After being in Iowa with Hillary, John Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich and that black guy.........oh that's me.............
That if you put all us together.........
This is how much you can trust Hillary.
This is how much of a backbone John Edwards has.
This is how much character Joe Biden has.
This is how far you can trust Dodd to have your credit card away from you.
This is how much Kucinich's wife really loves him.
and this is how much I know about running the world.
I call it the DEMOCRATIC MILE and intend to measure all things by this new mile. Cars will get now 40 million miles to the gallon by this standard and it will save the US tons of money.
Notice the activity on the Luntz meter when Mrs. Clinton speaks. The lines start up here, but they quickly descend to here. Some of it must be attributed to her pitchy speaking voice, which could break lead.
NB Staff........That pics is way to funny, were you all partying???
I think you people are having way toooooo much fun over there. Ya
know alot of liberals make that hand sign. What is the true meaning of
it??? Something their born with? Something their parent tell them
about themselves??? I wonder........................???? uuummmmm
Dammit. I spent years trying to perfect the Bill Clinton "Gentle But Firm" hand gesture, and he goes and starts pointing at everybody. I think it's going to take some more practice to get it down.
Wow a nice Christian Repubican girl that listen to others pov, will not give snarky remark to a different idea? And one with a sick sense of humor. Awesome!
And drat this having to pay what something is worth! You know how much silence cost these days? It'll bankrupt me! Time for the barter system. I'll buy your silence with a nice fresh apple pie.
- Immediately upon taking office he signed a sales tax hike in 1996
- He raised taxes on gasoline in 1999
- He supported an internet sales tax in 2001
- He created a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001
- He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002
- He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements
- He raised taxes on cigarettes in 2003
- He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003
- He allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004
- He increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did
- He increased state spending 65.3% from 1996 to 2004
- The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure
- Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President
- Overall, Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax
cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his
tenure.
My first impression of Mike was that he seemed pretty good, but the ugly truth is slowly coming out. As much as I'd love to vote for an evangelical, it's weird - voting for a stronger leader would actually do more to protect Christian interest. Does that make sense?
I remain undecided as to whom I support. Hunter would be cool, but he doesn't have a chance this year. So for now I'm biding my time.
Mike Huckabee is simply a Pro-Life Liberal nothing more. None of the GOP candidates have said anything to attack Christian interests. They all respect everyone's individual religious views and personal freedoms so this need to elect the most radical evangelical no matter how socialist his governing was is scary.
Are you sensing an extremely significant number of evangerlicals who have "this need", or are you scaremongering in favor of some candidate in particular.
We'll vote for the candidate who most closely fits our hopes. BTW, are you supporting any particular candidate?
In favor of NOT having the Huckster get nominated because he is a fiscal liberal. Sorry but the hypocrisy of Huckabee followers calling everyone else a RINO while in denial of their fiscal socialist "savior" is too much for me.
"Proclaimed evangelical" or not, sure as hell have yet to answer my question asked on behalf of Arkansas taxpayers yesterday -- unless a clueless armchair "lawyer" legal opinion counts, that is...
JMR
Go read the original article, which did math based not on just hard drives, but on computer equipment in general, probably including laptops. I repeat, nobody, not you and not Mr. Clueless, has answered my question.
JMR
It's just that your zeal for one candidate has you scouring the net for even the most ludicrous of accusations against the front runner.
Now that it has been determined you believe it takes $3,350 to replace a hard drive, and that you willingly accept anything as long as it's in print and fits your preconception, you've done a pretty good job of marginalizing yourself all by yourself.
In other posts I've been honest enough to back down and even apologize when I've been wrong, but you present numbers and then hide behind the source when you've obviously failed to even casually assess its veracity.
Never mind, even with my ignorant 5th grade education I can do the math.
The question wasn't about the reporter's math which was apparently obtained from the next governor who had to replace the destroyed taxpayer property, it was about whether Huckabee owes Arkansas taxpayers for the equipment (doesn't matter what kind, YOU not I specified hard drives here) he had destroyed.
If the stuff was worth $0.35 or $350.00 instead of $350,000.00 my question remains UNanswered, like it or not, until someone answers it. Trying to change the subject to the reporter's math or to me ain't workin'!! Answer the question for the first time, please. Does TaxHikeMike, or doesn't he, owe the money???
JMR
C'mon Sarc, be reasonable. CA's free and clear on this one and you know it. It's more than a fair point to calculate the bill first before you slap someone with it.
What if someone demanded you pay your bill at a restaurant before you knew the total price of the meal?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Huckabee either owes the taxpayers of Arkansas for the stuff he destroyed, or he doesn't. Which is it??????
This destruction of taxpayer property has nothing to do with me paying my food bills, and nothing to do with the manufactured-here conflict over numbers. Assume the destroyed stuff is worth a nonzero quantity of money. Does the person who destroyed the stuff owe the taxpayers for said stuff, or not?? Yes or no??
JMR
I guess if you didn't have the common sense necessary to figure out who's initials I was referring to, I guess you don't have the higher cognitive skills to work my simple analogy. Maybe it wasn't simple enough.
Or maybe you were playing stupid? I dunno, but this thread's really changed my opinion of you Sarc. I thought you were more accommodating and less obstinate.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
My question is rather simple, too. Does TaxHikeMike owe the money (numbers are irrelevant) for the stuff he destroyed, or does he not. Your eating analogy is not relevant. The question is about a politician who destroyed taxpayer property. Period.
It's directed at Republicans who have rightly complained about Democrats doing the same thing. I'm trying, desperately, to hold you people to ONE STANDARD. It's not about me, it's not about Ron Paul, it's about that ONE standard you don't seem to want to think about in TaxHikeMike's case. Why??
JMR
I do not give a crap who you support. Supporting a candidate doesn't invalidate sarcasmo's ONE STANDARD rule one bit, because it's not about personalities, it's about criminality.
The unanswered question remains. Does TaxHikeMike owe the taxpayers of Arkansas money for their property he deliberately destroyed, or doesn't he? I've seen straighter answers from lefty-boards WRT taxation than I've seen on this issue tonight. The spin & desperate attempts at evasion are amazing, considering the simplicity of my question...
JMR
Hold up man, what if I don't really care because (a.) it's not my state to worry about, and (b.) he's not getting the nomination anyway? And yeah, my support is relevant because you can't accuse me of a double standard without it.
Has a precedent been set where a departing governor has to foot the bill for. . .anything? Are you saying there's hypocrisy afoot whenever a conservative tosses, "there ought to be a law" around?
Is there a law against elected leaders destroying govt. property? That's what I want to know. Have there been any previous suits filed to support it one way or the other?
So I think you're jumping the gun on the process here, Sarc. You're building a gallows before the judge has even had his morning cup of coffee.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
I have no idea who will get the nomination, and I'm honest enough to admit that, but this guy's dangerously-ahead despite his socialistic views & questionable ethics. I would assume it's against Arkansas law for government officials to destroy government property. I know for a fact that I've seen Republicans bitch about it when Democrats destroyed government property, down to taking the "W" keys on computers which were left otherwise intact. That's what this is about -- one standard, one still-unanswered question. Asking a simple question isn't "building a gallows," it's asking a question. The fact that nobody will answer it honestly speaks volumes, and I think all of you know that...
JMR
"All of you?" I don't have enough material to make an informed decision. What? Just two articles? Even you admitted that you assumed there was a law against it. I'm willing to answer when you deliver more than mere assumption. That's all I'm saying.
The articles alone make Huck look bad enough, why do you have to rub our noses in it? I haven't seen any real Huckabee supporters here (sigs etc.), have you? And even then, they're obviously not as vocal as you Paul supporters anyway. What are you so scared of?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Various holier-than-thou types here and elsewhere. Do you actually think there's NOT any law against destroying public property in Arkansas??? IANAL, but I seriously-doubt that.
And yes, you do need your noses rubbed in it if you can't admit the truth, as in this case. Occasionally, that's my role around here, and I can take-on the left as well as the right when it is. As for being vocal, it's needed when confronted with both lies and media bias. And if Huckabee is all that popular and these polls are all that accurate, than I wonder WHY you and I haven't seen any "real" Huckabee supporters? You'd think they'd be here if there are so-many of 'em.
JMR
See above. That's the most 100% honest reply I can possibly give. I'm not trying to cover for Huckabee, and you can't fairly imply that.
Geez, you're starting to scare me.
CA,
Good point. I'll take that advice and run with it. I just couldn't help scratching my head about this. I was totally confused. . .so I made the mistake of jumping in for clarification. A lot of good that did me. =(
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
You're trying to change the subject, but you have YET to answer the question. This isn't about math, and it isn't about Ron Paul. It's about ONE STANDARD for politicians.
Does TaxHikeMike, or doesn't he, owe the taxpayers of Arkansas for destroyed equipment?? It's an easy sounding question, but all I've seen from you is hemming and hawing while desperately trying to change the subject to me, Ron Paul, or anything but my question. If you have an argument with the reporter's numbers, then go get the right numbers. But don't try to blame ME for a piece that's critical of TaxHikeMike's fiscal record. That speaks for itself.
JMR
I stand by all my words. Thanks for playing, but you've yet to come close to an answer to my question. Attacks and trying to change the subject have not worked for you in this case. Sorry, but you've literally DEFINED weak here...
JMR
Read the background on the anti-slander link, Mr. "Respect." You probably already have, so you know what you're saying he said is a lie, since everyone knows by now he didn't write it.
And you STILL have yet to answer my question. This one's a loser for the TaxHikeMike side, and it would help your reputation with me to just admit the truth on that fact. If it had been a Democrat, we both know you'd be doing backflips to convict him already.
JMR
Don't get to make that decision. It's more than likely to be made, in fact, by his ex-appointees. But I'm glad to FINALLY get some semblance of an answer, it only took post-after-post, and it's apparently now triggered signature-file dishonesty from you, as well.
JMR
The DOD, which has national security data to protect, tends to crush hard drives even though wipe software exists. They're extra careful, they have a budget for that kind of thing, and it's not really my main point, because state governors don't have the same security needs (it's assumed they're not criminals as governors) and therefore don't get to be as anal about data-destruction as the DOD.
Nor is AGW my point. I'm focused like a laser on whether TaxHikeMike owes money for the equipment he destroyed. The more-often I ask it, the less-likely it looks I'll ever get a "John Wayne" type of straight answer from the evasion-force here, but it's fun to watch 'em squirm, hem, and haw...
JMR
DOD defense sanitizing is to SOFTWARE wipe 3 passes. You will find other recommendations from 4-35 passes. After 3 no one is getting the data.
Yes Huckabee is a computer illiterate if he thinks it is necessary to crush the drives. The only way he could get that passed is if everyone working with him was also computer illiterate.
I don't even know where those costs come from, talk about a scam you should be able to buy 100 HDs in bulk for less than $5000.
Prove it. So far, you have not even come close. The article said, "...soon after taking office, incoming governor Mike Beebe had to allocate $335,000 from his operating fund to buy new hard drives and computers to replace those crushed..."
The fact that it reveals information TaxHikeMike's fans may not like doesn't prove it's "a hit piece." And your changed signature file is proof you're desperately trying to change the subject, but it ain't workin' because you know you're lying (see below).
Inasmuch as the links you provide are packed with obviously overly inflated figures, I have no more wish to follow them.
You pulled bullsh*t off the net and now you're questioning somebody else's queries? If you and the State of Arkansas pay $3350 per computer, I can only wish I had the concession on those little transactions.
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions" - Ron Paul
If you think Arkansas Times reporter David Koon (link contains his contact info, so I'm emailing him this URL) got it wrong or somehow wrote a "hit piece," then try to prove it. I don't think you can. And I don't doubt the concession on Arkansas or any state's computers is sweet, but it's totally irrelevant, like much of the other flack you're tossing into this.
JMR
Or even wrong. You're making even more of a fool out of yourself, but at least you've quit with the blatant lie in the sigfile. That's a start. If I were you, I'd be worried the state of Arkansas is dumb-enough to constantly-pay too much for computers. It wouldn't shock me if they did, that's for sure.
And finding this didn't take much "rooting through" the 'net, far from it. The struggle, as we've seen above, was in extracting a straight answer regarding what looks to me like blatant criminality. People who care about this country want to hold TaxHikeMike accountable for his sometimes-vanishing ethical lapses, and if there's something wrong or hypocritical with that, well, then I'm a wrong-hypocrite.
JMR
I don't "have it both ways," any more than you do by your own admission above, but I finally got an answer to my question. Face it, this is an ethical issue for Huckabee REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE REPORTER (who got emailed by me about an hour ago, so he might even comment for us) GOT HIS NUMBERS RIGHT, AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT ARKANSAS PAYS FOR COMPUTERS. Your attempt to change the subject with the ancient lie didn't work, and the outlandish price on the computer isn't mine, it's the reporter's. You still have yet to refute his number, even as you call it "outlandish."
JMR
I've said repeatedly that you'll get the respect you deserve from me. And I repeat, if the reporter's numbers are not accurate (something you have yet to prove...) the ethical question regarding destruction of taxpayer-property remains. Of course, it's not the ONLY ethical question for the tax-hiker, by far...
JMR
I was snowed in today and watched "Man of the Year" with Robin Williams while I folded laundry (not my first choice, but as a New Englander who is a NY fan, there was nothing on TV...wink wink, nudge nudge). Every talking point in Barack's campaign ads here in NH are THE SAME AS the character in Man of the Year, about a comedian "independent" (ie Hollywood Democrat appealing to "everyman") who wins the Presidential election because of two things - supposed "disenfranchised voters", and a major computer voting glitch by a big evil corporation. He is otherwise completely unqualified to become President...and he knows it.
Has anyone noticed the similarities in the talking point rhetoric between the Hollywood schmultz of this crappy movie and Mr Obama's campaign advertisements???? I for one think he has plagarized the worst possible literary work - a hardcore liberal movie. And if we fall for it, shame on us!
For example "I am not for a blue America or a red America (I am not for Democratic America or Republican America), but for a UNITED States of America" - both candiates (William's character and Obama) make the same point. Somewhere in the movie Williams talks ALOT about politicians being beholden to lobbyists, and "never working for regular Americans" - too many Enrons and Exxons to pay back for the political money needed to get out the vote...blah, blah, blah. Obama makes the same statements almost verbatim in his poltical ads.... I won't bore you with more details, but if I didn't know better, I'd say Barack stole the "Man of theYear" playbook slogan for slogan. And that makes me do two things- worry and LAUGH. How simple do these Democrats think the voting public is? And for HBO to play the movie at the height of the Primaries is just plain insulting...and funny as heck!! Anyone with me???
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December 15, 2007 - 16:49 ET bythe profffs brain and it is this big
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Clinton may have been with
December 16, 2007 - 01:27 ET by CeceliaClinton may have been with more black women than me, but mine never walked way doing this, Andrew Young...
"I am about this qualified
December 15, 2007 - 16:49 ET by DaBird"I am about this qualified to run this nation."
How much bigger is
December 15, 2007 - 16:54 ET by ArchConservativeHow much bigger is Hillary's than mine? Ohhh about this much.
Hillary said that this is
December 15, 2007 - 16:54 ET by DingbatHillary said that this is all I would have left if I stayed in the race.
I'm gonna squish her like a tiny bug.
December 15, 2007 - 17:10 ET by Crash"Hillary, I'm surprised you could find batteries this small!"
1. Give me a break! The
December 15, 2007 - 17:18 ET by motherbelt1. We would usually roll joints about this big....
or
2. I'm about this close to bringing up Vince Foster, the Travel Office, Web Hubbel, and the FBI files!
"Then cut her up in pieces
December 15, 2007 - 17:19 ET by Chandler"Then cut her up in pieces about this big!"
Depth
December 15, 2007 - 17:47 ET by scamorama"The depth of my knowledge is about this much."
...is only this big, which is
December 15, 2007 - 17:58 ET by MightyMouth...is only this big, which is proof positive ladies and gentlemen that I am NOT black!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Or.... This is TOO ten
December 15, 2007 - 19:04 ET by motherbeltOr....
This is TOO ten inches!!!
LOL MB
December 15, 2007 - 23:15 ET by MightyMouthMost us guys just tryin to prove 6.
uhumm. NOT MM of course who has nothing to prove. -)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I have found this to the Democratic Mile
December 15, 2007 - 18:07 ET by Lame CherryAfter being in Iowa with Hillary, John Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich and that black guy.........oh that's me.............
That if you put all us together.........
This is how much you can trust Hillary.
This is how much of a backbone John Edwards has.
This is how much character Joe Biden has.
This is how far you can trust Dodd to have your credit card away from you.
This is how much Kucinich's wife really loves him.
and this is how much I know about running the world.
I call it the DEMOCRATIC MILE and intend to measure all things by this new mile. Cars will get now 40 million miles to the gallon by this standard and it will save the US tons of money.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
I'm about this far from
December 15, 2007 - 18:11 ET by MikeBI'm about this far from b***h-slapping that flip-flopping white girl right out of this primary!
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
now thats funny "Get
December 15, 2007 - 20:01 ET by red_dragon311now thats funny
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
Best so far
December 15, 2007 - 21:51 ET by SouthJersey1953This is the funniest so far....
It's not Right vs. Left; it is Right vs. Wrong
Now that Opera backs me, the chance of my white mom, showing up
December 15, 2007 - 18:39 ET by upcountrywateris about this much...
iranian uranium; iranian uranium, iranian uranium..
So when ARE the Russians going to finish the iranian atoms for peace power plant?
Actually
December 15, 2007 - 22:33 ET by Del DolemonteAs I recall, Barry's mom is no longer with us.
DD making fun of the dead ain't funny,
December 15, 2007 - 23:20 ET by upcountrywaterRIP
iranian uranium; iranian uranium, iranian uranium..
So when ARE the Russians going to finish the iranian atoms for peace power plant?
YO DUDE
December 15, 2007 - 18:43 ET by SharkI only snorted a line of Cocaine this long.........
.
December 15, 2007 - 18:44 ET by dervish"Hey -- where's Kucinich? You know..."
These base are belong about
December 15, 2007 - 19:04 ET by the strugglerThese base are belong about this big.
How much experience do I
December 15, 2007 - 19:27 ET by GregEHow much experience do I have??......BAAAAAAM!!!!!
" I don't care ......
December 15, 2007 - 20:38 ET by sentforth5.....what Begala told ya, I'm tellin' ya it's only this big!"
Notice the activity on the
December 15, 2007 - 20:43 ET by fitzfongNotice the activity on the Luntz meter when Mrs. Clinton speaks. The lines start up here, but they quickly descend to here. Some of it must be attributed to her pitchy speaking voice, which could break lead.
NB Staff........That pics
December 15, 2007 - 21:01 ET by charlietexasNB Staff........That pics is way to funny, were you all partying???
I think you people are having way toooooo much fun over there. Ya
know alot of liberals make that hand sign. What is the true meaning of
it??? Something their born with? Something their parent tell them
about themselves??? I wonder........................???? uuummmmm
mom
Osama Bama's ambitions...
December 16, 2007 - 06:50 ET by goldenthroat" I have wanted to be a pwesident since I was thiiiiiis wittle - bahahahah!"
"Yeah! That's the ticket!" - Tommy Flanagan
Answering a personal debate question
December 15, 2007 - 21:47 ET by WoodyM"Contrary to popular beliefs about the size of black men...well, uh, anyway...mine's almost as big as Hillary's."
Dammit. I spent years trying
December 15, 2007 - 21:57 ET by Roger the ShrubberDammit. I spent years trying to perfect the Bill Clinton "Gentle But Firm" hand gesture, and he goes and starts pointing at everybody. I think it's going to take some more practice to get it down.
at the latest debate
December 15, 2007 - 22:24 ET by candanceBarack Obama explains why Monica chose Bill Clinton over him.
(okay that was bad, I know.)
candance!
December 15, 2007 - 22:29 ET by shawn228You get yoe nice Christian girl mind outa da gutta!
I know Shawn
December 15, 2007 - 23:05 ET by candanceMy fingers felt dirty just typing the keys! BRB after I pour some anointing oil in my eyes and say a long prayer of repentance.
I really hope my mother never stumbles across this! Shhh.
candance
December 15, 2007 - 23:13 ET by shawn228Wow a nice Christian Repubican girl that listen to others pov, will not give snarky remark to a different idea? And one with a sick sense of humor. Awesome!
he he McShawny
December 15, 2007 - 23:20 ET by candanceConvert people with the fruit you bear, not the loudest you can yell. Simple concept really.
(now let's never speak of this Obama joke again)
candance
December 16, 2007 - 00:26 ET by shawn228Definitely some folks that can yell pretty loud in here candance. Ya'know if Chuck Norris likes this Huckabee fellow, he can't be all bad.
Ummm...Candance, silence is
December 16, 2007 - 13:45 ET by MikeBUmmm...Candance, silence is golden ... and expensive! We, all of us, will expect our checks in the mail shortly. :-)
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
drat this free market system
December 16, 2007 - 14:41 ET by candanceAnd drat this having to pay what something is worth! You know how much silence cost these days? It'll bankrupt me! Time for the barter system. I'll buy your silence with a nice fresh apple pie.
That works for me.
December 16, 2007 - 15:16 ET by MikeBThat works for me. Deepdish?
What can I say? I'm cheap and easy.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Ummmmmm! I'm telling your
December 15, 2007 - 22:30 ET by Chris NormanUmmmmmm! I'm telling your mom what you said!
(Don Adams Voice)
December 15, 2007 - 22:35 ET by Del Dolemonte"Missed it by THAT much!"
Breaking news-the NY Times-owned Bawstan Globe has endorsed...Obama.
DM Register endorsement
December 15, 2007 - 22:47 ET by nkviking75The schoolmarm and her compadres and the Des Moines Register endorsed Hillary and McCain.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Globe
December 15, 2007 - 23:11 ET by Del DolemonteThe Boston Globe also endorsed McCain, which they had also done previously in 2000.
I
December 15, 2007 - 22:47 ET by wiwfI pinch
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The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
still
December 15, 2007 - 23:00 ET by audio357think mike b's is best!
honesty is the best policy... unless your running for office.
"This is the size of Mike Huckabee's..."
December 15, 2007 - 23:16 ET by PopularTechHuckabee on Taxes (Video) (1min)
Another Man From Hope. Who is Mike Huckabee? (The Wall Street Journal)
Background:
Age: 52
Education:
- Ordained to ministry Southern Baptist Convention, 1974
- B.A. Religion, Ouachita Baptist University, 1976
Military Experience:
- None
Political Experience:
- Lt. Governor of Arkansas, 1993-1996
- Governor of Arkansas, 1996-2007
Religion:
- Baptist
Fiscal Record:
Huckabee's Fiscal Record
Huckabee: The Biggest Big-Government Conservative (FOXNews)
Mike Huckabee is a Liberal (Club for Growth)
Updated Huckabee White Paper (Club for Growth)
- Immediately upon taking office he signed a sales tax hike in 1996
- He raised taxes on gasoline in 1999
- He supported an internet sales tax in 2001
- He created a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001
- He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002
- He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements
- He raised taxes on cigarettes in 2003
- He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003
- He allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004
- He increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did
- He increased state spending 65.3% from 1996 to 2004
- The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure
- Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President
Tax Hike Mike
- Overall, Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax
cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his
tenure.
Illegal Immigration:
Laura Ingraham: Huckabee Is A "Big Loser" On Immigration (Audio) (5min)
Huckabee Supported Scholarships for Illegal Aliens (Video) (5min)
Huckabee aid plan for illegal aliens draws 'venom, anger' (Arkansas News Bureau)
Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention (Arkansas News Bureau)
Crime and Punishment:
Mike Huckabee's Clemency Record Is Under Scrutiny (FOXNews)
Why parole a monster like Green
Lois Davidson tells her story (Video) (1min)
Ethics:
Huck's gift-givers ended up in state posts
Huckabee Signed '98 Ad Urging Women to 'Graciously Submit' to Husbands
Global Warming:
Huckabee is the only Republican candidate to support the economy crippling Cap and Trade CO2 Legislation, Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) Regulation and Renewable Energy Standards
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
interesting Popular
December 15, 2007 - 23:23 ET by candanceMy first impression of Mike was that he seemed pretty good, but the ugly truth is slowly coming out. As much as I'd love to vote for an evangelical, it's weird - voting for a stronger leader would actually do more to protect Christian interest. Does that make sense?
I remain undecided as to whom I support. Hunter would be cool, but he doesn't have a chance this year. So for now I'm biding my time.
He is a Pro-Life Liberal
December 15, 2007 - 23:51 ET by PopularTechMike Huckabee is simply a Pro-Life Liberal nothing more. None of the GOP candidates have said anything to attack Christian interests. They all respect everyone's individual religious views and personal freedoms so this need to elect the most radical evangelical no matter how socialist his governing was is scary.
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
Poptech
December 16, 2007 - 00:19 ET by Cool ArrowAre you sensing an extremely significant number of evangerlicals who have "this need", or are you scaremongering in favor of some candidate in particular.
We'll vote for the candidate who most closely fits our hopes. BTW, are you supporting any particular candidate?
I ♣ My Seal
I am exposing the Huckster
December 16, 2007 - 00:59 ET by PopularTechIn favor of NOT having the Huckster get nominated because he is a fiscal liberal. Sorry but the hypocrisy of Huckabee followers calling everyone else a RINO while in denial of their fiscal socialist "savior" is too much for me.
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
}}---> OK PopTech
December 16, 2007 - 01:10 ET by Cool ArrowI guess I've missed the proclaimed evangelicals calling "everyone else a RINO" thread.
But if you say it's so. . .
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The Huckabee-followers
December 16, 2007 - 01:22 ET by sarcasmo"Proclaimed evangelical" or not, sure as hell have yet to answer my question asked on behalf of Arkansas taxpayers yesterday -- unless a clueless armchair "lawyer" legal opinion counts, that is...
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}}---> et tu sarc?
December 16, 2007 - 01:32 ET by Cool ArrowPlease, in your next post following this, do the math for us on replacing 100 hard drives at a total cost of $335,000.
You're usually somewhat more fastidious in your exposure of Government waste.
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Not my math.
December 16, 2007 - 01:38 ET by sarcasmoGo read the original article, which did math based not on just hard drives, but on computer equipment in general, probably including laptops. I repeat, nobody, not you and not Mr. Clueless, has answered my question.
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}}---> Yes, SARC, I did answer
December 16, 2007 - 01:51 ET by Cool ArrowIt's just that your zeal for one candidate has you scouring the net for even the most ludicrous of accusations against the front runner.
Now that it has been determined you believe it takes $3,350 to replace a hard drive, and that you willingly accept anything as long as it's in print and fits your preconception, you've done a pretty good job of marginalizing yourself all by yourself.
In other posts I've been honest enough to back down and even apologize when I've been wrong, but you present numbers and then hide behind the source when you've obviously failed to even casually assess its veracity.
Never mind, even with my ignorant 5th grade education I can do the math.
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Nope, you did NOT answer
December 16, 2007 - 01:55 ET by sarcasmoThe question wasn't about the reporter's math which was apparently obtained from the next governor who had to replace the destroyed taxpayer property, it was about whether Huckabee owes Arkansas taxpayers for the equipment (doesn't matter what kind, YOU not I specified hard drives here) he had destroyed.
If the stuff was worth $0.35 or $350.00 instead of $350,000.00 my question remains UNanswered, like it or not, until someone answers it. Trying to change the subject to the reporter's math or to me ain't workin'!! Answer the question for the first time, please. Does TaxHikeMike, or doesn't he, owe the money???
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C'mon Sarc, be
December 16, 2007 - 02:16 ET by tracheostomyC'mon Sarc, be reasonable. CA's free and clear on this one and you know it. It's more than a fair point to calculate the bill first before you slap someone with it.
What if someone demanded you pay your bill at a restaurant before you knew the total price of the meal?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Huh??? I don't even know who "CA" *is*!!!
December 16, 2007 - 02:29 ET by sarcasmoHuckabee either owes the taxpayers of Arkansas for the stuff he destroyed, or he doesn't. Which is it??????
This destruction of taxpayer property has nothing to do with me paying my food bills, and nothing to do with the manufactured-here conflict over numbers. Assume the destroyed stuff is worth a nonzero quantity of money. Does the person who destroyed the stuff owe the taxpayers for said stuff, or not?? Yes or no??
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I guess if you didn't have
December 16, 2007 - 02:57 ET by tracheostomyI guess if you didn't have the common sense necessary to figure out who's initials I was referring to, I guess you don't have the higher cognitive skills to work my simple analogy. Maybe it wasn't simple enough.
Or maybe you were playing stupid? I dunno, but this thread's really changed my opinion of you Sarc. I thought you were more accommodating and less obstinate.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
You, like "CA" (I'd thought you'd spell it out) haven't answered
December 16, 2007 - 03:07 ET by sarcasmoMy question is rather simple, too. Does TaxHikeMike owe the money (numbers are irrelevant) for the stuff he destroyed, or does he not. Your eating analogy is not relevant. The question is about a politician who destroyed taxpayer property. Period.
It's directed at Republicans who have rightly complained about Democrats doing the same thing. I'm trying, desperately, to hold you people to ONE STANDARD. It's not about me, it's not about Ron Paul, it's about that ONE standard you don't seem to want to think about in TaxHikeMike's case. Why??
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Uhhh. . .because I don't
December 16, 2007 - 03:12 ET by tracheostomyUhhh. . .because I don't really support Huckabee???
LOL!
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Your support is likewise irrelevant.
December 16, 2007 - 03:18 ET by sarcasmoI do not give a crap who you support. Supporting a candidate doesn't invalidate sarcasmo's ONE STANDARD rule one bit, because it's not about personalities, it's about criminality.
The unanswered question remains. Does TaxHikeMike owe the taxpayers of Arkansas money for their property he deliberately destroyed, or doesn't he? I've seen straighter answers from lefty-boards WRT taxation than I've seen on this issue tonight. The spin & desperate attempts at evasion are amazing, considering the simplicity of my question...
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Hold up man, what if I
December 16, 2007 - 03:27 ET by tracheostomyHold up man, what if I don't really care because (a.) it's not my state to worry about, and (b.) he's not getting the nomination anyway? And yeah, my support is relevant because you can't accuse me of a double standard without it.
Has a precedent been set where a departing governor has to foot the bill for. . .anything? Are you saying there's hypocrisy afoot whenever a conservative tosses, "there ought to be a law" around?
Is there a law against elected leaders destroying govt. property? That's what I want to know. Have there been any previous suits filed to support it one way or the other?
So I think you're jumping the gun on the process here, Sarc. You're building a gallows before the judge has even had his morning cup of coffee.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
The precedent
December 16, 2007 - 03:34 ET by sarcasmoWas apparently NOT to destroy taxpayer property.
I have no idea who will get the nomination, and I'm honest enough to admit that, but this guy's dangerously-ahead despite his socialistic views & questionable ethics. I would assume it's against Arkansas law for government officials to destroy government property. I know for a fact that I've seen Republicans bitch about it when Democrats destroyed government property, down to taking the "W" keys on computers which were left otherwise intact. That's what this is about -- one standard, one still-unanswered question. Asking a simple question isn't "building a gallows," it's asking a question. The fact that nobody will answer it honestly speaks volumes, and I think all of you know that...
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"All of you?" I don't have
December 16, 2007 - 03:42 ET by tracheostomy"All of you?" I don't have enough material to make an informed decision. What? Just two articles? Even you admitted that you assumed there was a law against it. I'm willing to answer when you deliver more than mere assumption. That's all I'm saying.
The articles alone make Huck look bad enough, why do you have to rub our noses in it? I haven't seen any real Huckabee supporters here (sigs etc.), have you? And even then, they're obviously not as vocal as you Paul supporters anyway. What are you so scared of?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
I'm scared of all the dishonesty I've seen from
December 16, 2007 - 03:49 ET by sarcasmoVarious holier-than-thou types here and elsewhere. Do you actually think there's NOT any law against destroying public property in Arkansas??? IANAL, but I seriously-doubt that.
And yes, you do need your noses rubbed in it if you can't admit the truth, as in this case. Occasionally, that's my role around here, and I can take-on the left as well as the right when it is. As for being vocal, it's needed when confronted with both lies and media bias. And if Huckabee is all that popular and these polls are all that accurate, than I wonder WHY you and I haven't seen any "real" Huckabee supporters? You'd think they'd be here if there are so-many of 'em.
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}}---> Trake
December 16, 2007 - 03:34 ET by Cool ArrowJust let him flap in the wind. He knows he's wrong but lacks the capacity to admit it.
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions" - Ron Paul
Huh???
December 16, 2007 - 03:38 ET by sarcasmoWhat am I wrong about?? I've asked a simple question, and you both have yet to answer it.
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Sarc, See above.
December 16, 2007 - 03:47 ET by tracheostomySarc,
See above. That's the most 100% honest reply I can possibly give. I'm not trying to cover for Huckabee, and you can't fairly imply that.
Geez, you're starting to scare me.
CA,
Good point. I'll take that advice and run with it. I just couldn't help scratching my head about this. I was totally confused. . .so I made the mistake of jumping in for clarification. A lot of good that did me. =(
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
}}---> sarc
December 16, 2007 - 02:18 ET by Cool ArrowYou just got caught buying into somebody's hit piece and you're now too invested in it to admit you've been an ass.
I've actually shown some respect for your candidate lately, even agreed on most of his points, and you still can do no more than spit on people.
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This isn't respect.
December 16, 2007 - 02:26 ET by sarcasmoYou're trying to change the subject, but you have YET to answer the question. This isn't about math, and it isn't about Ron Paul. It's about ONE STANDARD for politicians.
Does TaxHikeMike, or doesn't he, owe the taxpayers of Arkansas for destroyed equipment?? It's an easy sounding question, but all I've seen from you is hemming and hawing while desperately trying to change the subject to me, Ron Paul, or anything but my question. If you have an argument with the reporter's numbers, then go get the right numbers. But don't try to blame ME for a piece that's critical of TaxHikeMike's fiscal record. That speaks for itself.
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}}---> You're twisting sarc
December 16, 2007 - 02:32 ET by Cool ArrowAnd it's not pretty.
Calling attention to yourself with total disregard to the inconsistency of belief you expect of others but don't apply to yourself.
Your argument is deflated and all you can cling to is: "Yeah, but it's the principle" Even though you concede now that maybe the numbers are inflated.
Weak, sarc. Very weak.
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Still no answer...
December 16, 2007 - 02:36 ET by sarcasmoI stand by all my words. Thanks for playing, but you've yet to come close to an answer to my question. Attacks and trying to change the subject have not worked for you in this case. Sorry, but you've literally DEFINED weak here...
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It's OK sarc
December 16, 2007 - 03:33 ET by Cool ArrowI would have expected nothing more from you.
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions" - Ron Paul
Not Ron Paul.
December 16, 2007 - 03:36 ET by sarcasmoRead the background on the anti-slander link, Mr. "Respect." You probably already have, so you know what you're saying he said is a lie, since everyone knows by now he didn't write it.
And you STILL have yet to answer my question. This one's a loser for the TaxHikeMike side, and it would help your reputation with me to just admit the truth on that fact. If it had been a Democrat, we both know you'd be doing backflips to convict him already.
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}}---> no sarc
December 16, 2007 - 03:39 ET by Cool ArrowI answered your question. He owes the money if his ex constituents decide he owes it. I'm not from Arkansas.
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions" - Ron Paul
His ex-constituents, sadly,
December 16, 2007 - 03:43 ET by sarcasmoDon't get to make that decision. It's more than likely to be made, in fact, by his ex-appointees. But I'm glad to FINALLY get some semblance of an answer, it only took post-after-post, and it's apparently now triggered signature-file dishonesty from you, as well.
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LMAO! The Huckster is a Computer Illiterate too!
December 16, 2007 - 03:13 ET by PopularTechI had no idea Huckabee was a computer illiterate! It costs $0 to wipe HDs using free software:
http://dban.sourcefo...
No wonder this idiot believes in man-made global warming.
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I wouldn't go that far...
December 16, 2007 - 03:25 ET by sarcasmoThe DOD, which has national security data to protect, tends to crush hard drives even though wipe software exists. They're extra careful, they have a budget for that kind of thing, and it's not really my main point, because state governors don't have the same security needs (it's assumed they're not criminals as governors) and therefore don't get to be as anal about data-destruction as the DOD.
Nor is AGW my point. I'm focused like a laser on whether TaxHikeMike owes money for the equipment he destroyed. The more-often I ask it, the less-likely it looks I'll ever get a "John Wayne" type of straight answer from the evasion-force here, but it's fun to watch 'em squirm, hem, and haw...
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Crushing is absolutely unnecessary
December 16, 2007 - 04:03 ET by PopularTechDOD defense sanitizing is to SOFTWARE wipe 3 passes. You will find other recommendations from 4-35 passes. After 3 no one is getting the data.
Yes Huckabee is a computer illiterate if he thinks it is necessary to crush the drives. The only way he could get that passed is if everyone working with him was also computer illiterate.
I don't even know where those costs come from, talk about a scam you should be able to buy 100 HDs in bulk for less than $5000.
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}}---> PopTech
December 16, 2007 - 04:06 ET by Cool Arrowsarc zeroed in on the article, not because it's true, but because it is a hit piece on Huckabee.
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions" - Ron Paul
If you think the article's false.
December 16, 2007 - 04:11 ET by sarcasmoProve it. So far, you have not even come close. The article said, "...soon after taking office, incoming governor Mike Beebe had to allocate $335,000 from his operating fund to buy new hard drives and computers to replace those crushed..."
The fact that it reveals information TaxHikeMike's fans may not like doesn't prove it's "a hit piece." And your changed signature file is proof you're desperately trying to change the subject, but it ain't workin' because you know you're lying (see below).
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sorry sarc
December 16, 2007 - 04:20 ET by Cool ArrowInasmuch as the links you provide are packed with obviously overly inflated figures, I have no more wish to follow them.
You pulled bullsh*t off the net and now you're questioning somebody else's queries? If you and the State of Arkansas pay $3350 per computer, I can only wish I had the concession on those little transactions.
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions" - Ron Paul
The question was never about numbers.
December 16, 2007 - 04:30 ET by sarcasmoAnd you're still lying (again, see below).
If you think Arkansas Times reporter David Koon (link contains his contact info, so I'm emailing him this URL) got it wrong or somehow wrote a "hit piece," then try to prove it. I don't think you can. And I don't doubt the concession on Arkansas or any state's computers is sweet, but it's totally irrelevant, like much of the other flack you're tossing into this.
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Don't care sarc
December 16, 2007 - 04:43 ET by Cool ArrowYou went rooting through the net for garbage and found it.
You made a fool out of yourself rather than concede the numbers you threw out were laughable. Nothing unpredictable about that.
You know, for a guy who so tenaciously defends the honor of his own candidate, you sure are cavalier with slinging mud at others.
Looks like you have your own issues with hypocritical bias.
Don't bother with a retraction or an apology. I couldn't care less
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You have yet to prove this guy's numbers are "garbage"
December 16, 2007 - 04:57 ET by sarcasmoOr even wrong. You're making even more of a fool out of yourself, but at least you've quit with the blatant lie in the sigfile. That's a start. If I were you, I'd be worried the state of Arkansas is dumb-enough to constantly-pay too much for computers. It wouldn't shock me if they did, that's for sure.
And finding this didn't take much "rooting through" the 'net, far from it. The struggle, as we've seen above, was in extracting a straight answer regarding what looks to me like blatant criminality. People who care about this country want to hold TaxHikeMike accountable for his sometimes-vanishing ethical lapses, and if there's something wrong or hypocritical with that, well, then I'm a wrong-hypocrite.
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}}---> blatant lie in the sigfile.
December 16, 2007 - 05:29 ET by Cool ArrowBut sarc, I got the quote off the Net.
Isn't that where you got your outlandish $3350 per computer information?
As you wish. Have it both ways. But it's still hypocritical bias on your part.
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Where it was pre-refuted for weeks by me!
December 16, 2007 - 05:55 ET by sarcasmoI don't "have it both ways," any more than you do by your own admission above, but I finally got an answer to my question. Face it, this is an ethical issue for Huckabee REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE REPORTER (who got emailed by me about an hour ago, so he might even comment for us) GOT HIS NUMBERS RIGHT, AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT ARKANSAS PAYS FOR COMPUTERS. Your attempt to change the subject with the ancient lie didn't work, and the outlandish price on the computer isn't mine, it's the reporter's. You still have yet to refute his number, even as you call it "outlandish."
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sarc's little dance
December 16, 2007 - 06:11 ET by Cool ArrowPlease understand sarc. At this point it's just fun watching you do your precious "little spittle on a griddle ditty" dance.
You don't care if stories about Huckabee lack accuracy, as you've indicated.
On the other hand, I don't care if Ron Paul is a racist or if all 4,000 of his deliveries were anchor babies.
Sarc, I see you as a man who regularly keeps his word. Guess you have to when nobody else will take it.
Please excuse me being unable to take you seriously anymore. But you are funny.
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Hey, when ya lie, I call ya on it.
December 16, 2007 - 06:27 ET by sarcasmoI've said repeatedly that you'll get the respect you deserve from me. And I repeat, if the reporter's numbers are not accurate (something you have yet to prove...) the ethical question regarding destruction of taxpayer-property remains. Of course, it's not the ONLY ethical question for the tax-hiker, by far...
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That IS 6 inches!!
December 15, 2007 - 23:22 ET by Mike From Canmore*There are 2 types of politicians. Those who know AGW is a scam and those who are just stupid.
OHB
December 16, 2007 - 01:29 ET by Glidedon"They only stick out about this far from my head."
I've got chunks in my stool
December 16, 2007 - 02:21 ET by fitzfongI've got chunks in my stool with more substance than Hillary.
}}---> Thanks, fitz
December 16, 2007 - 02:25 ET by Cool ArrowWe should all carry mental images such as this off to bed. Sweet dreams.
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And who says Obama isn't a
December 16, 2007 - 03:05 ET by fitzfongAnd who says Obama isn't a regular guy? Sorry.
Good night.
}}---> Regular Obama
December 16, 2007 - 03:09 ET by Cool Arroweeewww!
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My chances two months ago.
December 16, 2007 - 03:24 ET by TeamcheeserMy chances two months ago. Hillary's chances today.
Any questions?
"I have a nightmare...
December 16, 2007 - 05:28 ET by Jack BauerIf I......
December 16, 2007 - 08:38 ET by rimskysbroIf I tilt my head just right in a wind storm, my ears will actually lift me off the ground this much.
That close!
December 16, 2007 - 09:40 ET by c5thenI'm that close to kicking her fat white ass if she keeps it up.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
I'm CRUSHing your
December 16, 2007 - 11:45 ET by CloudfishI'm CRUSHing your head!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YInxjaHQiY&NR=1
Originally from Kids in the Hall---but this is a funny commercial....
"I'm this close to coming
December 16, 2007 - 12:23 ET by Rackie"I'm this close to coming down there and kickin' your sorry ass!"
Cloudfish
December 16, 2007 - 12:38 ET by BlondeI'm voting for you as the winner of this round.
That was sick. Hillarious, but sick. (Which I love, BTW).
Thanks for the great link.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
In an authoritative tone.....
December 16, 2007 - 12:32 ET by JamesonLewis3rdHe says: Here, allow me to pick that speck of sawdust from your eye.
And the crowd cries out for more.....
____________________
Hebrews 11:8
Jeremiah 33:3
Obama says
December 16, 2007 - 12:52 ET by okiehawk44this is how much of what i'm promising you're ever going to get.
Obama: "I'm simply at a
December 16, 2007 - 12:57 ET by BlazerObama:
"I'm simply at a loss for word's, but my friend here Mr. Crocodile hand will be happy to answer any question's you may have reguarding my policies."
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
About this close to being
December 16, 2007 - 16:22 ET by ChenZhenAbout this close to being funny.
Ya know....
December 16, 2007 - 17:21 ET by Mister PricklyI HAD a response to that question about my qualifications, but, ya know ... I forgot what I was going to say.
EvilCon555 I was snowed
December 16, 2007 - 19:43 ET by EvilCon555EvilCon555
I was snowed in today and watched "Man of the Year" with Robin Williams while I folded laundry (not my first choice, but as a New Englander who is a NY fan, there was nothing on TV...wink wink, nudge nudge). Every talking point in Barack's campaign ads here in NH are THE SAME AS the character in Man of the Year, about a comedian "independent" (ie Hollywood Democrat appealing to "everyman") who wins the Presidential election because of two things - supposed "disenfranchised voters", and a major computer voting glitch by a big evil corporation. He is otherwise completely unqualified to become President...and he knows it.
Has anyone noticed the similarities in the talking point rhetoric between the Hollywood schmultz of this crappy movie and Mr Obama's campaign advertisements???? I for one think he has plagarized the worst possible literary work - a hardcore liberal movie. And if we fall for it, shame on us!
For example "I am not for a blue America or a red America (I am not for Democratic America or Republican America), but for a UNITED States of America" - both candiates (William's character and Obama) make the same point. Somewhere in the movie Williams talks ALOT about politicians being beholden to lobbyists, and "never working for regular Americans" - too many Enrons and Exxons to pay back for the political money needed to get out the vote...blah, blah, blah. Obama makes the same statements almost verbatim in his poltical ads.... I won't bore you with more details, but if I didn't know better, I'd say Barack stole the "Man of theYear" playbook slogan for slogan. And that makes me do two things- worry and LAUGH. How simple do these Democrats think the voting public is? And for HBO to play the movie at the height of the Primaries is just plain insulting...and funny as heck!! Anyone with me???
Bill told Hillary this was six inches.
December 16, 2007 - 22:57 ET by BERT CONVY*
Bill told Hillary this was six inches.
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