Two prominent conservatives on Sunday suggested that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice might end up being John McCain's choice as his Vice Presidential running mate (picture courtesy ABC News).
Appearing on ABC's "This Week," GOP strategist Dan Senor said, "Condi Rice has been actively, actually in recent weeks, campaigning for this."
Moments later, George Will said (video available here, liberal website warning):
In fact, I guess I'm not talking out of school when I say in our green room last week when Senator Lieberman was on he said, well, perhaps Condi and of course Lieberman is very close.
What say you, NewsBusters? Do you like this choice, or have you other preferences?
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Condi! Where are you when we need you?
April 6, 2008 - 19:48 ET by Free StinkerWE'RE SAVED!
I just posted about this on the General Open Thread ;-)
So what is it about Condi
April 6, 2008 - 20:33 ET by balboaSo what is it about Condi that would make her such a great VP?
Bal, I'm glad you asked
April 6, 2008 - 20:59 ET by Free StinkerI like her experience.
IMHO, she has more experience at governing, than the three Senators running for President.
Free, And how exactly did
April 7, 2008 - 08:51 ET by LeonFree,
And how exactly did any of those credentials help her to accomplish nothing in the past 8 years?
She has been entirely ineffective and useless.
→ Good one Leon
April 7, 2008 - 09:13 ET by Cool ArrowAnd your side has Barack (redacted) Obama who trots out the thought of his daughters engaging in unprotected sex (that's how you get babies, isn't it).
Hmmm doesn't unprotected sex also expose them to AIDS? Evidently Barack (redacted) Obama is hinting that the White man is trying to infect his very young children with a deadly disease. His children's preacher is teaching them exactly that.
Class act you got on your side of the aisle, Leon
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Cool, I fail to see what
April 7, 2008 - 09:16 ET by LeonCool,
I fail to see what Obama has to do with the fact that Condi has accomplished very little, if anything at all during the past 8 years.
→ Well, Leon
April 7, 2008 - 09:22 ET by Cool ArrowI got my jab in didn't I?
Just playing your game.
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Cool, Mine wasn't a
April 7, 2008 - 09:25 ET by LeonCool,
Mine wasn't a jab.
It's a legitimate question.
Point to her credentials all you want. They didn't help her to be successful over the past 8 years, so why would we think they would help be sucessful over the next 4?
The lack of any siginificant accomplishment over nearly a decade render any of her past credentials null and void.
→ So what Leon
April 7, 2008 - 09:33 ET by Cool ArrowLast week you alluded to a 31yr old woman who claims the Government was responsible for her getting pregnant at 17. What the heck else can she tell her daughters to keep them from doing the same?
Then you tried to prove Florida had an abstinance only education policy by linking to a blog.
My question then, as now is, If blogs are gospel, why do you argue in a blog?
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In addition to the
April 7, 2008 - 05:08 ET by marvlIn addition to the credentials already mentioned, how about these:
Give me a minute and I'm sure I could come up with a few dozen more. And sorry for the direct comparisons with Democratic presidential candidates, I could think of no one else suitable for a comparison.
"She's not ugly as sin
April 7, 2008 - 08:51 ET by Leon"She's not ugly as sin "
Um, are we looking at the same person?
Cheap shot Leon.
April 7, 2008 - 09:00 ET by Ruths husband BenBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I think that Condi is a strikingly beautiful woman. She's not your cookie cutter movie star look, for sure, but how many of them are really beautiful? How man of them became beautiful through the surgeon's skill?
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
RHB, Strikingly
April 7, 2008 - 09:10 ET by LeonRHB,
Strikingly beautiful?
Excuse me for a second, I vomited in my mouth a bit.
Furthermore, why was my response to marvl's comment a cheap shot yet his original backhanded comment was not?
Try Listerine. I didn't
April 7, 2008 - 09:13 ET by Ruths husband BenTry Listerine. I didn't read marl's comment, jumped to yours from the front page. Still haven't. I will go back and read it and see.
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
Ha RHB, Doesn't that
April 7, 2008 - 09:17 ET by LeonHa RHB,
Doesn't that cause cancer in lab rats or something?
I see right through your thinly veiled advice. I see what you're tyring to do to LEON :).
Yes, I was merely replying to marvl's original cheap shot with a cheap shot of like kind and quality.
Wouldn't that be a
April 7, 2008 - 09:28 ET by Ruths husband BenWouldn't that be a miserable job? (Being the tech who has to make all those lab rats gargle every morning with Listerine? ) How do you train them to do that anyway?
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
HAHA RHB, That's
April 7, 2008 - 09:32 ET by LeonHAHA RHB,
That's hilarious!
I'll bet that line works great for single guys out at the bar.
"What do you do?"
"Oh I manually administer Listerene to Rats"
That's a home run line if I've ever seen one.
But it apparently works
April 7, 2008 - 09:38 ET by Ruths husband BenBut it apparently works great for the lab rats, they seem to get "lucky" a lot (considering there are so many of them).
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
→ Lab Rats
April 7, 2008 - 09:41 ET by Cool ArrowIt's better than being the tech who has to teach the rats to engage in unnatural acts.
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Okay, mission accomplished.
April 7, 2008 - 09:24 ET by Ruths husband BenOkay, mission accomplished. I read marl's comments and can understand how it would upset someone who loves Hillary. Although I wouldn't say that Hillary was strikingly beautiful....er excuse me while I go rinse my mouth out with Listerine....okay, I'm back....I still don't like attacks against a person's looks which really don't have any basis on their ability to govern. (But I would support a Constitutional amendment prohibiting the POTUS from wearing pantsuits (for women), or leisuresuits (for men).)
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
RHB, Just for the record,
April 7, 2008 - 09:27 ET by LeonRHB,
Just for the record, I'm extremely anti-Hillary.
The comment was offensive to me not b/c of the target, but b/c anytime the left takes a cheap shot like that, there is a resounding WHINE around here.
Yet, many of the posters here make these kinds of comments on the regular. You can dish it out but ya can't take it back. Bad way to be.
I agree, there is plenty of
April 7, 2008 - 09:34 ET by Ruths husband BenI agree, there is plenty of real ugly things to say about the Clinton's without insulting their looks.
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
→ RHB
April 7, 2008 - 09:39 ET by Cool ArrowObama was referring to "white folks" on his staff.
Rev. Wright is another matter entirely.
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Noted and
April 7, 2008 - 09:43 ET by Ruths husband BenNoted and amended.
“There’s nobody (who's white) on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
→ Thanks, RHB
April 7, 2008 - 09:53 ET by Cool ArrowIt's important that we understand what he really means rather than think he's lying.
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LOL! Condi Get Leon A-N-G-R-Y
April 7, 2008 - 20:10 ET by Free StinkerAnother good thing about Condi . . .
She pisses off Leon.
Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!
Well Free, that's because
April 7, 2008 - 20:17 ET by BlazerWell Free, that's because she represent's two pillar's of victim status to him, African American and a woman, but her being a strong, intelligent, independant Republican, who happen's to be a woman negates that, because she's not in the project's popping out babies, cashing welfare check's and voting Democrat.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
If McCain puts her on the
April 7, 2008 - 20:18 ET by Free StinkerIf McCain puts her on the ticket I would actually vote for him, just to get her in so when he has to be impeached for his infamous temper (no, I'm not kidding) she will be ready to take the helm.
Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!
I dont' think you'll have
April 7, 2008 - 20:27 ET by BlazerI dont' think you'll have to worry about McCain's temper Free. Unless the GOP takes both houses back, McCain's not likely to have anyone to fight with, since he usually saves his rage for fellow Republican's .
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Condi? Are You Insane?
April 6, 2008 - 23:39 ET by zeestephenGeraldine Ferraro: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position."
If Condi was white, she would have never been NSC Director or Secretary of State.
Her national security distinctions are zero - unless spending eight years trying to convince Israel to commit suicide is a distinction.
Her Conservative credentials are zero.
"Her national security
April 7, 2008 - 00:00 ET by RESTLESS 1"Her national security distinctions are zero - unless spending eight
years trying to convince Israel to commit suicide is a distinction."
Not sure what you mean here. She supported Israeli airstrikes against Hezbollah. Was even against calls for a cease-fire. See reply below to Bigtimer for the link and quote.
If there is something I'm not aware of, please dial me in.
Restless
April 7, 2008 - 01:29 ET by zeestephenRestless says: "She supported Israeli airstrikes against Hezbollah. Was even against calls for a cease-fire."
For Republicans, those aren't distinctions, those are autonomic reflexes, like breathing.
Within the last month Condi vigorously supported the Annapolis Conference, where the Saudi delegation, with Condi's consent, refused to walk through the same door the Israelis walked through.
Within the last month Condi has called Abbas a moderate.
Within the last month, as Gaza rockets rain down on Israel, Condi has urged Europe and the US Senate to rain tax dollars on Palestine.
No.
April 7, 2008 - 02:10 ET by usinkoreaI don't know about her Israel policy or others, but unlike up until a year ago or so, I would be against her being a VP candidate -- primarily for her work in the State Department in relation to North Korea.
What the other commenter said about bowing down to the Saudis is similar to what she has continued at the State Department in relation to Kim Jong Il's kingdom. When she moved over to State, I had high hopes the "cross your fingers and hope for the best" mentality tippified by recent North Korea policy would die a deserved death --- instead --- she has implemented the Bush administration's flipflop on North Korea policy back to the failed direction of President Clinton --- and the flipflop came at the very moment economic and other sanctions and a refusal to cave into typical North Korean pressure were showing signs of success.
Given how horrific the North Korean regime has long been, the State Department under her guidance sticking to the failed and woeful Agreed Framework has shatter the confidence I had in her on foreign policy.
USIK
April 8, 2008 - 00:39 ET by RESTLESS 1I seems to me that the othere nations in the six nation meeting had something to do with that. I remember many people saying the it was China's, Russia's, and South Korea's problem, and we shouldn't get involved. If I remember right, and I'll admit, I may not, it was these nations that wanted to give talks a chance.
Denuclearization seems to be progressing, albeit, slowly, but progress is being made. Dim sum Il may be wating for a better deal should the dems take the WH.
"A State Department official says that seven or eight of the 11 envisioned steps to disablement have been taken.
The more serious delay—on the declaration—has renewed a debate among
policymakers and in U.S. intelligence circles about whether Kim Jong Il
has not yet made "a strategic choice" to abandon nuclear weapons in
return for economic and political benefits. Some fear that he is now
playing for time, trying to outwait a lame-duck administration for one
that might be willing to improve the terms of the deal."
I'll admit, the thing I like most about her on the ticket is the thought of all of those liberal heads exploding, but she has not shaken my confidence in her for the job as yet. More research will be done though.
Terrible Idea
April 6, 2008 - 19:50 ET by jiminjerseyNothing against Ms. Rice. She is a brilliant, capable woman who would make a great V.P.. But...
Rice would be a terrible choice for VP. Nothing good could come of it. What vote would this help him capture? Blacks? Nope! Independants? Nope! Conservatives? Nope!
The link to Bush would be guaranteed. I can see the commercials running now pushing this as a third Bush term. More of the same old, same old. This would push the Independants directly to Mr. Hope and Change. Considering the capturing the independant vote is his strategy I can't see how this is a remote possibility.
Who is advising McCain and floating these god awful ideas?
jij... I agree with all
April 6, 2008 - 20:04 ET by bigtimerjij...
I agree with all of your assessment in your post...all of it.
As I just posted in OT I will believe this when I hear it from her lips, after all the denial she has done about wanting this position, which I know coming from a politician means little, unless she is getting pressure...but I sure hope it isn't Condi myself...like you said what is the gain here?
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Unless something is
April 6, 2008 - 20:06 ET by GregEUnless something is revealed that makes me think differently about this development, I agree with you, it wouldn't be a good move. As you said, tied too close to Bush and independents would move to the I-have-done-nothing-yet-can-do-no-wrong-either candidate who's mother's race is somehow irrelevant in his...but I digress.
Also, bringing on Condi does nothing to get the race-based, so-called "black vote" (as if black people vote as a bloc and can't think for themselves, as liberals do assume to be true). Liberals - black or white or purple - will just see "Bush" when they view her.
And with a liberal minority on the Democratic ticket as President, forget bringing any votes to the Republican side by nominating a minority as VP. Doing it for that reason is naive.
This skin color crap is nonsense anyway. People want to sing the praises of Martin Luther King, yet in the next breath stand in awe of skin color and the first "viable 'black' candidate," - again, who must have been given birth by his father, or was birthed by a black woman instead of the mother we've all seen in photos...
...oh, but again I digress...
VP Choice
April 6, 2008 - 21:36 ET by Chaitealover"I can see the commercials running now pushing this as a third Bush term."
Obama is already using the "third Bush term" in regards to McCain, I believe the piece I saw this morning was from his speech in Montana yesterday.
McCain needs an economist as VP, I'd suggest Thomas Sowell but he's probably almost as old as McCain.
Is Dan Senor really pushing for her or is he just using her name as a cover for the people really under consideration? If pundits start talking about one prominent possibility, they don't give any thought to who other possibilities might be, do they? Then the nominee can give some thought to his actual short list somewhat undisturbed.
Chai
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you…of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you. Nikita Khrushchev
"What vote would this help
April 6, 2008 - 23:10 ET by Jerry"What vote would this help him capture?"
How about the one block he is having the most trouble capturing? The CONSERVATIVE vote.
Also, disenfranchised Obama voters if Hillary gets the nod or disenfranchised Hillary voters should Obama get the nod.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
They are already doing it
April 7, 2008 - 00:54 ET by tdavisjrWhere have you been in the last month or so. They are already painting McCain as running for the 3rd Bush Term. So, that talking point will not go away Condi or no Condi.
"The link to Bush would be guaranteed."
April 7, 2008 - 05:13 ET by Del DolemonteIn the only recent poll, her job approval is almost 50%, much higher than Bush's. It's remained remarkably constant since 2005, within 5%.
She has my vote.
April 6, 2008 - 20:04 ET by ghost of Mary Jo KopechneShe has my vote.
Support Our Troops. God bless the military.
http://adoptaplatoon.org/new/index.htm
My vote, too
April 6, 2008 - 22:20 ET by CarlosSNot only my vote, I'll even donate to their campaign!
Secretary Rice would make
April 6, 2008 - 20:26 ET by spiderdanSecretary Rice would make an outstanding Vice-President.
On a somewhat dubious note, her addition to the ticket will further expose the depths of liberal prejudice and dishonesty -- traits many of us have illuminated for years. I embrace Secretary Rice in so many ways, but fully anticipate a full court press of racism, sexism, and sheer left wing lunacy to accompany that development.
Some -- myself among those -- believe a McCain/Rice ticket would be a fabulous thing, given the current political climate. I also believe we will endure poison and vitriol from the left we haven't seen -- if that's possible. I hope she gets the nod, and the left melts down like the fringe lunatics they are.
Why are so many of you trying to throw the Bush administration to the wolves? There have been policy shortcomings, but nothing of the failures we've endured ala Carter/Clinton. Sometimes, you've got to ignore the rabid dogs on the left and recognize the outstanding things accomplished during the Bush administration. Condoleeza Rice is one of those magnificent accomplishments. Just as we endured trips and stumbles during the Reagan years, we've endured trips and stumbles during the Bush years. I give President Bush credit for being strong where others would have collapsed in a sobbing heap.
The left doesn't influence my thinking. Nor should those idiots influence yours.
Spidey
April 6, 2008 - 22:55 ET by RESTLESS 1Well put, and I agree. So what if she is tied to the Bush administration? Why should we be ashamed of that? Too many are posting here and sounding like the whiny Repubs of the past that have been skewered here for capitulating to the dems.
If Condi were to be the veep pick, she would become much more prominent on the national stage, and during debates with the dem veep candidate, would make herself known to the ignorant masses. If they could hear her speak, it would be "Obama who?".
Could also set her up for a Presidential run. Now, THAT would be fun.
I can just imagine all of
April 6, 2008 - 23:15 ET by JerryI can just imagine all of the disgraceful caricatures of Ms. Rice that will be drawn by our open minded, tolerant, liberal, racists in hiding, editorial cartoonists.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
If only her middle name was
April 6, 2008 - 20:21 ET by balboaIf only her middle name was "Ahmadinejad."
That got me to smile and think
April 6, 2008 - 21:02 ET by FastEdwho would go crazy if it were a color?? or Wilde?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
I think this would be a
April 6, 2008 - 20:24 ET by BlazerI think this would be a bad move on behalf of McCain's campaign, despite the fact that Condi is not the most charismatic individual going, unfortunately she's too connected to Bush and this late in the game this will go over as identity politic's as far as the left's concerned.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Mark Penn zilched
April 6, 2008 - 20:25 ET by bigtimerSince this is a political OT (I hope) I just saw this and thought I would throw it in here...Mark Penn is finally gone from Hill's campaign...I wonder just how much is true about this reason today for letting him go with the Columbia free trade agreement...or a some of the other previous stuff...this is one guy who should write a book someday...it would be so interesting.
btw...anybody want to bet this Free trade deal with Hill was when she was for it, before she was against it type thing...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
bt, that depends on which audience Hillary was in front of.
April 6, 2008 - 20:37 ET by R D HelmAnd like you, I think this is just being used as an excuse to get rid of the guy.
After all, the Hidebeast wasn't supposed to have to get out there and "hoof it" for the nomination in the first place.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Glad you brought this up
April 6, 2008 - 21:49 ET by doug1950I saw it too and first thought I had was he will be the scapegoat for when she loses the nomination. It will be all his fault, bad advise,etc. The Clintons never take any responsibilty for any failures (Waco, Somolia). I think they can finally see the handwriting on the wall and need to have a convenient excuse and someone to blame. I agree with someone's view on Penn writing a book though. Can you imagine what kind of blue snit tirades he has seen over the past year or so. I hear Hillary can cuss like a Longshoreman.
Yep doug... The Clintoon
April 6, 2008 - 21:59 ET by bigtimerYep doug...
The Clintoon machine has been blaming Penn publicly via television since the word cocaine was used about Obama...the book would be a best-seller, there has to be years and years worth of stuff he could write, he has been affiliated with them for quite awhile...lol.
It would be priceless....in more ways than one...he'd better be watching his own step and follow that shadow closely...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
A strong VP,
April 6, 2008 - 20:37 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltSuch as Condi is about the only way I can see myself voting for McCain. He could do more damage to the country and the conservative movement in four years than Hill or Obama could. If we focus on Congress in '08, we can stunt the ill-effects of McCain's anti-conservative shenanigans. Back to Condi...I think she has got a well-deserved good reputation, she's steady, she's got good judgement...and NO ONE can claim that SHE'S an idiot. I like her.
WIJG... I don't dislike
April 6, 2008 - 20:48 ET by bigtimerWIJG...
I don't dislike her one bit, I have seen posters here over time want her for Prez....my problem is what would she bring for uuuumph to the conservatives here who do not like McCain, I can't think of anything special that would make me cross the line and vote for him....
Just my two cents and your opinion of what I may be missing here with her...another thought here, why in the world would she suddenly have the want to be VP when she has steadfastly said she has NO desire for this position?
I have to wonder if this isn't a trial balloon being put out here...
I know one thing I will never forget, the disgraceful, despicable regard the msm treated her with, cartoons and all.
I don't know how she feels about a lot of issues, including abortion, illegal immigration, judges ect...
Just throwing my thoughts your way to learn something here if you know the answers.
thanks....
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
The point is well taken
April 6, 2008 - 21:10 ET by FastEdespecially with her stating that she doesn't want the post - BUT, the woman/race card would be moot, unless the left would comment negatively(?).
The issues is another point - what are her positions?
But, not voting, for anyone? Can't think of this country getting better with anyone running with a (D), and getting elected. True, John ain't the best choice, and one has to beleve that this year, the phrase, "Least objectionable" is more true then ever before.
Let's wait for the choice to be made, before we spout - we's gots time to do that yet.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Evenin' Fast... I have
April 6, 2008 - 21:24 ET by bigtimerEvenin' Fast...
I have never said I wasn't voting...I am going to vote. Who I vote for will depend...I have said and did forget to today, that it depends on who McCain picks as VP...so far she doesn't do it for me....just stating my opinion here, plus if memory serves me she studied under Not-so Bright's dad for international relations or some such...
I still don't know what she has accomplished exactly in foreign affairs, not, I repeat, not saying she hasn't accomplished anything, I just don't know what it is...plus like I said I do not know one bit where she stands on issues here within the US...I do know one thing, that woman put Boxer to shame during one of the 9-11 hearings I think it was and I loved her for it...she was magnificent! Which I posted here somewhere at the time too...lol.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Bt
April 6, 2008 - 23:57 ET by RESTLESS 1Here's some info on Rice. Make of it what you will. I see good points and some iffy ones. A few quotes:
"With the outbreak
of hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah in July 2006, however, Rice
has revealed the persistence of the neoconservative mentality within
the administration. Echoing Richard Perle's
view that the Israeli strikes are "an entirely appropriate response to
the existential struggle in which Israel is now engaged" (New York Times,
July 22, 2006), Rice rejected calls for an early ceasefire, arguing
that it "would be a false promise if it simply returns us to the status
quo." As for the destruction wrought by the Israeli strikes, Rice
commented that these were the "birth pangs of a new Middle East" (cited
in "Rice's Fantasy Ride," TomPaine.com, July 24, 2006)."
And:
"Despite her
association with the neoconservative agenda during Bush's first term,
one would be hard-pressed to define Rice as a neoconservative. Still,
her background reveals at least one similarity to that political
faction-she moved from the left to the right. Regarding her decision to
leave the Democratic Party for the Republicans, Rice said: "I found a
party that sees me as an individual, not as part of a group . In
America, with education and hard work, it really does not matter where
you come from-it matters where you are going." And since joining the
administration, Rice's rhetoric has often taken on a distinctly
neocon-ish flavor, such as her February 2003 remark: "Power matters.
But there can be no absence of moral content in American foreign
policy, and furthermore, the American people wouldn't accept such an
absence. Europeans giggle at this and say we're naive and so on, but
we're not Europeans, we're Americans-and we have different principles"
("Rice in Her Own Words," BBC, November 17, 2004)."
I love the lines in bold. :)
Restless... I just caught
April 7, 2008 - 00:02 ET by bigtimerRestless...
I just caught this in the nick of time...thanks, this is saved and I will getting more into it later...
I have got to get for the night and most of day tomorrow, so I am so glad I got this from you...
Later...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Good night BT.
April 7, 2008 - 00:11 ET by RESTLESS 1Good night BT.
Incredibly great
April 7, 2008 - 00:38 ET by Gary P JacksonIncredibly great quotes.
There's more to her than that, but by God, if one was to wake up from a coma, and read this, they would conclude Condi was the only statesman in the bunch. (Hillary, Barry, and McCain)
She'd also be the only one actually speaking to America's greatness! And the European's weakness. It's damned depressing to hear absolutely no one talking about how great this country is. To hear Clinton, McCain, or the Messiah speak, one would think we were in the throws of the Great Depression, instead of a slowdown in the economy. A real sorry lot of people we have to chose from.
Is it too late to storm RNC headquarters and insist on a Romney/Rice ticket?
I'm sure there are more.
April 7, 2008 - 00:45 ET by RESTLESS 1I'm sure there are more. Just did a quick search and found that site. She can definitely hold her own when it comes to oratory skills. Obama may not like her on the repub. ticket for that reason.
I would like to hear her views on domestic affairs, but on first blush, I like getting her out there.
BT: I don't dislike her
April 7, 2008 - 04:21 ET by tracheostomyBT: I don't dislike her one bit, I have seen posters here over time want her for Prez. . .
:raising both arms:
"Guilty!"
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
She has said she's not interested
April 6, 2008 - 21:10 ET by FastEdBUT if she were to take the post, I'm wondering how the msm(Lsm) would react? Besides driving them crazy, it would also drive the left nuts, and over the edge. We then have to listen to their drivel and racist comments. That sound you hear is their heads exploding!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
As a right wing, bigoted,
April 6, 2008 - 21:03 ET by 10thAmendmentAs a right wing, bigoted, sexist, regular white guy - I think it's a great idea. Although I would really have the ticket reversed.
Run Condi Run.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Condi for President and
April 6, 2008 - 21:36 ET by NewsbusterbrownCondi for President and McCain for Veep? I agree that would be much more preferable than the other way around.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
I agree completely! We
April 6, 2008 - 23:23 ET by JerryI agree completely! We can only hope, although McCain is pretty old. Just saying..
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
It would be the kiss of
April 6, 2008 - 21:35 ET by ckc1227It would be the kiss of death. One, it would be seen for what it is: a lame attempt at attracting the black vote. It's not going to happen. Obama is getting that demographic by 95% or more. Accept it and move on. Two, putting someone from the current administration on his ticket in any capacity would be just about the dumbest thing he could do, short of putting another democrat on his ticket. Even I know that, and I'm a supporter of the current administration for the most part.
"another democrat on his ticket"
April 6, 2008 - 21:43 ET by ChaitealoverAnd that would include Liberman. Even though the Dems rejected him and he won as an Independent, he's still a Democrat. Exactly what a Republican president doesn't need breaking ties in the Senate [presuming we get enough Repubs in there to cause a tie vote on anything]
Chai
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you…of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you. Nikita Khrushchev (1894–1971)
ckc... The black and
April 6, 2008 - 21:44 ET by bigtimerckc...
The black and women vote.
It isn't going to work...sometimes I don't understand people behind the politico scene...I personally wished the likes of Rove and Gingrich would just go away...they keep sticking us with the moderates, we lost in the last election and ones before that...Toomey for example, with their way of thinking...
I give up...maybe there will be a major change someday....but this isn't it.
Just my rant.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
A number of posts have
April 6, 2008 - 22:20 ET by Tom1969caA number of posts have suggested that nominating Dr. Rice for the Vice Presidency would be "going after the black vote" or "going after the female vote".
Why do we automatically assume that is the motivation? Could the motivation in any way be Dr. Rice's qualifications? Could it instead actually be because she'd be good in the job?
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I admire FDR for not insisting on getting the approval of France and Germany before going to war.
--Anne Coulter
Tom...it very well could
April 6, 2008 - 22:24 ET by bigtimerTom...it very well could be.
I just want to know more about her and her postions here within, and what has she accomplised exactly foreign wise...
I am not being smart here, I am serious.
I posed these questions in other posts here since this thread appeared.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Condi?
April 6, 2008 - 21:45 ET by angryafricanMaybe she didn't get the memo? Or just didn't think it was worth reading.
(Sorry - always wanted to use that line!)
Angrican
April 6, 2008 - 21:48 ET by MrShyHuh?
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For REAL Change
MrS...thanks..I was
April 6, 2008 - 21:51 ET by bigtimerMrS...thanks..I was wondering the same.... HUH?
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Hey BT
April 6, 2008 - 22:14 ET by MrShyWe await..... :p
Btw, the more I think about it, the more I like Condi for VP. Maybe this is the time this country needs to do some bloodletting (medaphorically, of course) and conservatives counter with a black nominee. It's probably the only way -- fist to fist -- to expose liberals for the ugly hypocrites they are in matters of race. Because it WILL, unfortunately (but again, probably a good growing-pains exercise), be ugly if there is indeed a black on the GOP ticket as well -- and the ugliness will be instigated almost exclusively from the left.
Also, blazer is absolutely right that we are all succumbing to this "don't-associate-with-Bush" crap, and if anything, we should be shoving back and proudly associating with him.
But the real reason -- she's incredibly bright and qualified.
I say.... put her on and bring it on.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
MrS... Oh I agree with
April 6, 2008 - 22:20 ET by bigtimerMrS...
Oh I agree with the don't associate with Bush crap too, for me it is infuriating...especially when McCain uses it...
In the meantime back at the ranch nobody minds the money he brings in for their campaigns...
Ahhh..good old politics...pure blood sport.
I'm just gonna' sit back and watch the show...it looks like it's gonna' be rather enjoyable.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I believe that's a reference
April 6, 2008 - 22:11 ET by balboaI believe that's a reference to the memo on possible terrorist attacks that Condi saw but didn't give credence to?
Do what Anal African????????
April 6, 2008 - 21:55 ET by R D HelmLOL-I have always wanted to use that term.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Before George Allen was cut
April 6, 2008 - 22:23 ET by USA4freedomBefore George Allen was cut off at the knees by the W. P. I wanted to see Allen and Condi.
But I do not see an advantage to her now. With on very large exception! If Hillary gets the nod, then every black person will feel screwed and will be looking to get even, and will see that with Condi.
But.. with Mc Lame, he seems to relish the idea of sticking his finger in the eyes of the conservatives. So he will probably will pick some one like himself,.. a RINO. If so, he better get every middle of the road Republican and Democrat because he will not get the base. They are already P/O’