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Amazing football schedule today. What will be the game of the day, and what's this week's huge upset?

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Iran's military parade

I noticed on Fox News.com that Iran paraded it's military hardware around yesterday, and that many of the missiles had "Death to America" written on them. Yet, Columbia University and the National Press Club still want to invite him as an honored guest.

I also searched CNN.com for a similar news article. Not to be found anywhere. Wonder what kind of priority CNN is applying to their news stories today?

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

jeff gordon and jimmie johnson hitting the wall HARD

lunaticcringeradio

Huzzah! There is a hearing

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"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln

Michigan over Penn State

Michigan over Penn State

oh, and go Rams! Ram

oh, and go Rams! Ram Houston!

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln

 This just in..there has

 This just in..there has been a massive de-ramming in Houston today...news at 10.

rimsky, LOL-you stole my thunder.

Besides, I think they are about due.

Heres another possible: NM State over Auburn. LOL.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

I've read several takes on

I've read several takes on Dan Rather's lawsuit against CBS, but this one by Johah Goldberg is a hoot! I love Johah's way of putting things!

"Hurricane Dan" Still Blowing Hot Air

MB, That is a great

MB,

That is a great article.  Makes Rather look even dumber than he apparently is for filing this lawsuit.  Thanks for the link. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

BOTTOM FIVE

I know that ESPN has it's Bottom Ten. My criteria is different. I only look at schools that play in BCS conferences and actually have a chance at a BCS bowl. Therefore, schools like Temple, FIU, Rice and Dook are excluded. So here we go.

1- Noter Dame-That's the way we say it in the South.

2-Mechegann

3-Tie Tenn/Auburn. This ranking is based on the BS they put out in their media guides

5-Wake Forest-They are the current ACC champs

Crummy game of the week Clem's son at NC State. Dook is puke, Wake is fake but the team I hate is NC State. GO HEELS

Rout of the week LSU 45 Gamechickens 6. The game hens the most overrated team in the SEC.

Upset special of the week Jawja 24 Bama 16. It is too bad that the great Larry Munson is not broadcasting away games. He would go nuts over this one. Sirius Radio is carrying the Bama broadcast with Eli Gold.

Before any of you take me too seriously, I thought that Willie Parker and Ronald Curry would never do anything in the NFL when they left Carolina.

For my NASCAR buddies. Winner at Dover-Tony Stewart.

 

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For my NASCAR buddies.


For my NASCAR buddies. Winner at Dover-Tony Stewart.

Bbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! Giant Razzberry!!!

Jeff Gordon!!!!!!

If not Jeff, anyone but Stewart!! Blech!

The Dragon Lady will be on

The Dragon Lady will be on with Chris Wallace tomorrow morning. Do you think there's a good chance Chris will ask some challenging questions, or will he be intimidated from the way The Great Stainmaker treated him a year ago? And if he does ask or bring up anything challenging or negative about the She-Devil, do you think she'll react similarly as her "husband" did last year?

And I see she's also on "Face the Nation" and "Meet the Press" tomorrow too (I'm not sure about "This Week").  We know what will happen with these shows! Just like last year after Sick Willie went ballistic on Chris Wallace he then soon went on Meet the Press, and Tim Russert didn't dare ask anything that would get under his skin.

BEAT THE SHE-DEVIL IN 2008!

HE

I hope he does (ask tough questions) and she does (go ballistic).  That's what I'd call "must see TV". 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

The Shrillster won't go

The Shrillster won't go ballistic.  She is way too controlled.  You can tell which questions she was worried about because she has  a long-prepared canned response...she will do that hahaha thing that she does (Chris, you're such a card!!) and begin her answer "well, you know, Chris..."

And then sooner or later she'll go into that "condescension" thing, about how she can't control what people say about her, and she doesn't waste her time worrying about it, because it's time to talk about the 40 million people without health insurance, and the increasing strain on "working families" yada, yada, yada.

(I can't worry about myself, Chris, I have the entire country to save!!)  

She is so canned and predictable it isn't even funny anymore. She is the Stepford candidate. You can even see her "working" at the body language thing. <GAG>

Agreed, mb

But I would surely love to see the big meltdown.

Maybe Chris should put a little something in her coffee....quadruple dose of caffiene to make her overly agitated...I'd love to see her melt down on national tv.

And we know she has a filthy temper. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Fox should boycott her

Fox should boycott her

gc.... I agree. As far as I

gc....
I agree.

As far as I am concerned her and Soros and ilk had everything to do with the leftists not debating on FOX.

They seem to be begging for these POS to come on their shows.

Pathetic if you ask me.

Btw...How long has the text and not being able to link ect been like this, just today?

Evening, blonde. I have

Evening, blonde. I have been trying to find audio of that speech she gave some time ago (Hannity played it over and over) where she was railing about having a right to criticize the government, and she just kept getting louder and louder....she was really screaming by the time she got to the end.....

But that's not likely to happen in a 1 on 1 interview. Besides, she's a whole lot more controlled than her husband. He's the emotional one, she's very tightly controlled; everything she does and says is practiced, right down to the "correct" body language.

She'll smile at Wallace, no matter what, then go home and break some furniture.

Back at you MB

I agree with everything you've said.  With the caveat that Hillary thinks she's so smart, and she is so unused to being confronted or contradicted that if it happens more than once or twice, I think she might let her guard down if she gets mad.

I'm not sure Chris Wallace is intimidated by her, and I think he enjoyed all of the attention he got after Bill shoved his finger in Chris' face.  So perhaps it's in the back of Wallace's mind to provoke Hillary?  I'm hoping.

You're spot on about the body language, too.  Too bad for HRC that she's not a very good actress.    (Nor a singer...do you remember that video of her singing the National anthem...she didn't know the words, as well as not being able to carry a tune in a bucket....sheesh!)

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Bravo motherbelt, boy did

Bravo motherbelt, boy did you ever accurately call this one. The Dragon Lady did everything you said she would. Boy were all three of those cackles loud, phony and obnoxious! Just like the wicked witch she is. And I'm glad Chris Wallace didn't shy away from asking her challenging questions. But as you said, she ignored them all and got into her talking points about "Well I'm focused on getting us out of Iraq and if this president won't do it then when I'm president I will" and her usual 47 million unisured health care nonsense.

The She-Devil ignored Chris's questions about her health plan creating new government mandates, about if she'll repudiate the moveon.org disgusting ad about General Petraeus (she says, "I think we should focus on Iraq and not debate about an ad"!!!!!), and every other question he asked. When he asked if George Bush had a point about her sticking by Moveon over the military she said no her doesn't have a point, but then, as always, stated no reasons why. She just launched into the same old tired pre planned talking points again. Her template is be negative about Bush 100% of the time but never using any substance or specifics (because there aren't any). Ironically, at the outset of the interview she said something about how we need to debate issues with substance because these are serious issues affecting our country! Substance is something she lacks more than Hawaii does snow (although maybe Algore's climate change can fix that).

Thought it was also so extremely frightening and insulting of her to say that she thinks Americans are eager to start acting like Americans again. I guess when Republicans are in the White House our very country ceases to be America, according to her.

And she boasts of winning 67% of the vote in New York. Yeah that makes her qualified for President, because she spent huge amounts of money (and received huge amounts of illegal contributions in both 2000 and 2006) to win election in a highly Democrat state.

Chris did what he could (except he could have interrupted her a little sooner when she went on and on and on with her blah blah blah talking points that were totally dodging his questions) in the limited time he had in this interview. I thought she looked extremely phony, irritating, unqualified, and disingenuous. But sadly her supporters were probably taken in by her "bring the troops home" and "47 million uninsured" horsespit, while not even realizing she was ducking the questions completely. And then, of course, there are also her supporters who can see through her fraud but will vote for her anyway because they want a big government socialist Democrat in the White House.

Oh yeah and isn't it something how she "answered" Chris's question about not supporting funding the troops by saying the best way to support the troops is to bring them home. Oh, so while they remain in Iraq let's not give them the equipment and funding they need. Boy she really supports those troops. (of course, the whole thing is ridiculous anyway because we all know she voted for the war and said Saddam Hussein had WMDs and needed to be disarmed. And now tries to say she had faulty intelligence but Bush somehow knew it was faulty but lied anyway. HA!).

But, as absurd and maddening and dangerous as it is, she's likely going to be voted into office next November. All I can say is:

 BEAT THE SHE-DEVIL IN 2008!

Chris Wallace

Chris Wallace doesn't get intimidated easily, did you hear his diatribe against Bill Moyer a couple of weeks ago? Chris'll ask Hillary tough questions and she'll navigate her way around them, using her pre-planned talking points, and never answer any she doesn't want to. I tape the show because it's on at 6 am here, but I'll only force myself to listen to her grating voice if I later read that she actually said something worth hearing. Then I'll listen so I can get the real context of what she was asked and how she answered.

 

"Our people have shed more blood for the liberty and freedom of other peoples...than all the other countries put together. And I don't feel any need to apologize for the United States of America" - Fred Thompson

Oh it absolutely would be

Oh it absolutely would be must see tv if the witch goes nutzoid. I sure hope Chris throws more than softballs, but my gut feeling is he will be far easier on her than he is on everyone else. Still, if he at least can muster the courage to ask her even one challenging question it will be one more challenging question than she's had in all of 2007.

And I also agree that she'll have her pre planned talking points ready and will dodge or ignore altogether anything challenging. But the thing is, unlike the "debates", this is an opportunity for Chris to then say, "Well with all due respect, Mrs. Clinton, that isn't what I asked you." It does little good to ask a tough question, then allow the person to ignore it completely, and then proceed to ask a different question as if she addressed the prior question. (However, that scenario would at least show viewers how she can't face questions of substance. Other than those dumb enough to be fooled by her talking points into thinking she did answer them).

 BEAT THE SHE-DEVIL IN 2008!

if Chris really is able to

if Chris really is able to get around her ignoring questions she doesn't want to answer i will be amazed

  “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Should be fun

but my gut feeling is he will be far easier on her than he is on everyone else.

 

I am suprised she agreed to appear with Wallace after Bills little tantrum. Anyone think there are conditions to her appearance?

Don't torture yourself,

Don't torture yourself, chaitealover....if she says anything worthwhile, the video will be posted on here soon enough! Then you just get the meat, and don't have to wade through the garbage!

Great SEC Games today

Hard for me to pick them in the SEC this week....multiple conflict of interests. 

Except, of course for my Gators, who are taking the field momentarily. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Can I make a suggestion ?

Can I make a suggestion ? ROLL TIDE !

nixon,

LOL-Ahh, I'll settle for Roll-Over Tide.

Go you hairy dogs!

(Sheez, hope my relatives over in Alabama aren't reading this)


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Upset special

See my earlier post below on the bottom five. Jawja 24 Bama 16. The Junkyard dog defence is back! Sic'em Dawgs.

The fans at Bama are going to have to accept the fact that the Bear is gone. Saban will never replace the Bear. I put him on the level with Gene Stallings. As long as Myers is at Florida and Miles is at LSU I don't see the Tide winning an SEC championship. As a matter of fact, I don't see them winning the west.

 

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Sure, nix. The ESPN Game

Sure, nix.

The ESPN Game Day was good today, there.

I can go with that one.  Dawgs are almost as bad as FSU.

Speaking of which, has anyone seen the "Bobby Bowden Statue" ad for AllState?  LMAO. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Gee, thanx, Blonde.

But your right, they haven't looked impressive at all so far.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Sorry Dave. East is East

Sorry Dave.

East is East and West is West.

Besides, I like seeing the Dawgs & Fat Phil in the cellar of the SEC East. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde,

Ahh, this wouldn't have anything to do with a certain team in Florida that Mark Richt once offensive-coordinated for, would it?


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Dave

Nope.  I usually am a fan of former coaches.  In fact, I'm kind of hoping Steve'O does well today....except I'd prefer to not have LSU in a crankier mood than they'll be when we go there in two weeks.

I love Bobby Stoops.

We're looking a little shaky right now. 

GA & TN are THE rivals in the East.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde,

Just eyeballed the scoreboard. Five minutes left in the 1st qtr. and no Gator TDs?

Yipes.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Dave

We just went on 4th & 2.  This a young team...I think it's the first road trip for like 45 players!

Wait for it.   We're settling in.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Tebow to Harvin  TD  

Tebow to Harvin  TD

  “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

B

Tebow has the arm and the size will he be at UF for his senior year?

  “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

b

Matters not at all.  His back up is his clone and is bigger and heavier.  The top H.S. quarterback just committed to UF.  I think Tebow will stay tho...he wants to lead a team to the National Championship himself.

The Rebs are being troublesome today.  Just scored a field goal.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

except I'd prefer to not

except I'd prefer to not have LSU in a crankier mood than they'll be when we go there in two weeks.

We might loose one this year, but it won't be to Fla, last year is still fresh in our minds. Trust me.

Ol Miss played you guys pretty tough, nice to see them playing hard.

Gamecocks are giving LSU a good game as well. And thank heavens ND finally scored a TD, twice so far!!!

Speaking of an ad

Did anyone see the E-trade ad? It was based on what you could do with one finger. Like show the other team your team is #1, get to know your doctor better or plug a dike in Holland. The one they left out was to show Hillary what she could do to herself.

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 Hook'em

 Hook'em

Outta here

I think that I am going to Wal Mart. USF is having their way with my Heels.

West "By God' Virginia is mopping the field with the Pirates.

Clem's son is proving me right when I said that this game is the crummy game of the week.

No other games on in this area.

I may be back after the Dawgs finish off Bama if I don't go to sleep.

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USF

I am a product of the University of South Florida (Class of 1998) and am proudly watching the USF Bulls have their way with schools with much richer football histories. USF began its football program in 1997 under the leadership of Jim Leavitt, joining the Big East in 2005. Currently ranked 23/24 in the nation, the team is ranked number 2 after Florida. Once again they have fielded a dynamic high scoring team, which is nearly entirely populated by Florida HS products. Go Bulls.

Brady

Congrats on the win.

The USF program has come a long way, really fast.   I'm glad, too.  It's nice to be able to challenge California as THE football state...at least on the college level.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Sorry,don't mean to

Sorry,don't mean to interrupt, but I think you forgot about Texas.

Football, on all levels, is fairly important here. Note in the link that Texas ranks number one.

Thank you.

restless

you are correct, here in CA it's just too dang nice out (surfing, hiking, biking, rollerblading, off roading, fishing, bbq, ocean, mountains, hills) people do other things

  “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Go Syracuse!

Keep your fingers crossed, Orange fans.

Hey No More

I like Syracuse.

One of the best bowl games I ever went to was Florida - Syracuse in the Orange Bowl.    The game was at the real O-Bowl....a full moon to boot.

The pre-game party was a blast with everyone in Orange & Blue.  Huge blizzard....you guys were all just thrilled to be in lovely South Florida.  Great bunch of fans.  

So I'll second your go Syracuse!

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

NMC,

Looks like Syracuse is mopping the floor with Louisville 38-21.

Didn't see that one coming.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Syracuse Holds On!

38-35 over Louisville . . . upset of the day.

Man, it's been a season of

Man, it's been a season of disappointments. Notre Dame, Louisville, UCLA, Michigan, Tennessee. Geez.

At least Penn State is choking. Woohoo!

Whew, Gators Won

Ole Miss played really tough.

30 - 24.

Timmy Tebow is a force of nature.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

"Timmy Tebow is a force of nature."

Good one. :^)
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

Thanks, Sarc.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

HsuGate Levee Breaks... Dems Flee

 

-- Norman Hsu was charged withe [sic] bilking millions for Hillary Clinton. (AP [photo caption]) -- ABC News

-- [F]ederal authorities charged [Hsu] in New York
with bilking investors out of $60 million. Investigators say he donated
some of that money to numerous Democratic candidates and causes over
the past several years.

According to the complaint, [Hsu] admitted taking $60 million from
investors to fund "phony" companies and used the money to finance a
lavish lifestyle and considerable campaign contributions. -- Yahoo News

-- According to the lawsuit, [California investor Martin] Waters invested with
Hsu in part because "prominent persons, including Sen. Hillary Clinton,
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, California Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown,
national Democratic political adviser James Carville, film director
Steven Spielberg, actor (Tobey) Maguire, grocery store
magnate/billionaire Ron Burkle and others introduced and/or endorsed
Hsu as a friend, colleague and trusted associate."

[California State Attorney General, Jerry] Brown's
spokesman, Gareth Lacy, said Brown may have briefly attended [a Hsu fundraising] event
but did not praise [then California convicted fraudster and wanted fugitive] Hsu "or in any way vouch for him. -- Fox News

[emphasis added]


Does anyone have a picture of California Top Cop Jerry Brown and
Fugitive Convict Norman Hsu shaking hands at a Hsu Democratic
fundraiser? I am sure one must exist.

 

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The rout is on

The rout is on in Baton Rogue. I am sticking by my earlier prediction. The ole ball coach is being out coached and his hens are being out played. I look for the Tigers to put it away early in the 2nd half. That big offensive line is wearing the hens out.

How about Syracuse? It looks like Brohm's Heisman is gone.

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We are having our first of

We are having our first of what will obviously be many "Stolen Valor" moments for the Iraq War vets.

Surprise that this is not leading in the news, right?

A Washington man, whose claims to have slaughtered civilians as a U.S. Army Ranger in Iraq were seen by millions on YouTube, admitted in federal court in Seattle today that he was a fake and a liar.

Jesse Adam Macbeth, 23, pleaded guilty to charges he faked his war record.

“He was in the Army for 40 days before he was kicked out of boot camp for being unfit,” said U.S. Attorney Jeffrey C. Sullivan. “He was never in Iraq.”

Macbeth’s story of killing men and women as they left a Baghdad mosque included claims that he was a U.S. Army Ranger and had received the Purple Heart for injuries suffered in combat in Iraq.

His interview was translated into Arabic and distributed in the Middle East, said the U.S. attorney.

“Macbeth’s lies fueled hostility to our servicemen in Iraq and here at home,” Sullivan said.

Macbeth, the phony U.S. soldier who claimed to have committed atrocities, was sentenced to five months in jail.

He told the judge today he wanted to apologize to “the real American heroes.”

He said he lied about his military record in order to get money and treatment from the VA hospital.

BD

Apparently Macbeth was born as Al-Zaid.

Too bad he couldn't have been locked up for double digit years.  Maybe for attempted theft or something.

I found this which lays out some of the details of his false claims.  What a jerk.

I hadn't heard about this before you posted it, so thanks.

 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

The sad part is

that many, many u-tube viewers have seen his lies but aren't aware enough of the real world to understand where to find actual news, so they will never hear his confession and will believe the worst of our brave military.

Chai

 

"Our people have shed more blood for the liberty and freedom of other peoples...than all the other countries put together. And I don't feel any need to apologize for the United States of America" - Fred Thompson

This may have been written

This may have been written about today already....

Good ol' Spitzer....keeping NYC a Sanctuary One. (I am experimenting today, so sorry about the link, may get this fixed eventually...lol)

I have despised that man since day one, he proves to me why more and more.

Dawgs 26 Tide 23. Wow, what a finish!

:-)


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Congrats, Dave.  Your

Congrats, Dave.  Your Dawgs hung tough. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde,

Thanks.

LOL-Damn, one more game like that and I'm going to have a friggin' stroke.

When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Now Here's Some NEWS!

Here's a news source you can TRUST!

Firesign Theatre founder Peter Bergman will be anchoring the news on the CBS all-news station KFWB in LA from 1 AM to 5 AM Pacific time (4 AM to 8 AM Eastern) this Sunday and Monday morning, and again Saturday and Sunday mornings for the next two weekends.

You can stream KFWB on their website at www.kfwb.com

How 'bout 'em Dawgs?

My upset special was the Dawgs over Bama. I knew they had it in them.  I am going to crow about that all week.

The headline in our local paper: Blowout Central: ECU, NC State, and UNC all lose-big. It was not a good day for a team that had Carolina in their name. This included the hens from Columbia.

App State lost to Wofford in Spartanburg. This ended their hold on the nation's longest winning streak at 17.

 There is no doubt that record setting Noter Dame will be number one in our Bottom Five. Never in its 119 year history has it ever gone 0-4.

Hey Blonde, watch out for 'em Dawgs.  Is the game "between the hedges" or is still in Jacksonville? I really think right now that Canetucky is going to be your biggest threat in the east.

I hope that the Jawja mo doesn't carry over to the Falcons. I can't bear to think that those wimps beat my Panthers.

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NEWSFLASH

Just read that Maureen McCormick (Marcia  Brady) is coming out with a new book "Here's the Story." In it she claims that she and Eva Plumb (Jan Brady) had a lesbian affair while filming the show. This in addtion to Greg (Barry something or other) claiming that he and Florence Henderson had a fling.

I believe that the guy who played the father, Robert Reed (?) was gay. Was he a member of NAMBLA and had way his with Peter? Maybe that will be next.

 

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