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Richard Paey speaks!

Here. I'd say crow's on the menu today for some NB residents, from the interview.
JMR

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Sarc the rain falls on the

Sarc the rain falls on the just and unjust.  Illegal is illegal and the man knew that from the first.  The justice was served as would with anyone with the amount of drugs the man possesed.  There may be a miscarriage of justice but not anything that is not reasonable.  There is little from the case or trial taht is not hearsay from Paley or Balko.  So inshort there is no evidence he was not planning to traffic.

In short it is no reason to change the laws.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Let me get this straight...

A miscarriage of justice isn't unreasonable? Sounds like a person it didn't happen to, or someone who's not enjoying his dish of crow! And the "hearsay" got the man a full PARDON, after all the hysteria we all saw from prohibitionists right here. Keep tryin' to swallow that crow!! :)
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Sarc Im too lazy to look up

Sarc Im too lazy to look up specifics right now and you miss what my point is.  Shit happens deal with it.  The man had drugs he was not legally authorized to have, the cops busted him and he was put in prison.  Whether or not he needed the drugs is irrelevant, it is the law.  The miscarriage I was speaking of is the severity of the sentence.  Perhaps his circumstances should have been taken into account.

The hearsay was of the article itself as there were no hard facts except from the defendents viewpoint.  Onesided to say it another way.  It was all yes I am a victim.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

I'll take that just as it's worded.

For today's humor, see what happens when McCain runs into an informed police officer. The Paey article is one-sided because one side was right in that case. That's why we eventually won via pardon, after all, and without the heat of the blogosphere the hypocrite-lobby would have gotten-away with more abuse.
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}}---> Congratulations sarc

Your Law firm was representing the parapalegic?

Nope, but

My favorite blog, The Agitator, did the rest of the media's job and changed the situation on the ground by putting substantial factual heat under a cowardly-governor's butt! So we won and the authoritarian statists lost for once. :)

Those on NB who whined about the case before when I did my part to give it publicity here now get that plate of crow, just like I said above, and my wishes for a happy Thanksgiving. I'll be enjoying turkey, thanks.
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}}---> So, sarc

Does the pardon mean this guy gets all the illegal drugs he can get his hands on?

If not, he ain't really won much, now has he?

Here in Texas you get to make lots of drug runs if you're illegal and happen to get shot in the butt by Border Agents.

But that too comes to an end, so to speak.

Reading is fundamental

Florida's prisons (well, really us taxpayers) were already providing him with a higher dose than he was convicted of getting once he got behind bars. I'm just amused McCain got so-schooled by that officer, who deserves some sort of a medal. Paey's pardon, though, means what pardons mean everywhere, and presumably he'll have to find a doctor that dares prescribe him what he needs.

Once again, it was not a law firm -- justice failed. It was instead FACTUAL heat from the blogosphere (I was but a tiny part of it amid the continual whines of drug warriors here) under the butt of a cowardly governor that caused today's crow-eatin' festival. The venom for Paey amid forgiveness for Limbaugh for doing basically the same thing is yet-another instance of double-standards I've busted around here. And to think, I do this bias-bustin' for free for y'all. :)
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There now sarc

That wasn't so hard was it?

It took you a while but you finally brought Limbaugh into it without me actually saying "Trash Limbaugh already, will ya"

Put predicting that comment wasn't gonna be all that prophetic.

Nope, not Limbaugh, but *definitely*

Trashing a double-standard, for the readers in the crowd. Saying Limbaugh did what the pardoned guy did is merely telling the truth, not trashing anyone, so I guess you'd best stay away from the casino today.
JMR

PS But this is still today's crow. Thanks, Senator McCain!

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}}---> Yes, Limbaugh

Otherwise you could have as easily mentioned Brittney, Lindsay, Roger Clinton, Downey . . . etc.

But you chose Limbaugh.  Totally predictable.

Yep.

Both in FL. Both pain patients in trouble with the law. One standard on this side, and 2 on the "conservative" crow-eatin' side. Totally predictable.

But you haven't even commented on the officer who schooled McCain. Like that one, too?? :)
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}}---> sarc

When your comments are all over the board, don't expect we'll address (or independently investigate) each link to which you point.

So if that's how you eek out your "y'all are eating crow now" victories, have at it.

I love it

When you become-plural on me! And that roasted-crow was the Paey-double-standard whiners' to enjoy, like it or not, but thanks for avoiding my question about the officer schooling McCain. That's funny, too. :)
JMR

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Sarc

My favorite blog, The Agitator

Your favorite is not NB?  Are you coming here to Agitate?

 “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

The Agitator's heat

Under a reluctant governor's ass freed a man who was unjustly in prison, by repeatedly doing the news media's job for it. NB is a great blog, sure, but can NB say that?
JMR

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So NB is not your fave?

And Sarc if NB, MRC, TimesWatch, Townhall, etc are successful in providing balance to the point where the MSM must balance or die; that will have a much greater effect than individual cases.

Yes, you are even more annoying than Blonde.  the EYE

For me, Radley's Agitator beats 'em all, even NB...

That one blog did the politically-incorrect grunt-work "mainstream" journalists refused to do. That excellent journalism ultimately is what freed a man who was costing Floridians more taxes every day he was un-justly kept in prison. Radley Balko fixed an expensive legal failure with Paey, and he has gone a long way towards fixing another expensive failure in the Corey Maye case.

Individuals are what have rights that need protecting, not groups. The political left AND the political right need to keep that fact in mind. So the bottom line is: yeah, Radley's Agitator gets my vote over all other blogs, at least for this year. The MSM isn't even close to death from NB-etc., but an innocent individual is now free and home with his family, due to The Agitator. That rocks because individual freedom rocks, so I'm proud of my choice. :)
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I think most everyone know

I think most everyone know where I stand on the arms issue. The part I most pay attention to is "Congress shall make no law...."

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

"Congress shall make no

"Congress shall make no law..." is in the first amendment regarding free speech, etc.

I think the corresponding section of the second, that you might have in mind, is "shall not be infringed."

MB, the way I understand

MB, the way I understand the Constitution, the "Congress shall make no law.." applys to all 10 of the original amendments. The shall not be infringed is simply an additonal endorsement to the 2nd.

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it's good to ban guns -

it's good to ban guns - then only criminals have them - that would be good - espcially in a friendly town like inner-city DC!

Libs seem to have a death

Libs seem to have a death wish...ban guns so they cannot protect themselves, abort their offspring, socialize our country killing our freedoms...have I missed anything?

v

Yeah, you forgot one...way

Yeah, you forgot one...way down the list there...see it? 

"Outlaw Christianity"

Forget 911, I dial 10MM.

liberals want to kill freedoms??

More rational thinking . Let's see, suspending habeas corpus, domestic spying, secret rendition, outing covert CIA officials for revenge, starting criminal wars of aggression, consolidating media, but it's the Liberals you blame for your loss of freedoms?????

Oh, I see. Giving everyone the opportunity to to healthcare without being terrified that they are one big health problem away from bankrupcy is your idea of freedom!!! How can anyone argue with logic like that??

ProfessorTroll

Troll,

Your argument is flawed, your facts are wrong, and your sarcasm is pathetic.  National healthcare would ELIMINATE freedom, as it would be required by law to have GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE. 

Loss of gun rights in this country is a liberal invention.  So is hate speech.  There go Amendments 1 and 2.   

Any questions? 

Forget 911, I dial 10MM.

Hmmm...GOVERNMENT

Hmmm...GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE.  We can see how well government schools have done.  We can see how well the government retirement plan has done.

Sure why not, let's give 'em try at healthcare! ) :

v

The reason that Christianity is the best friend of government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart.
Thomas Jefferson

national healthcare is a necessity

So when someone gets a communicable disease and doesn't see a doctor because they can't afford it, the entire community is at risk. Who do you think prepares your food? I would like to know that people are healthy for my benefit. The cost of healthcare is about twice that of countries with natioanl healthcare, with worse results. Long lines for national healthcare? We pay about double what other industrial nations pay. I waited 3 months for a followup visit after a critical surgery. I waited 2 months for a hernia surgery. And I was lucky. My first surgery was over 30 thousand just for the hospital. You guys have no clue what loss of freedom is until you get swamped by thousands of dollars in medical bills. And good luck with that insurance coverage. Hope they don't find a reason to not pay your bills. You guys don't have a clue abut freedom. How about economic freedom??? You know what wage slavery is all about.

Excellent advice from

Excellent advice from someone who has been nearly impossible to fire for 25 years. Of course turning healthcare over to the government couldn't possibly have the same effect as government run schools.. could it? Why not try another social program doomed to fail? After all it's not like we have had the government f' things up before, right?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

How many conservative congressmen and senators

have given up their GOVERNMENT healthcare?   i guess they are pretty satisfied with their socialized healthcare. There are some excellent government schools like the Manhatten Beach school district, which has very high test score results on average. We've privatized much of the military with disastrous results. The public schools used to be excellent and in places still are. The biggest problem for public schools is demographics and bureaucracy.

For the past ten or more years, with perhaps one or two exceptions, the natiinal academic decathalon champs have been from public schools

 

You are naive if you think

You are naive if you think the "universal health care" that is being espoused is the same one congress critters voted themselves. haha!!

I do agree with the statement that public schools used to be excellent... but the last 40 years of liberalism and educational experimentation leaves us with one of the worst in the industrialized world.

And who where those "natiinal academic decathalon" students? Probably Asian kids. It's the parenting that made those kids, not the failed system you have helped to bring about.

 

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

How many Dems have given up tax breaks

When all they talk about is the rich dont pay enough taxes.How many Dems congressman send their kids to public school?Your right those civilian KPs have totally messed up the military.Maybe you can enlist and start scrubbing pans.

pt... Well at least you

pt...

Well at least you carry your Socialist badge proudly.

Too bad you are in the wrong country for your ideology. If it's so bad here, go home! 

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CT, the country that fit

CT, the country that fit the "professor's" ideology no longer exists. Although, the current President of Russia seems to be trying to bring it back. I don't think the "professor" understands Marx.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

You have my honest sympathy

You have my honest sympathy for your medical and financial plight. I wish you good health and prosperity. I still disagree with most of your rant.

How much of that did you

How much of that did you pay?

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

For the Shrieking Socialist

Interestingly, the countries that have tried to completely pamper their populations as you demand are ALL Going Nowhere. 

You guys don't have a clue abut freedom.  You better think again, as you are talking to one who traveled therough Alpha, Bravo AND Charlie, AND stepped inside North Korea. 

How about economic freedom???  Instead of demanding the right to steal incessantly from me, GET YOUR OWN as I have.

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

laughable post professor.

laughable post professor. More proof you havent a concept of what is and is not.

As Reba would say, "Ya moron!"

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bassndude, good to see I can cheer up the mentally handicapped

You meant to say that since my ideas disagree with yours, you have the eternal truths. I guess that makes you kind of a God.... of delusions. go see Michael Moore's Sicko and I think you would see how the health insurance companies are nothing other than parasites who profit off the deaths of people. The more death they cause by denying insurance, the more profit they make. That seems to be the battlcry for many of you, "give me profit and give them death." Kind of like a free market version of Patrick henry.

Untrue oh professor of

Untrue oh professor of untruth. It's in the Insurance companies own best interest for you to remain healthy and alive!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

sorry to burst your bubble of ignorance but

the insurance companies make money by denying care, or refusing to pay for care. These should be obvious truths but alas, there are some slow witted mind sloths here. By the way, who provides me freedom and how do they do it?

the insurance companies

the insurance companies make money by denying care, or refusing to pay for care. These should be obvious truths but alas, there are some slow witted mind sloths here. By the way, who provides me freedom and how do they do it?  And have you investigated how long it takes for simple things in a governmnet run health care or what procedures are denied?

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

who provides me freedom and

who provides me freedom and how do they do it?

If you have to ask that question you are even more of an ingrate than I thought.

And answer me this prof. I you die and stop paying insurance premiums, how does that benifit the insurance company? What I said is true insurance companies want you healthy alive and making payments. Ask em!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MIghty

Oi....the perfessor is now recommending Michael Moore's movie here as "fact"...just how lame of a troll is this newest one?

Sheesh.  Unbelievable. I'm resurrecting one of my old standby's.

We need a better class of troll, here.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Talk about ignorance!

Talk about ignorance! "Professor", my degree is in Actuarial Science, so I would say I have a bit more understanding of insurance than you do. If insurance companies tried to make money the way you just described, every one of them would be out of business. If the state insurance commissions didn't do it, the policy holders and stock holders would. Insurance companies make money by investing the premiums paid. They make money by utilizing the properties of the Law of Large Numbers. The premiums paid for any insurance, including health insurance, do not begin to pay for what they could expend on an individual policy holder. The insurance companies make money because they know that not every homeowner with a fire insurance policy is going to incur a total loss. Otherwise, they would charge a $100,000 premium for $100,000 worth of coverage. (Actually, they would have to charge more than the face amount in order for them to make any money.) The insurance companies make money by providing you with the service of assuming your risk of loss. If you wanted to make an accurate statement, "professor", you should have said that the insurance companies keep from going bankrupt by denying frivolous or fraudulent claims, and denying coverage for risks you did not pay for. If they deny claims which are covered in the insurance contract, they can (and occasionally do) get hammered by the insurance commission.

"Professor" you wouldn't know an "obvious truth" if it bit you in the ***.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Dear Shrieking

Dear Shrieking Socialist,

If habeas corpus is nonexistent, why am I in TX right now rather than languishing in a jail cell in Anchorage due to a traffic stop? 

Giving see, this is a major problem you have.  NO ONE deserves to be given ANYTHING at all.  The sooner you accept that simple fact of life, the better off you will be. everyone the opportunity to to healthcare we already do without being terrified that they are one big health problem away from bankrupcy oh, so because people do irresponsible things with their money, that is somehow MY problem?  is your idea of freedom Your idea of freedom seems to be a government that exhibits complete, micromanaging, total control of every aspect of your life.  The countries that tried that no longer exist.  I wonder why that is?  !!!

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Sorry to disagree, but

Sorry to disagree, but technically the phrase "congress shall make no law" only appears in the first amendment. The constitution spells out where and how the congress can make laws, and they make laws all the time, so in my opinion, you can't say the whole Constitution implies that Congress can't make laws.

I might all be semantics, and we may have to agree to disagree.

}}---> Bass

"shall not be infringed" means "don't even tiptoe up to it and act like you're gonna make a law against it.

What's sad is that a governing body believes it can affect Federal law with their local gun ban.

Seems to me DC needs to ban violent crime.  Just a thought.

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JDW

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I am NOT messing with my

I am NOT messing with my Firefox! Every time I do, I lose all my bookmarks, and I always forget where the profile thing is and how to get them back.

If it ain't broke, I ain't "fixin' it."

bookmarks

This is a software upgrade which will enhance bookmarking, not eliminate it.

Your only concern should be the fact that it is a Beta product. Maybe wait for the real thing.

JDW

Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters

 

I think the Supreme Court

I think the Supreme Court will uphold the constitutional right of Americans to own a firearm.  I would be stunned if this right were taken away.  I really don't think this will even be a close vote, perhaps Ginsberg will call for an act of Congress to amend the constitution, but I think even she would know she doesn't have the power to change the constitution.

I hope you're right

But the Supremes could have achieved that result simply by letting the (correct, IMO) lower court ruling stand. Hopefully, my fears & the NYT editorial board's hopes regarding this case are misplaced.
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 But the Supremes could

 But the Supremes could have achieved that result simply by letting the (correct, IMO) lower court ruling stand.

Not completely, Sarc.  The circuit court's ruling would have been persuasive authority at best.  A SCOTUS ruling makes it supreme law that is mandatory and primary authority for any and all future court cases of any 2nd Amendment nature, and can be cited to support many future decisions.

I understand it's a risk, but that's what the DC gubmint wanted in their arrogance, so now they have to live with the results.  As General Patton used to say (paraphrasing), let's not take counsel of our fears.

I had a chance to meet Alan Gura and his team at the Gun Rights Policy Conference in October, and I can attest that these guys are supremely confident (sorry, pun) that they will win this case.  DC has to show that the Circuit Court erred in its decision, and this will be hard to do, as the Circuit Court adhered to the law. 

The only question is what KIND of decision the 5-4 will be, narrow or sweeping.  I suspect narrow, but a victory is a victory, and leads to other victories.

All that said, I'm augmenting my "collection" in prep for the worst (just in case).

Forget 911, I dial 10MM.

I hope you are correct.

I'd have been satisfied with the narrow ruling sure-thing victory, especially considering the prospect of a narrow win like 5-4 where the other side will get excited. The Brady Bunch is already asking for money, according to spies.

To me, this feels like winning at blackjack & then "letting it ride" for the next hand rather than taking the money from the casino, so it's uncomfortable. I'm also aware that "we" have excellent legal minds on our side, but I guess it's just my nature to worry about this stuff.
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I know what you mean by

I know what you mean by letting it ride.  I guess another way to look at it is this:

With 20,000 gun laws on the books and the FED and local govs militarizing themselves to the teeth, things can't get a whole lot worse for the Citizenry.  This is more like going for broke when you see an opening. 

Poker analogy:  We're holding trip aces and DC has reraised but has betrayed a tell.  It's time to go all in.

There hasn't been a better opportunity since 1939, thanks to a lack of good justices back in '68 and a good situation like we have here.  The time to strike is NOW, and we're doing that.  There's a risk that this could bite us, but I believe fearing that risk is unfounded.  Even if this goes the other way, I suspect people will be awakened to the danger and might just "throw the bums out."

Either way, it's in God's hands now.  We can't even lobby for this - it's up to nine unelected officials in black robes.  Only God can influence them now.

No sense worrying about it - just go buy some more guns!

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The ironic thing to me

The ironic thing to me (which was pointed out by some prominent conservative) is that Liberals can see an inalienable right to an abortion where there is absolutely no mention of it, yet they can't see the right to keep and bear arms when the friggin' words are right in front of their faces!  It's insanity.

Samuelson on the credit crunch

Robert Samuelson has a must-read article on the political impact of the credit crunch. He makes an interesting claim: Iraq aside, Democrats and Republicans are dead even. How Iraq breaks will swing the election. But, argues Samuelson, the credit situation will also be a huge factor. The current securitization model for how we "finance" finance is part of the normal credit cycle, but if it breaks badly during the election, people won't see it as part of any cycle. They'll just feel the pinch, and vote that way.

Worth thinking about ...

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Forget 911, I dial 10MM.

Doom and Gloom/Hillary's Qualifications?

I do not see this doom and gloom economy that the MSM keeps talking about. Yesterday I was in the grocery store. All the check outs were open. (First time I ever saw that.) There were people in each line. Drive on highway 43 north towards Greenville, NC and you see houses being built everywhere. Travel from here down US 17 south to US 70 east and there are houses going up all along the way to Havelock. The past few times I have been in Greenville, the stores have been crowded. Maybe these reporters need to off their duffs and look around.

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Seems that Hillary is mocking O’Bama about his foreign policy experience. I would like someone to tell me where she gets her experience. Sitting in on cabinet meetings? That is the same as Cole Trickle in Days of Thunder saying he learned to drive watching Dale Earnhardt on ESPN. Please Leon tell me where she is so qualified to be POTUS. From what I have seen she would not qualify for dog catcher because she has never worked a real job like the rest of us.

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Humped Back lie of the week: "From the beginning, Mr. Vick has accepted responsibility for his actions, and his self-surrender further demonstrates that acceptance,” Billy Martin, Vick’s attorney. Right, only after his homeboys turned on him did he accept any responsibility.

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I think that I am going to take a break from politics for the next few days. My daughter, husband and their 3 kids are here. My oldest son and his 2 are coming and my other son, his fiancée and her son will be here tomorrow. My daughter in Pensacola can’t come because her doctor won’t let her travel. She is going to fix dinner for about 10 Marines that are in her husband’s class at Corry Station that couldn’t go home. I thought that that was nice of her.

 I’ll be back on Friday to give my opinions on this week’s rivalry games. Have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. No sense telling you not to eat too much. I don’t listen so why should y’all. By the way turkey causes some to have gas. Please try to hold it we don’t want to be seen as contributing to global warming.

Democracy: Three wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

MRS CLINTON

There's a fantastic article here today which details the qualifications, intentions, and focus on Obama.

JDW

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Individual Rights

I don't think it's the right to bear arms that they're taking up.  Its the right of the individual to bear arms. 

Until the Bush administration, the others, including The Gipper if I'm not mistaken, indicated that that right belonged to the state, not the individual.  The Bush administration changed that to indicate that the individual bears that right.

This makes sense because all of the other rights enumerated in the amendments are for the individual.  So why would nine of the ammendments guarantee an individual right but one of them would guarantee a group right?

Unfortunately SCOTUS will most likely look at what was defined before in some sort of Stare Decis (spelling) thing instead of looking at original intent.

Since government is coercion, politics is largely the exercise of deception regarding the intended use of coercion - George Orwell

Forgetting history

It's good to remember that many Americans were on the frontier when the second amendment was written. For those people, armed defense wasn't just an option; it was a communal obligation. The reason why individuals needed to own their own guns is that when a community was under attack, they didn't have time to distribute rifles. People needed to come out firing.

I'm not sure how many American towns are facing imminent raids, but that's the history.

KC, if this is so, then why

KC, if this is so, then why did the founding fathers insist that the tyneary that was so prevalent in Europe would not occur here because of the second ammendment? An armed population was seen as necessary to security and freedom.

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To be clear

Not sure if you're taking me the right way, bassndude. I'm not against the second amendment.

When you analyze the second amendment, you see that the text is more concerned with whether the government can infringe on the right to bear arms. But apparently, the Founders took it for granted that everyone knew what the right was. They didn't spell it out because they saw no reason to explain it. Everyone already knew that, right? Well, subsequent generations lost that. We don't know what they took for granted. Does the right apply to individuals or to the state as a whole?

I argue that because these people included frontiersmen, and those people had clear reason to own their individual weapons, then the benefit of the doubt should go to the individual interpretation. Strict originalism would demand that since that's what the Founders took for granted, then that's the interpretation that was agreed to, and that's what passes constitutional muster.

Individuals right to arms is not taken away by handgun ban

If they take away the handgun ban why can't I have a missile in my house.

 

ITAR

ITAR. Let's concentrate on the issue at hand.

Why would the Supremes take this case if they could have just let the lower court ruling stand to achieve a good result? Am I right to be worried and is the NYT editorial board right to have hopes of more control-freakery? Here's hoping not, and Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
JMR

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Just to clarify, Sarc,

Just to clarify, Sarc, since you asked the same question in two places, DC asked for the hearing and Gura et al did not oppose.  Our guys WANT this settled in the SCOTUS.  I heard them say so at the GRPC.  DC has fallen into a trap here.  These boys are good, and they will win.  They've already won twice, you know.  Courage!

Forget 911, I dial 10MM.

Thanks!

Now I feel good, and I think you're right. But I'm afraid the good feeling might just be that nasty "gambling high," speaking of which....
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The Second

The 2nd Amendment is our last great hope that we will be able to preserve the other 9... or at least what remains of them.  By last count, much of the 1st, 5th and the 10th are gone.

<insert witty signature here>

 I don't really care what

 I don't really care what the SCOTUS says or don't says about guns.  They aren't getting mine in any case. Ever.  As much as it pains me to quote a Democrat, even a long dead one who is nothing like these present day Neo-Stalinist, here goes.

Andrew Jackson once said about the SCOTUS:  "They made the law,  let them enforce it".  This quote fits on any ruling about guns/firearms.  I'm not worried.

Springfield XD 60 .44 ACP

The Open thread pic looks like a Springfield XD 60. Not Sure if it's  .44 or .45 ACP.

I fired one of those SWEET pistols whilst on my Honeymoon in the Poconos this year.  Sunset Hill it was called.  It was a surprise from her.   While there, we shot and M1 Garand, AR15, and a  Colt revolver.  I forget the name of the revolver.  Place was awesome.  All you pay for is ammunition.  I dropped some dough for that!

SSS,From one gun culture

SSS,

From one gun culture member to another, CONGRATS on your nuptials!  Glad you got to do some shooting.  Glad to hear she likes to shoot too - there's nothing sexier than a hot babe busting caps! 

Forget 911, I dial 10MM.

we shot and M1 Garand

I am soooo jealous. Are you a CMP member six? The new Garands are in!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Mightymouth

No, not a member of anything yet. Well, unless the Minuteman Dart League counts.. :-) My Dad just bought an M1 carbine. THe only thing that is bad about that gun is GOOD 30 cal ammo is hard to find! Other than that, those full metal jackets are unstoppable!

 


Islamic Religious Services Will Be Held at the Firing Range At 0800 Daily.

Six String....Yes... it is an XD

Six String Spiff... The picture is indeed one of a Springfield XD.  However, they are not chambered for the .44 caliber.  They are produced in 9mm, 40S&W, and 45 ACP. Being the .44 is a cartridge with a rimmed case, it has some unique problems when being used in a semi auto pistol.  One maker that has enjoyed some commercial success with the 44 in a semi auto is Magnum Research and the Desert Eagle.

But I must say that I am more of a 1911 fan and enjoy ones like this, or that

This is going to be an interesting issue to follow.  My vote is that SCOTUS will indeed rule in favor of the 2nd ammendment. 

For those of you who do not have enough reading to do, some additional reading you may find of interest is available here, here, & here

And I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving!

From listening to my

From listening to my MSNBC-addicted brother crow about it last night, I thought that the Scott McClellan claim that Bush, Cheney, and Rove planned the Plame "outing" would be the huge story on all the news and here. I'm not seeing much about it. Is this, like I asked my brother in reply, last night, important to him, Chris Matthews, and Olbermann?

By the way, is McClellan the latest ex-Bush operative or official trying to pump up sells of their memoirs by accusing Bush of something bad? Does he know that, otherwise, his book would be heading straight to the $7.98 bargain table at Barnes and Noble? Was he forced out of the press secretary job? There's something behind this, other than a clear conscience...

On McClellan

I'm withholding my opinion until I get McClellan's take on this. I haven't heard his response if he has made one yet. If anyone has please inform.

I think this it was former CIA chief Tenant that according to the demedia supposedly attacked Cheney on Iraq but I came away with a totally different opinion when I heard Tenant's version. Possibly this is more of the same or maybe I'm wrong on the Tenant controversy.

Regardless, I would like to hear McClellan speak on the matter before I react Chris.

The news media certainly doesn't cover it

And the acronym is somewhat-ribald, but has anyone pondered the mind-set of a community that literally-needed to come up with a word like "BOHICA"??
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

Sarc..I have seen it on

Sarc..I have seen it on hard-hats at work...lol..I know exactly what it means...