For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Obama speaks to "State of the Black Union."
"You know that tough times for America often mean tougher times for African Americans. This recession has been no exception," Obama told the 10th annual "State of the Black Union" gathering, noting that the unemployment rate among African-Americans is five points higher than the national average.
How does this make you feel? Aren't we ONE nation? How can we be ONE nation if there's a Black Union?
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Sickening
March 1, 2009 - 10:59 ET by OldSailor88Hypothetical situation:
What would be the reaction if the thread had been titled this?
President Bush speaks to "State of the White Nation."
The Congressional White
March 1, 2009 - 11:06 ET by sublight68The Congressional White Caucus would've stood by him.
especially...
March 1, 2009 - 11:29 ET by clinging to my guns and my religion...during white history month!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
And we could read about it in
March 2, 2009 - 15:09 ET by ahusserIvory magazine.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
did you see their january issue?
March 2, 2009 - 18:47 ET by clinging to my guns and my religionthey had a wonderful article on the 2008 miss white american pageant!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
OS... Exactly
March 1, 2009 - 14:23 ET by bigtimerOS...
Exactly right....I've posted about Smiley and this bull for a couple of days now here...it is never ending with this crap....and I am sick and tired of it, this is the tenth year now of the continuing racism as far as I am concerned.
What if we had a White Caucus as the Blacks do in congress...we would never hear the end of it...on and on it goes.
bt
March 1, 2009 - 18:43 ET by Rush FanBefore I retired I worked for a number of large aerospace corporations. As expected, every one of them emphasized "diversity." So they encouraged organizations and groups within the company that highlighted this diversity. So there were the Black Engineers group, the Black Women Engineers group, the Hispanic group, the Asian group, etc. For some unexplained reason, there were no groups that had "white" as part of their name. Of course, if you were white you probably couldn't join these other groups.
Now I am all for diversity, but for a corporation to emphasize and encourage its employees to join organizations within the company based on ethnicity is a blatant form of segregation.
the MSM would lead the revolt
March 1, 2009 - 15:22 ET by surfergirl54If it had been Bush who said such things then there would be an uproar over it.
Obummer wants to keep the race thing going. This is not good for the USA at all.
To paraphrase Rush's CPAC
March 1, 2009 - 11:03 ET by sublight68To paraphrase Rush's CPAC speech, Conservatives look out across the country and see individuals, Americans, each with the potential to succeed if government would just get out of the way.
Liberals see groups, victims, each needing to be kept aggrieved and told they're destined to fail, their only hope to remain beholden to the government.
There is no one country to Liberals, just hyphenated Amercian groups to keep stirred up and dependent on the government's benevolence.
Why I enjoy telephone surveys.
March 1, 2009 - 11:09 ET by Kingfish17I don't hang up when I get a telephone survey, and here is why. One of the earlier questions in any of these surveys is inquiring about my "race". I am always very cordial to the person on the other end of the phone, until they get to the question about race. I respond:
"Why are you asking that question? Why is someone's race so important? Now I know that you don't make up the questions, but by participating in racially divisive steryotyping and racial classifications, you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. You should be concerned that you continue to use race to divide our great nation instead of trying to bring us together. I refuse to participate any further with this survey."
Or something along those lines.
Our nation and the world will cease becoming racist when race is no longer even considered. I really believe that if we lined up everyone in the world, that we would go from one end of the color spectrum to the other and there would be no way to distinguish the "races". That's my dream.
"When will Barack Obama apologize to the American people for destroying their once great nation?" - MSM 2012
Race
March 1, 2009 - 11:53 ET by kch50428When doing paper or on-line surveys, if there's a race question - I select "Other" and write-in "Human".
That's good. I'll have to
March 1, 2009 - 12:04 ET by ThisnThatThat's good. I'll have to remember that.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
The Gore Effect Strikes Again
March 1, 2009 - 11:10 ET by dboFrom the "you can't write this stuff file", a giant snowstorm is forecast for D.C tomorrow just in time to greet what is being billed as "the largest mass civil disobedience for the climate in U.S. history".
Here is the correct link to the AGW Wingnut Convention
March 1, 2009 - 11:46 ET by CThttp://www.capitolclimateaction.org
Let's see if anybody shows
March 1, 2009 - 12:02 ET by ThisnThatLet's see if anybody shows up in overcoats, boots, and mittens trying to stay warm. If they had any sense of integrity, they'd all show up in cutoffs, sandals, and t-shirts.
I'm also willing to bet that everyone that shows up is coming from a nice, warm house -- temperature set at 75-80 degrees. And they aren't walking -- they are using some kind of vehicle to get there (using energy, of course). Some celebrities will fly in -- on their private jets.
And the MSM will lap it up, never pointing out the obvious hypocrisy and double-standards from those people trying to tell us how to live our lives. I want them to put their money where their mouth is -- commit mass suicide and start solving their excess-CO2 problem.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
This is NOT a coincidence
March 1, 2009 - 14:06 ET by HelenSThis is NOT a coincidence and proves, to me at least, that God has an awesome sense of humor :o)
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Yea HelenS, He also answers Prayer..
March 1, 2009 - 14:32 ET by upcountrywaterOne little terrified girl in public school, force fed the algore lies pumped up by the lefty teachers...Prayed to God to cool the planet, and that prayer is being answered.
Cooler next year... Earth, Jupiter and the spot free Sun shown to scale,( scrool down a bit)..
pURPLe pINKy
Where the Hell is MY WHITE UNION
March 1, 2009 - 11:18 ET by DelsaI am sick and tired of being devided BUT
now I know we are divided so THHHHHHHank you SOB ama and the BLACK UNION.
I am different, I don't have my hand out and the BLACK UNION and those they represent DO.
I REFUSE to give anymore!
PERIOD!
F*** SOB ama and his BLACK UNION!
F them, F them all!
Am I pissed off? You bet I am!
Please purchase great real estate deals in Florida. Get in touch with me.
Yeah Delsa. What you said
March 1, 2009 - 12:57 ET by the strugglerYeah Delsa. What you said goes for me...pencil me in.
F*** SOB ama and his BLACK UNION!
March 1, 2009 - 15:45 ET by shawn228Please don't hold back Delsa ;-)
He had my vote
Shawn
March 2, 2009 - 00:09 ET by DelsaI'm an old broad who has reached the end of her rope with this racist stuff.
I am not, nor have I ever been a racist BUT SOBama is pushing me to the limit.
It is infuriating to be
March 2, 2009 - 07:24 ET by BDIt is infuriating to be continuously told that we are the racists, yet I have never attended a single event that was based on race - ever!
Obama goes to a racist church, is leader of a racist party, and benefits from the racial set-asides of a worshipping media. And it worships him why? Because of race....
A headline you won't see
March 1, 2009 - 11:19 ET by ReaverThe Obama recession- women and minorities hardest hit.
If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers
Off The Cliff
March 1, 2009 - 11:32 ET by Gat New YorkI think this mantra of Black victimization is tired and old. What happened in the 1900's and prior is irrelevant unless you are are Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or Jeremiah Wright and their followers.
The socialist policies of Captain Zero will drive this country's economy over a cliff and the people who believe are getting handouts will watch their job prospects and income disappear.
This man is a socialist and a danger to our national security.
The ONLY thing I agree with that Obama said was:
". . . we know that government cannot and will not succeed alone. It will take all of us stepping up and doing our part. It will take the commitment of parents and teachers and community leaders."
If they want to look for reasons why African Americans are still dispropotionately out of work or poor then ask people like Obama, or Stanley Neal, or Richard Parson, or every other wealthy and powerful Black person and what they have done personally to break this cycle of poverty, and stop blaming government.
The real danger here is
March 1, 2009 - 12:12 ET by ThisnThatThe real danger here is that Obama is re-enforcing the idea that there is a sub-nation within the U.S. His presence gives this organization support and bragging rights; and pushes them even further away from mainstream America. Why would Obama do this? Answer: Because Obama, himself, doesn't see him as part of America. This is his chance to re-cast America in his own vision, tearing it apart from within; and leaving it vulnerable to outside forces. I truly don't think he likes this country. I'm still waiting for the first piece of evidence that proves me wrong.
BTW, has anyone seen that he has nominated a partial-birth abortion advocate for his cabinet? Since the abortion rate among blacks is highest, what does this say about Obama? Does he think killing more black people is the path to full acceptance by the liberal elitist-class?
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
Even more than "not seeing
March 1, 2009 - 13:41 ET by Gat New YorkEven more than "not seeing himself as part of America" Obama was never part of Black America until he left Columbia and sought to use Black America to further his own political purpose.
In threading his life with his mentors, Obama is a socialist and a well schooled Alinskyite who is using those tactics to lull America into socialism.
Being half white and having grown up with a white mother, white grandparents, in white neighborhoods and white privileged schools Obama could hardly say he had the typical "black experience." But to further his own goals he has used racism and black support to achieve his goals.
As someone else said
March 1, 2009 - 13:54 ET by general companyIf Obama family ever new the trials and sufferage of the American Black man, it was from the buisness side.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
It's hopeless ya'll
March 1, 2009 - 11:47 ET by jdlybrandYou can't fix stupid.
Did he tell them the truth?
March 1, 2009 - 11:50 ET by ThisnThatDid he tell them the truth? That when Obama starts raising taxes on hard-working Americans, that their spending cutbacks will trickle down and increase the unemployment rate even further? That Obama's "Gov-makeshift-jobs" are all dead-end, and will offer no advancement opportunities at all for any low-end wage-earners? That as long as blacks (or anyone else) think of themselves as disadvantaged, that they will always remain poor? That other minorities -- Asian, for example -- don't have the same victimhood mentality, and are wealthy and prosperous?
Even better, Obama could have mentioned Bill Cosby, and proclaimed that Cosby's observations were spot-on about the black community, and that everyone should pay heed to Cosby's warnings. Did Obama do that? Or did he just simply stick to the old racial handbook -- whites are evil and oppressive; you have no chance; therefore, democrats will take care of you forever; please vote for us again?
Obama is pathetic. He will never get above his community organizer mentality.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
Obama is not a 'leader'
March 1, 2009 - 12:02 ET by Sergeant ROCKObama is pathetic. He will never get above his community organizer mentality.
You got that right. Obama does not lead. He has 'study groups'.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Black Republicans Must Go Forth
March 1, 2009 - 11:50 ET by Mr. Mikeand take on The One. Lynn Swan and others need to provide evidence that the econ plans of Obama are disasterous for the black community, especially the black middle class.
I emailed the McCain campaign in Sept. with an idea for an add that went like this: A dozen prominent black republicans surround John McCain. Each looks into the camera and says "Race doesn't define my political party or my ideology." Then the final black republican says something along the lines of "Barack Obama is wrong for this country." The only thing McCain says at the very end is that he approves of this message. Yep, they never replied. Not even a thanks but no thanks.
Remember, McCain was endorsed by the niece of MLK and the msm was SILENT!
The "State of the Black Union"
March 1, 2009 - 11:55 ET by CTAka "The National Grievance Committee"
Clyburn
March 1, 2009 - 12:45 ET by mom_roxIt was very interesting that Rep. Clyburn (D-SC) sees the Stimulus Package as a Reparations Package.
Ha, I think Obama's support must be
March 1, 2009 - 12:16 ET by general companySlipping amongst Blacks, he is calculating, he does nothing that isnt preordained. Ha I say. I have lots of Black friends, and I have been getting the impression of buyers remorse from some of the ones that voted for Obama (yes I know many that didnt). Funny thing I have noticed about most Black folks, they are as conservitive as any of us. Being poor and having to work hard will do that to you, infact that is what converted me as well. Cant wait to get home today and talk to my neighbor about this.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Another RINO?
March 1, 2009 - 12:20 ET by shawn228Not sure if most here would consider him a RINO or not but Republican whip Eric Cantor R- Va rejected comments from Limbaugh.
He had my vote
RINO
March 1, 2009 - 12:36 ET by GothampcI think we can define RINO as anyone who wants to be bi-partisan and reach across the aisle. Cantor fits into that category.
Rush mentioned bi-partisanship in his speech and how it has different meanings for the GOP and the Dems.
A message should be sent to Michael Steele: No more reaching across the aisle!!
RINO Alert!
March 1, 2009 - 12:42 ET by Sergeant ROCKIndeed. How much do you want to bet that he was part of that 40% Republican earmarks? What a coward.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
The argument can be made that
March 1, 2009 - 12:53 ET by shawn228we did things the Republican way for over two years when President Bush won the election in 04. The GOP congress did not do very well and neither did the partisan Dem congress that was elected in 06.
President Clinton and the Republican congress worked well together even though they did not like each other very much. Sometimes its better to reach a compromise.
He had my vote
Yea I dont know Shawn
March 1, 2009 - 13:11 ET by general companyGeorge Stephanopoulos :
"So the Rush Limbaugh approach of hoping the president fails is not the Eric Cantor, House Republican approach?" I asked.
"Absolutely not," Cantor said. "And I don't -- I don't think anyone wants anything to fail right now. We have such challenges. What we need to do is we need to put forth solutions to the problems that real families are facing today."
I think George is taking liberties with the headline:
"Cantor today rejected Limbaugh's rhetoric."
While I disagree with Cantor, I could not help but notice that George did not bother with any particulars, witch in my opinion is cowardly, especially considering the headline.
"We are a party with many ideas. And we have in that a commitment to
make sure that we have positive alternatives, if we don't agree with
this administration," Cantor said.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Screw him!
March 1, 2009 - 21:17 ET by UnsaneMaybe, but I'd argue that the reason Mr. Greatthings got along so well with the Republican Congress from 1995-2001 was because he is NOT a leader, never has been and never will be. He was willing to say and do anything to occupy the White House and fly Air Force One. Period. (Please note he was dragged kicking and screaming, for instance, into signing Welfare Reform into law; something he vetoed twice before signing it into law in an election year...for one example.)
Screw Eric Cantor. It's funny to me how the Republicans always are the ones who HAVE to suck-up, cross the aisle and compromise, while the Dems and the Left do not dare have to do such a thing.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Anyone reaching across the
March 1, 2009 - 12:59 ET by BDAnyone reaching across the aisle herewith loses my support. Cantor? Get over it or you will be soon gone.
BD
March 1, 2009 - 13:08 ET by Sergeant ROCKThis is exactly what Rush was talking about. Cantor wants to be adored by the MSM. One might ask Cantor this question: Do you or Rush represent the majority of conservatives in the GOP? So shut yer hole Cantor!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
There will be many such claims
March 1, 2009 - 13:20 ET by general companyIn the future, Rush is right that we cant diluted our principals, but the Dems and old media will claim as much every chance they get. They know we are getting energized
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
"...be adored..."
March 1, 2009 - 17:00 ET by JPR1Exactly Sarge. Hmmm, now who does that remind me of?
I watched this and Cantor missed a sterling opportunity to inform all the libs that yes, the Obama administrations policies are bad news and the Republicans will continue to oppose them. Period.
Maybe he's just not up to speed and should listen to Rush.
I could not agree more
March 1, 2009 - 17:04 ET by bigtimerI could not agree more BD...
Cantor has neer been one of my favs anyway...when I see what has been going on with him lately msm wise....I feel my instincts were right.
thanks for nothing Eric Cantor
March 1, 2009 - 18:23 ET by candanceI voted for you and this is the best you can do?? You're on my list.
But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.
-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823
Shawn228
March 2, 2009 - 15:21 ET by ahusserSomeone needs to take his whip away. He is the one in charge to make Republican reps vote along party lines. I don't see how he can do his job by being a closet liberal. Anyway it seemed the article was focusing on the "I hope Obama fails" soundbite. Of course taken out of context and used as a weapon. I am now convinced that Obama's failure in every venue is necessary. Unfortunately his failure could be catastrophic. I hope it doesn't come to the old Vietnam saying "I had to destroy the village in order to save it."
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
Obammy's Racist Garbage
March 1, 2009 - 12:21 ET by slickwillie2001Is there a statement from the White Congressional Causus on this? Oh, right, -there isn't one.
Obama's Global New Deal
March 1, 2009 - 12:30 ET by GothampcHold on to your wallets, Obama's New Deal is going global. And who do you think will end up paying for it? (I doubt it will be the oil rich Arabs)
"GORDON BROWN hopes to forge a partnership with President Barack Obama in
Washington this week, to call for a “global new deal” to lift the world out
of recession."
http://www.timesonli...
This Global New Deal stuff is not a little scary.
March 1, 2009 - 18:38 ET by R D HelmObama is starting to scare the hell out of me, and I don't scare easily.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Dave....Yep, here's the
March 1, 2009 - 18:45 ET by celatorDave....Yep, here's the plan: screw up the world's money supply and scare the living daylights out of people all over the world.
Then come in with the solution people can't "resist",--a universal monetary system.
And while you're at it, create a world-wide health system, a world wide "security" system, a world wide leadership group, a world wide tax system and a world wide government.
What could possibly go wrong with that?
Mickey Mouse is one
of "Satan's soldiers" and must die, says Saudi Arabian cleric Sheikh
Muhammad Munajid. - Daily Telegraph (UK), 9/15/08
I am not surprised. Obami
March 1, 2009 - 12:50 ET by ConservativeRexI am not surprised. Obami is just following the John Edwards playbook. It worked out pretty good for Edwards didn't it?
Not to anyone's surprise, there's been two America's since there was an America. And Obami will do everything in his power to keep it that way. I am starting to think that Obami actually hates white Americans. Oh, he'll use the fellow travelers when he can, but he dosen't give a rats butt about white Americans.
This is their time to shine. Now is it starting to get a little clearer for everyone? Four years, only.
Obammy's Chief Counsel Tax Problems
March 1, 2009 - 12:55 ET by slickwillie2001Can anyone tell me why this story does not seem to be getting any traction?
Obama's Chief Vetter Has His Own Tax Problem: http://gawker.com/51...
From the article: "White House general counsel Gregory Craig has seized control of Obama's vetting process after a series of nominees with unpaid
taxes. But his wife's business may also have avoided taxes. Who vets
the vetter?"
Sure it's an unusual 'news' source, but it would not be difficult for newspapers and cable news folks to look into it and confirm. What's up? Have we become numb to tax cheats on Obammy's team?
Harry Reid
March 1, 2009 - 14:04 ET by jdlybrandI found it interesting that His Highness Reid was not at all thrilled that Obama was only drawing down troops to 50,000 in Iraq. He was wanting the Prez to say more like 30,000 in order to appease the anti-war dreamers. For Harry it has nothing to do with what is right or in the best interest of the US. It has to do with the power he wishes to hold on to.
"Mr President; this war is lost" Harry Reid
The only difference between Harry Reid and a bag of S**t is the bag.
Why was Michael Steele at the Black State of Union?
March 1, 2009 - 15:20 ET by jefflebowskiNobody has mentioned that Michael Steele was there also. What was his message? This story has been blanked out by the MSM. I personally believe that Steele should have stayed away and concentrated on spreading conservative values instead of victimhood!
Angry White Dude
http://angrywhitedud...
AWD... Me thinks he
March 1, 2009 - 15:33 ET by bigtimerAWD...
Me thinks he thinks he is reaching across the aisle...
I was disappointed myself, but not in the least surprised when I heard this late yesterday afternoon.
I have watched this production for about eight years (can't take it anymore and have posted as such), all the while seething with the blame the repubs and the white race forever now...if Steele thinks he is going to get any of the audience that watches this drivel to join the repub party...as far as I am concerned, he is smoking something in his pipe that creates delusions...it is a big waste of time.
Just my opinion....
I am not so sure BT and Jeff
March 1, 2009 - 16:04 ET by general companyI will need to know more, but I think Steele has make it pretty clear as of late that he has no plans to do anything but recover our conservitive roots. I have been listening to him quite a bit on XM radio, he sound pretty good to me so far. I can think of a few reasons he might want to attend, counter insurgency for one.
I will give him the benifit of the doubt, for now.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Hey gc... I have also
March 1, 2009 - 16:13 ET by bigtimerHey gc...
I have also listened to him on various television interviews...Do not get me wrong...I have always liked Steele just fine. I have supported him for years, especially when it came to what the dem party did to him with Schumer leading the way when it came to him running for Sen. or Gov or whatever it was back then...
What I am not for is this we have to reach across the aisle all the time...and Rush spelled out exactly how I feel in spades yesterday...it gets us nowhere...let us build it, and they will come, ot they won't...but nevertheless...enough of this Gingrich, Rove, Barnes, McC etc type of we have to just reach out some more...
Heck if we do...it is a major waste of time and money in my opinion.
Absolutly BT
March 1, 2009 - 16:24 ET by general companyI agree, I know Steele may not have been perfect in the past, being elected in MD may make one compromise his principals. But I like what I am hearing from him as of late. He refused to bad mouth Rush and other conservitives. Talking smaller Gov lowering spending acknowledging the past problem we have had and how to correct them.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
General Company
March 2, 2009 - 00:15 ET by DelsaI agree with your thoughts on Michael Steele.
I am glad he went because it is about time this association of Black people finally saw a true articulate Black Man with a totally different set of Ideas.
He is the one who can get our point across in these forums.
Michael Steele is not just some white guy talking surrender!
Doesn't bother me one bit that he went. He won't get the leaders but he could spark a fire under the followers?
If we haven't heard about it, he had to have been GREAT!
I personally believe that Steele should have stayed away and con
March 1, 2009 - 15:43 ET by shawn228"I personally believe that Steele should have stayed away and
concentrated on spreading conservative values instead of victimhood!"
and what victimhood would that be?
He had my vote
shawn... ....surely you
March 1, 2009 - 15:48 ET by bigtimershawn...
....surely you jest!
Where have you been the last 40 years?
Hi bt
March 1, 2009 - 15:50 ET by shawn228I'm asking specifically what victimhood Michael Steele is talking about. Was it recent? Or something he said 2 years ago.
He had my vote
shawn... Have you watched
March 1, 2009 - 15:59 ET by bigtimershawn...
Have you watched these Smiley forums for the past 10 yrs? If not do so....you will have your answers... I have posted about this for two or three days now here and there...it is nothing but a put-down to the white man, the repub party, especially the conservatives as they cry and whine about how put upon they are...to this day... ENOUGH ALREADY!
Get a life, get a job,, quit whining and pointing the finger of blame at others for your self-dependency on the govt...wake up, the dem party has been doing nothing but using you for your votes all these years, they want you to not succeed....and the Marxists in the forum like Cornell West for just one example have their own agenda as far as I am concerned...it is a sad day when 13% of the pop. rule all of us here in the USA and have made all of us fearful of any little word we say that may be intentionally misconstrued for their own agenda...
I am past tired of it ALL!
BREAKING NEWS! Hot Off The Press! The New York Times is
March 1, 2009 - 16:34 ET by Rush Fanreporting in an article titled: New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae that these two agencies are finally going to be fixed once and for all.
The New York Times: "Under the plan, disclosed at a congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry."
The New York Times: "The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt -- is broken."
If these quasi-government agencies are permanently repaired, perhaps the crisis we are in will not be exacerbated.
However, the plan proposed by the administration may still be difficult to get through Congress. A number of Congressional Democrats are against the plan as The New York Times reports.
The New York Times: ''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of
Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''
The New York Times: "Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,''Mr. Watt said."
One again the Democrats are pushing back against proposals that may help avert another financial disaster. Let's hope that this time it gets through Congress. We certainly don't need another financial crisis on our hands.
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"They are actively promoting the decline of America." ~ Rush Limbaugh on liberals and Democrats
Hey Rush Fan...
March 2, 2009 - 08:44 ET by MrDebaterThe article is from sept. 11, 2003...not quite hot off the press. This article just shows that Pres. Bush tried to fix Fannie and Freddie in 2003...long before the crisis happened.
MrDebater
March 3, 2009 - 00:55 ET by Rush FanThanks for the reply.
I was attempting to be somewhat humorous, but I wasn't very effective at it. I came across this old article while searching Fannie and Freddie. It was the oldest article I have seen that clearly showed that President Bush way back in 2003 realized there was a problem and attempted to fix it, and as you indicated "long before the crisis."
I was also surprised that the article was from the New York Times, and that it appears to be fair and balanced (unusual for the far-left newspaper), in that it included the pushback from Barney Franks and other democrats.
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“The left -- you people, you Democrats -- you are creating a monster that you will not be able to control forever. You will ultimately regret what you are doing just like the media will ultimately regret its sacrifice of reason, its abandonment of its primary purpose.” ~ Rush Limbaugh
Anyone see this?
March 1, 2009 - 16:51 ET by general companyPennsylvania company reportedly finds highly sensitive info about president's helicopter at IP address in Iran.
Hmm
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
gc,
March 1, 2009 - 18:42 ET by R D HelmI caught that earlier today.
Perhaps Obama's Iranian "friends" were preparing a surprise for the messiah.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Anyone ever listen to Mike Church?
March 1, 2009 - 17:52 ET by general companyI heard this on the way home, just great.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Obammy Eligibility
March 1, 2009 - 19:33 ET by slickwillie2001The Obammy birthplace controversy has made it to the top of the AOL News webpage: http://news.aol.com/main/obama-presidency/article/the-birthers-obama-conspiracy-theory/363461
That's the article, news on the news home page that points to this article may change in a few hours. The article is written in a saracastic, conspiracy-debunking tone, but the shock is the poll being taken on whether 'you have any doubt about Obama's eligibility' etc., which shows 47% of the 235,000 respondents DO have doubts.
On a generally liberal website like AOL, that is really surprising. It may just have to disappear.
slick... Wow, that is
March 1, 2009 - 20:06 ET by bigtimerslick...
Wow, that is more than surprising!
glad to see that has not gone away,
March 1, 2009 - 20:12 ET by clinging to my guns and my religionbut i do not think we will know the truth in our lifetimes. it will be one of those files that gets locked away until fifty years later, then brought out and declassified. a real shame.....
When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
ctmg... Exactly right you
March 1, 2009 - 20:53 ET by bigtimerctmg...
Exactly right you are when it comes to DC and how they work.
One thing about it though...we have enough information to form our own opinions via the internet with what and who O is etc...
Thank God for the internet...or is that Gore I'm supposed to be grateful to... ;-)
doubt
March 2, 2009 - 03:45 ET by bknownstWhat doubt? Comrade 0 was born in Kenya. His Mother flew to Hawaii 8 days later to pretend he was born there. She was an American so he was born an American in Kenya. Later his mother gave up her American citizenship and by extension 0's citizenship while he was a young boy. He had until his 21st birthday to reclaim his citizenship and never did it. So last November we (they not me) elected our first African president of the United States, in violation of the U.S. constitution. End of story, now we live with the aftermath. Is it any wonder this man is so anti American?
EE IS
March 1, 2009 - 19:50 ET by Free StinkerPalin/Jindal 2012 !!
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Gore Effect Strikes Again!
March 1, 2009 - 20:39 ET by Roger the ShrubberWe can't write jokes funnier than this...
NASA's chief climate scientist is in hot water with colleagues and at least one lawmaker after calling on citizens to engage in civil disobedience at what is being billed as the largest public protest of global warming ever in the United States. (to be held in Washington DC)
The weather in DC Monday?
Issued by The National Weather Service
Baltimore/Washington, MD
7:48 pm EST, Sun., Mar. 1, 2009
... WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 PM EST MONDAY...
THE HIGHEST TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO RUN ALONG AND JUST TO THE EAST OF INTERSTATE 95... WHERE TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 7 TO 9 INCHES ARE EXPECTED. THIS INCLUDES WASHINGTON DC AND BALTIMORE
Barak Obama has..
March 2, 2009 - 08:32 ET by MrDebaterrepeatedly shown that he is the President of the Liberal States of America...He openly attacked Limbaugh(thereby conservatives), he wants to be "bipartisan" as long as Republicans are willing to just do what he wants. He is all about being the "Robin Hood" of the black community...I thought the President was for ALL Americans, not just SOME Americans, but it isn't looking that way...I never heard Bush attack talk radio or any other person by name...Obama is just another liberal who creates class envy and splits the country into various factions, believing in the divide and conquer theory of politics...he is not my president by his own admission.