It will be quite interesting to see how the assassination in Pakistan will play out here. It probably won't be long before the "liberals" start to blame President Bush or the Republican candidates. I already heard Ackerman of New York mention Iraq in connection with this. Sheeze!
(I'm answering for myself, not for R2P.) I also take it for granted that initial reports are almost always wrong. I don't question that Bhutto is dead, but so much depends on the assassin. Was it a pro-Musharraf militarist? Was it an ex-Taliban or al-Qaeda? Drudge reported that Musharraf was at her bedside when she died. Was that true? Was it trumped up? We don't know anything certain yet, and I'll bet various groups will blame others, exploiting the moment.
We know nothing, at the moment. Once the assassin is identified, and observers are confident who did this, then the story will sort itself out. It's way too soon to respond.
The death is confirmed by multiple sources enough to have no doubt on that, it's the details , some of which I have already heard corrected more than once on smaller details.
The news is out. Now is the time to sit back and wait for it all to shake out and see how it plays out.
Idle speculation at this point will not change anything and it is likely that three days from now the whole story could have a different look.
al Qaeda will be the one behind. They have made threats against her. They are looking to destablize the Government there. Theories will fly accross the wires that it was President Musharraf or the US fault but Musharraf has more to lose by her death. Riots and her supporters will come after him and blame him while the war lords and al Qaeda sit in lawless area of Pakistan and wait.
Check out the Koz Kidz. They already have it figured out that it was "Bush's imposed dictator Mushariff." The fact that Mushariff came to power prior to 2000 is of little consequence.
Jason Altmire ran on accusing the Repub incubant, Melissa Hart, as being a Bush lackey, claiming Hart voted with Bush 93% of the time. Altmire has voted almost 80% of the time with the party line.
Meanwhile, Bobby Casey ran on a platform that Rick Santorum was a "rubber stamp" for Bush, too. Casey's record? Votes along party line 93.7% of the time. Shocking.
He did not campaign in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh pretending that middle of PA somehow would counter-balance every minotiry/union vote that Casey was to get in those two cities.
In addition to believing that "within the lifetimes of his two cats" all of Gore's dire predictions of global warming are going to come true, and many of the Red areas of the country will be swamped or left barren, he also sees that this great upheaveal will be the salvation of the Democrats!
Putting aside the fact that the Earth has already seen an increase in ocean heights that equals what Gore is predicting, and we haven't seen even an appreciable area of a beach go under yet alone a whole coastal area, this idiot thinks that if you drown all the God fearing Republicans or let them die from dehydration, that all will be well with the country. The USA will become a Liberal Utopian environment where he can do all the drugs he wants, abortion will never be challenged, and the environment will always get the respect it deserves. He seems to completely overlook the fact that if you wipe out the folks who are generating the revenues to make all this happen... it ain't going to happen.
It's almost sad that his view of the coming wrath of global warming is so delusional. How fun would it be to watch him try to round up all his forest fairies and get them to stop hitting the bong and get some work done before the utopian society collapses under the weight of it''s own excesses.
Some days, all the op-eds are predictable and boring, but today is an exception. If you want to read three terrific, thought-provoking articles, I suggest the following.
Kissinger's analysis of Putin in Time magazine. I don't trust Putin, and I suspect he manipulates Iran indirectly. But Kissinger disagrees, and gives solid reasons. I may actually have to change my mind here.
George Will on McDonald's. I love the final observation where Will notes that both Ray Kroc and Walt Disney, founder of two iconic American corporations, were born close to each other, not long apart, and served in the same Red Cross outfit in WWI. Something in the water, perhaps?
Jay Lefkowitz in Commentary, telling the behind-the-scenes story of how Bush's stem cell policy developed. A must read for the media, and a good story on how policy really develops.
Well since Iran is putting their finger in pies all over the mideast and is now playing around in south and central america they have an amazing match to all the places the USSR used to push to play world chess and Russia itself only has modest presence in most of these places now.
I tend to think that Iran and North Korea are being used as proxies by Russia rather than playing the game up front like the used to.
On a warmer note, Dave Lindorff, has out done himself with a commentary published in the Baltimore Chronicle and Sentinel. The title?
"Global Warming Will Save America from the Right...Eventually".
Rather catchy, dont you think? What he is saying is that the Red states will become inundated or drought stricken and uninhabitable. Not considering that we may move to the enlightened neighborhoods, (where he resides, I assume), he instead writes, bold is mine...
"There will be much work to be done to help the earth and its residents—human and non-human—survive this man-made catastrophe, and we can’t have these future refugee troglodytes, should their personal disasters still fail to make them recognize reality, mucking things up again.
It should be considered acceptable, in this stifling new world, to say, “Shut up. We told you this would happen.”
Now is this the party that preaches tolerance...or what?
I guess this is licnese to tell SF and LA, after the next earth quake, "Shut up. We told you this would happen." Is this right Dave?
That op-ed made me laugh. Were intelligent people writing for the paper still out of town because they have life and spent it doing Christmas get-togethers? Or does Balt-Chronic always treat to the lowest common denominator?
He preaches tolerance (he's a libtard), but he practices hatred, bigotry, and sheer ignorance.
A little research (hint: read some blogs by Noel!) and this guy would be shut the hell up.
In actuality, this "editorial" is fit to print in:
I USED to live in Baltimore, they are all (including my relatives) brain washed. They like to threaten to dis-own you and crap like that. Unless you believe of course. I go home just to slap around the idiots who have stolen my great city. No wonder my Orioles suck, Karma. The News Papers there have removed all debate from those folks, they just follow anymore.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
"So the future political map of America is likely to look as different as the much shrunken geographical map, with much of the so-called “red” state region either gone or depopulated.
There is a poetic justice to this of course. It is conservatives who are giving us the candidates who steadfastly refuse to have the nation take steps that could slow the pace of climate change, so it is appropriate that they should bear the brunt of its impact."
The interesting part is at the bottom of the article. It seems Mr. Lindorff is the co-author of, "a well-regarded book on impeachment, The Case for Impeachment." The book describes the legal case for impeaching President Bush.
Lindorff is a racist. Remember Kanye West's enlightened statement that "Bush hates black people" because of the perceived lack of federal response to Katrina??
So Lindorff is advocating for a Katrina-like event times 1,000,000??
That entire article, even if it was intended for satire, was completely retarded.
I think the media will try to spin this a few ways:
1. Bhutto was pro-democracy, therefore any blow to democracy is a blow to Bush and his attempt at democracy in the Muslim world, vote for Hillary if you don't want this to happen.
2. Bush is secretly pleased with the death of Bhutto because he likes Musharraf more and wants more crackdowns on extremists everywhere which Mushy is willing to do- vote for Hillary if you don't like these types of "secret" alliances.
I just wonder how long if not already the looney leftist sites will be saying that President Bush and the neocons in his administration really really are the people who assassinated Bhutto.
I'm not wrecking my day by going to those sites....I just know how some or better yet most of those sites are.
Of course Hillary has already claimed what good friends her and Bhutto were...blah blah blah....anybody can take it from there when it comes to her and her typical blather...why she will take care of situations like this immediately when...not if... she is President after the election.
As an after-thought, not to be morbid but this took the tiger killer story off the air .....
It's already started. Bush did not do enough, Bush did too much with Iraq. Bhutto would still be alive if not for Bush's policies, yadda yadda yadda. If you want the world to be free of nukes, vote Hillary. If you don't want people to die, vote Hillary. If you don't like violence, vote Hillary. If you want Pakistan to be our friend, vote Hillary. I truly believe that the media thinks that they are going to defeat Bush in 2008 by playing every news story against him...... even though he can't run again!!
They are a strange bunch over at Kos land in a lot of ways. One time I posted a partial cut and past from over there at a blog and had linked it but the blog software ate the link in my comment.
I wasn't like maybe 3 minutes later one of the front page people from Kos was on the site complaining all about not providing a link back to them which I did about the same time as their complaint post. They might have even noticed the link if they had refreshed prior to posting their gripe.
They must have some search spiders running to see if anyone uses their stuff on the right side of the world. Paranoid to say the least.
This article everyone is referencing (and I just read thru your posts, thanks) is so far out I cannot believe this guy is serious. I have a hot flash for him (pun intended) about the hot areas of Phoenix and Tucson he is speaking about, right now it is 0945 and 35 very cold degrees here in Tucson. We have hard freeze warnings for the next few nights. I do realize that does not seem like much to those in other areas of the country, but it is COLD here.
With no disrespect intended to the dead, I blogged here months ago that Bhutto was not only dumb as a post but that she was tossing what would amount to nuclear bombs on a dynamite of Pakistan.
She is completely responsible for the dead in Pakistan in her return as much as those she took with her today. That is the plain reality.
Now while idiots like the McGlaughlin group WERE SAYING JUST LAST WEEK THAT Musharrif was a bad guy for clamping down........one sees why he clamped down as that nation is a cesspool of Russian sponsored Islamocommunist terrorists.
For the record, al Qaeda did this as both bin Laden and Zawahiri intend to get the Pakistan nuclear arsenal "to use on the west" as the Russians mandated that their bombs are not to be used on America ........as all uranium is able to be traced.
All this has done is made Pakistan a worse situation for America BY ANOTHER LIBERAL WOMAN meddling in politics, you can see the mirror in Hillary, Obama and Edwards as they are all liberal females as much as Huckabee and Ron Paul are too.
My concern if for the United States and for our policy Musharrif must be kept alive and in power and the McGlaughlin group can apologize for being the morons they are again.
Bhutto knew exactly what she was up against and what she was doing...and was a liberal....and the terrorists were after her big time before the upcoming elections.
Now our candidates are of course using the situation to attempt to show who is the most Presidential in this situation that Bhutto put us in here with her death...and we will get to hear non-stop from the rest of the world, the UN ect...and Musharraf is in a no-win situation once again, plus he has escaped nine attempts on his life so far...looks like Osama and his ilk are winning this one for the time being.
Although I share some of your sentiments, I think it is wrong to blame Bhuto for her own death. Her death was the direct result of some scumbag nutjobs, and I like to blame the ones that actually do the dirty deed.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Most of the sites I read from that area of the world tend to place the puppet player in the region not as Russia , even though they have some fingers in the pie, but the bigger player in Pakistan is China using it to keep India off balance plus smaller countries in south east asia. Remember Russia is selling armaments to India and they would have to be playing both ends against the middle to work in a major way with Pakistan at the same time and India has to good of an intelligence service to let that slip by them.
"Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto dies at hospital after being shot in neck and chest moments before homicide bombing at Rawalpindi campaign rally." - Fox News.com
Does it drive anyone else a little nuts that Fox News uses "homicide bombing" to describe "suicide bombing"? A homicide bombing is just a bombing. A suicide bombing is when the bomber takes his own life in the process. It sounds like they don't know what they're talking about every time I hear it.
Other than that, Fox News is great.
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
I always thought of this as an attempt to linguistically re-envision the ideological approach of certain issues. Like Freedom Fries, a neologism for which our government should be eternally embarassed. I think the logic behind "homicide boming" is the precept that "suicide bombing" takes the focus off of the victims of the attack and gives the bomber some sort of authority or mastery that we shouldn't allow terrorists to have. While this may be a worhtwhile point, as you point out, it's stupid because it does nothing to distinguish is from normal bombings (ie where the bomber does not die because he/she has a remote-detonation device or what have you). Suicide bombing is a unique threat and to de-emphasize that its practitioners are more than happy to take themselves out along with the target is to provide an inaccurate analysis of it.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
But shouldn't there be some sense of differentiation between suicide bombing and the kind of bombing that doesn't take the life of the bomber? I mean, for the sake of tactical strategies and understanding how to deal with the threat, if nothing else, is it really wise to downplay that aspect of it? Wouldn't it have been silly to pretend the Japanese kamikazees weren't willing to kill themselves in order to hit their target?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Didn't the kamikazees hit a target that had some kind of a uniform on, that were not everyday people including children outside doing everyday things like these homicide bombers are doing?
This is also why I say cowardly...by the ay according to the news this guy had a gun too that killed Bhutto before blowing up others, including himself.
A kamikaze bomber would be a more apt description. (or should we be calling them "homicide pilots"?)
I do appreciate the idea of not giving the bomber recognition. However, simply not using the perpetrator's name seems to satisfactorily accomplish that.
"Homicide bomber" gives no indication whether or not the bomber took his or her own life. To me, that's simply synonymous with "bomber." Although at Fox, it now is synonymous with "suicide bomber." So how is it giving any less recognition to the bomber?
I'm sure Fox and the other news outlets will be aggressively trying to find out more about this bomber and motives, which is far more telling of who the bomber is than calling him a homicide or suicide bomber.
I just think Fox is overthinking this. (Then again, I probably am, too.)
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
I would think the Mooslim community would be offended by the use of a heathen Shinto term such as that. Do not call down the wrath of IRB upon yourself!
Try to put your self in the martyr’s mind set for that is how he sees himself. If he accomplishes his mission it is not suicide. He is going out to right the wrongs. He is an instrument of his God to bring down the infidel. To him it is a promise of eternal blessings from his God. His intention is to kill. The suicide is just a step toward achieving his goal.
It is Murder. Cold, calculated, and without remorse. The suicide is the tool, the outcome is the Homicide.
Of course it's cowardly, and is different from kamikaze missions in some respects. Please don't assume that I'm defending it in any way. I don't think it should be phrased a certain way out of any sort of deference to the bomber. But I do think a distinction should be maintained between, say, a bomber who pushes a button from a mile away and one who takes him/herself out in order to do it. Not out of some martyr-like respect to the bomber (if I must reiterate that) but to emphasize the added dangers and complications that suicide bombing presents.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
We will again agree to dis agree. I see what you say but in the Exstreemist veiw this is not a bad thing. Suicide in this fashion is not a sin to them. By calling it Murder or Homicide it degrades it. By doing this it sends a message to those who thinking about it.
If we glorify it then it just justify it in the eyes of martyr.
I see no rational reason to justify use of "suicide bomber" in religious terms. I simply think it is semantically appropriate. The noun "bomber" still adequately conveys the fact that it is an act of aggression, not one limited to the death of the person doing it.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Fox explained why they use that phrase and for me it works. It to me is a reminder that the guy/gal that does the deed isn't doing it just to kill themselves (which can just as easily be achieved at home or an open area with no one else around).
But in the eyes of the martyr it is not a sin. By calling it Homicide degrades the act to them. Extreemist Muslims only see glory in the act of suicide.
So do you want to use the homicide version simply to deny the bomber the adjectival prefix that he had in mind? So you can "demean" him? There has been far too much of this coining of neologisms in the WoT, in my opinion. Similar to how people disapproved of the term "insurgents" in Iraq and wanted them to be referred to simply as "terrorists", even though there are broad and obvious differences between those who organized to fight our troops in Iraq and run-of-the-mill terrorists. This is what I mean about re-envisioning things ideologically. Isn't it just a weird inversion of the goals of PC language?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Unsane, you're one to be boasting about English comprehension, considering you took my statement completely out of context, not even bothering to complete the sentence I wrote. Yeah, that's it, I think we should just stop allowing new words and phrases into the English lexicon. If you want to swoop in and try to put me in my place with a one-sentence zinger, at least be honest about it. You can start with my reply to your barely-worth-replying-to statement about my "relentless hatred of capitalism."
Oh, and Chinese is more widely spoken, smart guy. Of course, your statement is so vague and pointless that I don't know if by "largest" you mean most commonly spoken or simply range of diction. Just letting you know.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
JasonC, lighten the f*!k up. I was merely highlighting your upset at neologisms, because we ALL have to get used to them no matter the purpose.
I might be guilty of changing the subject but that is all.
And, my dear hyper-intellectual, Chinese is the MOST WIDELY SPOKEN LANGUAGE. When I said English is the “world’s largest language”, I meant that as literally as possible. English is the world’s largest language. For example, French has something like 100,000 words. English, last time I checked, has 750,000 words. Hence, the world’s largest language.
You were saying something about “reading comprehension”?
Most neologisms in the WoT, such as "Homicide Bomber" serve the singular purpose of allowing us to reinscribe accepted terms with our own ideological veneer. It's the new PC.
As to the "largest language", yes, you are correct, and I alluded to that.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
At least Fred gets it... which is a lot more than many
This is an international war we are engaged in," he emphasized. "Bhutto's assassination is not a law enforcement matter. This is a global conflict, and al-Qaida wants to bring Western civilization to its knees." Fred Thompson
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I am down to 2 people I want to vote for. Fred is one of them. Still waiting to make up my mind but I like Fred so I am torn right now who I will vote for.
Right in line with the other leftists here in this country that are always apologizing to other countries for something we are perceived to have done...no matter how long ago or far-away.
....never-ending, reminds me of Bill Clintoon biting his lower lip and shedding a phony tear or two...I'm sorry I feel your pain speech, whether it was here in this country, say a funeral for instance or in another country kissing arse.
Anything for a vote...that is what the Huckster is and has been doing, as you well know.
Just more proof that Huckabee is a poor choice for anyone's vote. Who doesn't think Huck's "apology" will be used against America? No way, no how, is this guy qualified to be President.
This assassination proves again we need strong leaders with strong backbones to lead this Nation. I will probably get flamed for this, but it is a shame Bush can't run again. There are few people in public life that have the fortitude he has, when it comes to standing up when it counts the most.
Keeping the same thought going, it IS too bad Cheney isn't running. I think he would win hands down.
Who caught Paul Krugman hedging on Charlie Rose today? Fun interview. He looked like a deer in headlights on a couple points. Rose wasn't throwing softballs either. If there were an interview that I'd like the typical lib to watch, this is it.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
After watching that interview, I don't think any of the Democrats will be asking him for economic advice, or at least they won't be advertising that fact. All we have to do now is hope they don't win, since guys like him will be determining economic policy.
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
Aaah, Leon, my lab-experiment rodent, you gave me precisely the results I predicted. You bit the bait and countered with the Shy stuff (and you really do have obsessive tendencies -- what's with you and your fixation on that "African American" woman?)
Anyway, everyone is right about you: a dim, overly-obnoxious, tragically hip but clueless, too-much-time-on-his-hands, liberal weenie bathroom dweller.
(PS: had to move out of the "kiddie porn" thread you and the other liberal perverts evidently can't get enough of... it's now a Leon-wasteland freezing my browser.)
I mean could there really be any other response for a guy that:
1) is 40
2) sells cheap thongs on the internet for a career
3) trolls myspace begging strangers to be his friend
I literally gave the only possible response to your post.
Anytime you try to say anything serious about politics or liberal media bias or philosophy or art or whatever, I just think of the three points above and realize, who cares what this guy thinks?
WOW!! Wait, I'm not 20 or 25? Whatever my age is, this meeeeeans.......? Not quite sure how age validates or invalidates me or any other NB contributor, other than I might actually know more than you.
2) sells cheap thongs on the internet for a career
OMG!!! I sell clothing merchandise that includes underwear? Serious?? Hey, if thong underwear bothers you (lover of underage girls w/o shirts), then I order you to also go tar and feather my mirror-image-of-Leon brother -- another liberal moron with the same pretentious, glib take on art and music. His company cranked out underwear with their logo on them. You can thank him for the idea.
3) trolls myspace begging strangers to be his friend
Haha.
No Leon, YOU troll. That I have 23 thousand myspace friends bothers you, I know, but that's some insecurity issue you'll have to iron out on your own, in your bathroom of course :)
1) No I bring up your age b/c it's funny to watch a 40 year old guy still trying to make in the music industry via myspace. Great idea. 20 years ago! But don't worry, you're in good company with every other highschool kid and college drop-out that headed to MySpace to hit the big time.
2) You sell CHEAP clothing on the internet. Thongs don't bother me at all when they're on my ladies, I just wouldn't want to sell them. Esp. not tacky cotton monstrosities over the internet. Activity number 2 that you're engaged in that every young 20 year old that doesn't want to grow up and get a real job does to pretend they're actually doing something.
3) I have 23,000 friends on myspace! haha. Oh my I'm so jealous of all your fake friends that you solicted to become your friends. In fact, guys like you are one of the reasons that MySpace is getting dominated by Facebook. People get tired of constantly being harassed by strangers such as Mr Shy begging them to be their friend, so they leave. Your message begging for friendship generally comes with all the other stripper friend invites people get on MySpace. Stripper, stripper, MrShy, stripper, call girl, stripper. What you do on MySpace is the equivalent of door to door begging. Please be my friend so I can brag to other strangers that I have more friends I don't know than they do!
1) I'm talentless yet you're almost to retirement age and you're still trying to start a music career. Nota Bene: Friends on MySpace do not equal fans. haha. Clearly if you had a talent, you would have put it to good use by age 40 and you wouldn't be begging for internet friends. It will definitely be sweet though once you start collecting social security, you won't have to sell crappy thongs anymore and you can just focus on your music.
2) I have no idea who the Professor is. I don't know any posters on this blog in real life. Only as Orange Names on a screen.
3) The Paula Abdul comment was gold.
4) I go on the internet for fun. You go on the internet to try to make money to survive. You reek of desperation. How many MrShy thongs did you sell this Christmas season? All the Wall Street analysts said it was a hot ticket item. Lines around the block to get them. People morgatging their homes! Pure mayhem!!
5) All of your attacks against me are speculation b/c you actually know nothing about me. Meanwhile, all of my attacks against you are true and people can see for themselves b/c you put yourself out there. Interesting decision. If I hadn't done anything with my life in the first 40 years I'm not so sure I'd be as excited to share my lack of accomplishment with 3,000 daily viewers.
6) You also suffer from a lack of reading comprehension. 'Yet' does have a meaning when used in a sentence.
MrShy. Whoa I almost feel bad about pointing out the reality of your situation as if I'm being overly mean, but then I realize, no, that really is your life.
No, I saw the "yet", but that doesn't suffice, so you exposed yourself. But I'll help you out here. In the future try:
I'm "talentless", yet....
or
I'm talentless, yet....
Any way you slice it, I still stand by my speculation (fine, sue me, I am speculating) that you lack talent in anything. If you don't, put it out there. Myspace, Facebook, whatever. I'm curious :)
"Activity number 2 that you're engaged in that every young 20 year old
that doesn't want to grow up and get a real job does to pretend they're
actually doing something"
"Real jobs" are overrated. What is a real job, by the way, working your butt off making someone else rich? No thanks, I'll pass. Besides, I couldn't afford the pay cut.
Ron Paul is going to tell us what we (the U.S.) should do now with the death of Bhutto...he is going to be speaking with Wolfie Blitzer in a few minutes on CNN.
I used to like to listen to him regarding some matters, especially the Constitution, this was on the House floor though over the years... but anymore even his whine in his voice is getting to me anymore where I can barely get through his blithering blather on the shows he is on.
Retreat for Defeat should be his motto like I said in another thread somewhere regarding his spiel.
Btw...glad you saw the light in this regard anyway...lol.
I agree about the Constitution issues and that's why I originally found him interesting, but to be honest, I hadn't heard much about him until earlier this year. That's when I learned what he was all about.
And I was picking up what he was putting down, but it all sounds like BS in the context of these racist comments.
Also I'll have to agree that he does sound pretty whiny. But I kind of liked that. Before it was a defiant sort of whine, but now that it's a racist sort of whine, I'm no longer interested.
"Just 38 percent of Republicans and 52 percent of Democrats in Iowa have decided whom to support, the most recent CNN poll indicates, while the rest are either undecided or only leaning toward a candidate and thus open to persuasion.
"In New Hampshire, where the primary comes five days after Iowa, only 28 percent of likely Democratic voters and 35 percent of Republicans have made up their minds, according to a Globe survey published Sunday."
I heard these kind of numbers late last week somewhere...I think Thompson is going to do much better than people think, I don't know about NH but I think the rest from here on out may surprise some people, especially the talking heads...
If he does the long knives are out...again only sharpened to the max.
Most of the candidates on both sides are just throwing out politico speechisms. Talk for half an hour and say nothing in the process but broad stroke generalities. Hillary throws out the program idea of the day and backtracks a couple of days later after the flash polls are in.
Having heard to many of those speeches over the years you might as well be trying to nail jello to a tree.
Firedog Lake and HuffPo are starting to get a few fraying around the edges postings starting to show up.
The really really far left ones that are way left of Kos and Co are moving from low rumble , passed through shock and outrage and now are working a bit of the conspiracy angles.
I don't go hunting them unless I am working on a particular topic , but I have them in my RSS reader to get me generally informed on what they say day to day.
Basically I just scan each post as it comes in unless it catches my eye in some way then I double click it in my reader which opens a new tab in firefox to load the source posting.
" The State Department geniuses thought they had it all figured out. They'd arranged a shotgun marriage between the Bhutto and Sharif factions as a "united" "democratic" "movement" and were pushing Musharraf to reach a deal with them. That's what diplomats do: They find guys in suits and get 'em round a table. But none of those representatives represents the rapidly evolving reality of Pakistan. Miss Bhutto could never have been a viable leader of a post-Musharraf settlement, and the delusion that she could have been sent her to her death.
Yeah, and these are the same geniuses who are currently bollixing Israel into a corner regarding the Palestinian entity. AGAIN.
Most of them are career Democrats, of course. They also refused to pressure Musharaff into allowing US protection details to guard her.
Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!
DId I miss something, or was this Christmas pretty quiet, as far as the ACLU is concerned. Stores, notably Walmart, returned to saying Merry Christmas, there were Christmas shops, and I don't recall hearing one lawsuit from the ACLU. DId I miss something?
If I didn't miss something, I wonder if the Democrats put the squash, on one of their favorite contituencies, until after the elections, next November? I don't believe there's anyone , when they hear of a lawsuit from the ACLU, that doesn't think about the Democrats. Sort of makes you wonder, eh?
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
Most environmentalist are liberal, I think we can all agree on that point. As such, most liberals believe in evolution or Darwin's theory on evolution at any rate, as well.
Recently a mass of dolphins beached themselves in Australia. As soon as this mass of beached dolphins was discovered, an even larger mass of environmentalist rushed to the scene to push said dolphins back onto the sea so they could swim away.
Now, for being such fervent believers in evolution, why did they not leave the dolphins alone on the beach? Maybe they were trying to "walk" away from the sea and these knuckleheads kept pushing them back in... I'm just saying..:-) Have a Happy New Year!!
Environmentalists are inherantly hypocritical in that respect: They espouse letting things happen naturally but have no qualms about interfering to "help things along" whenever things don't fit their gradeschooler's view of nature.
There's a line of questioning in that direction I really want to ask someone who is both an environmentalist and an atheist, but I'm having a hard time finding anyone to question. Maybe they sense the natural predator of their ideology: Logical thought... Ah, well, keep safe over the calander change, and, on the off-chance of offending some anti-Christian nitwit, a belated merry Christmas! ;-)
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
There isn't a link yet last I looked but it was really great, he said everything I wished the President would say more often about the war we are really in now.
Check Fox later for anyone interested, it will be there.
In the Thursday evening of BBC World which was the fiction of Bhutto's assassination instead of the reality, the BBC claimed it had over 100,000 emails from "mourners" who for some reason emailed the BBC.
They of course read ones which praised mob rule and praised Bhutto, but the one which got the big exposure of "just a letter" which was supposed to represent the mail said:
Since President Musharrif has had a relationship with George Bush Pakistan HAS HAD MORE TERRORISM.
Only took 12 hours and the BBC once again sinks to lows in blaming George Bush for terrorism.
ABC on Nightline though took a different approach in repeating the obvious that al Qaeda assassinated Bhutto, but swerved into that America in the communist State Department has cut Musharrif adrift as he is not credible..........and then they OUTED THE NEW HEAD OF THE PAK military as American trained and CIA backed.
Yeah that is really a good idea in telling the world our best asset in Pakistan.
If the Justice Department is gleaning this site for terrorists, please will you show some moxy and arrest Brian Ross and the idiots at the State Department as they have no business leaking information that will get American assets murdered.
Ten years ago tonight, I remember well watching Jacksonville getting destroyed by the Broncos, avenging their embarrassing loss of the season before. The Broncos killed them 42-17.
And that was the beginning of the Broncos amazing Super Bowl run.
The way my boys are playing now...well...it seems like longer than 10 years...
Un, Un, Un. Why did you have to bring up that playoff run? Now you have me all depressed. My Steeler had just beaten the dreaded Patsies by a point, and now had only one home game against a wild-card Bronco team in the way between the Black and Gold and another Super Bowl.
Your damn Broncos made Kordell Stewart look like, well, an even WORSE QB than he was. I think he threw 3 int's. We couldn't stop Terrel Davis, either!
Another Steeler homegame choke during the early Cowher era, and that loss hurt even more than when your dam Broncos beat Bubby Brister's Steelers by one point in '89. Merril Hoge was a beast that day!
Oh, cue the violins!!! Your Steelers beat my Broncos in the AFC Championship in January 2006, AND beat a 13-3 Bronco team in the 1984 playoffs in the first round, AND dethroned the AFC Champion Broncos in the 1978 playoffs!!!
By the way Kordell Stewart overturned the ball 5 times. He also did some fumbles.
I respect and admire the fact you are a Steelers fan, for you are not a fan of the Chiefs, Raiders or Chargers. :-)
That 1984 game was a shining moment in Mark Malone's unspectacular career! If I remember corrrectly, Dan Marino destroyed the Steelers a week later.
The 1978 Steelers team has been argued to have been one of the greatest teams of all-time, so no shame there! I believe your guys beat my guys the year before, that year the Broncs went on to lose to Dallas in the Super Bowl.
I never thought of this before, but I guess the Steelers and Broncs have faced each other in the playoffs ALOT!
I'm learning a lot more about Benazir Bhutto from Debbie Schlussel, and it's not pretty.
Including information about her possible involvement in the murder of her own brother -- who himself, was not a nice man. In fact, the Bhuttos seem a bad lot all round.
Much of this supports the postings of Lame Cherry here.
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Assassination
December 27, 2007 - 10:51 ET by iveseenitallIt will be quite interesting to see how the assassination in Pakistan will play out here. It probably won't be long before the "liberals" start to blame President Bush or the Republican candidates. I already heard Ackerman of New York mention Iraq in connection with this. Sheeze!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
The important point is NOT
December 27, 2007 - 10:53 ET by Right2thePointThe important point is NOT to jump to conclusions , initial reports are likely to be wrong.
R2P...
December 27, 2007 - 11:02 ET by Clear thinkerAre you questioning the report that Bhutto is dead?
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Had same reaction
December 27, 2007 - 11:14 ET by KC Mulville(I'm answering for myself, not for R2P.) I also take it for granted that initial reports are almost always wrong. I don't question that Bhutto is dead, but so much depends on the assassin. Was it a pro-Musharraf militarist? Was it an ex-Taliban or al-Qaeda? Drudge reported that Musharraf was at her bedside when she died. Was that true? Was it trumped up? We don't know anything certain yet, and I'll bet various groups will blame others, exploiting the moment.
We know nothing, at the moment. Once the assassin is identified, and observers are confident who did this, then the story will sort itself out. It's way too soon to respond.
The death is confirmed by
December 27, 2007 - 11:59 ET by Right2thePointThe death is confirmed by multiple sources enough to have no doubt on that, it's the details , some of which I have already heard corrected more than once on smaller details.
The news is out. Now is the time to sit back and wait for it all to shake out and see how it plays out.
Idle speculation at this point will not change anything and it is likely that three days from now the whole story could have a different look.
al Qaeda will be the one
December 27, 2007 - 11:40 ET by Airforce_5_Oal Qaeda will be the one behind. They have made threats against her. They are looking to destablize the Government there. Theories will fly accross the wires that it was President Musharraf or the US fault but Musharraf has more to lose by her death. Riots and her supporters will come after him and blame him while the war lords and al Qaeda sit in lawless area of Pakistan and wait.
Time to drop some bombs I believe.
Already
December 27, 2007 - 11:49 ET by Gat New YorkCheck out the Koz Kidz. They already have it figured out that it was "Bush's imposed dictator Mushariff." The fact that Mushariff came to power prior to 2000 is of little consequence.
Fake moderates
December 27, 2007 - 10:52 ET by Matthew SheffieldDems who vote "no" on a procedural motions to inflate their ratio of votes against the party line.
How long do they think this little trick could work before the voters noticed?
As powerline said on this
December 27, 2007 - 10:54 ET by Right2thePointAs powerline said on this earlier....the opposition campaign commercial just write themselves on this issue.
Jason Altmire ran on
December 27, 2007 - 11:47 ET by Roger the ShrubberJason Altmire ran on accusing the Repub incubant, Melissa Hart, as being a Bush lackey, claiming Hart voted with Bush 93% of the time. Altmire has voted almost 80% of the time with the party line.
Meanwhile, Bobby Casey ran on a platform that Rick Santorum was a "rubber stamp" for Bush, too. Casey's record? Votes along party line 93.7% of the time. Shocking.
Santorum lost because he did
December 27, 2007 - 14:13 ET by Evil CapitalistSantorum lost because he did not want to win.
He did not campaign in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh pretending that middle of PA somehow would counter-balance every minotiry/union vote that Casey was to get in those two cities.
Best Story of 2007
December 27, 2007 - 11:04 ET by BruzillaThis story gets my nomination: http://www.baltimore...
In addition to believing that "within the lifetimes of his two cats" all of Gore's dire predictions of global warming are going to come true, and many of the Red areas of the country will be swamped or left barren, he also sees that this great upheaveal will be the salvation of the Democrats!
Putting aside the fact that the Earth has already seen an increase in ocean heights that equals what Gore is predicting, and we haven't seen even an appreciable area of a beach go under yet alone a whole coastal area, this idiot thinks that if you drown all the God fearing Republicans or let them die from dehydration, that all will be well with the country. The USA will become a Liberal Utopian environment where he can do all the drugs he wants, abortion will never be challenged, and the environment will always get the respect it deserves. He seems to completely overlook the fact that if you wipe out the folks who are generating the revenues to make all this happen... it ain't going to happen.
It's almost sad that his view of the coming wrath of global warming is so delusional. How fun would it be to watch him try to round up all his forest fairies and get them to stop hitting the bong and get some work done before the utopian society collapses under the weight of it''s own excesses.
Oh yeah! That's a winner!
December 27, 2007 - 11:11 ET by HermanoOh yeah! That's a winner!
Bruz
December 27, 2007 - 11:11 ET by bassndudeI see we were thinking along the same lines.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
It only proves that the
December 27, 2007 - 11:49 ET by Airforce_5_OIt only proves that the left has an offical religion now called the Church of Global Warming.
My question: Isn't it the left who complain about seperating church and state?
Worthy articles
December 27, 2007 - 11:05 ET by KC MulvilleSome days, all the op-eds are predictable and boring, but today is an exception. If you want to read three terrific, thought-provoking articles, I suggest the following.
Well since Iran is putting
December 27, 2007 - 12:05 ET by Right2thePointWell since Iran is putting their finger in pies all over the mideast and is now playing around in south and central america they have an amazing match to all the places the USSR used to push to play world chess and Russia itself only has modest presence in most of these places now.
I tend to think that Iran and North Korea are being used as proxies by Russia rather than playing the game up front like the used to.
On a warmer note, Dave
December 27, 2007 - 11:10 ET by bassndudeOn a warmer note, Dave Lindorff, has out done himself with a commentary published in the Baltimore Chronicle and Sentinel. The title?
"Global Warming Will Save America from the Right...Eventually".
Rather catchy, dont you think? What he is saying is that the Red states will become inundated or drought stricken and uninhabitable. Not considering that we may move to the enlightened neighborhoods, (where he resides, I assume), he instead writes, bold is mine...
"There will be much work to be done to help the earth and its residents—human and non-human—survive this man-made catastrophe, and we can’t have these future refugee troglodytes, should their personal disasters still fail to make them recognize reality, mucking things up again.
It should be considered acceptable, in this stifling new world, to say, “Shut up. We told you this would happen.”
Now is this the party that preaches tolerance...or what?
I guess this is licnese to tell SF and LA, after the next earth quake, "Shut up. We told you this would happen." Is this right Dave?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Great Minds
December 27, 2007 - 11:17 ET by OldSailor88Think alike! We must have been typing at the same time, bassndude!
Ecce potestas casei!
"Global Warming Will Save America from the Right...Eventually".
December 27, 2007 - 11:34 ET by Prester JohnThat's OK since abortion will save America from the Left long before GW saves it from the Right.
Malkin has a good post up
December 27, 2007 - 12:06 ET by Right2thePointMalkin has a good post up now about this with an excellent thumbnail history of some of his past over the top stuff.
Check it out.
That op-ed made me laugh.
December 27, 2007 - 12:57 ET by wiwfThat op-ed made me laugh. Were intelligent people writing for the paper still out of town because they have life and spent it doing Christmas get-togethers? Or does Balt-Chronic always treat to the lowest common denominator?
He preaches tolerance (he's a libtard), but he practices hatred, bigotry, and sheer ignorance.
A little research (hint: read some blogs by Noel!) and this guy would be shut the hell up.
In actuality, this "editorial" is fit to print in:
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
Way late, I know
December 27, 2007 - 20:07 ET by general companyI USED to live in Baltimore, they are all (including my relatives) brain washed. They like to threaten to dis-own you and crap like that. Unless you believe of course. I go home just to slap around the idiots who have stolen my great city. No wonder my Orioles suck, Karma. The News Papers there have removed all debate from those folks, they just follow anymore.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
Tim Graham on radio NOW
December 27, 2007 - 11:12 ET by Jack BauerTim Graham on radio NOW
Tim is appearing on KSFO 560 talk radio internet broadcast on
www.ksfo560.com at 08.11 PST (like check it dude right now)
AGW just gets worse and worse
December 27, 2007 - 11:19 ET by OldSailor88I ran into this article while perusing Drudge today. According to the writer, Dave Lindorff, global warming is going to save the world from us conservatives. As the sea level rises, we're going to be drowned and blue states will prevail.
"So the future political map of America is likely to look as different as the much shrunken geographical map, with much of the so-called “red” state region either gone or depopulated.
There is a poetic justice to this of course. It is conservatives who are giving us the candidates who steadfastly refuse to have the nation take steps that could slow the pace of climate change, so it is appropriate that they should bear the brunt of its impact."
The interesting part is at the bottom of the article. It seems Mr. Lindorff is the co-author of, "a well-regarded book on impeachment, The Case for Impeachment." The book describes the legal case for impeaching President Bush.
I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.
Ecce potestas casei!
Aren't the coasts mostly all
December 27, 2007 - 11:23 ET by Jack BauerAren't the coasts mostly all Democrat states?
Nope
December 27, 2007 - 11:27 ET by OldSailor88Not in La La Land, Jack.
Ecce potestas casei!
Lindorff for racist of the year
December 27, 2007 - 12:26 ET by Swiss ToniLindorff is a racist. Remember Kanye West's enlightened statement that "Bush hates black people" because of the perceived lack of federal response to Katrina??
So Lindorff is advocating for a Katrina-like event times 1,000,000??
That entire article, even if it was intended for satire, was completely retarded.
here here "Get
December 27, 2007 - 17:41 ET by red_dragon311here here
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
I think the media will try
December 27, 2007 - 11:35 ET by CapitalismRulesI think the media will try to spin this a few ways:
1. Bhutto was pro-democracy, therefore any blow to democracy is a blow to Bush and his attempt at democracy in the Muslim world, vote for Hillary if you don't want this to happen.
2. Bush is secretly pleased with the death of Bhutto because he likes Musharraf more and wants more crackdowns on extremists everywhere which Mushy is willing to do- vote for Hillary if you don't like these types of "secret" alliances.
CR... I just wonder how
December 27, 2007 - 11:55 ET by bigtimerCR...
I just wonder how long if not already the looney leftist sites will be saying that President Bush and the neocons in his administration really really are the people who assassinated Bhutto.
I'm not wrecking my day by going to those sites....I just know how some or better yet most of those sites are.
Of course Hillary has already claimed what good friends her and Bhutto were...blah blah blah....anybody can take it from there when it comes to her and her typical blather...why she will take care of situations like this immediately when... not if... she is President after the election.
As an after-thought, not to be morbid but this took the tiger killer story off the air .....
It's already started. Bush
December 27, 2007 - 13:59 ET by CapitalismRulesIt's already started. Bush did not do enough, Bush did too much with Iraq. Bhutto would still be alive if not for Bush's policies, yadda yadda yadda. If you want the world to be free of nukes, vote Hillary. If you don't want people to die, vote Hillary. If you don't like violence, vote Hillary. If you want Pakistan to be our friend, vote Hillary. I truly believe that the media thinks that they are going to defeat Bush in 2008 by playing every news story against him...... even though he can't run again!!
Here's an example
December 27, 2007 - 14:40 ET by Del Dolemontehttp://exurbanleague...
Del... That was an
December 27, 2007 - 14:44 ET by bigtimerDel...
That was an excellent piece.
Thank you.
Ditto.....sums it up very
December 27, 2007 - 16:03 ET by CapitalismRulesDitto.....sums it up very well.
They are a strange bunch of
December 27, 2007 - 19:59 ET by Right2thePointThey are a strange bunch over at Kos land in a lot of ways. One time I posted a partial cut and past from over there at a blog and had linked it but the blog software ate the link in my comment.
I wasn't like maybe 3 minutes later one of the front page people from Kos was on the site complaining all about not providing a link back to them which I did about the same time as their complaint post. They might have even noticed the link if they had refreshed prior to posting their gripe.
They must have some search spiders running to see if anyone uses their stuff on the right side of the world. Paranoid to say the least.
This Baltimore guy is CRAZY
December 27, 2007 - 11:56 ET by DEVILDOCMOMThis article everyone is referencing (and I just read thru your posts, thanks) is so far out I cannot believe this guy is serious. I have a hot flash for him (pun intended) about the hot areas of Phoenix and Tucson he is speaking about, right now it is 0945 and 35 very cold degrees here in Tucson. We have hard freeze warnings for the next few nights. I do realize that does not seem like much to those in other areas of the country, but it is COLD here.
Bhutto was dumb as a post and now dead as one
December 27, 2007 - 12:11 ET by Lame CherryWith no disrespect intended to the dead, I blogged here months ago that Bhutto was not only dumb as a post but that she was tossing what would amount to nuclear bombs on a dynamite of Pakistan.
She is completely responsible for the dead in Pakistan in her return as much as those she took with her today. That is the plain reality.
Now while idiots like the McGlaughlin group WERE SAYING JUST LAST WEEK THAT Musharrif was a bad guy for clamping down........one sees why he clamped down as that nation is a cesspool of Russian sponsored Islamocommunist terrorists.
For the record, al Qaeda did this as both bin Laden and Zawahiri intend to get the Pakistan nuclear arsenal "to use on the west" as the Russians mandated that their bombs are not to be used on America ........as all uranium is able to be traced.
All this has done is made Pakistan a worse situation for America BY ANOTHER LIBERAL WOMAN meddling in politics, you can see the mirror in Hillary, Obama and Edwards as they are all liberal females as much as Huckabee and Ron Paul are too.
My concern if for the United States and for our policy Musharrif must be kept alive and in power and the McGlaughlin group can apologize for being the morons they are again.
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LC.... I share your
December 27, 2007 - 12:26 ET by bigtimerLC....
I share your sentiments....
Bhutto knew exactly what she was up against and what she was doing...and was a liberal....and the terrorists were after her big time before the upcoming elections.
Now our candidates are of course using the situation to attempt to show who is the most Presidential in this situation that Bhutto put us in here with her death...and we will get to hear non-stop from the rest of the world, the UN ect...and Musharraf is in a no-win situation once again, plus he has escaped nine attempts on his life so far...looks like Osama and his ilk are winning this one for the time being.
Sad all the way around.
Cherry...
December 27, 2007 - 13:39 ET by Clear thinkerAlthough I share some of your sentiments, I think it is wrong to blame Bhuto for her own death. Her death was the direct result of some scumbag nutjobs, and I like to blame the ones that actually do the dirty deed.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
-
December 27, 2007 - 21:08 ET by dahliatraversI like to blame the ones that actually do the dirty deed.
Yes, that way, they don't escape responsibility.
leave it to lame cherry...
December 27, 2007 - 14:14 ET by mvfreemanTo say the dumbest things.
Most of the sites I read
December 27, 2007 - 14:18 ET by Right2thePointMost of the sites I read from that area of the world tend to place the puppet player in the region not as Russia , even though they have some fingers in the pie, but the bigger player in Pakistan is China using it to keep India off balance plus smaller countries in south east asia. Remember Russia is selling armaments to India and they would have to be playing both ends against the middle to work in a major way with Pakistan at the same time and India has to good of an intelligence service to let that slip by them.
Remember
December 30, 2007 - 00:30 ET by UnsaneRemember: China and Pakistan are allies. Why? The common enemy: India. Anyone who makes trouble for India will have friends in Islamabad and Beijing.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Al-Kayda claiming perverted
December 27, 2007 - 13:23 ET by Jack BauerAl-Kayda claiming perverted "responsibility" for murdering Benazir Bhutto and twenty other poor souls.
Democrats claim Al-Kayda never in Pakistan.
9/11 troofers claim controlled demoltion from Langley.
Rosie O'Donnell claims this is first time in history suicide bomb melts steel car.
Google Gulf of Tonkin, steel and nutjob, people. DO IT.
Jack... Wow... How did
December 27, 2007 - 13:30 ET by bigtimerJack...
Wow...
How did you ever reach those wonderful sites listed with those three words?
Just very curious....
LOL BT... you are
December 27, 2007 - 13:35 ET by Jack BauerLOL BT... you are right.
You can actually get loony web links from those "Rosie" suggestions.
I called it! Now the left
December 27, 2007 - 14:04 ET by Airforce_5_OI called it!
Now the left will blame Bush for pushing them out of Iraq and Afganistan, making the rest of the region unstable.
Man this is just too easy to predict, I better go make some lottery picks.
-
December 27, 2007 - 21:14 ET by dahliatraversDemocrats claim Al-Kayda never in Pakistan.
No gays in Pakistan, either, Jack.
(... no, wait, that's Iran. I'm getting my nutcases mixed up ...)
"Homicide" bombing. Ugh.
December 27, 2007 - 13:46 ET by Hero SquadDoes it drive anyone else a little nuts that Fox News uses "homicide bombing" to describe "suicide bombing"? A homicide bombing is just a bombing. A suicide bombing is when the bomber takes his own life in the process. It sounds like they don't know what they're talking about every time I hear it.
Other than that, Fox News is great.
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
I always thought of this as
December 27, 2007 - 14:02 ET by JasonCI always thought of this as an attempt to linguistically re-envision the ideological approach of certain issues. Like Freedom Fries, a neologism for which our government should be eternally embarassed. I think the logic behind "homicide boming" is the precept that "suicide bombing" takes the focus off of the victims of the attack and gives the bomber some sort of authority or mastery that we shouldn't allow terrorists to have. While this may be a worhtwhile point, as you point out, it's stupid because it does nothing to distinguish is from normal bombings (ie where the bomber does not die because he/she has a remote-detonation device or what have you). Suicide bombing is a unique threat and to de-emphasize that its practitioners are more than happy to take themselves out along with the target is to provide an inaccurate analysis of it.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Hero
December 27, 2007 - 14:07 ET by Airforce_5_OI think that Fox is spot on. I could careless about his suicide when he kills men, women and children without regret. That is a Homicide.
AF...I agree.To me
December 27, 2007 - 14:11 ET by bigtimerAF...
I agree.
To me suicide implies killing ones self.
Homicide kills others, who cares if it includes the cowardly S.O. B. who did it.
I heard FOX use this term this morning and was glad they called it exactly what it was in my eyes...
Btw....No offense meant here Hero...
But shouldn't there be some
December 27, 2007 - 14:16 ET by JasonCBut shouldn't there be some sense of differentiation between suicide bombing and the kind of bombing that doesn't take the life of the bomber? I mean, for the sake of tactical strategies and understanding how to deal with the threat, if nothing else, is it really wise to downplay that aspect of it? Wouldn't it have been silly to pretend the Japanese kamikazees weren't willing to kill themselves in order to hit their target?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Didn't the kamikazees hit a
December 27, 2007 - 14:22 ET by bigtimerDidn't the kamikazees hit a target that had some kind of a uniform on, that were not everyday people including children outside doing everyday things like these homicide bombers are doing?
This is also why I say cowardly...by the ay according to the news this guy had a gun too that killed Bhutto before blowing up others, including himself.
We are in a different war in a different time.
JMHO
It's about being descriptive
December 27, 2007 - 14:43 ET by Hero SquadA kamikaze bomber would be a more apt description. (or should we be calling them "homicide pilots"?)
I do appreciate the idea of not giving the bomber recognition. However, simply not using the perpetrator's name seems to satisfactorily accomplish that.
"Homicide bomber" gives no indication whether or not the bomber took his or her own life. To me, that's simply synonymous with "bomber." Although at Fox, it now is synonymous with "suicide bomber." So how is it giving any less recognition to the bomber?
I'm sure Fox and the other news outlets will be aggressively trying to find out more about this bomber and motives, which is far more telling of who the bomber is than calling him a homicide or suicide bomber.
I just think Fox is overthinking this. (Then again, I probably am, too.)
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
I would think the Mooslim
December 27, 2007 - 15:08 ET by Roger the ShrubberI would think the Mooslim community would be offended by the use of a heathen Shinto term such as that. Do not call down the wrath of IRB upon yourself!
JasonC
December 27, 2007 - 14:26 ET by Airforce_5_OTry to put your self in the martyr’s mind set for that is how he sees himself. If he accomplishes his mission it is not suicide. He is going out to right the wrongs. He is an instrument of his God to bring down the infidel. To him it is a promise of eternal blessings from his God. His intention is to kill. The suicide is just a step toward achieving his goal.
It is Murder. Cold, calculated, and without remorse. The suicide is the tool, the outcome is the Homicide.
A Homicide Bomber.
Of course it's cowardly,
December 27, 2007 - 14:32 ET by JasonCOf course it's cowardly, and is different from kamikaze missions in some respects. Please don't assume that I'm defending it in any way. I don't think it should be phrased a certain way out of any sort of deference to the bomber. But I do think a distinction should be maintained between, say, a bomber who pushes a button from a mile away and one who takes him/herself out in order to do it. Not out of some martyr-like respect to the bomber (if I must reiterate that) but to emphasize the added dangers and complications that suicide bombing presents.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
JasonC
December 27, 2007 - 14:44 ET by Airforce_5_OWe will again agree to dis agree. I see what you say but in the Exstreemist veiw this is not a bad thing. Suicide in this fashion is not a sin to them. By calling it Murder or Homicide it degrades it. By doing this it sends a message to those who thinking about it.
If we glorify it then it just justify it in the eyes of martyr.
Homicide is Homicide.
Suicide is a sinful act,
December 27, 2007 - 14:46 ET by Hero SquadSuicide is a sinful act, correct? I see no problem attaching a sinful moniker to someone who commits such a horrific act.
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
I see no rational reason to
December 27, 2007 - 14:50 ET by JasonCI see no rational reason to justify use of "suicide bomber" in religious terms. I simply think it is semantically appropriate. The noun "bomber" still adequately conveys the fact that it is an act of aggression, not one limited to the death of the person doing it.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I only put it in religious
December 27, 2007 - 15:07 ET by Hero SquadI only put it in religious terms since most of the suicide bombers referenced are doing so.
Hmm. Not to counter my own argument, but I guess you could say that "suicide bomber" only implies that the bomber killed himself.
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
Correct. I don't like the
December 27, 2007 - 15:09 ET by tracheostomyCorrect. I don't like the use of "homicide bomber" either. In its intent to clarify, the term becomes totally confusing and redundant.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
On Homicide Bombers
December 28, 2007 - 01:17 ET by UnsaneFox explained why they use that phrase and for me it works. It to me is a reminder that the guy/gal that does the deed isn't doing it just to kill themselves (which can just as easily be achieved at home or an open area with no one else around).
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Hey Hero... Hope you
December 27, 2007 - 15:11 ET by bigtimerHey Hero...
Hope you don't mind me chucklin' here, hopefully with you kind sir.
I'm just kind of gettin' a kick out of this all....the different definitions and how we all see it through our eyes.
Words are all we have BT.
December 27, 2007 - 15:15 ET by tracheostomyWords are all we have BT. Distorting the language for hyperbole/rhetoric sake is a form of deception IMO.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Chuckles are what I'm all
December 27, 2007 - 15:18 ET by Hero SquadChuckles are what I'm all about, BT.
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
How about "Homicide/Suicide
December 29, 2007 - 01:27 ET by fitzfongHow about "Homicide/Suicide Bomber"? It would seem to cover all the bases.
Hero
December 27, 2007 - 14:57 ET by Airforce_5_OBut in the eyes of the martyr it is not a sin. By calling it Homicide degrades the act to them. Extreemist Muslims only see glory in the act of suicide.
Homicide makes it a demeaned act.
So do you want to use the
December 27, 2007 - 15:12 ET by JasonCSo do you want to use the homicide version simply to deny the bomber the adjectival prefix that he had in mind? So you can "demean" him? There has been far too much of this coining of neologisms in the WoT, in my opinion. Similar to how people disapproved of the term "insurgents" in Iraq and wanted them to be referred to simply as "terrorists", even though there are broad and obvious differences between those who organized to fight our troops in Iraq and run-of-the-mill terrorists. This is what I mean about re-envisioning things ideologically. Isn't it just a weird inversion of the goals of PC language?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Welcome to English
December 28, 2007 - 01:20 ET by UnsaneThere has been far too much of this coining of neologisms JasonC, welcome to the English language, humanity's largest language.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Murder-suicide attack?
December 28, 2007 - 08:51 ET by Hero SquadI heard an even more apt description on a radio report last evening: "Murder-suicide attack."
That, to me, accomplishes everything we have been discussing here. (Unfortunately, I probably returned too late to the party for anyone to notice.)
*****
"There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask questions." - Chris Berman
Unsane, you're one to be
December 28, 2007 - 17:41 ET by JasonCUnsane, you're one to be boasting about English comprehension, considering you took my statement completely out of context, not even bothering to complete the sentence I wrote. Yeah, that's it, I think we should just stop allowing new words and phrases into the English lexicon. If you want to swoop in and try to put me in my place with a one-sentence zinger, at least be honest about it. You can start with my reply to your barely-worth-replying-to statement about my "relentless hatred of capitalism."
Oh, and Chinese is more widely spoken, smart guy. Of course, your statement is so vague and pointless that I don't know if by "largest" you mean most commonly spoken or simply range of diction. Just letting you know.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
JasonC, I am disappointed
December 28, 2007 - 23:58 ET by UnsaneJasonC, lighten the f*!k up. I was merely highlighting your upset at neologisms, because we ALL have to get used to them no matter the purpose.
I might be guilty of changing the subject but that is all.
And, my dear hyper-intellectual, Chinese is the MOST WIDELY SPOKEN LANGUAGE. When I said English is the “world’s largest language”, I meant that as literally as possible. English is the world’s largest language. For example, French has something like 100,000 words. English, last time I checked, has 750,000 words. Hence, the world’s largest language.
You were saying something about “reading comprehension”?
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Most neologisms in the WoT,
December 29, 2007 - 13:33 ET by JasonCMost neologisms in the WoT, such as "Homicide Bomber" serve the singular purpose of allowing us to reinscribe accepted terms with our own ideological veneer. It's the new PC.
As to the "largest language", yes, you are correct, and I alluded to that.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Sure .. because as we know
December 29, 2007 - 13:42 ET by Jack BauerSure .. because as we know Suicide Bomber has a long history, being first coined in the Bible.
And who can ever forget the Shakespeare sonnet: Love Doth Come Like A Suicide Bomber on a Summer's Morn
How dare people try to invest a new phrase to replace this eon's old example of the beautiful English language.
Confused...
December 30, 2007 - 00:35 ET by UnsaneAnd the problem with that is what? There was a neologism created in German in the 1920s that was coined for a political purpose.
This is English. Neologisms are coined for less in this language.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Here is what Fred Thompson
December 27, 2007 - 13:47 ET by bigtimerHere is what Fred Thompson had to say regarding the assassination of Bhutto...and here is AL Qaeda claiming they did the assassination.
At least Fred gets it...
December 27, 2007 - 13:56 ET by Jack BauerAt least Fred gets it... which is a lot more than many
Exactly the real
December 27, 2007 - 14:02 ET by bigtimerExactly the real point Jack.
I agree Jack
December 27, 2007 - 14:19 ET by Airforce_5_OThis is not just Iraq. It is all over and the enemy wants to kill us. They had progress and they hate any Doctrine outside of Sharia Law.
We need someone who get it in the White House and the Dems are not it.
AF... Bingo! Thompson/Hu
December 27, 2007 - 14:24 ET by bigtimerAF...
Bingo!
Thompson/Hunter '08!
BT
December 27, 2007 - 14:34 ET by Airforce_5_OGood day,
I am down to 2 people I want to vote for. Fred is one of them. Still waiting to make up my mind but I like Fred so I am torn right now who I will vote for.
We will see.
AF... If for some reason
December 27, 2007 - 14:38 ET by bigtimerAF...
If for some reason Thompson doesn't make it....Romney is my number two choice so far.
Unfortunately Hunter doesn't have the money and msm attention....and John Bolton isn't running...dang it all anyway...lol.
BT
December 27, 2007 - 14:49 ET by Airforce_5_OTo bad Chaney isn't running, now that would piss some leftiods off for sure!!!!
anyone else notice?
December 27, 2007 - 14:33 ET by pwoz78 users on, over 2000 visiting? they must all be wetting themselves and trying to come up with excuses on their 0 viewed blogs
pwoz... Okay...I'm not
December 27, 2007 - 14:40 ET by bigtimerpwoz...
Okay...I'm not following ya here...
What are you talking about when you say 0 viewed blogs?
heh
December 27, 2007 - 15:12 ET by pwozi was poking at them... perhaps "0 credibility blogs"?
yup
December 27, 2007 - 14:47 ET by mvfreemanCause there are a ton of people on over at this blog:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/
Now Online:
3,192
Logged in:
341
Huckabee, what a loser...
December 27, 2007 - 15:10 ET by Clear thinkerCan you believe this, Huckabee actually appologizes for Bhutto's murder...
http://fredthompsonnews.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckster-apologizes-for-bhotto.html
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Ct... Right in line with
December 27, 2007 - 15:21 ET by bigtimerCt...
Right in line with the other leftists here in this country that are always apologizing to other countries for something we are perceived to have done...no matter how long ago or far-away.
....never-ending, reminds me of Bill Clintoon biting his lower lip and shedding a phony tear or two...I'm sorry I feel your pain speech, whether it was here in this country, say a funeral for instance or in another country kissing arse.
Anything for a vote...that is what the Huckster is and has been doing, as you well know.
Huckabee: another "blame America firster"
December 27, 2007 - 15:25 ET by RJCan we hope for a Howard Dean meltdown, so we can see the back end of this guy?
RJ... I'm sure hoping for
December 27, 2007 - 15:29 ET by bigtimerRJ...
I'm sure hoping for that very thing in Iowa!
I want to see the Huckster get Hucked!!
Not far off now either...
I am looking forward to this this year...I am also anticipating the delicious reactions from the blathering know-it-all talking heads too....
-
December 27, 2007 - 21:18 ET by dahliatraversSay what you want about Huckabee but leave Howard Dean alone! That scream was priceless ...
Just more proof that
December 27, 2007 - 15:59 ET by Gary P JacksonJust more proof that Huckabee is a poor choice for anyone's vote. Who doesn't think Huck's "apology" will be used against America? No way, no how, is this guy qualified to be President.
This assassination proves again we need strong leaders with strong backbones to lead this Nation. I will probably get flamed for this, but it is a shame Bush can't run again. There are few people in public life that have the fortitude he has, when it comes to standing up when it counts the most.
Keeping the same thought going, it IS too bad Cheney isn't running. I think he would win hands down.
Who caught Paul Krugman
December 27, 2007 - 15:39 ET by tracheostomyWho caught Paul Krugman hedging on Charlie Rose today? Fun interview. He looked like a deer in headlights on a couple points. Rose wasn't throwing softballs either. If there were an interview that I'd like the typical lib to watch, this is it.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Trach... here's the Krugman link
December 27, 2007 - 15:59 ET by Gary HallI haven't had the time to watch it yet, the interview can be viewed here: Charlie Rose interviews Paul Krugman. (;~> gary
Awesome. Thanks. Hope
December 27, 2007 - 16:15 ET by tracheostomyAwesome. Thanks. Hope someone makes a blog out of this one.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Thanks for the Link
December 27, 2007 - 23:19 ET by pbthinkerAfter watching that interview, I don't think any of the Democrats will be asking him for economic advice, or at least they won't be advertising that fact. All we have to do now is hope they don't win, since guys like him will be determining economic policy.
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
Leon the mouse
December 27, 2007 - 16:45 ET by MrShyAaah, Leon, my lab-experiment rodent, you gave me precisely the results I predicted. You bit the bait and countered with the Shy stuff (and you really do have obsessive tendencies -- what's with you and your fixation on that "African American" woman?)
Anyway, everyone is right about you: a dim, overly-obnoxious, tragically hip but clueless, too-much-time-on-his-hands, liberal weenie bathroom dweller.
(PS: had to move out of the "kiddie porn" thread you and the other liberal perverts evidently can't get enough of... it's now a Leon-wasteland freezing my browser.)
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Mr Shy, I mean could
December 27, 2007 - 16:51 ET by LeonMr Shy,
I mean could there really be any other response for a guy that:
1) is 40
2) sells cheap thongs on the internet for a career
3) trolls myspace begging strangers to be his friend
I literally gave the only possible response to your post.
Anytime you try to say anything serious about politics or liberal media bias or philosophy or art or whatever, I just think of the three points above and realize, who cares what this guy thinks?
1) is 40
December 27, 2007 - 17:10 ET by MrShy1) is 40
WOW!! Wait, I'm not 20 or 25? Whatever my age is, this meeeeeans.......? Not quite sure how age validates or invalidates me or any other NB contributor, other than I might actually know more than you.
2) sells cheap thongs on the internet for a career
OMG!!! I sell clothing merchandise that includes underwear? Serious?? Hey, if thong underwear bothers you (lover of underage girls w/o shirts), then I order you to also go tar and feather my mirror-image-of-Leon brother -- another liberal moron with the same pretentious, glib take on art and music. His company cranked out underwear with their logo on them. You can thank him for the idea.
3) trolls myspace begging strangers to be his friend
Haha.
No Leon, YOU troll. That I have 23 thousand myspace friends bothers you, I know, but that's some insecurity issue you'll have to iron out on your own, in your bathroom of course :)
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Mr Shy, 1) No I bring
December 27, 2007 - 17:20 ET by LeonMr Shy,
1) No I bring up your age b/c it's funny to watch a 40 year old guy still trying to make in the music industry via myspace. Great idea. 20 years ago! But don't worry, you're in good company with every other highschool kid and college drop-out that headed to MySpace to hit the big time.
2) You sell CHEAP clothing on the internet. Thongs don't bother me at all when they're on my ladies, I just wouldn't want to sell them. Esp. not tacky cotton monstrosities over the internet. Activity number 2 that you're engaged in that every young 20 year old that doesn't want to grow up and get a real job does to pretend they're actually doing something.
3) I have 23,000 friends on myspace! haha. Oh my I'm so jealous of all your fake friends that you solicted to become your friends. In fact, guys like you are one of the reasons that MySpace is getting dominated by Facebook. People get tired of constantly being harassed by strangers such as Mr Shy begging them to be their friend, so they leave. Your message begging for friendship generally comes with all the other stripper friend invites people get on MySpace. Stripper, stripper, MrShy, stripper, call girl, stripper. What you do on MySpace is the equivalent of door to door begging. Please be my friend so I can brag to other strangers that I have more friends I don't know than they do!
LEON & "HIS LADIES"
December 27, 2007 - 17:29 ET by MrShyYou're obsessive-compulsive. I know this, because I know people with this disorder.
You really have done a hellava trolling/investigating job into my myspace page AND my merchandise (yes, my thongs are 100% cotton, thank you.)
But, the clincher..... THIS, everyone, is priceless:
Thongs don't bother me at all when they're on my ladies...
Leon, you're dumb. But you're also a riot.
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Well MrShy, We're a great
December 27, 2007 - 17:32 ET by LeonWell MrShy,
We're a great couple.
You're pathetic and not funny at all.
I guess Paula Abdul was right. Opposites do attract.
Leon
December 27, 2007 - 17:45 ET by MrShyYou talentless, blog trolling lifer. You can not live it down. Your creepy, icky words:
Thongs don't bother me at all when they're on my ladies...
Btw, in all seriousness, are you in touch at all with your comrade in arms boyfriend from the west side? Professor TP&C?
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Mr Shy, 1) I'm
December 27, 2007 - 17:58 ET by LeonMr Shy,
1) I'm talentless yet you're almost to retirement age and you're still trying to start a music career. Nota Bene: Friends on MySpace do not equal fans. haha. Clearly if you had a talent, you would have put it to good use by age 40 and you wouldn't be begging for internet friends. It will definitely be sweet though once you start collecting social security, you won't have to sell crappy thongs anymore and you can just focus on your music.
2) I have no idea who the Professor is. I don't know any posters on this blog in real life. Only as Orange Names on a screen.
3) The Paula Abdul comment was gold.
4) I go on the internet for fun. You go on the internet to try to make money to survive. You reek of desperation. How many MrShy thongs did you sell this Christmas season? All the Wall Street analysts said it was a hot ticket item. Lines around the block to get them. People morgatging their homes! Pure mayhem!!
5) All of your attacks against me are speculation b/c you actually know nothing about me. Meanwhile, all of my attacks against you are true and people can see for themselves b/c you put yourself out there. Interesting decision. If I hadn't done anything with my life in the first 40 years I'm not so sure I'd be as excited to share my lack of accomplishment with 3,000 daily viewers.
Leon
December 27, 2007 - 18:02 ET by MrShyI'm talentless
:)
You're right, I have been speculating, but I don't need to anymore. Thank you.
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
6) You also suffer from a
December 27, 2007 - 18:05 ET by Leon6) You also suffer from a lack of reading comprehension. 'Yet' does have a meaning when used in a sentence.
MrShy. Whoa I almost feel bad about pointing out the reality of your situation as if I'm being overly mean, but then I realize, no, that really is your life.
Leon
December 27, 2007 - 18:16 ET by MrShyNo, I saw the "yet", but that doesn't suffice, so you exposed yourself. But I'll help you out here. In the future try:
I'm "talentless", yet....
or
I'm talentless, yet....
Any way you slice it, I still stand by my speculation (fine, sue me, I am speculating) that you lack talent in anything. If you don't, put it out there. Myspace, Facebook, whatever. I'm curious :)
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Leon... again
December 27, 2007 - 18:10 ET by MrShyI'm sorry, but you're serving up one after another on a silver platter:
I go on the internet for fun.
........ we don't need to know.
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Scratch my previous comment
December 28, 2007 - 08:41 ET by Roger the ShrubberScratch my previous comment about people qouting Paula Abdul being mildly-retarded.
People who qoute Paula Abdul then boast about how clever and astute that qoute is fall into the diaper-and-hockey-helmet-wearing functionally-retarded category.
We're a great couple. I
December 27, 2007 - 17:47 ET by MrShyWe're a great couple.
I guess Paula Abdul was right. Opposites do attract.
?
Also, that would win the NB award for icky/creepy and not funny at all.
We bid a fond farewell to Professor Talking Points & Cheetos
Actually, I do believe
December 27, 2007 - 19:37 ET by Roger the ShrubberActually, I do believe anybody quoting Paula Abdul is midly-retarded. What's next, Paris Hilton quotes?
-
December 27, 2007 - 21:16 ET by dahliatravers"That's hot."
"Activity number 2 that
December 27, 2007 - 23:26 ET by ckc1227"Activity number 2 that you're engaged in that every young 20 year old
that doesn't want to grow up and get a real job does to pretend they're
actually doing something"
"Real jobs" are overrated. What is a real job, by the way, working your butt off making someone else rich? No thanks, I'll pass. Besides, I couldn't afford the pay cut.
Mr S. I think Leon is
December 27, 2007 - 19:57 ET by Jack BauerMr S. I think Leon is mistaking you for me...
If you'll remember I did tout my lucrative sideline a while back...
www.iym2sexy4mythong...
Maybe I'll go into used thongs next. I hear the Japanese love that pervert stuff.
Paging Leon
December 27, 2007 - 21:20 ET by Del DolemonteFor those who missed it last night, here's a response to Leon's Juan Cole nonsense Wednesday:
http://www.floppinga...
Good find, Del.
December 28, 2007 - 08:35 ET by Roger the ShrubberGood find, Del.
Oh goody, Ron Paul is
December 27, 2007 - 16:45 ET by bigtimerOh goody,
Ron Paul is going to tell us what we (the U.S.) should do now with the death of Bhutto...he is going to be speaking with Wolfie Blitzer in a few minutes on CNN.
BT, What gives? I make
December 27, 2007 - 16:48 ET by LeonBT,
What gives?
I make an entire post about Ron Paul being a brutal racist thinking that you would love me, and I get nothing. Not even a peep.
What's a guy have to do to get on your good side? I figured I'd be in like Flint with some good old fashioned Ron Paul bashing.
Hi Little One.. I never
December 27, 2007 - 16:57 ET by bigtimerHi Little One..
I never saw you piece of work.
Leon... Well for once we
December 27, 2007 - 17:08 ET by bigtimerLeon...
Well for once we agree here...I also agree with Unsane about Paul's bigotry towards Israel ect.
You should put your link/post out here for others who may have missed it.
Hey BT, I've always said I
December 27, 2007 - 17:13 ET by LeonHey BT,
I've always said I hate scumbags.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2007/12/26/open-thread#comment-508406
I just had no idea Ron Paul was a scum bag. What a drag too, I thought he was interesting and fun to watch. Not so anymore.
Well Leon...I used to
December 27, 2007 - 17:20 ET by bigtimerWell Leon...
I used to like to listen to him regarding some matters, especially the Constitution, this was on the House floor though over the years... but anymore even his whine in his voice is getting to me anymore where I can barely get through his blithering blather on the shows he is on.
Retreat for Defeat should be his motto like I said in another thread somewhere regarding his spiel.
Btw...glad you saw the light in this regard anyway...lol.
BT, I agree about the
December 27, 2007 - 17:23 ET by LeonBT,
I agree about the Constitution issues and that's why I originally found him interesting, but to be honest, I hadn't heard much about him until earlier this year. That's when I learned what he was all about.
And I was picking up what he was putting down, but it all sounds like BS in the context of these racist comments.
Also I'll have to agree that he does sound pretty whiny. But I kind of liked that. Before it was a defiant sort of whine, but now that it's a racist sort of whine, I'm no longer interested.
Check again
December 28, 2007 - 01:26 ET by UnsaneUm, you MIGHT remember some post by some guy named Unsane pointing out that Ron Paul more or less hates Israel.
Now, I know I'm not bigtimer, but I figured that would count for SOMETHING.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Missed it, BT
December 27, 2007 - 16:54 ET by RJWhat did he have to say?
RJ... LOL..see above.
December 27, 2007 - 16:58 ET by bigtimerRJ...
LOL..see above.
Many undecided voters in Iowa and NH
December 27, 2007 - 16:51 ET by RJAccording to new surveys, it's wide open.
"Just 38 percent of Republicans and 52 percent of Democrats in Iowa have decided whom to support, the most recent CNN poll indicates, while the rest are either undecided or only leaning toward a candidate and thus open to persuasion.
"In New Hampshire, where the primary comes five days after Iowa, only 28 percent of likely Democratic voters and 35 percent of Republicans have made up their minds, according to a Globe survey published Sunday."
Hey RJ... I heard these
December 27, 2007 - 17:13 ET by bigtimerHey RJ...
I heard these kind of numbers late last week somewhere...I think Thompson is going to do much better than people think, I don't know about NH but I think the rest from here on out may surprise some people, especially the talking heads...
If he does the long knives are out...again only sharpened to the max.
I am surprised that many
December 27, 2007 - 17:39 ET by Right2thePointI am surprised that many have made up their mind.
Most of the candidates on both sides are just throwing out politico speechisms. Talk for half an hour and say nothing in the process but broad stroke generalities. Hillary throws out the program idea of the day and backtracks a couple of days later after the flash polls are in.
Having heard to many of those speeches over the years you might as well be trying to nail jello to a tree.
I knew they couldn't make
December 27, 2007 - 17:42 ET by Right2thePointI knew they couldn't make it all day.
Firedog Lake and HuffPo are starting to get a few fraying around the edges postings starting to show up.
The really really far left ones that are way left of Kos and Co are moving from low rumble , passed through shock and outrage and now are working a bit of the conspiracy angles.
Hi R2... I knew it too...
December 27, 2007 - 17:48 ET by bigtimerHi R2...
I knew it too... I too posted the same earlier...I cannot wreck my day by reading these looney leftist twits...they never quit.
Pathetic all...
I don't go hunting them
December 27, 2007 - 19:47 ET by Right2thePointI don't go hunting them unless I am working on a particular topic , but I have them in my RSS reader to get me generally informed on what they say day to day.
Basically I just scan each post as it comes in unless it catches my eye in some way then I double click it in my reader which opens a new tab in firefox to load the source posting.
Here's a comforting thought
December 27, 2007 - 19:46 ET by Jack BauerHere's a comforting thought care of Mark Steyn...
Yeah, and these are the same geniuses who are currently bollixing Israel into a corner regarding the Palestinian entity. AGAIN.
Most of them are career Democrats, of course. They also refused to pressure Musharaff into allowing US protection details to guard her.
Jack... Excellent
December 27, 2007 - 20:05 ET by bigtimerJack...
Excellent info in your post.
Steyn is one of my fav's and this is dead on.... along with your comments...IMHO.
I have always said the Stare dept. should be abolished....heck they'd just affix themselves somewhere else in the govt. I suppose.
Christmas and the ACLU
December 27, 2007 - 20:28 ET by pbthinkerDId I miss something, or was this Christmas pretty quiet, as far as the ACLU is concerned. Stores, notably Walmart, returned to saying Merry Christmas, there were Christmas shops, and I don't recall hearing one lawsuit from the ACLU. DId I miss something?
If I didn't miss something, I wonder if the Democrats put the squash, on one of their favorite contituencies, until after the elections, next November? I don't believe there's anyone , when they hear of a lawsuit from the ACLU, that doesn't think about the Democrats. Sort of makes you wonder, eh?
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
Most environmentalist are
December 27, 2007 - 21:28 ET by ConservativeRexMost environmentalist are liberal, I think we can all agree on that point. As such, most liberals believe in evolution or Darwin's theory on evolution at any rate, as well.
Recently a mass of dolphins beached themselves in Australia. As soon as this mass of beached dolphins was discovered, an even larger mass of environmentalist rushed to the scene to push said dolphins back onto the sea so they could swim away.
Now, for being such fervent believers in evolution, why did they not leave the dolphins alone on the beach? Maybe they were trying to "walk" away from the sea and these knuckleheads kept pushing them back in... I'm just saying..:-) Have a Happy New Year!!
Environmentalists are
December 27, 2007 - 23:02 ET by CortillaenEnvironmentalists are inherantly hypocritical in that respect: They espouse letting things happen naturally but have no qualms about interfering to "help things along" whenever things don't fit their gradeschooler's view of nature.
There's a line of questioning in that direction I really want to ask someone who is both an environmentalist and an atheist, but I'm having a hard time finding anyone to question. Maybe they sense the natural predator of their ideology: Logical thought... Ah, well, keep safe over the calander change, and, on the off-chance of offending some anti-Christian nitwit, a belated merry Christmas! ;-)
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
College Football
December 27, 2007 - 21:39 ET byTexas 21 Arizona St 7 watch it here
"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger
That game was quite the
December 28, 2007 - 08:17 ET by Roger the ShrubberThat game was quite the defensive struggle....
Fun to watch, though!
Did anyone see Thompson on
December 27, 2007 - 22:31 ET by bigtimerDid anyone see Thompson on H&C tonight?
There isn't a link yet last I looked but it was really great, he said everything I wished the President would say more often about the war we are really in now.
Check Fox later for anyone interested, it will be there.
I got to get...
BT -- yep, Thompson looked
December 28, 2007 - 06:31 ET by Jack BauerBT -- yep, Thompson looked and sounded terrific. Tanned (for the image conscious), but also very informed and authoratative.
BBC World Blames George Bush for Terrorism
December 28, 2007 - 00:02 ET by Lame CherryIn the Thursday evening of BBC World which was the fiction of Bhutto's assassination instead of the reality, the BBC claimed it had over 100,000 emails from "mourners" who for some reason emailed the BBC.
They of course read ones which praised mob rule and praised Bhutto, but the one which got the big exposure of "just a letter" which was supposed to represent the mail said:
Since President Musharrif has had a relationship with George Bush Pakistan HAS HAD MORE TERRORISM.
Only took 12 hours and the BBC once again sinks to lows in blaming George Bush for terrorism.
ABC on Nightline though took a different approach in repeating the obvious that al Qaeda assassinated Bhutto, but swerved into that America in the communist State Department has cut Musharrif adrift as he is not credible..........and then they OUTED THE NEW HEAD OF THE PAK military as American trained and CIA backed.
Yeah that is really a good idea in telling the world our best asset in Pakistan.
If the Justice Department is gleaning this site for terrorists, please will you show some moxy and arrest Brian Ross and the idiots at the State Department as they have no business leaking information that will get American assets murdered.
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Anniversary
December 28, 2007 - 01:29 ET by UnsaneTen years ago tonight, I remember well watching Jacksonville getting destroyed by the Broncos, avenging their embarrassing loss of the season before. The Broncos killed them 42-17.
And that was the beginning of the Broncos amazing Super Bowl run.
The way my boys are playing now...well...it seems like longer than 10 years...
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Un, Un, Un. Why did you have
December 28, 2007 - 08:16 ET by Roger the ShrubberUn, Un, Un. Why did you have to bring up that playoff run? Now you have me all depressed. My Steeler had just beaten the dreaded Patsies by a point, and now had only one home game against a wild-card Bronco team in the way between the Black and Gold and another Super Bowl.
Your damn Broncos made Kordell Stewart look like, well, an even WORSE QB than he was. I think he threw 3 int's. We couldn't stop Terrel Davis, either!
Another Steeler homegame choke during the early Cowher era, and that loss hurt even more than when your dam Broncos beat Bubby Brister's Steelers by one point in '89. Merril Hoge was a beast that day!
Cry me three rivers
December 29, 2007 - 00:06 ET by UnsaneOh, cue the violins!!! Your Steelers beat my Broncos in the AFC Championship in January 2006, AND beat a 13-3 Bronco team in the 1984 playoffs in the first round, AND dethroned the AFC Champion Broncos in the 1978 playoffs!!!
By the way Kordell Stewart overturned the ball 5 times. He also did some fumbles.
I respect and admire the fact you are a Steelers fan, for you are not a fan of the Chiefs, Raiders or Chargers. :-)
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Queue the Violins, Uns
December 29, 2007 - 00:13 ET by BlondeI have two words for you....and they're not "Maria Sharapova".
Tim Tebow.
P.S. I saw that commercial again twice today.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Damnit, no Cyrillic keyboard close by
December 29, 2007 - 00:17 ET by UnsaneFor once, a good commercial...AND I AM NOT SEEING IT!!! I may as well be in Korea!!!
(By the way, Tim Tebow is indeed Da Man. He is going to be SCARY next year, especially if you are an opposing SEC team!)
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Queue the Violins, Part II
December 29, 2007 - 00:23 ET by BlondeYeah, yeah, yeah. Or how did you put it to Rog? Cry me three rivers? LOL.
Timmy a force of nature.
Not a bad year...and I'm not that greedy of a Blonde that I insist on 4 in a row.
Note to danbo....LSU better beat OSU. The SEC rules.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
and how bout
December 29, 2007 - 00:30 ET byArizona State U? or rather UT?
"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger
haha That 1984 game was a
December 29, 2007 - 08:44 ET by Roger the Shrubberhaha
That 1984 game was a shining moment in Mark Malone's unspectacular career! If I remember corrrectly, Dan Marino destroyed the Steelers a week later.
The 1978 Steelers team has been argued to have been one of the greatest teams of all-time, so no shame there! I believe your guys beat my guys the year before, that year the Broncs went on to lose to Dallas in the Super Bowl.
I never thought of this before, but I guess the Steelers and Broncs have faced each other in the playoffs ALOT!
Playoff history
December 30, 2007 - 00:43 ET by UnsaneIndeed, they have. The very first playoff victory my Broncos ever had was against the Steelers, as you noted, in 1977.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
I'm learning a lot more
December 28, 2007 - 06:27 ET by Jack BauerI'm learning a lot more about Benazir Bhutto from Debbie Schlussel, and it's not pretty.
Including information about her possible involvement in the murder of her own brother -- who himself, was not a nice man. In fact, the Bhuttos seem a bad lot all round.
Much of this supports the postings of Lame Cherry here.
Check it out at: www.debbieschlussel....