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For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: General Petraeus goes to Washington (picture courtesy AP):

Gen. David Petraeus planned to testify Tuesday on the war for the first time in seven months. He was expected to tell two Senate committees that last year's influx of 30,000 troops in Iraq had helped calm some of the sectarian violence but that to prevent a backslide in security, troops would likely be needed in large numbers through the end of the year.

How do you expect his testimony to go this time? How will he be treated by Democrats? How will media report the event?

Finally, congratulations to the Jayhawks. What an amazing game last night, wouldn't you agree?

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Awaiting pointless comment

Awaiting pointless comment from Leon in 3,2,...1.....

Fun pointless comment

  Has he set up Obama's new defense department, Ninja "Strike Force" Jedi Alpha One yet?

  Will they have the cool jets like in Team America World Police to zip them around to all the world's hot spots?

Hang, on. I think I

Hang, on. I think I just saw him get into the limo with Spottswoode. 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

A gold star for Hero's

A gold star for Hero's forehead for that great reference!

 

And a shiny silver one to

And a shiny silver one to Rog for spotting it.

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Thx for refraining telling

Thx for refraining telling me where to place it...

 :p

 

Re: Petraeus

Re: Petraeus testimony:

This will be nothing but a political circus. What should be a serious evaluation of the situation in Iraq is likely being viewed by the Dem candidates as a free campaign advertisement. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly retract my skepticism.

 

I am the exotic Queen Mum, and I approved this message.

Yayuh KU! Thanks for being

Yayuh KU! Thanks for being my first accurately predicted bracket champion ever (~7 years). :) That three was NUTS.

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

You are right

QueenMum.You've hit the nail on the head. Between the Dem jackasses and the left-wing media, this Patriot will be fried with a biased political agenda. The left doesn't want a fair discussion on ANYTHING--from Global Warming to the national security, the Democrat "liberals" are the enemy within. In the end, it's America which suffers from this freak show we call "represenative" government. 

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Mum, speaking of the global

Mum, speaking of the global warming,...a...a...ahem, climate change, the World Health Organization has established a link between climate change and psychiatric illnesses.

Well, that explains Al Gores mental state today. I think there is something to it. But I also think it only affects dems.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

The truth is out there ...

Expert: "We're brainwashing our children" about global warming

 http://blogs.usatoday.com/weather/2008/04/expert-were-bra.html

 

When you men get home and face an anti-war protestor, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she’s dating a pussy… ~ Attributed to General Tommy Franks

bassndude: I don't recall

bassndude: I don't recall speaking about gorebull warming in my commentary. But I'll bite. (Get it? I'll bite. Heh.)

I have to concede a grain of truth in the article you linked. I, for one, am much more mentally healthy when the weather takes a turn toward the 60's here in O-Hi-O. But that would mean that gorebull warming would be good for one's mental health. At least if one is mentally sound in the first place. You make a good point. The Gorical and Company prefer to curse the darkness. Lighting a candle would be bad for the ozone layer.

 

I am the exotic Queen Mum, and I approved this message.

Ahhh, but does climate

Ahhh, but does climate change cause psychiatric illness, or does psyhiatric illness cause climate change?

"What an amazing game last night, wouldn't you agree?"

That depends on what side of the 2 point spread you were on.

To me, Collins almost lost

To me, Collins almost lost that game for Kansas. He makes so many terrible decisions.

Free throw shooting killed Memphis.

"Free throw shooting killed

"Free throw shooting killed Memphis."

As I knew it would. It should have killed them against Miss. State in the second/third game, but they pulled that one out, luckily.

It was a good game though.

GREAT game. Free-wheeling

GREAT game. Free-wheeling action, athleticism, quick pace...loved it.

"To me, Collins almost lost

"To me, Collins almost lost that game for Kansas. He makes so many terrible decisions.

Free throw shooting killed Memphis."

 

I don't know Balboa, I think his 3 point make after the steal in the inbounds pass was more devestating than the free throws.  Without that steal and the make, I think Memphis can afford to miss free throws.  I think Collins has played great for Kansas this tournament.  He hit a huge 3 against Davidson, scored the last basket of the half against N. Carolina when N. Carolina was making a run, and played extremly well off the bench.

 

 

Questions from Ted Kennedy

General, if Ted Kennedy asks you a question, I would like to hear you say -

"Senator Kennedy, with all due respect, you are not qualified to ask me any question concerning moral or ethical concepts...Next question, please."

Kenedy talking down to Petrus.

Did anyone else notice Kenedy inform Petreus of the American casualties in Iraq? That smug, red faced bastard has no shame.

These democrats live in their own world.

I'm amazed at how completely uninformed these democrats are. Levin saying AQ in Iraq is no big deal, when its been clear for years that they are one of the major problems in Iraq. Ted Kenedy is rambling on like a madman and when its obvious Paterus is about to smack him down he changes the subject.

Its also interesting to hear levin and Kenedy belittle the Iraqi army and IPs latest engagement, because they did it without Petreus's ok, than turn around and claim the Iraqis arent standing up for themselvs. How can one be true without the other?

did these people bitch

did these people bitch about all those bases and US military in Europe for over half a century? it's time to marshall plan the mid-east - bases everywhere dammit...

Europe had a blast with all the US military $$$$$$$ flooding in didn't they - so would the Iraqi's then - instead of de-commissioning bases here and abroad let's transfer some "un-needed" bases into Egypt, Libya, Afghanistan, Lebananon and Palestine, etc etc while where at it...

over 700 around the world right now?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/sites.htm

Joe Lieberman Rocks!

From my colleagues I am seeing a  “Hear no progress in Iraq, see no progress in Iraq, speak of no progress in Iraq.”

Smackdown.

Stultus est sicut stultus facit

Joe could do a world of

Joe could do a world of good by changing parties -- right now.

___________________________________ 

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Old Sailor... LOL! I just

Old Sailor...

LOL! I just posted same quote on another thread here...Lieberman was the best of all I heard today...

Plus when he gave a stab to Levin about Levin saying the Iraqi's need to get their political progress in action ect...Lieberman said they are doing better with theirs than some of ours here...(paraphrasing)

I really like Lieberman a lot...he is his own man, that I respect.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Actually, BT

Levin was better because of the stupidity of it.  He called General Petraeus an Admiral.  I laughed so hard I peed a little. 

Stultus est sicut stultus facit

Old Sailor... ROFL! I

Old Sailor...

ROFL! I missed that...sure glad you filled me in so I could have a laugh too ...thanks.

I see where Ol' Obama is getting ready with his expertise soon....the msm all a twitter...Matthews probably getting ready for another thrill to run up his leg...heheee

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Yeah, I can't wait, BT

I get all a twitter thinking about it too, but it's in my lower gastro intestinal tract.  Not my nether regions.

Stultus est sicut stultus facit

OMG....I see Boxer getting

OMG....I see Boxer getting all ready for her outright I'll make a sound-bite questions too...no, usually a big blathering enemy within statement then a fast question or two...oh I despise that woman...now she is one who makes my skin crawl.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Testimony on War effort...

If you heard the Dumbocratic questioners, there was not a "battle of wits" but a "skirmish of 1/2 wits".

IRAN

Iran continues it's quest for a nuke. Continue to hide your eyes, "liberals". Bring us down the path to destruction Barry and Hill. The Iranian madmen are laughing at us the same way Hitler laughed at Neville Chanmberlain. The Dems and the media shoud be behind bars. God save our children.

 

"Our army must undoubtedly feel fatigue, and want reinforcement of rest, though not of valor. Our own interest and happiness call upon us to give them every support in our power..." Thomas Paine, circa 1776.

What has happened to us ? Oh yeah, "liberalism".

 

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

i'veseenitall

I thought this was a nation that represents freedom, why should they be behind bars?

shawn, well for starters

shawn, well for starters there is treason. Failure to uphold their oath of office, failure to "protect and defend". Behind bars is the least they should get.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

The media have Liberal

The media have Liberal leaning tendancies, but I would hardly call in treason. I also don't see how  liberal politicians fail to uphold their oath to office more than a republican does.

Shawn

Your are free to do and say whatever you want to do and say. But you must be willing to take responsibility for it.  I think they told Benedict Arnold that same thing. BTW, read The Constitution, the entire piece, more carefully next time.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

i'veseenitall

Then give me examples of what you mean, instead of just giving a blanket statement.

Barack will work all this

Barack will work all this out at the slumber party.  Mahmoud and him will be up all night working on world peace.  Maybe Maddy Albright can come and bring all the experience she gained talking to Kim about the PRNK's nuclear plans. 

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

If the phone rings at 3

If the phone rings at 3 a.m., who gets to answer it? 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

So, how long until Skynet

So, how long until Skynet becomes self-aware?

 

Can we get these

for most of congress??? Or did we beat them to it already???

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

The possibilites seem

The possibilites seem endless, does it not?

 

Hey, Rog...think they can

Hey, Rog...think they can replace Katie and the rest of CBS and CNN with these? Would save a ton of money for em. All they need is someone to type into the program screen what to say, then put it in an endless loop.
 

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Same welfare incentives = same welfare results.

Which start with less stigma for accepting even more welfare. "Corporate" is irrelevant, the point is that it's welfare and this is a natural result of creeping socialism. Sigh.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

The general should

point out that the Iraqis are doing something already, they do need just a little time for their self esteem is rebuilt.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

gotta get this posted

gotta get this posted today before rog the bigot spews his usual trash:)

And now for today’s Jesus-inspired Anti-defamation re-re-re-report…Partner with Islam…

http://progressivemuslims.org/

http://www.irw.org/

http://www.islamic-relief.com/

http://www.islamic-charity.com/

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/

http://www.mdda.org.uk/web/index.php

http://www.muslimheritage.com/Default.aspx

Serious question here truthmonger

When you went to you anger management classes did they prescribe you any prescriptions. You seem like you are on meds. You are a completely different person that the one I remember not even a year ago.

Or do you enjoy watching the reactions of others when you keep digging up this dead horse?

when bigotry is dead I'll

when bigotry is dead I'll certainly move on:)

When bigotry is dead, so

When bigotry is dead, so will Islam be.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

I'm serious truthmonger

You have turned from one of the most respected posters on this site, to one of the most embarrassing.

I just don't understand the change. It all started after your anger management classes.

Or you could be playing a joke and you can say gotcha, but this is way too long for this joke to continue.

You know I try to be respectful to other members, TM but I feel you are doing this partner with Islam thing just to get attention and it is sad, especially for man that has Jesus as his Avatar.

 

it's nothing more than

it's nothing more than advanced Christian practice - love your enemy, turn the other cheek - it's a lonely business - read the Bible and weep...

and i am just a lowly sinner

never deserved much respect in the first place:)

I know, I know, beating

I know, I know, beating down the mentally-challenged is in bad taste, but I cannot resist the urge to share the love that Islam  has for other religions.

Islam hearts Hinduism!

Islam hearts Christianity! They really do!

And, finally, Islam really really REALLY hearts little boys!

Enjoy, Douchemonger!

 

yawn have a point rog:)?

yawn

have a point rog:)?

Islam is a violent religion

Islam is a violent religion and seems to only be getting worse. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

when you only focus on the

when you only focus on the less then 1% "violent Muslims" of the world's 1.4 billion it certainly does:)

Not all Muslims are

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim.

But past that, these people do great evil to each other. How many women of the Muslim "faith" are subjected to honor killings? How many women are beaten by their husbands regularly? Islam is a barbaric 7th century religion that routinely commits acts that are totally unacceptable in polite society.

If you are Muslim, fine. But don't piss on our shoes and tell us it raining. Islam is a violent religion.

Gary and TM


when you only focus on the less then 1% "violent Muslims" of the world's 1.4 billion it certainly does:)

Truth, from your clear difficulty with math, you've gone and made our case.

Yes, understandably we are focusing on the "less than 14 million" (or whatever "less than" means... okay, you want to say 10? 12 million?) "violent Muslims" acting out violently in the world.

So obviously, looking at that frightening number -- YES, Islam is a violent religion.

Any religion with roughly 14 million violent Muslims worldwide should be labeled a violent religion. That's a lot of violent relgious ferver.

 

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terrorists cannot be Muslim

terrorists cannot be Muslim - based on the teachings it is mutually exclusive 

but for the sake of argument let's call these 10 or 12 million psychos "Muslims"

so then let's partner with the 99% peaceful Muslims who renounce terror:)

thanks for making my case:)

Truth

I'm all for partnering with any/all people who renounce psychotic terror, of course.

But your indirect claim here that the entire, other 99% are renouncing this terror is just that -- your (wishful) claim. Some? I'm sure. 10? 20? 40? 60 percent?? Maybe. Neither of us knows, Truth. As sure as you seem to be that they all renounce it, I'll make a stronger argument that a sizable chunk are indifferent and/or even sympathetic to "the cause" of these radical Muslims.

But you and I know that the entire remaining Muslim populace by no means fully renounces this disgusting, horrific behavior. That's a big problem right there, added to the 14 million already fully brainwashed and under orders to kill.

 

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as you say - how the hell

as you say - how the hell do you know? Sounds like your "wishful" thinking against mine

so until we know everyone's soul completely you just keep on promoting your wishful negatives about them

and then they'll do the same about us

and that will help all of us immensely

while your at it why don't you also insist all Joos are cheap, all Injuns are drunks, all blacks are criminals, and all whites are racist - great stuff ya know 

thank-you so very much

Under this line of thinking

Under this line of thinking it would likewise follow that since we cannot see into the soul of idnvidual German SS members during WWII, then we cannot assume that SS soldiers were unusually racist towards Jews.

Do you assert that as well?

I suppose

i've personally spoken to a few WW2 German regulars living locally that have corroborated along those lines - that's essentially why they can live here as ex-Nazi soldiers

the SS were more Nazi-fanatical in general, however

 

Please do not try to

Please do not try to sidestep the question.

Can we ASSUME that SS Soldiers were racist against Jewish people or not?

tm...really? Islam is NOT good

All non-believers are considered infidels. I am pretty certain that the Quran instructs muslims to kill the infidels.

LINK

LINK

LINK

ISLAM ALLOWS PEDOPHILIA

MUSLIMS CANNOT BE FRIENDS WITH CHRISTIANS AND JEWS (Sura 5:51:)

QURAN and WOMAN

 

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

"pretty certain" wow -

"pretty certain"

wow - that's all I need to know then:)

TM ... are you serious?

Are you serious? ... It is called understatement...the opposite of hyperbole.

Did you read any of the links or do you continue to live in denial and deceit?

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

i read most of those or

i read most of those or something virtually identical a few years ago

also answered one of them two hours prior to you down below in response to someone else:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2008/04/08/open-thread#comment-586251

so maybe try reading my links, why dontcha?

better yet actually talk to some Muslims, maybe even travel abroad to where they live and visit - like I have

instead of living in your denial

trollmonger...do muslims ignore their holy book?

So, either they are lying to you or they ignore their own holy book. Which is it?

MUSLIMS CANNOT BE FRIENDS WITH CHRISTIANS AND JEWS (Sura 5:51:) [ What about this? ]

I noticed you did not respond to the way they treat women...I guess you find that acceptable with your new pals.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

truthie...what's the matter?...no answer to the TRUTH?

Can't or won't answer, Truthie???

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

Truth, I don't hear 9

Truth, I don't hear 9 percent of Muslims renouncing terrorism, let alone 99 percent!

When those 99 percent start loudly denouncing all forms of Muslim savagery, then it will mean something. Currently 0 percent of Muslims are out there denouncing barbarity committed daily in the name of the religion of peace. And that includes acts of the most extreme kind of violence these people do to each other daily.

It's not just depraved acts of terrorism Muslims commit daily in the name of Allah, these people destroy each other for doing things most humans do as second nature. Read yesterday that these barbarians are being told by their religious leaders that it is against religious teachings to take out health insurance. How unbelievably stupid is that?

These people want to live like they did 1400 years ago, which on the surfaces doesn't matter. But since they want to forcibly demand the rest of the world follow this nutbag religion, they are indeed a problem. In it's current form, Islam is a serious world problem, one that must be ended, by any means possible, peaceful, or otherwise.

Truth, Amanpour, et al

Provide us with one -- ONE -- link to a story of some Muslim community-organized demonstration, rally, whatever, that was some "show of force" gathering denouncing terrorism and the acts of these people who have perverted their religion. One.

And if you do somehow find one (and I mean, a legitimate one) after tedious searching, that will prove my point.

Of course, you'll find hundreds of pro-Islam and anti-cartoon/defamation rallies, no problem.

 

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you can find off my links

you can find plenty off my links posted above

get off your ass and educate yourself, I'm not here to spoon feed

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/03/massive-muslim-protest-in-bahrain.html

i had to google "muslim rally against terror"

it was alot of work

tm...you missed

That had nothing to do with 9/11 and is merely a self-serving protest in Baharain.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

ah yes

as expected, the incredible, agile, mobile goal post - i will get you someday you wascally wabbit:)

but not yet, not yet

Pathetic

Actually, Douchie, that protest was against Muslim-on-Muslim violence, if you read the comments below the article.

Once again, you fail to deliver.

JHC - I am so sick of you

JHC - I am so sick of you whining babies

do i have to wipe your a$$ for you, too?

here you go then, you lazy frackin bigot bast3rd:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/11/massive-muslim-demonstration-against.html

so go ahead, now

tell us all what's wrong with that one - was it on the wrong day of the week? wind blowing in the wrong GD direction? some of the spelling on the signs missing puncuation...?

Wow.

This must be the Islamic side of Douchmonger we are witnessing here: angry, violent, and stupid.

Posting the same link over and over, without bothering to read what people said about the story on thie website AND on the actual link shows all of us just how unhinged you are.

Take your meds, Islamic Douche Boy.

 

the old adage is "you can't

the old adage is "you can't hear if you don't listen:)"

listen to a lot of Muslim media do you?

Partner with.....

What case? Muslims have

What case? 

Muslims have a term:  "Jihadi".  They think it means "Holy Warrior" .   We think it means "terrorist".

10 or 12 million?  In a pig's eye.  There are more AQ supporters in Pakistan alone than that.  the entire Pashtun region of that country is of limits to serious enforcement by government troops and that is more than 25 million people.  Pakistan as a whole has more than 160 millions.  AQ enjoys significant popularity in that population.

Truthie, get yourself a Rectocraniotomy, wipe the stuff out of your eyes and look around.  It is highly unlikely that the Islamofascists and their sympathizers number less than 100 million worlwide and its darn likely their numbers approach or exceed 200 million. 

Islam is a barbaric 7th


Islam is a barbaric 7th century religion that routinely commits acts that are totally unacceptable in polite society.

Precisely. Thank you Gary. That there are people in this world who are, I'm sure, peace-loving to their neighbors and people around them, and who coexist with us in the modern world, it's absolutely unfathomable how they run to defend -- or make some equivelancy arguement for -- the grotesque acts by people acting exclusively on their total devotion to Islam, that have been perpetrated again and again over the past few decades.

From countless suicide bombings across the globe, from small villages to big cities, beheadings and hangings put on video, the overt degradation of women, massive suicide bombing raids of large buildings and vacation resort hotels, and of course the most heiness, horrifying act of the post-industrial age, 9/11.

All of it, utterly barbaric. It makes me ill and it's absolutely unacceptable in the 21st century, or even the 20th century.

 

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1.4 Billion Muslims

1.4 Billion Muslims defending terrorism?

this is some astounding ignorance on parade bro

So tell us, oh font of

So tell us, oh font of wisdom, just how many Muslims DO defend the Islamofascists?  It sure as hell isn't zero.  Based on just the number of  Wahhabists and their supporters within the Muslim world, this number must be in the many, many millions. This count doesn't even reckon with the Twelvers or any other Shia radicals.

all terrorists are not

all terrorists are not Muslim:)

in fact none of them are true Muslims:)

So I guess you are not

So I guess you are not Christian?  Not a true Christian at least?

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

LOL!

He's not absolutely sure of that Dan, so don't even go there.  =)

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07

true

Hold up TM. . .

If I were injured, would I allow a Muslim doctor to treat me? 

Yes.

If a Muslim fell over unconscious at a mall, would I withhold administering CPR?

No. 

If I were a soldier, would I purposefully shoot an unarmed Muslim noncombatant? 
No.

If a Muslim asked me for my last cookie, would I give it to him?

Depends on the cookie. 

But not the Muslim. 

Get it?

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07

Isn't pride one of the

Isn't pride one of the Seven Deadly Sins? Your bragging was not very Christian.

Here is some help for you, Douchie.