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Let's get the predictions in writing, folks:

  • Who will win tonight?
  • Who will make the biggest gaffe?
  • Will Ifill be fair, or clearly hit Sarah with tougher questions?
  • Will the candidates' performances be irrelevant as whatever happens media will declare Biden the winner?
  • Will anything significant happen tonight that will impact the election, or are vice presidential debates totally inconsequential? 
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Cynthia McKinney

This is a bit off target but I had to bring it up. Seems McKinney has found someone that claims that over 5000 prisoners where shot and killed in the Katrina aftermath. Folks we can't make this stuff up. Link to the video.  

"Stupid only comes second in the short list of what one can reasonably expect from a Democrat." The Dissident Frogman (France)

McKinney is NUTS!!!!!

Will the only person left in America who doesn't know that Cynthia McKinney is NUTS please stand up?

The only reason people elect her to national office is to get her the heck out of GEORGIA!!!!!  Maybe she could run for President with Jimmy Carter as her running mate? Then we could get both of them out of Georgia... 

Not being from GA I thought

Not being from GA I thought that she was one step from being looney. After seeing that video she has removed any doubt that I had.

"Stupid only comes second in the short list of what one can reasonably expect from a Democrat." The Dissident Frogman (France)

Being from GA...

She's not one of our most prized natural resources, but we ARE open to export!

Guys, McKinney now resides in California.

Which suits this Georgia boy just fine.  :-)

-Dave

Fear makes people do weird things....it makes their brains stop working. - Dave Ramsey

My troll fuse length today: 0.5cm

Dave---

I am surprised that dippy doo did not tell us these were the 5000 people who planted the explosives in the WTC buildings.

I think I will only drink bottled water here in GA for a while. I did not know she moved to CA. Gloiry hallelujah, now if only Cynthia Tucker would join her--we would have an even better state to live in.

misterbill,

LOL-Make sure that bottled water didn't come from California. I mean, you might cause an outbreak here of whatever it is that seems to afflict a large segment of the population in that state.

-Dave

Fear makes people do weird things....it makes their brains stop working. - Dave Ramsey

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Would I be--

Would I be--in trouble if I said she sounds articulate???

 She has stood the shock treatments rather well.

 

Gee, thanks Dave.....

like we need anymore wingnuts out here in CA....LOL  ;-) 

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He would stand up, but Joe Biden couldn't heal Chuck Graham. 

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Thank God Cynthia McKinney moved far away from Georgia.

Its just too bad she didn't take Jihad Jimmy with her.

-Dave

Fear makes people do weird things....it makes their brains stop working. - Dave Ramsey

My troll fuse length today: 0.5cm 

RD... Is she still living

RD...

Is she still living on Mars?

Fear And Loathing Of Sarah Palin

 

 

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Ct,

Yep.

California.  :-^)

-Dave

Fear makes people do weird things....it makes their brains stop working. - Dave Ramsey

My troll fuse length today: 0.5cm

That's what I

That's what I thought.

Fear And Loathing Of Sarah Palin

 

 

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it all comes together

Ok its all starting to come together .... first Bush blows up the levees to cause the flood (hates black people)... wait before that they seeded the clouds to make Katrina stronger... then  they go and kill 5000 prisoners because one of the prisoners knew the truth about 9/11 and he was silenced.  But because the Government needed all the information about each dead criminal they entered it into a data base so they could have these dead criminals vote for MC Cain in Ohio if need be.  Damn I figured it out I am in danger there is a black van at the end of my street

O-Biden will be smug and

O-Biden will be smug and arrogant, and Palin will be her real, down-to-earth self.  The moderators will be tougher on Palin, but she can take it.  Biden will look like the snob he is and Palin will look like she should be Prez candidate, not the VP.

The media will declare Biden the winner - or have they already declared that..?

Matt

You're so right. Biden will be the winner and Ifill will have been fair according to the MSM especially AP.  

"Stupid only comes second in the short list of what one can reasonably expect from a Democrat." The Dissident Frogman (France)

The AP already has their

The AP already has their story written and poll results recorded. "Biden clear winner; Obama surges 5 points in the polls. Moderator a model of objectivity. Anybody who disagrees will simply be ignored."

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You're probably right...

I was thinking about this the other day...The MSM probably have their rough drafts, if not the final drafts of their reviews of tonight's debate already written. Why waste time waiting to see what actually happens when their minds are already made up that Biden's the winner?  

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981

Ignoring Biden Bungles

The FOX headline this morning focused on yet another Biden tall tale, forced down in Iraq.

Palin's achievements are incredible yet hidden by the news media. Consider what she did with energy in Alaska.

The libs are themselves concerned about Biden. Imagine if the news media had been front paging the truth about Biden all along.

JDW


DAILY WAVE

'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'

Biden will probably

Biden will probably win.

Biden will easily make the biggest gaffe.

How can Ifill be considered fair now that we know about her pro-Obama book?

While I believe a small percentage of the population really cares about VP debates, the rest of us could give a rat's butt.

Sarah Palin will somehow be made to look foolish.

But these are just my opinions.  I'm rootin' for the smokin' hot babe!

What She Should Do

You are right about Ifill and Palin should immediately come out and innoculate herself by congratulating Ifill on her book about Obama and jokingly hope that it is not as successful as she hopes, because that will only happens if Obama wins.

She has to get away from the overused soundbites she has used and eal specifically with what is asked. If she is not that familiar with a country or its leader then she should respond by saying that she may not be as familiar with people from some other countries as Biden is but she is more familiar than her opponent with the people of this country. 

She should also remind Biden that FDR was not president when the stock market crashed in 1929 nor did he go on TV to speak to the nation. She should also bring into question his two made-up stories of being under enemy fire. That might get him riled up enough to make a gaffe or pull a Rick Lazio.

 

Agree on the overused soundbites

Please no more lipstick on a pitbull, hockey mom, second grade when Biden was in DC (Jeez, don't they realize the comeback with McC's age???), PTA, Council, Mayor (Gov is fine because it's her current position and the most "executive"), I can see Russia, any bridge to nowhere reference.

I'm sure she'll bring up her son (and Joe's) brave service to our country ... that'll be fine.

Tonight needs to be an introduction to some new soundbites..

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

»→ Overused Soundbites

But dust off that Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now. (ACORN)

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Frustrating

Don't want to hear:

   Bridge to nowhere

   Thanks but no thanks

   Earmarks

   Pork Barrel

But Palin cannot carry the water for McCain and the GOP.

  McCain is still acting like: "What Me Worry?"

  The GOP has accepted blame for the fiscal mess

  And who is the GOP Chair and does he have a voice?

 

GNY... I feel the same

GNY...

I feel the same way with what I don't want to hear.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

The Bill

She needs to remind America that the bill does not reduce liberal responsibility for economic problems.

JDW


DAILY WAVE

'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'

The only thing I can predict is the media

they will spin what ever happens in favor of Biden

All Biden has to do

is show up and not Droll and he will be declared the winner.

McCain / Palin  '08

I agree. But because the

I agree. But because the MSM has absolutely no credibility in the mind of the average citizen, their "praise" of Biden will not carry long term weight.

I think Gov. Palin is energized by criticism from those who underestimate her. She's one of those rare people who says, "bring it on". The MSM simply cannot understand someone like her. They don't know anyone like her.

95 percent of viewers will forget 95 percent of the words spoken by the VP candidates tonight in about 15 minutes. That's just the way it is.

What they will remember is how the candidates presented themselves. Were they confident? Did they connect personally with the viewers? Do they seem trustworthy? Did they have shifty yes? Did they show genuine humor at the right moments? Etc. That's what people take away from these TV debates.

Biden has spent a career framing himself in the public eye as a loose cannon, a gaffe machine, a plagerizer, an "insider", a politician who will say anything, regardless of the truth. He is a "please like me" loudmouth, and will lose the debate on the aformentioned "presentation qualities." As you say, the MSM will praise him to the rafters, as we already know. Good grief, I could, right now, write the stories they will craft for him.

The moderator has already been compromised by her obvious admiration of Obama and what he represents. That works nicely in Gov. Palin's favor.

And for the "conservative" commentators who have, even this close to Gov. Palin's debate night, have attempted to raise doubts re her performance tonight, I will remember who they are, forever. Their public and ridiculous commentaries remind me of one of George Orwell's phrases in 1984: Their comments are a "well-timed stroke of treachery."

Gov. Palin will do very well indeed in tonight's debate.

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

Sarah Baracuda will...

...chew up Biden and spit him out.  Palin is no slouch. She will be studied up, ready and will have both barrels loaded.

Average Joe will demonstrate before America just how often he puts his big, liberal, left-wing foot in his mouth - stupid is as stupid does!

"Don't crush that dwarf! Hand me the pliers!" - Firesgin Theatre

Palin is no slouch. She

Palin is no slouch. She will be studied up, ready and will have both barrels loaded. 

Recent history would indicate otherwise, but it would be a nice change of pace.

Who would have dreamed that when socialism came to the U.S.A.
it would be brought not by Bolsheviks in blue jeans but Wall Street
bankers in Gucci loafers?

I have been quite busy in

I have been quite busy in the evenings, -- Did McCain actually vote for this pork laden folly?

If he did, he is no longer allowed to mention earmarks as a bad thing. 

BD ~ Here's the list who voted "No"

Linked on Drudge. 

Both McCain & Obama voted yes.

Imagine my shock that the astronaut senator of mine (Nelson) voted no! 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Well, in last weeks vote our

Well, in last weeks vote our rep Gabriel Giffords who is a Democrat voted against the bill which surprised me.  But it also was telling in a way.  If she was secure in her race against Tim Bee she would never have voted the way she did.  That race must be TIGHT!

I noticed that, too,

I noticed that, too, Blonde. It reminded me of the days he was my state rep and I was very supportive of him - hence my profile. Since I left FL, I have not voted for a dem. Of late, I had seen Nelson move in the qrong direction, so I was pleased to see this NAY vote.

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I think Palin will win,

I think Palin will win, “IF” Mc Cain and Co will leave her alone. I think that with all the info. the Mc Cain gang is putting in her head just jams things up.

Like that line with the Perky one, about how she respects the journalist bla..... bla.....bla.....(it sounds like Mc Cain)

Just shoot back something like Fred Thompson would.

 

I read this and that, what do you read there, Perky..

Or do you have someone read too you, you know.. like you have someone writes your little note book on the internet for you..????

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

the left

not only stacked the deck, they own the casino. They will make sure no mater what Palin does and what Biden does. Biden will win.  

Aesop Ant and Grasshopper fable

Anyone remember Aesop's Ant and Grasshopper fable? In the year 2008 it appears that this fable has been changed and now the ants who planned for the future should now have to help out the grasshopper who didn't. It appears all you have to do now in current times is not plan, and then when things fail ask the government to bail you out, and then when things don't improve after that, just ask for another bailout and have those who did plan and did the right things, pay for your bailout.

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My sentiments exactly.  I paid off all credit three years ago with my last mortgage payment, despite the Government's attempts to break me.  Despite the State of Delaware's attempts to bait me with a new and improved Credit Card every time I answered the phone or picked up my mail.

I'm not feeling very sympathetic toward everybody who had a party while I was living within my means. 

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Let's just hope the

Let's just hope the moderator doesn't ask her about Supreme Court decisions other than Roe v. Wade...

First of all, bal

She was asked which decisions she disagreed with, not just about decisions in general.

Secondly, not being a lawyer, why would she be familiar with Supreme Court decisions by name?  The only other one I could think of off the top of my head was Kelo.  The other one that I disagreed with was the granting of Gitmo detainees citizen-tye rights, but I have no idea (not being a lawyer) what the name of that decision was, or how better to phrase it in legal language.

So, once again, you cherry pick, and get it wrong, as usual. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Right Blonde - Kelo vs New London sticks in my craw

because it was so outrageous and was the last decision before the court became more balanced.  Liberals have been screaming about the "conservative court" which is really just now balanced and Biden couldn't name one case in the last few years that he disagreed with?  He's a lawyer - pretty pathetic.  Non Lawyers generally don't cite court case names. 

bal, and that is

bal, and that is relevant...how? Or is that just your little snide remark for the day?

Here is your idiot quote for the day:

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."

- Barack Obama

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

If you can watch Palin

If you can watch Palin fumble around when answering Couric's question and still think she's a good VP pick, well God bless ya'.

If you can watch Obama fumble around and Biden fumble around

despite the media being in the tank for them then "God bless ya"

Obama doesn't understand foreign policy - and when to meet with leaders, doesn't understand how the U.N. works, thinks SCOTUS is above the Presidents pay grade and has said many other stupid things

Biden has a Gaffe a minute and couldn't even name a single case from the so called "conservative court" that libs are so upset about.  That's embarrassing - he's a lawyer and a liberal.  

On the video I watched, he

On the video I watched, he talked about a ruling in which he was disappointed in the Supreme Court.

Ummmmm...

Or should i say um, uh, um, um....

Lot's of libs saw Obama stutter wildly during some of his own, non-interview speeches, completely loose his train of thought, babble on, say stupid things (57 states), etc.  And, i'll bet that they have been editing out Obama gaffes for 2 years in their interviews with him.

They still think he is a good POTUS pick. 

Bal:  I must say, when I

Bal:

 I must say, when I heard that question I was hard pressed in the same amount of time to come up with an answer and there is much about the Court that I disagree with.

Sveral minutes later I rememberd that I disagreed with the decisions involving the death penalty, the ability of a community to seize property to hand to developers and one or two thers, but they did not roll off the tip of my tongue.

Perhaps I might be considered an idiot, but I think I am an average person who does not parrot off talking points.

Roe IS the defining issue socially of our time.

Blonde is right. This was

Blonde is right. This was an obvous gotchya question because most politicians don't know the names of SCOTUS cases.

What Palin should have said is that, "beyond Roe v. Wade I would be happy to go through cases one by one with you if you have them" or "I'm more concerned about how judges make their decisions rather than the decisions themselves."

 

Idea

I have an idea bal. If Iffil asks Sarah about Roe v. Wade, she should respond that she feels that there could be a possible compromise combining the 2nd amendment and Roe v. Wade. Liberals would allow hunters like Sarah to keep her guns AND we would allow liberals to have guns also so they could eliminate abortion and just wait until the babies are born and then they can just shoot them.

What da ya think?

P.S On 2nd thought, maybe we better not bring that up. The liberal (The View) mentality would probably take us up on it. Course first they'd want to pass a 350 billion dollar bill to pay laid off abortion Drs. unemployment, subsidized housing, food stamps, child care and retraining money to become COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS for ACORN. 

Biden's favorite Slurpee flavor

I wonder if the moderator will ask Biden what his favorite flavor of Slurpee from 7/11 is.

It's curry!

It's curry!

you're right bal

And let's hope she doesn't ask Biden who was president in 1929.

I'm going to ask you once more, not to belabor the point, but specifically who presided over the crash of 29 and which network did they appear on?

If Sarah does reasonably well....

....and if Biden is his usual insufferable, long-winded, gaffe prone self,

....and if it is apparent that Sarah is getting unfair and stupid "gotcha" questions,

...it can only help to fire up the base even more and the polls will tilt towards McCain despite the MSM's best effortst to make it look like the election of the Annointed One is a mere formality.

This election is over

McCain dug his grave with supporting the bailout. The media will stop at nothing to convince the drones that Biden destroyed Palin in the debate, although I'm sure Palin will wipe the floor with hairplugs mcgee.

Think about it...McCain wtfpwned SOBama in their debate, yet the MSM was saying how great the Messiah performed and how McCain was just plain awful.

The American people are not intelligent enough to see past the media bias...not with Jimmy Carter II running.

VP Debate Trail Leads to Bill Ayers

Here's a tidbit about which I hope Sarah Palin is aware:

The St. Louis Athletic Complex at Washington University in St. Louis, site of tonight's vice presidential debate, is on the same ground where the ROTC buildings on the campus stood before they were burned to the ground as anti-Vietnam war sentiment reached a fever pitch in May 1970.  At about the same time, according to Discover the Networks, domestic terrorist Bill Ayers was busy carrying out similarly detestable activities.

Again, here's to hoping Sarah Palin uses the info to, once again, connect Obama-Biden to Bill Ayers-style terrorism.

Details are posted about it here.

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Maybe

We might luck out if Iffil is a Suuni and Barack is a Shiite.

How do you like them apples bal?

Point four.

No matter how Sarah Palin does the media is going to declare Je Biden the winner. If Biden makes a big gaffe then Sarah has a shot.

 

Obama: "No, if we're going to ask questions about who is promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily"

Ifill knows everyone knows

Ifill knows everyone knows about her book and her bias so she will tread carefully.  However, she will undoubtedly (very subtly) try and stump Sara.  She just won't be able to help herself.

I see it as if the

I see it as if the questioning goes like the Prez debate where they switch off on who gets to answer first, Awfill will lob the softies to Joe first and the toughies to Palin first. Joe will get that extra few minutes to gather himself on the tougher questions.

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

Exactly.

Exactly.

But she won't need to...

I'm still convinced that Ifill has already passed the questions to the Obama camp.

It's in her best interests, and if caught, the MSM won't cover it, so little to lose.

The proof will be if Biden is smooth and concise... just watch.

Geraldine Ferraro

I know this will never happen in our biased media, but I would like to see some enterprising journalist compare Geraldine Ferraro and Sarah Palin.  I bet the only foreign policy experience Ferraro ever had was shopping at a Korean grocery store in Queens.  True she had law experience, but I would bet that Sarah Palin has more experience at this point than Ferraro did when she ran for VP.

I sure hope she will not

I sure hope she will not hold back. Some points I pray she will make:

1. Biden was one of only 5 senators who voted against the Alaska pipeline in '72 that has since produced BILLIONS of barrels of oil.

2. Please, Senator, explain more about your helicopter being 'forced down'...

3. Why are you consistently wrong regarding foreign affairs? Voting against the Gulf War, voting FOR the war you now say is illegal, claiming earlier that Obama is not ready to be president, wanting to break Iraq up into 3 sectors....your plagarism, your claims of being from a family of coal miners, your claims of being the first in your family to attend a university...

Barack The Trekkie

There is a guy who has a 5-minute "Report from the Left Coast" named Mike Evans who does his bit at 6:20 AM on KLBJ in Austin, and, I assume, a lot of other radio stations in America.

This morning, he said that Obama loved Star Trek as a kid, and recently he spotted Leonard Nimoy (Spock) at one of his rallies. According to Evans, Obama excidedly ran up to Nimoy, flashed the Vulcan hand signal, and said, "Live Long And Prosper" to Nimoy.

If this had happened to George W. Bush or Sarah Palin, neither one of them could possibly live long enough to live this down. SNL would do bits on it for months. Every time a news story was done on them, it would be mentioned. All of the MSM would make it their top story that day.

Fear of Palin

I want McCain to win, but this election could be like 1976, with Obama as Jimmy Carter.

If that is the case, then after the four years of a failed Obama presidency, Palin will blowout Obama in 2012 in a 47 state landslide.

That is why the MSM feels it must destroy Palin. NOW!!!

Does Biden already know the questions?

Since Ifill has a FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST..., what are the chances that she's already provided Biden with the questions?

That's Okay

Seeing how Joe is he'll probably get mixed up and apply the wrong answer to the questions.

"Sen. Biden, seeing how Afganistan is coming to the forefront of the war on terror, what would be your military response?"

"Well Gwen, with the bailout bill passing in the House last night 74 to 2 I think everything will be coming up roses tomorrow on Saturday. And by the way, standup from that wheel chair so we can all see that beautiful dress you have on. Oh, God luv ya"

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

I hope Ms. Ifill

asks:  "For the first time in American history, Vice President Cheney has claimed his office is part of the Legislative, not the Executive, Branch of the Federal Government.  Do you agree or disagree with that position - and why?"

From what I've read here over the past few weeks, a great many conservative Republicans hope she asks questions such as:

1.  John McCain.  Is he a maverick or what?

2.  Where did you ever find those cute glasses?

3.  What's your favorite color?

Spot on. Maybe she can

Spot on.

Maybe she can take another crack at what magazines she reads too.  I bet she's checked off a couple of "Bill Me Later" boxes since the Couric interview.

Who would have dreamed that when socialism came to the U.S.A.
it would be brought not by Bolsheviks in blue jeans but Wall Street
bankers in Gucci loafers?

Senator Biden, what is the

Senator Biden, what is the Center of Gravity at the Strategic, Operational, and Tactical levels of the current War on terrorism?

Follow on when he stares blankly - "Are we in a war against Islamo fascism?"  "What in your view is KEY to victory?"

My wish

Senator Biden, what is your favorite color?

Blue. No,...

Aaaagghhhh.....

»→ Biden's favorite color

Biden's answer would likely be the only one that is wrong.

Black - the complete absence of any color. 

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avenar:

To recycle an old joke, Sen. Biden's answer should be "plaid."

Senator Biden...

Ifill. to Biden... 

"Senator Biden, within a margin of 10 million, how many voters are there in Delaware?"

Ifill turns to Palin...

"Governor Palin, name them."

i know, i used the base joke elsewhere, but it fits ;-)

Well the Constitution might agree.

The only specific duties that the Constitution sets for the Vice President is to be "President of the Senate" and to cast any tie breaking votes.

Remember that the VP used to be whoever came in second place in the Presidential voting in the electoral college. That was changed by the 12th Amendment, but the duties of the VP were never modified.

So...Is the President of the Senate a Legislative or Executive position?

 

You want change? Give me a dollar.

BD and c5, if y'all can

BD and c5, if y'all can stomach going to the NYT website, they did a great op/ed piece on questions for both veep candidates:

http://www.nytimes.c...

Who would have dreamed that when socialism came to the U.S.A.
it would be brought not by Bolsheviks in blue jeans but Wall Street
bankers in Gucci loafers?

okay, let me take a hack at

okay, let me take a hack at this....

Senator Biden, do you believe that continued withdrawal of American troops from Iraq will lead to a newly ignited civil war?

Current status is immaterial since security has been acheived.  A better question is "Your running mate positined himself against a strategy that has proven to be one of the more effective in recent history.  Do you agree with Obama that the surge was dooomed to fail? If presented a future opportunity for victory in another conflict, will you run from the campaign?

Governor Palin, since you were selected as a vice presidential candidate, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has given more press conferences to American reporters than you have. Why do you have less confidence in the American press and people than the president of Iran does? And when will you dare to face the press for real?

Are you talking about the same press that has openly attacked the palin family, including children?  Really!????  Do you ACTUALLY expect Palin to act as a clay pigeon to a non-objective media after what they have done??

If the McCain camp was smart, they would have had her in front of objective media, not the mob that has thrown all in with the Obama camp.

Senator Biden, you’ve been one of the Senate’s most ardent drug warriors. You helped create the office of “drug czar”; backed our failed eradication efforts in South America; encouraged the government to seize the assets of people merely suspected of drug crimes; pushed for the expanded use of racketeering and conspiracy laws against drug offenders; advocated the use of the military to fight the drug war; and sponsored a bill that holds venue owners and promoters criminally liable for drug use by people attending concerts and events.

Today, illicit drugs are as cheap and abundant as they were decades ago. Would you agree that the anti-drug policies you’ve championed have failed? If not, how have they succeeded?

Well, If Barack had not been snorting all that product, life would have been easier to eradicate them wouldn't it?

As governor of Alaska, you have worked with Democrats like me to achieve goals we both shared. Since becoming the vice presidential nominee of the Republican Party, you’ve done nothing but ridicule Democrats and our goals. How do you expect to be able to get help from Democrats — either as governor or as vice president — after your performance on the campaign trail?

Ridiculed DEMOCRATS?  These the dame people who have started doing painstings of Palin in the nude, attacked the family, belittled education?  THOSE DEMOCRATS?  YOU MUST BE HIGH ON OBAMAS LEFT OVER STASH...

 

Senator Biden, you told me once that, shortly before the 2004 election, you advised John Kerry to respond harshly to a new Osama bin Laden videotape. You described the conversation this way: “I’m on the phone, I e-mail, I say, ‘John, please, say three things’: ‘How dare bin Laden speak of our president this way.’ No. 2, ‘I know how to deal with preventing another 9/11.’ No. 3, ‘Kill him.’” You then threw up your hands in disgust and said of Senator Kerry, “He didn’t make any of it. Let’s get it straight. None of it.”

This story was entertaining, but it wasn’t strictly accurate. It turned out that you did not, in fact, even speak with Senator Kerry until well after he had issued a vigorous denunciation of bin Laden. This episode is one of several in which you have appeared to exaggerate your importance. Recently, you spoke of being “shot at” in Iraq. This, too, turned out to be false. Why should voters trust you, after you have made so many provably embroidered assertions?

Better question is "Senator Biden, what is the Center of Gravity in the current conflict?"

I still hae yet to hear ANY candidate illustrate what they believe to be key to victory and why.

I still hae yet to hear ANY

I still hae yet to hear ANY candidate illustrate what they believe to be key to victory and why - BD Im not sure there is a clear victory.  A pyric one in where Iraq is responsible for its affairs, both political and militarily, and "freindly" to the USA allowing us to have bases there.  However, I have teh belief that as soon as our influence is removed in a major way, ie minimal or no military precense, then they will revert to their old ways.  Chaos will resume or a strong dictatorial leader will emerge.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

BD Im not sure there is a

BD Im not sure there is a clear victory.  A pyric one in where Iraq is responsible for its affairs, both political and militarily, and "freindly" to the USA allowing us to have bases there.

I disagree.  In my own mind, the key to defeating the Islamo fascists is to defeat their message of islamo terror by presenting their target population a competing vision.  Iraq is KEY to that.  It gives us access to the collective mindset of the arab peoples so we can present that competing vision - Democracy.

 Everything else is buying time.

Oh, you mean like Hillary got asked....

Whether she preferred pearls or diamonds? 

You're waaaaay to easy today, frankie.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

She could have a Dukakis question posed...

"Gov. Palin, if you're daughter was raped by an HIV infected, serial rapist and found out she was pregnant with his child, infected with HIV, would you allow your daughter to have an abortion if she requested it?"

Ubercon

»→ Dukakis question

And her reply should be:  This is very similar to Sen. Obama's fears that his beautiful little daughters might be "punished with a baby".

Any more hypotheticals, Ms Ifill?  I saw a falling star once.  Why wasn't I warned? 

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