DNC Chat Day 4


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A reminder: There should be

A reminder: There should be no chatting during the worship service in the Church of Obama tonight.

McNotObama '08

That about sums it up...

I can see it now some Obama fans will be a split second to late to bow and are immediately hit with stun sticks.

"Naive how dare you not bow in sequence before your lord and master! Sire what shall we do with this infidels!" Obama in his infinite wisdom thinks for a while and with his charismatic smile and a wave of his gentle hand yells... "Off with their heads!"

"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."

This whole thing is

This whole thing is ridiculous. How can they keep a straight face doing this silly operetta-like spectacle? These people are nuts.

McNotObama '08

Don't forget to kneel in

Don't forget to kneel in front of the tv when He is speaking.

I value my television too

I value my television too much, to attempt watching this banana republic dictator-like debacle without my hands and feet tied.

McNotObama '08

Trust me Chris. The Emperor

Trust me Chris. The Emperor will have your hands and feet tied after the election.

Did someone say worship? 

Did someone say worship?  Someone thought this was worthy of printing?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080828/pl_politico/20121

I wonder if anyone touched the hem of his garment and were healed of whatever ailed them?

I know. What the H are

I know. What the H are they thinking?

That's definitely not news.

We already know he doesn't even sweat.

Another gem.  On Yahoo

Another gem.  On Yahoo homepage about 30 minutes ago (they changed it only 3 minutes after I saw it and grabbed a screenshot), they have a list of 4-5 headlines.  The first one read (no kiddin)....

"Obama to say eight years is enough in speech"

Now friends, THAT'S some serious journalism!!!

Such Patriotism

 Can you imagine Republicans putting our country's flag in the trash?  RedState has the skinny:

http://www.redstate....

 

I guarantee you won't see this on NBC,CBS or MSN-BO 

Not the flag

just our country.

Obviously

tonight there are a great many very disappointed NB commentators.

For the past week or so I've read all the conspiracy theories, how Sen. Clinton was going to trash the convention or take it over in a coup, how she couldn't handle not being nominated for either President or Vice-President, how a simple roll call vote was going to tear the party apart, on and on and on and on...

Obviously that was a mightly effort of group wishful thinking.

Sheer Insannity (that great GOP water boy) has done the best he can to tell us the party is split, PUMA's matter, wedge politics are still working - and it's all turned out to be a lie.

Pathetic.  This is the best the Republicans can offer?  Wow!

Shouldn't you be busy,

Shouldn't you be busy, donning your toga?

McNotObama '08

I'm Busy...FOOTBALL Bar Cowboys Nachos Beer.

Is there something else on TV ?
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

Uh..oh..MSNBC ON TV..convention update...But.

Sorry Olberman...your Sound is OFF on the TV. I can't HEAR U !!
Go Cowboys.....Whoops ...Olberman is Off...back to Tennis on that TV
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

Do you believe that the roll

Do you believe that the roll call being called off by Clinton, and what ensued, was spontaneous?  I sure hope no one is dumb enough to believe that.

It amazes me

People are inspired with these speeches. They were supposed to give unifying speeches (rhetoric) and that's what they did. Hate the nasty republicans who sit outside your window waiting to call you names and make you take personal responsibility.  You don't think the Clintons want Obama to lose?!  In 2012 she'll be the leading candidate only if Obama loses this election and she can say "I told you.  You should have voted for me.  I would have beaten McCain." 

 

Obama the Builder - "Can we do it? Yes we can!"

How? "C'mon don't bother me with details, man.  I'm trying to win an election."

----

water boy

... no, that was the unscheduled headline speaker on Monday night.

MLK III

Just watched MLK III speak at the coronation. Reminded me of Bubba falling asleep the last time he talked.

http://www.youtube.c...

SUMMING THE CONVENTION UP

“it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”  I imagine this sentence would be the first, second and third act of the play "OBAMA"--nothing else needs to be written.

MUPPETS AT THE CONVENTION?

Imagine this--OBAMA as a muppet--I have from the first day--very skinny long arms, very slender torso, big round head, big hands, big toothy smile, small ears.....  Imagine under the collesium the muppet masters named "POLLy", "HOLLY WOOD", "LIBby" orchestrating his every smile, mannerism, speaking every word for him.  Without his muppet masters he just slumps in the corner ready to be controlled again.  God Help Us!

Tech troubles

Hey,

I loved the chat last night. But a question about tech problems in the chat. The chat kept cutting off on me and then I'd have to close out the page and re-enter. Anybody having these or other issues?

Mr.L

Me too.  I quit messing

Me too.  I quit messing with it.  I'd jump in, say a line, then it would lock and I'd have to close my browser because I couldn't even go anywhere after that.

RE

Yep that's what it did to me as well. Really annoying. Will prob. be in there anyway when the messiah speaks. I can't stay away.

Mr.L

I had problems as

I had problems as well,  

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I've experienced creakiness

I've experienced creakiness and freeze ups for the last couple of days. I don't know if it's my old lap top on it's last legs or the NB site.

McNotObama '08

Chris..it's the site...not

Chris..it's the site...not you.

It has been doing this since the chats.

Same prob's here.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

About Howard Dean

Saw him last night lamenting republican attack ads and negativity, etc.

This, from the most poisonous chair of the DNC in modern history!

Don't have time to dig up the quotes right now, but I recall Dean chucking some real bombs about how republicans are evil and stupid - the kind of stuff one might expect in a partisan blog but which party leaders have traditionally avoided.

But not Howard Dean!

I asked this on another

I asked this on another thread, but I'll throw it out again, because I think it's an interesting concept:

Is the Obama camp upset about the Paris Hilton celebrity commercial specifically, or do they know, overall, that his overblown and silly messiah schtick will collapse like a souffle, now that it's been ridiculed by McCain on national television? Can this manufactured messiah image and the spell that he has over a lot of people stand up to public laughter and jeers? Once the spell is broken, will some people realize just how foolish this all has become? I think McCain should go after this Greek temple foolishness in new ads and contrast it with his own "straight talking", plain image. Thoughts?

McNotObama '08

The truth hurts.

The truth hurts.

I am praying that the Repubs

I am praying that the Repubs do not try something to top the Greek temple. Funny thing I heard about that though, the guy who set it up also sets up "stages" and decor for Rock bands and festivals of all kinds, but he claimed that this was the MOST complicated  stage event they had ever set up. I was thinking, yea that about sums it up!!

Also I keep hearing his minion saying we want are country back. I cant help think that very thing, I want our Country back also, but from the hateful useless left

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I've been watching on

I've been watching on C-Span and I want to throw in that two very over-weight women said they can't afford four more years of the Bush administration...of course they both had sob stories...I say good, you'd better be prepared to go on a real diet then with McCain sweetie-pies...because you ain't goin' to have Obama to feed your big guts or mouths.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Snark and emotion

anneftx I grow increasingly irritated by the emotional, snarky nature of remarks from both sides of the great political divide. IMO, this election will be the a choice between the lesser of two evils. I have no emotion card in play. I'm looking at specifics, not pie in the sky hope and change drivel. I'm looking for aggressive diplomacy, not bomb first and ask questions later. I don't give a rat's derriere what the rest of the world thinks of us. People pleasing is a loser's game. As a science wonk, I want a candidate who will coherently blow a hole in Jimmy Hansen's 'hockey stick' model. A model is a model and his has been disproven and discarded by thousands of non-celebrity seeking scientists.

Ultimately I'd like a candidate who promises to cut bureauracy, pork laden legislation. Someone with a pen poised for endless vetoes. I'd like a party split btwn Legislative and Executive branches. Gridlock is preferable to new laws and regs.

As a woman, I'm terrified that a McCain presidency might mean attacks on Roe v Wade, but trust SCOTUS to prevail via the 'fixed law' argument.

Obama Derangement Syndrome is no more attractive than Bush Derangement Syndrome. Let's see more substance and less emotion.

This site, then, is probably

This site, then, is probably not the site for you.

McNotObama '08

Not probably...definitely

Not probably...definitely is more like it.

My two cents. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Your two cents are always

Your two cents are always welcome, although I think you undervalue your comments. :) I was going to add to the front of my reply that: Comments here range from the analytical to expressions of exasperation to the humorous. If your "scientific mind" demands only the "analytical" this site, then... I didn't want to leave the impression that I thought this site wasn't analytical...

McNotObama '08

"woman"

 "As a woman, I'm terrified that a McCain presidency might mean attacks on Roe v Wade, "

What kind of "woman" does it take to kill her own baby, oh, you already answered that, "one without any emotion" also known as "cold blooded killing"

(SNARK)  kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Anne, Educate yourself as

Anne, Educate yourself as to what you can support and afford and then be willing to live with it.  I wouldn't worry too much about the current status quo between abortion and anti-abortion positions.  I don't see much near-term movement in that regard.  I think most people of reason have decided that a child, who might be adopted, shouldn't be delivered feet first and stabbed in the neck to "terminate the pregnancy" as an option.  Decisions between conception and that point are open to debate.  As far as global warming goes, the days of August we've experienced where I live have been about 5 degrees below average takenover the last 20 years, so GW is over.  If you want a government split between Executive and Legislative, you better punch that chad out on the GOP side, or you won't have much of a chance of achieving any balance.  A SCOTUS that is the result of a liberal selection process will write more law than you could interpret in a decade.  You need to decide what you really want and make it happen.  BDS is a liberal disease caused by MSM kool-aid consumption.  A grain of salt is the only thing you need to take to be cured of it. 

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

algore....the vessel of

algore....the vessel of evil.

...too angry to comment any further.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I trust Gore took an Amtrak

I trust Gore took an Amtrak to get to the convention.

Planetary Emergency

Planetary Emergency dontcha' know!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

i'm switching

between 'the moment of truth' on fox  and the convention.. too bad for the libs, fox has the more 'honest' show.

Susan Eisenhower..whiny,

Susan Eisenhower..whiny, embarrassingly ungrateful b!tch.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

What, is she a Republican

What, is she a Republican for Obama? Like, oh, if an Eisenhower supports him, well then...?

McNotObama '08

She switched from

She switched from Republican to independent.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Susan Eisenhower, the 1950s

Susan Eisenhower, the 1950s called - they want your fame back.

McNotObama '08

Biden...politcal whoring

Biden...politcal whoring speech....he needs to refund his service.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Little Dick is now taking

Little Dick is now taking credit for introducing us to a man's name, we out here couldn't pronounce four years ago...

...(what a joke by the way)

What a guy Turbin is...he needs to get the blame most of all.

Vote early...Vote often!

...and are we ready for The Chosen One next....coming down from the celestial skies....to save us all....

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I still want to know

where the hell his grandmother is...and who she is?   wheres the MSM? or FOX? or ANYONE? on this issue.

Oh heck Paul...He dug

Oh heck Paul...

He dug her out from under the bus again tonight...or did ya' just happen to miss it along with all his other socialist jib-jab....lol...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Horrrrrrible!!!!!

I was expecting much more from this speech. Honestly. 

Right now, John McCain is laughing hysterically at this. He has to be.

Drill ANWAR

He's History

Someone should send him the memo tha we already won the Iraq War and that the economy is not in shambles.

 

Six and a half minutes...

That's all I could stand of Obama's speech. I'm now convinced that he does NOT have a prayer of being our next POTUS. Not only that, he has NO business being our next POTUS. He is simply a rank amatuer that has gotten where he is because of his oratory skills. That is the ONLY thing he brings to the table. We can all relax now! 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goal

The only thing hes not

The only thing hes not said/promised is "and a chicken in every pot."

Nicely Produced Spectacle

Empty rhetoric but stylish -  should get a good bounce out of this.

But this is where the Obamination peaks.

I'll enjoy McCain eating his lunch in debates when he does not have a teleprompter.

 

 

 

Well, he sure can read a

Well, he sure can read a tela prompter.

The sad part of that speech, it sounded more like Reagan then the Democrats.

I think I want to puke..

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

Tweetie is getting tingles up his leg again - watch out!

Between the firework displays and now listening to Tweetie and Bathtub Boy it is enough to barf.

Tweetie just said McCain is "full of crap."

How in the Hell dare he say

How in the Hell dare he say it isn't the military that keeps us strong!

How in the hell dare he!

POND SCUM...   PURE POND SCUM!

Color me FURIUOS!!!!!!!!!!! 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Words, Bigtimer, words

Nothing is stronger than Obama's words.

Words will make America strong.

The military will deliver pizza to the hungry.

Gag me.

It's a metaphor.

It's a metaphor.

an inappropriate one

we know what a metaphor is.

boa...did you catch it

boa...did you catch it when he said that about our military not keeping us strong...and then went on the the university's ect with his next words?

It isn't our military that keep us strong...our universities....blah blah blah... 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Jerry's Kid?

Obama learned his speech-making technique from Jeremiah Wright, and it shows. I was waiting for a "no no no, not God Bless America...." moment.

The Democrats just nominated a Fraud.

What an embarrassing display of how shallow so many people are

All this pomp and circumstance and American Idolatry is making me sick. He'll bring change all right - more waste and extravagance under the guise of helping the poor.

How does this huge overly extravagant display help the poor? Give me a break. The Rich Obama's (by his definition of $250,000 or more) have a stingy record of contributing to charity and this kind of thing shows why. Their desire for the best comes before poor people's needs.

This speech was filled with so many lies and platitudes and the press will never let the American people know the truth. Obama will be the next President.

Dee... No he

Dee...

No he won't.

Alas...we disagree...once again...not often, but we do on this.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

BT - I'd be thrilled to be wrong on this

Obama's got the money, the ground team, the media, the looks, the personality and the youth.

McCain has a huge uphill battle. It's not impossible, but very unlikely that he will win unless he gets more money to get his message past the media filters. Obama probably won't even debate him unless it's in an arena.

I read it, I listened to it, but there was nothing there.

Obama had his big Chance to state his big Change, but all I see is the same old Marxist empty promise of nothing.

Marxist

That was my impression. All he did was reel off a list of Marxist policies. I wonder who his speech writer was. Maybe Bill Ayers?

 

 

Does anyone still have any idea

how he's going to do all the stuff he's promised? I know what he wants to do, I have just never heard him explain how he's going to do it.

Conservatives deal in realism - This is the situation, how are we going to take care of it. 

Liberals in idealism - Let's not fix the current problem, let's dream of the perfect solution that can never be implemented.  

Case in point: Off shore drilling.  Of course it's a short term solution, no one ever said it was a long term solution.  Even McCain doesn't think its a long term solution; its just one part of the complete solution.  But we need both.  And Obama only promised that we would be off Mid East oil in 10 years.  How we get there I have no idea and I really think he has no idea either.  And other than possibly tapping our reserves I have not heard any ideas from LaBamba other than keeping my tires inflated to help me today.      

 

Obama the Builder - "Can we do it? Yes we can!"

How? "C'mon don't bother me with details, man.  I'm trying to win an election."

Bill Ayers indeed...who

Bill Ayers indeed...who worships and was taught at the knees of the belief of Saul Lewinsky...along with Obama, Hillary and other So-Called Progressives....I call them Marxists...or whatever name you wish to use.

Dedicated to Lucifer....read it....and weep.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

U2

It looks like Chris Wallace is starting to get a tingle up his leg.

Barker...I agree...I saw

Barker...I agree...I saw that and had to turn it before he was done with his glorified praise...I clicked it to another channel for a bit thinking he would be done..glory..he was sill going on and on...disgusting in my opinion.

Bill Krystal was no different from what I could stand of him. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

What a POS

Obama said that America "left a city to drown", referring to New Orleans no doubt. As I remember, Americans gave billions and billions of dollars in taxes and charity to the city of New Orleans, and others.

Shame, shame, shame on you Obama.

8:47 PM PST. Olbermann just

8:47 PM PST. Olbermann just called out the AP for an analysis that Charles Babbington (sp?) just wrote, where he did not praise the Obama speech. Olbermann said that it was a failure on the part of the organization (the AP) to allow this to be published, and he told Babbington to find new work.

Way to keep it balanced, Keith!

"Look, when Keith anchors, he plays it straight down the line.” MSNBC President Phil Griffin

http://www.xanga.com/mikeknaj

"The shadow proves the sunshine

Time for Camp

Who dares to disparage the Glorious Leader's speech?!

OFF WITH THEIR HEAD!

Mikenj... I caught that

Mikenj...

I caught that too...he also said for those who have ever heard of Babbington (which I know who he is) as if it should matter because he isn't a leftist... like the opinion of a conservative that was going out on the AP matters not...which was exactly his filthy point.

Too bad Keith...you POS....deal with it.

Newsflash Keith and others on all networks...YOU do not dictate to us who to vote for..unless you are a lemming. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

That was actually a good

That was actually a good speech by Obama-man. McCain will need to lay out a speech as good if not better to get the support of both sides of this fractured country. It will be a long road to defeat if McCain doesn't get it right. Before a pile-on of sorts, McCain is even in the polls even with the halo of Obama. This election for McCain will need the support of all repubs, most of the indies, and some of the hilldabeest dimobats. If he doesn't capture them, game over. At least I can hope for some real fun with a few cute broads in the twin cities! I'm fully stocked with my litle blue pills! GOP here I come...Ubercon

Uber...Go soak in your hot

Uber...Go soak in your hot tub with your imaginary friends...I am getting sick of hearing about your hot babes...

Evidently it is only in your dreams...or you wouldn't have the need to keep saying that here.

Please get a life and keep it personal...we don't need to hear your fantasies here.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

The most common phrase in Obama's speech

"John McCain"  Johnny must have felt his ears burn.  It was like he was there with the libtards.

How about that music with the fireworks?  That was dark and spooky!  I expected zombies to reach out and grab... say, there WERE zombies there!  Thousands of em!

Final nail in coffin for objective journalism

Although objective journalism has probably never really existed, the Old Media of today don't even try to hide their bias.

As for MSLSD, does anybody except for the unwashed left watch Stupid and Stupider?

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

Beware of Tim Pawlenty

"The era of small government is over ... government has to be more proactive, more aggressive." - Tim Pawlenty

"It looks like we should have listened to President Carter" - Tim Pawlenty

"Climate change is real. Human behavior is ... responsible. Those who don't think so are simply not right. We should not spend time on voices that say it's not real." - Tim Pawlenty

How Not to Run for Vice President (The Washington Post)
Pawlenty's Record (The Wall Street Journal)
A Big-Government Running Mate for McCain? (Cato Institute)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

The VP has no power and doesn't really matter

He needs to be pro-life and a decent speaker and debater.

McCain is much more likely to Veto spending bills than Obama, almost certain to appoint more conservative judges, certain to keep the fight on the terror going strong, and certain to keep taxes lower than Obama no matter who his VP is.

Give me a break

Right, Pro-life is the most important thing for the VP, please. BTW Romney is all of these and then some.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Pop tech - Romney is my favorite

but it doesn't really matter - it's McCain's policies that will be implemented not the V.P.'s. Pro-life is not always the most important - just with McCain because some pro-lifers don't believe he'll appoint conservative judges and a pro-choice pick would exacerbate their fears.

As long as the VP is more conservative than Obama, he/she is acceptable to me. I'm voting against Obama not for McCain.

I agree with this Dee

As long as the VP is more conservative than Obama, he/she is acceptable to me. I'm voting against Obama not for McCain.

But, PT makes a good point, cause ol' Mac is what, 72? What if he keel's over? Being POTUS isn't the most stress free job in America and whomever he picks is next in line. 

I think his choice of VP is more relevant than most people think. 

 

 

 

If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love youBut if you really make them think, they'll hate you.

Don Marquis 1878-1937

I agree with that HBK and certain choices will make me

much happier than others. Still any of the names floating out there are better than Obama (even Leiberman), so I'll vote for McCain no matter who he picks. If Obama gets in, he'll be in for 8. I do think Obama will get in, but I'm not going to be part of the reason.

I live in IL too so my vote for McCain will be pointless. I'm just hoping that if Obama wins, that it's with less than 50% of the vote so they don't feel they have a huge mandate.

I agree but

I understand that McCain's polices would be implemented which is why I said Pro-Life is not really relevant for the V.P. The V.P needs to bring to the table qualities that the President would be lacking and has the experience to become president in a worse case scenario. I see your point about the fears but Abortion is the least of McCain's problems.

An example is that I am personally Pro-Life but could vote for Rudy and would not have any fear of him running the country if something happened to McCain. Picking some rookie just because he is Pro-life is not a good idea IMO.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Right I agree poptech

I think McCain will keep his word on judges so I'm not personally that worried about that (and I feel strongly about abortion). I do think others are worried though and it makes a huge difference because abortion is the only thing that conservatives get fired up about enough to protest, vote and donate money.

I too am more worried about his economic policies (but not as worried as I am about Obama's). I really don't thing the VP will have an effect on any of his policies.

Quit spamming this message

Quit spamming this message everywhere. It's annoying. And Pawlenty may not be perfect but he's WAY better than a lot of the other choices McCain was considering.

"Look, when Keith anchors, he plays it straight down the line.”
MSNBC President Phil Griffin

http://www.xanga.com/mikeknaj

"The shadow proves the sunshine"

How about I don't

Sorry but the truth hurts and people need to be aware of the Global Warming Alarmist Pawlenty.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

No Pawlenty ! Never!  No

No Pawlenty !

Never!  No more RINOs! 

"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)

OMG Free... We

OMG Free...

We agree!

Shite happens every now and then....lol. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh