From the AP moments ago (video of FNC's Bill Kristol predicting this two days ago available here courtesy our friend Johnny $):
John McCain effectively sealed the Republican presidential nomination on Thursday as chief rival Mitt Romney suspended his faltering presidential campaign."If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney will say at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.
"This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose. My family, my friends and our supporters... many of you right here in this room... have given a great deal to get me where I have a shot at becoming President. If this were only about me, I would go on. But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America, I feel I must now stand aside, for our party and for our country," Romney said.
Thoughts?
*****Update: Karl Rove gave McCain advice today -- via Fox Radio's "Kilmeade and the Judge") -- as to what to say to CPAC (audio available here courtesy Johnny $).
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February 7, 2008 - 14:09 ET by USA4freedomSee below..........\/
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
way to block there,
February 7, 2008 - 14:24 ET by USA4freedomway to block there, suckabee.
I'm sure a lot of us will not forget.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
USA4freedom
February 7, 2008 - 14:25 ET by candanceBecause of this I will never vote for Huckabee. Not in the rest of my life. He can take his 30 pieces of silver and go away.
The Republican Party that we grew up with is dead!
February 7, 2008 - 18:23 ET by jefflebowskiThere needs to be a total cleansing of RINO's. I WILL NOT EVER VOTE FOR A RINO!!! I choose to excercise my right not to kill myself by perpetuating the road that the Republican party has been on for years. No more Frists, Lotts, Lindsey Grahams, Olivia Snowes, McPain, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Arlen Specter and numerous other wussies who have betrayed Conservatives. It is time for them to go!!! I will suffer out a Jimmy Carter 4 years with Clinton, Obama or McCain but will not help them by my vote.
Republicans had their chance and blew it with the biggest disappointment of a President that I have ever seen and a spend-thrift Congress who was scared to death to stand up to the demonrats and their RINO ilk friends listed above. They Republican National party can kiss my a#$!
Mitt was our only chance and now he is gone. Maybe in 4 years some real Conservatives will emerge and correct the madness of a Hildebeast or Osama Obama presidency.
One of Mitt's best speeches
February 7, 2008 - 14:10 ET by Jack BauerOne of Mitt's best speeches by the sound of it. Totally fired up, but six months too late.
Pitch for VP slot?
Jack, If I was Mitt,
February 7, 2008 - 14:13 ET by LeonJack,
If I was Mitt, seeing all this hate against McCain, I'm not sure that I'd want to be his VP. Especially considering that McCain could feasibly make some non-conservative moves while in office.
It might serve Mitt better to just hold out until the next election.
If I was the RNC, I'd be pushing for McCain/Huckabee. Then if things go wrong, you can just blame the liberal and the wacko Christian.
It's not "hate" against
February 7, 2008 - 14:21 ET by mattmIt's not "hate" against McCain. It's opposition to his policy positions. What is so fricking hard for you to understand about that? (Actually I think you do understand, but you're just flamethrowing again)
Huck as VP?
February 7, 2008 - 14:24 ET by mustangsallyI'd really enjoy watching Mike Huckabee debate against Hillary Clinton. He would smear her like cream cheese on a big NY bagel - and never stop smiling while he was doing it ... Even Bill would enjoy Ms. Smarmy-pants getting a Southern Whoopin'!!
I would LOVE to see Huckabee
February 7, 2008 - 16:35 ET by LilyPearlI would LOVE to see Huckabee debate Hillary. That would be almost as good as ice cream.
well if Romney doesn't want
February 7, 2008 - 14:18 ET by TruthMongerwell if Romney doesn't want Prez, I feel like voting Obama - can't posibly vote for McCain or Hillary...
Looks like McCain might be inevitable? Oh well, conservatives can always use another "bad example" in the long run:)...
People with your reasoning
February 7, 2008 - 16:37 ET by LilyPearlPeople with your reasoning make no sense to me. So you are saying you would rather vote pro abortion than anti abortion? McCain is my least favorite after Rudy, but he is anti abortion and that puts him far and above any of the Democrats.
Lily, that's a nice thought,
February 7, 2008 - 17:18 ET by motherbeltLily, that's a nice thought, but when you come down to it, the President can't do a thing about abortion: it's not something that can be dealt with by executive order. Even if he appointed a couple of judges willing to overturn Roe v. Wade, and if it were overturned, it wouldn't outlaw abortion, as abortion advocates fear; it would just throw the issue back to individual states.
MB
February 7, 2008 - 17:52 ET by Noel SheppardMB,
I agree. However, it seems to me pro-Life conservatives should be behind McCain over Hillary and Obama just for that reason. After all, for 24 years, this issue has indeed been fought at the SCOTUS level.
As Stevens will likely retire soon, and Ginsburg has hinted at such, wouldn't you rather have McCain nominating replacements for these two rather than Obama or Clinton?
I'm sorry, folks, but this seems a slam-dunk! ns
Noel,I'm upset and
February 7, 2008 - 18:10 ET by Chris NormanNoel,
I agree. I'm upset and disappointed as anyone else here, but I fail to see how electing a Democrat's going to make things better. In my view, there was simply no conservative in the race who had the power and organization to win the nomination. It's a terrible shame, but to blame the party for our lack of a strong candidate seems to me to be totally misdirected. Plus, I don't understand how leaving the table is going to increase conservative influence in the GOP. I hope a lot of people will, in time, have second thoughts about what they're now talking about doing.
McCain Roe
February 7, 2008 - 19:00 ET by Clear thinkerMcCain Roe v Wade...
In August 1999, McCain told the San Francisco Chronicle that he would "not support repeal of Roe vs Wade" because it would force women to undergo illegal operations. He has subsequently said that he was speaking about the need to change the "culture of America", and supports the repeal of Roe vs Wade.
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
there is no way to justify
February 7, 2008 - 19:35 ET by TruthMongerthere is no way to justify faith in McCain's support of ANY conservative value - including pro-life...
he always betrays conservatives...
that's not my fault...
nothing he says can be trusted...
Noel, That is THE only thing
February 7, 2008 - 18:07 ET by USA4freedomNoel,
That is THE only thing that makes me pause. But I am so unsure about Mc Cain, (whom has shown, he does not give a dam what we think), in fact he seems to relish the fact he flips us the finger all the time. Would the Republicans that were left inthe House and Senate fight harder against a Democratic president rather then a Democratic wrapped in a Republican coat?
I keep seeing our party push to the left. The Republican party would be left of the Democratic party of the 1950’s and 60’s.
Somewhere we (the conservative base) have to draw a line in the sand, and say: not another inch.
If not we (and our country) keep sliding down the slippery slope to Europe lite.
If he gets crushed in the primary, he will be a head case when he goes back to the Senate.
Off the subject, how did the track met go?
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
USA
February 7, 2008 - 18:35 ET by Noel SheppardUSA,
Third most amazing day of my life. I'm still tingling. That's BIG TIME TRACK, baby. Just awesome. Already scheduling my next trip. Thanks for asking. ns
The third huh? I bet the
February 7, 2008 - 18:58 ET by USA4freedomThe third huh?
I bet the birth was a top three huh? I know it was with me, to watch you children being born, amazing. Now grown up, my son calls every other night unless the Redskins are playing then we talk through the whole game, my daughter who just got engaged, in Ireland and called last night.
Then you think, how could anyone abort a baby. A life snuffed out before it starts. With all the possibilities, the laughter and tears. The soccer games, track, and all the good and the problems, that you would not change for the world. I am looking for grandkids now, that will be something.
Have to go time for dinner.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
USA
February 7, 2008 - 20:12 ET by Noel SheppardUSA,
First was his birth. Second was my daughter's. Might seem strange, but third was this past Saturday at the Devaney Center in Lincoln, Nebraska. I can't possibly explain the emotions that welled up in me that afternoon, and still are. Maybe this will help: http://media.www.dai...
ns
Wow, that is very cool To
February 7, 2008 - 23:27 ET by USA4freedomWow, that is very cool
To compete at the collage div. 1 is some talent.
Both of my kids were soccer kids. My son made all state 2nd team as a keeper (he normaly played the field but the keeper got hurt early in the season) They got to the states, a ball bounced off of somebodys knee and scored on him, he was chrushed. It was the only score, they lost. My daughter made all county. It was a pure joy to watch them play.
When I see the sacrifices of our men and women in the military, I could not even think of how it would be to loose them. It would crush me. They are hero’s in the highest order.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Activist left should support McCain over abortion...
February 7, 2008 - 18:20 ET by Gary HallSeriously folks. The humanitarian pro-human rights activist left should support any candidate that is anti-abortion. They, especially the Hollywood variety, feel a very warm personal spiritual connection to the "don't harm life" precepts of Zen Buddhism. The much loved and widely respected Dalai Lama, as well as other Buddhist leaders, has a very simplistic approach to the subject of abortion. It is seen as a premeditated taking of a life - a living being. Killing. Rhetorically put, why would the left not run to that view?
After all, they supported Jimmy Carter, who is staunchly opposed to abortion, and they would support him again in a second's notice.
Pro-lifers are going with Huckabee
February 7, 2008 - 19:31 ET by BritcomBecause history says he (a Governor) will win if nominated against a Senator. NO Senator has defeated a Governor in the GE in the last 100 years.
Plus, Huckabee's pro-life credentials are impeccable.
McCain? Lukewarm.
huck would solidly lose the
February 7, 2008 - 19:40 ET by TruthMongeri'm not - huck would solidly lose the GE - he's way too strange for the swing voters
Well with Romney out, it's
February 7, 2008 - 19:49 ET by motherbeltWell with Romney out, it's going to be Senator against Senator anyway. Because I don't see any way Huckabee is coming out of this with the nomination.
With Romney out I don't see how Huckabee can lose
February 7, 2008 - 20:11 ET by BritcomHuckabee is clearly on the way to locking up the south including Texas. Most of the states that McCain got are Blue states that will go to the Dems anyway. Romney's delegates can choose either McCain or Huckabee (or Paul) at the convention. The remaining states are Huckabees now anyway. He can win and he can put hillary in her place with a smile. You haven't seen that part yet, you are gonna love it.
Swing voters will not vote
February 7, 2008 - 20:21 ET by TruthMongerSwing voters will not vote for him over Obama
must have swing voters
Huckabee has his own swing voters
February 7, 2008 - 20:35 ET by BritcomRemember Katrina. Huckabee opened up his state and his treasury for them while FEMA fiddled. Most of the those evacuees were black. Huckabee can win black votes in the South where most black voters live.
Many black voters in the South can't identify with a half-black democrat who is from the north and has no roots in the South and can't relate to descendants of slavery.
Obama's mother was white, and his father was black (but not American); he was Kenyan.
Britcom... Reading your
February 7, 2008 - 20:23 ET by Clear thinkerBritcom...
Reading your post brought a very disturbing picture to mind. Having to choose between Huckabee and McCain is like wondering which weapon to use to commit suicide with, Pistol or Shotgun?
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Pistol or Shotgun?
February 7, 2008 - 20:30 ET by DelsaClear thinker you are too funny. I have the flu, feel like crap, and you made me laugh.
thank you
Actually...
February 7, 2008 - 20:44 ET by BritcomI prefer to think of McCain as a loose cannon with a double charge of powder. If he doesn't punch a hole in the ship, he is gonna blow a hole through it.
Delsa... Your more than
February 7, 2008 - 20:59 ET by Clear thinkerDelsa...
Your more than welcome!
Hope you feel better soon.
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Choose yer weapon...
February 7, 2008 - 20:40 ET by BritcomCause the Dems aren't gonna let you just die, they are gonna gut ya first.
MB,
February 7, 2008 - 19:54 ET by motherbeltMB,
I agree. However, it seems to me pro-Life conservatives should be
behind McCain over Hillary and Obama just for that reason. After all,
for 24 years, this issue has indeed been fought at the SCOTUS level. -Noel Sheppard
Noel, I've said this before: My biggest fear is McCain's habit of "reaching across the aisle." In SCOTUS nominations, that could mean allowing Democrats some say, and allowing Pat Leahy and Chuck Schumer to send him a list of "acceptable" or "confirmable" (or, perish forbid) "consensus" candidates.
However, you're right; Clinton or Obama picks would definitely be worse. With McCain there would at least be a chance of a constructionist.
Curse you, Red Baron!!! Why'd you have to go and appeal to my reasonable side!!! LOL
Now I really have something to think about. Who knows, McCain may grow just enough to make it possible for me to pull the lever for him...Well he's got months to do it.
MB
February 7, 2008 - 21:02 ET by Noel SheppardMB,
As you know, logic is my strong suit. Always has been.
Billary and Barack are the enemy, NOT McCain. We let either of these wolves into the henhouse, and we'll all starve. ns
Noel... All 3 are bad for
February 7, 2008 - 21:06 ET by Clear thinkerNoel...
All 3 are bad for us. They each have their own style of bad, but bad nonetheless.
Prediction... If Obama get's the Dem nomination, McCain will have to pick a black VP.
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
obama and hillary have
February 7, 2008 - 21:10 ET by TruthMongerobama and hillary have never politically betrayed me NUMEROUS times, that puts them well above McCain in my book
CT
February 7, 2008 - 21:18 ET by Noel SheppardCT,
Stop it. McCain might not be your cup of tea, but he's not hemlock.
This is politics, my friend. The primaries are over. The more conservative candidates that you and I both would have preferred are gone. Now, it's about which of those still standing are better. Period.
Why are people in our Party sudddenly forgetting how this works? Honestly? Our candidates didn't win. Get over it. We move on, and try to do what's best for the nation regardless of OUR PERSONAL DESIRES.
That's what patriotism means. Why are so many in my Party forgetting this?
At the end of the day, if McCain is our nominee, he's MUCH better than Hillary and Barack. And those that don't see it need an optometrist...quickly!!!! ns
Noel...I hate to disagree
February 7, 2008 - 21:23 ET by LionKingNoel, you seem stuck on the 2 party system. The Pubs are not putting up a conservative. That's fine.
As a conservative, I need to vote for the person/party that represents my best interests. For president, it will not be either of the major parties.
Too long have we settled. Our Founders never intended for it to be a 2 party system.
LK
February 7, 2008 - 22:37 ET by Noel SheppardLK,
Don't hate to disagree. Relish it, for what I'd like to see here from all NBers is a hearty debate, just without the vitriol and animus we all deplore at other websites.
There are times to vote 3rd Party. I don't think now's the time. Not when we're at war. However, for what it's worth, I will have far more respect for those that vote 3rd Party than those that choose to boycott this election. There are a lot of things to boycott on principle; elections aren't among them. ns
Who are you going to vote
February 8, 2008 - 21:21 ET by general companyWho are you going to vote for in a third party? I agree with Noel, those whom feel like none are worthy of their vote, need to take a good look at the ones that will benifit from their non participation the most. BTW, for now, a third party vote = none paticipation
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
Romney's out...
February 7, 2008 - 15:25 ET by PrairieSkyI totally agree...this was one of his best speeches-maybe the best one I've heard him give..but as you said, just 6 months too late. I think he'd make a good choice for VP. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Stay tuned...
→ From the outset
February 7, 2008 - 14:11 ET by Cool ArrowFrom the outset it was obvious he was dropping out.
He's giving a real speech without all the hedging that has kept him back for too long.
The tipoff was his attack on illigitimacy.
♣ a seal
I guess this means we'll
February 7, 2008 - 14:11 ET by BuffNBoneI guess this means we'll begin to start hearing negative comments about McCain from the MSM.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Not voting for McCain. I
February 7, 2008 - 14:12 ET by jcrapes4Not voting for McCain. I will vote for any repub for Congressional elections but I will not vote for McCain in the general election.
Not voting...
February 7, 2008 - 15:27 ET by PrairieSkySuit yourself...just get used to hearing President Clinton or President Obama for the next 4 years...
I understand his decision
February 7, 2008 - 14:13 ET by candanceIt's his money and his life, so I understand him doing what's best.
Still not voting for McCain.
I wish he would stop
February 7, 2008 - 14:13 ET by Clear thinkerI wish he would stop telling people what a conservative he is. It's just not true!
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
John McCain effectively sealed
February 7, 2008 - 17:56 ET by R D HelmJohn McCain effectively sealed the Republican presidential nomination...
McCain sealed something, alright.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
Looks like we have a choice
February 7, 2008 - 14:16 ET by fosstenLooks like we have a choice between voting for a Democrat or...another Democrat.
I'll stay home, thanks. The country's screwed. I've never truly felt this way before, even when Clinton won, but the Republican party is toast.
Ah, well...
Who is John Galt?
Who is John Galt?
February 7, 2008 - 21:25 ET by jefflebowskiAfter having my vote taken for granted for years by the Republican Party, this Atlas has Shrugged!
There Will Always Be A Taggart To Run The Railroad
February 7, 2008 - 21:40 ET by Free StinkerIf you're ready to shrug, Pledge to not support RINOs ever again
Newsbusters. Log on and find out What the heck is so yummy over here!
DO NOT STAY HOME
February 7, 2008 - 21:29 ET by LionKingDO NOT STAY HOME!!!
Congressional votes are needed. If you don't want to vote for the prez, fine...or better yet, vote 3rd party.
Every vote matters. Soldiers die for our rights and freedom...we should exercise these rights. Make a statement vote, but VOTE!!!
DO NOT STAY HOME
February 7, 2008 - 21:35 ET by DelsaLionKing is correct. Do not stay away from a primary or the General election
We have to make sure we have congressmen and senators who will stop the crazy person elected pres.
We have to make sure the next president does not have a free ride with the left
Romney bows out?Here's a
February 7, 2008 - 14:17 ET by mattmRomney bows out?
Here's a happy couple.
"sigh"
February 7, 2008 - 14:16 ET by jezebelle"sigh"
I'm just glad he didn't
February 7, 2008 - 14:20 ET by motherbeltI'm just glad he didn't actually come out and endorse McCain. I would have lost all respect for him if he had.
As it is, he talked about "the good of the party" which to me is a sidesways way of telling people to unite behind McCain. I wish he hadn't done that.
Rush, a little bit ago, made a couple of great points: he says it's up to McCain to show leadership, not for other Republicans to dutifully line up behind him. And you don't do it by telling those opposed to amnesty that they are racists, and those who opposed McCain-Feingold that they are corrupt, etc.
Let's see if McCain can do that.
I agree with the previous poster: the Republican party is toast. They are now just the slightly- less- socialist wing of the Democrats.
well motherbelt
February 7, 2008 - 14:21 ET by candanceReagan halfheartedly supported Ford in 76 so it's not surprising for Romney to say that now. He probably just wanted to give his fans a good reason for stepping down.
I smell a redo in 2012.
He also mentioned Iraq and
February 7, 2008 - 14:26 ET by motherbeltHe also mentioned Iraq and terrorism, so that's another left-handed wave to McCain.
McCain has some serious grovelling to do, if he ever expects conservatives to support him, even half-heartedly.
I hope you're right about 2012.
call me a whiner but...
February 7, 2008 - 14:28 ET by candanceMcCain has some serious grovelling to do, if he ever expects conservatives to support him
Too little too late for me. I don't care if he swears on a Bible to be Ronald Reagan incarnate. His lies and cheating are not erased by pandering after the fact.
MB, What's with all the
February 7, 2008 - 14:31 ET by LeonMB,
What's with all the long faces around here?
You should be fired up.
McCain was literally the only Republican that has any shot to win the general election.
Now there's at least a chance you will have a Republican president. With any other candidate, it would have been a guaranteed Democratic victory.
consider this leon
February 7, 2008 - 14:38 ET by candanceThere are several people here who live in states that have not even voted yet. They are given no choice. That's democracy at work...
Leon,
February 7, 2008 - 14:40 ET by Hero SquadI don't disagree with your assessment of McCain. Though I think Mitt could've also made a formidable challenger.
If Hillary gets the nod, do you still plan on voting for McCain?
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Hero Squad, Of course.
February 7, 2008 - 14:43 ET by LeonHero Squad,
Of course. I'll never vote for Hillary.
Plus, as I've stated before, I have the utmost respect for McCain.
He's a true hero and he's willing to do what HE thinks is right, not what the howlers on the fringe of the party think is right.
Are you saying I'm not a
February 7, 2008 - 14:50 ET by Hero SquadAre you saying I'm not a true hero? :-)
Which is fine, because I'm not.
But that's one of the things I do respect about McCain, even though some of the things he does makes me go, "Huh?" And since it's one of the reasons I respect Bush (doing what he thinks is right, not what is necessarily popular), it would be somewhat hypocritical of me to not at least respect that quality in other candidates.
Now stop agreeing with me. You're killing my rep.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Leon, McCain has no chance.
February 7, 2008 - 18:01 ET by R D HelmThe MSM will turn on him five minutes after he secures the nomination.
Why do you think they have been so "supportive" of the man?
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
RD, I disagree. As I've
February 7, 2008 - 18:11 ET by LeonRD,
I disagree. As I've said,
1) There's nothing to turn on him about - all of his weaknesses are already public knowledge and have been dragged into the public view ad nauseum.
2) The Newsbusters claim that the MSM is liberal. The Newsbusters also claim that McCain is a liberal. Based on this logic, why would the MSM turn on their own?
3) This perception that the media is THAT biased is insane and not founded in reality.
4) Every available poll shows McCain performing strongly in the general election. Since that's pretty much the best indicator of future results we have right now, I don't see how you can just dismiss them based on nothing more than an extreme paranoia of the MSM
Liberals?
February 7, 2008 - 19:00 ET by BritcomYou are assuming that the media are liberals, they are not, they are Communists working toward Utopia.
Leon,
February 7, 2008 - 19:23 ET by R D HelmThen I guess we will see what we will see.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
McCain is a highly
February 7, 2008 - 21:17 ET by TruthMongerMcCain is a highly useful rino idiot to the MSM - he's a liberal to us - but Obama is much more so
RD, Of course, we'll have
February 8, 2008 - 10:30 ET by LeonRD,
Of course, we'll have to wait and see.
But I don't think we should sell McCain short.
Despite his failures, despite his flip-flops, despite his temper, despite his falling asleep at the SOTU like my grandfather, people still like McCain. I think people trust him.
romney leaving
February 7, 2008 - 14:22 ET by soosansay it ain't so Mitt - a bunch of us in Wisconsin were ready to help.
he woulda been the next
February 7, 2008 - 21:19 ET by TruthMongerhe woulda been the next prez
maybe 2012 - after 4 years of obama
Democrats vs Democrat
February 7, 2008 - 14:19 ET by candanceWhen America has to choose between a Democrat and a Democrat, they always choose the one on the Democrat ticket.
That's right, candance.
February 7, 2008 - 14:23 ET by motherbeltThat's right, candance. Why vote for a Democrat impersonator when you can have the real thing?
I am thoroughly bummed today. I don't think I can ever rally behind John McCain. And if he choosed Huckabee as his VP, all is lost. The Republican party will go the way of the dodo.
same here
February 7, 2008 - 15:07 ET by voodoodaddyI was backing Romney and would probably have held my nose and voted for McCain if he was the nominee solely because I hate just caving in to the other side and I truly believe the other two candidates on the other side would be worse than McCain. BUT if he chooses the Huckster as his trusty sidekick I WILL NOT vote for him. I could not squeeze my nostrils tight enough to do that. I will just stay home.
Score Card
February 7, 2008 - 14:20 ET by drillanwrMSM - 2
Dems - 1
The GOP - 0
The Country - 0
drillanwr
February 7, 2008 - 14:22 ET by candanceIt's more line the country has negative 5
spot
February 7, 2008 - 14:27 ET by USA4freedomspot on.............
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party,the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
OK, I'll bite into the
February 7, 2008 - 14:28 ET by balboaOK, I'll bite into the conspiracy pie: how did the MSM get McCain to the front of the race?
consider this bal
February 7, 2008 - 14:33 ET by candanceMcCain's "victory" in Florida was really him squeaking by with 39%. Go back and look at the record. 39%. That means 60% of the voters down there wanted someone else. But the media blasted it all over the place that McCain was the top dog who was getting all the votes.
39% is not a mandate - it's getting lucky. And if Slick Mickey had left the race Romney would have cleaned up. But the media never explains that part.
Romney beat Huckabee among evangelicals on Super Tuesday. Have you heard that in the media?
McCain is not my candidate.
39% isn't a mandate, but
February 7, 2008 - 14:36 ET by balboa39% isn't a mandate, but it's a victory. More people wanted him than they wanted the other guys.
→ bal
February 7, 2008 - 14:40 ET by Cool ArrowLooks like we'll be venting for a while.
♣ a seal
Not Exactly Correct
February 7, 2008 - 15:19 ET by stratmanActually, McCain's lead represents a "mandate". A mandate does not require overwhelmingly high percentage support. Splinter groups in religion and politics, for example, traditionally believe they have a mandated position given to them by some higher authority and/or followers (think DKos) even though the larger mainstream garners the most support with respect to numbers.
In essence, any victory is an example of a "mandate". Of course in today's world, whatever "is" is recklessly applies and you can have it your self-indulgent way (People in general, not you specifically Balboa).
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
"...More people wanted him
February 7, 2008 - 16:27 ET by CGatton"...More people wanted him than they wanted the other guys."
No, not really. While more people wanted him than wanted any other individual, the majority of voters did not want him (61:39). While "winner takes all" can perhaps be justified in a two candidate race, it can never be justified when there are more than two.
R/
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
Candance, McCain isn't my
February 7, 2008 - 14:41 ET by Chris NormanCandance,
McCain isn't my candidate either, but primaries really aren't about mandates. How could they be with so many people in them?
My question is, if Romney
February 7, 2008 - 16:34 ET by motherbeltMy question is, if Romney was too far behind in delegates to catch up, what the h is Huckabee doing still in the race? He can't possibly think he can catch up to McCain and he doesn't need delegates to get picked for VP, so what's up? Just waiting the "appropriate" length of time so people won't connect his staying in to helping force Romney out?
I think Goober's hanging
February 7, 2008 - 19:40 ET by Chris NormanI think Goober's hanging around because he has nothing else to do. As soon as he drops out he'll go back to the relative obscurity he so richly deserves.
I have a link of Mitts CPAC speech, off drudge
February 7, 2008 - 14:25 ET by upcountrywaterGreat guy MITT ROMNEY you will be missed
iranian uranium; iranian uranium, iranian uranium..
4 (unthinkable) H-bombs, NOW THAT'S SOME CHANGE
Keep the change Bob. h/t Sam Peckinpah
Huckabee will follow soon
February 7, 2008 - 14:26 ET by RJHis only reason for continuing in the race was to kill the candidacy of the Mormon.
I agree RJ