Soros Calls for Government Control of Markets, Even If It Means ‘Wiping Out the Shareholders’


Billionaire investor George Soros called for more government monitoring and involvement in markets in an interview on CNBC January 23.

"Now we really have to reconsider the whole policy, which has been in my opinion misplaced, of relying on the markets to police themselves," Soros told Maria Bartiromo in Davos, Switzerland, "to recognize the risks. And there are risks which it is the job of the authorities to control, and the authorities have abdicated their responsibilities. So did the rating agencies."

Soros slammed the government for "not taking the right steps in dealing with" what he called upset financial markets. "[T]he authorities ought to move into the market makers, look at the books and make sure that the bad risks are recognized and reassure the markets that the main actors, the banks that are too big to fail, will not fail, that they will in fact be bailed out the same way as Northern Rock was bailed out even if that means wiping out the shareholders or greatly reducing their benefits."

Soros was referring to the September 2007 Bank of England bailout of Northern Rock, England's biggest mortgage lender. The government issued a £25-billion loan to Northern Rock and recently announced it would convert the loan into bonds and sell to private investors.

Soros's comments prompted shock from Bartiromo who said, "Wow, that bailout sounds aggressive."


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Could we wipe out Soro's

Could we wipe out Soro's fortune first?  Then , if we need more, we could "move on" to other investors.....

 

I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. - J.B. Books (John Wayne)

Isn't that quaint.

Soros wants the government to guarentee (after the fact) the bad risks that the big financial institutions have incurred. Including him. In effect, Soros is asking the government to be the the co-signer for the largest investors in the markets.

He made his billions by taking risks, now he wants the government to indemnify him so he won't have any more risks or losses.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

What a Nazi

Sounds like state owned, state controlled ... and to think Soros lived under Hitler's brutal regime.

 

Yeah, state-owned and

Yeah, state-owned and state-controlled, as long as it's owned and controlled by Soros and people like-minded with Soros.  Cough, cough....Hillary (I'm going to take those profits) Clinton. 

Isn't the government to

Isn't the government to blame for the current housing crisis? Did they not push for the ability of high-risk, low-income people to get loans they ordinarily would have (and should have) never gotten?

 

Such a pessimist

trying to blame the govenment for "our" mistakes! And besides, what with the demolibs running things, everything is honky dorey! Look at all the GOOD things they've done for us . . . ok, ok, give me a minute to remember what it is that the demolibs tell us they've done, ahhh, y'all have to help me here, I'm drawing a blank - anyone?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Roger - right you are...

Just a week back, on Jan. 16, Charles Gasparino, a member of the CNBC business team, was on Tucker, and he brought up this point. In fact he suggested that the roots of this pressure from government (count the MSM in on it as well) to make loans more readily available to lower income and minority home buyers, who never could afford to join in the party before, came more from the Clinton administration than the Bush administration. That should not be a surprise.

Surely someone out there has written intelligently on this sometime here recently?? So far all we get from the Democrats and the MSM is blaming it all on Bush.

Secondly, this housing crisis (think bubble again) even amongst the progressive socialist left, has it's roots in the Clinton era (sure, Krugman's going to go out and push that back to the Reagan years of "change").

Dean Baker, Bursting Bubbles, said this back in May of 2003 (my bold):

.. given the loss of more than $8 trillion in paper wealth in the stock market. Consumption has stayed strong in the post-crash world because of a second asset bubble. As was the case in Japan in the ’80s, the stock market bubble of the late ’90s was accompanied by a housing bubble. The rise in home prices since 1995 has outpaced the overall rate of inflation by more than 30 percentage points. This sort of run-up in home prices has no precedent in the post-war era. The surge in home prices has created more than $3 trillion in new housing wealth, as compared to a situation in which home prices had just kept pace with inflation.

Like stock wealth, housing wealth also spurs consumption. Families see the rising value of their homes as a source of wealth that they can draw upon to meet their needs. They have been drawing on this wealth with a vengeance in the past two years, as plunging interest rates have led to an unprecedented surge in mortgage borrowing. As a result, the ratio of mortgage debt to home equity is at near-record highs.

This situation is frightening for two reasons. First, as a short-run matter, if housing prices fall sharply in some of the areas where the effects of the bubble are largest (for example the Boston, New York, Washington, and San Francisco areas), new home buyers (and those who recently refinanced their mortgages and took money out) could find they have negative equity in their homes. If someone borrows $270,000 to buy a $300,000 home, and the price falls by one-third, this leaves them owing $70,000 more than the home is worth. When this happens, there is a huge incentive to just let the mortgage holder foreclose on the home. If this were to happen on a large scale, the survival of many banks and financial institutions would be at risk.

[..]

.. The bubble will persist as long as people expect home prices to rise. When they lose this expectation, housing prices will fall back to more normal levels.

The ’90s stock bubble is also partially responsible for other recent problems. One is the switch from surpluses to deficits at both the federal and state levels. The federal government collected almost $120 billion in capital gains tax revenue at the peak of the stock bubble in 2000, most of which came from gains on stock sales. When stock prices plunged, capital gains revenue did also. It is now projected at $51 billion in 2003. Many states, especially California, were similarly affected by the stock crash.

Catch that?? what caused the shift from surplus to deficits.

The wave of corporate accounting scandals was also an outgrowth of the bubble. In an era in which corporations were routinely putting out profit projections that defied common sense, it was virtually inevitable that some executives would take the additional step to outright fraud. This was entirely predictable, since every prior speculative bubble has also been accompanied by large-scale financial fraud...

Ah, a liberal who had something constructive to say about the Clinton era -- and his friends in the MSM ignored him -- looking to blame all on Bush.

GH - it is the liberal way

take the easy way - and blame others for your own troubles. Never look to personal responsibility, that would be too hard.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Thx for the info, Gary. As

Thx for the info, Gary. As usual, your posts are illuminating.

 

Soros

Soros already has his fortune. The hell with anybody else.

I Agree

What a great idea...for him. His wealth will continue to grow while the rest of us won't. 

 

This guy is a scumbag.

George Soros is a shady

George Soros is a shady fraud and terrorist who carries far too much influence over world affairs...not to mention U.S. affairs.  This fugitive scumbag crook needs to be cut off at the knees.  Now.

Misleading Headline

Nathan Burchfiel - I don't know if you write your own headlines, but that's not really what the article says.

Yes, George Soros is politically repulsive. 

However, what he says is that great international money center banks - like CitiBank - cannot be allowed to fail.  He says that governments must step in with massive loans to keep them afloat, and that investors who own stock in those banks will have to surrender some or all of their stock to the government in exchange for those loans.

When you consider the consequences of a great bank collapsing, this is really not a radical or a terribly bad idea.   

It's government that created

It's government that created this mess.  Government is hardly fit to solve it.  So you deal with the banks the way the government has dealt with Detroit or the airline industry?  Is Ford any better off now?  You can't protect people or businesses from themselves...if they're destined to fail by being run poorly, we shouldn't subsidize them to continue the mismanagement...delaying the inevitable.  George Soros is more than politically repulsive...he is a fugitive criminal using his ill-gotten gains to exert his influence on a country he has no affection for.

Back to Switzerland for soros....(or where ever)

and what was it? Cut off at the knees? yeah that'll do it.

Except for one thng...

That is precisely what the Federal Reserve was created for. All National Banks MUST be members of the Federal Reserve and depost a certain % of their reserves for that membership. The Federal Reserve is the safety mechanism for the major banks.

Look up the Federal Reserve Act.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

And I thoght the left didn't have a sense of humor!

Does anybody seriously believe, especially after the last few congressional sessions that the federal government is a better steward of our economy than the private sector? If so I've got some options on a bridge for sale which I'll let go for a reasonable price. High spending politicians and guaranteed pension civil servants all controlling the economy with the aid of George Soros  is a guarantee that our children will live in poverty.

Of course Soros wants government control over the markets

Because he has more power and influence over the government than he does over the markets.  That's like asking a kid if he wants ice cream. 

In other news, the sky is blue, water is wet, and Keith Olbermann is really a real journalist.  (He told me he was.)

That is called communism

This is beyond fascism as Hitler allowed and supported corporate ownership which meant shareholders profits.

This is communism and it is past time this shill for Putin in international Bolshevism is charged for his crimes against humanity.

 

 

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Is Soros causing the meltdown to get DIM in Presidency?

Is George Soros causing the meltdown in the markets to get DIM in White House.  This interview and this article: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/24f73610-c91e-11dc-9807-000077b07658.html make it appear that he wants doom & gloom to be smeared all over the MSM.  As someone said earlier today, "IT'S THE ECOMONY STUPID" that got the last DIM elected(BJC) in 92!

George Soros

If he is, we're screwed.  Who can stop him?  It isn't as if Bush(43) would let DOJ investigate. He's too busy "being nice".

 

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Soros accounts not in markets, they're laundered offshore!

Betcha Mr Georgie has accounts laundered offshore, probably owns gold and selling it now high.  Nothing this man does or would do surprises me!

Soros comments lend credence

Soros comments lend credence to my conspiracy theory of the week: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nathan-burchfiel/2008/01/23/couric-praises-media-predicting-recession  It's becoming clear that it was George Soros who manipulated the foreign markets in an attempt to sway the US POTUS election.  Soros here is playing coy by calling for government oversight in order to distract attention from his activities.  The SEC needs to investigate this guy for manipulating the market. He didn't make his billions by being innocent, given that he is into front companies and organizations doing his bidding, the SEC needs to check who shorted the markets and made gobs of money off the two day debacle.    

 

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.

It is past time Soros was arrested and deported to Europe.

I believe there are several governments over there that would like to talk to this man.

Starting with the French.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

I was reading his words when...

I started hearing "The Three Stooges" theme song playing in my head.

Wow... If he weren't so damn dangerous he'd be a crack up.

Happy Trails...

In the case of the gold "market"

Soros is calling for what we've already-got, and George of all people knows it.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. (All purpose anti-slander-link, sadly-needed these days...)

Wipe Out Shareholders

Good idea, George.  Let's start with wiping out your investments.