For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: The Obama Temptation.
I sense what's occurring in this election is a recklessness and abandonment of rationality that has preceded the voluntary surrender of liberty and security in other places. I can't help but observe that even some conservatives are caught in the moment as their attempts at explaining their support for Barack Obama are unpersuasive and even illogical...There is a cult-like atmosphere around Barack Obama, which his campaign has carefully and successfully fabricated, which concerns me. The messiah complex. Fainting audience members at rallies. Special Obama flags and an Obama presidential seal. A graphic with the portrayal of the globe and Obama's name on it, which adorns everything from Obama's plane to his street literature. Young school children singing songs praising Obama. Teenagers wearing camouflage outfits and marching in military order chanting Obama's name and the professions he is going to open to them. An Obama world tour, culminating in a speech in Berlin where Obama proclaims we are all citizens of the world. I dare say, this is ominous stuff.
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It Can Happen Here!!!
October 26, 2008 - 09:16 ET by allanfI think Levin has nailed it. There is a suspension of belief which surrounds Obama that is dangerous. So we have a candiate
Expect the Democrats to shut down talk radio in short order. It can happen here.
allanf
October 26, 2008 - 09:20 ET by5. Has next to no actual accomplishments or experience
6. Has verified ties to questionable persons and organizations
7. Has not even yet be properly vetted
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
All correct but . . .
October 26, 2008 - 09:40 ET by Gat New York. . . none of this would have been possible without the complicity of the mainstream media. People see only what is presented to them in the way it is presented.
All the major and cable networks (except Fox) as well as 90% of major dailies have been complicit in providing Obama with a reliable stream propaganda consistent with the narrative the Obama camoaign has provided. That has never happened like this before.
Add to that the unprecedented money to support this effort and this has the feeling of Big Brother in "1984."
Behind all this I believe is one man: George Soros. Look at the political organizations, the advisors, and even the market crash a few weeks ago and you will find Soros.
Tell me a bit more about
October 26, 2008 - 11:38 ET by GrannyGrump42Tell me a bit more about Soros.
The person I see pulling the strings is Bill Ayers:
http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/
I thought only I was wearing a tinfoil hat
October 26, 2008 - 12:51 ET by ahusserI felt that the financial panic of 2 weeks ago was suspect. McCain/Palin are top of the polls. After the panic points down. Although it is the "crash" season (Sept/Oct) and the market had been weak. Many things came together at a precise time to become a fortuitous event for Obama and bad luck for McCain. It only takes the shorting of 1 stock to start a panic. I believe that stock was Lehman Bros (the ex-CEO of Lehman Bros was an Obama advisor). Soros (the Socialist Billionaire) made his chops shorting the British Pound in the 80's and became a billionare. He certainly has the money, the means, the motivation and ability to orchestrate a panic he could probably do this through numerous offshore and foreign hedge funds. Not only the stock market came into play but a major rallying point for Republican's was high gas prices, releasing oil reserves and drilling, especially in the ANWR. Isn't it very timely (for Obama) and uncanny that fuel prices have dropped 35 percent in the last few weeks leading up to the election. I submit that there are some oil rich countries that would like to see Obama as Prez. Venezuela, Iran, Russia and the rest of OPEC come immediately to mind although they each may have different reasons. That rally is dead. The Republican's have been made the fools through a very carefully, well financed (Hmm!) orchestrated, and dare I say it, strategically brilliant campaign on Obama's part. This will be a watershed for the Republic.
Actually
October 26, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Josh SNFalling gas prices are good for the incumbent party.
Not in this instance since
October 26, 2008 - 13:36 ET by ahusserNot in this instance since drilling was a major Republican battle cry which is now mute and moot.
Soros
October 26, 2008 - 17:44 ET by Gat New YorkThis was posted by Ed Lasky last week on American Thinker on the market crash and Soros:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/hedge_funds_politics_and_the_m.html
Thanks Gat for the link
October 26, 2008 - 18:34 ET by ahusserI thought something was funny about the timing of these events and I feel vindicated that I am not the only paranoid LOL out there. But these manipulations are certainly possible that is how Soros became a billionaire in the first place. Poor naive little Josh (above) been jerking his knees on several blogs now. I need an article now about the sudden drop in oil/gasoline prices. Seems just as coincidental. Obama's campaign is a masterpiece of strategy, prevarication, deceit, and the Dems are swallowing it whole, hook line and sinker.
"...no civilization, no matter how rich, no matter how refined, can long survive once it loses the power to meet force with equal or superior force." - Bernard Knox
OIl Prices
October 26, 2008 - 20:21 ET by Gat New YorkActually the problem with oil prices is that they were overinflated and did not match up to actual demand when they were very high. Much of it could be credited to speculation and once again we have Soros. The high oil prices initally set off an economic problem here before the credit meltdown.
Soros picked Obama out of the lineup and has placed all of his resources and connections behind him. The foreign policy advisors are all Soros people.
...which by the way Obama
October 26, 2008 - 09:42 ET by msh1973...which by the way Obama has yet to appear on Hannity's show or Fox for that matter, why do you suppose that is? (tongue in cheek)
Not exactly correct...
October 26, 2008 - 11:09 ET by Secret ConservativeObama did appear on FOX, on O'Reilly's show - but only after significant negotiations and concessions by O'Reilly about what would be asked and how. Obama got a somewhat puffball treatment from self-avowed pitbull O'Reilly, and it will take a long time - if ever - before I watch his show again, no matter how many times he beats up Barney Frank.
msh1973:
October 27, 2008 - 10:58 ET by j. frank wilsonWhy would Sen. Obama waste his time on Sheer Insannity's show? Insannity is an opinionated pundit - not a journalist. He campaigned for the Republicans in 2004. Who would want to appear on that show? So Insannity can yell and cut them off? What fun...
Also, an undeniable secrecy
October 26, 2008 - 09:44 ET by sherylsimsAlso, an undeniable secrecy about pertinent aspects of his past (birthplace, college records, medical records) pretty much everything about him is a secret. And now we find out we have no right to demand such records.
yes sheryl it's very Ozwellian
October 26, 2008 - 10:02 ET bypay no attention to the man behind the curtain
(and Orwellian too!)
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Check this out...
October 26, 2008 - 10:04 ET by sherylsimshttp://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79086
Birthplace
October 26, 2008 - 10:14 ET by allanfA Federal Judge has tossed Philip Berg's lawsuit demanding Obama produce a birth certificate due to lack of standing to litigate.
Apparently, on a Secretary of State, Supervisor of Elections or possibly an elector might have standing.
Gosh
October 26, 2008 - 10:49 ET by Josh SNHe put his birth certificate online months ago
FactCheck.org covered this issue a while ago
Why is Obama afraid to let it be examined by an expert?
October 26, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Dee BunkIt makes no sense. Factcheck is owned by an Obama supporter. He hasn't let any neutral expert look at it. It's very strange. He's very secretive.
Sen. Obama would be proud of Propaganda Boy.
October 26, 2008 - 11:01 ET by JWFSen. Obama failed to supply his Birth Cerficate in the one place you cannot lie, a U.S. Court.
In fact, he fought with his very being NOT to produce a birth certificate in a U.S Court.
Keep lapping up that yummy propaganda.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
He put "A" birth certificate online.
October 26, 2008 - 11:05 ET by BKeyserCheck out America Right for a detailed explanation on this, particularly the picture showing the "birth certificate" that FactCheck claims is legitimate and another Hawaii cert from two years later, that doesn't even resemble the Obama one. I don't know what is factual here but the Obama cert looks like a modern example, the other one looks more like what you'd see from the period. And if there is no controvercy, then why not definitively clear it up? There are many "little" things about this guy that just seem to be cloaked in secrecy. Why?
Are you denying who is mother is?
October 26, 2008 - 11:26 ET by Josh SNI mean, let's say his Mom was on the Moon when he was born, on vacation, he'd still be an American citizen. Children born when their parents aren't in America are not denied citizenship.
Obama didn't prevent the issue from going to court, the Judge did. Most Federal Judges are appointees by Republican Presidents. I don't know, maybe Obama secretly appointed this Judge in a kickback scheme from the future!
After all, he was born on the Moon.
Birth Certificate
October 26, 2008 - 12:12 ET by allanfObama's purported birth certificate lacks a seal. Hawaii does not send out certificates without a seal, so it fails the smell test.
Obama has a simple way of erasing all doubts. He has chosen to to follow that path.
race?
October 26, 2008 - 13:52 ET by DragonsbreathSince when is African a race?
When you can't ask a question to your leaders anymore, that gets scary. That bothers me."
Samuel "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher
While his mother was a
October 26, 2008 - 12:27 ET by sherylsimsWhile his mother was a citizen, she needed to be a citizen for 10 years, five of which had to be after the age of 14. Since she had him when she was 18 she did not meet the 5 year requirement. Also, it is a Constitutional requirement for the presidency that he be a natural born citizen which means that while he MAY be a citizen, he also may not be a natural born one, which is why people would like to see the BC. Another factor is that if he were adopted by his stepfather when he was taken to another country and given citizenship there, he would have had to come back through immigration when he returned (which he didn't). All of this should have been cleared up before he even began running for president. It is amazing that he got this far without proper paperwork.
Obama was a Kenyan Citizen Until 1982
October 26, 2008 - 12:44 ET by allanfEven Factcheck.org admits Obama was a Kenyan citzenship.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
She was born and raised in America.
October 26, 2008 - 13:13 ET by Josh SNYou are seriously saying that babies born to 18 year old American mothers aren't American? She was born in Kansas.
American Mothers
October 26, 2008 - 15:30 ET by allanfFederal law does not automatically make you a citizen of the United States if only one parent is a US citizen and you are born abroad. Rumors persist that Obama was acutally born in Kenya.
At the time Obama was born the statute required the American parent to have lived in the United States 5 years after the age of fourteen. Obama's mother was 18 at the time of his birth.
The fear is that Obama was born in Kenya and then his mother travelled with Hawaii and recorded his birth. While the recordation may be enough to afford him citizenship, birth to a single American parent casts doubts about the constitution requiement that he be a "natural born" citizen.
Add this qualification:
October 27, 2008 - 01:17 ET by NL207Add this qualification: "federal law at the time of Obama's birth" and you've got the birth part of it right.
The citizenship laws have been changed since Obama was born, but that is no matter because his case is governed by the law that was in force at that time.
American Mothers
October 26, 2008 - 15:30 ET by allanfFederal law does not automatically make you a citizen of the United States if only one parent is a US citizen and you are born abroad. Rumors persist that Obama was acutally born in Kenya.
At the time Obama was born the statute required the American parent to have lived in the United States 5 years after the age of fourteen. Obama's mother was 18 at the time of his birth.
The fear is that Obama was born in Kenya and then his mother travelled with Hawaii and recorded his birth. While the recordation may be enough to afford him citizenship, birth to a single American parent casts doubts about the constitution requiement that he be a "natural born" citizen.
BKeyser:
October 27, 2008 - 11:00 ET by j. frank wilsonSen. Obama's birth certificate looks modern because it is. The State of Hawaii produces such a document at the request of the family. It's not a photocopy of the long-form birth record - it's a computer generated document showing the information they have on file.
And here's a little news flash - from time to time the State changes the form they use! Who knew?
They also keep the original...
October 27, 2008 - 11:07 ET by MightyMouthSo why not provide a valid copy of the original? They keep them on microfiche if not in an actual file cabinet. I think people want to see the actual document, not one I can create in photoshop.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
While you are shoveling
October 27, 2008 - 13:29 ET by Ruths husband BenWhile you are shoveling this, you might as well explain to us simple rubes why Obama hasn't released his college information, his medical records and all the other documentation he refuses to release (like his true association with Ayers, his activities while in NY, etc.). Oh, and don't get any on your shoes or you will spend all the time between here and the election scraping it off.
That document is not his
October 27, 2008 - 01:29 ET by NL207That document is not his birth certificate. It is not even a facsimile of his birth certificate. Do you see a raised seal anywhere on it? Do you see the orginal signature of the recorder on it? Did you notice that its certificate number, presumably a copy of the sequence number originally assigned, is blacked out?
A legitimate vault copy of a birth certificate in the US has a raised seal from the recording authority and is signed by the recording officer who entered the record. The certificate number will give a clue as to when the birth was registered with the recording agency by a quick examination of the dates of teh adjacent certificates. My guess is this copy is blacked out because it has a date significantly different than the date of birth, which would be the case if Stanley Ann Obama returned to Hawaii sometime after the birth to record it there.
The most disturbing things I have heard about this are: the report that there is a British Crown Colonial Birth Certificate for Obama on file in Mombasa, Kenya; there are witnesses still living there who witnessed his birth in Mombasa, including his elder half-sister and paternal grandmother; there are no witnesses still living in Hawaii who report witnessing his birth there. If these things are true, then --> Obama was born in Mombasa and he is not even a citizen, much less qualified to be President.
NL207:
October 27, 2008 - 11:12 ET by j. frank wilsonFor a self-described expert you don't know much about this, do you?
If you want to see the raised seal you have to turn the certificate over. Hawaii (and other states) put it on the back. The Registrar doesn't hand-sign each copy - he uses a stamp. Go figure! Did you think the US Secretary of the Treasury stays up all night signing one dollar bills?
The Obama campaign blacked out the certificate number before they put the document up on the website because they didn't know what it was for. There are prints of the number easily available on the web. It makes fascinating reading.
What in the world is a "vault copy?" Sounds safe.
And what about the Hawaii newspaper item announcing Sen. Obama's birth? Was that planted all those years ago because his parents knew some day he'd be President of these United States?
By all means - spend more time on this issue. Spend all your time on this issue. Tell Sen. McCain to suspend his television commercials (if there is any money left after Gov. Palin's clothing allowence) and pay lawyers to fight this in court! Go for it! As Lame Cherry said, this is Cold Harbor! To the ramparts! To the barricades - Pat, grab your pitchfork! They're on the walls...
Raised seal. Three
October 27, 2008 - 13:15 ET by NL207Raised seal. Three dimensional. It's pressed into the paper. --> It's visible from both sides. Our local jurisdiction issues unofficial copies like Hawaii and the other 48 do without the seal similar to this one shown on factcheck. The real ones have the signature on the face, whether stamped or otherwise and the embossed seal pressed into the paper. The image on factcheck.org has neither of these features. That means it's unofficial. The fact that it is an unofficial copy means no legal inference of Obama's birth can be made from it. This 'document' isn't even acceptable proof for a passport application nowadays but you want to claim it qualifies Obama to be POTUS.
A birth announcement for Obama in the Honolulu paper? Surely you must have a link to this. In any event, such announcements are common in papers published in areas where the parents have associations but are not necessarily present. Both the elder Obama and Stanley Dunham had been students there.
If Obama's documents are the slam-dunk you say they are, why does he not just produce them for the US District Court of Eaqstern PA and get the Berg suit dismissed? Instead he is refusing to produce and is litigating to get Berg's Show Cause Motion to produce dismissed. Those are the actions of a guilty man.
Wilson, you please me when you come around here. The floors do need mopping once in a while, and for that purpose you serve well.
NL207:
October 31, 2008 - 17:05 ET by j. frank wilsonIt's just too easy: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
It's all there.
Speaking of the floors - you missed a large spot in the middle. Right where you are huddled...
Anybody watch "Doctor Who"?
October 26, 2008 - 11:40 ET by GrannyGrump42Anybody watch "Doctor Who"? Anybody recognize the name Harold Saxon?
This whole thing is like something out of a campy sci-fi show. And THAT is scary.
Demand Records?
October 26, 2008 - 15:22 ET by jeffroJust like you have no right to the records of our current VP's energy policy meetings and E-mails.
jeffro:
October 27, 2008 - 11:14 ET by j. frank wilsonPrecisely! Because the office of the Vice President is part of the Legistative, not the Executive, Branch of the Federal Government.
Ms. Ifill asked Gov. Palin about that during the debate. And received a rather muddled answer.
"Because the office of the
October 31, 2008 - 17:17 ET by MightyMouth"Because the office of the Vice President is part of the Legistative, not the Executive, Branch of the Federal Government"
That's debatable. But in practical terms it's never really been played that way, the veep has always had a hand in executive decisions.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MIghtyMouth:
October 31, 2008 - 17:34 ET by j. frank wilsonI was making fun of VP Cheney's position - and I venture to guess so was jeffco.
Levin is dead on
October 26, 2008 - 09:15 ET by motherbeltLevin is dead on target.
Like Levin, I have long had misgivings about this cultish phenomenon. I've said here that I had frightening flashbacks to Jim Jones. Scary.
Only one point I would disagree with Levin on. He said
It's as if the media use the Obama campaign's talking points
No "as if." They ARE using the talking points.Whether they are actually handed them or not, they hear them, and of their own volition they assimilate them, and propagate them as facts.
Black Liberation Cabinet
October 26, 2008 - 09:40 ET by ThisnThatWait till Obama takes office. There will be an influx of black liberation people throughout government. Maybe not in the top positions -- that would be too obvious -- but a Marxist that has grown up around, and accepted/adopted, black liberationist theories, principles, and philosophy will not give that up after taking control. He will spend his first four years seeding the lower ranks; try to win another 4 years; and then put black liberationists into the top power positions throught government. The msm, of course, will be the last to understand this, which he is counting on to carry out this program.
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Is THAT what he grew up around
October 26, 2008 - 10:51 ET by Josh SNHis grandparents raised him. You know, the grandfather who fought with Patton in WWII? Do most WWII Vets espouse black liberation Marxist ideology? If so, why do they call it the greatest generation?
Yes
October 26, 2008 - 11:12 ET by BKeyserThat is what he grew up around. You have to realize that Obama wasn't raised by his grandfather immediately following WW II. In fact, he was "raised" in the politcal sense, by a most influential group of leftists- those at Columbia University, the Chicago Political Machine, Ayers and his ilk, and his mother, who was by all accounts, pretty far left. Yeah, he was taught to look both ways when crossing the street by his grandmother - maybe - but his ideology was shaped by Communist-backed, hard-left, anti-American radicals with an agenda of taking over the direction of the country. This is the basis (if not the full compostion) of Obama's political belief system.
He was educated at Harvard, True
October 26, 2008 - 11:35 ET by Josh SNHe was raised by his grandparents, he was educated at college. There is a difference.
I still think someone who was an enormously popular lecturer on Constitutional Law at the #1 strict constructionist Law School in America is going to be better for America than Sarah "I can see Russia" Palin, who appoints her high school classmates to office, even if they have absolutely no experience, and who tries to use her power as Governor to avenge her sister. Her sister was standing right next to Trooper Wooten when he shot that moose illegally. Sarah Palin's dad butchered the moose. But now Sarah and Todd want him prosecuted for it? Could John McCain have picked someone dumber?
You mean someone really dumb?
October 26, 2008 - 11:44 ET by BlondeLike Joe Biden? "three letter word....J.O.B.S."
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Josh
October 26, 2008 - 11:52 ET by cocodrieMore revised history. Educate yourself.
I think Ayers and his
October 26, 2008 - 11:41 ET by GrannyGrump42I think Ayers and his buddies are the real power behind Obama.
http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/
Josh
October 26, 2008 - 11:23 ET by Secret ConservativeIt's pretty clear that he rejected his grandparents, even though they raised him. His ideology and worldview were formed more by his longing for his father and mother, who both abandoned him but who were also both Marxists. His mother got stuck on stupid back in the 60's and never recovered. After reading his books, I am convinced (in my amateur psychology way) that his whole life has been a struggle to win the love of the parents who rejected him - especially the father. Why else does he want to send $80 BILLION of our tax dollars to Kenya to "lift" those people out of poverty? Because his father FAILED!
The other thing that has occurred to me is, considering these same grandparents raised his mother, who turned out to be a Marxist, perhaps the acorn didn't fall far from the tree. Again, reading his books, it is clear that his grandfather was a lazy drunk who couldn't keep a job, while his grandmother was the one who worked and supported the family. A lot of men like that lay around the house and whine about the "bad breaks" they've gotten and complain that the "government should do something" instead of getting off their butts, getting sober and getting a job!
Not surprising that Obama has the worldview he does. But that doesn't mean we should elect him!!!!
Kenya
October 26, 2008 - 11:40 ET by Josh SNThere is no way on Earth he is proposing sending 80 billion to Kenya. By regular measures, that would be ten times our annual foreign aid budget. If you include everything under the ODA label, it would be nearly a doubling of the budget (for one country!)
Josh
October 26, 2008 - 13:30 ET by cocodrieBarack Hussein's Global Poverty Act will commit the United Ststes of America to spend 845 billion dollars on welfare for the world. Kenya [Hussein's birthplace] would receive many billions. Go read a good book.
>Why else does he want to
October 26, 2008 - 11:42 ET by GrannyGrump42>Why else does he want to send $80 BILLION of our tax dollars to Kenya to "lift" those people out of poverty? <
So he's too cheap to give his brother $12 a year and double his income, he's waiting until he's POTUS and then he'll just give the a few billion to Kenya?
"So he's too cheap to
October 26, 2008 - 16:48 ET by ckc1227"So he's too cheap to give his brother $12 a year and double his income,
he's waiting until he's POTUS and then he'll just give the a few
billion to Kenya?"
Well, you know libs, they just love to help those in need....with someone else's money. That's why Biden donated $3,000 to charity on 2 million in earnings over 10 years. That's $300 a year. Obama wasn't much better.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Well, they raised his
October 26, 2008 - 16:43 ET by ckc1227Well, they raised his mother too, yet she also turned out to be a marxist, so what's your point?
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Dead Thread Thought
October 26, 2008 - 12:32 ET by Copperhead RidgeI guess this thread is dead, but I want to toss in my "change."
When the campaign started, I swore I was going to vote against both big party candidates. For the first time in my life I was going to vote for a third party because I did not like John McCain, and I am a hard core conservative. Early on I sensed that Barack Obama was unbeatable, so I was going to throw away my vote as a protest to the leftward shift in the Republican party, which has left me behind.
As I encountered more and more Obama supporters and listened to the scary cult-like support of him, I've decided to vote for John McCain. I'll do it through clinched teeth, but my vote is actually against the people who support Obama. I have no real animus toward Barack Obama, except that I think he is duplicitous about his beliefs and his background. However, the people who support him must be kept in check. Most of the ones I've met are socialists and do not even realize it -- a direct result of government indoctrinating children through the use of the school system than any conscious choice to be socialists.
This election will definitely be a watershed, but the media wants it to be a racial watershed. It is actually economic and political watershed. A once free society has now bought entirely into the philosophy of collectivism, even electing a candidate who says, "my individual salvation is not going to come about without a collective salvation for the country."
Those are dangerous words my friend. Unfortunately, I believe that a large portion of this nation believes those kinds of things. I find these teachings in Sunday School lessons, from time-to-time, and when I challenge them I am accused of all sorts of things (even labeled a non-Christian).
I truly believe that individual freedom is finished on November 4th, but it is not because of Barack Obama. It is because Americans are willing to swap their individual liberties for the perceived good of the society. They trade individual liberties for the false security of government programs. People are too willing. People don't want to confront an inner-challenge to be free or to experience the risks of freedom -- real freedom.
I always scratch my head when I learn that another family of friends have moved into a subdivision dictated by one of those fascist little neighborhood associations.
I wonder how many are left who still stand with me in the protection of the individual and the freedoms of the individual. I'll be not many. Sure, there's plenty who read this board, but we have inherited minority status. I know plenty of Republicans who were and are willing to sacrifice free markets and personal freedom for their own power or the power of their party.
Personal Freedom RIP, 1776-2008
The socialists (even though they deny the label) will have their day. I hope they enjoy it. I dread it.
This thread is dead??? Say
October 31, 2008 - 15:20 ET by ThisnThatThis thread is dead??? Say it ain't so. This is the OPEN THREAD -- anything goes.
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Copperhead Ridge
October 31, 2008 - 15:29 ET by bigtimerI'm with you...I feel the same as you so eloquently posted.
I would of wrote in Chuck Baldwin from the Constitution Party, but I truly fear Obama and crew.
Just wanted to say thanks.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I just pray that there a
October 26, 2008 - 09:22 ET by DingbatI just pray that there a lot of voters, even Libs, who, deep down, think this way and in the privacy of the booth will do the right thing. It happened before: I remember my father laughing about Harry Truman getting elected yet no one would fess up to having voted for him.
Well, he certainly can't
October 26, 2008 - 09:23 ET by robert108Well, he certainly can't run on his record, his experience or his ideology, can he? His only policy statements are unAmerican, like negotiating with leaders of terrorist nations with no preconditions and "spreading the wealth", which is "good for everybody", so all he has is image and a slick line of chatter.
What do you expect? The Dems want absolute power, and he looks like the best way for them to get it. Nothing else matters to them. They threw the woman under the bus for the black guy, and are demonizing the Republican woman and the middle class working guy.
Not only does Obama have numerous extreme leftie alliances and influences in his life, but he seems to have had no conservative input at all.
Robert?
October 26, 2008 - 10:56 ET by Josh SNWell, it isn't Obama's fault that McCain picked Palin, and totally undermined the months of "experience" arguments McCain supporters had been using. Any of the picks that might have been expected would have let "experience" still be the issue
The Dems threw the woman under the bus? They voted. They did not vote for Hillary. I made my mind up mostly because I knew how much the right wing irrationally hated Hillary, and I knew nominating her would bring all the haters to the polls, and, to boot, keep Dick Morris relevant.
As for "conservative input," you do realize he taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School? He was the most popular lecturer there, and that school has reputation for being #1 at teaching a conservative viewpoint of the law. #1. Not #2. It's John Ashcroft's law school alma mater, for example.
Josh....you brought up a good point................
October 26, 2008 - 11:33 ET by BEGRUNT"you do realize he taught Constitutional Law at the University of
Chicago Law School? He was the most popular lecturer there, and that
school has reputation for being #1 at teaching a conservative viewpoint
of the law. #1. Not #2. It's John Ashcroft's law school alma mater, for
example."
Why has he NOT released ANY documents, thesis's, lectures that he has done??? What is he hiding?? So he taught Law School......that supposed to not make him a flaming Marxist??? Give me ONE example of a conservative point of view Obama has??
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
How about drilling?
October 26, 2008 - 11:59 ET by Josh SNSo, you are saying that the conservative University of Chicago Law School is covering for Obama, and hiding something from you? This is quite a large conspiracy that you face.
Conservative positions
I won't tell you want magnificently intelligent blog gave me these three conservative positions of Obamas.
Good lord Josh... Your
October 26, 2008 - 12:18 ET by Clear thinkerGood lord Josh...
Your examples are lame.
Obama would allow murdering a baby after surviving an abortion. This alone out-weighs anything else he did in this area.
The second one I would have to know more about.
On your 3rd point. He saw no reason to punish the telecoms because the government was doing something he believes is unconstitutional. He would trash the Patriot Act and leave us vulnerable to more terror attacks.
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Josh.....typical liberal, dont answer the question.....
October 26, 2008 - 12:26 ET by BEGRUNTThrow up a non sense smoke screen. ANSWER the question.....WHY has Obama NOT released ANY of his college papers, thesis's, lectures, etc.?????????
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Enigma
October 26, 2008 - 12:56 ET by acumenWHY has Obama NOT released ANY of his college papers, thesis's, lectures, etc.?????????
Allow me to say what the indoctrinated disciple dare not.
Because Obama is running the most secretive campaign in the history of our nation.
He won't allow his transcript from his undergraduate days at Columbia University to be released.
He "lost" his thesis on Soviet nuclear policy (see "Where in the World is Obama's Missing Thesis" which might provide insight regarding his seeming lack of knowledge about Soviet policy during the Kennedy years).
He won't answer questions about his days at Harvard Law School.
He "lost" his Illinois Senate records.
He will only release a simple one-page letter from his doctor on his medical condition.
He won't release his application to the state bar, which, as National Review's Jim Geraghty notes raises questions about whether he told the truth about parking tickets and drug use, among other issues.
He won't disclose a list of his clients from his law firm days or the nature of the work he did for them as a lawyer (his clients include the indicted political fixer Tony Rezko).
He walks away from uncomfortable questions about Rezko at a news conference.
His cultists try to shut down inquiry into his stewardship of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge by sliming a journalist investigating his days at the helm of that group, which blew through $100 million dollars with no discernible benefit for the schools and students that it was putatatively designed to help (what does the constitutional law lecturer say to the chilling of free speech by his acolytes?).
He tries to muddle his long-standing ties with Pastor Wright by producing a version of his attendance record at Trinity Church that is sharply at variance with previous versions he has given ("Obama Re-invents his Trinity Church history").
And there is so much, much more....
acumen......when confronted with.........
October 26, 2008 - 13:04 ET by BEGRUNTfacts our liberal cheerleader has nothing to say, because he cant.....he has no response....all you get with his type is <crickets> Or talking points.....nothing else.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Bah
October 26, 2008 - 13:16 ET by Josh SNYour arguments seem to suggest the University of Chicago Law School, Harvard University and Columbia University are part of a large conspiracy to hide all their records about Senator Obama from the public. Just now you added the "fact" that the Illinois State government is part of the conspiracy, by hiding records of Obama's service there.
There's nothing I can say if you really believe all that.
I appear to be about the only Obama supporter here. Pardon me that I can't keep up with the many hundreds of comments in all threads at once! Geesh! I know you think I'm superman, but part of me just wants to relax this Sunday.
Josh
October 26, 2008 - 13:26 ET by cocodrieBy all means, go somewhere relax, and read some accurate books and educate yourself.
Josh....thanks again for the non answer.....
October 26, 2008 - 13:37 ET by BEGRUNTOne more time.....WHY wont Obama release his college transcrpits, papers, thesis's, lectures, etc????????????????? WHAT IS HE HIDING??????? It has NOTHING to do with the institutions you mention...OBAMA WONT RELEASE THEM.......WHY?????????
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Dear Obama Supporter
October 26, 2008 - 13:55 ET by acumenYour arguments seem to suggest the University of Chicago Law School, Harvard University and Columbia University are part of a large conspiracy to hide all their records about Senator Obama from the public.
First of all Josh, they are not my arguments - they are others based on facts (see citations). Additionally, the very fact that you are incredulous that major universities that hire the likes of Billy Ayers would be in the tank for Obama illustrates the depth of your naivite.
By all means chill out, relax, break out the bong for all I care. I'll even offer some relaxing video. I strongly suggest the following videos by Evan Coyne Maloney for your enjoyment (if not your personal elightenment). Seeing how you mentioned Columbia you might want to scroll down to the Columbia video first. Then may I suggest you use common sense and form your own opinion. There is a helluva lot more at stake in this election than you are obviously currently aware of and I find that as frightening as the mysterious individual you support.
acumen:
October 27, 2008 - 11:20 ET by j. frank wilsonSen. McCain has refused to release copies of his wife's Federal income tax returns? Just why is that? We know she and her father invested over $350,000 with Charles Keating of Lincoln S&L fame. What investments is she hiding?
Why is Sen. McCain so secretive about his medical records?
See - both sides can play the records game. And that's all it is - a distraction from the real issues.
I agree j.,
October 27, 2008 - 11:32 ET by AgnosticWhile I agree with you about the distraction I am still waiting for a politician that actually wants discuss real issues and how to solve problems. They all say they want to discuss the issues but none ever actually take the lead.
I have noticed that it has become a favorite ploy by Senator Obama however to start being critical of his opponents about "issues" when he is put on the spot but as long as the media is hammering his opponents he sits back and watches the slaughter with Nero like smile. (a little bias coming though there)
If we stuck to issues both candidates would come off as looking ridiculous because in the end the best that Senator Obama can do is tag-a-long on Pelosi/Reid bills that they will push through and the best Senator McCain will be able to do is try to veto some of the bills that come his way. That is why I believe we need McCain - to prevent the onslaught of the results of Pelosi/Reid and congressional brainstorming sessions.
frank
October 27, 2008 - 12:03 ET by cocodrieMcCain has released all Of his medical records, Barack Hussein has released none of his. Sen. McCain and his wife file separate returns. Cindy's returns are none of your busuness and none of mine. McCain has released his, Barack Hussein has not. McCain was cleared of any misconduct. Barack has never addressed his association with a long list of terrorists Ayers, and Farakhan are only two. The list is long. I go trolling for shrimp in the gulf why do you come trolling here?
cocodrie:
October 27, 2008 - 12:09 ET by j. frank wilsonSen. McCain permitted a highly supervised brief peak at his medical records. Sen. Obama has released his tax returns going back for years.
Mrs. McCain invested with her father $350,000 in a Charles Keating shopping center. A year later Sen. McCain told the S&L regulators to back off Lincoln. Sen. & Mrs. McCain took numerous vacations with Mr. Keating, including flying to his private island on his jet. Now, that's a solid record of pal'ing around with a proven crook (unlike Prof. Ayers, Charles Keating was convicted in court and sent to prison). With a record of investing with swindlers, Mrs. McCain should release all her tax returns. She didn't. So now the voters are going to decide whom to believe.
What in the world does the Rev. Farakhan have to do with Sen. Obama? Keep reaching - keep making stuff up. The truth is far too ugly for Republicans in general and Sen. McCain in particular.
Go Lame Cherry! Cold Harbor!
frank
October 27, 2008 - 12:31 ET by cocodrieI repeat - McCain was cleared by a unanimous vote. By your reasoning Barack Hussein should be sharing a jail cell with Tony Rezko. Farakhan is a long time friend of Barack Hussein and has declared him to be the messiah of the koran who is coming to subjugate the world under the rule of Islam. Barack Hussein has not released all of his records, in particular his medical. Good trolling but you only came up with a rubber boot, try again.
cocodrie:
October 27, 2008 - 12:44 ET by j. frank wilsonSen. McCain was found to have used poor judgment - kind of the story of his life, isn't it? He may have the character to be President; he has neither the judgment or the temperament.
Mrs. McCain has proven track record of investing with a convicted swindler and thief. That is reason enough for her to show us copies of her Federal income tax returns. Sen. & Mrs. Obama never invested with Mr. Rezko.
If the Rev. Farakhan supports Sen. Obama - that doesn't mean Sen. Obama supports the Rev. Farakhan. Remember what Ronald Reagan said about that?
frank
October 27, 2008 - 12:57 ET by cocodrieRezko the swindler prasctically gave Barack HUssein and his lovely wife their multi-million dollar house. Farakhan declared Barack Hussein to be the messiah of the koran, Is his personal friend, and was honored in Hussein' church. Barack Hussein is still personal friends with Ayers and other terrorists.
cocodrie:
October 27, 2008 - 13:18 ET by j. frank wilsonIs the "drie" short for "deranged?"
Mr. Rezko did not practically give the Obamas their house. That's just stupid.
The Rev. Louis Farrakhan was not "honored" by Sen. Obama's former church. That's a lie.
As for Sen. Obama's "personal friends" you certainly know a great deal about his social life. I don't believe it.
frank
October 27, 2008 - 13:35 ET by cocodrieHussein is still a member of Wright's church. His associations with Ayers, Farahkan and other terrorists is a matter of public record. I give you credit for this much, you are very good at ignoring reality and denying the truth.
cocodrie:
October 28, 2008 - 10:54 ET by j. frank wilsonYou need to pick up a paper once in a while.
Sen. Obama is not longer a member of Trinity Church. And Rev. Wright is no longer the pastor.
frank
October 28, 2008 - 11:04 ET by cocodrieGlad you believe the lies they put out. The new "pastor" is Wright's protege who is fronting for Wright. Barack Hussein has not resigned from the church nor has he denounced Wright. Hussein is just lying low until after the election.
cocoDranged:
October 28, 2008 - 12:58 ET by j. frank wilsonSo you were wrong again. Twice.
J Franks Willy is no longer a member of the communist party.
October 30, 2008 - 00:09 ET by JWFBut he still spouts their propaganda.
I fail to see the difference.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
JWF:
October 31, 2008 - 12:45 ET by j. frank wilson"The communist party?" You're lost in the '50's...Along with a goodly portion of the Republican party.
Well, if you're dating yourself at least you're going out with someone you like...
Full disclosure
October 27, 2008 - 12:44 ET by Gat New YorkMcCain is an open book, while Obama has been hiding records of his life and his health without so much of a peep from the media.
I want to see Obama's health records and in particular x-rays and blood tests that might show the ill effects of his decades of chain smoking. His mother died at 53 from cancer. As a chain smoker until recently we have a right to know if Obama has significant affects from that smoking.
As far as college, Obama has released no records of his years at Columbia or Harvard. That is highly unusual and again the media does not say a peep.
What does Louis Farrakhan have to do with Obama. Other than having met the man, his 20 year pastor and church praised him with a lifetime achievement award. Unless Obama is functionally ignorant or blind he would have known about it through the Trumpet the church publication mailed to his home. If he wished to disavow himself from Farrakhan he should have done it right then when he found out and not much later.
Also, his recently released 2001 radio interview confirms that he is a believer in Black Liberation Theology which was preached by Wright and was also believed in by Farrakhan.
So keep drinking your kool aid.
Gat New York:
October 27, 2008 - 12:48 ET by j. frank wilsonSen. McCain's life is not an open book - where are his wife's Federal income tax returns? She and her father invested $350,000 with a convicted swindler and thief. A year later Sen. McCain told the S&L regulators to back off Lincoln Savings. Thousands of folks lost their life savings when Lincoln went under. Do you really not know that story?
So Sen. Obama met the Rev. Farrakhan? What a shock! And - Sen. Obama's former church did not give the Rev. Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award. Do try to get your facts straight.
Apparently you have a problem with Black Liberation Theology. Assuming that you really understand it (and I doubt that very much). I don't.
Farrakhan got the The
October 27, 2008 - 13:16 ET by Gat New YorkFarrakhan got the The Trumpeter Award for lifetime achievement from Wright's Trinity Church while Obama was a member and before Wright became a political issue for Obama.
How many decades ago was Lincoln Savings and what does it have to do with now?
Yes, I have a major problem with Black Liberation Theology and so should you unless you are a believer in it.
Gat New York:
October 27, 2008 - 13:23 ET by j. frank wilsonA magazine gave Rev. Farrakhan an award. Not a church.
Mrs. McCain and her father invested $350,000 with convicted swindler and thief Charles Keating. She should release copies of her Federal income tax returns. This is a woman who has had her share of problems. Yes, some are in the past. Fine. When it comes to finances, candidates for President and their families need to be open with the American people. The McCains are not.
Just how much time have you spent actually studying Black Liberation Theology? Or do you depend on talking heads like Sheer Insannity to explain it to you?
A magazine gave Rev. Farrakhan an award. Not a church.
October 27, 2008 - 13:28 ET by Gat New YorkGet off this site.
Either ring intelligence here or don't waste people's time.
The magazine, the Trumpet, is the Trinity Church magazine. Get it?
As Jew I have looked more extensively into this fraud Obama and his Wright association than most have. I have also looked at this fraud's foreign policy advisors - ALL of whom are anti-Israel. What is even more interesting is that the two so-called Republicans he may have in his cabinet - Hagel and Luger - were the only two republicans to vote against the Kyl Lieberman Amendment that designated Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard as a terror organization.
Get New York:
October 28, 2008 - 13:01 ET by j. frank wilsonThe Trumpet was founded by people associated with Trinity Church. Who owns and operates it today? And of somewhat more importance, who owned and operated it when it gave its award to Louis Farrakhan.
Who decides the award? "The Church?" Nope.
Good boy!
October 30, 2008 - 00:25 ET by JWFSpread that leftist propaganda like a good little socialist that you are! MMMMM! Yummy! leftist propaganda on toast! Yummy Obamalove spread the lies! Yummy!
On Monday, McCain’s attorney, John Dowd, said in a conference call with reporters that McCain was not aware of his wife’s and father-in-law’s investment with Keating at the time it was made. “John was unconnected to that and unaware of it at the time and did not participate in it,” Dowd said.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
GNY... Plus he does not
October 27, 2008 - 13:02 ET by bigtimerGNY...
Plus he does not post his contributors either on his site ...I want to know where he is getting all this money...especially foreign...
McC posts all his contributors...
If this was reversed the msm would of already found out, by demanding this 24/7...big time...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I think George Soros has
October 27, 2008 - 13:22 ET by Gat New YorkI think George Soros has those answers.
GNY... Yep...me
October 27, 2008 - 13:29 ET by bigtimerGNY...
Yep...me too.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BigMouth:
October 27, 2008 - 13:26 ET by j. frank wilsonThat makes a great deal of sense. All those folks who each gave twenty bucks to Sen. Obama's campaign are now going to tell him how to vote. Right. Got it.
Meanwhile, Sen. McCain has been head down in the campaign money trough for years and years, taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from businesses the Senate Committee he chaired was supposed to be regulating - generally he was the first or second largest recipient of campaign contributions in the Senate from those industries - no problem. Right. Got it.
Wait, are you sreiously
October 26, 2008 - 16:37 ET by ckc1227Wait, are you seriously going to argue that Obama is Conservative on abortion?
HA HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha......
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Sarah has more executive
October 26, 2008 - 18:27 ET by robert108Sarah has more executive experience than Obama, and she is the VP candidate. It is interesting that your first instinct is to compare Obama with her. Obama has no accomplishments and almost no voting record. Sarah has negotiated with Canada.
Hillary would have won the nomination except for the fact that they didn't count the votes in two States. They threw her under the bus.
robert108:
October 27, 2008 - 10:15 ET by j. frank wilsonGov. Palin has very limited "executive" experience. Sen. Obama has built a nationwide organization with 1,000 employees, hundreds of thousands of volunteers, raised hundreds of millions of dollars, and continues to run like a fine watch. He used his community organizing experience to build the first 21st Century presidential campaign.
Sen. Obama has both accomplishments and a voting record. All you have to do is look it up.
The Democratic Party agreed on rules for its primaries. They were not Sen. Obama's rules, Sen. Clinton's rules, or any other one person's rules. They were clearly established in advance. Michigan and Florida ignored them.
Gov. Palin can see Russia from her tanning bed - wow!
What proof do you have that
October 27, 2008 - 12:47 ET by Gat New YorkWhat proof do you have that Obama is actually running his own campaign and the he personally hired and managed all those people you claim?
Obama has zero accomplishments and not record. I did look it up and it does not exist. As a State Senator he was an embarrassment. he wrote 31 bills most of which had to be rewritten and nearly all did not pass.
In the U.S. Senate he has done nothing.
When you equate a person who runs a campaign with any other type of executive then you could not have a real job yourself.
Gat New York:
October 27, 2008 - 12:51 ET by j. frank wilsonIf you could not locate the Illinois and US Senate accomplishments of Sen. Obama you didn't look very hard. Fine. That's up to you.
A national presidental campaign is a great test of executive ability. Clearly Sen. McCain does not have it. Clearly Sen. Obama does. And you will see the results of that on Nov. 4th.
j f wingnut...
October 27, 2008 - 13:19 ET by MightyMouthSince you asked about Obama's stellar State voting record:
Sponsored or Co-Sponsored 823 bills, per the link:
of those, 16 made it to a vote
of those, 10 passed. That means that only 1.2% of his socialist proposals made it through. WOW! what a record!!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM... ...and here is a
October 27, 2008 - 13:20 ET by bigtimerMM...
...and here is a great place to insert this about his real views on gun control and the Second Amendment...this was a great letter with just the facts Jack by a regular citizen here in Montana... what was surprsing is this is a shocker to some who may not know, was actually printed in the paper.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT, best line in that link:
October 27, 2008 - 13:30 ET by MightyMouth"Obama has bodyguards with handguns for his personal protection, but his voting record shows he does not think you should have a handgun for your protection."
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM... I agree...what
October 27, 2008 - 13:42 ET by bigtimerMM...
I agree...what absolute hypocrisy...this made me think back to Rosie O'Donnell and the Million Mom March...although she isn't a threat...it is the same hypocrisy as she has been protected too by those big bad guns...while she spews her leftist BS.
Despicable.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
frank
October 27, 2008 - 13:23 ET by cocodrieI did check his accomplishments in Illinois. He has none other than voting present and getting rich courtesy of his crooked friends. He did however vote to kill babies born alive during a botched abortion. I see you are still ignorant to the facts and blind to the truth.
cocodrie:
October 27, 2008 - 15:29 ET by j. frank wilsonTo say you've lost it would wrongly suggest you once had it.
Sen. Obama did not vote to kill babies. Are you really that clueless? You must also believe that nut on the Sheer Insannity show who claims Chinese people eat babies. Yep, that's the "nurse" he had on several times. Amazing. Sad, of course, yet still amazing.
Apparently you will fall for anything. Leading me to conclude that you actually believe in nothing. No surprise.
Frankly, j. frank...
October 28, 2008 - 08:39 ET by Mike Bratton...if personal disparagements are all you have, you're empty-handed in this discussion.
Perhaps you would share with us your perception of what a vote against the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (either the Illinois bill or the federal one) means? The bill was designed to prevent people from allowing or causing the deaths of children born as the result of a ineffective abortion.
If a child is born, alive, and through either action or purposeful inaction that baby dies, what would you call it? Cocodrie refers to it as killing babies. On the other hand, Obama's votes suggest he is against the notion of assisting children who are born, alive, and for the notion of their deaths, either through action or purposeful inaction.
Please, j. frank, show us you can engage in the discussion without hyperbole and bile. I'd look at it as a personal favor.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
Mike Bratton:
October 28, 2008 - 11:02 ET by j. frank wilsonI find it quite interesting that you accuse me of "hyperbole and bile" but say nothing about the numerous insults others have posted about me.
Meanwhile, Sen. Obama has made it quite clear that Illinois law already required infants born alive to be kept alive. There is a crazy nurse out there spreading a discredited story about how she had to keep an new-born baby alive - she has been on Sheer Insannity's show. Do you believe her? Do you believe her statements that Chinese people eat babies, too?
Extreme anti-abortion folks contend that there should not be a provision to permit abortions to save the life or health of the mother. Others do not support legal abortions in the case of rape or incest. From time to time legislation is introduced not to actually resolve a problem but just to stir things up and get people excited.
Bottom line: Illinois law was already in place to take care of this issue.
We're not talking about any other misbehaviors.
October 28, 2008 - 12:10 ET by Mike BrattonJust yours. And I note that you don't dispute the statement.
The "crazy nurse" (another character attack from you) is a woman named Jill Stanek. She has a website, www.jillstanek.com; perhaps you'd like to write her directly and tell her that you consider her "crazy"? And Sean Hannity is pretty easy to find, too, but I'm guessing you wouldn't communicate your perceptions with either of them directly. Is measured discourse above your pay grade?
But let's follow your logic: Voting for a bill that reiterates and strengthens a state's (or a government's) position on killing children is a bad thing, while voting against it is a good thing?
And isn't it interesting that you misstate what Ms. Stanek has had to say on alleged cannibalism of aborted children? To quote her--and it isn't really difficult to find out what she said, rather than lying about it--thusly and like so:
"If true." Sounds like Ms. Stanek has a certain skepticism about the reports. And what about the point she made? If yet-to-be-born children aren't human beings, and they're nothing wrong with killing them, what would be wrong, j. frank, with consuming them?
And it's "extreme" to say that abortion is always wrong?
Why?
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
mike bratton:
October 28, 2008 - 13:11 ET by j. frank wilsonSince you've appointed yourself to be the manner police of NB - I simply pointed out you are very selective in whom you take to task. Apparently you agree. I've never been the first to insult any commentor on this site. Never.
As for the comments of Ms. Stanek, yes I think this is crazy:
Monday, April 09, 2007
Sweet and Sour Fetus: Chinese cannibalismby Jill StanekThe following, if true, is what abortion and the dehumanization of preborn babies has wrought. It is the most despicable outcome of abortion I have ever seen or reported. Yet, if one is "pro-choice" and denies that preborn humans are human, there is nothing wrong with this whatsoever. It can't even be considered cannibalism.
Reported The Epoch Times on March 29...
http://illinoisrevie...
[anyone who has the stomach for it is welcome to read the silly article. I'm not going to repeat it]
Yes, I do support the right of women to choose whether or not to have an abortion. Abortion should be safe, legal and very, very rare. If people really cared about it they would support realistic sex education and other obvious programs that make sense.
As Sen. Obama has pointed out many times, we can continue to disagree on abortion while working together to significantly reduce the number of unintentional pregnancies in this country - and around the world.
No, I'm not the "manner police."
October 28, 2008 - 14:13 ET by Mike BrattonYou behave like a schoolyard bully and are outraged--outraged, I tell you!--when you get called on it.
You insult commenters all over this thread, so your protestations to the contrary are, to be kind, moot.
And you lied about Ms. Stanek, who exhibited a degree of skepticism in the quote you just used.
You're also lying about your desire for abortion to be "safe," since any abortion has as its goal the death of a developing child.
Last I checked, death isn't safe.
By the same token, Obama is lying about "working together" to reduce abortions. He hasn't lifted a finger to that task, and has put all his efforts in the area toward making it easier and more profitable to kill developing children.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
Ms. Manners:
October 28, 2008 - 14:35 ET by j. frank wilsonI have never been the first to insult any commentor on NB. As I wrote, yes I've responded. What's wrong with that?
As for Ms. Stanek - I did not lie. I do believe she lied about her baby in the hospital story. The hospital itself investigated it (of course) and found it not to be true. More to the point - if she didn't believe that delusional news item why did she spread it around? Just in case it might be true? That certainly makes a lot of sense.
Just as those who spread around the rumor that a McCain supporter had been attacked by an Obama supporter didn't bother to wait for the truth to come out - they just had to tell everyone they could because it fit their preconceptions. Just like the "5,000,000 illegals have home mortgages in the US" story on NB that was a lie. Repeat it first - correct later if you must...
J.Frank ... the question dodger
October 28, 2008 - 14:40 ET by LionKingDid you ever address the issue of Obama's Illinois Senate vote against the law which would REQUIRE intervention for the baby which survive the abortion?
Another question: How do you feel about torture? Obama supports ALL abortions including partial-birth abortions ... this form of abortion pales in comparison to torture ... it truly is an act of abomination.
*
October 28, 2008 - 15:01 ET by TheSter*Dbl post
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government.
OMG!!! Sheppard SMITH of FOX news LOVES OBAMA!!!
October 28, 2008 - 15:00 ET by TheSterOK. He is defending OBAMA. HE just called Joe the Plumber's OPINION "frightening". 2:50pm
Also Sheppard calls Global Warming Skeptics....KOOKS a month ago.
Ster.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government.
Hello Franklin. I'm Ster. Everybody..Watch THIS!!!
October 28, 2008 - 14:50 ET by TheSterMike ...I'm IN ON THIS.
Franklin..I'll be with you ALL Night.
Soooo...What's your Topic???
NO RULES.
I've been a BARTENDER for a DECADE. I Can PLAY. What do you got??
LETS GO.
Ster.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government.
Mike Bratton....
October 28, 2008 - 14:36 ET by LionKingMargaret Sanger is a big supporter of Planned Parenthood. Before that mission, she made every effort to sustain the practice of eugenics.
Dirty Secret: For Margaret Sanger, the net effect is the same. The demographics for abortion favor the poor as well as minorities. Abortion is a warped form of elitism IMHO.
Mike Bratton..Can I play?? I WILL WIN FOR NB?!?!
October 28, 2008 - 14:43 ET by TheSterI PROMICE...There will be Collaterial Damage...ON Franklin's' Part.
Ster.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government.
mike -- you're wasting
October 28, 2008 - 14:26 ET by Jack Bauermike -- you're wasting your time with this poster.
He's like Obama -- a "fact" is a "fact" because he says so.
A little revenge for the last 8 years of Bush Bashing
October 30, 2008 - 00:37 ET by JWFOBAMA LIED! BABIES DIED!
J Wetthebed Frank spoonfeeds everyone yummy Obama propaganda!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
»→ Obama did not lie
October 30, 2008 - 01:32 ET by Cool ArrowHe was straightforward with his wish that babies could be killed even after their birth.
He just relied on the media to ignore it, and then bend it into something nonexistant.
Obama still believes in the genocide of little black babies and the escalation of young black males killing each other.
Were it not so, he would have spent some time trying to stop the violence in Chicago rather than using Chicago as a stepping stone in his quest for a kingdom.
I did find his record of
October 27, 2008 - 13:21 ET by Gat New YorkI did find his record of bills and voting - I just could not find a shred of accomplishments he had.
A presidential campaign is no test of anything. It's a marketing gig. It is no different than promoting a movie or a product. Obama is nothing more than a brand that others have built. But like other brands, once you strip away the marketing B.S. there is nothing there of real substance.
Obama is an actor you can walk well onto a stage and deliver a good speech - but he nothing to offer beyond that other than his socialist beliefs.
Gat New York:
October 27, 2008 - 15:31 ET by j. frank wilson"A presidential campaign is no test of anything." That certainly explains why the McCain-Palin ticket is doing so well right now!
Obama campaign silencing perceived critics
October 26, 2008 - 09:28 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsIf he wins, I will be increasing my stock of disaster supplies, and will be ready for anyone who tries to force their way into my home. I only half expect that to happen, but wouldn't be surprised.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
We have already begun to
October 26, 2008 - 09:47 ET by sherylsimsWe have already begun to prepare here. I don't know what form the "crisis" will take, but we have been warned (by Joe Bumbles) that something will happen. We should be ready for all kinds of eventualities.
The Baracuda
October 26, 2008 - 09:29 ET by ricklailESPN's Outside the Lines did a good piece on Sarah "the Baracuda" Heath, Co-captain and point guard for the 1982 Alaskan Girls Basketball Champions Wasila Warriors. Although she made only one point it was from that freethrow that sealed the win for the Warriors. The Cuda had sprained her ankle in the semi-final game. Unknown at the time she had a stress fracture. She played through the pain to help her team to the championship.
How refreshing to see something besides a hit piece on Gov. Palin.
"The devil is a better theologian that any of us and is a devil still" A.W. Tozer
And ESPN is a sister company
October 27, 2008 - 15:34 ET by semolina_filcherAnd ESPN is a sister company of ABC and owned by Disney...
Chapter One
October 26, 2008 - 09:31 ET by The DistributistThis is all straight out of Chapter One of "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg. "Everything You Know About Fascism is Wrong". Obama is getting the same treatment that the American media and elite establishment gave to Mussolini in his early years, before his Thugocracy began brazenly beating up and killing his opponents.
The New Electorate is governed by their emotions, and their emotional development has not been very advanced, either. We may indeed learn firsthand why the Founding Fathers presciently determined that an occasional revolution against our own government may be necessary to preserve the Republic.
"I would rather a boy learnt in the roughest school the courage
to hit a politician, or gained in the hardest school the learning to
refute him - rather than that he should gain in the most enlightened
school the cunning to copy him." -GKC
Say it ISN'T SO, Joe - - and that is where we are, as Joe votes
October 26, 2008 - 09:36 ET by JayTeeIt's up to the "I am Joe"s of America to vote and Decide.
I have learned one definitive item, I have learned one TRUTH, the MSM does not Report News Information anymore.
They lost it in the Election "coverage". It was irritating for years, but now the lack of Honest Journalism is repulsive and obvious to the most casual observer, even the MSM themselves do not deny their Bias, their softball questions to their Candidate of choice, Their manipulation of Interviews and Quotes, "it is Finished".
A plethora of very hard Questions arise . . . about the NEW MEDIA vs. the OLD MEDIA.
Is the new Media going to take over and Fill in for the absence of Honest Journalism ?
Will you have to have an internet connection to find Reality in the World, or does the New Media precipitate the death and replacement of the MSM "News" and TV talking heads giving you the news of the day ?
Is Talk radio more Powerful than ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN combined ? Do the people in their cars RUN THIS NATION, or do the COUCH POTATOS watching MSM run this Nation ?
Tune in on Nov. 5th for the Answer.
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
To my NC friends
October 26, 2008 - 09:43 ET by ricklailBarry Smith, a friend and reporter that covers the General Assembly had 2 good articles in today's New Bern Sun Journal about our candiates for governor. The question that I paid most attention to was, "What was your toughest job?"
Charlotte Mayor Pat McCory- Working construction while in college laying down pavement.
Status Quo Lt. Gov. Bev Perdue-Moving teachers pay up with Gov. Hunt and getting elected.
I think that about says it all. Who is the friend of the working man?
"The devil is a better theologian that any of us and is a devil still" A.W. Tozer
Naturally, I disagree
October 26, 2008 - 09:46 ET by Josh SNThere is not a single policy position where I trust John McCain more than Barack Obama. Nor do I fear that Obama's time as Executive will result in any substantive change in freedom.
During the last 8 years, with massive tax cuts for the very wealthy, the middle class has lost ground. McCain wants to make those tax cuts permanent. War and Taxes are the big two issues, and on this issue, McCain is voting Plutocratic. Most of these benefits will be going to Rock Stars, Movie Stars, Sports Stars, Investment Bankers and CEOs. Those are the only people in this country who make millions. I am not at all concerned if they have only 50 million instead of 100 million dollars next year. Not at all.
On the other major issue, war, I must admit to being entirely idiosyncratic. When McCain, in late October, 2006, suggested increasing the number of troops by 20,000, the troop total was about 144,000. It had previously been as high 160,000 (Nov and Dec, 2005). I do not believe suggesting we increase the maximum number of troops from 160 to 164 thousand made much of a difference at all. I think Casey was a terrible General, and Petreaus is not incompetent. The main thing was that we started sending paychecks to the guys who used to be attacking us, buying them off. That will fail awfully once we decide to stop paying. There are serious issues, pushback from the Shia dominated parties of al-Maliki and his supporters in SCIRI and Dawa, to bringing _all_ of the "Sons of Iraq" (mostly Sunni, former anti-government, militias) into the National Guard Proper. Last I heard (I could be out of date) the difference was something like 20K was OK (says Maliki) which leaves 80K "Sons of Iraq" looking for a new way to make a dime.
Neither McCain nor Obama, in my estimation, wants to deal with Iran sanely. Again, I have my own view here, and no major candidate ever said anything really good. The 2006?7? NIE shows pretty conclusively that Iran stopped working on a nuclear bomb (and I have _lots_ more to say about that) in 2003. Modern Republicans are actually talking about bombing (or having Israel bomb) a country that is doing no wrong at all. Barbara Iran McCain is far worse on this score than Obama.
On the biggest issues, McCain is wrong and Obama is better.
Well then, it just shows how truly clueless you are.
October 26, 2008 - 10:10 ET by JWFDoesn't it? You have been spoonfed the liberal media propaganda, and you swallowed it all happily, then come here to try to pass it on to someone else.
You question nothing they tell you, believe every little thing, and scoop up the tiny morsels that hit the ground and lick your fingers like a good gullible little starving child.
Guess what. Tax cuts ARE for the wealthy, they pay most of the taxes. If you would bother to look around with your own eyes, the midlle class ARE doing fine.
Yummy. Yummy. Yummy. The war propaganda is most tastey! You have not served. You probably don't know anyone who have served. You pay almost nothing in taxes to support the war. Yet, here you are railing against a war that WE started and must finish. And you are SHOCKED that we climb into bed with some nasty characters in a war you know next to nothing about. And once again, we have a liberal decrying a war we are WINNING.
MMMMM. More yummy progaganda on Iran! How sad that democracies have to fight fascists to defend freedom, huh? You are neither well read or the slightest bit informed about the state of the planet yet you will gladly post your little rant here. Iran has a 29 years history of hostility to the Great Satan and the Little Satan. The Iran hostage crisis, Beruit Marine barracks and French and American embassy bombings. Riyadh Air Force Barracks, the bombings in Argentina for which the mullas are indicted, among the major items, not to mention the past 5 years of their underground involvement of trying to kill our troops.
Mark Levin was talking about YOU, you clueless little vermin.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
I agree 100%, except...
October 26, 2008 - 10:36 ET by ontheright...I believe "delusional" is the more appropriate word to describe our friend and fellow citizen, Josh.
Josh
October 26, 2008 - 11:21 ET by cocodriePlease read some accurate history books and get out of the revisionist rut you are in. You're so deep in that rut you can't even see daylight.
Hmmm
October 26, 2008 - 11:03 ET by Josh SNAlthough the rich pay more taxes (as Demosthenes said, over 2,300 years ago, the rich always want lower taxes and the poor always want more dole), the tax burden has shifted towards the poor. Most people in America pay more in payroll taxes than in income taxes. Income taxes declined (especially for the top .01%) while payroll taxes stayed flat. Therefore, obviously, a higher percentage of the total burden is now paid by the middle class.
As for the middle class losing ground, Median Income has declined since 2001. Things were best, on that score, during those awful, awful days called the 1950s and 1960s when tax rates on the rich were between 70 and 90% (Those AWFUL 1950s! And awful Commie President Eisenhower! And AWFUL equality! And AWFUL everyone being "square")
As for Iran, you didn't refute a single word the National Intelligence Estimate said, did you? No. I didn't mention any of those other events. If they aren't working on a nuke, then we certainly shouldn't bomb them based on the idea that they are working on a bomb. That would be about as dumb as invading Iraq principally because they had WMD when they actually got rid of their WMD in 1995-96, just as the defecting son-in-law of Saddam, killed by Saddam, told us when he spoke to the CIA.
"Things were best, on
October 26, 2008 - 16:30 ET by ckc1227"Things were best, on that score, during those awful, awful days called
the 1950s and 1960s when tax rates on the rich were between 70 and 90%
(Those AWFUL 1950s! And awful Commie President Eisenhower! And AWFUL
equality! And AWFUL everyone being "square")"
I was wrong, it isn't kool aid you're on, it's crack.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Josh SN:
October 27, 2008 - 10:35 ET by j. frank wilsonYou make some excellent points.
It is important to keep in mind that under the Republication administrations we've seen a shift in the income tax burden from corporations to individuals. Most companies in the US today do not pay income taxes. Individuals do. Generally those individuals who earn a wage - the number of self-employed tax cheats is beyond out of hand.
The dirty secret of the Bush tax "cuts" is that income tax percentages were reduced but the bracket floors were lowered at the same time.
Don't worry about not finding many people on NB who will agree with you. The group think atmosphere is almost impossible to penetrate.
"There is not a single
October 26, 2008 - 16:01 ET by ckc1227"There is not a single policy position where I trust John McCain more
than Barack Obama. Nor do I fear that Obama's time as Executive will
result in any substantive change in freedom."
Then you not only drink the kool aid, you literally swim in it.
But let's pretend you're right, tax cuts were only for the rich. How does that hold you back? It doesn't. How does making them permanent hold you back? It doesn't. The reason you're held back is because you're waiting for someone to give you something off the backs of someone else's labor. Good luck with that. Keep doing what you've always done and you'll keep getting what you've always gotten. Meanwhile, my income has grown every year since 2003, and I will make the most I ever have this year. Damn that Bush economy.
"I am not at all concerned if they have only 50 million instead of 100 million dollars next year. Not at all."
And that's your problem. You think they should care about you, but you couldn't give a crap about them, all because they make more than you. You feel that it's ok to screw people because they have a lot of money. I don't. I guess someone forgot to tell me its the United-States-of-America-unless-you're-a-rich-person,-in-which- case-screw-you-but-give-me-your-money-first. See, I always thought it was the USA for all, rich, poor and middle class. I also thought the goal was to get rich, not steal from the rich.
"The 2006?7? NIE shows pretty conclusively that Iran stopped working on
a nuclear bomb (and I have _lots_ more to say about that) in 2003."
Ahh, so THIS NIE is correct, but the one before it that said they were working on a nuclear bomb was wrong? Does that mean you also agreed with the NIE that said Iraq had WMDS, or do you only agree with NIEs that conclude a country doesn't have WMDs?
"Modern Republicans are actually talking about bombing (or having Israel bomb) a country that is doing no wrong at all"
Really? Where are all these modern Republicans? I hear more liberals making this claim than actual Republicans calling for bombing Iran. Still, you and I have a different understanding of what "doing no wrong is". I think Iranian troops crossing into Iraq to kill American soldiers is clearly doing something wrong.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Those "tax cuts" are really
October 26, 2008 - 18:32 ET by robert108Those "tax cuts" are really tax rate cuts, and have brought in more revenue to the Treasury, so you have no argument there. The "for the rich" BS denies basic fairness; everybody got a cut in their tax rate, and those who make more got more money, but a smaller percentage reduction. You're speaking propaganda here.
robert108:
October 27, 2008 - 10:38 ET by j. frank wilsonLeaving aside it is mathmatically impossible for tax rate cuts to produce more overall revenue - can you draw a direct line from a specific Bush tax cut to a specific Federal revenue that increased?
j,
October 27, 2008 - 10:48 ET by AgnosticI think what the poster is referring to is the increased revenue created by an expanding economy due to tax cuts and more specifically to tax cuts that effect the investment of capital in a manner that creates new jobs directly or indirectly. Then there is the multiplication effect of various state sales taxes that also increase state revenue when the maket is expanding but that is another issue.
Agnostic:
October 27, 2008 - 13:35 ET by j. frank wilsonLet's say the US government cuts a particular tax 10% - and that increases overall economic production by 10%. Or 20%. Obviously this is a gross simplification, but we have to make our example reasonable.
Taxes on the "new" economic production will be enough to offset the taxes lost on the base economic production.
Economists have tried to draw a straight line between specific Bush Administration tax cuts and specific Federal revenues that have increased. There aren't any.
Finally - and I did post this elsewhere on NB - most people do not realize that the Bush Administration cut income tax percentages within each of the 6 brackets - and then lowered the bracket floors so more people were moved up to the higher bracket.
Naturally, I disagree
October 27, 2008 - 00:05 ET by JudithWhy are the Joshes of the world always so enamored of the glamour of the situation rending them unable to find the facts. Hey, there are no evil terrorists, all countries are our friends if only we talk to them, this country is bad so lets fix it, don't worry about nuclear power defense we don't need it, killing babies is a good sport, we must all be eeeeeeequal, let mr. robinhood steal from the rich and give to the bums, but I trust a guy with NO VERIFIABLE RECORD BUT WHAT HE TELLS ME and no accomplishments. You libs govern your half of the country and leave the rest of us alone. I hate your fake messiah who will eventually end up in a mental ward he is so bent. When you have burned your half, please drop off the ends of the earth!
Republican't
October 26, 2008 - 09:53 ET by CrashThe republicans have the same tools at their disposal as the dempcrats, but, for reasons I cannot begin imagine, they never use them.
Republicans are like a man who's just snapped out of a coma after twenty years. But, he falls back into it for a few weeks at a time and is trying his damnedest to keep up with the news of the day.
This country has a short and feeble memory. The 9/11 brain cell of many an American has shriveled up and died. If the republican party could run on the greatness of Lincoln, it would have guarenteed Bush 88% of the black vote; instead of to Kerry. Nor can today's feckless republicans run on President Reagan's superb record without so much as a backbone. Bush was at his best when he was a rootin' tootin' cowboy.
With the fast pace of information today we have to create a vision, a direction, an image, a confidence that we are fresh, and warm & fuzzy. Instead the republicans are brand X. Sure Model T's are great for collectors, but, I'd hate to drive them every day.
Republicans are not as
October 26, 2008 - 13:18 ET by ahusserRuthless, focused, able to lie as adeptly, as the Democrats. Deep down we don't believe that the end justifies the means as I think our opposition does. We believe that logic and reason will win the day (and is not true and does not ever win the day) and that the scales will come off the opposition's eyes through reasoned discourse. We are enraged that they don't see the warts we see on their candidate: the staging, stonewalling and prevarications. Emotion and irrationality and the "passion" it engenders is a more powerful force for change, it is heady and exciting (even "Revolutionary"). Logic, truth, reason are "boring", uninteresting and really don't matter in this arena and are irrelevant. The Age of Aquarius has been rescucitated and that is powerful stuff.
"...no civilization, no matter how rich, no matter how refined, can long survive once it loses the power to meet force with equal or superior force." - Bernard Knox
Use Plugs
October 26, 2008 - 09:59 ET by DingbatAll the RNC has to do is go non stop clips of Plugs Biden videos commenting on The Messiah from the primary.
Ominous? You Bet!
October 26, 2008 - 10:07 ET by EnDashWith an interest and partcipation in politics since high school days (Eisenhower vs. Stevenson) -- and a degree in Public and International Affairs from Princeton -- this is the very first time in my memory that I have been afraid of a candidate.
As bad as any have seemed to me, because of their policies, or character, Obama is the first who is truly scary.
A virtually nonexistent résumé, a clouded bio, associations and affiliations with all sorts of unsavory characters, including Islamists, racists, anti-Americans, and plain crooks -- added to a thoroughly socialist agenda.
Ominous? You bet! The combo of Obama in the WH and Congreess dominated by far-left Dems is truly frightening to contemplate.
While I agree with you that
October 26, 2008 - 10:17 ET by sherylsimsWhile I agree with you that Obama is very scary, what I find horrifying is the fact that SO MANY people are happy to blindly follow him into the abyss. (Or push him upon us into power). I just don't understand what the great appeal is other than they have all swallowed "The Great Lie" that we are told about in the Bible. That has to be it. It is just so obvious that he is bad bad bad.
sheryl......as it has been said here many times.....
October 26, 2008 - 11:41 ET by BEGRUNT"Cult of Personality" Scary as hell.......how many of these can we refer to in history? Almost all of the turn out badly.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Sunday Funnies - watch this one - it's good
October 26, 2008 - 10:20 ET by Dee BunkObamaween
People, there is MUCH more
October 26, 2008 - 10:23 ET by gregfaheyPeople, there is MUCH more to this than Levin has touched upon. I'll come right out and say it: this is a spiritual battle going on. In Ephesians 6:12 -
"For we wrestle not against
flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against
the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness
in high places."
These powers are most active in the political sphere as it impacts the most. What Levin has seen, and many others like me, is that all attacks against Obama are seemingly nerf darts. Nothing works.
Questions asked of Obama are morphed into attacks on the questioner. Ask Joe the Plumber. The "spread the wealth around" comment concerns nobody. Obama supporters on the web are arguing that taxes are spreading the wealth around and therefore, we are already socialist/Marxist. So hey, why not just embrace it? This is nothing less than twisted satanic logic being used masterfully by the powers and principalities.
Go here and read:
http://www.fulfilled...
Taking Levin's observations further about the Berlin speech, read what this author has unveiled below. This is mind blowing stuff here. But, there is no denying that it is also history. I apologize for the size of this but, read it slowly and digest it. Then, pray for this country.
The Muslim connection is that both his father and step father were
Muslim. It seems quite possible BHO was not born in Hawaii, as claimed,
but in Kenya, with his father’s Muslim family. The BHO people have
refused to turn over his original birth certificate, which is currently
the object of a federal law suit. Why not? Why not just produce it and
make the embarrassing law suit go away? Perhaps because the Hawaiian
certificate would be clearly a forgery. Now, once he is President, then
he will be able to put that issue to bed one way or the other,
considering he will be the most powerful man in the world.
Consider
also that his roommates in college were Muslim, and he followed them to
that Islamist hot bed of Pakistan, for a “vacation.” (And with whose
money, since he was supposed to be so poor?) Until he went on vacation,
he was “Barry.” After he came back, he was “Barack.”
Barack in
Arabic means “blessed.” Barack Obama was originally named “Baraka.” It
is not an African name. It's an Arabic word meaning “blessed” and comes
directly from the Koran. (Hussein is the name of Mohammed’s grandchild,
and means “handsome or lovely one”, and Obama in Swahili – an Arabic
derivative name from the days of slave traders populating the area –
means “bent or crooked one.”)
There is more. As a sitting
senator, he campaigned vigorously for his second cousin, Odinga, in
Kenya. Odinga is a radical Islamist, who has lead violent attacks
against the Christian tribes in Kenya, after seizing power (he lost
that election Obama participated in). Until this violent man of Obama’s
clan came along, Kenya had been an island of tranquility in a sea of
African violence. No more.
Obama’s money man and mentor in
Chicago is a Muslim, and in his biography BHO said if things got ugly
in America against Muslims, he would side with them. Again and again,
we see that Obama is partial to Islam, though the media strains
mightily to hide it. There is even contested evidence that he speaks
Arabic.
Now then, could a Muslim be such a closet believer? Yes,
such duplicity as this is a mainstream belief in Islam, so long as it
is necessary and for Allah’s glory. Would not the chance of becoming
the most powerful man in the world be a fine reason to hide his
religion?
And so if you have a closet Muslim become President,
what does he inherit vis-à-vis the Mideast? First, he inherits from
President Bush a major troop presence in Iraq, and a stunningly massive
“embassy” complex in Baghdad. The “embassy” tells me we have big, long
range plans in this place, a place which any troop who has been there
will tell you is an unappealing, sweltering h---hole. But as a base of
Mideast power, for launching a “peacekeeping” corps into Palestine, and
for controlling the Euphrates, the prophetic gate to Israel, it is
excellent
But what about Israel? He would also inherit a very
mature “peace process” and an Israel nearly desperate to finally stop
the tension and warfare. This is especially true if the peace maker
could prevail on those Muslim messiah-philes in Iran to be nice. The
Israelis must worry constantly of Iranian nukes. Who, they ask, will
teach the Muslims peace? How about a charismatic, liberal American
President, who has the world at his feet, and for some unexplainable
reason, had most all Muslim leaders acclaim him right after he had a
closed-door meeting with them in Turkey?
Next there is the
matter of the second Abomination which causes Desolation (AOD), which
Jesus indicated would be the clear signal of who the AC will be. Recall
in Revelation 2:13 that the provincial city of Pergamum is called the
“seat, or throne, of Satan.” That phrase seems odd there, almost a non
sequiter. But perhaps God was providing an acid test of the AC for us.
Pergamum
was famous for its Temple to Zeus. Christian scholars of Greek
mythology believe Zeus is an “analog”, or another name, for Satan. This
temple was the foremost temple to Zeus in the former Greek empire, and
built by the local king, Eumenes II. Eumenes was a mentor to none other
than Antiochus IV Epiphanes; yes, the very Seleucid king who committed
the first AOD by erecting a statue of Zeus in the Temple and slaying a
pig on the alter in honor of . . . Zeus.
Antiochus was the son
of the Seleucid king defeated by the Romans as their empire spread to
the Mideast. He was a Parthian (Iranian), and ambitious. After his
father’s defeat, being an opportunist, Antiochus went to Rome, seeking
permission to take his father's throne. The area he wanted to rule
included Jerusalem. Yet the Roman Senate did not trust him, and said
no.
But Antiochus was not so easily deterred, and went to
Pergamum to bide his time. There he met Eumenes, who was building his
soon-to-be famous Temple to Zeus. Eumenes became Antiochus’ sponsor, as
Antiochus built his influence and power, until the Roman Senate
relented and made him Seleucid king of the Syrian area. While in
Pergamum Antiochus no doubt worshipped often at the Zeus temple. He was
known for his zealous evangelism for Zeus worship, and who knows what
spiritual infestation occurred there?
He was not only a
worshiper of the Zeus cult, but a brutal man, who so enraged the Jews,
that they rebelled. He defeated them temporarily, and during that time,
committed the AOD.
Fast forward about 2000 years. The German
archeologists are in Pergamum. They approach the Muslim Ottoman rulers
with a proposal to buy this old pagan temple to Zeus, and move it to
Berlin. As we know, Muslims are not fans of any culture but Islam, and
quickly assented. Thus the German spirited (sorry) the entire temple to
Berlin, where they built a massive museum in the 1880’s, restored the
Temple and rebuilt it right in the museum. It became quite famous and
an icon of Greek architecture, recognized by educated people around the
world.
Fast forward again about 50 years. A young Austrian art
aficionado named Adolph Hitler must have been especially enamored of
it. Or at least his first propaganda minister (when Hitler gained
power), Albert Speer, was. Because he and Hitler determined to put on
the most grandiose political theater in history, and the Temple played
a central role. What followed were the infamous Nuremburg speeches,
which were immortalized in the propaganda film “Triumph of the Will.”
Hitler
gave a series of mesmerizing speeches to the assembled masses. It was a
coming out party of a sort, where the world realized this was no
ordinary politician. He seemed imbued with an almost hypnotic ability
to say nothing in particular, but in a way which enraptured the youth.
And he did it while speaking from a replica of Berlin’s most famous
ancient museum piece: The Temple of Pergamum, aka The Temple of Zeus,
aka The Throne of Satan.
Startlingly, Hitler was both a
fanatical hater of Jews, and an ardent admirer of Islam. He felt Islam
had a wonderful martial air to it, and rued the day that Charles Martel
and General Sobieski, about 1000 years apart, twice stopped the Muslims
from over running Europe. He felt the Arabs were clearly inferior to
the Germanic peoples, and that, if the Germanic/Aryan people could have
been marinated in Islam, they would have been much stronger, and so
Islam would have been stronger.
By the way, Hitler’s special
guest in Berlin throughout WWII was the Mufti of Jerusalem, who shared
Hitler’s loathing of the Jews, and later nurtured a young Palestinian
who came to call himself Yasser Arafat.
Fast forward about
another 75 years. Another fascinating and charismatic young politician,
who mesmerizes huge German crowds with rousing speeches, is in Berlin.
His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Obama does something no American
Presidential candidate has ever done, which is give major foreign
policy speeches abroad. His largest, most triumphant speech is in
Berlin where adoring youthful crowds, representing much of Europe,
listen raptly as he says, well, nothing. But he does it so well.
So
did BHO visit the Museum of the Temple of Pergamum in Berlin while he
was there? Presumably he did. As his hosts showed off their city, surly
they must have taken him to their famous museum. Did he see it? If so,
did he receive any spiritual signals, or any power, or any anointing
from the Throne of Satan, like perhaps Hitler and Antiochus before him?
We do not know.
What we do know was that BHO, came back to nail
down the Democratic nomination for President in Denver, Colorado. There
he made a bold, or some said arrogant, decision to accept his party’s
nomination in a massive football stadium, hoping to fill it with up
with 100,000 fans. The numbers were unprecedented for an American
political speech, except for him. This young rock star politician
seemed able to conjure up crowds that size at will.
However,
even his staunch supporters felt uneasy that the stage he demanded to
speak from was rather un-American and pretentious. He wanted to give a
speech from a replica of a Greek building! Jokes about him wearing a
toga ensued, but he pressed on.
As photos of its construction
were spread around the Internet, a Christian author and blogger named
Joel Richardson gained some instant notoriety across the Internet by
demonstrating that this building was a dead ringer for the Temple at
Pergamum. The BHO people made some weak excuses that it represented the
U.S. capitol and White House West Wing combined. But expert scholars
agreed with Richardson; it was a replica of the Temple of Pergamum.
So,
curiously, Obama chose to deliver his rousing political coming-out
speech to the assembled, mostly youthful, masses from a replica of the
Throne of Satan, just like Hitler had done many decades ago. Of course
the oblivious U.S. media had no idea, and wrote Richardson off as a
nut, as their hero – a man certain people across the United States were
openly calling a messiah – hurtled toward his date with destiny.
Chilling.
October 26, 2008 - 11:53 ET by tomchrisThanks "Greg." No need to apologize for the length of your fabulous post. There is a part of me that wants to dismiss all the frightening points as conspiratorial nonsense. I mean, its the Huff n' Puffers and KosKids that are supposed to be unhinged. But clearly, Obama has dabbled in the outer fringes of the american experience- Black Liberation Theology, unrepentant 60's radicalism (terrorism), cold blooded pro-abortion lawmaking, Marxist fueled community organizing... all candy coated with the feel-good Oprah Winfrey brand. Yet, despite all the checkable facts you present, it is waved away by the MSM with a casual indifference the likes I've never seen.
We live in a time where Gov. Palin's Pentacostal beliefs are trashed but oh, don't you dare mock Obama's Muslim middle name! This is an election that, according to wife, is no so much picking a President, but "spirtual warfare."
Thank you greg
October 26, 2008 - 12:12 ET by cocodrieI've been preaching to Josh on his need to read up on history. Your post gave me a good lesson and tells me I need to do some more reading myself.
Strings on a Fiddle
October 27, 2008 - 15:42 ET by semolina_filcherIn a very revealing post, you have summarized the fears of what many Americans (not just conservatives) will experience once this Obamic Admonish-tration gets underway. Never mind the loonies on the left, they will never, ever see the truth behind Barack Odinga and all the various conspiracies they put together to vault him into office. Only then will we all realize that once voted into office, we will all be played like strings on a fiddle.
Ominous
October 26, 2008 - 10:24 ET by TheCynicIt is ominous, but it's something that lefist elements have been building on for years.
Step 1) Convince the people that America is a disaster zone. Everything we do is wrong and evil and corrupt. No evidence is required as long as you repeat it often enough and make a few fictional movies saying the same thing. Some prophecies, such as economic doom, can be self-fulfilling if you try hard enough, as economies are largely driven by perception, and perception can be (and was) manipulated.
Step 2) Bring forth an unknown candidate and claim that he will fix all of these problems (the same problems which either do not exist or were actually created during step 1). Again, no evidence is needed provided you repeat it often enough and provided you can steer this person clear of answering any real questions (this is why Joe the Plumber was such a big deal).
Now the people think there is a huge disaster (there isn't) and they have someone to save them from it (they don't).
Step 3) ???
Germany faced a similar situation once, except their problems were real and their savior was Adolf Hitler. What Barak Obama has in store for us, I can't say. Who can? We don't know the guy.
Just Curious -What's Going to Happen to the Media After This?
October 26, 2008 - 10:50 ET by writeroneCan anyone really trust the media now? If the messiah wins, are they going to question any of his policies, or just automaticall agree with them, saying "Well, Obama said it; therefore, it's good enough me and good enough for this country." What will happen to those who DARE question his policies? Look what happened to the Orlando station - now they are boycotting it? What's next and why isn't anyone questioning it?
This is becoming scary and it seems as if the majority doesn't care or notice.
What's going to have to happen before people snap out of it and realize we might be in some real trouble that we might not be able to get out of?
Terrible to think that way, but that's what it's starting to look like.
While the MSM and the
October 26, 2008 - 10:55 ET by gregfaheyWhile the MSM and the Liberal Left has NO PROBLEM with the one-sided reporting going on now, they will impose the Fairness Doctrine which will quell any dissent.
There is nothing "fair" about the Fairness Doctrine
October 26, 2008 - 11:04 ET by writeroneI thought I heard Limbaugh saying that if/when they try to enact the Fairness Doctrine that it would go through litgation. I might be wrong, but I thought that is what he said.
I just can't imagine everyone being silent if this thing went through. At least I hope not.
There will be a legal battle... but
October 26, 2008 - 12:05 ET by acumenIf the messiah is elected, keep in mind the type of fellow Komrades the lightworker will be nominating to the SCOTUS.
And with a dem controlled congress and senate coupled with a cheerleading media the nominees will be a shoe-in.
Then say buh-bye first amendment...and just to make sure there is no recourse against this sugar-coated tyranny, might as well get rid of that pesky second amendment....and then...
Russia
October 26, 2008 - 19:26 ET by UnsaneYou want a textbook example of what a nation looks like when it does not have an objective media? Where the media is in the tank for ONE man?
Just take a look at Russia.
And let's face it: if Obama loses, he won't be much of a loser. He'll just head on back to the Senate and might take another crack at the Presidency someday. The BIGGEST losers of the election if Obama loses will be the media.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Ominous indeed!
October 26, 2008 - 10:56 ET by c5thenThis is starting to feel like a pre-ordained occurance because when looked at objectively by comparing the policies, ideals, records and resumes of the two candidates...Obama should not stand a chance of getting elected (or of even winning the democrat's primary).
Response
October 26, 2008 - 11:08 ET by writeroneBut no one cares about resumes, experience, etc. It's about CHANGE (and God forbid you disagree, because then you are a racist.)
What kind of change? No one knows and don't even question it!
And that's the terrifying part. Someone we barely know and no one will dare question him just might have one of the most powerful position in the world.
What I don't get is
October 26, 2008 - 11:17 ET by Paul GWhat I dont get is WHY the MSM is sooo in the tank for BOH? Rush has always said, 'follow the money' okay, I'm following the money...the NYT.. down, LAT... down, newspapers in general... down, CBS... down, NBC... down, ABC... down, networks in general... down. Time magazine down..Newsweek....down. MSNBC...not close to FNC, CNN...not close to FNC ok, maybe it's closer than MSNBC, but...
Air America...not close to Rush, Ed Shultz...who?
Larry King....is he still on?, Olbermann...Mathews...
My point is, WHAT is the MSM getting out of this? dwindling circulations, dwindling ratings...
EVEN after BOH is going to 'charge' the MSM to cover his coronation... I don't get it.
If the CEOs of all the above care about the bottom line, and just like Truman said, "the buck stops here" If all the 'reporters', 'pundits', 'news anchors', 'hosts', under their 'watch' is not making money for their companies, ... I don't get it.......
Think George
October 26, 2008 - 11:29 ET by TheAssessorYou're right, they are all going down the tubes. But an enterprising man with an agenda and a lot of money might just want to buy them up after the election. Think George Soros. Then they can report what HE decides. Follow the money...
Barak 0bama - Afraction American
Assessor..
October 26, 2008 - 12:04 ET by Paul GI totally agree. Soros is behind ALOT of this. I remember Rush saying 2 months ago that Soros was SHORTING oil, <I was a floor trader at the CME in the 70s and 80s>, so I know, theres alot more money and faster money to be made to sell 'short' than to 'buy'.
BUT...even though I might agree with you on the overall economy and 'world' views..I dont get the Soros, CEO connection?!?
Roger Ailes, might lean 'right' but he's not a republican... He's out to just make money!!...GOD LOVE HIM FOR THAT... BUT again, <and I know im gonna sound like a liberal> BUT, don't these CEOs of these 'companies' have a moral backbone? how much is enough? So...these CEOs make millions and millions with no morals? I know were on a slippery slope... I'm a smoker...I remember 30 yrs ago, no no no, "We just want to 'limit' smoking on the airplanes", "nothing more".....hmmmm look where we are now! SORRY, getting off message lol but Soros is an evil man but then, how can multi trillionaire CEOs, care about a few more dollars in their pockets than whats going to happen to their <our> Country?
Bottom line is...THESE CEOs ARE NOT MAKING THEIR COMPANIES MONEY!!! or their stockholders.....
McCain loves his country. Obama loves his Ideals.
October 26, 2008 - 11:18 ET by CrashI will plug my nose on election day. Regardless of who wins it's probably going stink for the next four years. McCain's stance on AGW is enough to drive me mad.
I totally agree with Levin.
October 26, 2008 - 11:22 ET by USA4freedomI totally agree with Levin.
The big difference in this election is how the MSM is totally coving for Obama.I have never ever seen the press so totally in the tank for anyone.
The average American does not sit around like we do (political junkies) and read and read. They just look for a little news to make their decision. Take my son, I think that he would watch ESPN 24/7 if he could. I had him down for last weekend, I opened his eyes to Obama. Until then he knew what the MSM has fed him.
I think its time for pitch forks and torches!!
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Easy come, easy go.
October 26, 2008 - 11:38 ET by CrashThen again ... our nation needs to be challenged.
"A republic, madam, if we can keep it!"
There is a scary Harold
October 26, 2008 - 11:37 ET by GrannyGrump42There is a scary Harold Saxon component to the whole thing. But with a twist: I think that the person really pulling the strings may turn out to be Bill Ayers, who has changed his instrument but not his tune:
http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/
Call the men in white coats
October 26, 2008 - 11:41 ET by RackieThe little dude has most likely "jumped the tracks."
Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias
October 26, 2008 - 11:56 ET by maggieqpublicIn light of what has become of the Fourth Estate during this election cycle, the Newsbusters mission statement seems understated and quaint. The MSM (with few exceptions) is nothing more than the living-dead army of the Obama campaign.
Mark Levin is dead-on
October 26, 2008 - 12:06 ET by Clear thinkerMark Levin is dead-on accurate.
I cannot understand, and may never understand this rapture that seems to have overcome many of our citizens. Has the left really re-educated our younger generations to a point of Messiah like worship? They may win the battle, but they will never win the war!
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When Obama comes marchin' home
October 26, 2008 - 12:29 ET by Lame CherryI will post a blog below explaining this in detail more, but Mr. Levin or Newsbusters is too cliche in repeating the same talking points others have blundered upon.
To understand Obama is to understand the mob mentality. He is 3rd world as are his grudge infected followers. Forgive my bluntness but this is Cold Harbor, New Orleans, Inchon. For the people born in the brier patch, we are amused at the Obama mob as are the enemies of the United States as the allies who know what the mob is.
I ask you to behold any American city like New York, Washington, Philadelphia and now listen to my explaining it. Those cities were not built no more than Rome, London, Paris for people.
What do you think I mean by that? Cities were built with wide avenues all concentrating to a central park.
As you do not understand it yet, I will put it in real terms. Cities or cages were constructed with wide herding lanes so rioting mobs would rush to the center AND AT THAT POINT THE ELITE GUARD WOULD CUT OFF THE CHOKE POINT AVENUES with a smaller number of people who understood how to handle weapons and then slaughter the mob in the pretty park or the blood pit.
Let us be frank in this. The worst of this world are found in Russia, Middle East, China, Israel, Europe, Africa. Enemy and friend alike all note Mr. Obama is person to be rolled.
They all deem him someone like Carter they can push around. They know they can push him so far and eventually he will respond with nuclear weapons as he is a 10 year old child.
(If you watched Letterman you saw Obama as the happy child. If you saw John McCain slap him around you saw the pouting 10 year old Barry with the sheen of humiliation on him.)
What I'm formulating here is the people who deal with 3rd world mobs know exactly what the Obama people are as well as Obama.
Barack Obama like Carter is going to be biotch slapped and he will cower. The correct measure and even the degradation will affect David Letterman who will once again lament as he did Clinton, "Well I guess he was just too young and not ready.)
I honestly believe though if Letterman survives a nuclear attack on New York which is coming he will fly out with radiation sickness and be making that statement from Paris as where all the Obama survivors will flee to.
That is the point in this. Obama has a mob, no different than Barabas's chanting mob in Christ's time riled up by the officials in power.
Sting this mob and they will snarl and come at you. Slap them down hard and they will flee as the cowards they are as their is no pride in them nor honor in standing as a real Soldier possesses.
This is why I noted Cold Harbor, Inchon and New Orleans as battles. Those battles made seasoned veterans smile as they just hoped the enemy would throw something at them as the Soldier would chew them up and spit them out.
American enemies know this. Chew up a few American soldiers by polluting a theater like the Middle East with a few nuclear bombs and Pelosi with Obama will be screaming WITHDRAW.
Then the fun begins for the enemy as they can really sting Obama in ways to humilate him, but not enough for a nuclear strike.
Understand that once Obama uses nuclear weapons the cat is out of the bag for attacks on America and it is no longer a worry for thug states as Obama isn't going to use cobalt or H bombs. No he will implement kinder and gentler Colin Powell warfare which will leave the thugs survive for another attack.
The word is not ominous. The word is disasterous for what is coming. Brzezinski wants to shake it up baby just like he did with Carter and Obama is even more inept than Carter. See Carter had that idiotic "faith" hampering him and Obama has that retarded "anger" driving him.
George W. Bush had faith and used it masterfully well in striking in knowing how to use weaponry. Obama thinks weaponry is a diplomatic measure when your diplomacy fails.
I will believe in the best though that God will save America from itself in choosing John McCain and Sarah Palin.
It is a warning though if not, that if Americans are left to their own devices and Barack Obama is installed in stealing this election, it is a conclusion that God has abandoned this state to a humiliation never seen before in our entire Joseph history. God has never allowed ever a person like Obama to rule over his people.
This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with what is termed a foreigner. To explain Michelle Malkin who I'm not the most tolerant of is American as Joe the Plummer. Bill Clinton though a horrid person at times is still American by birthright.
America threw off the British kings and that is the lineage Obama is of as a British subject.
I realize King David of the Bible his grandmother was Moab, but she was still an Israelite by taking on the traditions of the people.
Obama has rejected the American tradition for a Marxist European and Asian tradition. I leave black out as Obama is no more black than George Bush in character.
Jesse Jackson is black and he is a socialist, but he is still an American and suits the office of the President. This is as I said not about race nor creed. This is about lineage. If America is allowed to go it's own way and install a literal non American, this is a thing which has never happened and it will note extreme trouble from the Spiritual position as this guy and his followers mock God in calling him the messiah.
This happens and it is concluded this nation is cast off no matter the few million devout Christians who have held it together. There will be lamentation, mourning and woe.
You can not put Nimrod on the throne mocking God in constructing his own tower of Babel before God will definitely come along and consume it as His Perfection will not allow such a thing.
Just read the story of Herod Agrippa in his silver robe which shone like God and the mob screamed of him as God. God saw it and God killed Herod Agrippa on the spot.
In most cases it is not God acting that surgical. In most cases God withdraws and all hell breaks loose on that nation as it is the people who installed the blasphemy and they are responsible.
That is why I have pleaded with Clinton Democrats to save the Clintons from themselves in a grab for power when Obama is impeached which will rip this nation apart.
PUMA voters simply vote for McCain, put Stenny Hoyer into contol of the House and Hillary in the Senate and they can fix this problem and keep the attack from happening which Biden noted is coming.
A Conservative does not have to agree with Hoyer, but a Conservative can note he is an American who has played fair as Tip O'Neill did with Reagan.
I know the small mind will not understand what I said about Obama. One side will think they heard he is inferior and the other will think they heard race attack. This is a Spiritual matter in a manner of birthright. Chinese don't elect Kenyans to their throne and Kenyans do not elect Americans. There is a national birthright to this and if the mob violates this they are the ones who will be consumed by it as history proves.
Obama like Churchill whose mother was American is a person to be Prime Minister of England, but his birthright is not of a United States President.
agtG 227
Comrade General ObamaNo one as usual has decided it important enough for our United States
Soldiers to actually examine what the Barack Obama policy means when he
says he is going to make the military equal in drafting both girls and
boys.
What I would like to ask Obama parents and Obama college
students to contemplate in equality means YOU are going to be in a
draft to serve in the United States Military.
This means you are not going to hide in college. You will have no choice. You are going to serve in the United States military.
Mr.
Obama has stated he will allow also other types of service which means
a very broad draft will occur from not just a few thousand to hundreds
of thousands of college age people in some type of service.
The
service that liberals worship is the peace corps as an example. I want
people to understand that the world in Africa, Asia and South America
is not the world of John Kennedy sending kids out to do jobs like
building things out of mud, digging ditches, living without running
water and eating canned food.
Oh you thought the peace corps was
some romantic thing? No you Obama voters are going to be enlisted in a
peace corp where you are not going to be sitting at home on summer
vacation nor going off to Mexico on spring break. No for your service
to America, you are going to be in areas of malaria, aids, the wonder
of communist and terrorists who will love snatching you for ransom
against American policy where you can sit for the next 5 years in a one
room cell either being raped if you are a female or beat for being a
male.
As that probably doesn't sound so romantic, perhaps being
a Soldier might be what you like as Obama says he is bringing American
forces home and only dispatching 2 brigades to Afghanistan.
Hey
I hope you are now saying! Wait a minute, if Obama is bringing all
these troops home what on earth is he going to be drafting hundreds of
thousands of kids into service for?
Exactly my Obama friends. What is your messiah building an military for?
I
have a clue for you children and parents of Obama, politicians never
build an army unless they intend to use it. Remember Joe Biden speaking
of Mr. Obama is going to be tested? Well, you children of Obama are
going to be the fodder for that test.
To give you Obama voters in
the service making the biggest mistake of your lives in voting for
Obama early a heads up, in the 6 month nuclear window Biden is speaking
about for a confrontation with the Eurasians, you are not coming home
but are sitting on the front lines of the next Obama war which will
cross nuclear swords as Biden used the Kennedy example.
I doubt
any of that resonates with Obama voters and won't learn until they feel
what it is like to die under the beloved leader, so it serves the
purpose to ask just what kind of military are you going to be dying in
for Obama?
Don't make the mistake in thinking you are going to
enter into the service which has kept homosexuals out of the elite
corps of fighting, but you Obama conscript are going to enter not the
World War II generation of moral Christian heroes but the military of
draftees of Vietnam.......not the volunteers of the current Ronald
Reagan military who are the finest despite the infection of the Clinton
years.
So Obama draftee and voter, what are you going to find in
your group. Why other people just like you. People who can not take
orders, people who can not think for themselves, people who have no
hunting, firearms, outdoor skills and people who loathe the military.
At
this point, Obama draftee you need to understand the pecking order. In
the current military, there are the Army CIB's and Marines. (CIB stands
for combat soldiers). This is the elite group and you won't get to
serve in them nor the flyboys of the Air Force or the nice ships of the
Navy.
Those are thee United States Soldiers.
Next up are
the flaps, the kp, the seaboy toilet scubbers and all the other
malcontents who get flushed out of basics to do the crap jobs every day
and if an Obama war comes, that group gets to go out and die so the
real Soldiers are in reserve for real battles after an invasion.
Don't worry though Obama draftee as you aren't in that group either.
Next
up are the weekend warriors. They are allot like the flaps, kp and
seaboy ranks as they spend most of their time blanking up or blanking
each other. Yes the blanking is the F word and there is all sorts of
sex in those ranks which makes it horrid for the few good Soldiers
stuck there, but Obama draftees this is the group of Americans you
think yourself superior to.
But don't worry Obama draftee as you aren't good enough for this group either.
Obama
draftee you are in the lowest group called conscripts. Let your
favorite mantra of Vietnam Democratic draftees be your guide.
Your
officers are going to be John Kerry, you remember John as your parents
voted for this hero who got a Purple Heart for getting a scratch, got a
Purple Heart for throwing a grenade into a pile of rice which the rice
shrapnel hit his butt and got a Purple Heart just because the Navy
wanted to be rid of him.
Don't think Kerry is so inspirational now even as he greased a Vietcong kid?
How
about Colin Powell your Obama shot heard round the world who was so not
combat savvy he stepped in a hole with pointy sticks in it to get his
Purple Heart.
Sorry Obama draftee as that is your class of officers
as the real Soldiers are off with the real Soldiers and you get the Wes
Clark political appointments who think you should be cuddling up with
homosexuals understanding them and want to bomb the Russians just over
the hill so you can have nukes rain down on your head.
Wait it
gets better Obama draftee. You know those drugs you all appreciate like
your dope head messiah? Well think of this miracle now. You will be
surrounded by 23 other people smoking weed or the other local high and
they will have automatic machine guns, grenades and won't in their
stoned nature if you are the enemy or a friend.
They might frag you
in your tent or they might frag officer Kerry while you are out on
patrol leaving you without a leader just like in Vietnam, as they like
you haven't thought that far ahead.
Sort of like voting for Obama now you haven't thought that far ahead.
Remember
now those pictures you saw of real Soldiers you mocked. it is you who
is going to have your limbs blown off, scorched looking like a burn
victim, some kind understanding enemy Obama thinks he can talk with
might even torture you with real torture you for days, drag you around
behind a car, piss on you, set you on fire, chop your head off and then
hang you for all the world to see for a conversation.
That is
your Obama destiny in peace corp or Army corp, and, the nicest,
sweetest, tastiest part about being in Obama corp Obama draftee is once
they got you, they got you until you are 65 years old.
That is the
way the military works. They have you once, they are going to call you
up any time a Democrat decides to send you to the new Korea, Vietnam or
Kosovo...........I wouldn't worry though too much about that as your
messiah speaks of using nuclear bombs and as you will be in that
theater eating radioactive dust and not being able to leave or you will
be shot, you will probably be dead of some cancer in 10 years.
Kind of a catchy phrase though isn't it Obama draftee?
Voted for Obama at 21 and dead from cancer at 31.
Maybe they can put that on your tombstone.
See
there isn't going to be any Bill Ayers raping Jewish girls and blowing
up things in America for Obama supporters as all those jobs are taken
by the power people and you know Joe Biden's kid isn't serving in
combat, but in an Al Gore fluff job. Sorry, but you won't get the fluff
job either.
You will though serve your Obama in whom you voted
for till your dying day as your life expectancy if he steals this
election is going to be lower than the 3rd world at dead at 21 or the
long life of cancer death at 31.
Don't worry about lingering in
cancer treatment though as only the elites like in England and Canada
get that as there is only so much money with Obama's Mexican illegals
of 20 million he has to answer to as he is giving them the vote will be
who he will be saving and not you.
4th class conscript dying of Obama nuclear war cancer or second class peace corp conscript dying from malaria or a tapeworm.
Enjoy your vote Obama draftee and the service you will soon find out you signed your life away for.
Don't
worry about the McCain voters though as they taught their kids to shoot
guns so they will be in the elite units as the military loves them and
their parents, so they will live as they know how to survive and are an
asset to the American nation.
Comrade General Obama thanks you for your lives and I thank you Obama voters for your service.
agtG
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thats alot of typing LC..
October 26, 2008 - 13:07 ET by Paul GBut...'WE' as Americans are to blame .
Reagan Carter obviously not a comparsion
Bush Mondale '88 ..... THERE WAS OUR DOWNFALL!!! just as in '92 '96 '00 '04 All 'WE' 'God fearing . liberty loving, gun toting Americans', have had to 'vote' for is the lesser of two evils....
I was never a fan of GHB...or GWB, but that's what we had.
I'm all for the war, terrorism blah blah blah..but....spend spend spend....trying 2 get along with the MSM..... not getting what'ever' message out to the American people...blah blah blah
IF?!? <and thats a 'lol'> around in 2012 I vote PALIN/PALIN!!!!!!!!
"I know the small mind
October 27, 2008 - 15:52 ET by semolina_filcher"I know the small mind will not understand what I said about Obama. One side will think they heard he is inferior and the other will think they heard race attack. This is a Spiritual matter in a manner of birthright. Chinese don't elect Kenyans to their throne and Kenyans do not elect Americans. There is a national birthright to this and if the mob violates this they are the ones who will be consumed by it as history proves."
I now very well this is in the Constitution of the United States: You must be a natural-born American. Never in the US Constitution did it say a Kenyan, Chinese, British, or a citizen of the world can run for office as President of the United States of America. I'll keep harping on this even if Barack is "elected". Can't run away from a cause...
Allow me to harp right
October 27, 2008 - 15:57 ET by Clear thinkerAllow me to harp right along with you!
Obama’s True Agenda
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Attack
October 26, 2008 - 13:39 ET by JDWUS helicopters attacking Iraqi border
Obama wants to make friends and meet with the terrorists?
JDW
DAILY WAVE
'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'
Is the Community Reinvestment Act part of free enterprise
Obama added a work requirement to his proposal
ABSOULTELY, Mark Levin is right!
October 26, 2008 - 14:22 ET by PrairieSky"This is ominous stuff." Ominous is the perfect word to describe what is going on, and what is coming if Obama is elected. So many of us here at NB have written and warned of the exact same things that Levin addresses in his article. Obama has packaged himself as a "new" kind of politician. New is right...New to American politics...He's not a Democrat, Republican or an Independent. He's a Socialist, and his intent is to remake America into what he believes America should be, but isn't.
The cult-like atmosphere that Levin says surrounds Obama is, I think, especially dangerous. Like with any cult, its believers and adherents are blind and deaf to the truth about the cult figure. And Obama's supporters have totally bought into this atmosphere and he has done everything he can to encourage it...Levin reminds us about the rally in Berlin, the ludicrously overdone acceptance speech venue at the Democratic convention, the Obama presidential seal, the adoring schoolchildren singing a song about their "Dear Leader", and now we're hearing about the huge, lavish victory celebration/coronation locale being constructed at Grant Park in Chicago.
I've seen deep devotion to and respect for a political candidate before...In my lifetime Kennedy and especially Reagan were both beneficiaries of such deep feelings from their supporters. But, I've never seen anything like what has surrounded Obama, and it is absoutely inexplicable to me. I cannot fathom what it is about him that inspires such emotion. Sure, he's an exceptional speaker(though he doesn't really say anything), but so what? Many politicians have been exceptional speakers, and yet they haven't engendered such an almost fanatical following as Obama has. I suppose it isn't as important to understand why he seems to elicit such support, as it is to counter it.
As for myself, I can say with certainty that if Obama wins this election, the why's of his victory will remain a mystery to me.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Not after a Summer of
October 26, 2008 - 15:18 ET by ckc1227Not after a Summer of record high gas prices, especially when combined with the popular theory that "Bush is lowering gas prices to help Republicans" that far too many ignorant people(Obama voters, which makes sense) are willing to buy into hook, line and sinker.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Hook line and sinker?
October 26, 2008 - 15:41 ET by jeffroKinda like when a bunch of republican voters bought into everything this administration told them,Without question? Kinda like that?
Exactly whom would that be?
October 26, 2008 - 15:48 ET by BlondeCan you name any?
I can't....I have never met a republican who's been totally in love with any of our Presidential candidates or their platform(s). And you, of course, have.
So time to put up.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
So time to put up.
October 26, 2008 - 16:15 ET by jeffroSo, Some on here have NOT defended and accepted this administrations EVERY policy, and action without any question of it's outcome? That's not intellectualy honest. I have read this blog for six years. Many on here bought the policy, AND defened it to the hilt. Without question. Can you Point me to ONE regular one here that was doing their civic duty and Questioned this Govt. and the rationale of it's decisions and unprecedented secrecy?
6 years huh???
October 26, 2008 - 16:42 ET by BEGRUNTMust of spent the first three non existant years looking through a crystal ball genius. Your statement just proves your a troll.....probably the first time here to toss a handgrenade like all the other trolls.....where you from, Kos, DU, Huff & Puff??? Nice try moonbat.......look into the history of the site before making an ass out of yourself.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Sorry1
October 26, 2008 - 16:52 ET by jeffroMy Mistake. You are right. I don't know how long this site has been up, but it seems like six years :-) My deepest apologies. I am not a troll. Just a simple Patriot that questions govt., instead of accepting every thing they want to do.
That has to be the lamest
October 26, 2008 - 17:48 ET by bloolooThat has to be the lamest excuse for an outright lie and apology I have ever seen or heard. "I don't know" and "It seems like"...
Sorry dude, but, everything you say here from now on will be taken with the knowledge it has been provided by a proven liar. "Just a simple Patriot" my ass...
bloo and BEGRUNT...Great job...
October 26, 2008 - 18:19 ET by PrairieSkyfor calling this guy on his oh so obvious and transparent BS...For someone who made a point of mentioning in his post how long he's been a reader of NB, you'd think he'd at least know how long NB has been around.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Jefro...Here's one!!!
October 26, 2008 - 18:27 ET by TheSterImmigration "reform" = Amnesty Bill.
Check my post from 6 years ago...I'm sure you will find more examples.
Ster.
Very interesting, jeffro
October 26, 2008 - 20:12 ET by BlondeReading this blog for six years, eh? That's kind of strange, inasmuch as it's only been in existence since August 2005. Ergo sum, I'm tossing the bs card right in your face.
You don't get to even attempt to flip the argument until you've answered my challenge, which of course you can't do, and I should have known you wouldn't even try. Talk about intellectually dishonest. Go look in the mirror jeff.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
rofpmsl
October 26, 2008 - 20:47 ET by candanceYou've been reading NB for six years!! Priceless!
And you contend that no one on here complains about Bush? Please take the time to read my track on my profile. I have routinely complained about the PATRIOT Act, NCLB, immigrant amnesty, and some of Bush's more inane appointments.
You sir are the one who is intellectually dishonest.
Cult like atmosphere? It may appear that way.
October 26, 2008 - 16:00 ET by jeffroI can't speak to that, other than people are very excited about a change of policy .As far as this goes:"I can't help but observe that even some conservatives are caught in the
moment as their attempts at explaining their support for Barack Obama
are unpersuasive and even illogical.." This piece I will link to was very logical and persuasive to me and some others. History will show: Conservatives can and will blame this administation for the fraud it really is and really the cause of the fall of the GOP. A Conservative for Obama | D Magazine - Dallas Fort Worth's Resource for City Guides, Daily Blogs, D Bests, and Restaurants
A quickie Sunday Shrub
October 26, 2008 - 16:06 ET by Roger the ShrubberA quickie Sunday Shrub Report…
The UN issues “strongly-worded letters”. The IMF? Scoldings!
It’s time, once again, for Jihadi Bloopers!
She was a Paulbot? OOOHHHHHH, that explains it…
Put on your pantsuits, people. Hillary turns 61 today!
CNN, as usual, is full of shit.
Shocking News Story of the Day! Obama secures wife-beater trailer-trash white boy douche vote!
Wait a minute. I thought this only happened in Paris?
In case you have not heard yet, read this about the potential future of our 401K’s.
Today’s Religion of Peace Update.
Teamster thug governor pretends to care, vows to drive same $40k Caddy DTS for a second year. Such sacrifice!
Finally, on this date in 1881, Kurt Russell and Kevin Costner, with the help of Dennis Quaid and Val Kilmer, shot up a bunch of McLaurys and Clantons in a crappy silver town in Arizona.
Great work as always Rog!
October 26, 2008 - 18:20 ET by Free StinkerGreat work as always Rog! :-)
If Uh-uh-uhbama gets elected, your Schrub report will become more needed than ever!
"Dewey defeats Truman!" --Chicago Truibune, 1948
OBAMA is a disaster and will always be so.
October 26, 2008 - 16:50 ET by CTAt the risk of parsing my words, I for one have nothing but contempt for Obama and anyone that supports him. In the event that America does make an awful left turn I have no intention of refraining from pointing out the stupidity of it at every opportunity.
If Obama wins this election..
October 26, 2008 - 18:29 ET by MrDebaterthere is only one rational explanation...we are in the end times...the aztec calender ends in 2012...the same date that Obama's first term will end...I'm gettin' ready for the day I'll leave here with Jesus...it should only take Obuumer 4 years to destroy this place...
Obama will blunder us into a nuclear exchange
October 26, 2008 - 18:44 ET by Free StinkerObama will blunder us into a nuclear exchange with Pakistan. He said he would put US troops in there, then the Gov't. of Pakistan falls, then he new Pakistani regime detonates a nuke of our troops in Pakistan, and we have to slaughter Millions in retaliation.
I'm not so sure China and Russia would stand still while this is happening either . . .
"Dewey defeats Truman!" --Chicago Tribune, 1948
Philip Berg on video regarding the BHO birth cert. lawsuit...
October 26, 2008 - 17:57 ET by bloolooHere is a video of the man IN HIS OWN WORDS who has filed the lawsuit against Barack Obama concerning his citizenship. It is not "some say" or "I heard"... This is Philip Berg spelling it out in plain English. Please, take the time to watch if you want to know the truth about it...
Fellow NBers, MAN YOUR BATTLE STATIONS!
October 26, 2008 - 19:26 ET by R D HelmIt appears we have been boarded by a medium-sized force of Obamatons!
LOL-Shoot staight, ya' hear?
-Dave
In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.
Obama's Internet Shock Troops
October 26, 2008 - 19:33 ET by Free StinkerI've said it before.
It's Obama's Internet Shock Troops!
The real shock will be for them when they realize just one of our "girls"[1] can defeat them all single-handedly. ;-)
[1] Ladies actually, but Libs seem to be mysogynistic and have low self-esteem so it hurts them more when we announce that they will "Lose to a girl"
"Dewey defeats Truman!" --Chicago Tribune, 1948
No worries, Free
October 26, 2008 - 20:14 ET by BlondeWe "girls" are happy to oblige in the troll-stomping fun.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
MCCAIN WINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 26, 2008 - 20:26 ET by MrShyThe 2008 Presidential Dance-Off
Btw, who are all these new trolls? I saw one on another thread, but I'm hearing about a whole slew....
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Let's Consider this a WARM UP.
October 26, 2008 - 20:38 ET by TheSterAfter Obama shuts down talk radio...
...guess where he's coming next!!!
Ster.
B
October 26, 2008 - 20:33 ET by Free Stinker:-)
"Dewey defeats Truman!" --Chicago Tribune, 1948
J.....you are by far one of the.......
October 26, 2008 - 20:52 ET by BEGRUNTgreatest "Troll Stomper", we have....... :-)
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
BEG,
October 26, 2008 - 21:02 ET by R D HelmJ is far and away the best troll stomper we have here. :-)
-Dave
In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.
Why thank you gentlemen!
October 26, 2008 - 21:07 ET by BlondeI was sharpening the points on my boots....
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Aye..
October 27, 2008 - 15:55 ET by semolina_filcherAye Cap'n....
I'm offended by the references to a "cult-like" Obama following.
October 26, 2008 - 20:28 ET by Mike BrattonGravely offended, I tell you.
There's nothing "cult-like" in the Obama movement. The more I see of it, the more I read of what they write, and the more I know of what they do, it is overly conservative (pardon the pun) to refer to the Obama movement as "cult-like."
It is an out-and-out cult. Plain and simple.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
I live in a heavily
October 26, 2008 - 20:32 ET by ckc1227I live in a heavily Democrat-leaning small town, and in the local paper today, there were 6 letters to the editor on the issue of politics. All 6 were making the case.....against Obama.
Take that for what you will.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Well, New Jersey has gone
October 26, 2008 - 20:38 ET by Free StinkerWell, New Jersey has gone Democrat every year since 1992, but I have only seen one Obama yard sign in Northern New Jersey. Not sure what that means either . . .
"Dewey defeats Truman!" --Chicago Tribune, 1948
I was in Austin over the weekend
October 26, 2008 - 22:07 ET by RESTLESS 1And to no surprise, there were tons of obama signs, (it is Moscow on the Colorado after all.), but I doubt very seriously that Texas is in play. I'm looking for encouragement, but also taking everything with a grain of salt.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Rt...Welcome to my corner of HELL!!
October 26, 2008 - 22:20 ET by TheSterI live here.
Austin is a Sanctuary City and Proud Location of Yearly Kos 2008.
I'm in North Austin and don't see to many Obama stickers on cars.
Central Austin is a different story I'm sure.
Ster.
Ster,
October 26, 2008 - 22:31 ET by RESTLESS 1I was thinking of you over the weekend, being there and all.
The area where I saw the most was on and just off of Balcones in what looked like a pretty affluent part of Austin on the West side of MOPAC. There were some to the East of MOPAC as well in the area of 35th street, heading to an past Lamar.
That area West of MOPAC reminded me of the Olmos Basin here in San Antonio. Ritzy man. LOL.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
you have a weblink to the
October 27, 2008 - 15:58 ET by semolina_filcheryou have a weblink to the paper? Thanks.
Early Voting stats in Colorado look promising for McCain
October 26, 2008 - 22:01 ET by JayTeeFreeRepublic has the Colorado analysis . . . very close
MUST READ
October 26, 2008 - 22:09 ET by marvlHERE'S A VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE:
http://james4america.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/judge-surrick-received-the-decision-he-issued/
Insteresting statistic I
October 26, 2008 - 22:20 ET by ckc1227Insteresting statistic I just heard: only 20% of voters have heard of Jeremiah Wright, Obama's racist pastor of 20 years. And McCain won't bring him up so the other 80% can learn about him.
Amazing....
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Why is Odumba secretive
October 26, 2008 - 22:49 ET by JudithMy theory about Odumba's secrecy is very simple....he is not a natural born US citizen. Mr. Berg knows. This would explain burning the paper trail. Odumba needs a pysch eval in my opinion, not only is he a meglomaniac but we need to know a. if he is really unbalanced and thinks he is king or b. is this the biggest con job that has ever gone down. BTW, has anyone seen the naked porno pics of Odumba's mother on You Tube (I think it was You Tube) I was so astounded that I forgot to book mark it? It is her, her face is clearly turned toward the camera and she is in positions that I cannot, as a lady, describe. Why hasn't this been mentioned by anyone??
Judith:
October 27, 2008 - 08:22 ET by j. frank wilsonNo one is mentioning it because its meaningless.
Turn off your computer. Go down to the store. Get a clue.
It's The 4th Quarter And We're Down But. . .
October 27, 2008 - 00:15 ET by Asian ConThe Game Is Not Over Yet!!! You know, reading this thread and watching Fox News Sunday today, you would think that the election is over. That the outcome was inevitable. I mean, even, Brit Hume and Bill Kristol had their shoulders hunched and just looked defeated. I, still, believe that the PUMAs are going to be the deciding factor. BTW, any one here know what side of the aisle Chris Wallace is on. He's really starting to annoy me, as of late? He seems to badger the conservative pundits and candidates and let the liberals spew their talking points.
IF Obama wins, and, God forbid, the unthinkable happens.(A terrorist attack on our soil) Do you think the MSM could be held accountable as complicit accomplices? After all, they didn't do their job and vet this candidate. They ignored his connections with radical and anti-American associates. They conspired to push their Manchurian Candidate on the American public.
The important thing to remember is: GET OUT AND VOTE ON NOV. 4TH! Bring everybody you can to the voting booths. Don't let the MSM depress you into not voting. Ignore the polls.
"What do Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden have in common? They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon." - Rush Limbaugh
C A... it is over
October 27, 2008 - 00:43 ET by Paul Gand yes , I'm the NBers pessimist, but it is what it is...We got 2 except the fact. Am I happy about it? nooo. I've said a million times on this site, We can put our heads in the sand...but the answers not gonna change..<flashback> Rush '92...."dont listen to the polls" I was young and dumb...and naive back then...no more.. I dont wanna hear about 2000 and GWB...and how he was gonna lose, by the MSM...Its a different story now.
From Drudge: Obama
October 27, 2008 - 00:56 ET by ckc1227From Drudge:
Obama shocker: Warren Court not radical enough. "Tragedy that wealth redistribution not pursued"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
What Obama Meant to Say
October 27, 2008 - 03:03 ET by dark_dsWhat Obama meant to say is not that he wont look like the folks on the currency but that he wont act like them
Special Obama flags?
October 27, 2008 - 08:20 ET by j. frank wilsonIs the Pitiful One referring to the state flag of Ohio?
He's a classic example of the Dunning Kruger effect...
Here's what Obama
October 27, 2008 - 16:05 ET by Clear thinkerHere's what Obama means... Obama’s True Agenda
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
Culto de Obama
October 27, 2008 - 16:07 ET by semolina_filcherNeil Cavuto: Anyone not Obama-wowed, gets Obama powed.
Monkey Man on FNC...again
October 27, 2008 - 16:24 ET by semolina_filcherBill Burton on FoxNews again blaming the news channel for airing Obama;'s wealth redistribution comments he made back in 2001. Megyn Kelly already chewing his filthy, rotten derriere! I'm hoping someone please post a video of this exchange. Megyn to Mr. Burton: "When you attack, I'll be there"
"Obey Obama.."
October 27, 2008 - 17:05 ET by semolina_filcherSomething tells me: When Lord Obama becomes President of the World, the economic news will be less grim, even become "favorable". The lame street media will spin it and offers opines how the economy's getting better and no more (maybe less) mention of the $700B handout. The sun will start shining more brightly, less CO2 will emanate, the Arctic and Antarctic ice mass will begin forming again therefore staying "in its place" as global warming will begin to cease. The polar bears will return to their natural habitat, no more of these bear cubs will be seen standing on thin ice.
Lord Obama's admonish-tration will result in peoples of the world coming together. The Al-Qaedas, the Talibans, the Hamas, Hezbollahs will hold hand-in hand with the NoKors, the Iranians, the Venezuelans, even the Russians and the South Ossetians. Since America will become a socialist country under his regime, America will have a new role in this Changing World by Obama. The countries that formerly hate us will embrace us--the countries we're formerly allied with will despise US. But oil prices will shot up yet again, confirming the fears that dropping oil prices is just an election tool, leading many of us to believe the drop is permanent. We will eventually end up paying $10/ gallon gas, that is if our cars hadn't been nationalized for public use. We will be fooled again and again. ACORN will now be called Advancing Communism On Republics and Nations.
The lame street media will tout Obama's agenda for the "betterment" of the world. Turncoat "conservatives" like Ken Adelman, Charles Fried, Colin Powell, Kathleen Parker, Peggy Noonan and company will have their say, learning the Mantra: Obey Obama, Obey Obama.....blah blah blah....
Meanwhile Karl Marx, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Karl Engels, Saul Alinsky, Che Guevara, et al, will all be smiling on the sidelines. Then, the National Security Force begins disarming the once-powerful US military and starts rounding up the citizens. Sounds like a social/science fiction film? It's not...it is what it will be when you don't vote your conscience on November 4. Otherwise the US Constitution will cease become the "law of the land".