The late Erma Bombeck used to say that God gave mothers an endless supply of spit, for just such occasions as this, and spots on chins, etc. I guess it kicks in early! LOL
"Have mom spit on a kleenex, hell, you can get rust off a trailer hitch with that."
Or something like that. I loved Foxworthy's old stand-up but haven't heard it in years.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
As the oldest of five brothers I have done the same to my brothers...I was just waiting for the msm trying to make a huge deal out of this all...in the derogatory.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
Remember that the people that post on the Leftie blogs have the mental capacity of an 8 year-old. They tend to use intellectual terms such as "eeewwww." These are the same idiots that smash windows in towns where the "adults" show up to run the Country and the World (like the Republican Convention and the G8) while the adolescents' act like .. well .. adolescents. They get Press credentials from the Leftie Press (the same Leftie Press that was observed cheering and clapping during Obam-uh-uh-uh's Greek-god speech) and disrupt a speech by OUR candidate. They embrace "free speech," but ONLY if you speak what they approve of. Otherwise, they shout you down.
So .. while the ADULTS held a civil, meaningful, productive Convention that was viewed by more Americans than the coronation ceremony at Acropolis (Denver), most Americans, fortunately, are becoming aware of the smell of rotten fish -- Obam-uh-uh-uh is last week's catch!!!
(or Williams, or Mitchell, or Matthews, or Chetry, or.....)
Here Trig, let me act as a stand-in for our mother as she goes off and neglects her duties as a woman to take care of the children she so callously brought into this world.
you should be ashamed of your self. What would your mother say if she saw that. Now go stand in the corner till you can say your sorry for that. Be lucky youngster that you dont get a woopin when your father gets home
Guns and Violence are not the answer but they are one solution to the problem== SARG
fell in love with the Palins when we saw these shots! Piper is adorable!!! The unconditional love of the entire family and their respect for one another comes across loud and clear! My hope is that it will strengthen their resilience as the future brings forth all the msm venom. And then "they" wonder why "good, ordinary" people don't want to run for office! May more and more of the msm issue more and more pink slips in the days ahead!!!
Hopefully the respect, admiration, love and prayers from all of us will help the Palin family realize they are not alone!
This picture encapsulates not only some sort of perfect family values platform but also has somehow convinced you that Palin is prepared for the perfectly legitimate possibility of being the POTUS?
Really?!
Yes, it's very cute and all. But it is also no different from what big sisters do with their little brothers all the time. Politically, morally, ideologically, it represents nothing! I can't believe all the people on this board being taken in by this.
Is Obama's family somehow less adorable and precocious? Do they project less, somehow, in the way of family values?
If you believe Palin will be a good leader, great. I think she's wrong on everything except drilling. We can argue about those issues. But being swayed by sentimental nonsense like this is tremendously sad.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Interesting translation. Actually, I offered to debate the issues with you. What does election-stealing have to do with anything. What I will not do is sit by uncritically while people act like Palin's children's cuteness is demonstrative of a single thing. Grow up. The POTUS election is not an Anne Geddes photo op.
And again, a serious question: is Obama's family somehow deficient in the family values/photogenic departments? That appears to be the implication.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Hmm, preferring pastry and whipped lard to a leafy green (grown by American farmers, I might add). That might explain a few things.
Liberal trophies on your wall? You must be kidding. As far as I can tell, all you can do is imitate petulant children. What is a 'woobie', anyway?
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
I may add that the cold, milky white substance known as Cool-Whip, not Kool-Aid is made by Americas finest dairy farmers. What? Let me guess they're not really farmers because they grow something from a cow.
I didnt' know what a woobie was when I was a child either Jason, but now I do. If you dont', no doubt your still a child, grow up !
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
Wow, well done! Cool Whip is non-dairy and synthetic, containing no cream or milk. Hence: Whipped Lard. Oops!
Though frankly it wouldn't surprise me that a lot of Americans prefer it to a vegetable.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
non-dairy and synthetic, the same substance as your liberal arguments,.......plus they're way past they're expiration dates. Liberals have'nt had a good idea in over forty years and you cant' vaccuum seal that..
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
Hot damn, great comeback! If you torture that metaphor any more, I'll have to call Amnesty International.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
JasonC, get a life. If one of Hussein O kids had done that out of the blue everyone would have thought it cute except the elitest Michelle, she would say it's not good for her children. Did anyone have a ball at the DNCC show like Rudy and Sarah did at the RNCC? Even the terrorists wing of the democrat party failed and only got shouted down, made fun of, and thrown out.
There is no joy or smiles in democrat lefty world, everything is a disaster.
I had a little curl as a child that fell on my forehead, it was spit shined many times. Didn't help, it's still there 67 years later. I don't care what my hair does as long as it doesn't fall out. Come to think of it falling out would save money on haircuts.
i step away from NB for a spell and nothing changes. i catch one person not goose stepping and what do they get?
- accusations of being a whining liberal baby
- being called a troll, troll TROLL!
- "get a life" ?!
>sigh<
if she wants lick her brother or nephew or whoever that little kid is, who cares? what's really the joke here is that people are having a debate about it.
what does a little kid licking another little kid has to do with exposing liberal bias?
i step away from NB for a spell and nothing changes. i catch one person not goose stepping and what do they get?
- accusations of being a whining liberal baby
- being called a troll, troll TROLL!
- "get a life" ?!
>sigh<
So sorry troll. Know that a living special needs child that is breathing fresh air and is loved and cherished, instead of lying in a dumpster, wrapped in plastic behind a Planned Parenthood Office truly offends you.
if she wants lick her brother or nephew or whoever that little kid
is, who cares? what's really the joke here is that people are having a
debate about it.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
What nonsense. If you all want to believe that a picture of a little girl doing what any average little girl would do while holding her baby brother is somehow indicative of Palin's worldview and abilities, be my guest; but that is just sad.
Someone actually wrote: "I sense some good parenting." Yeah, I'm sure the Palin's are fine parents. But ascertaining that from a picture like this...am I supposed to take that seriously?
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
It's a useful metaphor. Let's not get all squeamish now. That would be disingenuous given the Left's frantic efforts to destroy this family. Now that's disgusting.
Hey bal, useless but true. At any rate Keith Olbermann just said it's ok because Trig is the son of a conservative. You know, we should all be aborted, even after nine months.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
You just need to get out more, or at least go back and re-read what your fellow travelers at KOS, DU, and HP are spewing.
And I don't think anyone's trying to destroy this family.
I can only gather that you have had the televsion, radio, and your computer off for the last week. Seriously, Bal - no one is trying to destroy this family? Are you so anxious to to surrender your credibility?
You are in serious denial over this (in my never to be humble opinion, of course). Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I do respect your efforts to distance yourself from the Left-wing Blogosphere.
Sorry. "Destroy her family" is just outside my ability to suspend disbelief, just like that bus in "Speed" jumping over the unfinished part of the highway. :-)
There is no convincing Bal on this one, regardless of the reams of data which have accumulated in the past week. No matter how many times you hose him down, he'll deny that water is wet. They didn't go after Quayle this fast. Goodness, after typing that last sentence, I took a few moments to really wrap my brain around that. They did go after Quayle like this fast. Just when you thought...
Don't project your fantasies onto me, weirdo. I'm perfectly happy to admit it's a cute picture - I can even laugh at the captions offered here, like "you've got some liberal on you." Where I draw the line is falling into the belief that this sort of picture speaks volumes about Palin's experience or competency. That's all. Take your necrophilia elsewhere.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Projecting? Dude, do you even have the least bit of gleaning of what your fellow KOSBOTs gleefully write? You can't seriously sit there and tell me that this sort of vitriol hasn't been standard fare for the last 8 years from the Left. I'll be generous and allow that perhaps this is not your personal feeling, but if you claim to march in the ranks of the Left, then you're going to have a difficult time avoiding guilt by association.
I don't "march" with any "ranks." And if you want to assume that anyone left of you is a drooling, unintelligent, crass "Kosbots," then frankly you are clueless about the reality of ideological division in this country. You think the average left-leaning citizen hangs out on sites like that, or talks shit about the Palins just for sport? Your generosity notwithstanding, if these are the black-and-white terms in which many conservatives view the US populace, it will continue to be easy to out-argue them on the issues.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
There are some closet liberals that say such things to hide their true identity. Where you fail in your trickery is the simple fact that you expend most of your efforts criticizing the right and people of that ilk while you only feign criticism of the left, only in the posts where you're attacking the right. So, you're only fooling yourself if you think you're coming across as non-partisan without a dog in the fight.
Sarge, I am admittedly and openly left-leaning. That does not put me in league with the doofuses at DK. That is all I'm saying. I'm more critical of conservative's values because I belive they are largely wrong. But I will argue points, not say outlandish things.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Well, make up your mind then! So, you do have your 'rank' and file that you march with afterall. Imagine that? Just because a majority of those that share your beliefs are cause for embarrassment doesn't invalidate this fact.
Frankly, I think that you'll find a more receptive audience at the Daily Koz that you'll find here. Because, as a whole, I think that the audience here is already familiar with socialism, liberalism, Marxism, etc.
You will find no converts here. Hence, you are merely trolling.
I'm interested in spirited conversation, not conversion. You are obviously unclear on the definition of 'trolling'. I have gone out of my way to answer every response, no matter how histrionically my comments are misinterpreted. And my original post was a perfectly reasonable critique. I was more than willing to just jokingly add to one of the submitted captions above (quoting Jeff Foxworthy). When one poster abandoned the captionfest theme to make a comment about how this picture validates Palin as a sound VP pick, I felt that I was justified in responding critically.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
You continue to think in black and white terms. I've never denied holding liberal ideologies. I've been posting here for 2.5 years and have repeatedly referred to myself as liberal. But that does not mean that I engage in the same uninformed, inarticulate, mean-spirited blather as some people who hold the same positions as I do. I hate Code Pink and DK. Just as many conservatives probably resent Michael Savage and Ann Coulter for making their side look so bombastic and cruel. Get it? I may have overlapping beliefs, but I do not affiliate with the Democratic Party, MoveOn, DailyKos, or any other conformity-driven organ of boutique liberalism.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
And I have yet to see a convincing post by you showing the merits of anything liberal.
Quit changing the goalposts. This thread hasn't been about the merits of liberal positions. It WAS about Palin, now for some reason it's about me overexplaining the obvious fact that not all liberals go about things the way that people on DK and CodePink do.
I don't even know what the Obama gun control thread is, much less how it pertains to me.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
I never said anything about Palin. Just pointing out the fraud of your assertion that you're an 'individualist' free of being in lock-step with anyone all the while that you only coincidently agree almost 100% with those that you do not 'march' with. Nothing about Palin. Nice diversion there, liberal.
Oh really? Gun-control has always been a hot topic. Your absence in either the defense or support of Obama is quite telling. Again, this demonstrates the fact that you are more comfortable critiqing others opinions on the issues than receiving criticism of your own. Quite the slippery fellow, aren't you?
OK, you just don't get it. Fine. I'm not explaining it again. I think I've ruined the captionfest board enough. This sub-thread was about my critique of people thinking Palin is a conservative messiah and their dubious use of things like this picture as "evidence". If you want to think that having liberal ideologies puts me in league with bomb-throwing, troglodytic leftist websites, fine. I'll just assume that you think Michael Savage is a reasonable guy and that you attend Aryan Nation meetings. No cognitive dissonance there, right?
I still don't know what thread you're referring to. But to give my position, I'm in favor of people being allowed to purchase guns with background checks and other safeguards in place, similar to the rigamarole people have to go through to drive or fly. I despise the NRA, and I wish that 2nd Amendment absolutists would acknowledge the crucial dependent clause that precedes "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is also part of the amendment and that, therefore, perhaps the founding fathers did not mean for private citizens to stockpile assault rifles for personal use. There's my position. Black and white. No slipperiness.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
lol... again, the Palin reference? Can't you keep your long-winded, sanctimonious replies straight?? Evidently not, since you can't even navigate a website worth a damn. Nor see a thread that's right in front of your face, the third or fourth one down. Try clicking on 'HOME'.
So, you don't throw bombs? Well, that's about the only difference you've demonstrated so far between you and the usual collection of foaming at the mouth liberals. Your ignorance of the Second Amendment is testament to that.
Trace this thread back. You jumped in after I defended myself against Blazer's obscene remarks about Palin's youngest son. This thread is very much about Palin.
Since I'm sooo ignorant about the 2nd amendment, please explain to me why the dependent clause about a well-regulated militia is so easily discarded.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
You implied that I made a comment about Palin, idiot. I did not. I didn't say it wasn't a thread about Palin either. Can't you keep your bloviating crap straight???
The Second Amendment is about defending liberty from threats both foreign and domestic, ignoramus. Read what the Founding Fathers said about the issue, not what some liberal Supreme Court judge opined. It is an individual right.
Read what the Founding Fathers said about the issue, not what some liberal Supreme Court judge opined.
Way to pass the buck. Now I have to do your work for you? I'm going by the actual, semantic words in the 2nd Amendment. You, for some reason, requested my position on gun laws. I have given it. If you have something to say about it, say it.
I'll also refrain from calling you childish names since, when you do it, it only highlights the emptiness of your posts. You jumped on a thread and accused me of certain rhetorical tactics vis-a-vis my remarks (and other liberals' remarks) on Palin, who is the topic of this board/thread. I regret being responsible for so significantly derailing the captionfest, but it's there in black and white.
We're done. Good day.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
You're the one that needs an education on the Second Amendment, not me. So, it's not about 'passing the buck', but educating your ignorant ass. The fact remains, the Second Amendment is an individual right. Not an entitlement like you declared on another thread. Call it childish if you want, but on this issue you are an ignoramus.
More sanctimonious blather? What a surprise! I did not make any remark Palin like you alledged and now you're looking like an idiot refusing to admit it. Go ahead and attack and divert from that simple FACT!
P.S. Feel free to come and relieve me of my right to keep and bear firearms.
You're the one that needs an education on the Second Amendment, not me.
I'm going by the exact words in the constitution. You're the one telling me I have to look at other things that the founding fathers said or did. A constitutional absolutist, who dislikes SCOTUS interpretations and the whole "living, breathing document" argument would, I'd think, be able to go on the words in the 2nd amendment in and of themselves. The dependent clause concerning militia is obviously there for a reason. If you want me to think differently you could at least direct me toward whatever writings you're going on.
The fact remains, the Second Amendment is an individual right.
How do you know? In the Bill of Rights, it is explicitly linked to a well-regulated militia. You can certainly argue that it should be an individual right, but that's not what the 2nd Amendment actually says.
Not an entitlement like you declared on another thread. Call it childish if you want, but on this issue you are an ignoramus.
OK I remember that thread now. But I did not use entitlement to refer solely to gun rights. Reread carefully. My reference to gun rights was a reductio ad absurdum argument to make a point about abortion.
I did not make any remark Palin like you alledged and now you're
looking like an idiot refusing to admit it. Go ahead and attack and
divert from that simple FACT!
Your reading comp skills are lacking. I didn't say you made a remark about Palin directly. I said that you attacked me and my rhetorical style and lumped me in with DK regarding comments I made about Palin. I therefore consider Palin to be integral to this thread. Disagree if you want, but please stop calling me an idiot.
P.S. Feel free to come and relieve me of my right to keep and bear firearms.
Did I stutter before? I said I'm in favor of the right to personal gun ownership. I merely disagree that it's literally enshrined in the BoR. Way to resort to tough-guy threats, though. We're all very impressed that you talk such a manly game on an anonymous forum.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
read the Federalist Papers to see what the intent of the 2nd amandment was. Also the SCOTUS just ruled that the 2nd amendment referred to an individual right to bear arms.
On second look, I'll admit my analogy was over the top JC and apologise to you and anyone else that was offended. However you chose to jump in here and crap up the thread.
I'm sure Obama spending more time campaigning through his carreer than actual legislating sits fine with you because as you stated above your a liberal and so you share his ideaology and can overlook experience.
Palin has a great deal of legislative and executive experience, but even if she didn't, wouldn't we vote for her anyway because we share her beliefs?
There lies the callousness and hypocrisy of your statement
You admit you come here to a conservative oriented site for intelligent conversation and debate and mostly forego the leftist ones. Trust me they desperately need you over there, they are in dire need of intelligence.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason, if you assert your individualism, I'll take it on face value.
And if you want to assume that anyone left of you is a drooling, unintelligent, crass "Kosbots,"...
Assumptions are based on the facts at hand, and we go with them until additional facts reveal otherwise. I'll even buy into that you were genuinely offended by certain hateful thoughts being attributed to you. That being said, such thoughts are expressed by the left on the nutroots sites as a matter of course, and therefore reasonable conclusions are going to be made about the libs who post here. To be fair, you know what side of "aisle" your are on when you post here, so differentiating yourself in a positive light is something you are going to have to do from time to time.
Morning. I don't know about your neck of the woods, but in mine it's hot and humid as a sauna. That may have gotten me in a fighting mood. I'd prefer that my posts be taken on their own, if possible. I don't lump all conservatives together and assume that they're all as nasty as Michael Savage, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy. That being said, though I rarely take offense at things, I think Blazer was ridiculously out of line with his disgusting comment about how I regard Palin's children. If there are posters out there who have said that her 6-month-old child SHOULD have been aborted (and I have not seen any such thing myself), then I thoroughly and enthusiastically secede from that strain of modern liberalism.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
I think using this image as a decision of who to elect to the Whitehouse is completely appropriate, perhaps more so than any political speech.
Consider- the MSM has spent the past week trying to convice everyone that Gov. Palin is nothing but and overly ambitious, neglectful mother. Can anyone on earth look at this image and suggest that these children are anything but extraordinarily well cared for? 7 years olds don't put on shows for political points. They are who they are, which is nothing more than a reflection of how well their parents care for them and are raising them.
Further, if you are looking to elect someone who supports positive family values, that picture is worth more than 1,000 speeches and pundit analysis.
This is where you are wrong. You could take 1,000 pictures of a day in the lives of the most abusive, backwards, Jerry Springeresque, white trash family in the country and you might happen to snap a pic of a 6-year-old spitting on her hand while holding her baby brother.
Now, of course, I have to make the insistent caveat that I am NOT calling the Palins any of those awful adjectives above.
But no, sorry, if you are taken in by this picture to believe a host of things about Palin's competence and values, then you are remarkably susceptible to pathos over realpolitic.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Wrong, Jason. This is a totally unscripted picture. Lots of people have tried to use pictures in the past to project their values. Kerry windsuring; the Clintons on the beach; Gore and his sloppy kiss. Those, though, were scripted and didn't work. But this picture, like John saluting his father's coffin, are genuine and do reflect the fundamental values we as a society are trying to instill in our families -- your words and bias not withstanding.
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I do not believe, nor did I in any way suggest, that this picture was scripted. My criticism lies not with the Palins or the picture itself; it is 100% with the way that the picture is being received here.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
recieved by THE MEDIA! This is a blog of Palin supporters and of course we will fawn over her cute children. THE MEDIA went on and on about how adorable the Obama girls were and they had speaking roles. It was also obvious that one of Obama's daughters was prompted to give him a chance to correct his error about what city he was in.
Please don't tell us that you aren't voting for Obama. It's not believable so just keep it to yourself if it's true. We won't believe your denials so it's pointless for you to say it. You rarely criticize Obama and when you do it's very general. It only makes all your arguments weaker when you deny that you want him to win. If you start bringing up even 1//2 as many criticisms of Obama as you do about McCain then maybe we will believe you. What's the point anyway? Are your arguments only valid in the context of not liking Obama as you claim?
He's a closet Obamabot. No question. He feigns 'individualism' while spending the vast majority of his efforts trashing McCain, the right, Republicans, etc. He's a fraud.
I'm still waiting for a valid argument about anything of substance, as important to our everyday lives a 'captionfest' might be.
Many liberals truly convince themselves that they are the only ones who can be objective. When it comes down to it; we are ALL our own people and none of us agree 100% with each other let alone any candidate. In a two party system though, it comes down to who has MORE in common with you.
Jason is not as bad as some of them like Bruzilla, at least he admits he's left leaning. I really find it pointless for anyone to claim "objectivity" to bolster their arguments. It's a red flag that bias is to follow. If you are arguing one side then you are not objective. Period.
I'm more objective than anyone I know but I don't claim that in my arguments (except this one). ; )
In other posts he danced around the issue of what he was. Now, he's dancing around his absence of criticism of a guy that he's supposedly not supporting when it would appear that he has MORE in common with Obama than McCain, based on his posts. Hence, fraud. He has of plenty of criticsm for anyone expressing a choice while he hides his. Easy to be a critic in that circumstance.
As far as being a kinder, gentler liberal goes.. when you put lipstick on a pig you still have a pig.
If you start bringing up even 1//2 as many criticisms of Obama as you do about McCain then maybe we will believe you.
Please show me where I have so ruthlessly criticized McCain. Good luck...
And no, I am not voting for Obama.
And you have thoroughly misunderstood my remarks on this picture. As I've said, my criticism is not about the existence of the picture. I have not referred to it as scripted or as cheap political theater, as many seem to want me to have done. My criticism lies entirely with the way it is being received as anything more than what it is: a cute picture.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
by saying this is a blog filled with a large number of Palin supporters - it's not like it's a supposedly unbiased MEDIA who fawned over Obama's children even though they were used much more as props being given speaking roles at the convention and a lengthy Access Hollywood interview. Give me a break. There is nothing wrong with supporters fawning over their candidates children and using it to enforce what ever else they like about the candidate.
I'll revise my statement to criticisms about McCain to say if you criticized liberal blather and nonsense nearly half as much as you criticize conservatives then maybe we would believe you didn't want Obama to win.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Twisted logic = Not deciding about a politician's merit based on a cute picture of her children.
Got it. If that's the criteria, I prefer being "twisted".
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason, you have to admit, among the thousand words speaking from this picture, we have here two very much loved and cared for children. One would have to be deliberately dense not to glean that. While certain details can not be acertained, this particular concept is pretty obvious.
Am I to believe that Obama's daughters are less loved? Even if I submit that this picture is somehow particularly indicative of good parenting, what does it have to do with an election? Does this make up for lack of foreigh policy experience? For the fact that she supported Buchanan in 2000? That I think she's wrong on almost every issue? &c..&c....
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Am I to believe that Obama's daughters are less loved?
I am certain that the Obamas love their children as much as any set of parents.
...this picture ...what does it have to do with an election?
As far as the range of domestic and foreign policy issues which we care about, not a lot. As far as the character of the family of the person on the bottom of the ticket, it,s an interesting posititve snapshot.
...make up for ...the fact that she supported Buchanan in 2000?
To assume that this is somehow something to be "made up for" is infantile. You were actually making coherent points, albeit points with which I disagree up to then. I'm going to let you go on this one.
...lack of foreigh policy experience?
We've already addressed this one in another part of this thread. Her dealings with provincial officials of Canada and Russia while not on par with living on embassy row in Georgetown, puts her miles ahead of the top of the ticket on the other side of this election.
That I think she's wrong on almost every issue?
Well, that's what this debate forum is all about, isn't it?
To assume that this is somehow something to be "made up for"
is infantile. You were actually making coherent points, albeit
points with which I disagree up to then. I'm going to let you go on
this one.
Pesky, I appreciate that you're actually reading and attempting to understand my comments, even if you disagree. Disagreement is fine. I was not suggesting that the picture needs to be made up for; just the opposite, really, that posters on here are treating it as though it not only makes up for, but eradicates glaring deficiencies in Palin's policies, history, and preparedness.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Infantile was too strong a term. I just think that recieving Buchanan was simply the actions of a small town mayor doing what is done when a dignitary comes to visit. I don't know if she was a member of the "Brigades," or simply "ribbon cutting." In either case, I just don't think supporting someone, like Buchanan is something that rises to the level of a negative for anyone.
From a political perspective, I have given up trying to pin PB down on many issues, given the degree of overlap with his policy positions.
As far the picture, yes there is a lot of extrapolation going on, much of which is subjective. Beyond two children who are obviously loved, there are very few solid take-aways.
Indeed. I realize that I overdetermined the Buchanan issue and admitted my wrongness below.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
2. Liberals need to check themselves when they being flinging the "foreign policy" experience talking point poo around. Palin has as much foreign policy experience running as VP as Obama does running as president. Comparing apples and oranges, and is comical.
So, let's sum this up: Jason needs to refresh his talking points (or get them from a better source), and admonishingyour opponent's #2's "lack of experience" when your own #1 has a woefully-small amount just makes you look, well, rather silly.
I'm not voting for Obama, and this thread is about Palin. So....yeah. Your post is pretty much worthless.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
I live in a solidly blue state. My vote is meaningless. I'll vote libertarian on principle, Barack will take my state effortlessly, and the electoral system will once again have failed, de facto, to take into account the votes of more than a small fraction of Americans.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Between the two prospects, McCain being president and Obama being president, which one scares you more? Pick one, even if it's a narrow margin, and not "they both do equally" (although, I'm guessing that will be your answer.)
There's always gay lounges and private "parties" you could do.. Stop the videos.. ask your boyfriends for a "reach around"! -- Rog "all class" the Shrub, YouTube :p
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Many others here have more than adequately explained how this picture (and I agree, it was an unscripted moment) refutes much of the left wing blather and questioning about how on earth Sarah Palin will be able to handle the demands of motherhood AND a big job.
Maybe the picture was put up by the editors as a fun and joyful change of the noxious diet of Obama/Hillary we've had for the last however many months. The last CapFest I thought was on a par with this one was the poor guy in the flood, mowing the grass on his new island home.
That's it Jason...this picture is here for some fun!
Personally, I'd have put up the picture of young Miss Piper Palin on stage w/her family Wednesday night, waving to the crowd, doing her best Queen Elizabeth imitation. The kid is obviously a superstar, even in that crowded family.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
My mom and I have taken to calling her Queen Elizabeth every time we see her.
Piper reminds me of my little sister at the same age, whom we used to call "twelve stars" (it was a cheerleading jump). The superstar quality is unmistakable.
And I just have to say it...although I have qualms about commenting on the Palin family (inasmuch as I think families should be accorded the privacy they deserve). The poise and grace of each member of their family (and the soon to be member) is astounding under this insane media spotlight. Kudos.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Are you trying to say that the posters here were formerly unsure about Palin now suddenly because of this adorable picture have now seen the light and that Palin is miraculously qualified. Because from what I have read, many posters here were already fans, myself included, and were just enjoying the beautiful reflection of family in this captionfest. But in typical liberal fashion, you have taken something sweet and twisted it to your own enjoyment of derailing a thread. Bravo! Be proud! This was your moment.
You know, Mr Liberal, you're really jumping to a nonsensical conclusion there -- a trademark of Liberals. NO ONE said that images such as the one above imply or state that therefore Sarah "must be a good mother" or "makes her prepared to be a good VP." Sheez! All it shows is that she has a loving family that cares for each other, and she must be doing 'something' right.
Or would you have preferred that she push her little brother down, like a lot of little brothers and sisters do?
The whole COUNTRY is talking about this video. It was a great touchy-feely spontaneous moment. Ever see the pic of John Jr. playing under the desk in the Oval Office?
I don't recall anyone saying this "sentimental nonsense" is a reason to vote for Palin. It is irrelevant in terms of "the issues." If you want issues, there are plenty of threads out here about "the issues." This is the caption thread. See the relevance in talking about the pic here?
I think it speaks volumes about this family. This is what "walking the walk" of family values is really about. That little girl was exhibiting learned behavior. That's pretty relevant to me and to many. Socially, politically, ideologically, AND morally. It demonstrates more than political lip-service to those issues.
Trying to deconstruct it to belittle it and being cynically immune to this "sentimental nonsense" is what I find "tremendously sad."
You want issues? Does it prove Palin's ready to step up if something happens to McCain? Hell no, that's an obvious straw-man argument.
But... Is OBAMA ready to step up right now? When will the left realize that the "inexperienced" sword cuts both ways?
Rhetorical. I know my answer, and I'm sure I can guess at yours.
As I said above, I rather regret so severely derailing the captionfest. I had no idea my original comment would snowball so severely. It's a very cute and endearing picture. And I never suggested that it was scripted. Not once. But the moment it turned from captions and exclamations of "So cute!" to the inevitable raving about how this would help her campaign so much, I felt the need to critique. Simply put, Palin could be mother of the year, it wouldn't make me feel any better about her being leader of the free world. The suggestion that mere 'cuteness' - or that she's a good parent - could sway independent voters is eminently disturbing to me. If that sort of thing is ideologically and morally important to you, fine. I am of the belief that the POTUS need not necessarily be someone who I admire personally or who I would "have a beer with". The fact that she taught her daughter to spit-shine her little brother's hair (learned behavior, right) holds no water for me as far as her political abilities. The thought of swing voters being influenced by it is sickening to me. And again, I am not criticizing the picture itself - not once - only it's apparent power to affect voters.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Actually Jason I agree.The picture is cute.What is going to draw swing voters and independants will be Sarah.For a change there will be a chance to have someone in that isnt part of the beltway crowd.As far as you being a Kos Kid,Huff and Puff or DU poster that is BS.Even though we dont agree on certain things you post in a civil manner.Your wrong of course because I am always right.Ask me.
Just a note:I really hate to see the forum become Daily Kos and such.They dont accept any view but their own.If you dont follow their narrow agenda your dogmeat.
"This picture encapsulates not only some sort of perfect family values platform but also has somehow convinced you that Palin is prepared for the perfectly legitimate possibility of being the POTUS?"
NO ONE on this thread posted that because of this picture they have somehow become convinced that Palin is prepared to be POTUS. From the posts I read, Palin was defended with facts, and not this picture. And this thread was derailed because your criticisms were being challenged and answered.
"The suggestion that mere 'cuteness' - or that she's a good parent - could sway independent voters is eminently disturbing to me."
Is it "disturbing" to you that Jon Stewart's Daily Show is considered by many to be a legitimate news source?Probably 90% of the people I know do not pay close attention to politics. They are going to decide on the basis of what they hear on the "Today" show or "Oprah" etc. And you are "eminently disturbed" by a picture of a five year old, sweetly holding her brother that might endear Sarah Palin to someone. Does is equally disturb you that an overwhelming majority of African American voters are going to vote for Obama because he was born to an African American father?
You see, the thing is, we have no way of knowing how something is going to "sway" a voter. Should we make sure that pictures which may flatter a candidate in any way not be allowed. Because there a numerous photos and adoring articles about Obama. Would you be eminently disturbed by these?
I never said you were criticizing the picture itself, just that you stated it "has somehow convinced" posters here "that Palin is prepared for the perfectly legitimate possibility of being the POTUS?"
That is the statement I challenged as being ridiculous. And I stand by the fact that it was ridiculous.
The pathetic thing is, the AP states that these two children are simply pawns used by the GOP. WTH said "[The AP writer] seems to imagine that, since the GOP objected to the media attempting to use the kids against Governor Palin, that the GOP shouldn't be allowed to have the kids attend the convention to see their Mother accept her nomination".
Does this photo indicate a meaness on the part of Palin, McCain, or the GOP? Only the most vile amongst us can wish that these two had never been invited to see their mother's speech. Pathetic.
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But I didn't see any of this sort of criticism from the MSM when the Obama paraded their girls around to every magazine that would take pictures of them and had them participating in a scripted "family moment" at their convention.
So am I to understand that because the MSM film the Palin kids nonstop through the convention (after a week of attacking them) that it is more immoral than a cadidate who purposefully uses his children as props and players in his campaign?
As a parent of a disabled child I remember fondly when her brother and sister would sit with her and comb her hair and put lipstick on her. She had no idea what was going on but all she knew is that somebody loved her and it made her life happy. It made us very happy as well. She is 21 now and is still with us and now we will have an advocate in the White House.
"If you want to save the world you must be willing to make others sacrifice" ....Dogbert the green consultant
This post broke my heart but made me smile. Thank you for sharing your personal life.
"The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Wilson Reagan
For the last few days I've wondered why that moment kept popping up in my brain, why did I keep thinking about it. Then this morning Glenn Beck hit it right on the head..My mother used to do the same thing to me and my brother...up until the day she died. (and I was bald) JK. But really, she only did it because she loved my brother and me, And wanted us to be the best, and look our best. And who do you think Piper learned it from?... a mother that loves them too.
Absolutley priceless....this may have just won the election...family..and family taking care of family ...that is what this country is all about...or at least should be about...not Homo issues, not black issues, not illegal mexican issues, not whities issues.....but family issues...bottom line...
you could see the love between all the members of the Palin family! We need more exhibitions of unconditional love! God bless this family as they travel the rocky road ahead - I'm sure the msm will have a few more boulders to toss their way!
I am sorry for invading the captionfest like this, but... my daughter miscarried (she was 20 weeks along, the baby died in the womb) a few months ago. She was diagnosed a "downes" baby. Roxanne and I were still very much in love with the baby regardless of the knowledge that we were facing a challenge with her. My husband, I am sorry to say, thought it was unfair to the child to bring it into the world to face the sorrow it would have felt not being like the "normal" kids. It has come back into our minds alot since Gov. Palin's child has been a topic of discussion. Now I have just told him to stop telling me how he feels, as I know full well his position. I just tell him, "If Elizabeth had survived, you would have taken her into your arms and fell in love with her, just like we did when we found out she was on the way".
God Bless Sarah Palin for giving Trig life, instead of deciding that his life was less then worthy because of downes syndrome. He will be loved well, apparently by most Americans now also. :-)
I think because it reflects the humanness of the Palin family. Which helps us relate to them. Values are caught, not taught. She was doing her part to make her brother look good. Something I think her mother may have done for her a time or two. As I mentioned earlier the daughter of a doctor and other germaphobes may take offense. I'm getting tired of seeing Pelosi and Helen Thomas. This was cute.
Tough gal that I am, I found this bit endearing. Siblings can be at war with one another or bound in love. I sense some good parenting here. At age 60 I'm more than a few years beyond spit coifs, but I did run my fingers in water this a.m. to smooth down a bit of my guy's "bed head" before he left for the office. Guess the instinct is, well, instinctual.
Don't know if you caught it or not, but I was half-watching news this afternoon and saw Gov. Palin conduct an interview while putting her daughter's hair in a ponytail. I tend to multi-task and juggle many things in me wee brain simultaneously. My husband was strictly at work when at work, and at home when at home. Don't think either of us bested the other. With careful balancing, I could feed a baby and simultaneously dictate a position paper.
Just curious. Am assuming most of you are guys. Do you juggle or have an on/off switch.anneftx
This will help innoculate you against the gobs of spit you can expect if Mommy wins.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother. Weren't a couple of the Osmond Bros. special needs kids? The first of my two Downs cousins (sisters) was going to be institutionalized, and my Aunt said, "The hell she is, that's my baby, and she's going home with me!" She's 85, and still taking care of them.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
of the parents that raise them. Anyone with children knows this (even if we don't want to admit it when it's embarrassing behavior). This is a great and transparent view into what the Palin's home life is really like.
I don't know about John McCain, but Sarah's got my vote.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
The BOYS in my 12th grade physics class fell in love with them too--commenting how cute and adorable the little girl was. These particular boys are gonna make great husbands and fathers someday...
I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country. Stop with the military propaganda as I said nothing about his service and did not even know he served.
I don't get to post here very often anymore, and I might be on a tangent but when I saw you mention Mr. Bill, I had to jump in here for a moment.
I'm with you- he's a special guy and you are good for standing up for him and against the rabble that spews here from time to time.
My father was laid to rest today- and I have never been prouder when I received the great honor of having the American flag presented to me by the head of the Air Force color guard at his graveside- my father served during the Korean War in Alaska primarily (he was only 17 when he enlisted). Thank you, Mr. Bill, and all the servicemen and women who read and post here...I wish I could shake your hand or even give you a hug of thanks for the sacrifices you gladly made for all Americans, even the Trolls who have no clue, who are running around like mice after their messiah, the pied piper, Obama.
My sincerest condolences to you on your loss. I haven't yet lost a parent, but I am not far from it. Knowing you as I do, it is obvious your dad was a pretty stand-up guy. Heck, we all go back a pretty long way here.
Like you, I haven't the time here at NB that I once did, but I will find whatever time I need to torment this idiot troll. LOL.
Glad you had the chance to pop in here, as I have missed having you around.
You can read down this thread if you like. Misterbill did nothing to deserve the disrespect he received from the idiot in question.
While this was offensive enough, it pales in comparison to what this jerk had to say about Sarah Palin and her oldest daughter in the chat. Over the Top doesn't even begin to describe it.
BTW-Misterbill is a Korean War vet, as is my dad, who is dying from Alzheimer's.
If you know what it means to truly sacrifice for a cause, as your father did, then drop this non-productive debate. If PT is an ass**le, everyone will see this. Make sure you don't look like the puckered porthole yourself.
Misterbill is big enough to take this himself. I know that for a fact.
Thank you, I wasn't in the chat, but I did follow the thread the Dave is linking to, he is the first person that brought up misterb's service ect...not PT...all I know is what I saw on the thread...I see it's another reason why I never liked the chats when it came to what was supposedly being said on the television screen and what the subject is about minute by minute...
Personally, I have said what I want to a friend like PT and Dave...just take it to the Woodshed as far as I am concerned...all of it is getting old on who is the toughest...misterb is tougher than all combined....and he can defend himself just fine, as he did last night...
Now let's get back to the captionfest...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
I know who mister bill is, I like Mr Bill. I know pop tech isn't a Palin cheer leader. But mister bill can handle pop tech on his own, he is a war vet is he not?
Pop tech may have been rude to misterbill, but he wasn't over the top, I have seen and dealt with far worse. Like I said in that thread
threatening to leave because someone challenged mister bill's intelligence and saying his posts were "gay", even though that was rude if said to any poster, is a bit much. Calling him a troll because he disagrees with you and tends to post a lot is also a bit much. People have jumped to the wrong conclusion that pop tech is a liberal obama supporter because he doesn't like Palin. He is absolutely wrong about underestimating Palin, so challenge him on how he is wrong.
He is wrong about Palin, but as far as his conversation with Mister Bill is concern, he doesn't owes him anything. Your posts are more over the top and obnoxious then his were with Mister Bill in that thread. Maybe in the chat room he was more over the top, which is why I asked what he said...
btw, sorry about your dad, and I salute his service. Take a breath R D, he wasn't attacking your dad.
If me, or anyone else here had said the things PopTech did on a regular thread that was accessible to non-members, we would have been banned immediately.
As my father has now pretty much lost his ability to communicate, not to mention his memory, and most of his fellow Marines who shared his experiences in that war are gone now.
I have an uncle who was a Naval aviator in that war, but he is dying of cancer.
I take it, you know him personally? In any case, Mister Bill is a great man, no doubt about it. But Pop wasn't attacking him personally, he was responding to being called a liberal.
And the Mister Bill I know, loves a good fight...let him brawl :) You don't need to shadow Pop Tech, people can come to their own conclusions easily enough.
A lot of us have the same family situations Dave regarding service members ect...you aren't the only one...
You started the argument with PT about this, he never disrespected mister b's service...you just jumped in and stated as such...
Granted, I don't know what happened in the chat...but you are the one who started this.
I don't know if you have followed everything between PT and me today, I have kept silent about all of this hoping steam would finally be blown off from PT about the Palin pick, but nevertheless, he didn't pick the fight on what we all that weren't in the chat couldn't see, or could care less about actually, you did.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
Maybe you need a tune up. You aren't the only one with experiences of this sort. When my father was buried, he had a honor guard. I counted 26 Marines in dress blues. Some people call this a "Corps Burial". The reason was a name, "Iwo Jima".
All men die. But not all men made a difference. Be thankful your father was one of those who did the latter as he will the former.
You came busting in being obnoxious and picking a fight with Blonde. Everyone in the room repeatedly asked you to leave. You refused. Naturally the conversation turned to you being a troll typing away in your mother's basement, and when you kept antagonizing people, it turned ugly,
Your whole plan was to throw the chat room out of control.
hasn't been around long enough to know who is who!! he was all high and mighty to a 2yr 45 week poster (rdw i think) last week with a "don't you know who i am" attitude.
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country" poptart
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country.
Stop with the military propaganda as I said nothing about his service
and did not even know he served."
....and I'll knock whoevers teeth out that I please, because I'm sure they have great dental insurance. Your not only a tool PT, your the whole toolshed.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
If you came up to me demanding your respect, I would laugh in your face so get over it. I am surely not going to apologize to someone who mocked me intentionally and lied calling me a liberal.
But I am accusing you of being a sexist, immature brat, and your highly offensive posts here over the last week have demonstrated this beyond all doubt, particularly the ones you placed in last night's chat.
Apologize to misterbill, or I will make your continued existence here a living hell.
Gosh kath...good to see you here gal...I mentioned you somewhere about a month or so ago..I have sincerely missed you and your blunt wit like only you can do.
Very sorry about your loss... I know how it goes.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
I am not sexist (or anything else you said), no matter how many times you repeat it.
Get over the apology already, it is not coming. If he cannot handle it, maybe he should not dish it out. I didn't just blindly insult the guy so get over it - least of all what you are lying about.
Please use the inteligence we all know you have and ask a friend, family member or anyone detached from your posts of recent to read them and give you an honest critique of what you have posted. Please.
If you came up to me demanding my respect, I would laugh in your face. I am not some punk nor am I remotely little. I cannot be intimitated, unless you did something illegal.
with this manufactured propaganda campaign of lies and smears. He is now trying to paint me out to be some military hater who laughs at old veterans. All nonsense.
So a bunch of references from the NYT surrogate of Achorage Alaska are supposed to suffice for a sufficient indictment of a conservative woman? Who served as a mayor, and then as a governor. Got a gas pipeline going that sat idle behind closed door meetings as entrenched politicians and big oil execs tried to work out who was to get the money. I can't believe what you've been saying here and I can't imagine what your problem with her is, but Newsweek had this to say in 2007:
In Alaska, Palin is challenging the dominant, sometimes corrupting, role of oil companies in the state's political culture. "The public has put a lot of faith in us," says Palin during a meeting with lawmakers in her downtown Anchorage office, where—as if to drive the point home—the giant letters on the side of the ConocoPhillips skyscraper fill an entire wall of windows. "They're saying, 'Here's your shot, clean it up'." For Palin, that has meant tackling the cozy relationship between the state's political elite and the energy industry that provides 85 percent of Alaska's tax revenues—and distancing herself from fellow Republicans, including the state's senior U.S. senator, Ted Stevens, whose home was recently searched by FBI agents looking for evidence in an ongoing corruption investigation. (Stevens has denied any wrongdoing.) But even as she tackles Big Oil's power, Palin has transformed her own family's connections to the industry into a political advantage. Her husband, Todd, is a longtime employee of BP, but, as Palin points out, the "First Dude" is a blue-collar "sloper," a fieldworker on the North Slope, a cherished occupation in the state. "He's not in London making the decisions whether to build a gas line."
In an interview with NEWSWEEK, Palin said it's time for Alaska to "grow up" and end its reliance on pork-barrel spending. Shortly after taking office, Palin canceled funding for the "Bridge to Nowhere," a $330 million project that Stevens helped champion in Congress. The bridge, which would have linked the town of Ketchikan to an island airport, had come to symbolize Alaska's dependence on federal handouts. Rather than relying on such largesse, says Palin, she wants to prove Alaska can pay its own way, developing its huge energy wealth in ways that are "politically and environmentally clean."
...Although she has been in office less than a year, Palin, too, earns high marks from lawmakers on the other side of the aisle. During a debate earlier this year over a natural-gas bill, State Senate Minority Leader Beth Kerttula was astounded when she and another Democrat went to see the new governor to lay out their objections. "Not only did we get right in to see her," says Kerttula, "but she asked us back twice—we saw her three times in 10 hours, until we came up with a solution." Next week in Juneau, Alaska lawmakers will meet to overhaul the state's system for taxing oil companies—a task Palin says was tainted last year by an oil-industry lobbyist who pleaded guilty to bribing lawmakers. Kerttula doesn't expect to agree with the freshman governor on every step of the complex undertaking. But the minority leader looks forward to exploiting one backroom advantage she's long waited for. "I finally get to go to the restroom and talk business with the governor," she says. "The guys have been doing this for centuries." And who says that's not progress?"
PT, you really need to take the advice of some of the people here: take a deep breath and get someone you trust to read what you have written. Your tone has been confrontational from the start over Sarah's nomination. You are quickly eroding your standing here.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
I wonder if BHO or Biden know what a "Sloper" is? Given the MSM's penchance for "gotcha" questions, it would have been cool for one of them to ask this question to BHO or Biden: "Mr. Biden, do you believe having Sloper connections is necessarily a bad thing for Government employees"? Let's see if Biden's 35+ years in the Senate prepares him for understanding the nitty-gritty details of our oil industry.
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Thanks. I guess that makes Sarah's dude a sloper. Beyond that, I don't think Biden really understands much of anything. I cannot wait to see Sarah take the senator on.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
Darth Piper, seen holding the child she had out of wedlock, yawns when she hears McSame reguritate the talking points he was given by Karl Rove and Chimpy Hitler.
When I left Newsbusters around 5 months ago it was because of uninformed people not understanding the point of cartels were enslaving this world in the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, their financial operatives like Warren Buffet and George Soros who have manifested in one Barack Obama.
In that time a Ron Paul supporter on here was trying to get banned and like many Paul people were beyond political agitation and approaching delusion.
For those who know my blogs, I was no supporter of John McCain. I termed him Strangecain for his seeming love for nuclear war and I told him to retire and let America remember him as a hero.
I supported Fred Thompson, but as John McCain was pushed by the DailyKos mob he was what the GOP and Conservatives were stuck with.
I worked very hard getting out the policy message and prayed on it that a Conservative woman is what the ticket required to heal the rifts, make McCain solid and provide a victory.
I suggested Lynn Cheney to which I receieved a snotty reply from the Liberty Council who wanted liberal Mike Huckabee as he went to Church.
I did not give up and pushed for Mrs. Cheney or Condi Rice, neither of whom John McCain wanted or they did not want the job.
I did not get what I wanted in John McCain, nor the women, but I did get a Conservative woman in Sarah Palin.
Politics are not like getting married. You rarely have a choice and you had better make the best of the horse offered or you are going to be doing the work while Obama rides to victory.
I know the reasons behind some of the bloggers on here who are attacking Sarah Palin in not matching up to their standards in a perpetual ripping apart anyone who is not their choice.
People will note I rip Barack Obama frequently and tonight I ripped the silence of even Newsbusters on all the Obama silence and fraud.
I will offer a caveat though from before. I wrote here months ago that Newsbusters must be protected as what will we have then to forum on but Huffington or our individual blogs.
I will note that in my blogs, I have ripped Barack Obama exposing him like no one else to which I had people cheering me on the Right who were so frustrated Limbaugh etc... were not laying a glove on him all summer.
As I took on Barack Obama I never lost the FACT HE HAS TWO DAUGHTERS nor that the conclusion is Barack Obama in life needs a positive strong male like John McCain and Christian counselling to overcome his problems.
Obama is bad for America, but if America puts this 10 year old into the White House it will destroy him and destroy this nation.
Those two little girls do not need that and I have even in all I have exposed always weighed if my work would achieve a better outcome for that family.
I see enough of the attacks on Sarah Palin by those here to note that none of them look at the picture above of Piper and Trig and are stopped short of what they are really doing in savaging their mother.
I have read of charges Gov. Palin has no experience. The wife of an Alaskan fisherman with 5 children is more experience in the real world as those people die up there yearly and it is a break or break economy in fuel, danger, cold and storm.
I have read of Gov. Palin is not qualified. The Constitution begs to differ as the people with Madison deemed any citizen not a criminal, born in America and of age requirement is qualified.
America elects citizens and not qualified bloodlines or Harvard lawyers looking to be a messiah. Gov. Palin is completely qualified as is Joe Biden, although I know he is qualified for numerous indictments too.
I have read of the facts and I have read of scientific data which is supposed to be against McCain and Palin.
I only know of my assessments which are the best and only ones out there made public in profiling all 4 candidates as the Russian FSB, Chinese PLA do not make their profiling available as they used it to foment policy against an American President in his "tells".
In profiling Barack Obama and Joe Biden in their convention speeches, I logged they both did not believe what they were stating. Obama doubted he could be President and Biden knows he can not be President.
These two lied continuously in their great speeches.
In profiling Sarah Palin, I found exactly who she says she is. Her "tell" is she snarls for lack of a better word when she really makes a point she believes in. She believes in that baby above and she believes in America.
Sarah Palin is everything she has shown she is and as Jesus does not walk on water or run for office one takes what He puts on the ticket.
John McCain as I noted above I'm no fan of. He is socialist in nature, but I hope what I reveal here as I revealed in my blog has greater weight knowing I was not in his cheering section ever.
John McCain in his speech never lied once. His only negatives which did not match were he actually doesn't think his policy is as a hard as it is........which seems impossible considering he is taking on Washington and in that government now has the system to fix things, perhaps he believes individual are the source to fix things.
John McCain believes in peace, he can make peace on his terms, believes he can lead and believes in his abilities. He knows al Qaeda is not finished, Iran is constructing nuclear warheads and that in one tell he was amusing as he doesn't get hybrid cars either.
I was very uncomfortable as John McCain stunned me in who he is as much as Sarah Palin did, I had just invested a few days profiling the Democrats including Bill Clinton and they are not genuine so I expected the same from the GOP.
I instead found real people.
Cindy McCain is genuine and she believes John can do the job, never will lie as in not having lied to her and he is completely trustworthy.
The same tells come from the Palin family for Sarah Palin. As they did not speak, I do not have precise details on them.
I apologize to John McCain for this as I did in my blog, but in him there is no seperating politics from John McCain. They are one and the same in his soul.
John died twice in Vietnam. He exprienced his physical destruction and his complete psychological destruction in torture which he noted broke him.
Mr. McCain is an American Secularist. This is not what those leftist hacks attempt to state in seperation of Church and State as Jefferson never advocated that. Jefferson was against the government imposing one religion on all Ameircans.
Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh even if I kick his behind are American Secularists. I'm one too as are most here. We have our holy of holies in the White House, Capitol and Supreme Court. Our icons in Rushmore and Liberty. Our Temples in Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington and our scripture in the Constitution. We love America with our entire heart as one nation under God.
John McCain is an American Secularist. His entire speech was one of a religious revival or being saved. He was a "sinner" in not appreciating America enough, but in dying to the old John McCain in torture he was blessed as America saved him.
America is John McCain's religion under God. He loves this nation and his survival depended upon her and when broken he was told to get up and fight for her, he is going to Washington on that pure mission. He is fighting for every American and he gleaned through all candidates, checked with the most trusted person he knows in his very strong wife Cindy, and the chose Sarah Palin as the warrior who will keep John's back and to carry this on for a McCain 3rd and 4th term.
Will I fight against John McCain on social polices like illegals. You bet will, but I will fight for this man and this woman to get them there as I will submit policy as Benjamin Franklin to assist them to a better outcome instead of posting links to globalist stories whose entire purpose is to elect that Marxist 10 year old Barack Obama.
For illegals, I submit for falling apart Mexico that President McCain seize the communist foundations of Ford, MacArthur and Rockefeller of their billion dollar funds and buy up the northern Mexicans states, Americanizing them in jobs, schooling, medical and security, to create a buffer for illegals and a haven where Mexico will become a Republic and throw off the shackles of colonial socialism they are stagnating in.
This will create a beachhead trading partner of propserous people for American goods which America can funnel down as Ronald Reagan started in creating prosperous latin American states before the cartels raped their economies and installed communists like Chavez.
That is how one plays this game. You do not tear others down unless you have a fromidable policy to help assist them in building a better way as we are all in this together.
Right now Russians, central Europeans, terrorists, Chinese and Isamocommunists are attempting to destroy America. They are not going to ask as they invade if you were the one bad mouthing Sarah Palin. They will obliterate you because you are an American.
James Madison submitted a Constitution in Philadelphia he wanted. When it was over, the people he fought and railed against had instead produced a document which has stood as it was a better document being neither or and neither nor.
We are Americans people and we need to remember that just like John McCain noted as it is our highest calling. There is nothing wrong with mixing it up, but if you have nothing to build a better outcome then that is being an anarchist.
I will support Sarah Palin as she needs prayers and support now as this American nation needs support.
For those who can not look at her children and deem them enough of a reason to rethink their attacks from the right and the left, I will offer this closing.
You have just fallen into the water and are drowning, a line comes to you and you grab it. The person pulls you out and you find it is Sarah Palin.
You going to jump back in or let go of the rope?
Not on your life would you.
So if you can reason Sarah Palin is worth saving your life in being not good enough, certainly she is good enough to save your life now in this election.
Having now observed a considerable number of threads hijacked with doubly repetitive monotonous repetition, Might I take this opportunity to request we again be allowed to again engage in spirited religious discussion?
I promise we can keep it within the same boundaries of civility currently employed.
BTW, that reminds me. I know Trach left, but I haven't seen hide nor hair of Futbol either. You reckon they started their own blog and are now engaged in a debate to the death?
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
If they are in fact still going at it, I would love to lurk there.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
2 guys who look alike locked inside between universes....at each other throats forever...
maybe the mods here could do the same thing..
Once your booted from the main NB site, you can only log on and only interact with the poster you fight with. Just the 2 of you forever. ahh the internet.
I'm sorry, but this pic showed love for her little brother period! This is family learned, period! What a good sister! She shows good upbringing, period! What a good thing for Sarah. she is raising good kids! Good for her! John/Sarah '08!!
I haven't posted here for awhile but there are some people going off the rails. I think the reason that this photo was put up for the captionfest was because it was the only true, unscripted moment from both conventions. It was a breath of fresh air that made millions of people smile or chuckle or in my case belly laugh because it was just a real moment. It wasn't a "reality show" piece. It wasn't a segment created by doing focus research. It was just what it was. This photo isn't supposed to tell the world that Sarah Palin is qualified (which she is) or that she's a great mom (which she is). It's just a wonderful screengrab of a girl who loves her brother and dotes on him. That's it. No agenda. No propaganda. It just is what it is.
Roger that.
You support the troops by supporting the mission! If you don't support the mission, have the guts to say you don't support the troops.
It's just that after so many months of being politcally depressed and making the decision to not even vote this year, she has turned it all around for me. I can breathe again
Mom has electified the base. Thwick. Need to ramp it up some more. Thwick. Maybe double it. Thwick.Thwick. Logorithmically, of sorts. Thwick. We will show the media what a true love affair looks like. Thwick. Thwick. Thwick. Liberals, Loo-oo-oo-sers! Thwick.Thwick.Thwick.
This photo say one thing to the whole WORLD…. How much love this little girl has to give to her brother! It shows to us that this family loves each……… you can’t fake that!
I have been thinking about why some on the left side are so angry towards this one family… is it jealously, pure hatred for family values??? I just don’t get it. However, I have noticed one thing…. No one in the MSM is mentioning how Mr. Palin will do as a father, just how Sarah will be a “bad” mother. No one is bringing up how these two people are/been raising their children together, just how Sarah will balance out her career and motherhood. Then it dawned on me… certain folks (like NOW, ect...) don’t want to bring up this subject for it would show to the world that FATHERS have rights too! I am 100% for women’s rights to choice, but I don’t like how some (those with the loudest voices)pro-choice people are using abortion as another form of birth control! Abortion should be the last resort, not the first! I would love to see better birth control, since some women and men can’t seem to use what we have now properly! I don’t like seeing babies born with additions because of the mother……… What we need is better birth control for both sides! But with that said, I believe that certain people want to see that Father’s rights remain buried! Pro-choice use to mean that the government couldn't tell a woman she has to have babies and no birth control..... now I don't know what it means!
Face it, the liberals are furious that this "Alaskan" family is happy and loving and it isn't "orchestrated" and since most people recognize a genuine moment, and what Piper did for Trig's hair was simply a sweet and loving gesture, most likely mimiced the practice from her mother.
Whereas when we get close to the "Chicago" family we see and angry mom who has been actively training her daughters with an indoctrination into a hateful church that preaches hate and mistrust of America and whites.
"Black liberation theology" has brain washed an angry mother and she in turn will teach this hatred to her daughters...some day soon her daughters will "mimic" their angry mommy...(oh joy!)
It is in my opinion what the picture of Piper and Trig reminds people that the "other" family does not come off as genuine...and we have seen the hate that the "other" family has enveloped themselves with...aka Wright, Moss and the Catholic nutjob...Pfleger...is NOT sweet, simple or pure.
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Growing up we called them
September 5, 2008 - 15:47 ET by BuffNBoneGrowing up we called them spit baths. I'd say in the case it's an Alaskan Mousse.
I thought it was priceless. A coworker, daughter of a doctor had another opinion.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Alaskan Mousse
September 5, 2008 - 15:49 ET by saw the lightGreat comment!
My wife (a doctor) and I nearly hurt ourselves laughing when we saw that. It was priceless and very touching.
The late Erma Bombeck used
September 5, 2008 - 15:59 ET by motherbeltThe late Erma Bombeck used to say that God gave mothers an endless supply of spit, for just such occasions as this, and spots on chins, etc. I guess it kicks in early! LOL
Spit
September 5, 2008 - 16:00 ET by saw the lightSome comedian (maybe Jeff Foxworthy) called Mom Spit the world's best solvent. I teased my wife mercilessly the first time she did it to our daughter!
"Have mom spit on a
September 5, 2008 - 16:59 ET by JasonC"Have mom spit on a kleenex, hell, you can get rust off a trailer hitch with that."
Or something like that. I loved Foxworthy's old stand-up but haven't heard it in years.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Hey same here..we thought
September 5, 2008 - 15:59 ET by bigtimerHey same here..we thought it priceless too...
As the oldest of five brothers I have done the same to my brothers...I was just waiting for the msm trying to make a huge deal out of this all...in the derogatory.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
HuffPost is smearing 6 yr old Piper
September 5, 2008 - 23:41 ET by pearlHuffPost has a page for each child so they can slime each one. See FightThePalinSmears
That's just sick
September 5, 2008 - 23:45 ET by BlondeTwisted and filthy.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Remember that the people
September 6, 2008 - 11:05 ET by ReaganRuledRemember that the people that post on the Leftie blogs have the mental capacity of an 8 year-old. They tend to use intellectual terms such as "eeewwww." These are the same idiots that smash windows in towns where the "adults" show up to run the Country and the World (like the Republican Convention and the G8) while the adolescents' act like .. well .. adolescents. They get Press credentials from the Leftie Press (the same Leftie Press that was observed cheering and clapping during Obam-uh-uh-uh's Greek-god speech) and disrupt a speech by OUR candidate. They embrace "free speech," but ONLY if you speak what they approve of. Otherwise, they shout you down.
So .. while the ADULTS held a civil, meaningful, productive Convention that was viewed by more Americans than the coronation ceremony at Acropolis (Denver), most Americans, fortunately, are becoming aware of the smell of rotten fish -- Obam-uh-uh-uh is last week's catch!!!
Comment from Olberman
September 5, 2008 - 15:47 ET by saw the light(or Williams, or Mitchell, or Matthews, or Chetry, or.....)
Here Trig, let me act as a stand-in for our mother as she goes off and neglects her duties as a woman to take care of the children she so callously brought into this world.
<sarc off>
I almost feel dirty for typing that.
and you should!! To the
September 5, 2008 - 15:56 ET by motherbeltand you should!! To the showers with you!! ;-)
STL
September 5, 2008 - 16:12 ET by I.am.DILLIGAFyou should be ashamed of your self. What would your mother say if she saw that. Now go stand in the corner till you can say your sorry for that. Be lucky youngster that you dont get a woopin when your father gets home
Guns and Violence are not the answer but they are one solution to the problem== SARG
Yep, I recommend a
September 5, 2008 - 16:46 ET by bradbenj5952Yep, I recommend a wire-brush and some old fashioned lye soap. That's the only thing that can remove dirt like that! ;-)
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Love
September 5, 2008 - 15:48 ET by Cool ArrowLove is never tired of waiting; love is kind; love has no envy; love has no high
opinion of itself, love has no pride;
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
My husband and I
September 5, 2008 - 16:24 ET by Cape Conservativefell in love with the Palins when we saw these shots! Piper is adorable!!! The unconditional love of the entire family and their respect for one another comes across loud and clear! My hope is that it will strengthen their resilience as the future brings forth all the msm venom. And then "they" wonder why "good, ordinary" people don't want to run for office! May more and more of the msm issue more and more pink slips in the days ahead!!!
Hopefully the respect, admiration, love and prayers from all of us will help the Palin family realize they are not alone!
OK, I'm sorry
September 5, 2008 - 19:15 ET by JasonCOK, I'm sorry but...really?
This picture encapsulates not only some sort of perfect family values platform but also has somehow convinced you that Palin is prepared for the perfectly legitimate possibility of being the POTUS?
Really?!
Yes, it's very cute and all. But it is also no different from what big sisters do with their little brothers all the time. Politically, morally, ideologically, it represents nothing! I can't believe all the people on this board being taken in by this.
Is Obama's family somehow less adorable and precocious? Do they project less, somehow, in the way of family values?
If you believe Palin will be a good leader, great. I think she's wrong on everything except drilling. We can argue about those issues. But being swayed by sentimental nonsense like this is tremendously sad.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
The above translation from
September 5, 2008 - 19:21 ET by BlazerThe above translation from Jasonliberal:
WAAAAAAHHHHHH, give me a bottle and a woobie, Republicons are once again stealing the Whitehouse.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Interesting translation.
September 5, 2008 - 19:26 ET by JasonCInteresting translation. Actually, I offered to debate the issues with you. What does election-stealing have to do with anything. What I will not do is sit by uncritically while people act like Palin's children's cuteness is demonstrative of a single thing. Grow up. The POTUS election is not an Anne Geddes photo op.
And again, a serious question: is Obama's family somehow deficient in the family values/photogenic departments? That appears to be the implication.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
"Actually, I offered to
September 5, 2008 - 19:31 ET by Blazer"Actually, I offered to debate the issues with you."
So many liberal troll trophies on my wall, and you are again ?
"is Obama's family somehow deficient in the family values/photogenic departments?"
Yea, Americans like apple pie and Cool-Whip by the boatload, not Arugula.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Hmm, preferring pastry and
September 5, 2008 - 21:31 ET by JasonCHmm, preferring pastry and whipped lard to a leafy green (grown by American farmers, I might add). That might explain a few things.
Liberal trophies on your wall? You must be kidding. As far as I can tell, all you can do is imitate petulant children. What is a 'woobie', anyway?
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
I may add that the cold,
September 5, 2008 - 21:38 ET by BlazerI may add that the cold, milky white substance known as Cool-Whip, not Kool-Aid is made by Americas finest dairy farmers. What? Let me guess they're not really farmers because they grow something from a cow.
I didnt' know what a woobie was when I was a child either Jason, but now I do. If you dont', no doubt your still a child, grow up !
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Wow, well done! Cool Whip
September 5, 2008 - 21:57 ET by JasonCWow, well done! Cool Whip is non-dairy and synthetic, containing no cream or milk. Hence: Whipped Lard. Oops!
Though frankly it wouldn't surprise me that a lot of Americans prefer it to a vegetable.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
non-dairy and synthetic,
September 5, 2008 - 21:58 ET by Blazernon-dairy and synthetic, the same substance as your liberal arguments,.......plus they're way past they're expiration dates. Liberals have'nt had a good idea in over forty years and you cant' vaccuum seal that..
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Hot damn, great comeback!
September 5, 2008 - 22:03 ET by JasonCHot damn, great comeback! If you torture that metaphor any more, I'll have to call Amnesty International.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Get a life.....
September 5, 2008 - 19:45 ET by ScrapironJasonC, get a life. If one of Hussein O kids had done that out of the blue everyone would have thought it cute except the elitest Michelle, she would say it's not good for her children. Did anyone have a ball at the DNCC show like Rudy and Sarah did at the RNCC? Even the terrorists wing of the democrat party failed and only got shouted down, made fun of, and thrown out.
There is no joy or smiles in democrat lefty world, everything is a disaster.
I had a little curl as a child that fell on my forehead, it was spit shined many times. Didn't help, it's still there 67 years later. I don't care what my hair does as long as it doesn't fall out. Come to think of it falling out would save money on haircuts.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
same old, same old
September 5, 2008 - 20:11 ET by abeautifulpersoni step away from NB for a spell and nothing changes. i catch one person not goose stepping and what do they get?
- accusations of being a whining liberal baby
- being called a troll, troll TROLL!
- "get a life" ?!
>sigh<
if she wants lick her brother or nephew or whoever that little kid is, who cares? what's really the joke here is that people are having a debate about it.
what does a little kid licking another little kid has to do with exposing liberal bias?
nuff said.
i step away from NB for a
September 5, 2008 - 20:16 ET by Blazeri step away from NB for a spell and nothing changes. i catch one person not goose stepping and what do they get?
- accusations of being a whining liberal baby
- being called a troll, troll TROLL!
- "get a life" ?!
>sigh<
So sorry troll. Know that a living special needs child that is breathing fresh air and is loved and cherished, instead of lying in a dumpster, wrapped in plastic behind a Planned Parenthood Office truly offends you.
if she wants lick her brother or nephew or whoever that little kid
is, who cares? what's really the joke here is that people are having a
debate about it.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
What nonsense. If you all
September 5, 2008 - 21:37 ET by JasonCWhat nonsense. If you all want to believe that a picture of a little girl doing what any average little girl would do while holding her baby brother is somehow indicative of Palin's worldview and abilities, be my guest; but that is just sad.
Someone actually wrote: "I sense some good parenting." Yeah, I'm sure the Palin's are fine parents. But ascertaining that from a picture like this...am I supposed to take that seriously?
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason, if little Piper
September 5, 2008 - 21:41 ET by BlazerJason, if little Piper would have been holding a lifeless Trig up on a pike, during the RNC, I'll bet you would have creamed your pants.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
That's disgusting and
September 5, 2008 - 21:43 ET by balboaThat's disgusting and ridiculous.
It's a useful metaphor.
September 5, 2008 - 21:53 ET by PeskyDaneIt's a useful metaphor. Let's not get all squeamish now. That would be disingenuous given the Left's frantic efforts to destroy this family. Now that's disgusting.
if little Piper would have
September 5, 2008 - 21:56 ET by balboaif little Piper would have been holding a lifeless Trig up on a pike, during the RNC, I'll bet you would have creamed your pants.
That's a "useful metaphor"? Sounded like he meant it pretty literally. And I don't think anyone's trying to destroy this family.
Hey bal, useless but true.
September 5, 2008 - 22:03 ET by BlazerHey bal, useless but true. At any rate Keith Olbermann just said it's ok because Trig is the son of a conservative. You know, we should all be aborted, even after nine months.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
You've got issues. Lots, and
September 5, 2008 - 22:04 ET by balboaYou've got issues. Lots, and lots, of issues.
Not as many issues, as you
September 5, 2008 - 22:10 ET by BlazerNot as many issues, as you need tissues, bal.
It's ok bal, when the messiah goes on hiatus, we'll still love ya', and maybe you can polish the rust off his halo if he decides to run in 2012.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Sounded like he meant it
September 5, 2008 - 22:20 ET by PeskyDaneSounded like he meant it pretty literally.
You just need to get out more, or at least go back and re-read what your fellow travelers at KOS, DU, and HP are spewing.
And I don't think anyone's trying to destroy this family.
I can only gather that you have had the televsion, radio, and your computer off for the last week. Seriously, Bal - no one is trying to destroy this family? Are you so anxious to to surrender your credibility?
I have nothing to do with
September 5, 2008 - 22:27 ET by balboaI have nothing to do with Kos et al, so that means nothing to me. As if their comments would make the Trig comment OK somehow.
I think the press has gone overboard in their coverage of Palin. But trying to destroy? Nope.
You are in serious denial
September 5, 2008 - 22:35 ET by PeskyDaneYou are in serious denial over this (in my never to be humble opinion, of course). Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I do respect your efforts to distance yourself from the Left-wing Blogosphere.
Sorry. "Destroy her family"
September 5, 2008 - 22:35 ET by balboaSorry. "Destroy her family" is just outside my ability to suspend disbelief, just like that bus in "Speed" jumping over the unfinished part of the highway. :-)
Unfair? Over the top? Sure.
"think the press has gone
September 5, 2008 - 22:33 ET by Blazer"think the press has gone overboard in their coverage of Palin. But trying to destroy? Nope."
HaHaHaHaHaHa ! Trying to destroy ? They have been circling her like vultures.
Unfortunateley you cant destroy Superwoman unless you have Kryptonite. Do you have some Kryptonite, well do ya' bal ?
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
There is no convincing Bal
September 5, 2008 - 22:44 ET by PeskyDaneThere is no convincing Bal on this one, regardless of the reams of data which have accumulated in the past week. No matter how many times you hose him down, he'll deny that water is wet. They didn't go after Quayle this fast. Goodness, after typing that last sentence, I took a few moments to really wrap my brain around that. They did go after Quayle like this fast. Just when you thought...
Don't project your
September 5, 2008 - 21:53 ET by JasonCDon't project your fantasies onto me, weirdo. I'm perfectly happy to admit it's a cute picture - I can even laugh at the captions offered here, like "you've got some liberal on you." Where I draw the line is falling into the belief that this sort of picture speaks volumes about Palin's experience or competency. That's all. Take your necrophilia elsewhere.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Projecting? Dude, do you
September 5, 2008 - 22:29 ET by PeskyDaneProjecting? Dude, do you even have the least bit of gleaning of what your fellow KOSBOTs gleefully write? You can't seriously sit there and tell me that this sort of vitriol hasn't been standard fare for the last 8 years from the Left. I'll be generous and allow that perhaps this is not your personal feeling, but if you claim to march in the ranks of the Left, then you're going to have a difficult time avoiding guilt by association.
I don't "march" with any
September 6, 2008 - 07:20 ET by JasonCI don't "march" with any "ranks." And if you want to assume that anyone left of you is a drooling, unintelligent, crass "Kosbots," then frankly you are clueless about the reality of ideological division in this country. You think the average left-leaning citizen hangs out on sites like that, or talks shit about the Palins just for sport? Your generosity notwithstanding, if these are the black-and-white terms in which many conservatives view the US populace, it will continue to be easy to out-argue them on the issues.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Coward
September 6, 2008 - 07:40 ET by Sergeant ROCKThere are some closet liberals that say such things to hide their true identity. Where you fail in your trickery is the simple fact that you expend most of your efforts criticizing the right and people of that ilk while you only feign criticism of the left, only in the posts where you're attacking the right. So, you're only fooling yourself if you think you're coming across as non-partisan without a dog in the fight.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Sarge, I am admittedly and
September 6, 2008 - 07:48 ET by JasonCSarge, I am admittedly and openly left-leaning. That does not put me in league with the doofuses at DK. That is all I'm saying. I'm more critical of conservative's values because I belive they are largely wrong. But I will argue points, not say outlandish things.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Spinning in circles
September 6, 2008 - 07:58 ET by Sergeant ROCKWell, make up your mind then! So, you do have your 'rank' and file that you march with afterall. Imagine that? Just because a majority of those that share your beliefs are cause for embarrassment doesn't invalidate this fact.
Frankly, I think that you'll find a more receptive audience at the Daily Koz that you'll find here. Because, as a whole, I think that the audience here is already familiar with socialism, liberalism, Marxism, etc.
You will find no converts here. Hence, you are merely trolling.
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I'm interested in spirited
September 6, 2008 - 09:34 ET by JasonCI'm interested in spirited conversation, not conversion. You are obviously unclear on the definition of 'trolling'. I have gone out of my way to answer every response, no matter how histrionically my comments are misinterpreted. And my original post was a perfectly reasonable critique. I was more than willing to just jokingly add to one of the submitted captions above (quoting Jeff Foxworthy). When one poster abandoned the captionfest theme to make a comment about how this picture validates Palin as a sound VP pick, I felt that I was justified in responding critically.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Oh, it's very clear
September 6, 2008 - 09:46 ET by Sergeant ROCKAnd I again submit that your sanctimonious blather would be better received at the Daily Koz.
And it was only after some prodding that you admitted the fact that you're a liberal, not the individualist that you originally asserted.
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You continue to think in
September 6, 2008 - 09:54 ET by JasonCYou continue to think in black and white terms. I've never denied holding liberal ideologies. I've been posting here for 2.5 years and have repeatedly referred to myself as liberal. But that does not mean that I engage in the same uninformed, inarticulate, mean-spirited blather as some people who hold the same positions as I do. I hate Code Pink and DK. Just as many conservatives probably resent Michael Savage and Ann Coulter for making their side look so bombastic and cruel. Get it? I may have overlapping beliefs, but I do not affiliate with the Democratic Party, MoveOn, DailyKos, or any other conformity-driven organ of boutique liberalism.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Avoidance
September 6, 2008 - 10:02 ET by Sergeant ROCKMost of the time it is black and white. Just like there's good and evil.
Then why were you dancing around being labeled a liberal in several recent posts?
Overlapping beliefs? lol Yeah, 'liberalism' and 'socialism'. And I have yet to see a convincing post by you showing the merits of anything liberal.
You simply avoid the confrontation. The Obama gun-control thread is an example.
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And I have yet to see a
September 6, 2008 - 10:12 ET by JasonCAnd I have yet to see a convincing post by you showing the merits of anything liberal.
Quit changing the goalposts. This thread hasn't been about the merits of liberal positions. It WAS about Palin, now for some reason it's about me overexplaining the obvious fact that not all liberals go about things the way that people on DK and CodePink do.
I don't even know what the Obama gun control thread is, much less how it pertains to me.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Palin?
September 6, 2008 - 10:29 ET by Sergeant ROCKI never said anything about Palin. Just pointing out the fraud of your assertion that you're an 'individualist' free of being in lock-step with anyone all the while that you only coincidently agree almost 100% with those that you do not 'march' with. Nothing about Palin. Nice diversion there, liberal.
Oh really? Gun-control has always been a hot topic. Your absence in either the defense or support of Obama is quite telling. Again, this demonstrates the fact that you are more comfortable critiqing others opinions on the issues than receiving criticism of your own. Quite the slippery fellow, aren't you?
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OK, you just don't get
September 6, 2008 - 10:39 ET by JasonCOK, you just don't get it. Fine. I'm not explaining it again. I think I've ruined the captionfest board enough. This sub-thread was about my critique of people thinking Palin is a conservative messiah and their dubious use of things like this picture as "evidence". If you want to think that having liberal ideologies puts me in league with bomb-throwing, troglodytic leftist websites, fine. I'll just assume that you think Michael Savage is a reasonable guy and that you attend Aryan Nation meetings. No cognitive dissonance there, right?
I still don't know what thread you're referring to. But to give my position, I'm in favor of people being allowed to purchase guns with background checks and other safeguards in place, similar to the rigamarole people have to go through to drive or fly. I despise the NRA, and I wish that 2nd Amendment absolutists would acknowledge the crucial dependent clause that precedes "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is also part of the amendment and that, therefore, perhaps the founding fathers did not mean for private citizens to stockpile assault rifles for personal use. There's my position. Black and white. No slipperiness.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Moving the goalposts
September 6, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Sergeant ROCKlol... again, the Palin reference? Can't you keep your long-winded, sanctimonious replies straight?? Evidently not, since you can't even navigate a website worth a damn. Nor see a thread that's right in front of your face, the third or fourth one down. Try clicking on 'HOME'.
So, you don't throw bombs? Well, that's about the only difference you've demonstrated so far between you and the usual collection of foaming at the mouth liberals. Your ignorance of the Second Amendment is testament to that.
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Trace this thread back.
September 6, 2008 - 11:00 ET by JasonCTrace this thread back. You jumped in after I defended myself against Blazer's obscene remarks about Palin's youngest son. This thread is very much about Palin.
Since I'm sooo ignorant about the 2nd amendment, please explain to me why the dependent clause about a well-regulated militia is so easily discarded.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Dodge...Parry..Divert..
September 6, 2008 - 11:07 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou implied that I made a comment about Palin, idiot. I did not. I didn't say it wasn't a thread about Palin either. Can't you keep your bloviating crap straight???
The Second Amendment is about defending liberty from threats both foreign and domestic, ignoramus. Read what the Founding Fathers said about the issue, not what some liberal Supreme Court judge opined. It is an individual right.
GEEZ!
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Read what the Founding
September 6, 2008 - 11:12 ET by JasonCRead what the Founding Fathers said about the issue, not what some liberal Supreme Court judge opined.
Way to pass the buck. Now I have to do your work for you? I'm going by the actual, semantic words in the 2nd Amendment. You, for some reason, requested my position on gun laws. I have given it. If you have something to say about it, say it.
I'll also refrain from calling you childish names since, when you do it, it only highlights the emptiness of your posts. You jumped on a thread and accused me of certain rhetorical tactics vis-a-vis my remarks (and other liberals' remarks) on Palin, who is the topic of this board/thread. I regret being responsible for so significantly derailing the captionfest, but it's there in black and white.
We're done. Good day.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
You're an idiot!
September 6, 2008 - 11:23 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou're the one that needs an education on the Second Amendment, not me. So, it's not about 'passing the buck', but educating your ignorant ass. The fact remains, the Second Amendment is an individual right. Not an entitlement like you declared on another thread. Call it childish if you want, but on this issue you are an ignoramus.
More sanctimonious blather? What a surprise! I did not make any remark Palin like you alledged and now you're looking like an idiot refusing to admit it. Go ahead and attack and divert from that simple FACT!
P.S. Feel free to come and relieve me of my right to keep and bear firearms.
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Guess we're not
September 6, 2008 - 12:13 ET by JasonCGuess we're not done.
You're the one that needs an education on the Second Amendment, not me.
I'm going by the exact words in the constitution. You're the one telling me I have to look at other things that the founding fathers said or did. A constitutional absolutist, who dislikes SCOTUS interpretations and the whole "living, breathing document" argument would, I'd think, be able to go on the words in the 2nd amendment in and of themselves. The dependent clause concerning militia is obviously there for a reason. If you want me to think differently you could at least direct me toward whatever writings you're going on.
The fact remains, the Second Amendment is an individual right.
How do you know? In the Bill of Rights, it is explicitly linked to a well-regulated militia. You can certainly argue that it should be an individual right, but that's not what the 2nd Amendment actually says.
Not an entitlement like you declared on another thread. Call it childish if you want, but on this issue you are an ignoramus.
OK I remember that thread now. But I did not use entitlement to refer solely to gun rights. Reread carefully. My reference to gun rights was a reductio ad absurdum argument to make a point about abortion.
I did not make any remark Palin like you alledged and now you're
looking like an idiot refusing to admit it. Go ahead and attack and
divert from that simple FACT!
Your reading comp skills are lacking. I didn't say you made a remark about Palin directly. I said that you attacked me and my rhetorical style and lumped me in with DK regarding comments I made about Palin. I therefore consider Palin to be integral to this thread. Disagree if you want, but please stop calling me an idiot.
P.S. Feel free to come and relieve me of my right to keep and bear firearms.
Did I stutter before? I said I'm in favor of the right to personal gun ownership. I merely disagree that it's literally enshrined in the BoR. Way to resort to tough-guy threats, though. We're all very impressed that you talk such a manly game on an anonymous forum.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Go
September 6, 2008 - 18:50 ET by NorthCoasterread the Federalist Papers to see what the intent of the 2nd amandment was. Also the SCOTUS just ruled that the 2nd amendment referred to an individual right to bear arms.
On second look, I'll admit
September 6, 2008 - 15:12 ET by BlazerOn second look, I'll admit my analogy was over the top JC and apologise to you and anyone else that was offended. However you chose to jump in here and crap up the thread.
I'm sure Obama spending more time campaigning through his carreer than actual legislating sits fine with you because as you stated above your a liberal and so you share his ideaology and can overlook experience.
Palin has a great deal of legislative and executive experience, but even if she didn't, wouldn't we vote for her anyway because we share her beliefs?
There lies the callousness and hypocrisy of your statement
You admit you come here to a conservative oriented site for intelligent conversation and debate and mostly forego the leftist ones. Trust me they desperately need you over there, they are in dire need of intelligence.
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Sobered up, did we? "They
September 7, 2008 - 20:41 ET by JasonCSobered up, did we?
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason, if you assert your
September 6, 2008 - 07:57 ET by PeskyDaneJason, if you assert your individualism, I'll take it on face value.
And if you want to assume that anyone left of you is a drooling, unintelligent, crass "Kosbots,"...
Assumptions are based on the facts at hand, and we go with them until additional facts reveal otherwise. I'll even buy into that you were genuinely offended by certain hateful thoughts being attributed to you. That being said, such thoughts are expressed by the left on the nutroots sites as a matter of course, and therefore reasonable conclusions are going to be made about the libs who post here. To be fair, you know what side of "aisle" your are on when you post here, so differentiating yourself in a positive light is something you are going to have to do from time to time.
BTW, good morning. :-)
Morning. I don't know
September 6, 2008 - 09:37 ET by JasonCMorning. I don't know about your neck of the woods, but in mine it's hot and humid as a sauna. That may have gotten me in a fighting mood. I'd prefer that my posts be taken on their own, if possible. I don't lump all conservatives together and assume that they're all as nasty as Michael Savage, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy. That being said, though I rarely take offense at things, I think Blazer was ridiculously out of line with his disgusting comment about how I regard Palin's children. If there are posters out there who have said that her 6-month-old child SHOULD have been aborted (and I have not seen any such thing myself), then I thoroughly and enthusiastically secede from that strain of modern liberalism.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
On the contrary
September 5, 2008 - 23:12 ET by DamianoI think using this image as a decision of who to elect to the Whitehouse is completely appropriate, perhaps more so than any political speech.
Consider- the MSM has spent the past week trying to convice everyone that Gov. Palin is nothing but and overly ambitious, neglectful mother. Can anyone on earth look at this image and suggest that these children are anything but extraordinarily well cared for? 7 years olds don't put on shows for political points. They are who they are, which is nothing more than a reflection of how well their parents care for them and are raising them.
Further, if you are looking to elect someone who supports positive family values, that picture is worth more than 1,000 speeches and pundit analysis.
This is where you are
September 6, 2008 - 07:42 ET by JasonCThis is where you are wrong. You could take 1,000 pictures of a day in the lives of the most abusive, backwards, Jerry Springeresque, white trash family in the country and you might happen to snap a pic of a 6-year-old spitting on her hand while holding her baby brother.
Now, of course, I have to make the insistent caveat that I am NOT calling the Palins any of those awful adjectives above.
But no, sorry, if you are taken in by this picture to believe a host of things about Palin's competence and values, then you are remarkably susceptible to pathos over realpolitic.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Wrong, Jason. This is a
September 6, 2008 - 09:09 ET by ThisnThatWrong, Jason. This is a totally unscripted picture. Lots of people have tried to use pictures in the past to project their values. Kerry windsuring; the Clintons on the beach; Gore and his sloppy kiss. Those, though, were scripted and didn't work. But this picture, like John saluting his father's coffin, are genuine and do reflect the fundamental values we as a society are trying to instill in our families -- your words and bias not withstanding.
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I do not believe, nor did I
September 6, 2008 - 09:39 ET by JasonCI do not believe, nor did I in any way suggest, that this picture was scripted. My criticism lies not with the Palins or the picture itself; it is 100% with the way that the picture is being received here.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Please Jason - what about the way the Obama Children were
September 6, 2008 - 10:09 ET by Dee Bunkrecieved by THE MEDIA! This is a blog of Palin supporters and of course we will fawn over her cute children. THE MEDIA went on and on about how adorable the Obama girls were and they had speaking roles. It was also obvious that one of Obama's daughters was prompted to give him a chance to correct his error about what city he was in.
Please don't tell us that you aren't voting for Obama. It's not believable so just keep it to yourself if it's true. We won't believe your denials so it's pointless for you to say it. You rarely criticize Obama and when you do it's very general. It only makes all your arguments weaker when you deny that you want him to win. If you start bringing up even 1//2 as many criticisms of Obama as you do about McCain then maybe we will believe you. What's the point anyway? Are your arguments only valid in the context of not liking Obama as you claim?
Dee Bunk
September 6, 2008 - 10:17 ET by Sergeant ROCKHe's a closet Obamabot. No question. He feigns 'individualism' while spending the vast majority of his efforts trashing McCain, the right, Republicans, etc. He's a fraud.
I'm still waiting for a valid argument about anything of substance, as important to our everyday lives a 'captionfest' might be.
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Sergeant Rock - I don't really think Jason is a fraud
September 6, 2008 - 11:03 ET by Dee BunkMany liberals truly convince themselves that they are the only ones who can be objective. When it comes down to it; we are ALL our own people and none of us agree 100% with each other let alone any candidate. In a two party system though, it comes down to who has MORE in common with you.
Jason is not as bad as some of them like Bruzilla, at least he admits he's left leaning. I really find it pointless for anyone to claim "objectivity" to bolster their arguments. It's a red flag that bias is to follow. If you are arguing one side then you are not objective. Period.
I'm more objective than anyone I know but I don't claim that in my arguments (except this one). ; )
Dee Bunk
September 6, 2008 - 11:14 ET by Sergeant ROCKIn other posts he danced around the issue of what he was. Now, he's dancing around his absence of criticism of a guy that he's supposedly not supporting when it would appear that he has MORE in common with Obama than McCain, based on his posts. Hence, fraud. He has of plenty of criticsm for anyone expressing a choice while he hides his. Easy to be a critic in that circumstance.
As far as being a kinder, gentler liberal goes.. when you put lipstick on a pig you still have a pig.
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If you start bringing up
September 6, 2008 - 10:20 ET by JasonCIf you start bringing up even 1//2 as many criticisms of Obama as you do about McCain then maybe we will believe you.
Please show me where I have so ruthlessly criticized McCain. Good luck...
And no, I am not voting for Obama.
And you have thoroughly misunderstood my remarks on this picture. As I've said, my criticism is not about the existence of the picture. I have not referred to it as scripted or as cheap political theater, as many seem to want me to have done. My criticism lies entirely with the way it is being received as anything more than what it is: a cute picture.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason - I know that is what you are doing and I'm countering it
September 6, 2008 - 10:32 ET by Dee Bunkby saying this is a blog filled with a large number of Palin supporters - it's not like it's a supposedly unbiased MEDIA who fawned over Obama's children even though they were used much more as props being given speaking roles at the convention and a lengthy Access Hollywood interview. Give me a break. There is nothing wrong with supporters fawning over their candidates children and using it to enforce what ever else they like about the candidate.
I'll revise my statement to criticisms about McCain to say if you criticized liberal blather and nonsense nearly half as much as you criticize conservatives then maybe we would believe you didn't want Obama to win.
OK Dee. Fair
September 6, 2008 - 10:41 ET by JasonCOK Dee. Fair enough.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
JasonC, It Must Suck to Be You..
September 6, 2008 - 01:43 ET by fed upAnd your comment encapsulates some sort of dysfunctional, twisted logic. Go campaign for Senator Infanticide and leave us alone.
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege"
Twisted logic = Not
September 6, 2008 - 07:33 ET by JasonCTwisted logic = Not deciding about a politician's merit based on a cute picture of her children.
Got it. If that's the criteria, I prefer being "twisted".
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason, you have to admit,
September 6, 2008 - 07:46 ET by PeskyDaneJason, you have to admit, among the thousand words speaking from this picture, we have here two very much loved and cared for children. One would have to be deliberately dense not to glean that. While certain details can not be acertained, this particular concept is pretty obvious.
Am I to believe that
September 6, 2008 - 07:51 ET by JasonCAm I to believe that Obama's daughters are less loved? Even if I submit that this picture is somehow particularly indicative of good parenting, what does it have to do with an election? Does this make up for lack of foreigh policy experience? For the fact that she supported Buchanan in 2000? That I think she's wrong on almost every issue? &c..&c....
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
JasonC
September 6, 2008 - 07:55 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsDoes this make up for lack of foreigh policy experience?
Whoa, negotiating treaties with Russia and Canada is not foreign policy experience in your view? I think not.
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DFTT
September 6, 2008 - 08:08 ET by Cool ArrowPerhaps we should investigate whether Biden has had any experience negotiating with the Indian Nation in Delaware.
No, Joe! We've heard that joke before. I was referring to the American Indian Nation.
Yes, Joe. I know you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Am I to believe that
September 6, 2008 - 08:20 ET by PeskyDaneAm I to believe that Obama's daughters are less loved?
I am certain that the Obamas love their children as much as any set of parents.
...this picture ...what does it have to do with an election?
As far as the range of domestic and foreign policy issues which we care about, not a lot. As far as the character of the family of the person on the bottom of the ticket, it,s an interesting posititve snapshot.
...make up for ...the fact that she supported Buchanan in 2000?
To assume that this is somehow something to be "made up for" is infantile. You were actually making coherent points, albeit points with which I disagree up to then. I'm going to let you go on this one.
...lack of foreigh policy experience?
We've already addressed this one in another part of this thread. Her dealings with provincial officials of Canada and Russia while not on par with living on embassy row in Georgetown, puts her miles ahead of the top of the ticket on the other side of this election.
That I think she's wrong on almost every issue?
Well, that's what this debate forum is all about, isn't it?
To assume that this is
September 6, 2008 - 09:42 ET by JasonCTo assume that this is somehow something to be "made up for"
is infantile. You were actually making coherent points, albeit
points with which I disagree up to then. I'm going to let you go on
this one.
Pesky, I appreciate that you're actually reading and attempting to understand my comments, even if you disagree. Disagreement is fine. I was not suggesting that the picture needs to be made up for; just the opposite, really, that posters on here are treating it as though it not only makes up for, but eradicates glaring deficiencies in Palin's policies, history, and preparedness.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Infantile was too strong a
September 6, 2008 - 12:14 ET by PeskyDaneInfantile was too strong a term. I just think that recieving Buchanan was simply the actions of a small town mayor doing what is done when a dignitary comes to visit. I don't know if she was a member of the "Brigades," or simply "ribbon cutting." In either case, I just don't think supporting someone, like Buchanan is something that rises to the level of a negative for anyone.
From a political perspective, I have given up trying to pin PB down on many issues, given the degree of overlap with his policy positions.
As far the picture, yes there is a lot of extrapolation going on, much of which is subjective. Beyond two children who are obviously loved, there are very few solid take-aways.
Indeed. I realize that I
September 6, 2008 - 12:16 ET by JasonCIndeed. I realize that I overdetermined the Buchanan issue and admitted my wrongness below.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Two Points to be made:
September 6, 2008 - 09:43 ET by Roger the Shrubber1. Somebody needs to get their talking points updated.
2. Liberals need to check themselves when they being flinging the "foreign policy" experience talking point poo around. Palin has as much foreign policy experience running as VP as Obama does running as president. Comparing apples and oranges, and is comical.
So, let's sum this up: Jason needs to refresh his talking points (or get them from a better source), and admonishingyour opponent's #2's "lack of experience" when your own #1 has a woefully-small amount just makes you look, well, rather silly.
I'm not voting for Obama,
September 6, 2008 - 09:45 ET by JasonCI'm not voting for Obama, and this thread is about Palin. So....yeah. Your post is pretty much worthless.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
So, who are you voting for
September 6, 2008 - 09:53 ET by Sergeant ROCKSo, who are you voting for then?
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I live in a solidly blue
September 6, 2008 - 09:58 ET by JasonCI live in a solidly blue state. My vote is meaningless. I'll vote libertarian on principle, Barack will take my state effortlessly, and the electoral system will once again have failed, de facto, to take into account the votes of more than a small fraction of Americans.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason
September 6, 2008 - 13:17 ET by MrShyBetween the two prospects, McCain being president and Obama being president, which one scares you more? Pick one, even if it's a narrow margin, and not "they both do equally" (although, I'm guessing that will be your answer.)
There's always gay lounges and private "parties" you could do.. Stop the videos.. ask your boyfriends for a "reach around"! -- Rog "all class" the Shrub, YouTube :p
Roger called attention to
September 6, 2008 - 10:17 ET by motherbeltRoger called attention to the fact that you incorrectly stated that Palin supported Buchanan in 2000.
Why is that worthless? Wasn't your remark about Palin?
Oops...I lose on the
September 6, 2008 - 10:31 ET by JasonCOops...I lose on the Buchanan point.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason
September 6, 2008 - 10:12 ET by BlondeThe point of the picture?
Many others here have more than adequately explained how this picture (and I agree, it was an unscripted moment) refutes much of the left wing blather and questioning about how on earth Sarah Palin will be able to handle the demands of motherhood AND a big job.
Maybe the picture was put up by the editors as a fun and joyful change of the noxious diet of Obama/Hillary we've had for the last however many months. The last CapFest I thought was on a par with this one was the poor guy in the flood, mowing the grass on his new island home.
That's it Jason...this picture is here for some fun!
Personally, I'd have put up the picture of young Miss Piper Palin on stage w/her family Wednesday night, waving to the crowd, doing her best Queen Elizabeth imitation. The kid is obviously a superstar, even in that crowded family.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
OMG, Blonde, I caught that
September 6, 2008 - 10:22 ET by motherbeltOMG, Blonde, I caught that too, and commented on it another thread. Only I called it her "Miss America" wave.
She is just too cute!
And I agree...the picture was just too precious. Nothing wrong with cooing over an adorable kid.
As Groucho Marx said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
IMO, we all need to lighten up on this and just smile at the pic.
Quite, MB
September 6, 2008 - 10:36 ET by BlondeMy mom and I have taken to calling her Queen Elizabeth every time we see her.
Piper reminds me of my little sister at the same age, whom we used to call "twelve stars" (it was a cheerleading jump). The superstar quality is unmistakable.
And I just have to say it...although I have qualms about commenting on the Palin family (inasmuch as I think families should be accorded the privacy they deserve). The poise and grace of each member of their family (and the soon to be member) is astounding under this insane media spotlight. Kudos.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Yes JasonC you are "sorry"
September 6, 2008 - 17:28 ET by NayAre you trying to say that the posters here were formerly unsure about Palin now suddenly because of this adorable picture have now seen the light and that Palin is miraculously qualified. Because from what I have read, many posters here were already fans, myself included, and were just enjoying the beautiful reflection of family in this captionfest. But in typical liberal fashion, you have taken something sweet and twisted it to your own enjoyment of derailing a thread. Bravo! Be proud! This was your moment.
You know, Mr Liberal,
September 6, 2008 - 16:06 ET by ReaganRuledYou know, Mr Liberal, you're really jumping to a nonsensical conclusion there -- a trademark of Liberals. NO ONE said that images such as the one above imply or state that therefore Sarah "must be a good mother" or "makes her prepared to be a good VP." Sheez! All it shows is that she has a loving family that cares for each other, and she must be doing 'something' right.
Or would you have preferred that she push her little brother down, like a lot of little brothers and sisters do?
Sorry, Jason
September 6, 2008 - 17:02 ET by Indiana JoeThe whole COUNTRY is talking about this video. It was a great touchy-feely spontaneous moment. Ever see the pic of John Jr. playing under the desk in the Oval Office?
I don't recall anyone saying this "sentimental nonsense" is a reason to vote for Palin. It is irrelevant in terms of "the issues." If you want issues, there are plenty of threads out here about "the issues." This is the caption thread. See the relevance in talking about the pic here?
I think it speaks volumes about this family. This is what "walking the walk" of family values is really about. That little girl was exhibiting learned behavior. That's pretty relevant to me and to many. Socially, politically, ideologically, AND morally. It demonstrates more than political lip-service to those issues.
Trying to deconstruct it to belittle it and being cynically immune to this "sentimental nonsense" is what I find "tremendously sad."
You want issues? Does it prove Palin's ready to step up if something happens to McCain? Hell no, that's an obvious straw-man argument.
But... Is OBAMA ready to step up right now? When will the left realize that the "inexperienced" sword cuts both ways?
Rhetorical. I know my answer, and I'm sure I can guess at yours.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Nay and IJ, As I said
September 6, 2008 - 21:14 ET by JasonCNay and IJ,
As I said above, I rather regret so severely derailing the captionfest. I had no idea my original comment would snowball so severely. It's a very cute and endearing picture. And I never suggested that it was scripted. Not once. But the moment it turned from captions and exclamations of "So cute!" to the inevitable raving about how this would help her campaign so much, I felt the need to critique. Simply put, Palin could be mother of the year, it wouldn't make me feel any better about her being leader of the free world. The suggestion that mere 'cuteness' - or that she's a good parent - could sway independent voters is eminently disturbing to me. If that sort of thing is ideologically and morally important to you, fine. I am of the belief that the POTUS need not necessarily be someone who I admire personally or who I would "have a beer with". The fact that she taught her daughter to spit-shine her little brother's hair (learned behavior, right) holds no water for me as far as her political abilities. The thought of swing voters being influenced by it is sickening to me. And again, I am not criticizing the picture itself - not once - only it's apparent power to affect voters.
"They seem to believe that high moral indignation offsets and indeed outweighs all deficiencies of punctuation, grammar, spelling, logic, and style. In support of this notion there's only the entire culture." -R.R.
Jason C
September 7, 2008 - 04:26 ET by well99Actually Jason I agree.The picture is cute.What is going to draw swing voters and independants will be Sarah.For a change there will be a chance to have someone in that isnt part of the beltway crowd.As far as you being a Kos Kid,Huff and Puff or DU poster that is BS.Even though we dont agree on certain things you post in a civil manner.Your wrong of course because I am always right.Ask me.
Just a note:I really hate to see the forum become Daily Kos and such.They dont accept any view but their own.If you dont follow their narrow agenda your dogmeat.
No, JasonC, this is what you said:
September 7, 2008 - 15:21 ET by Nay"This picture encapsulates not only some sort of perfect family values platform but also has somehow convinced you that Palin is prepared for the perfectly legitimate possibility of being the POTUS?"
NO ONE on this thread posted that because of this picture they have somehow become convinced that Palin is prepared to be POTUS. From the posts I read, Palin was defended with facts, and not this picture. And this thread was derailed because your criticisms were being challenged and answered.
"The suggestion that mere 'cuteness' - or that she's a good parent - could sway independent voters is eminently disturbing to me."
Is it "disturbing" to you that Jon Stewart's Daily Show is considered by many to be a legitimate news source?Probably 90% of the people I know do not pay close attention to politics. They are going to decide on the basis of what they hear on the "Today" show or "Oprah" etc. And you are "eminently disturbed" by a picture of a five year old, sweetly holding her brother that might endear Sarah Palin to someone. Does is equally disturb you that an overwhelming majority of African American voters are going to vote for Obama because he was born to an African American father?
You see, the thing is, we have no way of knowing how something is going to "sway" a voter. Should we make sure that pictures which may flatter a candidate in any way not be allowed. Because there a numerous photos and adoring articles about Obama. Would you be eminently disturbed by these?
I never said you were criticizing the picture itself, just that you stated it "has somehow convinced" posters here "that Palin is prepared for the perfectly legitimate possibility of being the POTUS?"
That is the statement I challenged as being ridiculous. And I stand by the fact that it was ridiculous.
The pathetic thing is, the
September 5, 2008 - 19:48 ET by ThisnThatThe pathetic thing is, the AP states that these two children are simply pawns used by the GOP. WTH said "[The AP writer] seems to imagine that, since the GOP objected to the media attempting to use the kids against Governor Palin, that the GOP shouldn't be allowed to have the kids attend the convention to see their Mother accept her nomination".
Does this photo indicate a meaness on the part of Palin, McCain, or the GOP? Only the most vile amongst us can wish that these two had never been invited to see their mother's speech. Pathetic.
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It's worse than you think...
September 5, 2008 - 21:05 ET by Clear thinkerPalin Baby Wars - Liberals on Warpath
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Strange
September 5, 2008 - 23:16 ET by DamianoBut I didn't see any of this sort of criticism from the MSM when the Obama paraded their girls around to every magazine that would take pictures of them and had them participating in a scripted "family moment" at their convention.
So am I to understand that because the MSM film the Palin kids nonstop through the convention (after a week of attacking them) that it is more immoral than a cadidate who purposefully uses his children as props and players in his campaign?
cool -->
September 5, 2008 - 19:55 ET by MrShy"Love is never tired of waiting; love is kind; love has no envy; love has no high opinion of itself, love has no pride;"
Can I use this and send it to all my ex-girlfriends I fell in love with?
(Sad, I know.)
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Shy, I have a better idea.
September 5, 2008 - 20:03 ET by BlazerShy, I have a better idea. Write a song about it. I will definitely purchase it. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Thx Blaze!
September 5, 2008 - 21:28 ET by MrShyI'll get back into the songwriting swing of things... one of these days. :p
I work in waves.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Shy
September 5, 2008 - 22:20 ET by Cool ArrowOf course you can use it. I borrowed it from the Bible.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Piper "one second
September 5, 2008 - 15:48 ET by oldArmyPiper "one second Trig....you got some liberal on ya"..
Ladies
September 5, 2008 - 16:02 ET by iveseenitallThe ladies in my house instantly fell for this kid. "Oh" and "Oooh" and "Ah". The giggles, the pointing at the t.v. Love all around that night.
NEVER, NEVER trust a "liberal"
Old Army
September 5, 2008 - 16:09 ET by I.am.DILLIGAFthat is the best one yet "you got some liberal on ya" ROTHLMAOWTIME and by the way I am old Army too
Guns and Violence are not the answer but they are one solution to the problem== SARG
"got some liberal on ya"
September 5, 2008 - 16:14 ET by Heather RadishThat one's made of win. :)
(as a big sister myself, that footage really resonated. what a great kid.)
"got some liberal on ya"
September 5, 2008 - 16:31 ET by CarlosSLOL
That's the winner! No need for any debate. No need for any voting. We should coronate "got some liberal on ya" as the KING OF THE WORLD!
LMAO ! Good one Army
September 5, 2008 - 19:32 ET by BlazerLMAO ! Good one Army !
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
<yawn> Yeah, I know, Trig,
September 5, 2008 - 15:56 ET by motherbelt<yawn> Yeah, I know, Trig, I'm tired too... but hopefully they'll be done soon and we can go home!
BTW...that was the money shot of the night!
BTW...that was the money shot of the night!
September 5, 2008 - 16:26 ET by Cape ConservativeI agree! Such unabashed LOVE - these people are going to bring such a BLAST of fresh air to Washington!
Brings Back Fond Memories
September 5, 2008 - 16:02 ET by socal4patrickAs a parent of a disabled child I remember fondly when her brother and sister would sit with her and comb her hair and put lipstick on her. She had no idea what was going on but all she knew is that somebody loved her and it made her life happy. It made us very happy as well. She is 21 now and is still with us and now we will have an advocate in the White House.
"If you want to save the world you must be willing to make others sacrifice" ....Dogbert the green consultant
This post broke my heart
September 5, 2008 - 16:45 ET by Ron was RIGHTThis post broke my heart but made me smile. Thank you for sharing your personal life.
"The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Wilson Reagan
Splish Splash...I was
September 5, 2008 - 16:05 ET by bigtimerSplish Splash...I was taking a bath....along about a Wednesday night...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
"Jesus Piper, get a comb!"
September 5, 2008 - 16:07 ET by Hack Cafferty"Jesus Piper, get a comb!"
Piper/Trig
September 5, 2008 - 16:14 ET by Paul GFor the last few days I've wondered why that moment kept popping up in my brain, why did I keep thinking about it. Then this morning Glenn Beck hit it right on the head..My mother used to do the same thing to me and my brother...up until the day she died. (and I was bald) JK. But really, she only did it because she loved my brother and me, And wanted us to be the best, and look our best. And who do you think Piper learned it from?... a mother that loves them too.
And if you recall,
September 5, 2008 - 16:28 ET by Cape Conservativethe "mother spit" was usually applied with the hankie that ALL mothers had in their apron pocket or in their purse!
When I was a kid, my mother
September 5, 2008 - 17:18 ET by Mark FinkelsteinWhen I was a kid, my mother would have me spit into her hankie to groom me! I can still remember the way her hankie smelled of lipstick and perfume.
Awwww
September 5, 2008 - 16:15 ET by 10ksnookerThis is just too heart felt.
"Mommy's little girl taking care of business."
Piper has more expierience
September 5, 2008 - 16:16 ET by hbestPiper has more expierience mothering than Barack does in governing!
Piper mopping Trig's hair as
September 5, 2008 - 16:16 ET by JTPmommy mops up the dimbocwats.
"I need more cowbell!" SNL
Captionfest
September 5, 2008 - 16:23 ET by LionKing<yawn>...Me too, Trig. Those liberal LIES are so predicatable and boring. I am glad mommy loves us. She is SO smart.
Video here
September 5, 2008 - 16:24 ET by Pasco ConservativeI put a music video up on YouTube of Piper's grooming of Trig.
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any
man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
Pasco.... I loved
September 5, 2008 - 16:32 ET by bigtimerPasco....
I loved that!
Thanks...Turn on the Sun indeed.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
God love her!!!!!!!!
September 5, 2008 - 16:25 ET by charlietexasThat was the sweetest thing I've seen in along time. That is also a sign of good parenting, a mothers love reflected in her daughter.
Spit is a good hair gel too.
A mother of 4 and a husband who needs a little spit once in a while.
without question
September 5, 2008 - 16:28 ET by boozyAbsolutley priceless....this may have just won the election...family..and family taking care of family ...that is what this country is all about...or at least should be about...not Homo issues, not black issues, not illegal mexican issues, not whities issues.....but family issues...bottom line...
I agree
September 5, 2008 - 16:35 ET by Cape Conservativeyou could see the love between all the members of the Palin family! We need more exhibitions of unconditional love! God bless this family as they travel the rocky road ahead - I'm sure the msm will have a few more boulders to toss their way!
Adorable shot
September 5, 2008 - 16:30 ET by american-americanI am sorry for invading the captionfest like this, but... my daughter miscarried (she was 20 weeks along, the baby died in the womb) a few months ago. She was diagnosed a "downes" baby. Roxanne and I were still very much in love with the baby regardless of the knowledge that we were facing a challenge with her. My husband, I am sorry to say, thought it was unfair to the child to bring it into the world to face the sorrow it would have felt not being like the "normal" kids. It has come back into our minds alot since Gov. Palin's child has been a topic of discussion. Now I have just told him to stop telling me how he feels, as I know full well his position. I just tell him, "If Elizabeth had survived, you would have taken her into your arms and fell in love with her, just like we did when we found out she was on the way".
God Bless Sarah Palin for giving Trig life, instead of deciding that his life was less then worthy because of downes syndrome. He will be loved well, apparently by most Americans now also. :-)
aa.... Amen to your
September 5, 2008 - 16:35 ET by bigtimeraa....
Amen to your post...so sorry for your sorrow, plus just my two cents, you are right in your summation.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Now this is the best caption fest picture this year!!!
September 5, 2008 - 16:53 ET by upcountrywaterI got some of those from my mom + elbow grease,
mostly for grime removal.
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
Caption Fest
September 5, 2008 - 16:59 ET byBest Caption for Cute Pic:
"Where's Rush Limbaugh or one of those other Republican propogandist pundits carrying those buckets of water when you need 'em?"
Rush Confesses
The Bucket Brigade never really put down their buckets, but for Palin they had to buy more buckets.
"...and then Mommy said,
September 5, 2008 - 16:55 ET by Tyromac"...and then Mommy said, you spit into your hand, clench your fist, and kick the crap out of them."
Listen Trig
September 5, 2008 - 17:04 ET by Cool ArrowWe don't need no stinking village
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Piper styling Trig up with
September 5, 2008 - 17:07 ET by BlazerPiper styling Trig up with some spit mousse is about the cutest thing I've seen in a while.
And her momma aint' bad either.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Fergoshsakes
September 5, 2008 - 17:29 ET by Baltimore_BethThe media just about has an orgasm when Michelle and Obambi fist-bump, why can't they take five seconds and acknowledge this?!
Seen on Al-Jazeera
September 5, 2008 - 17:30 ET by Roger the ShrubberDaughter of eveel American Zionist presidential candidate prepares a blessed child of Islam to have his holy blood drained to make Maztoh.
Or did I see this on MSNBC?
Why the heck is this a
September 5, 2008 - 17:32 ET by Clear thinkerWhy the heck is this a weekend caption???
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I think because it reflects
September 5, 2008 - 17:41 ET by BuffNBoneI think because it reflects the humanness of the Palin family. Which helps us relate to them. Values are caught, not taught. She was doing her part to make her brother look good. Something I think her mother may have done for her a time or two. As I mentioned earlier the daughter of a doctor and other germaphobes may take offense. I'm getting tired of seeing Pelosi and Helen Thomas. This was cute.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Endearing, but sorta enduring message
September 5, 2008 - 19:00 ET by anneftxTough gal that I am, I found this bit endearing. Siblings can be at war with one another or bound in love. I sense some good parenting here. At age 60 I'm more than a few years beyond spit coifs, but I did run my fingers in water this a.m. to smooth down a bit of my guy's "bed head" before he left for the office. Guess the instinct is, well, instinctual.
Don't know if you caught it or not, but I was half-watching news this afternoon and saw Gov. Palin conduct an interview while putting her daughter's hair in a ponytail. I tend to multi-task and juggle many things in me wee brain simultaneously. My husband was strictly at work when at work, and at home when at home. Don't think either of us bested the other. With careful balancing, I could feed a baby and simultaneously dictate a position paper.
Just curious. Am assuming most of you are guys. Do you juggle or have an on/off switch.anneftx
"Trig, I got no
September 5, 2008 - 17:33 ET by Blazer"Trig, I got no spit"
Piper Palin preparing to go down on the convention floor and take care of the liberal MSM circling her mother like sharks.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Here you go, Trig,
September 5, 2008 - 18:12 ET by pbanks7This will help innoculate you against the gobs of spit you can expect if Mommy wins.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother. Weren't a couple of the Osmond Bros. special needs kids? The first of my two Downs cousins (sisters) was going to be institutionalized, and my Aunt said, "The hell she is, that's my baby, and she's going home with me!" She's 85, and still taking care of them.
pb, awesome ! "You
September 5, 2008 - 18:21 ET by Blazerpb, awesome !
For a second there you almost made me forget that the liberals were the all inclusive and tolerant ones, thanks. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Did you do an Odermann in
September 5, 2008 - 18:19 ET by AntiMediaDid you do an Odermann in your diaper?
LOL! That's a stinky he
September 5, 2008 - 19:02 ET by JerryLOL! That's a stinky he won't soon forget.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Kids are like small mirrors
September 5, 2008 - 18:55 ET by timjamzof the parents that raise them. Anyone with children knows this (even if we don't want to admit it when it's embarrassing behavior). This is a great and transparent view into what the Palin's home life is really like.
I don't know about John McCain, but Sarah's got my vote.
OneHigherPower.com
He ain't heavy, he's my
September 5, 2008 - 19:03 ET by JerryHe ain't heavy, he's my brother...
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Jerry...I love
September 5, 2008 - 21:28 ET by bigtimerJerry...I love it!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Piper for President, 2040!
September 5, 2008 - 19:35 ET by FranksamPiper for President, 2040! She's already got the wave to the crowd. I'll bet she gets the rest before too long.
There have been some
September 5, 2008 - 19:52 ET by ThisnThatThere have been some touching photos in our recent history. JFK's son saluting the casket; and now this one, which I think tops the list.
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TnT... Me too. "America
September 5, 2008 - 21:06 ET by bigtimerTnT...
Me too.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
"Triggy,
September 5, 2008 - 20:00 ET by hgabrahamsonif you keep messing your hair up, Daddy's not gonna make you a moose burger"
PS Piper has got to be worth 20,000,000 Daddy votes. Just pulled out the pictures of my little girl from the 70's.
"Difference of Opinion is what makes a Horse Race
The BOYS in my 12th grade
September 5, 2008 - 20:25 ET by nymomx2The BOYS in my 12th grade physics class fell in love with them too--commenting how cute and adorable the little girl was. These particular boys are gonna make great husbands and fathers someday...
Now I am being censored
September 5, 2008 - 21:15 ET by PopularTechEveryone pay close attention to what comments are allowed here, no matter how factually true.
Your lucky your a$$ hasn't been banned, troll.
September 5, 2008 - 21:21 ET by R D HelmWhat you said to misterbill last night was taken very personally be me. Misterbill was one of the main reasons I joined NB to begin with.
How dare you disrespect a military veteran of his character in my presence, as you are not fit to even shine his shoes.
You owe the man an engraved and profuse apology.
I will not let up on you until I see one.
Troll.
-Dave.
Get a life
September 5, 2008 - 21:22 ET by PopularTechI will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country. Stop with the military propaganda as I said nothing about his service and did not even know he served.
Seriously offensive, sexist woman-hating 12yo Troll!
September 5, 2008 - 21:25 ET by R D Helm-Dave.
Mr. Bill= awesome!
September 5, 2008 - 21:45 ET by kathleenirishLord, Help Us!
I don't get to post here very often anymore, and I might be on a tangent but when I saw you mention Mr. Bill, I had to jump in here for a moment.
I'm with you- he's a special guy and you are good for standing up for him and against the rabble that spews here from time to time.
My father was laid to rest today- and I have never been prouder when I received the great honor of having the American flag presented to me by the head of the Air Force color guard at his graveside- my father served during the Korean War in Alaska primarily (he was only 17 when he enlisted). Thank you, Mr. Bill, and all the servicemen and women who read and post here...I wish I could shake your hand or even give you a hug of thanks for the sacrifices you gladly made for all Americans, even the Trolls who have no clue, who are running around like mice after their messiah, the pied piper, Obama.
Hi kathleen. LTNS!
September 5, 2008 - 21:59 ET by R D HelmMy sincerest condolences to you on your loss. I haven't yet lost a parent, but I am not far from it. Knowing you as I do, it is obvious your dad was a pretty stand-up guy. Heck, we all go back a pretty long way here.
Like you, I haven't the time here at NB that I once did, but I will find whatever time I need to torment this idiot troll. LOL.
Glad you had the chance to pop in here, as I have missed having you around.
-Dave.
wow Dave
September 5, 2008 - 22:12 ET byhe's actually dissed Mr Bill?? this pompous ijit who thinks he's some BMONB has dissed our bud?
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
botg, PopTw*t doesn't know what he has stepped in...yet.
September 5, 2008 - 22:30 ET by R D HelmBut he is up to his eyeballs in it. :-)
I guess you missed the chat last night. PT's "contributions" to the discussion were trollish in the extreme.
But what he did to misterbill was unforgivable.
-Dave.
Dave
September 5, 2008 - 22:37 ET byi don't get to chat it freezes me out
i'll take your word for it
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country" poptart
Ok to say I sleep with mom
September 5, 2008 - 23:35 ET by PopularTechYeah but saying I sleep with my mom, is acceptable chat. Hypocrites.
I didn't say that, PopTw*t. Someone else did.
September 5, 2008 - 23:45 ET by R D HelmBut funny it was, just the same. :-)
You're beginning to remind some of us of Norman Bates.
Perhaps you should get out more.
Troll.
-Dave.
R D
September 5, 2008 - 23:47 ET by Conservative VoiceWhat did he say?
Personally, the term troll is over used, its losing its flavor.
CV, PopTurd dissed one of my best friends here at NB.
September 5, 2008 - 23:57 ET by R D HelmYou can read down this thread if you like. Misterbill did nothing to deserve the disrespect he received from the idiot in question.
While this was offensive enough, it pales in comparison to what this jerk had to say about Sarah Palin and her oldest daughter in the chat. Over the Top doesn't even begin to describe it.
BTW-Misterbill is a Korean War vet, as is my dad, who is dying from Alzheimer's.
-Dave.
If you know what it means
September 6, 2008 - 00:05 ET by NL207If you know what it means to truly sacrifice for a cause, as your father did, then drop this non-productive debate. If PT is an ass**le, everyone will see this. Make sure you don't look like the puckered porthole yourself.
Misterbill is big enough to take this himself. I know that for a fact.
NL... Thank you, I wasn't
September 6, 2008 - 00:22 ET by bigtimerNL...
Thank you, I wasn't in the chat, but I did follow the thread the Dave is linking to, he is the first person that brought up misterb's service ect...not PT...all I know is what I saw on the thread...I see it's another reason why I never liked the chats when it came to what was supposedly being said on the television screen and what the subject is about minute by minute...
Personally, I have said what I want to a friend like PT and Dave...just take it to the Woodshed as far as I am concerned...all of it is getting old on who is the toughest...misterb is tougher than all combined....and he can defend himself just fine, as he did last night...
Now let's get back to the captionfest...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I know who mister bill is,
September 6, 2008 - 00:17 ET by Conservative VoiceI know who mister bill is, I like Mr Bill. I know pop tech isn't a Palin cheer leader. But mister bill can handle pop tech on his own, he is a war vet is he not?
Pop tech may have been rude to misterbill, but he wasn't over the top, I have seen and dealt with far worse. Like I said in that thread
http://newsbusters.o...
threatening to leave because someone challenged mister bill's intelligence and saying his posts were "gay", even though that was rude if said to any poster, is a bit much. Calling him a troll because he disagrees with you and tends to post a lot is also a bit much. People have jumped to the wrong conclusion that pop tech is a liberal obama supporter because he doesn't like Palin. He is absolutely wrong about underestimating Palin, so challenge him on how he is wrong.
He is wrong about Palin, but as far as his conversation with Mister Bill is concern, he doesn't owes him anything. Your posts are more over the top and obnoxious then his were with Mister Bill in that thread. Maybe in the chat room he was more over the top, which is why I asked what he said...
btw, sorry about your dad, and I salute his service. Take a breath R D, he wasn't attacking your dad.
CV, did you read the chat last night?
September 6, 2008 - 00:21 ET by R D HelmIf me, or anyone else here had said the things PopTech did on a regular thread that was accessible to non-members, we would have been banned immediately.
-Dave.
I did read his posts, I
September 6, 2008 - 00:24 ET by Conservative VoiceI did read his posts, I stand by my post. He was rude. Don't fight rude with rude, it isn't the Palin way :)
CV, misterbill is my last coherent connection to that era.
September 6, 2008 - 00:31 ET by R D HelmAs my father has now pretty much lost his ability to communicate, not to mention his memory, and most of his fellow Marines who shared his experiences in that war are gone now.
I have an uncle who was a Naval aviator in that war, but he is dying of cancer.
Sorry, but this is kind of personal to me.
-Dave.
I take it, you know him
September 6, 2008 - 00:44 ET by Conservative VoiceI take it, you know him personally? In any case, Mister Bill is a great man, no doubt about it. But Pop wasn't attacking him personally, he was responding to being called a liberal.
And the Mister Bill I know, loves a good fight...let him brawl :) You don't need to shadow Pop Tech, people can come to their own conclusions easily enough.
CV, some of PopT's more offensive comments were removed.
September 6, 2008 - 00:47 ET by R D Helm-Dave.
A lot of us have the same
September 6, 2008 - 00:49 ET by bigtimerA lot of us have the same family situations Dave regarding service members ect...you aren't the only one...
You started the argument with PT about this, he never disrespected mister b's service...you just jumped in and stated as such...
Granted, I don't know what happened in the chat...but you are the one who started this.
I don't know if you have followed everything between PT and me today, I have kept silent about all of this hoping steam would finally be blown off from PT about the Palin pick, but nevertheless, he didn't pick the fight on what we all that weren't in the chat couldn't see, or could care less about actually, you did.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Get over it. Maybe you
September 6, 2008 - 01:14 ET by NL207Get over it.
Maybe you need a tune up. You aren't the only one with experiences of this sort. When my father was buried, he had a honor guard. I counted 26 Marines in dress blues. Some people call this a "Corps Burial". The reason was a name, "Iwo Jima".
All men die. But not all men made a difference. Be thankful your father was one of those who did the latter as he will the former.
It's OK I guess
September 5, 2008 - 23:48 ET by Cool ArrowBut would she want you to admit that?
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
for pete's sake
September 5, 2008 - 23:50 ET by candanceYou came busting in being obnoxious and picking a fight with Blonde. Everyone in the room repeatedly asked you to leave. You refused. Naturally the conversation turned to you being a troll typing away in your mother's basement, and when you kept antagonizing people, it turned ugly,
Your whole plan was to throw the chat room out of control.
he was fighting Blonde
September 5, 2008 - 23:57 ET byand dissin Mr Bill?
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country" poptart
yes bot
September 6, 2008 - 00:06 ET by candancePop's behavior the past week has truly been sad. He's making Leon look like a nice guy. Epecially in chat when he thinks the admins won't catch him.
Made me so furious I left the chat twice because of his attitude.
but poop deck
September 6, 2008 - 00:18 ET byhasn't been around long enough to know who is who!! he was all high and mighty to a 2yr 45 week poster (rdw i think) last week with a "don't you know who i am" attitude.
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country" poptart
Excuse me while I LMAO
September 6, 2008 - 19:13 ET by PopularTechThat clown wanted me to prove that AGW was not science and for me to defend my liberal positions. Sorry for invoking my "high and mightyness".
kath
September 5, 2008 - 22:14 ET bymy prayers are with you and yours
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
"I will disrespect who ever
September 5, 2008 - 21:46 ET by Blazer"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country.
Stop with the military propaganda as I said nothing about his service
and did not even know he served."
....and I'll knock whoevers teeth out that I please, because I'm sure they have great dental insurance. Your not only a tool PT, your the whole toolshed.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Respect
September 5, 2008 - 23:25 ET by PopularTechIs not a right and I don't bow down to anyone, so get over yourself. Guess what there is nothing you can do about it.
Your righ PT, theres
September 5, 2008 - 23:38 ET by BlazerYour righ PT, theres nothing I can do about it. Still, I think you would make a hell of rick-shaw boy.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Your righ PT, theres
September 5, 2008 - 23:38 ET by BlazerYour righ PT, theres nothing I can do about it. Still, I think you would make a hell of rick-shaw boy.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
In real life
September 5, 2008 - 21:24 ET by PopularTechIf you came up to me demanding your respect, I would laugh in your face so get over it. I am surely not going to apologize to someone who mocked me intentionally and lied calling me a liberal.
I didn't call you a liberal, troll.
September 5, 2008 - 21:35 ET by R D HelmBut I am accusing you of being a sexist, immature brat, and your highly offensive posts here over the last week have demonstrated this beyond all doubt, particularly the ones you placed in last night's chat.
Apologize to misterbill, or I will make your continued existence here a living hell.
-Dave.
Lord, Help Us!
September 5, 2008 - 21:53 ET by kathleenirishLord, Help Us!
PS-
Isn't funny what a troll's definition of 'free country' is???
Gosh kath...good to see you
September 5, 2008 - 22:05 ET by bigtimerGosh kath...good to see you here gal...I mentioned you somewhere about a month or so ago..I have sincerely missed you and your blunt wit like only you can do.
Very sorry about your loss... I know how it goes.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
No Mister Bill called me a liberal
September 5, 2008 - 23:21 ET by PopularTechEven after I stated I was not.
I am not sexist (or anything else you said), no matter how many times you repeat it.
Get over the apology already, it is not coming. If he cannot handle it, maybe he should not dish it out. I didn't just blindly insult the guy so get over it - least of all what you are lying about.
Your "threats" make me laugh.
PopTw*t, I haven't even gotten warmed up yet.
September 5, 2008 - 23:31 ET by R D HelmDeny it all you like, but you dissed misterbill last night in a hideous fashion, and everybody here knows it.
On a scale of 1-10, your credibility here at NB is now about a -3.
You will apologize to misterbill most sincerely, or I will shadow you here at NB from now until Hell itself has thawed out from the big freeze.
Count on it, you putrid little insignificant ingrate.
-Dave.
Have fun with your new job
September 5, 2008 - 23:31 ET by PopularTechI just keep laughing.
Your disrespecting misterbill has made this personal, PopTw*t...
September 5, 2008 - 23:48 ET by R D Helm...in ways that your little warped mind cannot even begin to fathom.
BTW, did you have fun trying in vain to get back in the chat last night? LOL.
Troll.
-Dave.
PT, take a deep breath.
September 5, 2008 - 23:48 ET by KarmaPlease use the inteligence we all know you have and ask a friend, family member or anyone detached from your posts of recent to read them and give you an honest critique of what you have posted. Please.
And you aren't big enough to
September 6, 2008 - 00:14 ET by NL207And you aren't big enough to handle this without acting like an assh**e?
existential question
September 6, 2008 - 00:26 ET by Cool ArrowDo A$$holes really exist? Aren't they nothing more than an expression of a sphincter?
My lap disappears when I stand up. Was it really there?
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Do you seriuosly want me to
September 6, 2008 - 01:06 ET by NL207Do you seriuosly want me to help you explore this weighty philosophical question?
Sure Dr. Freud
September 6, 2008 - 01:13 ET by Cool ArrowPull up a stool.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
This could be
September 6, 2008 - 01:17 ET by NL207This could be interesting!
So why do you suppose your lap dissappears when you stand up? And why does this trouble you?
Don't know doctor
September 6, 2008 - 01:22 ET by Cool ArrowAnd my stomach has gotten so big I don't even get to watch it happen anymore.
Is this a coping mechanism?
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
It cannot be a coping
September 6, 2008 - 01:28 ET by NL207It cannot be a coping mechanism unless beer or food are the cause of the stomach enlargement.
You were saying
September 6, 2008 - 01:33 ET by Cool ArrowSorry, I dropped my donut on the keyboard.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Have you ever considered
September 6, 2008 - 01:36 ET by NL207Have you ever considered eating just the holes?
OMG...I'm dying laughing
September 6, 2008 - 01:43 ET by bigtimerOMG...I'm dying laughing here...I have tried to not say anything, but this is too much fun...NL you are on a good one tonight...
Okay...I'm outta' here...just wanted you to know someone out here is getting enjoyment out of you two's barbs ...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Yes, Doctor
September 6, 2008 - 01:44 ET by Cool ArrowYou are very insightful.
But are the holes really there? Is a donut just a symbolic sphincter?
Is this where I smash the mirror and play pinball?
See Me, Feel Me, Touch me.
I'm Free! I'm Free! And Freedom tastes of reality.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Uncle Ernie, is that
September 6, 2008 - 05:49 ET by Roger the ShrubberUncle Ernie, is that you?
:p
Yes, Tommy
September 6, 2008 - 05:53 ET by Cool ArrowYour mother left me here to mind you
Now I'm doin' what I want to
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
If I came up to you
September 5, 2008 - 22:44 ET by BlazerIf I came up to you demanding your respect in person, Pee-on-yourself-Tee, trust me , I would gain it instantly.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Actually I wouldn't
September 5, 2008 - 22:48 ET by PopularTechIf you came up to me demanding my respect, I would laugh in your face. I am not some punk nor am I remotely little. I cannot be intimitated, unless you did something illegal.
Great ! I like big game.
September 5, 2008 - 22:54 ET by BlazerGreat ! I like big game. Especially when they're colored in all the rainbows of a fruity candy like you.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
funny
September 5, 2008 - 22:57 ET bythe line below is exactly what a small-minded punk would say
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country" poptart
Respect is not a right
September 5, 2008 - 23:15 ET by PopularTechGo read the constitution. And misusing it as some way to win an argument is pathetic.
win an argument??
September 5, 2008 - 23:35 ET bywhat argument??
you're an ijit
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country" poptart
R.D. is trying to win the argument
September 5, 2008 - 23:54 ET by PopularTechwith this manufactured propaganda campaign of lies and smears. He is now trying to paint me out to be some military hater who laughs at old veterans. All nonsense.
what argument??
September 6, 2008 - 00:10 ET bywhat lies and smears??
i know you are misogynist and christophobe but what are you talking about now??
this is about you being rude, crude, disrespectful, boorish, trollish, egotistical and spamming are you really that stupid to boot??
i perceive that your Napoleonic complex comes from your small mind
"I will disrespect who ever I feel like because this is a free country" poptart
Manufactured argument, PopTw*t? Lies and smears?
September 6, 2008 - 00:02 ET by R D HelmHardly.
This argument was won before it even started.
LOL-You dissed the wrong person last night, and I am going to make damn sure that you never forget it, either.
Troll.
-Dave.
PopTw*t, in case you haven't noticed, you are now a troll here.
September 6, 2008 - 00:12 ET by R D HelmAs such, you are fair game, pal.
And BIG fun I plan to have pinning your ears to the wall every chance I get.
You do not disrespect military veterans who were willing to risk their lives for this country. Not now, not EVER.
-Dave.
Over and Over with the propaganda
September 6, 2008 - 00:19 ET by PopularTechI insulted his intelligence, not his service (which is not illegal) and that was in response to calling me bathtub boy and saying I shaved my legs.
My grandfather risked his life for this country and lost an eye and a hand. So you ridiculous propaganda is getting old.
Stow it, RD. Let him
September 5, 2008 - 23:52 ET by NL207Stow it, RD. Let him talk. If he talks tripe, everyone will figure it out.
Troll Behaviour
September 6, 2008 - 01:03 ET by nofate"no matter how factually true."
So a bunch of references from the NYT surrogate of Achorage Alaska are supposed to suffice for a sufficient indictment of a conservative woman? Who served as a mayor, and then as a governor. Got a gas pipeline going that sat idle behind closed door meetings as entrenched politicians and big oil execs tried to work out who was to get the money. I can't believe what you've been saying here and I can't imagine what your problem with her is, but Newsweek had this to say in 2007:
PT, you really need to take the advice of some of the people here: take a deep breath and get someone you trust to read what you have written. Your tone has been confrontational from the start over Sarah's nomination. You are quickly eroding your standing here.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
Sloper
September 6, 2008 - 09:35 ET by ThisnThatI wonder if BHO or Biden know what a "Sloper" is? Given the MSM's penchance for "gotcha" questions, it would have been cool for one of them to ask this question to BHO or Biden: "Mr. Biden, do you believe having Sloper connections is necessarily a bad thing for Government employees"? Let's see if Biden's 35+ years in the Senate prepares him for understanding the nitty-gritty details of our oil industry.
___________________________________
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber
What's a sloper?
September 6, 2008 - 22:50 ET by nofateI'll bite. What's a sloper?
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
A Sloper
September 7, 2008 - 09:50 ET by I.am.DILLIGAFis someone in Alaska that works the north slope oil fields
Guns and Violence are not the answer but they are one solution to the problem== SARG
Biden vs Sarah
September 7, 2008 - 12:47 ET by nofateThanks. I guess that makes Sarah's dude a sloper. Beyond that, I don't think Biden really understands much of anything. I cannot wait to see Sarah take the senator on.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
michaelyon-online.com
DKos Press Release ??
September 5, 2008 - 22:03 ET by Free StinkerDarth Piper, seen holding the child she had out of wedlock, yawns when she hears McSame reguritate the talking points he was given by Karl Rove and Chimpy Hitler.
Complaining about Sarah Palin
September 6, 2008 - 00:39 ET by Lame CherryWhen I left Newsbusters around 5 months ago it was because of uninformed people not understanding the point of cartels were enslaving this world in the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, their financial operatives like Warren Buffet and George Soros who have manifested in one Barack Obama.
In that time a Ron Paul supporter on here was trying to get banned and like many Paul people were beyond political agitation and approaching delusion.
For those who know my blogs, I was no supporter of John McCain. I termed him Strangecain for his seeming love for nuclear war and I told him to retire and let America remember him as a hero.
I supported Fred Thompson, but as John McCain was pushed by the DailyKos mob he was what the GOP and Conservatives were stuck with.
I worked very hard getting out the policy message and prayed on it that a Conservative woman is what the ticket required to heal the rifts, make McCain solid and provide a victory.
I suggested Lynn Cheney to which I receieved a snotty reply from the Liberty Council who wanted liberal Mike Huckabee as he went to Church.
I did not give up and pushed for Mrs. Cheney or Condi Rice, neither of whom John McCain wanted or they did not want the job.
I did not get what I wanted in John McCain, nor the women, but I did get a Conservative woman in Sarah Palin.
Politics are not like getting married. You rarely have a choice and you had better make the best of the horse offered or you are going to be doing the work while Obama rides to victory.
I know the reasons behind some of the bloggers on here who are attacking Sarah Palin in not matching up to their standards in a perpetual ripping apart anyone who is not their choice.
People will note I rip Barack Obama frequently and tonight I ripped the silence of even Newsbusters on all the Obama silence and fraud.
I will offer a caveat though from before. I wrote here months ago that Newsbusters must be protected as what will we have then to forum on but Huffington or our individual blogs.
I will note that in my blogs, I have ripped Barack Obama exposing him like no one else to which I had people cheering me on the Right who were so frustrated Limbaugh etc... were not laying a glove on him all summer.
As I took on Barack Obama I never lost the FACT HE HAS TWO DAUGHTERS nor that the conclusion is Barack Obama in life needs a positive strong male like John McCain and Christian counselling to overcome his problems.
Obama is bad for America, but if America puts this 10 year old into the White House it will destroy him and destroy this nation.
Those two little girls do not need that and I have even in all I have exposed always weighed if my work would achieve a better outcome for that family.
I see enough of the attacks on Sarah Palin by those here to note that none of them look at the picture above of Piper and Trig and are stopped short of what they are really doing in savaging their mother.
I have read of charges Gov. Palin has no experience. The wife of an Alaskan fisherman with 5 children is more experience in the real world as those people die up there yearly and it is a break or break economy in fuel, danger, cold and storm.
I have read of Gov. Palin is not qualified. The Constitution begs to differ as the people with Madison deemed any citizen not a criminal, born in America and of age requirement is qualified.
America elects citizens and not qualified bloodlines or Harvard lawyers looking to be a messiah. Gov. Palin is completely qualified as is Joe Biden, although I know he is qualified for numerous indictments too.
I have read of the facts and I have read of scientific data which is supposed to be against McCain and Palin.
I only know of my assessments which are the best and only ones out there made public in profiling all 4 candidates as the Russian FSB, Chinese PLA do not make their profiling available as they used it to foment policy against an American President in his "tells".
In profiling Barack Obama and Joe Biden in their convention speeches, I logged they both did not believe what they were stating. Obama doubted he could be President and Biden knows he can not be President.
These two lied continuously in their great speeches.
In profiling Sarah Palin, I found exactly who she says she is. Her "tell" is she snarls for lack of a better word when she really makes a point she believes in. She believes in that baby above and she believes in America.
Sarah Palin is everything she has shown she is and as Jesus does not walk on water or run for office one takes what He puts on the ticket.
John McCain as I noted above I'm no fan of. He is socialist in nature, but I hope what I reveal here as I revealed in my blog has greater weight knowing I was not in his cheering section ever.
John McCain in his speech never lied once. His only negatives which did not match were he actually doesn't think his policy is as a hard as it is........which seems impossible considering he is taking on Washington and in that government now has the system to fix things, perhaps he believes individual are the source to fix things.
John McCain believes in peace, he can make peace on his terms, believes he can lead and believes in his abilities. He knows al Qaeda is not finished, Iran is constructing nuclear warheads and that in one tell he was amusing as he doesn't get hybrid cars either.
I was very uncomfortable as John McCain stunned me in who he is as much as Sarah Palin did, I had just invested a few days profiling the Democrats including Bill Clinton and they are not genuine so I expected the same from the GOP.
I instead found real people.
Cindy McCain is genuine and she believes John can do the job, never will lie as in not having lied to her and he is completely trustworthy.
The same tells come from the Palin family for Sarah Palin. As they did not speak, I do not have precise details on them.
I apologize to John McCain for this as I did in my blog, but in him there is no seperating politics from John McCain. They are one and the same in his soul.
John died twice in Vietnam. He exprienced his physical destruction and his complete psychological destruction in torture which he noted broke him.
Mr. McCain is an American Secularist. This is not what those leftist hacks attempt to state in seperation of Church and State as Jefferson never advocated that. Jefferson was against the government imposing one religion on all Ameircans.
Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh even if I kick his behind are American Secularists. I'm one too as are most here. We have our holy of holies in the White House, Capitol and Supreme Court. Our icons in Rushmore and Liberty. Our Temples in Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington and our scripture in the Constitution. We love America with our entire heart as one nation under God.
John McCain is an American Secularist. His entire speech was one of a religious revival or being saved. He was a "sinner" in not appreciating America enough, but in dying to the old John McCain in torture he was blessed as America saved him.
America is John McCain's religion under God. He loves this nation and his survival depended upon her and when broken he was told to get up and fight for her, he is going to Washington on that pure mission. He is fighting for every American and he gleaned through all candidates, checked with the most trusted person he knows in his very strong wife Cindy, and the chose Sarah Palin as the warrior who will keep John's back and to carry this on for a McCain 3rd and 4th term.
Will I fight against John McCain on social polices like illegals. You bet will, but I will fight for this man and this woman to get them there as I will submit policy as Benjamin Franklin to assist them to a better outcome instead of posting links to globalist stories whose entire purpose is to elect that Marxist 10 year old Barack Obama.
For illegals, I submit for falling apart Mexico that President McCain seize the communist foundations of Ford, MacArthur and Rockefeller of their billion dollar funds and buy up the northern Mexicans states, Americanizing them in jobs, schooling, medical and security, to create a buffer for illegals and a haven where Mexico will become a Republic and throw off the shackles of colonial socialism they are stagnating in.
This will create a beachhead trading partner of propserous people for American goods which America can funnel down as Ronald Reagan started in creating prosperous latin American states before the cartels raped their economies and installed communists like Chavez.
That is how one plays this game. You do not tear others down unless you have a fromidable policy to help assist them in building a better way as we are all in this together.
Right now Russians, central Europeans, terrorists, Chinese and Isamocommunists are attempting to destroy America. They are not going to ask as they invade if you were the one bad mouthing Sarah Palin. They will obliterate you because you are an American.
James Madison submitted a Constitution in Philadelphia he wanted. When it was over, the people he fought and railed against had instead produced a document which has stood as it was a better document being neither or and neither nor.
We are Americans people and we need to remember that just like John McCain noted as it is our highest calling. There is nothing wrong with mixing it up, but if you have nothing to build a better outcome then that is being an anarchist.
I will support Sarah Palin as she needs prayers and support now as this American nation needs support.
For those who can not look at her children and deem them enough of a reason to rethink their attacks from the right and the left, I will offer this closing.
You have just fallen into the water and are drowning, a line comes to you and you grab it. The person pulls you out and you find it is Sarah Palin.
You going to jump back in or let go of the rope?
Not on your life would you.
So if you can reason Sarah Palin is worth saving your life in being not good enough, certainly she is good enough to save your life now in this election.
Enough said
God bless.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Lame, I, for one, missed
September 6, 2008 - 11:14 ET by pbanks7Lame,
I, for one, missed you. I like a dose of conspiracy theory once in a while.
MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe, then confirming it with a poll.
Laughing my buttocks off
September 6, 2008 - 00:59 ET by Cool ArrowHey Mods!
Having now observed a considerable number of threads hijacked with doubly repetitive monotonous repetition, Might I take this opportunity to request we again be allowed to again engage in spirited religious discussion?
I promise we can keep it within the same boundaries of civility currently employed.
BWAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Cool,
September 6, 2008 - 01:03 ET by RESTLESS 1LOL. :)
BTW, that reminds me. I know Trach left, but I haven't seen hide nor hair of Futbol either. You reckon they started their own blog and are now engaged in a debate to the death?
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I've wondered too
September 6, 2008 - 01:08 ET by Cool ArrowTrach: Fut you're full of exegesis and eisegesis
Fut: Oh, fool Trach, who hath bewitched you?
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
If they are in fact still
September 6, 2008 - 01:21 ET by RESTLESS 1If they are in fact still going at it, I would love to lurk there.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
That reminds me of some old star teck, show.
September 6, 2008 - 02:16 ET by upcountrywater2 guys who look alike locked inside between universes....at each other throats forever...
maybe the mods here could do the same thing..
Once your booted from the main NB site, you can only log on and only interact with the poster you fight with. Just the 2 of you forever. ahh the internet.
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
Good one, UpC!
September 6, 2008 - 05:38 ET by Roger the ShrubberLet that be your last battlefield!
That's Funny Roger
September 6, 2008 - 05:46 ET by Cool ArrowMy wife found an autographed picture of Slim Whitman in a grab box she bought at a garage sale last week.
I was looking all over the Net for "Una Paloma Blanca", laughing my butt off the whole time.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Beautiful
September 6, 2008 - 01:55 ET by AgentAmericanI watched the first part of the speech Wednesday night and when Palin introduced Trig, my eyes welled up.
I would follow Sarah Palin to the ends of the earth and through hell, fighting for her honor.
Drill ANWAR
Spit Moose
September 6, 2008 - 09:52 ET by JimG"Here is your first lesson in politics. Nothing clean sticks"
The Palin guarantee
September 6, 2008 - 11:39 ET by Rackie"Takes a licking and keeps on ticking."
WC
September 6, 2008 - 13:16 ET by BarkerPiper Palin Grooms A Future President
Trig Palin in '44
'm sorry
September 7, 2008 - 07:47 ET by RukusI'm sorry, but this pic showed love for her little brother period! This is family learned, period! What a good sister! She shows good upbringing, period! What a good thing for Sarah. she is raising good kids! Good for her! John/Sarah '08!!
"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"
wow
September 7, 2008 - 07:12 ET by ArchConservativeI haven't posted here for awhile but there are some people going off the rails. I think the reason that this photo was put up for the captionfest was because it was the only true, unscripted moment from both conventions. It was a breath of fresh air that made millions of people smile or chuckle or in my case belly laugh because it was just a real moment. It wasn't a "reality show" piece. It wasn't a segment created by doing focus research. It was just what it was. This photo isn't supposed to tell the world that Sarah Palin is qualified (which she is) or that she's a great mom (which she is). It's just a wonderful screengrab of a girl who loves her brother and dotes on him. That's it. No agenda. No propaganda. It just is what it is.
Roger that.
You support the troops by supporting the mission! If you don't support the mission, have the guts to say you don't support the troops.
Great analysis Arch! ;-)
September 7, 2008 - 08:50 ET by Free StinkerGreat analysis Arch! ;-)
Thanks. It's just that
September 7, 2008 - 14:13 ET by ArchConservativeThanks.
It's just that after so many months of being politcally depressed and making the decision to not even vote this year, she has turned it all around for me. I can breathe again
You rang?
September 7, 2008 - 09:06 ET by Roger the ShrubberYou rang?
No Roger, sorry.
September 7, 2008 - 14:11 ET by ArchConservativeI wasn't ringing you. I was just using military jargon. After 20 some years in, it's hard to stop using the language.
That could be a helpful
September 7, 2008 - 16:09 ET by well99You can tell the msm to Foxtrot Oscar and not get kicked off the forum.
This was so stinkin cute,
September 7, 2008 - 08:48 ET by msh1973This was so stinkin cute, even my husband laughed himself silly. No doubt about it...adorable.
Thwick. Thwick.
September 7, 2008 - 10:41 ET by JWFMom has electified the base. Thwick. Need to ramp it up some more. Thwick. Maybe double it. Thwick.Thwick. Logorithmically, of sorts. Thwick. We will show the media what a true love affair looks like. Thwick. Thwick. Thwick. Liberals, Loo-oo-oo-sers! Thwick.Thwick.Thwick.
This photo is worht a 1000 words or more
September 7, 2008 - 12:15 ET by jgarciaThis photo say one thing to the whole WORLD…. How much love this little girl has to give to her brother! It shows to us that this family loves each……… you can’t fake that!
I have been thinking about why some on the left side are so angry towards this one family… is it jealously, pure hatred for family values??? I just don’t get it. However, I have noticed one thing…. No one in the MSM is mentioning how Mr. Palin will do as a father, just how Sarah will be a “bad” mother. No one is bringing up how these two people are/been raising their children together, just how Sarah will balance out her career and motherhood. Then it dawned on me… certain folks (like NOW, ect...) don’t want to bring up this subject for it would show to the world that FATHERS have rights too! I am 100% for women’s rights to choice, but I don’t like how some (those with the loudest voices)pro-choice people are using abortion as another form of birth control! Abortion should be the last resort, not the first! I would love to see better birth control, since some women and men can’t seem to use what we have now properly! I don’t like seeing babies born with additions because of the mother……… What we need is better birth control for both sides! But with that said, I believe that certain people want to see that Father’s rights remain buried! Pro-choice use to mean that the government couldn't tell a woman she has to have babies and no birth control..... now I don't know what it means!
Spit hair doos...works great on fine baby hair!
September 7, 2008 - 14:35 ET by antivenom.frFace it, the liberals are furious that this "Alaskan" family is happy and loving and it isn't "orchestrated" and since most people recognize a genuine moment, and what Piper did for Trig's hair was simply a sweet and loving gesture, most likely mimiced the practice from her mother.
Whereas when we get close to the "Chicago" family we see and angry mom who has been actively training her daughters with an indoctrination into a hateful church that preaches hate and mistrust of America and whites.
"Black liberation theology" has brain washed an angry mother and she in turn will teach this hatred to her daughters...some day soon her daughters will "mimic" their angry mommy...(oh joy!)
It is in my opinion what the picture of Piper and Trig reminds people that the "other" family does not come off as genuine...and we have seen the hate that the "other" family has enveloped themselves with...aka Wright, Moss and the Catholic nutjob...Pfleger...is NOT sweet, simple or pure.
A good military spit shine
September 7, 2008 - 19:24 ET by pocomocoA good military spit shine never hurt anyone.