child molester than concern themselves with some future hit to their buying power.

I saw that, CA

BOR was BOORish....I am so over him.

It was good to see Juliette Huddy in that piece, I wonder where Fox has been hiding her.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Re BOR

BOR is often rude to the female Fox News on-air personalities.

→ Maybe so slick

But do you see any other personality of his ilk offering more of his vacation time to women to fill in?

He also has his regular segments with females, with Doocey and Beck being the only male exceptions to his regulars.

I'm thinking there are quite a few women glad to be in Bill's circle.

Well...

None of the cable news channels are mentioned in the article.  It's about the news broadcasts of ABC, NBC, CBS.

Just an observation. 

But... yeah...  They've all overdone it.  No question.  :)

 

Fox News should be included

Fox News should be included by default.  They don't have a national news show on their network.  My local affiliate covered nothing but MJ (and a moment of traffic and weather) for the 2 hours I had it on this morning.

Either way, they're ominously missing... 

→ Kennedy

Would you stop saying s#it I agree with?

I might get the impression we have more in common than I care to admit.

My apologies, Cool.  But I

My apologies, Cool.  But I bet there's quite a bit more you and I agree on that we'll discover over time.

PS - Who's your favorite baseball team? 

→ SF Giants circa '60s

Willie Mays, Orlando Cepeda, Willie McCovey, Jim Ray Hart, Juan Marichal.

That's about the last time I cared much about baseball.

I'll watch the Rangers or the Astros for obvious reasons, but then, only late in the season if there's a penant chance.

(I'm not hijacking the

(I'm not hijacking the thread, really!)

Rangers are having a pretty decent year, and Nolan Ryan looks ready to throw batting practice at every game.  Astros...not so much.  And well, since I'm a Yanks fan I guess we don't agree there.  We'll find something else.

 Movin' on.

Careful, Kennedy

Next thing you know, old Leon will be accusing you of sucking up to conservatives.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Who is Leon??? I'm

Who is Leon??? I'm intrigued.  

Now, while I'm kissing up to conservatives, let me say that I'm looking forward to the Gators kicking the sh*t out of the Trojans in this year's Championship Game. 

ILT... Worry

ILT...

Worry not....hater/leon loves ya baby ...

Wrap your arms around that.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Come closer.  No, hang on -

Come closer.  No, hang on - let me get my fly swatter first.

Ignore the Hope Diamond, Kennedy

She gets confused easily.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

B... Your post to me is a

B...

Your post to me is a perfect example of the definition of a glittering jewel of a colassal ignorance.

I know...you just can't help yourself.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Ouch

If you're going to accuse someone of colossal ignorance, you might want to look up how to spell it first.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Not to mention, Hope Diamond

That I didn't "post to you".

Sorry sweetie, you earned the sobriquet of "Hope Diamond" all by your lonesome.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Jackie...Ms. Peroxide

Jackie...Ms. Peroxide plus...

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Charmant

Put down your drink and back away from the computer, Hope Diamond.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

mz perozide... Two

mz peroxide...

Two words.

Grow up.

Comment on topics here instead of picking childish fights, like you always do, attempting to show how tough you are all the time, what a bully you are to others, playing people against each other on the board and behind the scenes...you are faaar to ooold for this...really you are...then again, some people live this way for some kind of satisfaction they can't get in real life.

May peace be with you when you achieve this.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Perhaps

Following your own advice would also be helpful.

Comment on topics here instead of picking childish fights, like you always do,

cacc... What part of it

June 30, 2009 - 18:07 ET by bigtimer

cacc...
What part of it is none of your damned business what I do with my time do you not understand?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Do as Bt says, not as she does......

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Hope Diamond

Learn to spell.

Good lord, change beer brands while you're at it.  Whatever it is you are drinking doesn't suit you, at all.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

I must have hit home with

I must have hit home with you the other night when you made a fool of yourself eh blondie-pooh...

You started it...and evidently you have never been wise enough to leave well alone.

I'm moving on...but my oh my what thin-skin you have, don't start something with wise-a$$ remarks to me like you usually do late at night when you think most don't see and then come back picking a fight later...your tactics are childish...and you really, really need to grow up..especially at the age you are...after-all, it should be a given.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Truly, t(witless)

You couldn't hit the blind side of a barn.

Carry on, though.  It's amusing.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Cheers! Doubling down on

Cheers!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Yea I know better?

But I really wish you 2, BT and Blonde would find a bit of common ground. Kinda hurts for someone who has been reading the pair of ya for a long time.

In spite of what you 2 say about each other, I doubt you could find more then a handfull here who believes any of it. Unfortunatly though, those that do, are perfect?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Sir.  You attempt to pick a

Sir.  You attempt to pick a childish fight with me every time you post.  Please heed your own advice.  

And not that she needs someone to stick up for her, but blonde hair grows naturally on some people, especially those who live in the south.   

ILT... Ha, ha.... should

ILT...

Ha, ha.... should have known you were into self-flagellation too.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

OK Kennedy

For the Gator comment, you get an invite to my buddy list.  :)

Do a little search..."LEON".  Newest screen name cat-sheeet-aaaht-reeee-oh!   (the translation is roughly "stupid").   He HATES fat people.  Likes to spam threads with posts about four sentences long.  Each in their own paragraph.  Runs from thread to thread, dropping, um, stuff,  that is provacative and totally off-topic.  

I'm betting on another two weeks of Leon action, here.   Note the distinct avoidance by Cacc of yours truly...I've had to have my boots professionally cleaned at least three times due to kicking this troll to the curb.

Stay tuned.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

B, I'd be honored.  But

B, I'd be honored.  But only if you promise to keep coming after me as hard as you can.  I'd hate to appear to be receiving special treatment. ; )

Now, are you telling me Cacciato is also Leon??  I feel betrayed.  Seems fewer and fewer people around here are in fact who they claim to be.  Shame!

wow Blonde is way more

accomadating than i am on this.

like you don't know who Leon is?  Next you'll claim ignorance of KDW and guttermouth, and Syrius and Cyrano, and Proff truth and............

well you get it but don't lie to our face......

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts 

Blonde, I'm confused by your

Blonde, I'm confused by your claim...which of my many many posts to you indicate avoidance? Ha. Either your memory is hurting or you are suffering from delusions of grandeur.

Ps sweet cat fight with BT. Did you PM her demanding she give her friendship bracelet back? Ha! NBs unhinged! Did anyone bring popcorn?

Here Cacciato

You, matter-of-factly, said Sarah Palin is going to jail.

You said it's time for NewsBusters to face reality.

After the FBI said they had no investigation, you switched to DOJ.

Either you've got the info or you don't, but you've been avoidi8ng the issue ever since you made the claim.

You'er dumber than a bag-o-hammers...

...Your "cat fight" comment proves you are a typical DU or HUFPO dipshit. We respect our female NB'ers here. So take a hike cupcake.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Mighty One.... I thank

Mighty One....

I thank you for those words.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

No problem BT...

... I just hate hypocrisy in the left (or anywhere)! 

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Hi MM.

Good to see you. Out of curiosity can you tell me what a catfight has to with hypocrisy?

He had my vote

NOW Shawn, get with the plan!

You sexist you... :-) 

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM, How is the term cat

MM,

How is the term cat fight disrepectful? Its a common and accepted saying to describe two women busting each others chops.

What exactly makes it disrepectful?

Knowing you this should be good

Ps if you are so respectful of women why would you curse in front of them? Doesn't seem very repectful to me!

Ominously? :)

Cable news channels are a bit of a different species.  It's not a straight-across-the-board comparison.  However, if you think all the cable news channels should be included in the analysis as well, I'm not disagreeing with that.

Yes K, I agree.  Cable news

Yes K, I agree.  Cable news is different.  But it's typical when slamming the MSM to leave out Fox when they're guilty of the same crimes.  I normally watch my local Fox news every weekday morning and MSNBC during the day (let the jokes begin), and neither had any interest in anything but MJ today, or any other day since his death for that matter.

Brent is wrong.  There IS

Brent is wrong.  There IS a justification, it's just not a justification that works for normal people who have standards and morals.

There is no Republican president to bash, no military objective to oppose (now that their boy is at the helm) and no political benefit to their amoral socialist agenda.

That they covered it at all is curious.

I would disagree. The

I would disagree. The Afghanistan war didn't have the opposition that the Iraqi War had, I think that many democrats supported going into Afghanistan to find, D.O.A., those that planned and were behind the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

The Afghanistan war was overlooked and overshadowed by the Iraqi war the last couple of years. The war in Iraq always had more opposition than the war in Afghanistan, because to many, the war in Iraq wasn't justified, which is why many opposed it.  

"This is a prime example of

"This is a prime example of why network television news audiences are disappearing before our eyes."

Not really. News numbers across the board have been boosted by the coverage of Michael Jackson's death, and whether we like it or not, it is big news. They're just giving people what they want. 

Do I wish they were covering cap/trade, and national health care more? Sure, but would it matter.....does the public really care about those things? They SHOULD, but, like most things political,  I'm guessing they aren't interested. They're too busy checking out Michael Jackson coverage to be bothered by these trivial issues.

Network news numbers may be dwindling overall, but this isn't why.

       Stating the

 

 

 

 Stating the obvious to deaf ears!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I LOVE DEAD KENNEDY'S"

Do We Ever Stop Whining????

What is it with us; do we have to bemoan every misstep made by the MSM?  When has it ever made them take stock and alter their course?  Do you think they care about what MRC thinks?  Fox is hailed as the right's response to the Major Networks, yet, they are as egregious in their broadcast of nonsense as any of them.  Forget the Michael Jackson drama, what about the dumb ass car chases, the fascination with murder of women, and their relentless programming changes - removing the Beltway Boys for starters.  More and more they're into the tabloid crap.  And don't even get me started on Geraldo and Shep - why haven't they visited the families of the soldiers for their stories?  Sorry, they're busy w/Michael.  And speaking of the brave young soldiers killed this past week (may they all rest in peace), rather than bemoan the insensitve ignorance of the main stream media, better we make it a point to honor them w/a  column or two, or encourage Fox to highlight their lives - yelling at the MSM is a total waste of time.

And What About This?????

Where was Bozell's criticism of Fox for pre-empting their Special Report w/Bret Baier, the night of Michael Jackson's demise.  Fox will pre-empt their news shows at the drop of a hat for a tabloid story, no matter whose been killed in service to their country.  On this particular evening, they couldn't spare one hour of world  and national news so they could stay fixated on the MJ story - and this, knowing full well they'd be covering it 24/7, at least thru the weekend.  E-mails to Special Report got the standard line "we're back, hope you stay tuned."  If you're going to be a first rate news organization, there needs to be rules for pre-emption, and Fox is the worst at holding the line against tabloid dribble.  If Bozell is going to be critical of the MSM for their lapses, he needs to smack Fox around a bit for their's.

Bozell also didn't mention

Bozell also didn't mention CNBC or MSNBC. 

That's because he was talking about NETWORK television...not the cable news guys.  You know, the everyman's networks,  the guys who pride themselves on bringing America the 6 o'clock news every night.  The BIG 3.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Oops mb... Right you

Oops mb...

Right you are.

I should have paid more attention to that myself before I posted above a few place regarding this.

I just always automatically include FOX as #1 in the ratings...

Good point you made.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I was praying we wouldn't

I was praying we wouldn't have a nuclear attack or anything this afternoon because all the news networks were covering the memorial, commercial free.  Had we had any kind of emergency I doubt any of them would have interrupted their broadcast.

Rad... No gal...your post

Rad...

Now gal...your post says it all....and I am serious.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

No end in sight

Next up on the MJ story list:

-drug test results from the autopsy; they take a few days longer than the physical autopsy.
-custody fight over the children.
-court battles over estate properties; much of MJ's estate consist of items that are the definition of illiquid, and many of them already have mortgages on them; ie Beatles book, Neverland, new unpublished songs, etc. Establishing values very difficult.
-investigations of doctors and other medical providers; may be criminal. Lots of controversial testimony to come.

Yep

Yep, yep, and yep. Acts cant wait.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Let's, For A Second, Replace Jackson's Name With "Reagan"...

It was just five years ago in June that Ronald Reagan died. Here's the Wikipedia article link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_Ronald_Reagan

I may have been a teenager when I was watching it, but I do remember the wall-to-wall coverage of Reagan's funeral, his motorcade throughout the day. Yet, we had fighting men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan at the time as well, and on the day of Reagan's funeral (or should I say five days of funeral, as his casket was presented at the capitol rotunda for 36 hours), the following things occured (again, courtesy of Wikipedia:)

Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_in_Afghanistan#June): 

"Monday, June 7 - A U.S. soldier was killed and two others wounded after their vehicle hit a landmine in southeastern Afghanistan. They were taken to Kandahar airfield hospital where the one soldier died.

Tuesday, June 8 - U.S.-led coalition and Afghan forces completed a week-long operation in the Daychopan District ofZabul Province,Afghanistan. Through the course of the operation, 73 rebel fighters were killed and 13 captured. Six Afghan government forces and four coalition soldiers were wounded, and none killed.

Wednesday, June 9 - Eleven Chinese aid workers from Jiangxi province were killed in their compound by a score of armed men in KunduzAfghanistan, and another six were wounded. Taliban spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi stated the Taliban were not involved.

Thursday, June 10 - In Kunduz ProvinceAfghanistan, police chief Mutaleb Beg announced that two suspects were detained in connection with the previous day's massacre of Chinese aid workers.

Friday, June 11 - In southeast Afghanistan, eleven rockets were fired at a U.N. convoy carrying government officials.

 And let's not forget that we were fighting the War in Iraq as well at the time, but I'm having trouble pulling up the pdf files on the reported casualties that occured during the days of mourning for Presiddent Reagan, so I decided to just stick to the point here about the military deaths in Afghanistan. This will happen regardless if the media is mourning Ronald Reagan or Michael Jackson. The only difference is that you think Reagan is God and Jackson is the Devil. I don't see thing in such a twisted way. They were both mortal men who had to deal with the fact that they are mortal, nothing more and nothing less. 

→ Sticks

If Michael Jackson had been something other than a self-loathing, crotch-grabbing, drug-addicted, child molester, no doubt we'd be more sympathetic.  Yeah, he was talented.  

But your Reagan = Jackson routine is about as far-fetched an argument as I've seen.

You're just too willing to overlook too much.

Reagan was the President, Jackson was a performer.

"They were both mortal men who had to deal with the fact that they are mortal, nothing more and nothing less. "

You do realise the difference between a President and a performer, don't you?  Yes, we morn the loss of the people we respect, but does ANY performer deserve the "respect" displayed by of wall-to-wall coverage like MJ has been getting?  Since when has a performer risen to the level of such prominence in our collective psyche as to warrant this type of public spectacle over his death?

By comparing MJ to Reagan, you trivialize Reagan (or ANY President)and immortalize MJ, and for what?  To compare a performer to a President is to elevate the actual IMPORTANCE of that performer (no matter  who that performer is) and belittle the actual IMPORTANCE of a President. No performer, one who simply puts on a display for public enjoyment, can match  the IMPORTANCE of someone like Reagan who was in  actual position of power and control over the citizenship.  Did MJ have any of the responsibilities that a President has, and did MJ meet any of the formidable challenges all President face?  No, he was SHIELDED from such responsibility and challenges because of his occupation as a performer.  So, how can you compare MJ to Reagan?

You may not realize this, but Reagan deserved his honers as he served his country well, both in the military and as President.  Who did MJ serve, other than himself? You need to remember, the Michael Jackson  the people are morning is just an image, one cultivated for public display. He made no policy, administered no laws , commanded no armies, and has done very little that actually affected people's lives.  So, why all the hero worship for a cultivated public persona?  It doesn't make any sense. 

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Reagan was in the military?

"he served his country well, both in the military"

That's news to me..link please.

Commissioned Officer in the reserves

 
Reagan was a Commissioned Officer in the Army Reserves in 1935.  (He served the military) He was called to active duty in Nov. 1941 but was disqualified due to his astigmatism. Link

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Must be caused by too much

Must be caused by too much scotch.

 

"

After completing fourteen home-study Army Extension Courses, Reagan enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve[26] on April 29, 1937, as a private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa.[27] He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on May 25, 1937, and on June 18 was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.[28]

Reagan was ordered to active duty for the first time on April 18, 1942. Due to his nearsightedness, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas.[29] His first assignment was at the San Francisco Port of Embarkation at Fort Mason, California, as a liaison officer of the Port and Transportation Office.[30] Upon the approval of the Army Air Force (AAF), he applied for a transfer from the Cavalry to the AAF on May 15, 1942, and was assigned to AAF Public Relations and subsequently to the 1st Motion Picture Unit (officially, the "18th AAF Base Unit") in Culver City, California.[30] On January 14, 1943 he was promoted to First Lieutenant and was sent to the Provisional Task Force Show Unit of This Is The Army at Burbank, California.[30] He returned to the 1st Motion Picture Unit after completing this duty and was promoted to Captain on July 22, 1943.[27]

In January 1944, Captain Reagan was ordered to temporary duty in New York City to participate in the opening of the sixth War Loan Drive. He was re-assigned to the 18th AAF Base Unit on November 14, 1944, where he remained until the end of World War II.[27] He was recommended for promotion to Major on February 2, 1945, but this recommendation was disapproved on July 17 of that year.[31] He returned to Fort MacArthur, California, where he was separated from active duty on December 9, 1945.[31] By the end of the war, his units had produced some 400 training films for the AAF.[27]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan

 

Even the Miserable Wikipedia has this.

Further detail

Here's a little more datail if you're interested:

  • 1935 February 27 Enlisted as a private in the Army Reserve.

  • 1943 January 14 Promoted to First Lieutenant. July 22 Promoted to Captain.

  • 1945
    February 2 Recommended for promotion to Major. July 17 Promotion to
    Major disapproved. December 9 Honorably discharged from the Army.

Link

 

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Alright already, I stand

Alright already, I stand corrected. Jeez you'd think by now I'd know better. I think I'll just stay out of American politics forever.

Research does help

You don't need to "stay out" simply because you don't  know something and have to ask.  How can we learn if we never question? Look at it this way: there's no such thing as a stupid question. I don't mind being asked, nor should you be embarrassed for asking.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Take some single malt.  It

Take some single malt.  It will cure almost anything the canadian Health System cannot.

I'm sure I'll raise some

I'm sure I'll raise some hackles here, but writing as a vet, I disagree with this modern concept that we have to treat the death of every soldier like a national day of mourning!  So seven soldiers died in Afghanistan... that's why they call it a war!  We lost 45,000 soldiers on D-Day and shortly after... should the media of the day taken extensive time to recognize each and every one of them?

Rush Limbaugh often discusses "White Guilt" as an explanation of why so many whites are falling all over themselves to be nice to blacks.  I think there is also "Civilian Guilt", which I attribute to so many people feeling guilty for never serving their country, so they think fawning over every soldier's death will make them feel better.

Those of us who did serve, or are serving, don't need extensive media coverage of the deaths of our fellow servicemen.  Most of us would be happy with a simple "thank you" when we come home.  And if the media wants to devote extensive time to shower glory and fame on a dead singer, let them.  Most of us in uniform aren't serving so we can be showered with fame and hoopla, so please leave that nonsense to the celebrities.

Thanks for your service

Thanks for your service Bruzilla.   But I do think we should do more to acknowlege the sacrifices of the military and their families.  I saw in Reader's Digest an adress to send postcards to vets recovering from wounds so I'm going to do that, but I'd like to do more. 

I don't have to acknowledge

I don't have to acknowledge the sacrifices of the military and their families as my family and I have already made them.  But to the point, we knew what we were getting into when we made those sacrifices, just like the folks today do.  We are expected to put our lives on the line for our country, and that's what we do.  My objection is all of this "civilian guilt" that's being poured around by people who never served and are trying to get over their guilt about not serving their country by falling all over themselves to praise the military.

In this case, we lost seven guys.  Those guys will all be remembered by the folks who mattered most to them - their families, the folks in their units, and the folks who have served with them before.  I would bet none of these guys went to their deaths with concerns about how much air time their deaths would get, and I find these discussions about why more media attention isn't paid to them as insulting.  If they cared about media attention, they would be singers and not soldiers.

Counterpoint

  I would bet none of these guys went to their deaths with concerns about how much air time their deaths would get, and I find these discussions about why more media attention isn't paid to them as insulting.  If they cared about media attention, they would be singers and not soldiers.  Absolutely, but I think this misses the point.  The principle is that we should focus more on people who have done something for the good of others rather than just a pop star.

Don't get me wrong, I get a certain level of attention on Michael Jackson.  But this seems a little much even to me.  A cable channel or MTV could have covered this just fine.  But ALL of the networks and cable news channels???

I never asked for it...but when I came home from deployment, it was nonetheless moving to me - and I am sure others - to see people in line greeting the troops, distributing cards and goodie bags, and so forth. Things like this do matter, especially in light of recent events.  For example...my old man never set foot in Vietnam, but he had to put up with some disrespectful crap from people who saw him in uniform.  I can only imagine what the vets from that war went through... 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Thanks for your service

Thanks for your service Bruzilla.   But I do think we should do more to acknowlege the sacrifices of the military and their families.  I saw in Reader's Digest an adress to send postcards to vets recovering from wounds so I'm going to do that, but I'd like to do more. 

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

Is a legal concept used in court. Has nothing to do with actual guilt. If a million people saw someone commit murder, or rape of a child on a video, but the video was obtained without a warrant, the criminal would walk. He is deemed "not guilty".

What does that have to do with the fact that he killed or raped?

In my opinion, Jackson was a pedophile, a freak, and a really sick individual. Peter King is right, we are better off without him.  

 

WHat a sick world we live in, to memorialize a freak like this.