Big trouble with all these companies with their hands out. Yes, we are on the slippery slope to socialism, with about 40% of America already getting some sort of handout. Cradle to grave, if the dems have their way.

Aside from that, I think Obama is so needy for attention he will be giving press conferences about once a week until his gala inauguration is over. How much will that cost?

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I believe that the free market rewards success and rids itself of failure.

I cannot think of any industry more deserving of being put out of its misery than The Big Three in Detroit. They never changed from the warning of the 1970's and continued to ignore any future trends and innovation.

So once again the SUV/BigTruck crazy companies are in trouble because they were left without a formidable hybrid or fleet of cars that Americans preferred.

I would not like to see a government bailout. If the government is required once again to help these companies I would much prefer the government to know what exactly a loan will do and what the short term revamping plans are by each company. If none exist then for the sake of the workers and communities the government should engage the foreign auto companies for a buyout and give them incentives that you know will pay off.

What the Big Three want is called throwing good money after bad money.

Can you imagine a government bailout for the failing horse and buggy industry in the early 1900's?  US auto companies made bad decisions with cars and unions.  If they go under, foreign companies will expand here providing jobs and making less bad management decisions.

NS...you'd know more about this than I....but isn't California on the verge of asking for a Federal Bailout for it's (IIRC) $7 Billion dollar debt?  And didn't Californians just pass a referendum to purchase a $10 Billion dollar Bullet train?

I'm reading that NYC is planning to tax plastic bags and charge a toll on every inbound bridge....Philadelphia is going broke.

So we know where the next round of "gimmes" is going to come from.

As for the auto industry, I think the time for a tax revolt is when the government bails them out in order to fund the greedy pension plans of a bunch of teamster thugs.  Or maybe that's just me.

Odinga has high expectations for detaining Corsi

I'm not a big reader of political books, but I'm thinking I may go buy Corsi's and that other one about Obama before they become illegal.   They may be worth something some day ; )

     The financial crisis has taken the number one spot over the last couple months,  it has put a stiff arm on everything. Why...why.....haven't the real people responsible for setting up this collapse been acknowledged, relieved of any responsibilities of legislation or power, untill any investigations, hearings, legal action of any kind are held, and the public is notified of the results. I have seen evidence who at least some of these perpatrators are, and they are still in power big time with no indication to me anything is going to be done. Irregardless of whether the problem is solved, or not, you just can't keep the bad guys in power. They can put a guy in Philly in cuffs and off to jail, for wearing a McCain t-shirt, but they can't address real serious crime? Things are so wacked out right now......people that I talk to are all feeling like they are looking into some big unknown. Tuff times are one thing to face up to, but leaving these political weasels in power, that's another.

 Let's don't forget that at one time NYC was bailed out by the government.  I believe a fella named Lindsey was mayor.

I may be wrong it's been a while ago.  I was about 20 then and I am not sure how it was structured, but I swear they bailed NYC out.

Anyone remember anything about that?

 It seems that there are more financial bailouts on the way. The auto industry and even many states are seeking federal assistance.

I believe that the sooner the government allows failing businesses to fail, the sooner that prudent and profitable businesses will take their place. These continued bailouts do nothing but reward failure and punish success, by giving an unfair advantage to those who should be allowed to fail.

Also, the federal government itself does not have the funds to finance these massive bailouts. The only way that they can pay for them is through borrowing the money, partly from foreigners, or printing more money which will dilute our currencies value and cause inflation.

The problem with borrowing this money, is that eventually, the government will be unable to service it's debt, because of lower tax receipts, due to a dwindling economy.

Printing more money causes inflation, which is an across the board tax that affects everyone. It is not a progressive tax that hits the "rich" hardest, the way the liberals like to have it.

Either way, when the "crap hits the fan", and it will, there will be no-one around for the ultimate bailout, the bailout out of the federal government. By protecting failing businesses and industries, the government is insuring it's own financial failure. The road of massive federal bailouts is very dangerous, because it can only lead to the inevitable default of the US federal government. The political and economic consequences are frightening, yet unavoidable, unless we stop bailing out failing industries and allowing success to rise from the vacuum that past failures have provided.

  people, there is nothing we can do. He has been elected by people who have been seduced because enough of them felt let down by the republican party that they thought it would be cute to protest vote this time.

  Even I swore off any party allegiance the day President Bush referred to the minute men as vigilanties. Then proceded to call for amnesty under the guise of comprehensive immigration reform. I live in central texas, my house was built by non-english speaking mexicans who were not picking lettuce. they were building all the homes on the street. Just another form of slavery but hey I'll get off my soap box now.  

• "WHAT GOOD FORTUNE FOR GOVERNMENTS THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK"-- A. Hitler

It is not Ford or Chevy, i'm worried about, but it will cripple the state of Michigan.

Not only will it effect the current jobs, but it will effect hundreds of thousands of retirees pensions and medical plans.

He had my vote

RINO PURGE CHAT

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

And now for some sound words from Zo:

http://zo.black-and-...  top video called Aftermath. For those non religious types skip to 2:35 and start there. 

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

Obama mentioned

Lets hope justice prevails before the even worse Obama courts get involved. 

ANY money given to the Big 3 at this point in time is just going to go in their mouths and out their rears.  I have been in the automotive industry for almost 20 years now and can tell you that only the U.S. government is better at pissing away money and lining the pockets of a select few than is the Big 3.  

Back in the early '90's there was all kinds of talk of how to take on the Japanese transplants, recapture share and improve quality.  The upper management of all three corporations should be exposed for the lack of fortitude needed to see these things through!  They have ignorantly chased their tails (SUV's and minivans) for the last 15 years without really addressing the long term needs of their organizations.  Had they kicked the s**t out of the unions over the past two decades they would be in a much better position right now...perhaps one similar to Toyota or Honda. 

The first thing that should be stipulated regarding any sort of loans to the Big 3 would be an executive pay scale that is tied to results!  For too long these organizations have paid their upper tiers far too well for what has been accomplished.  Finally, as radical as it sounds, DO NOT re-tool plants in traditionally union areas.  Multiple generations who have known only unions and their largess cannot be trusted to cooperate long term with the Big 3 companies in holding down labor and benefit costs.  If you think that breaking the mind set of welfare recipients is hard you should try taking a crumb away from a automotive union member. 

I once worked for a company who had to close down a plant for two years because they could not be profitable with their existing union wage structure.  The average wage outside of that plant in the surrounding community was a dollar or two over minimum wage.  When the plant was reopened the workers were forced to take a $2/hour pay reduction. They were now making on average more than TWICE the local hourly pay rate.  It took less than 6 months for them to begin to rebel about their pay and take traditional union action against the company.  

There is a willing and eager work force south of the Mason-Dixon Line that has gradually been coming up to speed in automotive manufacturing related companies who do not feel the need to dig their heels in constantly to extort more money and benefits from their employers.  Set up the Big 3 plants there!

I have so many friends hurting right now in this industry, but throwing away our good money at companies that have very little history of self-restraint and prudent management is just that...throwing it away!

I think that this current 'negativity' meme that a few folks have 'mentioned' on certain Conservative sites is getting tired. Here's my opinion (which is, at this time, still protected by the First Amendment):

Hussein is not MY president. He has taken over the position through highly questionable (although you'd better not actually question him) or possibly illegal tactics. The infiltration and actions of the news and entertainment medias were a huge part of Hussein bypassing the usual vetting process (anyone find anyone who knew him at Columbia - yet?) and their campaign for Hussein was lop-sided and worth billions. Certainly not a 'Fairness' most people can live with.

For me to give this poseur the 'benefit of the doubt' (huge amounts of doubt) and to support him would be not unlike the Germans supporting some other leader who took power under questionable circumstances. I am not that stupid. Consider - We are up against a press where 'journalists' can claim that it is their 'job' to make sure Hussein has a successful presidency (and hardly anyone in the press thinks that that is strange behavior – at least it isn’t the huge story it would be were the candidates reversed.) That's, of course, after 8 years of doing everything in their power to thwart whatever President Bush did - regardless that it threatened our country or our service men and women's lives and security. For me to be complicit with a group of rabid Anti-Americans is abhorrent, so don't tell me I'm being negative for pointing all of this out.

Ah, the Republican Party debacle. Big tent go boom, eh? I've voted Dem., Rep., and Independent in my life - for the person, not the party. I don't care what the party does, it all matters what person is running. I hated McCain yet was convinced that he was the much better choice over Hussein or Hillary. I backed him with nary (OK, twice) a complaint. When he chose Sarah Palin as VP my decision to vote McCain was a no brainer. Now, the election is over and, as far as I'm concerned, McCain can retire to one of his houses. He has been more of a hindrance to the Republican party than a help. The 'reaching across the aisle' BS is just that - most times. I am more of a Conservative at this point of my life and I want a Sarah Palin to represent me. Is that negative? I think not.

What are we going to do about the takeover of our country by Socialists, Marxists, and Communists? I, for one, will not help them in any way. I will fight and resist them at every opportunity. I will give them, and the Great Hussein, the respect they gave George W. Bush (which is absolutely none). I will point out, with great glee, each and every mistake and flaw of the Great Hussein. I am not a Christian so I don't have to throw myself to the lions.

Optimistic? I will be very optimistic that Hussein will fail miserably. I will facilitate this in any way that I can because that is what the Left would have done with McCain/Palin if they had won. And, you know what? I don't care one whit what anyone thinks about that. And, oddly enough, the people that fear that this type of action would harm our country are the ones that seem to think that a Hussein presidency couldn't possibly ruin our country. For goodness sake, people, pick one philosophy - you can't have both. I have realized who our enemies are and to what lengths they have gone to make their takeover the success that it is. Time to take off the gloves, doncha think?

Conservatives fight evil.  Liberals fight Global Warming.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and talk about myself and who I am.

I am 48 years old, am married to a wonderful woman. I have 4 kids that I am very proud of. My oldest is in th Navy and will be serving in Irag this month in an IS service to the Navy. My second son is serving in A'ganistan as a weapons specialist. My daughter is in her second year at the University of Mobile in AL. She is a very God Loving, Christian young lady. Very conservative! My youngest boy is a senior in high school has just received a scholership to Troy University.  I have great kids and am proud of them all! I tell you all this so you know who I am. I just want all of you to know who I am. I love NB and those who speak here, I apprecieate it greately. You guys, and gals, rock! Big time! I just want to let you all know that I trust you enough that I can let you all know about me. Thanks for the great site and the great people that post here. NB is great, thank you!

"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"

America was a socialist democracy. America has entered fascism which is government ownership of private business. America with Obama is entering Marxism or communal ownership of all working for the good of society, communism.

Ford would not be in this trouble along with GM and whatever else if they had not been implementing womb to the tomb Teddy Kennedy socialism.
Ford's problem #2 is they built crappy vehicles and then decided to be sodomite sedan in promoting the homosexual agenda.

Ford and GM could fix their problems if they would produce the 6 cylinder 50 mpg light pickups and cars they should have instead of producing gas hogs to fund the world oil companies off of American consumers.

I would not give any of these communist fronts a dime. Let the Ford Foundation and all these red based globalist propaganda groups come up with the cash or let Obama have his counterfeit buddies in the Middle East print up a few hundred billion more to lend the auto industry.

None of you get this yet they are running up the tab deliberately FOR A REASON. Think on that one for a while.
I will post my blog here Lord willing when the sun shines again and for those who are not impressed as of late I will let the Holy Spirit know so He can try better to please the critics.

Everyone can't be mahdi Obama, not even God measuring up it seems in inspiring people.

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Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?

So, why does the NYTimes feel compelled to report this?

http://www.iht.com/a...

Is this another case similar to their reporting of military "black sites" in foreign countries, used to hold terrorists?  I swear the NYTimes makes my head explode.

As I read it and discover how delicate and classified it is, it nearly takes my breath to know that there are actions that can only be approved by the president, and that the president to be is the Obama.

God help us.

We are about to bail out NOT the auto industry, but the UAW/BIG THREE. Not only is the taxpaer's money going down the drain, but I wonder how the many employee's who work for all the other auto companies in the USA feel about paying for the UAW's retirement fund. I must repeat, it's NOT the auto industry, it's the UAW/BIG THREE! Bush better have his veto pen sharp!