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For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Racial Under Current is Seen in Clinton Campaign:

[A]n important development in the 2008 Democratic battle may be the building backlash among African Americans over comments from associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton that could be construed as jabs at Sen. Barack Obama's race.

These officials, including Clinton aides and prominent surrogates, have raised questions or dropped references about Obama's position on sentencing guidelines for crack vs. powder cocaine offenses; on his handgun control record; and on his admitted use of drugs as a youth. The context was always Obama's "electability." But the Illinois senator's campaign advisers said some African American leaders detect a pattern, and they believe it could erode Clinton's strong base of black support.

Is this a fair criticism of Hillary's campaign, or a stretch? Will this impact her success as a candidate, especially if media outlets like the Post focus on it?

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Well

Im the first one to want to take a crack at hillary, but i get disgusted when others play the race card, so it would be hypocrtitical for me to stoop to that level.

That kind of simplistic

That kind of simplistic analysis would lead one to believe that in your eyes race can never be a factor in anyone's motives. Or that even if it IS a factor you would be loathe to call them on it for some esoteric reasons. That IMO is silly. There are racists in the world you know and sometimes they do things. Everyone who alleges an act of racism is not a liar or a "race hustler", open your eyes and look around man. Just because you have a negative opinion of the actions of Sharpton or Jackson shouldn't prevent YOU from being able to make a truthful judgement of whether or not race is being used against someone. Unless you think no one ever uses race against ANYONE, which again IMO, would be "silly".

Well race can certainly be

Well race can certainly be a factor, and of course there are racists out there. A lot of times people claim race as an issue in a certain area, when in fact it isnt. I dont think that Hillary has done anything racist towards obama, so i think claiming she has would be "playing the race card"

I understand what you mean, and would have to be an idiot to think that race is never used against someone. But it is often played as an issue when it really isnt, and this is one of those times.

 

"give me a break!" - John Stossel

Either One=disaster

Race doesn't matter; gender doesn't matter.Yet both of them will play those cards. "Liberals" are hypocrites. Either one of these "liberals" will be a disaster for this nation and for our pocketbooks.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" 

Did all of you people take

Did all of you people take "ignorance pills" this morning or something? OF COURSE race "matters" and of course gender matters! You people seem to imagine this color blind society that doesn't exist ANYWHERE but in your ( God bless you for it!) charitable hearts! I will submit that the NB readers and posters are a fine group of individuals who both KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN the constitution and honor it. That said, that's a far cry from the rest of the country or world. Conservatives have LONG been the champions of a color blind society but exactly who have you been fighting? Answer: the REST of the WORLD! If as you allege race doesn't matter, let's consult Madison Ave, do they think race matters? When's the first time you saw a t.v commercial with an inter-racial family? Notice I asked when's the "first" time and not when's the "last" time, because it hasn't happened yet! What about all those people who say they're against inter-racial marriage? These are people who are so vile that they oppose OTHER people marrying outside their race! Nevertheless, where Madison Ave puts it's dough is where the culture currently IS, perhaps that's not where we'd like it to be but that's the "reality on the ground". Before you call me a race hustler please just examine the argument, okay? List all of the advertising campaigns that feature inter-racial couples of the black and white variety. As an owner of a production company in California I can tell you that it hasn't happened. Notice that I separated the "commercial" aspect from the "production" aspect. There are a few interracial couples on a few t.v shows in minor story lines, this is different from direct ad dollars in an advertising campaign. There are currently FOUR commercials out of THOUSANDS that now feature an Asian woman with a White man and that's been called "courageous, by those in the industry.  As for "gender" not mattering, that's absurd! Of course GENDER matters. There are real differences between men and women unlike the imaginary differences between those of like gender but different race. If you think Magaret Thatcher would have been elected to fight Hitler, you're crazy! Big difference between a cold and "hot" war, pally. To wit: Muslims keep their women as chattel. We are facing a radical Muslim threat. The opinion of our enemies certainly matters does it not?  I mean, that's why they gave back the hostages when Reagan was elected right? You think they'd have done the same if it were Hillary? Or even Condi? Doubtful to say the least. I would NEVER vote for a woman to lead MEN. It's against nature and it's against the Word of God. Being of a different race, is not.  And yes, I know that there were racists that tried to mis-use the bible to further racist goals but the actual scriptures themselves don't support that and never did. Don't fall for the liberal p.c. garbage that "all things are the same". That junk has them outlawing the use of the words MOTHER and FATHER in California schools RIGHT NOW.

Good post, Keith.  And you

Good post, Keith.  And you are 100% correct.   EVERYTHING matters, because we are mere people.  And as such, we vote for those with whom we most associate ourselves.

As a Greek, I still can't get over those Greeks I knew back  then who voted for Nixon just because his candidate for Vice President was  Spiro Agnew, another Greek. 

 

 

"You people"

"You people"--how dare you use that language! LOL

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

BTW, you misread my post. I was saying that race and gender does matter to them. Learn to read, Keith.

Merry Christmas

Here's a little Christmas Card to all of my NB friends.

Love those Clydesdales.  This is one of my favorite videos.

Merry Christmas, all...or Happy Hannukah...whatever floats your boat. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Brings me back!

Thank you, Blonde, for them warm wishes! Right back atcha! That link brought me back to Bush Gardens in Williamsburg, Va. Awesome horses...you can feed 'em and everything!

As far as these nutcase socialists go, I'm just so sick of calling a green gumball with a sign on it reading " i am not a green gumball", a green gumball. Its alls I can stands, cuz I can't stands no more!

There's nothing left but prayer, Children.

Nice Video Blonde

Merry Christmas and Happy Hannakah to you and everyone else.

Great video, Blonde! I was

Great video, Blonde! I was laughing out loud halfway through!

Here's another, more sentimental one that a friend sent me...very sweet.

Merry Christmas to all. (I think Hannukkah is over, isn't it?)

Merry Christmas to you, too, and...

...Go Blue!  That's in case I forget to mention that before New Year's Day.

Merry Christmas to all

This is one song i listen to every year.  It encompasses the mystery, the beauty, the frailty, and the humanity of the blessed event which is celebrated as Christmas

btw ruach is the hebrew word for breath, spirit, life, wind ....

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

Wow! That song and video

Wow! That song and video are just awesome. I mean that not in the "totally awsome" sense , but as in the original meaning...awe-inspiring.

Thanks for posting the link...have a blessed Christmas.

MB

yeah, it hits me, that's why i posted it.  Actually, it's the first time i've seen the video but i've had the song for years. 

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

NUTS

Our resident historian, Roger, didn't publish a Shrub Report for yesterday. It, the 22nd, was the anniversary of General McCalife's famous word,"NUTS", to the German commander at Bastonge when he asked for the 101st Airborne surrender. It meant "Go to Hell." It thought it approriate because the libs don't want us to say Merry Christmas we can say NUTS. Feel free to say NUTS to who every you want.

NUTS to: Harry Reid for taking credit for the calm in Iraq.

To: Hillary on the remake of herself.

To: Overbite for being such an a-hole.

 

 "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.

NUTS

Best of all, "NUTS" was met with confusion on the part of German intelligence officers.  They struggled to figure out what he meant by that.

All would find out soon enough... 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

racial undertones

You can bet your bottom $ there are undertones coming out of Ms clintons campaign...they just haven't figured out who is to be the fall guy for the innuendo.. They will and soon- count on it.
She is not;
Warm
Experienced
Feminist
Honest
Bill
Thatcher
Ghandi
Believable
What has she got;;;;Attacks and slander and character assasination, bill, chelsa, her mom,and the diehard dem's.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH>> KICK HER TO THE CURB>

Enough!

"Enough is Enough"---you betcha!

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Although I have no truck

Although I have no truck for her Thighness, it is a stretch. It would be the same stretch if women thought that the other candidates were "piling on" Hillary (now, there's a disgusting image) when they gig her for her four or five flip-flops in two minutes on the issue of driver's licenses for illegal aliens. Hillary has the same far-left positions on the issues as Barak, especially on gun issues, nationalized health care, and abortion. She is even further left on economic issues (read Marxist). About the only thing she hasn't flip-flopped on is her support for the War on Terror. In her rhetoric she has flip-flopped, but her votes in the Senate have remained consistent, so I think she has been lying her @** off to the kook-base of the Party on this issue.

In my opinion, Barak is unqualified to be President because of his anti-gun stands (the President is supposed to defend and protect the Constitution, including the Second Amendment), and all the rest of his left to far-left positions.

There are a number of black people who might get my vote for President or Vice-President: Ward Connerly, J. C. Watts, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell. There are also a number of women who might get my vote for either of the two offices: Elizabeth Dole comes immediately to mind. Margaret Thatcher might be a good candidate, except for that born American Citizen requirement. (The People's Cube is saying that Vladimir Putin would be the ideal candidate for the Democrats. It's a funny article and I recommend it.)

So, it is a stretch for blacks to accuse the Wicked (rhymes with) Witch of racism. Her campaign would be smearing Edwards or Richardson, or any of the other candidates who were catching up/passing her in the polls.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Margaret Thatcher might

Margaret Thatcher might be a good candidate, except for that born American Citizen requirement.

Though she is the same citizenry as the first seven elected American Presidents, so maybe an exception could be made?

 

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

So far Oprah is pro-Obama

So far Oprah is pro-Obama and not anti-Hillary. If the Clinton campaign or its surrogates continue the negative drip, Oprah might be tempted to vent her “disappointment” (especially if she perceives a racial overtone). Hillary’s people must be concerned.

And the NBers know... if Obama takes the Democratic nomination (I have my money on Clinton), the Republican nominee will suffer the constant criticism of “racism” coming from the professional black victims we have known for years.

Something that no one

Something that no one touches on is what happens if Hillary wins. Obama for VP? Or do they freeze him out. If they do, what happens to the black vote? If he wins, how many of the so called “tolerant party” will not vote for a black person?

If Obama wins, what does he do with Hillary/Bill and all of their backing?

Not to mention Bill Richardson (Hispanic) of NM ? Loose the Hispanic vote if he is not used as VP..??

While we might be worried that we are not getting what we want.. a Reagan Republican, a least our choices are not: $hit, manure, or crap..

I think Fred is the pick for me.. I wish George Allen ran. Or even Newt. 

 

 

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

Blondi  right back at

Blondi right back at ya!Love the horses.. 

 

 

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

I just get the feeling that

I just get the feeling that something unexpected (and not in the good sense) will happen between now and then so I'm dragging all my bets off the table.

When did you stop beating your wife

I just blogged in this about Frank Rich getting a letter of protest from Bill Clinton in how all of it is the same thing from Mike Huckabee slamming Rush to this whispering campaign by Hillary against blacks.

All of it is intended to make the target crawl and make the one doing the attack advance their position "while looking independent and strong".

Huck attacks Rush and then offers to talk IF RUSH CALLS. That is making someone crawl to you after you brutalized them.

Hillary sends out jaded myths intentionally meant to slap black people back into line. White people do not hear the attacks, but every black person knows instinctively what she is saying and "it is the high tech whipping of blacks for daring to get off the plantation".

Hillary learned this "n*gger knockin'" from her rich liberal friends in college and in government. She got a high dose of refinement in Arkansas where "little white boss woman" learned how southern democrats maul blacks with a look.
Just look at Clarence Thomas' masterful work which is a wonderful read in how he was taught, "You do not look at a white woman".

Does Hillary's stare down GLARE which Newsbusters often features start ringing a bell in how she learned to slap the trailer trash and n*ggers back into place for "Yes'sum mam".

I apologize for those who do not like the N word, but it is used because Hillary and this ilk use it out of recording reach. She got caught early with her remarks about Jews, but is smarter now in gaurding what is allowed in public. The fact is these racists which permeate from David Letterman on down to Hillary all are technical bigots and racists..........oh they hire minorities, but in no difference than the olde plantation days when they brought the darkie up out of the shantie to parade around for cameras and then sent them away again once the "white folks" from up north seen how advanced us democratic folk were.

I have blogged enough in posts to track Barak Obama. He was deliberately chosen to be advanced by the liberals down to his achilles heal of HUSSEIN being his middle name in making enough percentage points in Americans be scared of his Muslim roots so he can be defeated.
He was given book deals, given elections and was given an invitation to the plantation house..........but when Obama looked around there were no name tags for him, no place cards at the dinner table and no over night bed for him to sleep in. Barak Obama though had a nice silver tray with drinks on it to "help himself" and while he was wandering around he could get drinks for Hillary, Edwards, Biden ect..... because all the black folk were looking in the windows seeing "one of their own was making it big".

Do not think for a moment that Al Sharpton's crooked ways just happened either. THIS FBI tactic was from Hillary's minions and the Rockefellers who by "investigating Sharpton" leave the impression of .........gee we know Jesse Jackson was a shakedown artist..........Sharpton is a shakedown artist........so by association that doped up, Muslim Obama is a crook too.
I fully expect the Obama girl to follow in this scam using the old southern attack that black men all are sexual perverts........this is going to get really nasty as Obama is not bright enough to know he is a waiter and not a guest in the race.

This is how the liberal leadership all view Obama. I doubt if Charlie Rangel would ever say this in public, but he knows very well just like every black what is going on here. Sure the Jack n Jills and the "are you blacker than a paper bag" crowd always will stick with the white power in knowing Obama is a waiter, but there are enough blacks now who dream that dream that they can have the prize and it is these off the plantation slaves which Hillary is cracking the whip to remind them the overseer is going to have Obama back to picking cotton by the end of August 2008.

Obama has been used and when he is done he will be carted out office and replaced with another more manageable black person.

It is the way it is.....and until blacks start voting for Conservative people who are trying to advance them, they are never going to get out from under the carpetbagger Hillary.

There is money and power made off of blacks keeping them where they are and the elitists behind it are not going to let this modern slavery go.

So don't complain about the messenger being a "racist", because it is not me in my minority status........the above are the factual actions of Hillary Clinton, the DNC, elitists and the cartels concerning black people.

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

I think

I think you are crazy

"give me a break!" - John Stossel

Interesting (and to me,

Interesting (and to me, racially disturbing) case over in New Jersey for everyone interested in the 2nd Amendment.

Especially when you consider the Texas incident when the white Joe Horn shot dead two black burglars.

Here's some of the report and the link...

Guilty verdict for black dad in shooting death of white teen on Long Island

Mr White testified during the trial that he was trying to protect his family when he brandished a gun last year after a group of angry white teens showed up at his doorstep late on Aug. 9, 2006, to confront his then-19-year-old son, Aaron.

John White had been sleeping inside his home in Miller Place, a predominantly white community in eastern Long Island, when Aaron woke him to say the youths were headed to their house, bent on beating him up because they wrongly believed he had threatened to rape Cicciaro's friend Jennifer Martin.

Minutes earlier, Aaron White had gotten into a fight with the boys after being asked to leave a house party.

The elder White first grabbed a shotgun, but then opted instead for a pistol he kept in his garage.

He and his son, who had picked up the shotgun, walked to the end of the driveway to confront the angry gang, who hurled racial epithets.

John White said his gun went off accidentally after Cicciaro lunged for it.

"He wanted to stop these people who said they were coming to kill his son," Brewington said in closing arguments.

Suffolk County Assistant District Attorney James Chalifoux said White should have simply locked the door and called police - and not gone outside.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Jack

Suffolk county is in New York, not New Jersey.

 

Newsbusters. Log on and find out What the heck is so yummy over here!

free -- thanks for the

free -- thanks for the correction. My mistake.

I don't know why I had NJ on my mind, maybe because the incident remined me of a scene in the final series of the Sopranos.

 

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Michelle Malkin has a great

Michelle Malkin has a great spoof of HRC's Christmas card commercial...called "A Very Hillary Christmas" ....take a look.

And think about it coming to pass.....BBRRBBRRRBBBRRR!!!

mb, the link doesn't go where you intended

It goes to a different commercial.

Link repaired

trach

Not sure if you wanted to talk more about this or not, but I got the feeling you wanted to talk about this administrations fiscal spending. IMO Bush did not Veto one bill until last November. We did not add 3.8 trillion to the debt by WOT and Iraq and Afghanistan alone. Let me touch on one of the wasteful progams I talked about before,

We are spending a staggering 176 million dollars a yr on abstinence only programs They want to increase it another 28 million dollars this year. I find these programs almost as ridiculus as giving birth control to 12 yr olds.

Proof this is not working is when was the last time your heard States have turned down money? Well at least 3 states have turned down free government money because they feel these progams do not work. It is like spending a staggering amount of money to wave a finger in front of a teenager saying no no.

Now before you accuse me of encouraging teenagers to have sex, nothing could be further from the truth. I am a parent and I cringe to think about what could happen when my child is a teenager. Of course abstinence is the best way of protecting kids from having sex, or disease. What harm is it to let them know of alternatives like condoms or birth control pills? It is not encouraging sex, it is letting them no that if they are going to do it at least use some protection.

 

Sigh. Let's just give up...right?

  It is not encouraging sex, it is letting them no that if they are going to do it at least use some protection.  Sure it does.  It sends a message that "hey, it's OK".  It needn't be a blatant message of "Honey, go ahead and do it", but the implicit approval of the behavior is there.  (A big reason why I want drugs to be kept nice and illegal.)

Instead of just throwing up our hands and giving up, why don't we make an effort to teach our children the virtues of postponing gratification until the right moment?

(I personally never wanted anything to do with impregnating a girl before I was good and ready.  Hence I kept my pants zipped during my school years.  Result?  No paternity suits...)

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Unsane the younger :-)

Unsane, I have to admit I am somewhat suprised that you disagree with me. Other yes but not you. Even with your position on legalizing drugs...i'm surprised. Your the one thats always talking about freedom. Yes we are talking about teenagers, but really what do they teach them that their parents do not? No does not mean go? Saving it for marriage? You will be none as a slu......ummm-------loose girl?

I encourage these teachers to tell them abstinence is the best way, that using abstinence is the only sure away of not getting and vererial disease. For the many that do not heed the warning, I find nothing wrong with also teaching about condoms or pills. I am saying using them as a last resort. I realize you always complain about a nanny state unsane, maybe the younger teens, but any girl or boy that is over 16 yrs feel in their hearts that it is their decision to make'its a fact" their own decision and they do not need nanny.

Spending that outrageaus amount of money on just say no is assanine.

I'm not the morality police

 Your the one thats always talking about freedom.  Political and economic freedoms.  If drugs didn't induce rot in society, I'd be all in. 

Please note that I have not advocated that government become a "morality police".  Indeed, we DO need to teach our children to pin their legs firmly together/keep their pants zipped.  However, this is really something for individuals and individual families to do.  That being said...

I have always thought it was a bad idea to accept responsibility for something I was not fully prepared to accept responsibility for.  Hence I got through high school without impregnating a girl.  My doing that enabled me to go for bigger and better things. 

What was that pearl of wisdom Peter Parker heard from his uncle just before he was killed?  "With great power comes great responsibility."

I realize you always complain about a nanny state unsane, maybe the younger teens, but any girl or boy that is over 16 yrs feel in their hearts that it is their decision to make'its a fact" their own decision and they do not need nanny.  Yep.  And they and their parents are going to whine and throw a fit once Jane finds out she is pregnant.  And guess who will intervene on their behalf as in so many cases?  The Nanny State, with its goodies and handouts.  Isn't it fascinating that you throw a fit about kids being taught the value of abstinence, yet seem to have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER with picking my pocket (and yours) via such giveaways as the ETIC and Medicaid?   

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

usnane

We are not talking about moral or not. Sex education is already in place. I am not against teaching abstinece only, I am saying we also need to teach the importance of condoms as well. Do you really think States like Colorado and Ohio not wanting Free money? They feel just feel no does not work

Also I am not advocating any intervention if someone gets pregnant, i' actually saying 170 million is a little too steep for a lecture.

More

If it were me, there wouldn't be any sex education in the schools. Parents can teach Jack and Jill all about the fundamental differences between boys and girls just fine. Besides, just how did civilization get along without sex education???

Schools are for teaching things that just might well be beyond the scope of what Mommy and Daddy know.

All of that being said...abstinence has always worked!!!

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Merry Christmas/Betty Boop

Since Betty Boop is my avatar here....I hope some of you enjoy this...

Merry Christmas to all!

thought this was worth sharing

http://www.citizenlink.org/Stoplight/A000005834.cfm

merry christmas to all...

 

honesty is the best policy... unless your running for office.

a357... I 'tossmased'

a357...

I 'tossmased' (sp) quite a bit!

Loved it!

Great video!

I just emailed it to a bunch of friends.

Merry Christmas!

Christmas in Iraq...Pat

Christmas in Iraq...Pat Dollard's site.

Merry Christmas to all military!

Come home safely when you can....my gratitude to all...

Frankly, I'm disgusted

at the way that team in Indianapolis ran up the score today.  (sarc/off)    ;^>

run it up

and what of Jacksonville? or Da Bears?

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

Exactly, botg. Just having a little fun

at the expense of the whiners who complained of the Patriots "running up the score" a few weeks ago.   ;^>

since Randy just caught #21

since Randy just caught #21 they'll be saying it again tonight

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

Go Seahawks  playing now

Go Seahawks  playing now against the Ravens...and Chargers tomorrow night against the Broncos.

Colts did great, sure thought it would be a lot closer than it was...saw part of the Greenbay/ Bears game..pretty sad...so was the Raiders.

Go Chargers indeed

and next week, time to make history, will the NFL put it on?  or will it be NFL network only?

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

15-0

I posted this a few weeks ago but it's worth repeating.

Longtime Patriots radio play by play guy Gil Santos noted that the Patriots' offense isn't paid to go 3 and out with a punt every time they get the football. That same statement applies to any NFL team, or any other pro sports team for that matter. The object of the game is to score as many points as you can, not just enough points to beat your opponent.

Likewise, in politics the objective is to get as many votes as possible. When Nixon won 49 out of 50 states in 1972, for instance, the only ones who complained about him "running up the score" were George McGovern's supporters. What political party were they from?

In my twenties and into my

In my twenties and into my mid-30s I used to enjoy the whole Christmas shopping hubbub.  By the time I hit my current 40s I really began to dread shopping.

Background:  As a kid I believed in the whole "Santa" thing until I was about 10.  For the next couple years, through about 12, I believed more in a mythical force that somehow, once a year, strived to answer wishes.  Most times I was disappointed come Christmas morning ... but there was this ONE Christmas morning when I was around 14 or 15 when I really really wanted my own (modular) stereo ... And, after weeks of snooping around the house to my parents' hiding places and not finding it (prepping myself for the usual Christmas morning let-down) I woke Christmas morning to my own stereo set up beside the tree (Dad had hidden it at Grandma's) ... It turned out to be THE perfect gift that gave all year `round in the shouts from my manic parents, "Turn that g.d. thing DOWN!" in the direction of my room where a Hendrix concert was usually in full swing. (I swear my Father was the one who coined the term Head Banger ... "Are you banging your head against the wall in there??!!")

Well, here I am, finishing out my 40s ... My two older daughters young adults and fairly independent from "Mom and Dad", and our little 8 yr. old keeping us on our toes ... and I have noticed something in the last, I dunno, nearly 10 years ... and it really pisses me off to NO END. 

What is it?

Well, it's PART of the reason I now dread the Christmas shopping hubbub.

In the last roughly 10 yrs. I have noticed parents (and Grandparents) dragging their multiple children (preschooler and grade school ages)  out into the stores to do Christmas shopping ... Oh, not taking THEM shopping for family members ... BUT shopping for themselves!  The multiple kids are dragging and straggling along, crowding the already congested store aisles, whining and complaining and demanding ... parents usually threatening to put toys back on the shelves ... and also reminding said kids that "No, I have to take these home and wrap them ... You can't have them until Christmas morning ... It's from Santa!"

OH, BROTHER!

Why bother?!?  Why bother?!? Why bother??!!??

The first time my audio/visual senses experienced this abomination I admit to having to remove my jaw from the filthy store floor.  Now, I just give a thoroughly disgusted loud sigh and push my shopping cart past them and over to the next aisle ... to witness much the same shameless nonsense from yet another family who have turned the mystery and myth of Santa into  "Weekend at Bernie's" ... dragging Santa's rotting corpse around the store, pretending Santa's alive while just ---- Oh, screw it!

Look, either you play out the myth of the fat guy in the fur trimmed red suit who invades your home to eat your cookies and stuff toys under your tree ... Or you just set aside 12/25 as the day Mom and Dad spend money they should be putting into your savings account for college or your first car as the day Mom and Dad blow said money on toys and crap that you COULD have easily made it through another year without ... STOP trying to have it BOTH ways, already!

No "Bah! Hum-Bug!" here ... Just really sick of seeing such "mixed signals" inflicted on kids today.

A nice story about an American hero

This has nothing to do with media bias, but then, that's what open threads are for.  Get some tissue and enjoy. 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Wow, viking, GREAT story!

I don't mind saying it brought tears to my eyes.

Heroes

Our military constantly demonstrates there are lots of ways to be heroic.  I hope someone will start compiling all of these stories, or at least as many as will fit, into a book, and soon.  Actually, I think we'll need a small library. 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

viking..I'm sharing RJ's

viking..

I'm sharing RJ's kleenex box.

Thank you for the link...seems like I saw this wonderful story on television awhile back...nevertheless...like you say there will be a huge book of stories like these when this is over...

The msm is just to busy with stories like Spears and such that are absolutely meaningless.

These are stories that are priceless. 

 

/sarc /on

Oh, we ugly, selfish, imperialistic Americans and our heartless killers …

 

/sarc /off

This Shrubber is a happy

This Shrubber is a happy camper today:

1. The Brownies choked today, as they usually do, giving the AFC North to my beloved Steelers.

2. Today is Jack Ham's birthday.

3. Most of all, tooday is the 35th aniversary of the greatest play in NFL history.

Oh, and

RtS

now you've started

college

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

Brownies

Actually, I would argue that the greatest play in NFL history was when Elway threw a bullet to Vance Johnson in the end zone in Cleveland, back on 11 January 1987, to cap off The Drive.

Indeed, the Brownies DO have a lengthy and time tested tradition of choking. 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

I would contend that "The

I would contend that "The Drive", although lengendary, is not on the same level as the "Immaculate Reception" (Especially since the Broncos choked big-time in the Super Bowl a couple of weeks later). The "Immaculate Reception" spawned 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, and established the Steelers as the best team of the 1970's and removed their "doormat" status. But, I guess arguments like this is what makes sports fun!

The Brownies did not let us down this past Sunday, either. When the season is on the line, the Brownies choked like Ernest Byner did the year after "The Drive".

More on football

Ah...Ernest Byner and "The Fumble".

(I would argue that the only SB that the Broncos truly choked was SB XXII, when they went up 10-0 on the Redskins before they dropped 35 on the Broncos in the second quarter ALONE.  Fact is that NONE of those Broncos teams should have gone to the SB, if not for one man - John Elway - putting them on his back and taking them there.)

The "Immaculate Reception" announced the Steelers to the world in the early 1970s.  "The Drive" was Elway's announcement to the NFL that he had arrived. 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

AF5O Says Merry Christmas!!

I just wanted to drop a line for everyone and say Merry Christmas!  It is always a great time for me to come here and debate, laugh, be sarcastic, and cry with you all.  This past year has seen it’s share of ups and downs for us all but in the year to come I hope you all get your chance to something noble and great for someone in need.  We usually think of giving only during this time of year but I challenge you all to give something of yourselves this year to your fellow man. 

From my family to ALL of you who come here.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!

 

Af... Back at

Af...

Back at you!

Hoping you and yours have a wonderful New Year too...

Thanks AF50....Wonderful

Thanks AF50....Wonderful sentiments we should all take to heart.  Here's wishing a joyful Christmas and New Year for you and your loved ones.

Jer

Another promise...

In NH, Her Royal Clintoness yesterday promised that if she is elected the price of oil will immediately drop. 

How?  She will, in her inauguration speech outline a plan to reduce our dependency on foreign oil, so the sheiks will drop the price to prevent that.

Is there nothig she can't do?

mb... Is there nothing

mb...

Is there nothing she can't do?

Simply answered....

....WIN this Presidential race!

Motherbelt, Interesting

Motherbelt,

Interesting link. But as in every campaign "promise" Hitlery Rotten Clintoon spews out to her adoring plebians, she failed miserably to explain just how in the hell she was going to lower oil prices.

I'm sure that this idiotic fantasy of hers was followed by thunderous applause.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Xmas cheer to You and those

Xmas cheer to You and those near and dear to you.

Toy I want for Xmas but the government has those picky little laws

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and to you drill

wanna arm wrestle?

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

You bet! Loser does the pole

You bet! Loser does the pole dance on the Festivus Pole!

Cool

entertainment to boot

"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger

Lifting Shadows

Unsane is in a VERY good mood, as he got himself a little package from England sitting on his doorstep in Houston yesterday.

That package contained Lifting Shadows, the authorized biography of Dream Theater!

So far, I like what I am reading.  Some of what I learned:

- Dream Theater and David Prater (producer of Images and Words, perhaps their best ever album) hate each other.

- Dream Theater and Queensryche don't get along very well.

- While I didn't think the video for "Pull Me Under" was THAT bad, Mike Portnoy (their drummer) despises it.

- The band nearly split up in 1998, especially under the strains of Falling Into Infinity

...and that's just some of what I read. 

I know that there are some Dream Theater freaks out there who read NB who would appreciate this... 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

No wonder Dream Theater and

No wonder Dream Theater and Queensryche don't get along. They've been ripping off Queensryche for years!
HAHA, just jaggin ya, Un!

Don't be knocking DT

HAHA, just jaggin ya, Un! Be warned. The only reason I don't have Images and Words on a display in my humble apartment with a track light permanently shining upon it, flanked by two candles, etc etc etc (insert other symbols of veneration here) is because I can't afford to do it.  Yet.  :-)

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.