For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Spitzer supposedly will resign today (paragraph break removed):
Gov. Eliot Spitzer has decided to resign and began notifying top state officials of his decision just after 9 a.m., The Post has learned. Word began circulating of his decision in state political circles just minutes ago, which came after what one source called "an agonizing night," as the governor's wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, and the governor's lawyers went over a possible plea deal offered by federal prosecutors, sources told The Post.
What might this plea deal involve? Would he be resigning so quickly if this wasn't an election year? Do you think he's gotten pressure from the Democrat Party to hastily quit so that this issue can get off radar screens before folks start connecting the dots between him and Hillary? Will press members ever divulge to the public that he was a Democrat?
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First post? Wow!
March 12, 2008 - 10:22 ET by Indiana JoeOkay, by the numbers:
1. Ratting out others, maybe?
2. No way
3. Oh yeah.
4. Highly doubtful
Would they need his testimony?
March 12, 2008 - 10:26 ET by sarcasmoIf they've been listening for months, I suspect the feds have already got a case against clients 1-8, etc. without needing any help from Elliot.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
Could be...
March 12, 2008 - 10:35 ET by Indiana JoeMaybe they need more against clients 10-thru-? I wonder who else may have gotten caught up in this? It WAS in DC, right? He's not the only politician that uses hookers, I'm sure. This could just be the tip of the iceberg!
Or just a way to help him and not have it look like a "political" favor. Even if his testimony is useless, it gives them a better reason to let him off the hook.
Seems like almost anything is possible at this point. And it could get REAL interesting before it's all over.
the surprise to me
March 12, 2008 - 10:22 ET by sarcasmoIs pressure for him NOT to quit from some Democrats like Dershowitz. I suppose in the context of various other non-quitters still in office it should be no shock...
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
Surprised? Really?
March 12, 2008 - 10:42 ET by Indiana JoeDems closing ranks around a "troubled" cohort shouldn't be a surprise, I should think.
I haven't heard any Dems calling for him to step down, or defending him, for that matter. I think Dersh may have just had a "knee-jerk" response, rushing to defend any Dem in trouble. But I would think that, on reflection, the Party would want to get this off the front pages and "move on" as quickly as possible.
"Just make it go away!"
He's beyond just "troubled" though
March 12, 2008 - 10:51 ET by sarcasmoThis kind of sexual hypocrite story is pure political poison. It's gotten far more media than his trooper shenanigans, which should have spelled the end of his political career IMO. I think Dershowitz may be reacting emotionally because this is his former student/employee, but he must know this scandal is deadly for the Democrats if it continues, which it will if Spitzer doesn't go today.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.
Is pressure for him NOT to
March 12, 2008 - 10:56 ET by motherbeltIs pressure for him NOT to quit from some Democrats like Dershowitz.
I think Spitzer was waiting to see if there was a groundswell of support from people urging him to stay. He gave it a couple of days, and he got some, but it didn't meet the threshold he'd need to remain. So he's throwing in the towel.
AP -- Spitzer resigns, gone Monday
March 12, 2008 - 10:26 ET by Jack BauerSpitzer's finally thrown himself under the prositute.. for the sake of the party.
I understand the Lt. gov is
March 12, 2008 - 10:46 ET by Indiana JoeI understand the Lt. gov is black and blind? So how many "firsts" will that count as?
Yeah, and if you thought
March 12, 2008 - 11:31 ET by DCC1Yeah, and if you thought Spitzer was a liberal "progressive", you ain't seen nothin yet.
Islamofacists want change too
The Dems want him off the radar screen
March 12, 2008 - 10:46 ET by JayTeeWhat might this plea deal involve?
Saving $$$'s on Lawyer Fees. How come Lawyers can't defend themselves in Court ? Two Harvard Law degrees in a Family and they have to get outside help ? ?
Would he be resigning so quickly if this wasn't an election year?
They're scared of Overflow...Obama / Hillary are lawyers.
Will press members ever divulge to the public that he was a Democrat?
Most of the Americans Public can Figure it out, but Jay Walk Allstars may continued to be fooled. Begging for Honest/consistent/Bias free Reporting from the MSM is TORTURE .
And now, today's Shrub
March 12, 2008 - 10:49 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd now, today's Shrub Report®:
Happy Anschluss, everybody! Seventy years just seems to fly by…
Another Lady Pantsuit lie debunked. When Carrot-Top-level comedians are outwitting you, you know you are in trouble.
Ron Paul is incapable of condemning the death of dirty Joos in Israel, but he is not brave enough to vote against important pieces of legislation, such as congratulating the UCLA women's water polo team and Kansas football teams… Such a visionary!
Mexicans are doing meth lab work that Americans will not do!
Today's Global Warming Update.
Philly's own Vinny Fumo became a PA state senator 30 years ago when his predecessor was found guilty of racketeering and bribery. Fumo rose to the top of the state senate until his federal indictment a year ago for fraud, obstruction of justice, about 140 counts total.. Did he step down? Of course not. But the poor lil' fella had a heart attack last month, and now he is going to "retire". Guess his political party… I wonder if he'll lose his pension. This politician of undeterminable party affiliation didn't. Another Philly legend, teamster thug Fast Eddie Rendell, never one to NOT show favoritism, is under fire because his old law firm is billing the state for millions. So, what better way to tie this together than by having Fast Eddie appearing with Fumo today to announce this retirement. Quit the team, eh?
It's been a while since we've had a Carl Kolchak Robert Mugabe Update!
The greatest bass player in rock and roll turns 52 today.
Donkeys and camels rally for Gaza!
Today's Religion of Peace Update. The hits never stop coming, do they, Truthie?
A Gitmo Update.
Darwinism is alive and well!
And, finally, all fear the mighty Russian army!
Pravda
March 12, 2008 - 10:54 ET by cvgbuckeyePravda, the old Soviet Union state controlled news media was more honorable and less biased than the American media and desrves more respect.
absolutely rog! Muslims
March 12, 2008 - 11:08 ET by TruthMongerabsolutely rog! Muslims suck bro
got anything on the friggin Catholics at all? i could really use some help on that kiddie perv mafia when you have some time
http://www.karisable.com/catholic.htm
the hits do keep coming...thanks bud - superior race unite! whoo hoo
I agree with you. The
March 12, 2008 - 11:58 ET by Roger the ShrubberI agree with you. The Catholic Church should be ashamed of themselves for keeping their sins hush-hush for so long. If you feel the need to target Catholics to make you feel better about your archaic religion, Tumbles, by all means, carry that torch. But you have enough trouble keeping track of your own religion, let alone exposing the horrors of the Catholic Church, so good luck with that.
Until the Religion of Peace stops butchering, murdering, and subjugating like it's the 15th-century, I will carry that torch.
Oh, ad feel free to begin your lengthy expose on my bigoted ways. You've had a few days to mull it over.
it's not just the
March 12, 2008 - 12:58 ET by TruthMongerit's not just the friggin pope worshippers and moohommed freaks - got some stuff for us later on the heebroos too - you and me buddy - we can do it - non WASPS are going down bro:)!!
(insert howard dean scream here)
Less talk. More action,
March 12, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Roger the ShrubberLess talk. More action, Tumbles.
Guess the party
March 12, 2008 - 11:08 ET by JerGuess the party affiliation? Hmm...that's a tough one, Rog. But since the Fumo article states he had planned to run in the Democratic primary, and had been the Democratic chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, I'll take a wild stab and guess he's a "Democrat".
Now LaGrotta...since both of the related articles at the linked site clearly identify him as a Democrat, I'm going to go with "Democrat".
How'd I do?
Jer
Sindbad asked, "What kind
March 12, 2008 - 11:39 ET by Hunter12Sindbad asked, "What kind of president would send the first lady...?". We know the answer to that one. Hillary probably made Chelsea go along so she wouldn't end up like Ron Brown.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Sorry, Roger, but you got
March 12, 2008 - 11:41 ET by OldSailor88Sorry, Roger, but you got one wrong.
The greatest bass player in rock and roll turns 55 on July, 29.
Stultus est sicut stultus facit
OS88,
March 12, 2008 - 11:50 ET by R D HelmLOL-You beat me to it. :-)
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Yeah yeah yeah :p I was
March 12, 2008 - 12:05 ET by Roger the ShrubberYeah yeah yeah :p
I was expecting the pro-Geddy Lee crowd to speak out. You guys are an unruly bunch!
To me, Geddy is #2 on my list. a CLOSE #2, mind you.
I love them both!
How could this be possible,
March 12, 2008 - 12:41 ET by BDHow could this be possible, you rank them over DEREK?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Smalls
I Dissent!
March 12, 2008 - 19:57 ET by Del DolemonteThe best working bass player in rock music today is a guy hardly anyone has ever heard of, fellow by the name of Joey Spampinato, co-founder of rock musician cult fave band NRBQ, whose fans include Sir Paul McCartney, REM, Los Lobos, Elvis Costello, Bonnie Raitt, and Homer Simpson (the Q was the house band on "The Simpsons" for several years and even appeared in animated form on the episode where Marge was kidnapped by a motorcycle gang). They have been on hiatus for a few years, but did 2 reunion shows last year and also played at "Simpsons" executive producer Mike Scully's 50th birthday party.
In fact, Joey was a finalist to replace Bill Wyman in the Rolling Stones a few years back-he was the choice of Keef Richards, who hired him to play bass for the Chuck Berry "Hail! Hail! Rock and Roll" Movie. Mick favored another bass player, but both of them deferred to Stones drummer Charlie Watts, who eventually shot both Keef and Mick down when he picked the third, totally different winner (Daryl Jones?)
The Islamo-supremecists
March 12, 2008 - 11:58 ET by R D HelmThe Islamo-supremecists aren't going to have to take us by force, as it appears that certain idiot judges in this country are more corncerned about the "constitutional rights" of the Jihadists than the rights of we Americans here in our very own own country.
Aparently, Judge Illston got this media Jihad memo a couple of days ago.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
RD... Maybe a couple of
March 12, 2008 - 12:17 ET by Clear thinkerRD...
Maybe a couple of years as a guest at Gitmo would cure the stupidity of these judges.
And... don't we have a (R) guy running for POTUS that feels pretty much the same way as this judge?
"Abstain from McCain"
Ct, it's a good thing (for them) I am not POTUS.
March 12, 2008 - 16:07 ET by R D HelmBecause that is exactly where they would be, along with some reporters, and their bosses, at the NYT and the WaPo.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Hey RD... I just got done
March 12, 2008 - 16:15 ET by bigtimerHey RD...
I just got done reading about that too and saved the link to put on here, while I was looking for another link on another subject...anyway if figures doesn't it, another Clinton Judge who does CAIR.
Glad he is taking it to the 9th circuit, and then you know where that is going to go next most likely...if possible that is.
Like Ct says...some of these judges really need to visit GITMO....along with some of our current politicians and past now that I think about it.
bt, Yeah, and when will McCain apologize to CAIR for the suit?
March 12, 2008 - 16:24 ET by R D HelmLOL-I mean, you just know its coming.
I am 110% behind Michael on this one, as the "Justice Department" seems to be much too busy not enforcing our immigration laws to be bothered with the CAIR crowd.
I consider these people to be part of the "enemy within" and a direct threat to this country, and it disgusts me that so many don't seem to see that threat.
If someone doesn't go after them in a big way, we will be where Canada currently is right soon.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Rendell on Call Girls
March 12, 2008 - 12:02 ET by Hero SquadI heard this on the radio yesterday... a quote from Ed Rendell concerning Eliot Spitzer:
First, I thought it was real decent of him to disparage 49 other governors in his comments regarding Spitzer.
Second, I now would like to know where he places himself on that list of the most likely governors to hire the services of a call girl.
Third... seriously, you'd rank Sara Palin (Alaska), Janet Napolitano (Arizona), Jodi Rell (Connecticut), Ruth Ann Minner (Delaware), Linda Lingle (Hawaii), Kathleen Sebelius (Kansas), Jennifer Granholm (Michigan), and Christine Gregoire (Washington) as more likely to use the services of a call girl than Eliot Spitzer?
And finally, who would he rank as the #1 most likely governor to enlist the services of a call girl.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
You have this funny notion
March 12, 2008 - 12:10 ET by Roger the ShrubberYou have this funny notion that Fast Eddie actually pays attention to what he says, haha.
You brought up a good question: WWFAD? What Would Fast Eddie Do?
Yeah, I read somewhere that
March 12, 2008 - 16:38 ET by motherbeltYeah, I read somewhere that for his next birthday, Fast Eddie's wife is going to get him a tape-delay for his mouth....
Rev. Al.....again.
March 12, 2008 - 10:59 ET by motherbeltIs anyone at all surprised by this?
The worm has turned, so to speak.
mb,
March 12, 2008 - 11:09 ET by R D HelmRev. Al Not-too-Sharp is exhibit "A" as to why we need a "loser pays" system in this country.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Does Sharpton have photos of Hannity....
March 12, 2008 - 11:17 ET by Prester John......or is he paying him off?
Nothing else can explain why he crawls out of the swamp every so often to be on H&C or Hannnity's radio show.
I FOUND ONE! and from a Blue State Newspaper!
March 12, 2008 - 11:01 ET by FastEdI'm sure that there is a pink slip waiting for this editor, hipe he pleads he/she didn't get the memo! Course, second para, not first.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Rutgers - not just football!
March 12, 2008 - 11:07 ET by FastEdSpring break brings on "Latex Luau" - nice to know what is being "taught" at universities today - Maybe Spitzer should have gone here instead of Princeton.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Are those SUV's that Spitzer's entourage are in, not Prius!
March 12, 2008 - 11:34 ET by PawpawNAre those SUV's that Spitzer's entourage are in, not Prius! Geez, these Dims talk such a great game, then do so much the opposite! Oh, you say he brought CARBON CREDITS from his pal Al Gore! Sorry for the intrusion!
Why Mississippi shows us a Republican will win in '08...
March 12, 2008 - 11:44 ET by vrwc13Mississippi results:
BHO wins Blacks 91 to 9
HRC wins Whites 72 to 21
BHO wins Males 61 to 38
BHO wins females 58 to 39
So a Republican White Male (RWM) against BHO where Whites out-number Blacks nationally 74 % to 12% - RWM wins.
A Republican White Male (RWM) against HRC where nationally its about 50/50 male/female, but Mississippi voted 60/40 - RWM wins.
Debate's over?
v
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
I am kinda worried though.
March 12, 2008 - 11:57 ET by ahusserI am kinda worried though. Right now it looks like Jimmy Carter Redux. I checked the Iowa Electronic Markets which have Dems 57% to Repubs 43% for President. The English bookies have BHO as "evens" with McCain anywhere from 3/2 to 11/5. BHO is kicking HRC's you know what for the nomination on these websites.
It just depends on which reality you decide to prescribe to:
March 12, 2008 - 12:13 ET by vrwc13It just depends on which reality you decide to prescribe to:
Party: Dems 72 mil, Reps 55 mil, Ind 42 mil
Race: Whites 74%, Blacks 12%
Male/female: 50/50
In a race where there are two white males; party, platform, position (lib to conservative) would rule
In a race where one party has either a woman or a black male; race and gender will probably rise up the scale as a factor.
For BHO; it's a tough 74% to 12%
For HRC; a lot of woman do not like her, and there are probably a lot of Archie Bunker dems out there who won't vote for her either.
v
The future has a way of arriving unannounced. - George Will
vrwc... From what I'm
March 12, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Clear thinkervrwc...
From what I'm hearing, Southern Democrats are going to throw caution to the wind and vote for McCain.
Their reasons are...
They won't vote for the black guy.
They won't vote for 'that woman'. Some of their wives will.
They think McCain acts like a Democrat.
I just wonder if any of the odds makers are taking all this into account?
"Abstain from McCain"
In reference to my comment
March 12, 2008 - 13:35 ET by ahusserIn reference to my comment above. The IEM is based at the University of Iowa so I considered the numbers suspect because, after all, the markets, a long standing project of the business school, were located on a college campus. I saw that many more dollars were flowing into buying Democrats than Republicans (buying in essence shares of Dem for Prez or Repub for prez that's how the IEM works). The theory being that these markets are more accurate with less margin for error than polls because people are risking real money. The Brit bookie odds are a little skewed because the vigorish is built into the odds given but will adjust based on money flows. After all Britain is pretty much a socialist country so I also considered these odds a little suspect. But again the theory being that these odds are more accurate than polls for the reasons given above. I felt this other perspective is interesting and informative.
Ct,
March 12, 2008 - 16:26 ET by R D HelmThey think McCain acts like a Democrat.
That's because he is a Democrat. :-O
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Spitzer Has Resigned
March 12, 2008 - 11:48 ET by TinianSpitzer just resigned.
Quick channel surf for (D) finds only 1
March 12, 2008 - 11:56 ET by PawpawNDid a quick channel surf to see if party affliation was shown in GOV SPITZER Resigns and find only FOX NEWS showed a (D) next to name. None while I watched CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, even C-SPAN! What does that tell ya!
feel for the wife
March 12, 2008 - 11:57 ET by SouthJersey1953Why do these jerks always parade thier wives out there too? Hasn't he done enough to her?
She should divorce his *&%% immediately and take him for all he has, especially for all he has put her and her tenneage daughters through.
SJ, why feel sorry for her?
March 12, 2008 - 16:42 ET by motherbeltSJ, why feel sorry for her? She supported that low-life by standing next to him on TV while he apologized, and again while he resigned. Sorry, she gets no sympathy from me. She can stay with him if she wants, but IMO she didn't owe him a public show of support.
mb... As you know...I
March 12, 2008 - 16:50 ET by bigtimermb...
As you know...I Second that post of yours.
I've posted elsewhere what I think of her and her motives.
Love Client #9
March 12, 2008 - 12:19 ET by Jack BauerV, funny.
Rush just played Paul Shanklin spoofing Bill Clinton performing Love Client #9.
Jack... I heard it first
March 12, 2008 - 13:45 ET by bigtimerJack...
I heard it first thing too this morning on his show, which he has played again since then, I love it that Bill Clintoon is the one doing the singing in the parody.
Deliciously funny!
McCain condemns King remarks (Big surprise!)
March 12, 2008 - 14:25 ET by motherbeltWe talked about this the other day.
Well, it took a while, but Sen. McCain has condemned Rep. Steve King's remark about terrorists "dancing in the streets" if Obama were elected President.
Is there no apologizing this man won't do? I'm sure that will get him the votes of a couple more "independents".
Right.
mb - McCain is running as a Republican. Who knew?
March 12, 2008 - 14:31 ET by Jack Bauermotherb -- still waiting for McCain to comment about the odious Spitzer.
Apparently John McCain is running for President as a Republican. Who knew? He has plenty of time to slam conservatives like King.
So has he made any political capital out of a sex scandal involoving his political opponents? (That's supposed to be the Democrats, by the way!)
Oddly enough, he had plenty to say/do/demand from recent Republican sex scandals! Not that I have a problem with his comments here.
I think Republicans should
March 12, 2008 - 15:13 ET by Hero SquadI think Republicans should be the first ones to call for their members to resign when they commit a crime or commit an egregious error in judgment and/or ethics, such as Sen. Craig did.
Leave the coddling and supressing of their shameful members to the Democrats.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Hero, and if they don't,
March 12, 2008 - 15:32 ET by motherbeltHero, and if they don't, the Democrats are experts at making them push them out. I agree with you ont he "ethics" of those situations, but you gotta wonder when you see how much good it doesn't do them.
I think Spitzer is a Democrat anomaly in resigning; I think he was stalling, hoping for a groundswell of support wanting him to "hang tough" but it didn't come and that's why resigned today.
And McCain: "Eliot
March 12, 2008 - 15:35 ET by motherbeltAnd
McCain: "Eliot who?"
If Spitzer were a Republican, McCain would be leading the "condemnation committee."
mb... i commented too on
March 12, 2008 - 14:35 ET by bigtimermb...
i commented too on this when it was first reported, I wondered just how long it would take him to do just that!
Sickening, Steve King is one of my favorite congressman, who I am glad will not back down, what he said was the TRUTH, something it seems people can't handle in this sissified country, least of all our politicians.
I for one have had it with all of the contenders...all of them.
I will vote for local politicians ect...but write in for President, I posted somewhere today where McCain has already put out more talking points on what can be said or not said about Obama, he makes me ill.
Btw...I know I am in the minority here, I know all the so-called logical reasons of why i should hold my nose and vote for him, well I won't, with the exception like I have always said, his pick for a running mate, if the person is a real conservative I may.
Btw...I am going to be looking for a couple links for some of the things I posted already today in about an hour.
Right, bt, you posted about
March 12, 2008 - 15:28 ET by motherbeltRight, bt, you posted about it the other day and wondered if McCain would apologize (I thought it was you but wasn't sure, that's why I used the generic "we discussed..." LOL.
I said it before: we will be lucky if McCain doesn't end up campaigning FOR Obama.
BTW, even Geraldine Ferraro has more testosterone than McCain...she said no way is she backing down on what she said about Obama.....if she were a Republican, McCain would probably apologize for her too.
mb,
March 12, 2008 - 16:16 ET by R D HelmI'm sure that will get him the votes of a couple more "independents".
My guess is that most of those "independents" who live in states that require registration by party, are busy changing their official affiliations back to democrat.
As for his most recent cave-in, the only apology I want to hear from him for the rest of the campaign is to us conservatives.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
This is trivial I know but I
March 12, 2008 - 16:41 ET by bigtimerThis is trivial I know but I found it amusing in a way with Tucker's response to all of this....I wasn't here that much Monday at all so this may have been posted anyway...Make room for David.
Saw that the other day, bt,
March 12, 2008 - 16:52 ET by motherbeltSaw that the other day, bt, but didn't really delve into it.
I found this interesting tidbit in the piece you linked to:
In a telephone interview Mr. Carlson said his conservative point of view was “out of sync” with the more liberal bent of MSNBC’s other marquee shows, including “Countdown With Keith Olbermann” and “Hardball” with Chris Matthews.
“I don’t think I was a perfect fit in the lineup,” he said. “I think that was obvious to anyone who was tuning in.”
MSNBC claims it's all about raising Gregory's profile, but why are they so anxious to do that??
Could this be the reason?
Hey mb... Yeah what a way
March 12, 2008 - 17:01 ET by bigtimerHey mb...
Yeah what a way to sneak that sleaze b!tch in....
Plus to top that off saying they never planned on becoming a liberal station competing with Fox is a bunch of BS if I ever heard it.
Tucker had at least increased his viewership in Feb by 24,000 I think it said, I was starting to enjoy his show somewhat...
I wonder if she is going to be replacing Abrams?
Well it will get ratings adn Justin is going to get to cover Rosie again, I know unfortunately I will check her out too to be honest here.
Lord... if they would just dump the sleaziest, filthiest, minblowin' insane leftist of all to me...Olbermann.
Well, bt, that was a while
March 12, 2008 - 19:43 ET by motherbeltWell, bt, that was a while ago....they've long since backed out of the Rosie deal.
I didn't mean to imply that they were getting rid of Tucker to bring in Rosie...sorry if I gave that impression. I linked to that piece because it said that MSNBC was deliberately slanting to the left. Which is why I think they got rid of Tucker and replaced him with the libreral Gregory.
Oh mb....I am really
March 12, 2008 - 19:47 ET by bigtimerOh mb....I am really laughing out loud, I took it the wrong way, my fault too...I have been in and out of here all afternoon with interuptions we all must tend too in our daily lives, like chores and work...anyway I thought it was a new idea again with Rosie.
Hey... I wouldn't put it past them anyway.
Thanks for the clarification though...I would of been wondering when her show was going to be announced....lol.
Nah, you don't have to worry
March 12, 2008 - 21:12 ET by motherbeltNah, you don't have to worry about being subjected to Rosie the O again anytime soon. (Big grin!)
I'm confused, I thought it was
March 12, 2008 - 16:45 ET by FastEdalgore who did the inventing. (from Drudge)
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Hey FE... Want to bet
March 12, 2008 - 16:53 ET by bigtimerHey FE...
Want to bet algore finds a way to say he had a hand in this too...lol.
I'm thinking only if
March 12, 2008 - 17:33 ET by FastEdhe can get something "green" out of it, or if it's realted to "cooling off".
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
»→ Ferraro resigns
March 12, 2008 - 17:18 ET by Cool ArrowGeraldine Ferraro is resigning from Hillary Clinton's finance committee.
Is Hillary going squishy? I think so
Was Geraldene right in comparing her 1984 gimmick run to that of Barack H. Obama. Of course she was.
♣ a seal
For You Jazz Fusion Fans
March 12, 2008 - 20:04 ET by Del DolemonteLegendary 1970s jazz rock fusion band Return to Forever (Chick Corea keyboards, Al DiMeola, guitar, Stanley Clarke on bass, and Lenny White, drums) will reunite for a 50 date tour this summer.
For anyone like me who were lucky enough to see them live in their heyday, these guys could ROCK with the best of them!
http://www.showbuzz....
Since we were talking about
March 12, 2008 - 20:12 ET by Roger the ShrubberSince we were talking about great bass players today, Mr. Long Fingers, Stanley Clarke, is pretty damn good, too!
drudge found her for me
March 12, 2008 - 20:10 ET by upcountrywaterhttp://www.myspace.com/ninavenetta
Iranian uranium; Iranian ICBM's; Iranian satellites..CHANGE is comming BELIEVE in that!