Open Thread


For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: What should folks that believe in manmade global warming be called?

The results of yesterday's poll indicate most NBers feel those that don't believe in anthropogenic global warming should be called "climate realists." Now, it's time to come up with a name for those that believe man is responsible for climate change.

However, before starting a new poll, I'd like some ideas. The purpose here is not to be inflammatory, or insulting -- although those looking to poke some fun should feel free to.

Instead, I'm looking for serious considerations to include in a poll. At this point, the options are: Climate Pessimist, Warm-monger, Warmaholic, Climate Alarmist, Warminator (courtesy of Anthony Watts), and Hot Head. Any other suggestions?

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And now, today's Shrub

And now, today's Shrub Report®:

 

80's flashback time: Both John Hughes and Molly Ringwald were born in this day (1950, 1968).

George Bush hates black people! Gulp down this bitter-tasting dose of reality, BDS tards.

Speaking of BDS tards

French police arrest 33 Bored Youths of Indistinguishable Race, Ethnicity, and Religion.

Thanks for the heartfelt apology, etc, etc, now bend over and grab your ankles.

Here's a story for all you Dook fans out there…

Woman "accidentally falls" from a 19th-floor window at the UN. Riiiiiiight.

AP reports on "Domestic Terrorism". Used as examples of domestic terror? White Supremacists. All the left-wing nutjob groups are bunched into one sentence, the last one of the article. Fair and balanced, indeed.

The Hopeful Changer will not wear an American Flag on his lapel nor recite the Pledge of Allegiance, but he will wear an anti-war wristband. I did not know The Hopeful Changer was such a follower of Biden

Baghdad wall reduces death rates dramatically. NYT is outraged!

Today's Global Warming Update.

Leaving Islam can be fraught with difficulty? Shocking…

Partner with Islam!

Today's Germophobe Update.

The UN is corrupt? Say it ain't so!

Sixty-five years ago today, pure evil was born, and forty years ago, Syd Barrett checked himself into the psych ward.

 

 

LOL Roger

Excellent work as always.

I bout threw a party last night after that dook game.

You and me both,

You and me both, Candance.

Watching Dook lose is always a fine sight to see!

ha ha Roger

Well if they keep playing like this and this, they're gonna lose a few more times this year. : - )

Wake Forest Fight Song

When I was in elementray school I had a teacher who was a grad of Wake. He made us learn the Wake Forest fight song. When the movie Brian's Song first came out I surprised my wife by singing along with James Caan when he had to get up during training camp and sing it. I never was a Deacon fan, but anybody that beats DOOK is tops on my list.

For your listening pleasure the Wake Forest fight song as performed by the Marching Demon Deacons.  

If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard

I just KNEW you would chime

I just KNEW you would chime in, hehehe

A quick SR addendum: An

A quick SR addendum: An explosion just occured at an oil refinery in Texas. Will gas prices jump by dinnertime tonight?

→ Watching it Roger

It's about 125 miles from my home.  Not far from Crawford, Tx.

♣ a seal

Big Springs, TX

That is where the Traven boys were from in The Shadow Riders. Miles Gillette was the sheriff.

If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard

How about

"therminions"?

"Siroccos"?

I love that...

I love that... "therminions"!

I don't know why Jack wants to come here...

Over in the UK, taxpayers get to own a bank!!
JMR

If this is winning, I think I'd rather lose...

Looking for terms: Does this

Looking for terms: Does this mean "environmental wackos" is off the table?

I love the "wacko" label

I love the "wacko" label when describing libs...however my wife hates when i use it. She says that it begins to bring me down to their level of namecalling etc. But hey I call it like i see it.

OK, so how about

OK, so how about "Enviro-Nazis"?

Glemmings

Glemmings = Gore + Lemmings

AGW devotees

Dizzygoths

♣ a seal

Activists

I personally like the terms Warm-monger and Climate Alarmist but I can see how the AGW crowd would find that offensive in the same way we find the term Climate Denialist offensive. I think Climate Activist best describes their movement becuase all the AGW leaders, including James Hansen, are activists first and a scientists second.

I was scrolling down the

I was scrolling down the home page today to see what I missed over the weekend and I came to the picture of Olberman above one of Janet Leigh from Psycho.  Did anyone else notice the similiarities?  It was scary.

OFF TOPIC...ANOTHER McCAIN X-FILES MOMENT

BUSH-McCAIN…IS IT 1975 AGAIN?

Feb
18, 2008…Talk about weird-o-rama. Bush the (so moderate) Elder (aka the
read my lips loser) is on TV endorsing 71 year old McCain… to “unite
the Party” while I read McCain has pledged “no new taxes”. This will
unite how many conservatives? Its an X-Files episode. Quite
frightening.

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

reelman... At least he

reelman...

At least he didn't say "read my lips". That would have forced people all around the country to run to the top of their homes and/or apartment buildings and take a nose dive. 

Set the GOP back on the right course. http://gopteaparty.com/

Call them Gore-bo's

Or "steamers".

 

How about "Enwhackomentalists"? 

 

Victory in Iraq.

 

Worst Film Lends Its Name

One of the worst films ever made by man was Ishtar. Scenes from Ishtar depicted the Moroccan desert which was very hot. This film was made by big lefties, directed by Elaine May and featuring Warren Beatty and Dustin Hoffman. Therefore poorly made drivel about a hot place presented by lefties should remind us all of Ishtar. . . . . and people who believe in manmade global warming should be known as "ISHTARIANS".

My secret shame... I

My secret shame... I actually liked the movie "Ishtar". Some of the songs in that film were hilariously awful.

"If you admit that you play the accordion, they'll never let you in a rock n roll band!"

Having said that, calling them Ishtarians is fine by me.

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

I think "Masochist"

I think "Masochist" fits! 

Set the GOP back on the right course. http://gopteaparty.com/

Let's "change" America

I am sick and tired of this message of "change". So Michelle Obama thinks Americans are "soulless". I, for one, don't want to change the land where my father died. He, and millions of "soulless" white males served their country when called upon, built communities, worked 50 weeks a year to support their families, and established a moral foundation for their children. They supported, some with their lives, the civil rights the Obamas now enjoy. Further back in history, through devastaing personal sacrifice, they wrote freedom into the Declaration of Independence and the Constituion of the United States. How ungrateful the Frank Riches of the world appear to me as his bashes our patriots-- implying that they are nothing but country club white "racists". How much more of the burden do these "liberals" want the white man to carry as they seek to raise his taxes and force him to be "his brother's keeper" while they cower at the thought of defending this nation against the terrorists who want to destroy what men like my father built with every ounce of devotion to the greater good? Obama is nothing but an ungrateful, spoiled child, a "liberal" socialist who has enjoyed all that white males (and others)  have given and now claims to want to "change" it. Sickening.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" 

Well said.

Well said.

iveseenitall, Michelle

iveseenitall, Michelle Obama doesn't think we're "soulless" she just thinks our souls are "broken" and her husband is the only one who can "fix" them. We are sick, and incapable of healing ourselves; we need St. Barack the Great to do it for us.

What the hell is a "broken soul" and how does her husband intend to repair it? What, if we let him lead us, we will become "whole again"?


Oh, please.

That's right up there with "We are the ones that we have been waiting for."

When I hear him say that, I want to give him a T shirt like one I saw a guy wearing, that said: "I've gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here."

 

Motherbelt

You are right, Motherbelt; she did say "broken souls". The arrogance of these ignorant, under-educated fools who go to Princeton and Harvard and learn nothing at all is disgusting. Humility is a  quality in a true leader. Yet humility is lost on the Obamas. For a person in her 40's to have the level of gall this woman expresses in that one idea --that she or her husband can fix broken souls--is quite telling and quite freightening. Ignorance knows no boundaries today.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

'For the First Time in My Adult Life, I Am Proud of My Country'

'For the First Time in My Adult Life, I Am Proud of My Country' Michelle Obama

http://hotair.com/ar...

...how insulting.

So for the last 25 years, this country has offered, allowed, supported your freedom of worship, occupation, and general right to life...and you find NOTHING to be proud of?

Try another country and come back when you grow up. Pathetic.

v

Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter. Isaiah 5:20

'For the First Time in My Adult Life, I Am Proud of My Country'

comment from Hot Ait link above:

not that we elected the first black president in 1992
Bwahahahahahaahahaaah!!!! LOL!

Next time I need a diet coke nasal spray, I will come to HotAir first!!

Califemme on February 18, 2008 at 5:36 PM

...personally, I got a little throw-up taste in my mouth when I first read it.

v

But evil people and impostors will flourish. They will deceive others and will themselves be deceived. 2 Timothy 3:13

Right

You've nailed it,13. My point exactly. I'm proud of my dad and his dad and all the others who built this nation. Again, for a woman in her 40's who is, by all accounts, very well off and has a better life than she would have any other place on earth, to say she has not been proud of this country is ignorant and, frankly, astounding.That statement alone demonstrates a level of ignorance, ungratefullness, and selfishness not worthy of being the wife of a President of the United States.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Well, isn't that the height

Well, isn't that the height of arrogance for this woman to claim that at an age of 40-something this is the first time she has been proud of her country? She hasn't been proud of a single thing this country has done, until her they bestowed adoration upon her husband????

I think that says a lot more about her than it does about this country.

This we definitely don't need for a First Lady.

Now excuse me, I think I'm going to be ill.

Climate Alarmist pretty much tags 'em

Bali Fruitcakes

CO 2 Freaks

Greenhouse Gores

Climate Geeks

 

Name those Alarmists

1.) Goremongers

2)  Glowarms

3)  Neo-Luddites

4)  Dark Agers - as in take us back to

5)  Trubes - true believers

6)  Hotheads     

I like

I like "Warm-mongers." 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Warm

Warm holes

Earthwarms

Warm-aholics

OCD (Obsessive Climate Disorder)

Premature Climate-ulators

 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Submission for Consideration

"Heat Misers"

Terms

There are 3 branches, in my opinion, of the modern environmental movement that is centered around AGW.

 

That group that uses AGW to enhance its own political power should be referred to as "eco-fascists".

 

That group of environmentalists that believe without question (i.e., faithfully) should be called "ecoists".

 

That group of believers that are neither informed about, nor invested in, AGW should be called "lemmings".

 

 

suggestions

The people? Globalarmists.

The idea? Globaloney.

Glo-BS'ers?

Glo-BS'ers? 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Hmmmm, hard not to find a

Hmmmm, hard not to find a derogatory term to describe Global Warming/Climate Change:

AGW Cultist

The Believers

The Gullibles

Enviro Socialists

Water Vapor Deniers

Oxygen Deprived

Thermal Dynamically Challenged

CO2 Haters

Butterfly Effectors

Climate Challenged

Hysterically Inclined

Catastrophism or Nothing

It used to be talking about the weather was a good ice breaker and non-contraversial subject.  It's amazing to think that a group of people so nebulous in their details would elevate talking about the weather to something of drastic world ending proportions. 

 

 Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008  Long Live the Empire!  Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.

GlobALs

There is only one term as in Gerrymander.........let the source fit the group.

They should be called globALs and pronounced globe Al's.

They are all Al's pals for profit and dictatorial communist gain.

Globe Als.

 

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Al-amanders?

Al-amanders? 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

For those who blame co2 and man made GW

how about:
HokeyStick Believers
Don't Exhalers
Climate Coolers
Anti-climoconists
Heat-stinkers
De-Carbonists
Folkeliminators
Climinationists

Carbonistas

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Pusillanimous Climate doom merchants

Climate aristarch

 

Climate carper

 

Climate nerds

 

Pusillanimous Climate doom merchants

(;~>

Let's just call them what they are. Climate Commies.

I mean, why beat around the bush?

As an inhabitant of

As an inhabitant of Massachusetts I have stated for a while the alarming similarities between the "empty suit" Barack Obama and his mini-me (Deval Patrick) here in Massachusetts.

Both are campaigning/campaigned on hope and change with little substance to back it up. Deval Patrick successfully pulled off the ruse and the great people of Massachusetts have been left to watch him make one mistake after another with an "I can't believe I actually one the thing" look on his face since the day he took office.

Little did I know how similar they really were...

http://www.huffingto...

Even the lefties at ABC (jake Tapper) have picked up on this. Will this be Hillary's smoking gun or will it not even register with the mindless Obamaniacs that this guy is about as real as the Easter Bunny?

"There are scandals that need to be addressed. Republicans address them, Democrats re-elect them." - Tom Delay

Barak/Deval

The similarities are striking, right down to campaign slogans:

"Together We Can" - Deval Patrick

"Yes We Can" - B. Hussein Obama

Ya know though, MC, if we can ship Deval to Washington through this .... hmmmm. Opportunity may be knocking.

What's hilarious is that

What's hilarious is that the quote Obama lifted from Patrick includes other lifted quotes. Looks like he plagarized a plagarizer.

How long before Joe Biden lifts Obama's quote lifted from Patrick lifted from Kennedy and Roosevelt?

*****

Krusty the Clown: If this isn't Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit! 

I know there were more than

I know there were more than just a few of us here at NB that suspected this.

Nothing to suspect,

we're the only ones with . .

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Nothing to suspect,

we're the only ones with . .

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Today's Obamanation (well, an indirect one, anyway)

Did you know that if Barack Obama gets elected, campus shootings are going to be a thing of the past?

Yeah, me, too, but columnist Mary Mitchell at the Chicago Sun-Times is convinced of it.

Gore Gullibles

Misinformed Ignoramouses is probably more accurate, but sounds too harsh.

 

To know and not do, is to not yet know

How about

"Carbon Obnoxides"

→ warmers?

consensualists

♣ a seal

Actually I think I have it,

Actually I think I have it, Climate Changers are always looking to sell carbon credits like the money handlers of old, so they should be called:

Ka-chingers!

 Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008  Long Live the Empire!  Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.

DIOs (Debate Is Over) G's

DIOs (Debate Is Over)

G's S Freaks (Gore's pSeudo-science Freaks)

CLIMMOs (Chicken Little Is My Modus Operandi)

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Climate Amnesians

Partial or total loss of memory, usually resulting from shock, psychological disturbance, brain injury, or illness. BDS

'73 it's cooling, '03 it's warming.

Sunspot deniers

Blue sky taxers.

Iranian uranium; Iranian ICBM's; Iranian satellites..

 

ohbama thinks change from ,no nuks to nuks is GOOD!

Keep the change Bob. h/t Sam Peckinpah

Taxmanian Devils

♣ a seal

Warmosexuals  C O

Warmosexuals

 C O 2pids

Methaning-me-crazies

Cow corkers

Car-boners

I got all day folks

 

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985

I kinda like

Car-boners - seems they've got the hots for GW and the problems "we" created. Too bad though, after all that "action", we might end up with a "carbon nation", and as it stands, I'm not fond of all the bubbly libs as it is.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

WaPo question... Have any

WaPo question...

Have any of you ever participated in the response forums to articles posted at the wapo?

If you have, maybe you can help me. Are the people that leave comments there working on computers in the libraries in institutions of the insane? 

Set the GOP back on the right course. http://gopteaparty.com/

Probably...

computers at the State Department, not that there's much difference.

That would explain

That would explain it. 

Set the GOP back on the right course. http://gopteaparty.com/

AND, I've heard

those machines are routed through Putin's office!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Religion of Peace

Today's example of the so called "religion of peace"

If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard

What should we call them?

How about sheep.

They follow without thought.

Big Daddy Al says that we are all gonna die unless we follow him, let's do it.

 

Rednecks just ain't smart

or care about others - when was the last time you saw a lib do this?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Gorebalites.  that's what

Gorebalites.  that's what they should be called.  That's what I've been calling them for years.  One Gorebalite at work referred to me as Nazi for calling her a Gorebalite.

Science-lite

4 Gorebalites? 

The Iranian Oil Bourse.

This guy "got" in 2006 it had/has serious implications for the dollar...Except for the date it could have been written yesterday, IMO, but we'll soon see if he's right.
JMR

If this is winning, I think I'd rather lose...

This guy is a dolt!  He

This guy is a dolt!  He with one breath condemns a government controlled currency manuipulation scheme and then in the next extols a competitive government controlled currency manipulation scheme.

This Iranian scheme is doomed for the same reason that US currency twiddling is doomed policy.  And the Iranian scheme will fail with much less force.  At $100 per barrel, oil in the US and Canada is so plentiful that we can simply ignore Iran.  The Euro is enormously vulnerable to two factors:  (1) The socialist governments of Europe tottering in the edge of bankruptcy and (2) Chinese competition in European markets.  The Europeans can't afford their welfare states without continuing to oppress millions of immigrants and they can't keep out the Chinese forever.

Um, can you give an example??

Saying it doesn't prove it, and $100 ain't what it used to be. Iran either does or doesn't have a right to sell Iranian oil for crappy fiat currencies. (This "crappy fiat currencies" category includes Euros and Rubles along with USD.) Is Iran allowed to do this with Iran's oil? If so, why all the hysteria from the US media whenever they act like they're going to try?

Eventually, they'll figure-out what's real money again along with everyone else who'll need to learn/re-learn monetary history. Coherence in terms rather than the usual name-calling might help your argument, because you're FAR from proving your case, and what this "dolt" said in 2006 happens to be in the process of coming true before your eyes...
JMR

If this is winning, I think I'd rather lose...

what to call the GW believers?

The term I generally use is:

Adherants of the cult of Global Warming.

Most rational people recognize that emotional need to bleong that adherants exhibit. The fact that they choose emotionaly loaded words like deniers when referring to those rational enough to question their beliefs speaks volumes about where they are coming from.

How about "Greengos?" ;) 

How about "Greengos?" ;) 

ZF

ZF,

Greengos. I really like that. :-) ns

For the first time in her

For the first time in her adult life  Obama's wife is proud of her country?  What the hell kind of BS is that?  What kind of people ARE these people??? They had better not get within one inch of OUR White House or we are in some serious trouble.

This is just unbelievable, I wish I knew how to start a thread on this site, I'd start one in a second on what this woman said.  How are these slugs going to spin this???

C-Rex

hit the forum link under Newsbusters at the top of the pagen then hit 'post new forum topic'

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

AGW proponents named?

Manbearpiglets  ???

Fools?  That comes to mind

Fools?  That comes to mind as a useful descriptor.

How about Humanocentrists?  AGW'ers believe the universe revolves around man, that there is no force on this planet that dwarfs mankind.  Their hubris is breathtaking.

Google "disappears" journalist critical of UN

"Journalist Who Exposes U.N. Corruption Disappears From Google"

It seems that Google is not a fan of the 1st amendment.

In November 2007, during a press conference in
which Google announced its partnership with the UNDP to achieve
anti-poverty goals, Lee earned a less-than-friendly response when he
asked why the Internet company hadn't signed a global human-rights and
anti-censorship compact —elements in the U.N.'s Millennium Development
Goals.

[Google spokesman Gabriel Stricker told
FOXNews.com that "Google generally does not sign petitions or join
coalitions but prefers to support public-engagement and advocacy
efforts through the work of Google.org and by leveraging our products,
such as Google Earth."]

It was this incident,
says Lee that put him in the crosshairs. Lee said he felt certain that
the Internet company and the international agency had now joined forces
to make his work less accessible to the public.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

Sometimes local TV news

Sometimes local TV news shows surprise me.  The local CBS News affiliate, Channel 19 Action News, has a recurring bit between former gal pal of actor Robert De Niro and nudist for art and ratings Sharon Reid and bombastic local talk radio host Mike Trivisonno called TrivTalk.

Click here and then click on the link entitled "TrivTV: Massive Recall Concerns".  Check out the 1 minute 30 second mark for Triv's great lambasting of the presidential candidates, primarily McCain and Huckabee.

Have to say I agree with Triv on this one.

Anger: Sen. John McCain Shown to be a Puppet of George Soros

Author: George Soros brains behind McCain-Feingold

'Activist wanted limits on advertising after Hillarycare defeat'

An investigative author says George Soros used Sen. John McCain to push for limits on issue advertising by grassroots groups because he was upset over the cataclysmic failure of Hillarycare, the all-encompassing government health care program proposed during Bill Clinton's first term as president.

The author, Richard Poe, told WND that Soros later funded the senator's Reform Institute because of their work together on the McCain-Feingold Act.

"Money paid to the Reform Institute rewarded McCain for pushing the McCain-Feingold Act, a law which restricts the ability of grassroots groups to advertise on television, while allowing major media free rein to promote their favorite Democrat candidates," Poe told WND.

According to the author, Soros devised McCain-Feingold in 1994 in response to the failure of Hillarycare, the universal health care program Hillary Clinton championed.

Hillary, Soros and other Democrats blamed the defeat of Hillarycare on television advertising and, as a result, Soros resolved to choke off access to the TV airwaves to those opponents, Poe told WND... More >>

Source: WorldNetDaily

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Huckabee/Hunter '08

McCain also

Was a Senator with enough time on his hands to be one of the early political attackers of "ultimate fighting." While I found the young sport somewhat disturbing to watch in its early days, I found the prospect of politicians wanting to regulate it even-more-disturbing, especially considering 2 things:

1. Ali's brain problems seemed to be a result at least in part of boxing, and this new sport -- violent as it looks -- seems safer (without being safe) from that standpoint.

2. Boxing was dying. It's dull these days unless the rapist bites someone's ear off or SOMETHING having absolutely-nothing to do with boxing happens. That had to change, and especially in its disturbing early days, the UFC was interesting.

The UFC-innovators really preceded today's UFC. People like Gracie had to sell, and apparently it took casino-money and some new rules to keep the politicians at bay. Maybe the rules were needed, but if rules were to come I wish they'd evolved freely in the sports -- not political lobbyist -- marketplace. That they didn't speaks volumes of our obese-government problems, IMO.
JMR

If this is winning, I think I'd rather lose...

But it's not a government bailout

At least England honestly took-over Northern Rook when it sank. This delay-tactic is monetary heroin, IMO. Feels good at the time of the injection, but consequences always come.
JMR

If this is winning, I think I'd rather lose...