ABC's "Political Radar" blog reported Wednesday (h/t NBer Gat New York, paragraph break removed for space):
On Wednesday, a top adviser to John McCain said more definitively than he has in the past that he will step down from the Arizona senator's presidential campaign if the presumed GOP nominee faces Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in the general election..."I would simply be uncomfortable being in a campaign that would be inevitably attacking Barack Obama," said McCain adviser Mark McKinnon in an interview with NPR's "All Things Considered." "I think it would be uncomfortable for me, and I think it would be bad for the McCain campaign."
If you were McCain, would you fire this man immediately due to his obviously divided loyalties? Any other thoughts, NBers?














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Mark McKinnon
February 15, 2008 - 21:49 ET by PrairieSkyIf I were McCain, this guy would be history. NOW! I can't imagine keeping this yutz on the payroll, given his apparent difficulties in determining where his loyalties lie. When I heard this story, I almost couldn't believe what I was hearing. What a weasel! Good riddance.
You gotta admit this is
February 15, 2008 - 21:57 ET by Clear thinkerYou gotta admit this is funny.
Set the GOP back on the right course. http://gopteaparty.com/
CT...funny
February 15, 2008 - 22:09 ET by PrairieSkyYes-After giving it some thought, I was able to see the humor in the situation. This is one of those "it's so absurdly ridiculous that it's funny" moments.
just hilarious
February 15, 2008 - 22:19 ET by botgthat McCain campaign personnel also support BO. Tells you exactly why Juan needs to appeal to the conservative base---he's a lib!
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Ct, side-splitting, even.
February 15, 2008 - 22:13 ET by R D HelmIf this in any indication of McCain's judgment, he's toast before the MSM even plugs in the toaster.
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
I have a different take
February 15, 2008 - 22:02 ET by red_dragon311I have a different take on this....he's being smart.....ANYTHING said about Obama will be viewed ....of couse by the MSM...as racist.
I think he is just getting so as not to be caught in the middle of ...worst case ...race roits all over the US. this is never going to happen but ...........
yea he is a piece of sh!t, sissy, no ball having, quiter. but i can see why he did it even if it was to save his own skin.
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
so
February 15, 2008 - 22:17 ET by bigpapaby your logic since I'm a white male I cannot make negative comments about Obama or Hillary without being racist or sexist????
If I attack their socialist positions and obvious faults I'm racist and sexist...
So I need to seperate myself from the coservatives so I don't appear racist or sexist....
Nope,, not gonna happen.
I agree...I think he will
February 15, 2008 - 23:07 ET by motherbeltI agree...I think he will simply not campaign against Obama, not because he supports him, but because he's black. He just doesn't want to be one who campaigns against the black guy.
And because of that, McCain ought to get rid of him, right now. Why should he keep his job if he's not willing to go the whole way?
motherbelt,
February 15, 2008 - 23:36 ET by R D HelmWhy should he keep his job if he's not willing to go the whole way?
Because his boss, the sheep in wolf's clothing, is not prepared to go the whole way, either.
After all, employees are a reflection of their employer.
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
Red, It's too late!!
February 16, 2008 - 00:30 ET by IamTinmanThe libs already have anyone to the right of Dennis Kucinich pegged as a racist, Uncle Tom, or Oreo, depending on your pigmenation. That card has already been played.
Ultimately no man can serve two masters. If his loyalty is truly to Barack, He should quit now and go to work for the Obama campaign.
Except that would be the moral thing to do and morals don't seem to be very important in this election.
NPR
February 15, 2008 - 22:06 ET by ThisnThatIf it was me, I'd fire him just for being on NPR!
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TnT,
February 15, 2008 - 23:57 ET by R D HelmBut National Proletariet Radio is such a great source for...for...for...
Well, it's a great source for something. :-)
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
So McCain, the sheep in wolf's clothing, is conceding defeat..
February 15, 2008 - 22:11 ET by R D Helm...before the real race even starts.
Imagine my surprise.
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
RD
February 15, 2008 - 22:22 ET by Noel SheppardRD,
Not on a Friday night, for goodness sake. Can't I enjoy my martini without having to defend my candidate just once? It's Presidents Day weekend, for gosh sakes. :-)
Meant in good fun, with hopes it will be taken that way. ns
Noel, LMAO-Well dayem, you started it!
February 15, 2008 - 22:29 ET by R D HelmOkay, I'll play along.
Once I go pour up another splash of the Macallan, that is.
Sheesh.
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
RD
February 15, 2008 - 22:31 ET by Noel SheppardRD,
Macallan? Nice. A little unblended scotch can never hurt. How old -- the scotch, that is, not you? ns
Noel,
February 15, 2008 - 22:53 ET by R D HelmIts the 12yo bottle I got from a relative for Christmas. I already finished off the 16yo bottle my brother gave me. Guess I got a little impatient.
Good stuff, that was. :-)
Oh, and please, enjoy your martini(s).
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
Both
February 16, 2008 - 07:32 ET by Gat New YorkMine is an 18 year old the Glenlivet which I have only once a week.
canned
February 15, 2008 - 22:13 ET by bigpaparight here right now..
McCain is on thin ice with most real conservatives already... to allow this...
He should never have been hired
February 15, 2008 - 22:23 ET by Republican_by_DefaultThis is a reflection on McCain, not McKinnon.
It's just one more in a long series of reasons that McCain should not have gotten away with calling himself a Republican this long. He's been a Democrat at least since 2001, albeit a moderate one.
So why fire McKinnon? Fire McCain.
re:...hired
February 15, 2008 - 22:32 ET by PrairieSkyMcKinnon was a questionable hire, no doubt about it. However, to be fair, this jumping back and forth between parties is fairly common for a lot of these "advisors". What I think is untenable is that this guy bails in the middle of a campaign. You'd think that he would have searched his conscience (if he has one), BEFORE he signed on the dotted line with McCain's campaign. Like I said...good riddance.
Oh gawwd! Where's the Tylenol?!?
February 15, 2008 - 22:24 ET by drillanwrI am beginning to think two things:
1) McCain is a Clinton plant to pull voters over to Hillary against B. Hussein O. and
2) I may join Ann Coulter in supporting Hillary
COME ON, JOHN! I know your back was broken in Vietnam ... but you still have a backbone! USE IT!!!
Geez! I don't know if I'll be homicidal or suicidal come the November elections!
When you men get home and face an anti-war protestor, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she’s dating a pussy… ~ Attributed to General Tommy Franks
McCain himself has obvious
February 15, 2008 - 22:44 ET by HumanEventsMcCain himself has obvious divided loyalties. That's the point. He's a RINO and a horrible candidate. There's going to keep being disgusting things about him and his advisers coming out all the time. The only defense of this man will be to keep saying, "But he's better than Hillary or Obama."
Boy if Hillary is the nominee I just can't wait till she and McCain "debate" each other. Won't it be nice to see him compliment her time and time again? Oh but I guess an admirer of Hillary is better than Hillary herself. Yippee.
McCain Happens
Hillary Happens
Yup and
February 16, 2008 - 00:34 ET by IamTinmanWe're going to have to clean up after either one of them!
I'll give McCain the benefit of the doubt here.
February 15, 2008 - 22:50 ET by R D HelmPerhaps this is just a manifestation of McCain's famous "sense of humor," and this guy is going to be given his walking papers once McCain has secured the nomination.
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
I wonder what McKinnon is
February 15, 2008 - 23:00 ET by HumanEventsI wonder what McKinnon is worried about anyway. Why would McCain's scampaign "inevitably attack Barack Obama"? McCain never met a Democrat he didn't like. Plus, regarding the Dragon Lady McCain has said he'll "respect Hillary." He said, "If people think indulging in personal attacks and disparaging people's character is the way to get the nomination then I am not the guy." He was rebuking Mitt and Rudy for saying things like Hillary is a socialist, can't be trusted, and flip flops more times than can be counted. Oooh those are such mean personal attacks!
So if McCain will continue to fawn all over the she-devil, why not also Obama? So relax, McKinnon. John will say Obama would make a good president too.
There's no need to demonize Obama
February 16, 2008 - 13:34 ET by IamTinmanFor a congressperson he seems like an earnest, honest young man. The reasons for not voting for him are because he is wrong, not because he is a bad person!
1.) His "all you need is hope" campaign assumes that the other countries of the world have our best interests at heart and that just ain't so.
2.) If you go to his website, you will see plans for the most massive increase in federal government spending in history, without a word about where the money is going to come from. When you see that kind of rhetoric in a campaign it's not hard to figure out who's gonna get hosed!
Many if not most of the Obama supporters are following him based on emotion not logic and you won't be able to dissuade them with vitriol. ( I speak from having 3 daughters, all Obama supporters)
Right Tinman
February 16, 2008 - 13:46 ET by Cool ArrowHe honestly and earnestly believes in a doctor's right kill babies after they are born.
You're right, there's no reason for us to demonize him.
♣ a seal
Cool Arrow, I'm sorry
February 16, 2008 - 16:32 ET by IamTinmanI'm sorry that you chose to reference such a slanted and biased article when as you know the purpose of NB is to expose that same bias.
Try Emailing his campaign to find out what he really says instead of referencing someone with such an obvious axe to grind.
Your comments are usually worth thinking about. This one was beneath you.
I won't be voting for Barack in Nov but it will be because I disagree with him not hate him. That would be very unchristian on my part.
Goner
February 15, 2008 - 23:03 ET by rammingspeedMcKinnon will be gone. He will leave of his own volition, because Obama WILL be criticized; it will come from the Right and the Republican party, at the very least, and will therefor be presumed to come from McCain. It can't be avoided.
McCain will criticize his opponents, make no mistake of that. It's just that too many of his opponents until now have been on the right. But he's ambitious and he wants to be president. Never underestimate the will and tactics of the power hungry.
Racism...
February 15, 2008 - 23:20 ET by Clear thinkerAnd that criticism is what's going to help Obama win the WH.
Before you jump me, hear me out. No matter what the criticism or the argument coming from the McCain camp towards Obama, the media and the loony left will be screaming 'racism' every damn time. And, they will get away with it. McCain will end up having to go so soft on Obama that people will wonder if he's still running.
Set the GOP back on the right course. http://gopteaparty.com/
re:racism...
February 15, 2008 - 23:26 ET by PrairieSkyI hope you're wrong about this, but I fear that you may be right. One would like to think that we have all evolved beyond that type of garbage tactic in American politics, but I'm not sure we have.
PS... C'mon, we are
February 15, 2008 - 23:29 ET by Clear thinkerPS...
C'mon, we are talking abot the MSM and the loony left. Do you really expect them to be civil about this?
Set the GOP back on the right course. http://gopteaparty.com/
CT...
February 15, 2008 - 23:37 ET by PrairieSkyRight you are...No, I don't expect civility...More's the pity. But hope does spring eternal...
Someone has to say it
February 15, 2008 - 23:05 ET by owlpelletsI now think I know who his running mate should be
I always wanted to get into politics, but I was never light enough to make the team.
re:someone...
February 15, 2008 - 23:09 ET by PrairieSkyOkay...I'll play-Who?
so, why does mccain want to run for president if he won't ...
February 15, 2008 - 23:44 ET by pmohbuckfight for it? the media is always saying how negativity in campaigns doesn't work, but past history shows that a candidate's inability to fight for the job hurts more. i never would have thought bush would beat kerry (i've never, ever seen such hatred for a sitting President as i've seen since 2000), yet out come the veterans for truth and down goes kerry.
mccain had better focus on obama's lack of a sound plan, political inexperience and his stupid comments (like invading pakistan) ... if he plays it safe, he's going to lose ... bush 41 obviously didn't take clinton seriously and look what happened.
and i don't really care about hardcore conservatives' opinions ... rush, hannity and the bunch will not be financially affected by an obama or hillary white house ... they will thrive. it's the rest of us that will get killed by tax increases (and probably terrorism) ... we will be the ones who will get pulled out of iraq, but sent into darfur (and if obama gets his wish, pakistan).
i'm disappointed in the fact that before the nomination is even won, mccain has a staffer who is afraid to fight the battle ahead. i hope mccain fires him ... i desperately want a republican to stay in the white house. a dem president, house and senate is not something our country can put up with for 4 years (or more), regardless what the talking heads say.
re: won't fight for it...
February 15, 2008 - 23:55 ET by PrairieSkyIn general, I agree with the spirit of most of what you said. However, I do think it is possible to fight for the WH without having to get down in the gutter in order to win. The trick for McCain and Co., is going to be how to point out and capitalize on Obama's (if he's the nominee) weaknesses, (ie. inexperience, NO plans that I have seen or heard, etc.) strenuously enough without the MSM and the Libs playing the race card.
Tactics
February 15, 2008 - 23:59 ET by Lame CherryThe last thing John McCain should do is fire this frumpy greaser, but instead sign him to an exclusive contract.
The reason is simple, that way the greaser wacko can not go help the GOB group of Gore, Obama and Bloomberg.
From what I have seen of Wacko Marko his work has not been that inspired as any fool can run a campaign against Obama.
Rule 1: America rejected Hillarycare, now we have Obamacare not for Americans but at 1 trillion dollars for the world.
Rule 2: Brother can you spare an underhanded kick back off a housing sale WHEN A MILLION AMERICANS ARE IN DANGER OF LOOSING THEIR HOMES.
Rule 3: Little girl singing picking petals off a daisy in 1960 and a nuke goes off.....in the cloud we see Barak Obama's infamous face with his infamous pledge to nuke Pakistan.
Narrator says, "Senator Obama, Pakistan is an ally of America".
That took me by God's inspiration 1 minute to come up with a startegy to have Obama get about 15% of the vote.
McCain just needs Conservatives who know how to win and a Conservative on the ticket.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
A confession
February 16, 2008 - 00:25 ET by soosanPlease don't be upset with me but I actually heard this interview live while on my daily commute....
The guy was very sincere. He told them when they hired him that he wanted to opt out of a Barack fight later on - they accepted his condition/skills and he apparently did a good job. McCain needs to thank him, give him a big chunk of extra change to not work for the Obama campaign, (these kinds of agreements happen all the time) and send him packing.
It was the host who brought up the subject, and to her credit, she went right after him - it was a great shot on her part - a good old fashioned blind side attack - he survived the interview but I doubt he'll survive with McCain. McCain doesn't seem like the type to accept anyone who's not 100% committed.
Am I the only one who is noticing that McCain suits are all starting to look extra baggy?
P. S. I might listen to NPR/WPR once in a while but I never miss NB. (I can't be cancelled for that can I?)
P.S.S. McCain is in our neighborhood this weekend and he reminded us all of Vietnam again today. Thanks John.
There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See
February 16, 2008 - 00:41 ET by CGattonFor years we have been aware of BDS, that typically liberal viral infection that cause grown men to weep and pull out their hair at the mere mention of the President's name. Alas, it appears to have mutated, much like the flu virus, and there are reports coming in from outside sources of a particularly virulent strain making its appearance in the American conservative blogosphere. Tagged MDS, it seems to affect those conservatives who are exceptionally rigid and inflexible, clouding their minds, their sight, and their common sense. On newsbusters.org, the effect has been startling, even showing up as the very thing about which the site purportedly tries to warn others, namely biased reporting.
Good lord, people...WAKE UP! Whichever NB staffer posted this article and question should have at least had the intellectual honesty to give all the facts, rather than those designed to draw out those suffering most severely from MDS. Let's complete the thoughts of McKinnon, shall we. '...while he disagrees with Obama on fundamental issues, he likes him a great deal...he will still support McCain — only not as the chief media advisor...'
What is McKinnon's job? All together now - "HEAD MEDIA ADVISOR!" Assuming Obama is the eventual democrat nominee, McKinnon's job would be to get those media reports/ads/infomercials out there that will place McCain in the best possible light, while portraying Obama in the worst possible light. Personally, I like Joe Lieberman, but I wouldn't vote for him for president. However, I wouldn't want to try to co-ordinate a media campaign on McCain's behalf that had to malign and belittle him. My heart wouldn't be in it, and I would do a dis-service to the man who is counting on me to be a focused attack dog. Far better that I tell him up front that should such a thing be necessary, I would request to be replaced.
I suppose it is possible that some of the other motives atttributed to McKinnon in this thread are actually his - but I hope not, and so far have seen no indication that such is the case. All I see is a man who has tried his best to help McCain, is (obviously from the data so far) doing a good job as media advisor, and who has notified his boss of a potential personal conflict that may in the future prevent him from doing his best. How can you have a problem with that? Most managers I know would relish having such an employee, yet there are darned few of them.
Why are there so few? Well, consider what the typical reaction has been here.
"...I can't imagine keeping this yutz on the payroll..."
"...Why should he keep his job if he's not willing to go the whole way?..."
"...McKinnon was a questionable hire..."
Those are typical comments about any employee in these circumstances. Rather than looking at him, and saying, "thanks for the heads up. Let's get someone ready to take your place should it become necessary," it's "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!" Give the man a break, and let's be honest here.
The real problem isn't what happened, it isn't really about Mark McKinnon at all. If all of you here treat your employees the way you're screaming for him to be treated, your businesses deserve to sink. No, what you saw here was another chance to vent your displeasure with John McCain, and no facts are going to stand in your way. MDS rears its ugly head, and you're all off like a liberal pack of wolves.
Shoot, I talk too much. In response to the original question, "...would you fire this man immediately ..." my answer would be no. Rather I would thank him for letting me know in advance that I might have to replace him.
"...Can't I enjoy my martini ..."
Sorry, Noel - isn't going to happen, lol. While Chivas is my drink of choice, I'm not at all adverse to a good single malt. Haven't had a good martinin in about 40 years - just hang out with the wrong crowd, I guess.
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
Well, Clyde
February 16, 2008 - 00:55 ET by BlondeI see you are truly back! And glad of it.
The whole employer/employee discussion is kind of odd...particularly framed in the campaign thing. As we all know, politics make strange bedfellows. And this (a B. Hussein admirer on McCain's staff) seems odd, indeed.
Having said that tho, I'm sure EVERY ONE of these political consultants is vastly overpaid. Hell, I've begun watching MSNBC (Yikes!!!)....Morning Joe, and although the reason I began watching it was to see Joe slap down the liberal twit Mika....I've come to appreciate the political commentary. If you can overlook the "who", it's pretty much spot-on. B. Hussein, McCain, and Her Highness could probably get better advice in the 7 - 9 a.m. hour than they do from these paid "pols".
So a minor whoopsee in John McCain's staff has nothing on the major whoopsee that Hillary fired her Latina campaign chair for a black campaign chair. Hmmmm.....but what gets played up in the media? "McCain staffer for Obama". In kleig lights.
It's all politics. It's all dirty. And the MsM is the shark pack, waiting in the murky water for the feeding frenzy to begin.
Theatre of the absurd.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Made Sense At the Tme, LOL
February 16, 2008 - 01:15 ET by CGatton:...whole employer/employee discussion is kind of odd..."
Given the original question, which was about firing an employee, I thought it made perfect sense to go that route. I've had several bosses over the years that were exactly what I describe. You didn't dare tell them you were leaving, for any reason, until you were walking out the door for the final time. They took it as a lack of loyalty, when in many cases it was actually loyalty to the brand that made the person leave.
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
Clyde
February 16, 2008 - 01:27 ET by botgover time
and time
and time
again
why does John need to woo conservatives????
As I've said if we can be assured of constructionist SCOTUS appointments i can overlook John being a liberal. Can we be assured when John says Alito is too conservative????
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Precisely, Clyde
February 16, 2008 - 01:32 ET by BlondeIf I wanted to leave my job, I wouldn't telegraph it to my boss a month ahead of time. I'd get my seabag in order, and then hand in my resignation.
On the same token, when someone hands me their letter of resignation, I say "thank you very much", escort them to their desk, and help them pack. And have security escort them to the door. And then I tell them I'll be happy to pay them for their unworked time. Sayonara, baby.
It's the prudent thing to do.
Having said that, if I were McCain, I'd have fired this man as soon as he floated his doubts.
But what can I say? I have a kind of reputation.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Now My 11 Year Old Wants To Know Why I'm Laughing
February 16, 2008 - 01:36 ET by CGattonLOL
Blonde, are you sure I didn't work for you sometime, somewhere? ..and quit?
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
Don't think so, Clyde
February 16, 2008 - 01:39 ET by BlondeI never did nucs.
Just haul trash....LOL.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
CGatton, I appreciate your position. However....
February 16, 2008 - 00:56 ET by R D Helm....betwixt sips on the CR (good stuff, to be sure), perhaps you might take a moment and ponder this.
(h/t: botg)
Bottoms up. :-)
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
RD
February 16, 2008 - 01:11 ET by botgthe H/T is to C5then i just brought it to the top
it is a scary look into McCains mindset
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
botg,
February 16, 2008 - 01:34 ET by R D HelmAnd a big tip 'o the hat to c5, too. (sorry, I meant to credit him as well).
The only thing missing from those damning (sorry) videos were the Mussolini "black shirts" and their wooden clubs, beating the hapless questioners into submission.
I am sorry, but, as a libertarian who values freedom above all else, I cannot justify in any way the actions of McCain, nor his RINO flacks in the audience.
God, this is all beginning to remind me of early 20th Century Europe, which is something I know more than just a little about.
Perhaps McCain-Feingold was just the beginning. Are we now witnessing the rise of John McHitler?
-And for those of you that think I am way out of line here, go back and view some of the videos from the political meetings that took place in Germany and Italy in the 1920's and 1930's. Sorry, but the resemblance is just a little disconcerting to me.
Smile. It is not the end of the world.
re:CGatton-There are none so blind...
February 16, 2008 - 01:25 ET by PrairieSkyOkay..Where do I start? First-If what McKinnon said is true, and he told the McCain campaign from the beginning that he didn't want to be involved in a fight against Obama, then fine. I'm sure there are many of us that weren't aware of that. I hadn't heard that anywhere, and I'm a news junkie. I still think it's a weenie thing to do. Knowing his issues about going up against Obama, I do think he was a questionable hire, and would let him go. Second-Please don't include me in with those who have been and still are against McCain, and have said that they won't vote for him. If you have read any of my posts, you will find that that is not true in my case. Quite the opposite...I have had many exchanges with others here at NB trying to get them to see that a McCain nomination will not be the end of the world as we know it. While I admit he was not my first choice, and I have strongly disagreed with McCain on several issues, I have said very plainly that I believe that he is now the Republicans' best candidate to go up against the Dems. I will, with some reservations, vote for him in November.
Guess I Did Lump You All Together
February 16, 2008 - 01:28 ET by CGattonPraire,
My apologies for lumping everyone in the WDS infected camp. I was replying to the original question from the perspective of having been an employee working for people who act like what the predominant responses call for on the thread, and from the perspective of the employer who has been privileged to have employees give me warning so I could replace them in a controlled manner. To me, this whole thing is just that, an employer/employee relationship issue, and as far as I am concerned, civility and straight-forwardness are of paramount importance.
To that effect, I simply grabbed comments that were, in my mind, on the wrong side of civil business relationships. So, thanks for reminding me that not all who see things in that light are necessarily suffering from MDS. :o)
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
re:CGatton-Guess I did...
February 16, 2008 - 01:40 ET by PrairieSkyThanks... I appreciate that and apology accepted. And btw, I agree with your position as it relates to business relationships (really, all relationships). As it relates to politics, in addition, I personally just would hope for and expect more in the way of loyalty and a committment, but that's me!
"notified his boss of a potential personal conflict"
February 16, 2008 - 02:22 ET by DelsaOh really?
Some notification!
If he were my employee he'd be gone yesterday.
Notify the boss? Well and good. Notify the public? Not so good.
Negative against OB? Pointing out his socialist policies? Reasonable.
Going Racist? Not so reasonable.
If McCain does anything other than point out the policy flaws of OB, he loses.
Delsa, I think the $64,000 question is....
February 16, 2008 - 02:52 ET by R D HelmWhy did the "conservative" McCain hire this clown in the first place?
Smile. It is not the end of the world. Then again.....
$64,000 question
February 16, 2008 - 15:37 ET by DelsaWell my guess is McCain hired the "Clown" because He, McCain, is a brilliant tactician and he planned all of this?
What do you think? Do I have something or what?
Mark McKinnon is free to
February 16, 2008 - 02:40 ET by stratmanMark McKinnon is free to work as he pleases in accordance with contractual agreements.
What I find distasteful is that McKinnon aired this in public knowing damn full well that his words and actions will be used to the detriment of John McCain. As if Democrats need more quotes about Republicans "attacking" them! This remark helps to emasculate the McCain general election campaign strategy before it gets off the ground.
Vote for whomever you like Mark. Work for whomever you'd like. But keep your yapper shut when it comes to betraying your employer, at least while still in their employ.
McCain is a numbskull for not contractually gagging McKinnon given the advance warning.
Based upon this public airing of crossed political allegiance, I would fire McKinnon ASAP and take him to court for breach of his fiduciary responsibility to McCain's campaign if he retaliates or pouts (based on what I've read here).
I don't care how nice a guy or how talented McKinnon is, he just gave a gift to the Dems that will keep on giving till November 2008. Retaining McKinnon as an active member of the team after this revelation would further paint McCain as weak and incompetent.
McCain played with fire and got burned. Dumbass!
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
re: McKinnon is free...
February 16, 2008 - 03:01 ET by PrairieSkyGood point...One wonders if McCain knew that McKinnon would go public with this piece of information. If he did, you're right...What was McCain thinking? Didn't he consider the way that this revelation might be received? Not the wisest move in the world...
PS, click on the link in my post just above srats' comment.
February 16, 2008 - 03:15 ET by R D HelmThat should just about cover it.
Smile. It is not the end of the world. Then again.....
RD: The article you
February 16, 2008 - 04:08 ET by stratmanRD:
The article you linked is mind blowing.
McKinnon stated he would not work against Obama way back in June 8, 2007. But he'll still vote for McCain? While McKinnon is comfortable prostituting himself for dollars to those he is unable to give 100% of his efforts, others remained truer to their principles:
And prostitutes only let their pimps kiss them on the lips. I'm thinking that there's a lot of peer pressure and future financial risk for McKinnon if he works against Obama in the general election.
The truly revolting information was about McCain's self-promotional political ties to George Soros and the Tide's Foundation:
If this was more widely publicized a month ago, would McCain be the frontrunner today?
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
strat, I hope U noticed the real Juan behind McKinnon in pic.
February 16, 2008 - 04:46 ET by R D HelmIn my considered opinion, McCain the "conservative" is a total and complete scam.
Screwed forwards, backwards, inside-out, upside-down, and any other which way we have been.
As I see it, we who truly love our country have less than nine months to straighten this insanity out. Else we are forked.
It is just that simple.
Smile. It is not the end of the world. Then again.....
&darn it, s, I promised Noel I would behave in this thread, too!
February 16, 2008 - 05:32 ET by R D HelmI certainly hope he doesn't consider me a liar. :-(
Smile. It is not the end of the world. Then again.....
R D Helm..
February 16, 2008 - 14:32 ET by PrairieSkyThanks for the info...all of it is troubling. As far as McKinnon goes, I can't imagine why the decision was made to hire this guy, aside from the belief (I guess), that he was good at his job, and was therefore useful to the campaign. Even with that considered, I would never have hired McKinnon...way too much baggage attached. This was unbelievably bad judgement, to say the least.
Someone should tell Mark
February 16, 2008 - 02:54 ET by maggieqpublicSomeone should tell Mark McKinnon that John McCain started attacking Obama about one year ago…
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/02/an_outraged_sen.html
Won't campaign against
February 16, 2008 - 03:38 ET by ConservativeRexWon't campaign against him? Why the hell are you still on the pay roll? Why in the world would you have a hard time attacking Barry?
That Juan would have someone such as this man on his payroll is no surprise. Juan, you lay down with Democrats and you get fleas buddy.
Someone asked if he may be worried about a race war. Why the hell would anybody be worried about such a thing?
How to fire him
February 16, 2008 - 07:38 ET by Gat New YorkIf I were John McCain I would not make it a public execution.
Instead I would fly into Austin, Texas - the home office of Public Strategies (or whatever of his offices McKinnon happens to be in) - completely unannounced - walk into his office - sit down in front of him and say "You're fired you self-righteous SOB."
The media and the left
February 16, 2008 - 10:58 ET by JerryThe media and the left pulled this same stunt before Clinton's re-election campaign. The MSM had story after story and poll after poll that the American public did not want to see a negative campaign, and whatever happens, "you better not go negative". Why? Because their man had SOOO many easily attackable negatives it wasn't even funny. Unfortunately, the Dole/Kemp campaign fell for it and stayed above the fray.
Well, there has not been a candidate with more negatives than Hussein Obama in a long time, from his TOTAL lack of experience, to his Hussein/Muslim ties, to his refussal to wear an American flag pin, to his castigation of those who wore pins as hypocrites, to his failure to place his hand over his heart during the pledge, to his "Che Guevara" supporters, to his "globalist" agenda, to his "make nice with the bad guys" attitude. Let's don't fall for it again fellows.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
If I were McCain?
February 16, 2008 - 12:16 ET by needle“If you were McCain, …”
Sorry, the premise is beyond my comprehension.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
It's obvious that this guy is pro-Obama
February 16, 2008 - 12:46 ET by c5thenMcCain would have us beleive that he is a conservative, yet he hires as a senior advisor a democrat who is now obviously pro-Obama?
It's looking like this guy took the MCain job in order to derail Hillary's nomination hopes. Now that his true candidate is looking like he's going to win the Democratic nomination, he will back out of the McCain campaign because his job is accopmplished.
I wonder how McCain feels knowing that he's been a tool that the democrats have successfully used to get their new star a real shot at the Whitehouse?
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.