I do not see one on his right hand. I think he got the bracelet and thought hmmmmm, I don't have anything that goes with this and tossed it in the dresser drawer.
He has one - how else do you think he remembered the soldier's name? Watch the video: he stammers, then looks down at his wrist before he says the name.
Regardless of bracelets, it was significant what the two said about the soldier's mothers.
Obama (paraphrase): "this soldier's mother wanted no more wars so no more mothers have to suffer"
McCain (paraphrase): "this soldier's mother wanted her son's death to not be in vain"
We all want a world without war. However, this is not the present reality or a reality in the near future.
There are hardened criminals and all the parental assistance, economic assistance, public service announcements and all the appeals to criminals is not going stop criminals, thus a police force is required. Likewise, all the diplomacy in the world is not going to stop rogue states and rogue organizations from waging war against us and our friends around the world, thus a military force is required.
The thing Democrats and the thing Obama does not seem to understand is that, yes, we would like to honor the mother's wish that no other mother goes what she went through in losing her son, but it is not our fault that more sons and daughters will die in wars.
IT IS THE FAULT OF REALLY EVIL PEOPLE IN EVIL COUNTRIES. AND IT IS NOT U.S. POLICIES THAT MAKE THEM ROGUE. Eight years with Clinton and eight years of Bush have proven this. There were numerous attacks in the US and abroad against our interests under Clinton, and under Bush there were similar attacks too, proving it is not for liberal politics or conservative politics that made the U.S. its enemies, but rather the enemies are enemies for their own evil reasos (hy-jacked religion, dictatorial ambitions, greed, and yes, some do just for the fun of it, in a manner of speaking, that is, power mongering).
In any case, it is better, when we have no choice, but to try to make the deaths of our sons and daughters not be for nought, than to be defeated by our enemies.
So McCain undertands the world, as it is, and has made the promise that his mother's sons death will not be in vain.Obama lives in "fantasy land", as also proven by his naive approaches to dealing with world leaders, both friendly and unfriendly.
Obama said that he will work for more sanctions out of the UN, but China and Russia have security council vetos and have already nixed futher sanctions against Iran, so Obama does not understand how the UN works or how to deal with Iran.
The next president of the USA may have to ask Congress for authority to attack Iran. In such a case, Obama will sit down and piss in his pants, but McCain will stand up and piss on the enemy. McCain's solution for Iran is to get leverage against Iran by making, not just Afghanistan as our partner, but Iraq and other countries in the regions. This can bring pressure on Iran. And that is why staying in Iraq until their is not only military country by Iraqs leaders, but also political control that remains Democratic.
After he spoke about the boy's mom and his promise to her to make sure no other mother has to suffer what she is suffering he said he was going to increase troupsin Afganistan and bomb Pakistan.
I saw his take up a lot of McCain points that I have heard him disagree with before and then that. Obama is just a liar and if people can not see that, they are blind. McCain is not my pick for Republican nominee, but I respect that he is not a liar.
McCain clearly won the debate, even if the media wants to cover for its favorite child. Now, I want to see how does this play with voters. CNN is a joke I'll never watch that network again. I used to like em but they are getting worse by the minute. This is the way Palin can hit Obama/Biden back and put them on the defense.
Well, Yahoo's "poll" calls it a tie. With the media pushing to call Obama the "winner," a tie in a public poll may indicate that voters agree with you.
ABC's Nightline has a wildly biased summary of the debate by Terry Moran. I'm sure there will be a you tube video of it at some point. Can't wait to hear Stephanopolous' grade card.
I thought that McCain smoked Obama on everything. Not sure what the talking heads are saying. McCain simply knew what he was talking about,Obama seemed like he wasnt sure yet?
Obama said that the resent crisis it not a time for presidential Canidates to be political, so he leaves his Job for someone else to do. He really must be looking forward to Camp David.
I thought that McCain smoked Obama"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
To borrow from Obama, "I can walk and chew gum at the same time."
I have 30+ people comming over oday, so I was cleaning the house and getting ready. I heard it all. I heard the anger in Obama's voice and chuckles and I hear McCain be cool. I heard Obama pick up almost every McCain point and agree with it at some time in the debate. McCain had to of won this debate because Obama could not maintain a stance he had before the debate, he changed his mind, or he knew McCain was right and lied.
The only misstep McCain made was when he could not pronounce blah blah blah's name. He should have stopped trying and said, "whatever, you all know the asswipe I am talking about."
McCain was great. I missed the beginning because my husband goofed on taping but from what I saw, he handled himself very well and came off just the right amount of annoyed at Obama's rude behavior.
That's not bias as I see it. Albright is a Democrat, admits to being a liberal, and is proud to be a leftist. Anything she says is going to be way skewed left and we expect it.
Bias is when Katie Couric says she is "independent" or "moderate" and then the next day she is sticking a shiv under McCain's ribs while simultaneously making out with Obama on live television.
In the beginning, Obama made the vacuous point that this bailout was the result of years of trickle-down economics, and that he had "informed" the Treasury secretary that there might be a crisis coming, way back in the spring. McCain made the point that he and many others had been seeing this coming for years. At that point, I was screaming at the TV for McCain to remind the country that the GOP had been trying for years to regulate Fannie Mae, only to have the Democrats undermine their efforts. But McCain wouldn't pull the trigger, and I was screaming.
Until, after a moment's reflection, I realized that the Democrats and Republicans were still negotiating the bailout deal back in DC. If McCain had pulled the trigger, it would have opened a can of worms, inflamed personalities, and might have sparked angry recriminations. It would have held up the deal. So, McCain refrained from attacking Obama about who was to blame.
That's presidential. Talk about multi-tasking! McCain was keeping his eye on several situations at once, and he dealt with one task (the debate) while knowing how it affected another. McCain kept his mouth shut. He could have scored a good, solid punch, but for the sake of the bailout deal, he kept his mouth shut.
I don't care how the focus groups respond, or how the polls respond. That was how a president behaves. Good for him.
Being both smart and experienced, saved some ammunition for the next debate which is supposed to be about the economy.
And you're also right KC, I believe that McCain isn't going to further roil the Washington water until a bill gets passed which is good for the whole country, well as good as it can get anyway.
This was very intersting, great: "Mark Levin Blasts Bill O’Reilly for Attacking Conservative Talk Radio." I heard O'Reilly supporting the bailout & lost a lot of respect for his objectivity as a conservative. Don't trust him as much now... he is "in the tank, for banks," I would say; LOL. He was bashing other conservatives last night. He does have a big ego in how he acts a lot of the time. M-B
Mark Levin Blasts Bill O’Reilly for Attacking Conservative Talk Radio
Friday, September 26, 2008 By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor
(CNSNews.com) - Conservative radio host Mark Levin fired back at Bill O’Reilly Thursday evening after O’Reilly delivered a blistering diatribe on his own radio program earlier in the day, attacking conservative talk radio hosts for opposing a $700 billion bailout for the financial industry and calling them “idiots,” “charlatans,” and “right-wing liars.” “What a buffoon,” Levin said of O’Reilly, host of Fox News’ "The O’Reilly Factor.” “He doesn’t want to talk about socialism. He doesn’t want to talk about the beginnings of this scandal. No. The same guy who claims to have led the boycott against France that forced France to do whatever France was supposed to do. What a joke. What a moron. He doesn’t understand. He is Ted Baxter.” On his own program, O’Reilly initially threw some bricks at conservative talk radio in general. “It gets me angry,” said O’Reilly. “I do talk radio and most talk radio is conservative-dominated ideologues; Kool-Aid drinking idiots. Idiots. Screaming at you that this is socialism, this is this, this is that. ‘It’s Clinton’s fault.’ It’s Clinton’s fault? He hasn’t been in office in 8 years. It’s Bush’s fault! It happened under Bush’s watch.” But then O’Reilly’s tirade seemed to aim at Rush Limbaugh—without actually naming him. “But let’s get back to this talk radio stuff,” said O’Reilly. “These idiots. I mean, they’re misleading you. They’re lying to you. They’re rich, these guys. Big cigars. All of that. ‘Yeah, oh yeah, my private jet!’ And they’re saying, ‘Oh, no! No bail out!’ Uh, uh, no way! “Hey! You’re going to get it, not them!” O’Reilly continued. “That foreign investment pulls out, we are toast! And they’ll pull out if this bailout doesn’t happen. Are you getting the message here? Walk away from these liars, these right-wing liars. Walk away from them! They’re not looking out for you.” On his show later Thursday, Levin responded to O’Reilly by name in a “take-no-prisoners” electronic version of the shootout at the OK Corral. Levin started by noting the research he, Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do for their daily programs. “If you’re going to be an intelligent observer and commentator, whether on radio or TV, you need to take the time to educate yourself, if you’re not already educated, about all the issues that come before you each day,” said Levin. “You need to take the time to research them, and you have to call them as you see them. This is what I do each and every day. “This is what Rush does each and every day. This is what Sean does each and every day. And so many other great talk show hosts,” said Levin. “And I’m not talking to some of you backbenchers, and you know who I mean,” said Levin. “These blowhards. You get arrogant, stupid people who get paid a lot of money to be on radio and TV to be arrogant and stupid. And one of them, one of them is on the Fox News Channel, my favorite cable channel. And he has a fledgling radio show that has no ratings, and he’ll be off radio soon because he’s a failure. It’s the non-factor: Bill O’Reilly.” Levin, who serves as president of the Landmark Legal Foundation when he is not on the air, described O’Reilly, who graduated from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, as being “utterly unencumbered with information.” “And he is no conservative,” said Levin. “He’s another mainstream, moron, phony journalist. That’s what he is. And, oh, jealous like hell of Rush Limbaugh. Did you notice that? The cigar and the airplane? Let me tell you something else, jerk. You can’t hold a candle to him.” CNSNews.com has placed an interview request with O’Reilly’s publicist, which has not been answered. Levin, meanwhile, declined to elaborate on his comments.
Rick Pearcey and David Kearl contributed to this report.
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ConservaChick at 11:39 PM - September 26, 2008 Mark Levin is brilliant and is far more educated on this subject than O'Reilly can ever hope to be. O'Reilly is adding to the panic that is going to lead up to this sham of a bailout. Bush is just throwing up his hands and once again giving into the leftists who have CREATED this problem via their misguided attempts at a socially engineered economy. I am sorely disappointed that McCain didn't lambaste Barney Frank tonight when Obama was trying to blame the Republicans for the housing/banking crisis. Ridiculous. Levin, keep up the good work and thank God for YOU. O'Reilly shut your mouth until you become more knowlegeable on this subject. Looking out for the people. Please. He isn't looking out for us when he condones strapping 700 billion dollars in debt on the backs of our children so that millions of people can stay in homes they can't afford and or walk away from mortgages they took out irresponsibly or were given irresponsibly. Enough is enough already!
Obama in that black suit reminded me of a limo driver for a funral home, seriously! He did not look like a president. I know people will not believe me, but that is an honest observation, not an insult.
Try to calm down a little. I'm sure the word went out to all Dem media supporters to expect only a fair showing by Obama, so make sure you act as if he won it big. The average person that actually watched the debate will know better.
I doubt if any "word" had to get out to tell the media to pump Obama. That's like having to tell them to breathe, or having to remind Berliners to cheer a Hitler speech in 1940.
Wow! You need to post that more often. Anyone who hasn't clicked on that video, please do it now, and send the link to someone else. I'm going to spam everyone I know.
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Someone in the Obama camp should have told him you never bring a knife to a gun fight. McCain presented himself as a Presidential contender... Obama presented himself as an ill informed novice.
Meanwhile my politics hating but America loving wife from the Middle East (we are horribly diverse in our home!) thought that McCain won the debate in terms of logical arguments, but made one key mistake.
His obvious dislike for former street agitator Barry O showed in that he refused to look directly at him wheras Obama forced himself to look at McCain.
Now see I can't look at Obama either so I didn't think about that part, but my wife made a good point. Next time McCain needs to look at Barry more, and say "there you go again" like Reagan.
Not looking at Barry was an intimidation ploy, and it helped put The Big Zero on the defensive. Barry was playing catchup and chasing the coattails of the old man, and I use "old man" in a positive fashion.
From a psychological point of view, Obama's main weakness is his abandonement by his father, a man who was quite controlling, stern, bitter and remote. Barry has focused his life into finding out who he is and has attempted to define himself by the father that was never there. He has constructed himself on someone else's historical record and the memories of those that knew his father, innacuracies and all. McCain was applying a little PsyOps he's learned in life, some/much from his captors at the Hanoi Hilton, and maybe from a campaign advisor. It doesn't hurt that McCain may dislike Obama for the phony he is too. So, the ignoring thing is part of the tactics of McCain, not a McCain character flaw.
There will be a moment where McCain will look the empty suit in his oversized collar and school him definitively, just the way you want.
Have patience. McCain is a marathoner, not a sprinter.
It takes the few small points Obama scored and makes them the main points of the story about the debate. The story manages to point out McCain's age and also exactly how many interviews Sarah Palin has done. They mentioned a line that McCain uses "frequently while campaigning", but not any of the ones I heard Obama use that he uses at every stop.
Really strange about Obama's bracelet. I googled the soldier's name and only got two hits. There were none with the name and Obama. Odd that Obama has never mentioned it. I doubt that is because he considered it a private matter as he just mentioned in front of 80 million viewers. Sounds real fishy.
I agree...it was like he was prepared for John using his bracelet dialogue...supposedly ready for it...he stuttered, or spurted sort of about the person and name, he was not at all comfortable with the people or the familiarity with the mother/son info...he just got this not that long ago...you could tell..he knew John was going to use this, so the Axlerod team came up with this at the last minute for Obama..
Sad...no matter how you look at it.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
"Yours spends the first half absolutely trashing McCain. Mine (the next post down) isn't as bad. You win, but we all lose with the Associated Press."
Amen Brother.
We know that these so called journalists are nothing more than political whores paying lip service to the Ones' one (sorry ladies) but the fact that the left is coming to the "draw" conclusion tells me that they are worried about McCain's performance.
BTW I am a 6 footer (tall for a hispanic) and Barry O is much taller than 6'1". I have seen him live. I put him at about 6'4" or so.
AP has Obama's height wrong.
I like also how the AP writer got that -McCain, white, 5'9"- line in there as though McCain's white skin makes him somehow less qualified to be president in our new age of politically correct and odor free politics.
Screw that. My brother is so dark he makes Obama look white, but I would no sooner want my brother to be president as Obama.
I am going to say one thing before I close out tonight...I was very surprise, yet pleased and gratified by leftist moderator Lehrer, he did a great job tonight I thought.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
I thought Senator McCain did a great job. He was masterful in the realm of foreign affairs. He was walking circles around bambi (aka problem: high gas prices; solution: tune up and inflate tires; next).
The issue of the emphasis on Iraq or Afghanistan was explained well by McCain. bambi spent a lot of his debate time defending his past naive remarks which included is fool rant about bombing our Pakistani ally. Another example was bambi's initial remarks regarding Georgia when that issue erupted.
In regards to tax cuts and health care, Senator McCain needs to really articulate the conservative stance on this. Taxes on high wage earners is exorbitant already and rose 2% over the last eight years despite President Bush's tax cuts. Presenlty, 1% of the population pays 39% of all taxes; 50% of the population pays 86% of the taxes. The bottom half pay no taxes and 40% of them get money back. McCain should remind voters that health care is already 50% run by the government and they are doing a poor job of that - no surprise.
Meanwhile, Senator McCain did explain the value of tax cuts to businesses. I think he was able to make the connection that lowering not raising taxes on business keeps jobs here in America.
Again, overall, Senator McCain trounced the dimocrat from Chicago.
After the debate Dana Bash interviewed a McCain campaign spokesperson who obviously was presenting McCain in the best possible light. Three times CNN commented about her job to "spin" the debate discussion in favor of McCain. Next up was Joe Biden who was standing in as spokesperson for Obama's performance. Not once did CNN refer to Biden's take as "spin". I guess in CNN's view only the republicans can spin.
Eveeeel, right-wing Mellon-Scaife Neocon mouthpiece gets it right:
"It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them," wrote French playwright Caron de Beaumarchais in "The Barber of Seville." Barack Obama bore an uncanny resemblance to that remark Friday night in the first presidential debate with John McCain.
The often stammering Democrat nominee showed yet again -- to borrow a phrase he filched from Hollywood -- that he doesn't get it, especially when it comes to matters economic.
Sen. Obama seemed to blame the current financial crisis primarily on some mythical Republican ideology "that regulation is always bad." And in the World According to Barack, no economic policies predating the Bush administration could possibly have contributed to the implosion.
The junior senator of Illinois also endlessly played the class-warfare card, oddly implying that the investment needed to create jobs -- an investment climate that his policies would kill -- somehow comes from the "bottom up," not the top down.
And Sen. Obama repeatedly misrepresented his proposed massive tax increases as tax cuts for virtually all. It's a neat trick that is political charlatanism at its worst.
Throw in his bumbling, stumbling and naivete on national security and foreign policy and Barack Obama came across last night as exactly what he is -- one of the most inexperienced politicians ever nominated for president.
Burning Down the House, What Caused the Economic Crisis.
Everyone should watch this video, and pass it around it needs to go viral. When I watched the debates last night, I had watched this video earlier it made me view the debates in a whole new light. The MSM reporting what has happening with Wallstreet right now but they are not reporting on how we got there. Why is that? Well a bunch of those networks are in the tank for Obama. What you are not being told and why.
I was just checking on this video to watch it again, and it has been made "unavailable" on You Tube. I had already sent links to people on it, where else could it be found now? Thanks //
I just went back and checked to see if the link I sent to some still worked today, I sent some other friends the link this morning so I was curious before I sent it...
But my husband can follow the link on the email I sent him and it is working on his laptop--I will keep trying. I keep getting the message that "We're sorry, this video is no longer available". Feels like the Twilight Zone. Thanks for your help!
Hi bigtimer- I too am pretty basic with techno stuff, so I figured, when in doubt-turn it off and try again. I signed off the internet and went back on again and all is well. Love that video! McCain-Palin need to hammer it home.
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September 26, 2008 - 22:19 ET by TheSterWHERE DID THE LIVE CHAT GO!?!?
I didn't see Obama show his
September 26, 2008 - 22:28 ET by ApacheI didn't see Obama show his bracelet. McCain had his on. Makes me wonder if Obama just pulled that out of his behind.
Does Obama have a bracelet
September 26, 2008 - 22:33 ET by Scuba DudeDoes Obama have a bracelet on?
I do not see one on his right hand. I think he got the bracelet and thought hmmmmm, I don't have anything that goes with this and tossed it in the dresser drawer.
funny...
September 26, 2008 - 22:36 ET by Travis NoodleI didn't see Obama show his bracelet. McCain had his on. Makes me wonder if Obama just pulled that out of his behind.
LOL!
He has one - how else do you
September 26, 2008 - 23:12 ET by bdshepherdHe has one - how else do you think he remembered the soldier's name? Watch the video: he stammers, then looks down at his wrist before he says the name.
bds...
September 26, 2008 - 23:21 ET by Clear thinkerYou are correct. A few moments later he raised his hand and you could see it on his wrist.
A Breakthrough Night for Obama?
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I wonder was Obama’s
September 27, 2008 - 02:06 ET by USA4freedomI wonder was Obama’s bracelet made of aluminum from downed American planes??
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
McCain understands the world, Obama understands how to stutter.
September 26, 2008 - 23:19 ET by wdhorningRegardless of bracelets, it was significant what the two said about the soldier's mothers.
Obama (paraphrase): "this soldier's mother wanted no more wars so no more mothers have to suffer"
McCain (paraphrase): "this soldier's mother wanted her son's death to not be in vain"
We all want a world without war. However, this is not the present reality or a reality in the near future.
There are hardened criminals and all the parental assistance, economic assistance, public service announcements and all the appeals to criminals is not going stop criminals, thus a police force is required. Likewise, all the diplomacy in the world is not going to stop rogue states and rogue organizations from waging war against us and our friends around the world, thus a military force is required.
The thing Democrats and the thing Obama does not seem to understand is that, yes, we would like to honor the mother's wish that no other mother goes what she went through in losing her son, but it is not our fault that more sons and daughters will die in wars.
IT IS THE FAULT OF REALLY EVIL PEOPLE IN EVIL COUNTRIES. AND IT IS NOT U.S. POLICIES THAT MAKE THEM ROGUE. Eight years with Clinton and eight years of Bush have proven this. There were numerous attacks in the US and abroad against our interests under Clinton, and under Bush there were similar attacks too, proving it is not for liberal politics or conservative politics that made the U.S. its enemies, but rather the enemies are enemies for their own evil reasos (hy-jacked religion, dictatorial ambitions, greed, and yes, some do just for the fun of it, in a manner of speaking, that is, power mongering).
In any case, it is better, when we have no choice, but to try to make the deaths of our sons and daughters not be for nought, than to be defeated by our enemies.
So McCain undertands the world, as it is, and has made the promise that his mother's sons death will not be in vain.Obama lives in "fantasy land", as also proven by his naive approaches to dealing with world leaders, both friendly and unfriendly.
Obama said that he will work for more sanctions out of the UN, but China and Russia have security council vetos and have already nixed futher sanctions against Iran, so Obama does not understand how the UN works or how to deal with Iran.
The next president of the USA may have to ask Congress for authority to attack Iran. In such a case, Obama will sit down and piss in his pants, but McCain will stand up and piss on the enemy. McCain's solution for Iran is to get leverage against Iran by making, not just Afghanistan as our partner, but Iraq and other countries in the regions. This can bring pressure on Iran. And that is why staying in Iraq until their is not only military country by Iraqs leaders, but also political control that remains Democratic.
After he spoke about the
September 27, 2008 - 08:23 ET by amberAfter he spoke about the boy's mom and his promise to her to make sure no other mother has to suffer what she is suffering he said he was going to increase troupsin Afganistan and bomb Pakistan.
I saw his take up a lot of McCain points that I have heard him disagree with before and then that. Obama is just a liar and if people can not see that, they are blind. McCain is not my pick for Republican nominee, but I respect that he is not a liar.
Debate
September 26, 2008 - 22:43 ET by ConLosRepublicanosNoMcCain clearly won the debate, even if the media wants to cover for its favorite child. Now, I want to see how does this play with voters. CNN is a joke I'll never watch that network again. I used to like em but they are getting worse by the minute. This is the way Palin can hit Obama/Biden back and put them on the defense.
Voters
September 27, 2008 - 09:07 ET by Indiana JoeWell, Yahoo's "poll" calls it a tie. With the media pushing to call Obama the "winner," a tie in a public poll may indicate that voters agree with you.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
ABC's Nightline has a wildly
September 26, 2008 - 22:48 ET by ripke35ABC's Nightline has a wildly biased summary of the debate by Terry Moran. I'm sure there will be a you tube video of it at some point. Can't wait to hear Stephanopolous' grade card.
I loved it when...
September 26, 2008 - 22:51 ET by Travis NoodleMcCain called Obama naive on foreign policy. So True!
McCain called Barry on his Kissinger comments. Go John!
McCain showed strength and statesmanship during the debate.
Obama is the wrong nominee. He is a T-Ball player trying to play with MLB players.
I just loovveed Barry's smirks tonight. I'm sure in some country's a smirk would be construed as hostile behavior.
Go McCain/Palin!
Well good golly we were all
September 26, 2008 - 22:53 ET by bigtimerWell good golly we were all doing this already on the other thread you have going...what are we supposed to do...repeat ourselves...
I'll wait til morning...when we all start again...I've got 6 pages of notes...lol.
CNN and msnbc are typical with their spin....it is sad, yet Fox and their text poll are reporting 82% say McC won....hmmm....we all can't be nuts...
McCain was a slam-dunk when it came to foreign policy...he got under Obama's skin...big time.
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McCain smoked Obama on everything
September 26, 2008 - 23:13 ET by general companyI thought that McCain smoked Obama on everything. Not sure what the talking heads are saying. McCain simply knew what he was talking about,Obama seemed like he wasnt sure yet?
Obama said that the resent crisis it not a time for presidential Canidates to be political, so he leaves his Job for someone else to do. He really must be looking forward to Camp David.
I thought that McCain smoked Obama"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
How Most People Watch Debates
September 26, 2008 - 23:19 ET by BaxterJI think most people watch the debates half-assedly, while doing something else, perhaps having an end-of-week drink, and then they get their news from talk radio or cable news the next day. So the reactions tonight don't really mean a thing.
Buy this stock now!
September 27, 2008 - 00:00 ET by JWFDo you own stock in that entertonement site?
What is the deal with you linking to the site with every single post ever without end oh god make it stop?
And why the insult to most people? I talk to most people every day, they want you to stop shoving your website down their throat.
My reaction tonight that might mean a thing. go away. you. now.
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September 27, 2008 - 01:41 ET by general companyRock and Roll, : ] Dont leave me Hear in Chains in the Fools Hall of Fame
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
To borrow from Obama, "I
September 27, 2008 - 08:30 ET by amberTo borrow from Obama, "I can walk and chew gum at the same time."
I have 30+ people comming over oday, so I was cleaning the house and getting ready. I heard it all. I heard the anger in Obama's voice and chuckles and I hear McCain be cool. I heard Obama pick up almost every McCain point and agree with it at some time in the debate. McCain had to of won this debate because Obama could not maintain a stance he had before the debate, he changed his mind, or he knew McCain was right and lied.
The only misstep McCain made was when he could not pronounce blah blah blah's name. He should have stopped trying and said, "whatever, you all know the asswipe I am talking about."
Bam!
September 27, 2008 - 08:33 ET by JWFYES! That sounded good.
Sincerely,
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I agree BT
September 27, 2008 - 01:12 ET by Dee BunkMcCain was great. I missed the beginning because my husband goofed on taping but from what I saw, he handled himself very well and came off just the right amount of annoyed at Obama's rude behavior.
Bias, you want bias? A
September 26, 2008 - 23:01 ET by Clear thinkerBias, you want bias? A Breakthrough Night for Obama?
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Not Bias
September 26, 2008 - 23:13 ET by JoelCTThat's not bias as I see it. Albright is a Democrat, admits to being a liberal, and is proud to be a leftist. Anything she says is going to be way skewed left and we expect it.
Bias is when Katie Couric says she is "independent" or "moderate" and then the next day she is sticking a shiv under McCain's ribs while simultaneously making out with Obama on live television.
Joel... You got me! You
September 26, 2008 - 23:32 ET by Clear thinkerJoel...
You got me! You are correct, this should be expected from a certified socialist liberal. Good thing I don't blog.
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McCain taught me something about the presidency
September 26, 2008 - 23:09 ET by KC MulvilleIn the beginning, Obama made the vacuous point that this bailout was the result of years of trickle-down economics, and that he had "informed" the Treasury secretary that there might be a crisis coming, way back in the spring. McCain made the point that he and many others had been seeing this coming for years. At that point, I was screaming at the TV for McCain to remind the country that the GOP had been trying for years to regulate Fannie Mae, only to have the Democrats undermine their efforts. But McCain wouldn't pull the trigger, and I was screaming.
I don't care how the focus groups respond, or how the polls respond. That was how a president behaves. Good for him.
Excellent point.
September 26, 2008 - 23:13 ET by bdshepherdExcellent point.
I believe that Senator McCain
September 27, 2008 - 00:49 ET by IamTinmanBeing both smart and experienced, saved some ammunition for the next debate which is supposed to be about the economy.
And you're also right KC, I believe that McCain isn't going to further roil the Washington water until a bill gets passed which is good for the whole country, well as good as it can get anyway.
Interesting clash on Bailout - O'Reilly vs. Conservatives
September 27, 2008 - 01:08 ET by MaximusBraveheartThis was very intersting, great: "Mark Levin Blasts Bill O’Reilly for Attacking Conservative Talk Radio." I heard O'Reilly supporting the bailout & lost a lot of respect for his objectivity as a conservative. Don't trust him as much now... he is "in the tank, for banks," I would say; LOL. He was bashing other conservatives last night. He does have a big ego in how he acts a lot of the time. M-B
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Mark Levin Blasts Bill O’Reilly for Attacking Conservative Talk Radio
Friday, September 26, 2008 By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor
(CNSNews.com) - Conservative radio host Mark Levin fired back at Bill O’Reilly Thursday evening after O’Reilly delivered a blistering diatribe on his own radio program earlier in the day, attacking conservative talk radio hosts for opposing a $700 billion bailout for the financial industry and calling them “idiots,” “charlatans,” and “right-wing liars.” “What a buffoon,” Levin said of O’Reilly, host of Fox News’ "The O’Reilly Factor.” “He doesn’t want to talk about socialism. He doesn’t want to talk about the beginnings of this scandal. No. The same guy who claims to have led the boycott against France that forced France to do whatever France was supposed to do. What a joke. What a moron. He doesn’t understand. He is Ted Baxter.” On his own program, O’Reilly initially threw some bricks at conservative talk radio in general. “It gets me angry,” said O’Reilly. “I do talk radio and most talk radio is conservative-dominated ideologues; Kool-Aid drinking idiots. Idiots. Screaming at you that this is socialism, this is this, this is that. ‘It’s Clinton’s fault.’ It’s Clinton’s fault? He hasn’t been in office in 8 years. It’s Bush’s fault! It happened under Bush’s watch.” But then O’Reilly’s tirade seemed to aim at Rush Limbaugh—without actually naming him. “But let’s get back to this talk radio stuff,” said O’Reilly. “These idiots. I mean, they’re misleading you. They’re lying to you. They’re rich, these guys. Big cigars. All of that. ‘Yeah, oh yeah, my private jet!’ And they’re saying, ‘Oh, no! No bail out!’ Uh, uh, no way! “Hey! You’re going to get it, not them!” O’Reilly continued. “That foreign investment pulls out, we are toast! And they’ll pull out if this bailout doesn’t happen. Are you getting the message here? Walk away from these liars, these right-wing liars. Walk away from them! They’re not looking out for you.” On his show later Thursday, Levin responded to O’Reilly by name in a “take-no-prisoners” electronic version of the shootout at the OK Corral. Levin started by noting the research he, Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do for their daily programs. “If you’re going to be an intelligent observer and commentator, whether on radio or TV, you need to take the time to educate yourself, if you’re not already educated, about all the issues that come before you each day,” said Levin. “You need to take the time to research them, and you have to call them as you see them. This is what I do each and every day. “This is what Rush does each and every day. This is what Sean does each and every day. And so many other great talk show hosts,” said Levin. “And I’m not talking to some of you backbenchers, and you know who I mean,” said Levin. “These blowhards. You get arrogant, stupid people who get paid a lot of money to be on radio and TV to be arrogant and stupid. And one of them, one of them is on the Fox News Channel, my favorite cable channel. And he has a fledgling radio show that has no ratings, and he’ll be off radio soon because he’s a failure. It’s the non-factor: Bill O’Reilly.” Levin, who serves as president of the Landmark Legal Foundation when he is not on the air, described O’Reilly, who graduated from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, as being “utterly unencumbered with information.” “And he is no conservative,” said Levin. “He’s another mainstream, moron, phony journalist. That’s what he is. And, oh, jealous like hell of Rush Limbaugh. Did you notice that? The cigar and the airplane? Let me tell you something else, jerk. You can’t hold a candle to him.” CNSNews.com has placed an interview request with O’Reilly’s publicist, which has not been answered. Levin, meanwhile, declined to elaborate on his comments.
Rick Pearcey and David Kearl contributed to this report.
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ConservaChick at 11:39 PM - September 26, 2008 Mark Levin is brilliant and is far more educated on this subject than O'Reilly can ever hope to be. O'Reilly is adding to the panic that is going to lead up to this sham of a bailout. Bush is just throwing up his hands and once again giving into the leftists who have CREATED this problem via their misguided attempts at a socially engineered economy. I am sorely disappointed that McCain didn't lambaste Barney Frank tonight when Obama was trying to blame the Republicans for the housing/banking crisis. Ridiculous. Levin, keep up the good work and thank God for YOU. O'Reilly shut your mouth until you become more knowlegeable on this subject. Looking out for the people. Please. He isn't looking out for us when he condones strapping 700 billion dollars in debt on the backs of our children so that millions of people can stay in homes they can't afford and or walk away from mortgages they took out irresponsibly or were given irresponsibly. Enough is enough already!
Obama in that black suit
September 26, 2008 - 23:18 ET by Clear thinkerObama in that black suit reminded me of a limo driver for a funral home, seriously! He did not look like a president. I know people will not believe me, but that is an honest observation, not an insult.
A Breakthrough Night for Obama?
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Linda Douglas on Fox just
September 26, 2008 - 23:23 ET by bigtimerLinda Douglas on Fox just said to Gretchen that they have won all the post debate polls...
Bull...I do not care what she or anyone else says...or what their contrived polls say...
Unless you watched the debate yourself, not spin and sound clips...that is complete bullshite.
Period.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Try to calm down a little.
September 26, 2008 - 23:28 ET by Clear thinkerTry to calm down a little. I'm sure the word went out to all Dem media supporters to expect only a fair showing by Obama, so make sure you act as if he won it big. The average person that actually watched the debate will know better.
A Breakthrough Night for Obama?
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I doubt if any "word" had
September 27, 2008 - 09:19 ET by Indiana JoeI doubt if any "word" had to get out to tell the media to pump Obama. That's like having to tell them to breathe, or having to remind Berliners to cheer a Hitler speech in 1940.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Obama Couldn't Be More Wrong
September 26, 2008 - 23:25 ET by Steve08080on the reason for the current economic crisis. Why won't McCain just come out and tell the American people the reason.
Check out this great youtube video with the explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
God Bless America!
McCain/Palin 08
Post It
September 27, 2008 - 00:01 ET by JoelCTWow! You need to post that more often. Anyone who hasn't clicked on that video, please do it now, and send the link to someone else. I'm going to spam everyone I know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
I liked this part at the end:
top 5 contributions, from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac PACs, to prevent housing reform..
1. Dodd, Christopher J (D) $133,900
2. Kerry, John (D) $111,000
3. OBAMA, BARACK (D) $105,849
4. CLINTON, HILARY (D) $75,550
5. Kanjorski, Paul E (D) $65,500
I was just watching that.
September 27, 2008 - 00:12 ET by JWFPowelineblog has it up. Steve08080 is my new friend.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
GREAT LINK!
September 27, 2008 - 17:24 ET by DEVILDOCMOMThanks Steve, I am sending it on...now if I could only make a hard copy for my mom....
man vs. boy
September 26, 2008 - 23:31 ET by kabcadSomeone in the Obama camp should have told him you never bring a knife to a gun fight. McCain presented himself as a Presidential contender... Obama presented himself as an ill informed novice.
Bring on the Palin-Biden debate!
September 26, 2008 - 23:34 ET by Clear thinkerI can't wait to see how the VP's do. In fact, I actually have more interest in that one than the POTUS debates.
A Breakthrough Night for Obama?
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AP Link
September 26, 2008 - 23:39 ET by MexNobamahttp://lasvegas.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximized&view=article&id=D93ER0L00&_action=validatearticle
Read the bias for yourselves.
Meanwhile my politics hating but America loving wife from the Middle East (we are horribly diverse in our home!) thought that McCain won the debate in terms of logical arguments, but made one key mistake.
His obvious dislike for former street agitator Barry O showed in that he refused to look directly at him wheras Obama forced himself to look at McCain.
Now see I can't look at Obama either so I didn't think about that part, but my wife made a good point. Next time McCain needs to look at Barry more, and say "there you go again" like Reagan.
Wow
September 26, 2008 - 23:46 ET by JoelCTYours spends the first half absolutely trashing McCain. Mine (the next post down) isn't as bad. You win, but we all lose with the Associated Press.
Good point
September 27, 2008 - 09:27 ET by Indiana JoeMcCain looked like he was ashamed or afraid to look at Obama. Not good. Appearance is everything on TV.
You're spot on, look him in the eye and call him the liar he is.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
I enjoyed McCain ignoring
September 27, 2008 - 12:23 ET by stratmanI enjoyed McCain ignoring Obama.
Who wants to look at a gnat? Just shoo him away.
Not looking at Barry was an intimidation ploy, and it helped put The Big Zero on the defensive. Barry was playing catchup and chasing the coattails of the old man, and I use "old man" in a positive fashion.
From a psychological point of view, Obama's main weakness is his abandonement by his father, a man who was quite controlling, stern, bitter and remote. Barry has focused his life into finding out who he is and has attempted to define himself by the father that was never there. He has constructed himself on someone else's historical record and the memories of those that knew his father, innacuracies and all. McCain was applying a little PsyOps he's learned in life, some/much from his captors at the Hanoi Hilton, and maybe from a campaign advisor. It doesn't hurt that McCain may dislike Obama for the phony he is too. So, the ignoring thing is part of the tactics of McCain, not a McCain character flaw.
There will be a moment where McCain will look the empty suit in his oversized collar and school him definitively, just the way you want.
Have patience. McCain is a marathoner, not a sprinter.
Here's One
September 26, 2008 - 23:40 ET by JoelCTYou want egregious examples? Then you want to go to the ultimate bias: The Associated Press. Read this story:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080927/D93EQG280.html
It takes the few small points Obama scored and makes them the main points of the story about the debate. The story manages to point out McCain's age and also exactly how many interviews Sarah Palin has done. They mentioned a line that McCain uses "frequently while campaigning", but not any of the ones I heard Obama use that he uses at every stop.
Very sad. The Ass Press is on the Obama payroll.
Really strange about Obama's
September 26, 2008 - 23:42 ET by CooltomReally strange about Obama's bracelet. I googled the soldier's name and only got two hits. There were none with the name and Obama. Odd that Obama has never mentioned it. I doubt that is because he considered it a private matter as he just mentioned in front of 80 million viewers. Sounds real fishy.
coolt... I agree...it was
September 26, 2008 - 23:54 ET by bigtimercoolt...
I agree...it was like he was prepared for John using his bracelet dialogue...supposedly ready for it...he stuttered, or spurted sort of about the person and name, he was not at all comfortable with the people or the familiarity with the mother/son info...he just got this not that long ago...you could tell..he knew John was going to use this, so the Axlerod team came up with this at the last minute for Obama..
Sad...no matter how you look at it.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
JoelCT
September 27, 2008 - 00:08 ET by MexNobama..says
"Yours spends the first half absolutely trashing McCain. Mine (the next post down) isn't as bad. You win, but we all lose with the Associated Press."
Amen Brother.
We know that these so called journalists are nothing more than political whores paying lip service to the Ones' one (sorry ladies) but the fact that the left is coming to the "draw" conclusion tells me that they are worried about McCain's performance.
BTW I am a 6 footer (tall for a hispanic) and Barry O is much taller than 6'1". I have seen him live. I put him at about 6'4" or so.
AP has Obama's height wrong.
I like also how the AP writer got that -McCain, white, 5'9"- line in there as though McCain's white skin makes him somehow less qualified to be president in our new age of politically correct and odor free politics.
Screw that. My brother is so dark he makes Obama look white, but I would no sooner want my brother to be president as Obama.
Hey I think I'm gonna run
September 27, 2008 - 00:12 ET by Dan The Man 2Hey I think I'm gonna run for benevolent dictator; it s the only way to get this country straight. sarc off
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
I am going to say one thing
September 27, 2008 - 00:09 ET by bigtimerI am going to say one thing before I close out tonight...I was very surprise, yet pleased and gratified by leftist moderator Lehrer, he did a great job tonight I thought.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Great point, BT. I agree:
September 27, 2008 - 07:05 ET by Roger the ShrubberGreat point, BT. I agree: Lehrer surprised me, too!
I thought Senator McCain
September 27, 2008 - 00:12 ET by jdhawkI thought Senator McCain did a great job. He was masterful in the realm of foreign affairs. He was walking circles around bambi (aka problem: high gas prices; solution: tune up and inflate tires; next).
The issue of the emphasis on Iraq or Afghanistan was explained well by McCain. bambi spent a lot of his debate time defending his past naive remarks which included is fool rant about bombing our Pakistani ally. Another example was bambi's initial remarks regarding Georgia when that issue erupted.
In regards to tax cuts and health care, Senator McCain needs to really articulate the conservative stance on this. Taxes on high wage earners is exorbitant already and rose 2% over the last eight years despite President Bush's tax cuts. Presenlty, 1% of the population pays 39% of all taxes; 50% of the population pays 86% of the taxes. The bottom half pay no taxes and 40% of them get money back. McCain should remind voters that health care is already 50% run by the government and they are doing a poor job of that - no surprise.
Meanwhile, Senator McCain did explain the value of tax cuts to businesses. I think he was able to make the connection that lowering not raising taxes on business keeps jobs here in America.
Again, overall, Senator McCain trounced the dimocrat from Chicago.
I would like to see some
September 27, 2008 - 00:14 ET by Dan The Man 2I would like to see some fact checking Obama and McCain, some real checking not this biased crap.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan the Man , fact check is
September 27, 2008 - 01:12 ET by mastersofdeceitDan the Man , fact check is workin on it.
But there's a new Obama FC up that's gauranteed not to be covered on any TV channel or newspaper.
Obama's Trade Trickery
An Obama ad implies that a Pennsylvania plant sent jobs overseas and says that McCain is to blame. That's wrong.
And I also enjoyed this one:
Call of the Wild
A wildlife group's ad attacks Palin for supporting the shooting
of wolves from airplanes. She does, but there's more to it than that.
Halperin and Klein are not biased /sarc off
September 27, 2008 - 00:54 ET by slphttp://www.time.com/...
http://www.time.com/...
CNN
September 27, 2008 - 01:18 ET by MSD6After the debate Dana Bash interviewed a McCain campaign spokesperson who obviously was presenting McCain in the best possible light. Three times CNN commented about her job to "spin" the debate discussion in favor of McCain. Next up was Joe Biden who was standing in as spokesperson for Obama's performance. Not once did CNN refer to Biden's take as "spin". I guess in CNN's view only the republicans can spin.
Eveeeel, right-wing
September 27, 2008 - 07:08 ET by Roger the ShrubberEveeeel, right-wing Mellon-Scaife Neocon mouthpiece gets it right:
"It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them," wrote French playwright Caron de Beaumarchais in "The Barber of Seville." Barack Obama bore an uncanny resemblance to that remark Friday night in the first presidential debate with John McCain.
The often stammering Democrat nominee showed yet again -- to borrow a phrase he filched from Hollywood -- that he doesn't get it, especially when it comes to matters economic.
Sen. Obama seemed to blame the current financial crisis primarily on some mythical Republican ideology "that regulation is always bad." And in the World According to Barack, no economic policies predating the Bush administration could possibly have contributed to the implosion.
The junior senator of Illinois also endlessly played the class-warfare card, oddly implying that the investment needed to create jobs -- an investment climate that his policies would kill -- somehow comes from the "bottom up," not the top down.
And Sen. Obama repeatedly misrepresented his proposed massive tax increases as tax cuts for virtually all. It's a neat trick that is political charlatanism at its worst.
Throw in his bumbling, stumbling and naivete on national security and foreign policy and Barack Obama came across last night as exactly what he is -- one of the most inexperienced politicians ever nominated for president.
And John McCain never looked more presidential.
Obama's Economic Experience?
September 27, 2008 - 08:01 ET by lareeBurning Down the House, What Caused the Economic Crisis.
Everyone should watch this video, and pass it around it needs to go viral. When I watched the debates last night, I had watched this video earlier it made me view the debates in a whole new light. The MSM reporting what has happening with Wallstreet right now but they are not reporting on how we got there. Why is that? Well a bunch of those networks are in the tank for Obama. What you are not being told and why.
http://www.youtube.c...
Burning Down The House Yanked Off You Tube
September 27, 2008 - 15:20 ET by PicnicI was just checking on this video to watch it again, and it has been made "unavailable" on You Tube. I had already sent links to people on it, where else could it be found now? Thanks //
Hey Picnic... I just went
September 27, 2008 - 15:29 ET by bigtimerHey Picnic...
I just went back and checked to see if the link I sent to some still worked today, I sent some other friends the link this morning so I was curious before I sent it...
...it is still woking on my end.
I'll post it here for you.
Hope it works.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Still not working on my computer
September 27, 2008 - 15:41 ET by PicnicBut my husband can follow the link on the email I sent him and it is working on his laptop--I will keep trying. I keep getting the message that "We're sorry, this video is no longer available". Feels like the Twilight Zone. Thanks for your help!
Picnic... Wow, that is
September 27, 2008 - 15:51 ET by bigtimerPicnic...
Wow, that is weird...I checked here too, and it worked.
Don't know quite what to say...but if your husband got it okay it must something in your sysytem?
Heck, I'm not computer savvy so....wishing you luck as I know how frustrating that can be.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
It's Working again!!
September 27, 2008 - 16:10 ET by PicnicHi bigtimer- I too am pretty basic with techno stuff, so I figured, when in doubt-turn it off and try again. I signed off the internet and went back on again and all is well. Love that video! McCain-Palin need to hammer it home.