Reuters is reporting: "An Iranian military commander called on Islamic countries to cut oil exports to Israel's supporters in response to the Jewish state's offensive in Gaza, the official IRNA news agency reported on Sunday."
Readers should recall that this is similar to what happened in late 1973 in response to the Yom Kippur War thereby causing our first energy crisis.
Is this possible today? With OPEC nations in financial trouble due to oil's collapse in price, can they afford not to sell to Israel's supporters? After all, unless Saudi Arabia participated in this embargo -- it did in 1973 -- America mightn't be that impacted.
With that in mind, is this something to be concerned with, or just more hot air coming from Iran?



















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January 4, 2009 - 15:21 ET by Cool ArrowI wonder if this is the crisis Joe Biden claims he knows about?
Not surprising it would be Iran that obliges Obama with his missile crisis.
Of course the Missile crisis was preceded by the Bay of Pigs.
Blowing smoke.................
January 4, 2009 - 15:21 ET by BEGRUNTIran can call for an embargo all they want.....OPEC is not the same orginazation it was in 1973........all of those countries are cash starved with the world economic situation. Not gonna happen.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
And most of our imported
January 4, 2009 - 21:34 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveAnd most of our imported oil comes from Canada and Central America anyway... so any embargo from the Mid-East would have limited effects. And like you said, how many of the OPEC nations can survive a restricted flow of cash?
This wouldn't even be a cause for real concern for us if we had more nuclear power plants online, more domestic drilling, and if we had more (and modern) domestic refineries.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon," 1942
THose of us who have lived
January 4, 2009 - 23:13 ET by BDTHose of us who have lived in OPEC countries realize just how addicted they are to the all mighty Dollar. I cannot imagine even the most rabid OPEC country being able to hold up their own economy by withholding their only exportable commodity.
Iran is a basket case that actually would suffer from a problem "Importing" motor fuel due to a lack of refinery capacity. If OPEC were to withhold the market, they would find it hard to back Irans motor fule without actual dollars flowing into Iran to back that move.
Saudi Arabia and the Emirates spend dollars like crazy and do not have much of a basis for economy other than oil dollars. So, if the dollars stop coming in so does the spare parts for such things as the desalinization plants that provide their water and other such necessary items.
Venezuela? They can withhold oil and lack cash, but the leadership is endangered to start with post the fiasco where Chavez made moves to put his regime in concrete last year. THe people will not withstand much more of an economic crisis in my opinion.
Canada? Mexico? THey will continue to pump. THey might be drawn off some to Japan but I still think they will find the US as their major customer.
Iran is allready in
January 4, 2009 - 15:23 ET by BlazerIran is allready in financial turmoil and inflation there is crippling. This is just hot air and chest thumping that will amount to nothing. The Arabs and Persians can't even agree to cut production to raise the price. In the current financial climate an embargo would be more devastating to them than us in the long run.
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That's the point, they can't
January 4, 2009 - 16:22 ET by dscottThat's the point, they can't agree up till now, Iran is desperate for money and they had Hamas stir up trouble to increase the price of oil, just like they did last time with Hezbollah a couple of years ago. It worked last time because the world's economies were going strong, this time around they aren't and so this strategy will be limited on the upside price of oil. Let us hope that the price won't rise above $60 that will topple both Chavez and Admedinajad from power and remove a thorn in our collective sides. That's if this is played properly, Oh that's right, Dems are in charge, NEVER MIND.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Either way...we should have
January 4, 2009 - 21:20 ET by bigtimerEither way...we should have been self-dependent within by now, I remember '73 well and beyond.
People as a whole never learn...until it is too late...all the while pointing fingers at somebody else.
Whatever happens, it is well deserved.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
The palestinian propaganda was still a child in 1973
January 4, 2009 - 15:39 ET by JWFThe world was still buying it. We have now had 32 years of Arab propaganda and the world is much more weary.
Even the rest of the Arab world is getting tired of it. I do not see another embargo.
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Well, Iran & the Dinner Jacket
January 4, 2009 - 15:43 ET by BlondeBluster alot.
I think we ought to shoot right back....how much can we charge them for refining their oil? They can pump it, but they can't refine it.
Furthermore, with the global dip in the economy, people are not consuming oil, not so much as a function of its price, but as a function of guns/butter.
So, they can cut their production further...they can try, actually. I doubt the OPEC countries will hang together on this, IIRC, some of them are in a deficit situation for the first time ever....they'll pump to cover that.
I also don't think we had a
January 4, 2009 - 16:09 ET by ThisnThatI also don't think we had a strategic oil reserve in 1973 to soften any impact.
But here's the question for Congress: Do we respond with opening up our oil fields for drilling, or do we roll over for the enviornmentalists? Come on GOP -- start hammering away at this.
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U.S. Petroleum Imports...
January 4, 2009 - 16:07 ET by trak65...come largely from Canada, Mexico and Venezuela, not the middle east. I'm not even sure which countries an embargo of Israel's other supporters (besides the U.S.) would be targeting.
→ Oil is fluid
January 4, 2009 - 16:14 ET by Cool ArrowOK, that's obvious. But I mean it's liquid like cash.
If The Mideast refuses to sell to us, we'll make up the deficit buying more from other sources.
Only thing that would hurt us is if the Mideast decides to cut production. Then the price rise hurts everybody.
But the lack of cash tot he
January 4, 2009 - 23:17 ET by BDBut the lack of cash tot he mideast will hurt them as well....
OPEC can only view clout based on unanimity of action by its members. If saudi Arabia cuts production - others might increase production in order to take advantage of price increases caused by the production cut.
OPEC of 2009 is not like OPEC of 1973. THey are in a more precarious position economically. Addiction to the dollar so it were.
U.S. Petroleum Imports - Country of Origin
January 5, 2009 - 09:45 ET by PopularTech- The largest supplier of oil to the U.S. is Canada (EIA)
- The second largest supplier of oil to the U.S. is Mexico (EIA)
Then it is...
Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and Nigeria
- Only 16% of U.S. oil imports come from the Middle East (EIA)
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Agree with the others.Check
January 4, 2009 - 16:14 ET by ZippyAgree with the others. Check this out, though. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008812310312
And I believe I read on NB that Iran gets 95% of it's gasoline from Saudi Arabia and France.
Iran calling for an embargo? Bring it!
January 4, 2009 - 20:06 ET by UnsaneIndeed, Iran is the #2 importer of gasoline in the world. So, the way I see it, if they do have an oil embargo, all the world needs to do in response is to embargo Iran's gasoline. Then we'll see who cries "uncle" first.
The United States gets 13-15% of its oil from the Middle East. Sure, such an event would impact oil prices in the short term. But (as indicated by mutual fund NAVs) the Middle East, especially the Gulf countries, are having their own asset-price bubble issues. Oh, I suppose if it were a year ago, this would be feasible. But not now.
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Maybe it is just time to let
January 4, 2009 - 16:20 ET by niner-four-whiskeyMaybe it is just time to let them have the final, decisive, all out total war in the middle east. Let it rip, no limits until a victor emerges.
Does Israel
January 4, 2009 - 16:32 ET by sccSusan
Does Israel have other supporters beside the U.S .?????????
Our enemies will use their oil to attempt to destroy us......
January 4, 2009 - 17:09 ET by wotsiznamewotsizname At its peak the Alaska oil pipeline carried over two million barrels per day. Now it's below seven hundred thousand and falling slowly. Why not move to the two lots to the East of Prudoe and bring it back? If our middle easterners (D.C. area) and the ones east of the Mediterranean get a good chance they will destroy us. National security and perhaps survival itself demands we become self sufficient of our enemies. The poor polar bears? They're already moving inland more and more, and apparently interbreeding with grizzlys again. Drill, Baby, Drill!
wot.. I'm with
January 4, 2009 - 21:22 ET by bigtimerwot..
I'm with you...
Drill Often! Drill Everywhere!
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Go ahead let them. It
January 4, 2009 - 17:24 ET by midnight cowboyGo ahead let them. It backfired in 73 and it will backfire worse now. With oil demand dramaticly dropping in 08, an arab embargo might temporarily spike prices, but that will only make demand drop even further for their Persian Perrier, making it as valuable as camel piss. It may even put the final nail in OPEC's domination as a world energy supplier.
Is Iran even important
January 4, 2009 - 17:56 ET by AJIs Iran even important anymore? All Iranian leaders do is stand behind podiums and point their fingers in the air.
Iran has done nothing significant enough. They relent, too, because should they shrug their collective shoulder in the wrong direction, their country turns into a very big crater.
What Embargo?
January 4, 2009 - 18:22 ET by pbthinkerMy understanding, of the 1973 oil embargo is, it was the embargo that never was. We had threats of embargoes, we had people say there was an embargo, so our government took pre-emptive action by going to odd-even rationing, etc., which caused a demand crunch. There were people, because of odd-even rationing, waiting in line to get gas, because it was their day, that finally made it to the pumps and put in 2 gallons of gas. Gas stations could go all day and not empty their tanks. This meant that the tankers that fill those tanks didn't have to get fuel, because the stations weren't really selling as much, so the storage tanks remained full. This lead to tankers, going around in circles off our shores, waiting to off-load their fuel. In short, the perception of the embargo of 1973, was caused by government action and not anything the arabs did.
I was in the fuel industry at the time and that was how this was presented to me. If anyone KNOWS anything different, feel free to put me in my place.
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PB.....I can tell you first hand....
January 4, 2009 - 19:06 ET by BEGRUNTWhen I was in Highschool, and college during this period, I was the manager of a Union 76 out here in So-Cal.......our Tanks were NEVER empty, nor did we have any trouble getting additional gas...........
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
I remember the same
January 4, 2009 - 19:14 ET by Free StinkerI remember the same stupidity in 1979.
West Coast had odd-even rationing and long lines. New Jeresy had no lines *until* our jxckxss Governor Byrne started odd-even rationing.
&%$#@!
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Hah! We don't need no
January 4, 2009 - 18:25 ET by MidAmericaHah! We don't need no stinkin' oil. We've got windmills and corn.....
This is Iran trying to be important
January 4, 2009 - 18:33 ET by c5thenI really don't expect the rest of OPEC to listen to them or take them seriously. Most of the oil producers got addicted to $140 oil and now that we are hovering around $40 they are hurting economically.
I can see Hugo Chavez thinking this is a good idea. At least for a short while.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
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Venezuela
January 4, 2009 - 20:13 ET by UnsaneIn the case of Venezuela, I wonder who's got who by the balls.
See, Venezuela exports a heavy, sour crude that is such a PITA to work with, that there are only certain refineries that can refine it. Those refineries are located in two regions: the Carribbean, and the southern United States.
Not to mention that Venezuela's oil fields require tone of TLC in order to remain productive. The PDVSA used to be VERY good about this and was considered to be one of the world's best state-run oil firms for awhile. Then Hugo Chavez came along and screwed it all up. This including the oil fields that require the TLC. But that's what happens when you replace competent managers and effective employees with political hacks for patronage purposes.
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! A WAR ON FREEWILL IS COMING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
Israel has a simple reply
January 4, 2009 - 19:27 ET by Jack BauerIsrael has a simple reply to Iran.
Organize an "oil embargo" against the west, fools, and we'll organize the taking out of Iran's only OIL REFINERY.
See how ya like thems apples.
Jack... Bulls-Eye...Right
January 4, 2009 - 21:25 ET by bigtimerJack...
Bulls-Eye...Right on target!
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bt - well it does have a
January 5, 2009 - 05:18 ET by Jack Bauerbt - well it does have a huge bulls eye on it.
Sounds like a great time to
January 4, 2009 - 20:50 ET by robert108Sounds like a great time to develop our own oil resources.
Uh-Oh, this just means a
January 4, 2009 - 20:54 ET by ConservativeRexUh-Oh, this just means a ton of overtime for me! Just when I was set to coast to retirement.
This is getting old hat. Nothing will come of it.
Free up Israel, let them start using the billions of dollars of weapons they got from us. Level Persia, honestly, who among us is going to miss it?
Go ahead, Iran, make my day
January 4, 2009 - 21:28 ET by jefflebowskiIran is nothing more than a bunch of coward girly men who talk a lot of trash until the fighting begins. Look at Hamas hiding behind women in Gaza. Nothing but talk!
I have always believed that a bushel of wheat should be directly tied to a barrel of oil. Since they can't grow wheat in the desert it would keep both sides honest. Other than that, we should drill our own energy and to hell with the middle east.
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AWD... Amen. "America
January 4, 2009 - 21:34 ET by bigtimerAWD...
Amen.
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Iran... An open letter to
January 4, 2009 - 21:36 ET by Clear thinkerIran...
An open letter to Iran.
To the Iranian people. This would be the perfect time for you and your countrymen to become a free people. You and I know that your leadership is failing you, and we also know that more than likely, Iran will push someone to a Nuclear War, which of course means the annihilation of your country and all it's citizens. It's time to show your leaders the door!
And for those that think an Oil embargo will work.... ain't gonna happen. The other OPEC nations like money as much as we do, and they hate the Iranian leadership as much as we do. While your leaders are trying to look strong may be the perfect time to take them out of power, but there is only one group of people that can do it.... THE CITIZENS OF IRAN.
God bless and good luck!
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I say bring it on
January 4, 2009 - 22:47 ET by LCT688Let then try their embargo. Sure it will be bad for oil prices in the short run but will be even more destructive to their economies, including the Russians. As an added bonus it will make far more difficult for the dumbacrats in Congress to reimpose the drilling ban.
"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one."
Alexander Hamilton
not bloody likely
January 4, 2009 - 22:49 ET by crosspatchOPEC aside from Venezuela isn't going to listen to Iran. 1973 had Saudi Arabia leading the boycott. 2009 is different. Iran isn't likely to get much following. Besides, Iraq's oil production capacity will be ramping up over the next few years so anything Iran witholds from the market can be made up by Iraq.
Iran is just spouting words. If there ever was a paper tiger on this planet, it is Iran.
Surprised, no comments on the soon to be nuclear Iran.
January 4, 2009 - 22:50 ET by Parker1227Nukes will give the Iranian fascist regime carte blanche in their Jihad against Israel, and the West. Not that they would use their nukes immediately. But with a nuclear deterrent they will be able to more boldly support Jihadist terrorism around the world - without fear of getting thwacked.
This is as serious as if Hitler had gotten "the bomb" in WWII.
I fear we will have to learn, yet again, the steep price of falling for a peace-at-any-cost philosophy.
If Iran does lead an oil embargo, then that would be the perfect time to strike.
With the Strait pretty much out of use - their threat of shutting it down would be meaningless.
No mention: Hamas' breaking the ceasefire with Iranian rockets
January 4, 2009 - 23:12 ET by Parker1227In the Reuters article its almost as if Israel just woke up one day and decided it would be fun to attack the Palestinians.
No mention of Hamas breaking the ceasefire by shooting dozens of Iranian missiles at Israeli cities.
This was the Hamas answer to "land for peace." Israel hands over Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005, and the Palestinians thank them by running up to their new border and trying to kill as many Jews as possible - with Iranian rockets.
price per gallon up by 20c
January 5, 2009 - 01:29 ET by RousseAt my local service station, the price for a gallon of gas is up by 20c. But the BP refinery in Texas City is finally at full production since Hurricane Ike. However, just TALKING about gas prices will make them go up.
Iran should just mind it's own beeswax
January 5, 2009 - 08:29 ET by SickofLibsI can say this because one of the brilliant panelists on MTP Sunday made the statement that Israel is in a "civil war" with the Palestinians.
So it's internal matter.