For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: WSJ advocating the stockpiling of food?
Food prices are already rising here much faster than the returns you are likely to get from keeping your money in a bank or money-market fund. And there are very good reasons to believe prices on the shelves are about to start rising a lot faster...Stocking up on food may not replace your long-term investments, but it may make a sensible home for some of your shorter-term cash. Do the math.
Does this make sense? If people really do this, want it compound the problem? Is the Journal being responsible advocating this? Doesn't this add to the bubblish look of this grains price rise?
Comments Policy
If I'm right about inflation
April 25, 2008 - 09:56 ET by sarcasmoThen they're right about buying bulk/canned food, regardless of shortages. Any bad side-effects should simply be seen to magnify the ethanol-stupidity of government subsidy farming.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Sarc, you are correct, this
April 25, 2008 - 10:10 ET by dscottSarc, you are correct, this will magnify the effect of the ethanol stupidity showing the falllacy of AGW in a Reductio ad absurdum fashion. The problem is while we in the US may have the financial resources to pay more, the world's poor do not. This is truly irresponsible, millions could potentially starve in the third world by needlessly driving up the price further. Congress must come to their senses quickly by repealing the Ethanol mandates and subsidies. I have to change my tag line, this is the new issue dejour.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
It's been happening for decades with DDT
April 25, 2008 - 10:13 ET by sarcasmoAnd 'most everyone sleeps just fine. We now have a disaster on our hands, so I say let's blame the rightful party for once -- government. "Hoarders" always end up getting bad PR for behaving rationally in the face of an irrational government policy's predictable effects, and it's neither fair or intellectually consistent.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Spelling check needed
April 25, 2008 - 10:15 ET by NL207Spelling check needed here: I believe given the true nature of the AGW scare campaign and the intrusive government meddling in food markets being driven by it, the correct spelling for this should be "phallacy", not "fallacy", as more indicative of what is actually transpiring here.
a solution
April 25, 2008 - 14:33 ET by misterbill"The problem is while we in the US may have the financial resources to pay more, the world's poor do not."
We will increase immigration legal and illegal so that most of the world's poor will come here. We will find a way to feed them.What the heck! Why not??? There are any number of Americans who believe we have unlimited resources here.
Enough of McCain
April 25, 2008 - 09:58 ET by ricklailI have had my fill of McCain. I really don't know what to do in November. Yesterday's little trip to NO did it for me. He trashed Bush when the problem was not his fault. Then he trashes the NC GOP over the O'bama ad. The O'bama ad is tame compared to what is going to be thrown at him from the likes of MoveOn.org and the Soro machine. Enough of him.
"A pharisee is hard on others and easy on himself, but a spiritual man is easy on others and hard on himself." A.W. Tozer (Pharisee=modern day liberal)
Bush deserved it.
April 25, 2008 - 10:07 ET by Missouri ConservativeBush's response to Katrina was an absolute disaster, and McCain called him on it. Good for him. Bush spent hundreds of billions on a socialist solution to rebuilding New Orleans ala the Soviet Union. McCain criticizied Bush from the angle that it was a failure of big government, and he's right.
"women and minorities hardest hit"
Katrina effect because of Pres was a media lie
April 25, 2008 - 10:31 ET by ChrisMillsSorry, MC, but the slow response to Katrina was the fault of none other than two dems. The mayor of NO Nagin (D) had busses lined up to take people out of the city and he refused saying (and I paraphrase) "My people are tough. We can take it." Unnecessary deaths were his fault. The governor of Louisiana at the time, Blanco (D) refused National Guard intervention that Bush offered right away and delayed saying in effect, "I won't let the federal gov't take over my state." Unecessary damage and slow down to the city is her fault.
I'm surprised this NewsBusters forum has the defense of a liberal media hit job that was the biggest reason for the pres's low approval numbers. McCain should stop pandering to media lies and start thinking on his own. We should all be very dissappointed in him.
To be sure, Nagin and Blanco deserve a lot of blame.
April 25, 2008 - 10:38 ET by Missouri ConservativeBut Bush embraced a New Deal-style federal program to rebuild New Orleans with hundres of billions of federal tax dollars. He should have just provided emergency relief, then cut all the red-tape and regulations, and let the people, through their local governments rebuild the place. You have to go through several different federal agencices just to tear down an old building. It's no wonder it's taking so long.
Anyway, did Bush get a raw deal? Yes. Did the media completely ignore the responsibility Blanco and Nagin had? Absolutely. But there is some blame to be placed at the doorstep of W.
"women and minorities hardest hit"
Good point
April 25, 2008 - 10:50 ET by ChrisMillsGood point about the New Deal re-building. That was a bad move. The media hit job was wrong and Bush responded to it by giving in to their demands. That was wrong. It didn't stop the MSM's hit job and it slowed down long-term recovery. The short-term rescue effort that McCain just trashed the administration for is still unjustified no matter how we slice the overall efforts. McCain should stop apologizing to Obama for justified criticism against him and start apologizing to Bush for his own unjustified criticism.
Good point
April 25, 2008 - 10:50 ET by ChrisMillsGood point about the New Deal re-building. That was a bad move. The media hit job was wrong and Bush responded to it by giving in to their demands. That was wrong. It didn't stop the MSM's hit job and it slowed down long-term recovery. The short-term rescue effort that McCain just trashed the administration for is still unjustified no matter how we slice the overall efforts. McCain should stop apologizing to Obama for justified criticism against him and start apologizing to Bush for his own unjustified criticism.
No, it was a failure of
April 25, 2008 - 10:37 ET by motherbeltNo, it was a failure of LOCAL government.
"McCain called him on it. Good for him"?????
I was trying to warm up to him, but he blew it totally yesterday. He is trashing the Presdent who supported him. He has no shame.
I said it before: there is not a Democrat McCain won't suck up to, or a Republican he won't kick.
He is a self-serving, disloyal, I can't even think of what to call him, I'm so angry!!!
McCain must not realize,
April 25, 2008 - 10:53 ET by general companyMcCain must not realize, that the folks in N.O. may enjoy that type of rhetoric, but the rest of the state sure as heck don't. And while I understand McCains need for a few Dem votes, this is certainly uncalled for. This is no better then what any loyal Dem would say.
In La there is New Orleans, and then there is the rest of the state: Buddy Reomer
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
McCain must not realize,
April 25, 2008 - 11:05 ET by motherbeltMcCain must not realize, that the folks in N.O. may enjoy that type of rhetoric, but the rest of the state sure as heck don't.
See my comment below.. I agree, and neither do they in the rest of the country!
MC, The story of the
April 25, 2008 - 10:43 ET by Hunter12MC, The story of the Katrina disaster will be laid at the feet of 50 plus years of levee districts' mismanagement and a stupid mayor and governor when it is written. President Bush would have been in violation of State's Rights had he acted in any manner prior to being asked by Blanco. The way aid was passed out could be blamed on FEMA, but any action to screen for people in actual need would have been construed as racist by the press. They actually tried to say blacks were left behind, when the statistics of the rescues made showed this to be untrue.
Two things stand out from this disaster.
One, people raised in a culture of "Everything is owed to me" don't know how to pick themselves up and rebuild. Compare NO to the Mississippi parishes. Look at NO herself. Where neighborhoods have returned, they were generally seeded around one or two individuals who returned as soon as it was possible and rebuilt on their own.
Two, maybe it isn't a good idea to live in a place below sea-, river-, and lake-level in an area prone to storms that produce tidal surges and large amounts of rain.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Read McCain's speech.
April 25, 2008 - 10:49 ET by Missouri Conservativehttp://www.realclear...
It's clear that his criticism of Bush is the NOT the liberal left-wing Democrat angle. He criticized the incompetent federal and state bureaucracies. He also laid blame at the feet of state and local governments too, referencing the school buses.
You are dead right in that the welfare state of New Orleans contributed a great deal, but the disaster was exacerbated by a big-government Soviet-style rebuilding effort.
Y'all need to be prepared for McCain to run against Bush in this election to some degree. This is one instance, at least in my mind, where Bush was not at his best.
"women and minorities hardest hit"
I agree that the situation
April 25, 2008 - 11:28 ET by Hunter12I agree that the situation could have been handled better. Maybe the first people caught ripping off the aid efforts could have been executed on national television and an amnesty period established for others to turn themsleves in. Maybe a trail following all the money allocated for levee improvements for the last 75 years could have been created and which Democrat on which board lined their pockets the most could have been revealed. Maybe an IQ test for Nagin and Blanco could have been administered, their incompetence disclosed, and a recall been effected prior to their stupid decisions costing the lives lost in the flooding. My point is that blaming President Bush for a slow initial response is ludicrous and that is what the MSM was laying at his doorstep. About all he could have done differently was mass the National Guard at the Tennessee border and wait for the storm track to play out. "President Wastes Millions on Un-needed Troop Activation!" would have been the headlines when an undetected warm current in the gulf deflected Katrina to Texas or Mexico.
McCain will be smart to run against Bush as well as Obama or Clinton, because the media has created a monster by selective reporting and outright distortions and the general public has swallowed the whole line. Bush is not without blame for the situation we find ourselves in. It will be interesting to see how history paints the picture of his presidency.
Just think, the media has painted a guy ripping off the gullible to the tune of billions and trying to force an austere lifestyle on all of us to sustain his own as the savior of all and "Oh, what might have been."
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
One, people raised in
April 25, 2008 - 11:07 ET by general companyOne, people raised in a culture of "Everything is owed to me" don't know how to pick themselves up and rebuild.
While I think some of this sentament is true regardless of where you are, this is no more true here in N.O. then any where else. The media has bombarded the country into believeing that we are a helpless lot with no capabillities of our own. They did it to justify their ridicule of Bush. Many of us are absolutly livid with this message, and I for one have always gone out of my way to let the folks know how much we appreciate their help. I have met many volunteers while traveling and helping our neighboring communities. Arguing logistics is one thing, bashing the victims who continue to be used as pawns in a political message is ridiculous
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
In the city itself, the
April 25, 2008 - 13:32 ET by Hunter12In the city itself, the instances where the people didn't sit on their hands and wait for the relief effort to come to them and served as the catalyst to reviatlize their neighborhoods were the most inspiring. Some of these people served as the phoenix in the rebirth of communities. There was a case of one mother who said she had to do it herself to hold her family together. Those people who you saw sitting in hotels and trailers waiting to see how much the government was going to give them had the opposite effect on me. I realize this in a generalization and some people had to wait for the money to afford to rebuild, but not all did. Some seemed to epitomize that welfare paradigm which serves as a trap for themselves and their children. I agree that some of these people were put on display to try and embarass the administration. I also believe that some of the superstars that came through complaining and didn't return, were just pushing a liberal political agenda. People like Pitt and Connick, who have complained about conditions but put their money and efforts where their mouth are, should be commended. I hate to see them raving about Bill Clinton and his photo-op appearances though.
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
I maybe some what thin
April 25, 2008 - 14:07 ET by general companyI maybe some what thin skinned about this, but MOST of us here havent been waiting around for any handouts even though our insurance Co's have abandoned us and a SMALL amount of our political leaders betrayed us as well. The problem was the medias spin on the situation. I have stated time and again about how you never hear this from our hard hit neighbores because they had leadership, we had political pawns. As far as the folks who were living in trailers, not sure where you exspected them to go, many had thier homes destroyed or severly contaminated.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Shut Up John McCain
April 25, 2008 - 10:18 ET by GothampcI agree. McCain should keep his mouth shut. This is a foreshadowing of what he's going to be like as POTUS. Running his mouth when he doesn't need to say anything. I too don't know what I'm going to do come November. I'm not voting Dem and I don't want a RINO.
As far as NO is concerned, it is a failure of the Democratic Party running the government. There is a thing called "states rights". The federal government just can't come rushing in and start bossing the local and state government around. Blanco and Nagin were unprepared. If they knew there was a potential levee problem, why wasn't it addressed years before the emergency. Is Bush supposed to come up with an evacuation plan for every city across the US? No, that is not Bush's responsibility. Bush isn't blameless in the incident, but he certainly wasn't the main player in the problem.
I agree also. He should
April 25, 2008 - 11:03 ET by motherbeltI agree also. He should just shut up. I thought he wanted to run a "respectful" campaign???? I guess being "respectful" only applies to how he will deal with the Democrats.
Update: Do you think McCain (which stand for "son of Cain") has any idea how many people he alienated with that stupidity????
He may have made a few more friends among liberals and done some more sucking up to blacks, but come November they won't vote for him anyway. He did blow off the Republicans he needs!
"Do you think McCain (which
April 25, 2008 - 11:30 ET by Gothampc"Do you think McCain (which stand for "son of Cain")"
LOL. That made my day.
I blame the RNC. They have chucked their conservative voters out the door in favor of trying to bring in "Reagan Democrats". They need to force McCain into taking on a stellar VP.
Skipping Senate Votes
April 25, 2008 - 12:58 ET by GothampcAnd while pandering to the black Democrats in NO, he was skipping Senate votes.
"McCain skipped the vote to campaign in New Orleans."
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=213&sid=1392352
Check out
April 25, 2008 - 10:03 ET by TECheck out this: the Associated (with terrorists) Press fails to identify indicted former Congressman Craig Washington of Houston as a Democrat. Washington is accused of aggravated assault, a second degree felony. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D908FKKG2.htm
stockpiling
April 25, 2008 - 10:15 ET by candanceThis rice shortage is just the beginning. In the future we'll have our electricity rationed to save the planet, rations on how much gas we can buy, and rations on high demand foods.
Then Obama will change us into a bigger version of Cuba and China and Russia will overtake us as superpowers.
Rationing is a Democrat's Dream
April 25, 2008 - 10:23 ET by GothampcThe US already went through rationing with the Carter Administration and gasoline. Why anyone still votes for Democrats after that incident is beyond me.
People are stupid.
April 25, 2008 - 10:46 ET by sunandsteelEvery so often they get sucked into the promise of free money, better life, blah blah blah and look how it turns out.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
No Free Money?
April 25, 2008 - 11:25 ET by GothampcYou mean Ed McMahon's not going to show up at my door with the balloons and the confetti and the big check? But I sit home all day waiting for him to ring my doorbell.
LOL
April 25, 2008 - 12:26 ET by sunandsteelHe just might, you never know.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
STIMULUS CHECK: THE UGLY SIDE
April 26, 2008 - 09:54 ET by reelman46STIMULUS CHECK: THE UGLY SIDE
What
if your best buddy had his house burn halfway down? What if you wanted
to help? What if you bought him a plasma TV? What if you paid for the
TV with his VISA? That is exactly what the congressional royalty did
with the so-called stimulus check. Did the congress cut their wild
spending (vote-buying) by $150 billion to send you a little boost? No.
Did the congress reform the tax system to really help you long-range?
No. Did the congress reform the way they spend recklessly with annual
4-12% increases in most everything? Did congress reform the broke
Social Security system they looted for decades to buy votes? No. Did
the congress offer to suspend the federal gas tax for the rest of 2008
and balance that with cuts in waste? No. Did the congress pledge never
again to spend tens of billions in pork to buy votes? No. Did the
congress show any leadership or vision? No.
So what did they do? Your congress saw a chance to be your Sugar Daddy
hero and buy some poll points (maybe some votes too) with a small check
that will be gone before the next weekend. Turn around and take a look.
Your house is still halfway burnt down. Your VISA took the hit. Will we
ever stop being suckers? Will we ever rage against a serially
malevolent congress and its financial scams? Government is the problem.
Its our money.
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
Question of the Day
April 25, 2008 - 10:25 ET by GothampcI believe the media is really playing up "food shortage". Whether it really exists or not, I don't know because I've learned not to trust the MSM.
My question is: Is the liberal media creating a food shortage because they hate Bush and want one more whack at him before he leaves office?
This is going to be a
April 25, 2008 - 10:41 ET by motherbeltThis is going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. They recommend stockpiling, and if they are not careful, they are going to create a panic and we'll be having food riots here before you know it. Then it will be interesting to see who they will blame.
MB, let em rant. The more
April 25, 2008 - 10:51 ET by bassndudeMB, let em rant. The more attention they bring to the food shortage, the brighter the light on these bio-fules. Sooner or later it will become common knowledge that they produce more "green house gases" than the good ole fashion gas we used to burn. When that comes out, the whole global warming scam will be in the full light of day. Gore knows bio-fules pollute more than plain gas. He will not be able to deny it and will be exposed to all, as the flim-flam man he is.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Oh, joy.
April 25, 2008 - 10:29 ET by sarcasmoI'm in a red state.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
I’m sorry I am not hijack
April 25, 2008 - 10:39 ET by USA4freedomI’m sorry I am not hijack the thread, I just heard John Mc Lame on the radio. I am so spitting mad. Between basically calling us (the help of the RNC) here in North Carolina racist because of the ad that is running showing Obama’s connection with Rev. Wright,with not one racist remark in it. I amsooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fed up with him.
Take note RNC, if you don’t want the base conservatives in, just come out and tell us, we will go elsewhere. (on second thought maybe you are)
Well I can respect the Democrats for one thing they know what they want: big government, reduction of speech, rights for terrorist, tax and spend, big spending, immigration (reform)..aka open borders, ear marks, tax the hell out of us, over global warming, more government regulations, bigger government burden, some one who complains that the people of New Orleans was crapped on via the federal government... Oh that’s right, that is what John Mc Lame ass is doing right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why in the hell did he not go over to the Democrat party when he had the chance!!!! No, he with the help of the RNC is turning our party into DNC LITE!!!!!!!! (AND NOT TOO LITE)
TO YOU JOHN MC CAIN, AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE RNC GO TO HELL..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
On top of Mc Cain calling us
April 25, 2008 - 11:53 ET by USA4freedomOn top of Mc Cain calling us racist is the fact that now this issue is off the table because if he brings it up they will call him aflip-flop. What a total fool.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
The only racist remarks
April 25, 2008 - 12:06 ET by Jack BauerThe only racist remarks I've heard regarding the Reverend Wright were ranted by uh --- the Reverend Wright.
Oh -- and Senator Obama when he called his grandma a "typical white person." I believe this type of "stereotyping" is also regarded a racist in some circles.
I have one question for any
April 25, 2008 - 12:29 ET by USA4freedomI have one question for any Mc Lame people: if he is not loyal to us, why should we be loyal to him or.. the RNC.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
In theory he would be better
April 25, 2008 - 12:40 ET by sunandsteelIn theory he would be better than either of the two dems. In theory mind you. I would bet that whoever gets elected will be a one-termer anyway.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
With that thought in mind,
April 25, 2008 - 13:52 ET by USA4freedomWith that thought in mind, would a liberal Republican President push through more liberal ideas with a willing Democrat party and the spineless Republicans, or would a Democrat president be fought via a oppositionparty, I don’t know but like I tell my son with his girlfriend, if you keep eating &(*&%^$ sandwiches someone (the leadership of the RNC) will keep feeding it to you.. I personally am tired of the meal..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
USA4
April 25, 2008 - 13:58 ET by bigtimer...I personally am tired of the meal..
Me too USA....me too.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Any way you look at it, we
April 25, 2008 - 14:36 ET by sunandsteelAny way you look at it, we are going to get screwed. McCain is a douche, and depending on which dem it is you are going to be called racist or sexist for opposing them. No win situation.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
Jack
April 25, 2008 - 15:26 ET by ricklailThere were 2 nimrods on with O'Reilly last night who say that blacks could not be racist because they were racial, if I heard right.
"A pharisee is hard on others and easy on himself, but a spiritual man is easy on others and hard on himself." A.W. Tozer (Pharisee=modern day liberal)
Sarc, I'm in a pink
April 25, 2008 - 11:05 ET by Hunter12Sarc, I'm in a pink state. Our Democrat governor has managed to trash a fairly robust economy in 5 years by trying to hide his tax increases on businesses as fees and such. He's driven the trucking industry to Indiana and Iowa and killed several other ventures with licensing costs and such. He wanted a gross receipts tax to finance a new health care plan when the plan already in place is not honored anywhere because the state doesn't pay their bills. He should soon be sharing a cell with our last governor (for sake of disclosure, a Republican) when the Tony Rezko trial ends and Tony turns government witness to get a lighter sentence.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
CNN Just Accuses Administration of trying to start Korean war
April 25, 2008 - 11:39 ET by ThisnThat"U.S. claims that North Korea may have assisted in developing a covert nuclear reactor in Syria could be a bid by White House hardliners to derail talks with Pyongyang and force confrontation, says CNN's Christiane Amanpour."
This was just posted on CNN's website. What is going on at CNN? Why are they trying to invent news?
And notice her phrase "White House hardliners". A whole set of intentional implication, here. (1) A Government within a Government, at conflict with each other, completely out of control; (2) Darth Vader performing illegal control over Bush's mind; (3) President Bush clueless.
CNN has really lowered their standards -- if they ever had any to begin with.
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WSJ
April 25, 2008 - 11:53 ET by iveseenitallTalk about the WSJ. Have you read Peggy Noonan's article on President Bush? What an elitist piece of crap. Poor Peggy laments her iconveniences at the airport and, surprise, blames President Bush! Moreover, she implies that we should let our guard down. And she has the nerve to taut herself a "conservative' columnist. Sickening, unctuous Peggy. "Loyalty" is not in her vocabulary.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
25 April - Winter Storm Warning
April 25, 2008 - 11:46 ET by ThisnThatHere's the forecast for Grand Rapids MN today:
Al Gore -- want to do any interviews with NBers right now?
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber
Supposed to be 38 degrees
April 25, 2008 - 12:00 ET by bassndudeSupposed to be 38 degrees on Sunday morning here. Rain this morning and tonight Saturday evening into Sunday morning. This is Oklahoma!! We should be having 75 to 85 degree days, rain now and then. But Nooooooo! Al Gore has to go and toot his global warming horn, and poof! We have the next ice age,(day after tomorrow)!!!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Gas Prices
April 25, 2008 - 12:07 ET by ThisnThatObama addressed the nation today regarding the "gas price" crisis. He, of course, blamed the Bush Administration, Dick Cheney, oil companies, our "failed energy policies", and corporate lobyists. His solutions: Alternative energies; higher efficiency standards; creation of a Green Energy Sector; and, of course, Electing Obama As President. NOT ONE WORD ABOUT additional drilling in the U.S.; nor getting our nuclear energy industry moving again.
Also, today -- as usual, I saw many teanagers driving the 0.65 miles to school today in their private cars; several were smoking cigarettes. At least once they had to stop while a school bus was picking up its few passengers -- going to the same school! What's wrong with that picture? And based upon this observation of real-world activity, why should I ever listen to all the moaning and groaning over increased gas prices from people who take NO RESPONSIBILITY for their own actions?
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber
Any mention of Halliburton
April 25, 2008 - 15:47 ET by Roger the ShrubberAny mention of Halliburton or the Bilderberg Group?
What won't they steal?
April 25, 2008 - 12:12 ET by Ruths husband BenNow its not safe for men in the Congo. But I wonder what they do with them?
“There’s nobody (white) on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any (other) ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
(parentheticals added for clarity)
I don't know, Ruths hubby
April 25, 2008 - 12:38 ET by Mica the MagnificentI don't know, RHB, but I won't be eating any imported Slim Jims for a while.
very sorry:)
April 25, 2008 - 15:14 ET by TruthMongerI was out yesterday afternoon and I see bigotboy and his henchies had an Open Thread pile-on - with some unresolved questions - so here is the belated update - tracheostomy style - see y'all Monday - until then - maybe you guys could drag a Muslim or two behind your pickup trucks:)
hey bigot boy:)!
another fine hack job as always
sorry but those so-called "Muslims" in your links only account for maybe 1% of Islam at best, so no apology necessary...
It is our misfortune that we all cannot live together especially as Christianity was built upon Judaism and Islam on both. We all share a common denominator but it is this that divides us all. Frankly, I'm happy to be a minority if that means I accept who you are and what you are without judging.
Rubina, London, United Kingdom
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/yoursay/index.php?ysc_id=4
Hi little girl!
April 24, 2008 - 13:15 ET by Roger the Shrubber
Do you simply cut-and-paste your daily excusings of the murder of innocents, or do you re-type them everyday?
I just post links like you do, schmucktard
Must be a heavy load, having to make up excuses for a religion that butchers thousands. I guess it takes a "bigot" like me to expose what an impotent, flaccid little justifier of death you are, douchemonger.
I don't excuse terrorists, you just keep calling them Muslims, and I just keep pointing that out - try to get a clue someday bud
Oh, here's some guidelines for you to follow, for the next time you visit your gynecologist in Belgium. You should get checked out, you know.
(nod and wave:) - you betcha rog!
While you stew over whatever lame, ineffectual comeback you are contemplating, chew on these two stories about tolerance and moderation.
(nod and wave:) - you betcha rog!
Hello, TM, you seem to have
April 24, 2008 - 14:47 ET by Cortillaen
Hello, TM, you seem to have forgotten about our little game. The score was 5-0 in my favor, as I recall, right after I finished dismantling your four examples of "peaceful" Muslims.
FYI a game called "Golf" is the only game you can score yourself
To recap, one was a liar catering to both sides, though his blog seems rather one-sided in favor of extremism, and the other three were all active advocates of extremism, including the highest authority in the Sunni sect. I was eagerly awaiting your next try, too. Also, I think it is rather telling that, in addition to the numerous examples of murderous, extremist Muslims, none your supposedly-contradictory examples truly do so, and 75% of them actually endorse extremism. Fun, huh? Oh, and don't forget this poll, the one which still says over half of Muslims think mocking their prophet is justification for death. So much for your unfounded "those so-called 'Muslims' in your links only account for maybe 1% of Islam at best". I don't need to call you names. Taking your arguments apart with the truth is much more satisfying.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
dude, you have certainly learned to love yourself - and as they say - it's the greatest love of all:)
can't seem to find this BS you're spouting above online - so if you care to start a woodshed thread I'll be glad to clear up all of your sad confusion - and only 50% of Muslims believe blasphemy is punishable by death?! We Christians are still pretty solid at 100%...
TM, Your problem isn't that
April 24, 2008 - 16:55 ET by Hunter12
TM, Your problem isn't that the "so-called "Muslims" in your links only account for maybe 1% of Islam" are terrorists, it's that 99% of terrorists are Muslims.
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terror2000_2001.htm#page_15
Until the 99% that are pacifists in your view put a stop to that 1%, they will have to share in the bad name.
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terror2000_2001.htm#page_15
I do question how a practicing Muslim can ignore those parts of the Koran that tell them to spread the word by sword if necessary.
My daily answer - they are not PRACTICING Muslims:)
On something that is unreleated: a matryed man gets 72 virgins in paradise. What does a female matyr receive? I am being sincere in asking this question and am not mocking the Islamic faith.
not sure, sorry
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Regarding the 72 virgins
April 24, 2008 - 18:31 ET by Cortillaen
Regarding the 72 virgins thing, I proposed what seems to be the most reasonable explanation here. Like you, I don't mean to mock Islam, but when my reasoning suggests bribery via promised sex, I'm not entirely sure how to avoid it. Well, wouldn't be the first time I've "blasphemed" and surely won't be the last (note that I distinguish between blasphemy, the arrogant, ignorant mockery of a religion's deity/prophets/tenets and "blasphemy", discussing aspects of a religion its defenders don't want discussed). Given the manner in which the religion was created and the primary targets at such time, I think my proposal is quite reasonable. Never mind the accounts of Muhammad declaring women to be mentally deficient because their testimony is half as accurate as that of a man because they are mentally deficient. No, I'm not kidding. Oh, and he said the majority of those in hell were women. For some reason, it sounds like Muhammad didn't care overmuch for women, huh?
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
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Did you know trhat these
April 24, 2008 - 18:40 ET by NL207
Did you know trhat these virgins are all clones of Rosie O'Donnell?
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That's just wrong, NL!
April 24, 2008 - 18:44 ET by Blonde
Hillarious, but wrong. (My friend from Texas always says that....."That's just Wrong"....so imagine it with the twang! :).
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
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In other, somewhat related, news...
April 24, 2008 - 20:12 ET by Cortillaen
Does anyone know who this guy is? This segment is simply all kinds of awesome, and I'd love to check out some more of his material.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
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72 virgins??
April 24, 2008 - 18:46 ET by Mica the Magnificent
Why do we assume the 72 virgins are 'women?'
A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
and this one has never been plowed, of course
so yes, of course, you'll pick this horse
as a virgin for Mr. Ahmed.
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Dang, so that's why
April 24, 2008 - 20:08 ET by Cortillaen
Dang, so that's why Muhammad said women were mentally deficient... Probably explains why he hated them, too.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
..as long as you guys are into the religous bigotry thing - you really ought to hammer away at the Catholic ped priests or cheap Jews - obsessing about that is much more accurate than the so-called "Muslim terrorism" thing which doesn't even represent more than just a small fringe of the relgion - whereas pretty much all Jews really are cheap, and a ton of Priests do the ped thing...
Just a handy tip for now...
You know, NBers, with this
April 25, 2008 - 15:31 ET by ThisnThatYou know, NBers, with this partictular brand of hatred, it wouldn't bother me at all to see TM banned from the site. There ought to be at least a little value added by posters here.
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So, you excuse the violent
April 25, 2008 - 15:45 ET by Roger the ShrubberSo, you excuse the violent murders of thousands every year with a few bigotted examples of stereotypical religious behavior? How stupid is that?
Whoops. I answered my own question. We're not dealing with a mental giant here, folks. Sorry about that.
I find it hard to ban anybody who never seems to feel that "please kick my ass" sign taped to his backside. Of course, Tumbles, er, Truthie was already banned before, right?
t MONGER, That's a teenage apopogy...Soo Very Sorrieeee..
April 25, 2008 - 15:48 ET by upcountrywaterThat Ain't flying around here.
I was out yesterday afternoon and I see bigotboy and his henchies had
an Open Thread pile-on - with some unresolved questions - so here is
the belated update - tracheostomy style - see y'all Monday - until then
- maybe you guys could drag a Muslim or two behind your pickup trucks:)
Just maybe your 2 year 30 weak.... blathering will be ACCESS DENIED! so HOPEFULLY we wont see you on monday.
<gaia/love>SAVVVE The Whales N' Earth; conserve N' recycle !
IranianUranium<sleep>New/Infrastructure/repair?/ROFLMAO
unbelievable
April 25, 2008 - 15:29 ET by candancemaybe you guys could drag a Muslim or two behind your pickup trucks:)
This is personally offensive to me and my family. Criticising Islam means we drag people on the back of our car?
Can't NB do something about this?
Thanks for mentioning me, Jerkmonger
April 25, 2008 - 15:59 ET by Mica the MagnificentMy little ditty sung to the tune of Mr. Ed is funny and appropriate. Anyone who believes that killing yourself and innocent people will get you 72 virgins in heaven, deserves to be laughed at in my opinion.
I stand by it.
Grow up.
Wow, TM has given in to the
April 25, 2008 - 16:14 ET by Clear thinkerWow, TM has given in to the dark side. Can anyone here perform an exorcism?
"Abstain from McCain"
Oh Cry me a
April 25, 2008 - 16:15 ET by bigtimerOh Cry me a river!
....Such sad news...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT
April 25, 2008 - 17:31 ET by ThisnThat"first-ever mass firing of journalists in its [the NYT] 156-year history"!
Gotta love it.
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Hey TnT.... I know I
April 25, 2008 - 17:35 ET by bigtimerHey TnT....
I know I did....revenge is sweet in this case.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Don'tcha love the fact that
April 25, 2008 - 17:39 ET by ThisnThatDon'tcha love the fact that they might actually have to start working for a living, doing skillful things that actually have some value-added? And that if they don't do things correctly and accurately (as opposed to biased, mean, spiteful, and false) that their customer complaints will be taken seriously and their bosses will then fire them? A brand new world for them.
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TnT... Just the
April 25, 2008 - 17:46 ET by bigtimerTnT...
Just the facts....all we need...let us decide.
Btw...not classified information that harms us during the WOT just for your agenda...although I don't think that will change any...unfortunately.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Got that right. Would take
April 25, 2008 - 17:49 ET by ThisnThatGot that right. Would take more changes at the top of the NYT. But, if one thing can occur every 150 years or so....maybe there's hope that other changes can also occur.
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Don't get me wrong
April 25, 2008 - 17:55 ET by bigtimerDon't get me wrong TnT...I'm a hoping, not just there but others too eventually.
A snowball affect would be nice....
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Food on hand in case of crisis
April 25, 2008 - 16:34 ET by justmeOne of the things that has occured to me lately is that, though I do not live in an area likely to suffer a disaster, I ought to have food on hand in case of a crisis. This past two weeks, as an experiment, apart from bread and milk I have purchased no groceries. We had enough and to spare for probably two more weeks yet. (Only now I find myself having to go out and stock up again. So, I guess I'll be adding to the "shortage" here.) How many of you have food on hand for emergencies and how long would it last? I'm thinking I'd like to have more reserves on hand than I do, but I don't want to go overboard either.
Along with emergency
April 25, 2008 - 19:50 ET by dscottAlong with emergency supplies you should have a camp stove so you can cook that food (outside), in a natural disaster don't count on water, electricity or natural gas being available. People who are best prepared are those have camping experience, living in your home with no running water, no electricity and no natural gas is like camping in a palace, attitude is everything, experience makes the difference.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Ha! What an excellent
April 25, 2008 - 22:24 ET by justmeHa! What an excellent way to describe the situation! "like camping in a palace"
Since I love camping out in the mountains, that sounds very doable.
100% SECULAR 100% OF THE TIME
April 26, 2008 - 08:59 ET by reelman46GLARING EXAMPLE THAT LIBS ARE SECULAR
House holds sex ed hearing
Gravatar Written by Kiley Humphries, April 25, 2008
The federal government has spent about $1.3 billion on abstinence
education programs since 1996. A House of Representatives hearing
yesterday suggested it has been money wasted.
The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform called the
hearing to assess the facts concerning the federal Title V, Section 510
Abstinence Education Program, an 11-year effort to provide funding to
states for abstinence-only sexual education classes. These programs
must exclusively teach that abstinence is the best protection from STDs
and pregnancy and that “a mutually faithful monogamous relationship in
context of marriage is the expected standard of human sexual activity.”
On the other end of the spectrum, comprehensive sex ed programs inform
teens how they can protect themselves should they decide to engage in
sexual activity.
CRAWFISH NOTE: Know any other federal spending as
small as this that gets the microscope to justify itself? Try none. The
modern liberal is a secular socialist. Morals do not matter, character
does not count… its all secular all the time. Any moral boundaries are
to be ridiculed, undermined, distorted and destroyed. In a country
where 76% of black families are fornication-based, where the woman
accepts being used without any legal or religious contract and 28% of
non-blacks are doing the same we all see the lasting nitemare effects
on the culture in everything from school behavior to drug use.. yet
liberals (democrats) do not want a smidgen of common sense solutions
that may have moral overtones. Hideous, mean, sick and evil are the
words best to describe that attitude towards the marriage bond.
The #1 cultural problem and the national democrats think showing
pre-teens how to put condoms on cucumbers is superior to respecting
women and marriage. These people are sickos that must be defeated every
election. Our nation’s very foundation (the family) is at stake.
Destroy the family, destroy the nation. Any nation.
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
Sharpton's abortion comment
April 26, 2008 - 09:57 ET by sarcasmoThat Al's a wily one. I guess I should not be surprised that nobody here has commented on his take on the not guilty verdict involving abortion, but it has several humorously uncomfortable angles for both sides.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.