NY Times Can Keep A Secret After All

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By now, you may have actually believed the typical NY Times line that they have to disclose everything, secret prisons, NSA tactics, interrogation tactics, because the public has the right to know everything and information has to be free, despite the risks it puts on our military or citizens.

What you probably didn't know is that David Rohde, a NY Times reporter, had been held by kidnappers in Kabul for the last seven months. Fortunately he was able to escape. Bill Keller wrote in a memo today "the consensus of experts we consulted -- and the judgment of the family -- was that a storm of publicity would at best prolong David's captivity by increasing his apparent value, and could well put him in imminent danger." Somehow I think that's a lesson that will be forgotten as soon as someone in a uniform faces the same fate. The Times withheld this information along with at least 40 other news outlets. No, the media never conspires together in the dark.

Keller continues: "I expect we will be besieged by understandable questions about who did what to make this happen. I hope that if any of you are probed on the subject you'll keep in mind that anything we say about our efforts to get David out -- whether authoritative or speculative -- risks becoming part of the playbook for future kidnappers." You've already given the terrorists every other playbook we have, Bill, why prude up now? Was the decision to keep quiet the right one? Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. But how do the rest of us get the same treatment as journalists?


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I'm not against the premise

I'm not against the premise of the NYT supporting one of their own- but it says a lot that they don't consider America's finest to be soldiers and Marines on the battlefield; rather the journalists embedded with them.

That was my thought

That was my thought exactly...they can shut up when it's one of their own they might jeopardize.

Shows you what they think of everyone else and the country in general.

They are pathetic.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Well now...isn't this just

Well now...isn't this just special.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Freed reporter

AP story on this. Guess I could make a wise crack, but I will refrain.

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

Saw that too D

Isn't it interesting that this guy's driver stayed and plans to join the Taliban? Next we'll see a host of NYT articles about how the US Military is firebombing civillians, mostly women and children.

I commented earlier that the NYT only cares about their embedded reporters. Now I'm wondering just who this reported was actually embedded with...

What a Crock

 "We are very relieved that our New York Times colleague escaped safely, and this episode has ended happily," said AP Senior Managing Editor John Daniszewski. "It was an unusual and difficult news judgment to withhold reporting on his abduction, but our practice is to avoid transmitting stories if we believe they endanger someone's life."

What a crock!!

"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything."--Mark Twain

Call me a skeptic

I suspect however that if the reporter was from Fox News, or the Washington Times, that al New York Times would insist on the people's right to know.

→ Simple explanation

If the guy had gotten bumped off, they could revel in having known such "a brave and noble journalist" as this.

This is just the NYT proving any news that puts our enemies in a bad light is not fit to print.

Maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe they were hoping for an exclusive of the beheading.

Of Course They Kept Their Mouths Shut

It was to protect a journalist, not an American soldier.  The NY Times plays by their rules, and their rules only.  They can care less about the country and those that serve, unless of course it's about Obama.  I'll be shocked if Bill Keller appears on say O'Reilly for an 'interview' on this matter; it would be worth paying to see the unpatriotic ass squirm in his seat.  I'm happy for Mr. Rohde being free from his captives.   I'm sure there will be a lengthy piece in the Times on how well his captors treated him over the past seven months in comparison to how we treated the prisoners at Gitmo and Abu Ghrab, they're probably working on it this very day.  Let's see, the Times kept their mouths shut for 7 months when it suited them, but they wouldn't do the same for the country.  Yep; they can't go broke fast enough.

Bourbeu... ...and yet

Bourbeu...

...and yet people like these get Pulitzers....WaPo also comes to mind regarding their treason.

Nothing like the Enemy Within....24/7...at all costs.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

That first sentence was

That first sentence was money and they kept another secret for a while too, Jayson Blair.

 

When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!

NYTimes. CNN. Both can keep a secret. They do conspire!

NYTimes. CNN. Both can keep a secret. They do conspire! And they have plenty of friends.

This remindes me of an infamous op-ed in the NY Times back in April of 2003. Eason Jordan was the chief news executive at CNN. As soon as the US under President Bush had initially successfully caused the fall of the Hussein regime - a regime which had caused the deaths of over 2 million human beings in the 2 decades preceeding the invasion - the NY Times published this confession from Jordan:

The News We Keep to Ourselves

I felt awful having these stories bottled up inside me. Now that Saddam Hussein's regime is gone, I suspect we will hear many, many more gut-wrenching tales from Iraqis about the decades of torment. At last, these stories can be told freely.

That afternoon, I engaged Mr. Jordan in a unique e-mail exchange in which I challenged him to do just that: to lead CNN in producing specials to illustrate to the world what they had learned and kept hidden from all of us for those many years. His response was not to worry, all would be told, in due time.

Hmmph!

Although our national media spent the next many years more focused on doing their best to undermine the effort in Iraq, it was obvious that Eason Jordan's column had been read - as it popped up from time to time. Later on, of course, he would be forced to resign over disgraceful charges he made about our men and women in uniform. His true identity is no secret.

In an interesting twist to the comment I just made -  that his column of 2003 had made the  rounds - the selective reading, or is it memory, or is it what one [journalists) wants to see when one has an agenda - came to light when the LA Times published a piece by Ned Martel, in covering Jordan's resignation. He offerred up this piece of fiction:

"While at CNN, Jordan also had provoked many activists and critics in an April 2003 opinion piece in the New York Times. Jordan asserted that he sometimes could not allow his network to report all it had learned during the intense early days of combat in Iraq, for fear that releasing certain confidential information would put lives in jeopardy."

 No.. no..  no! That's not what Jordan wrote about in his op-ed. It was not about the US action in Iraq in early 2003, it was about the horrors of the Saddam Hussein regime. Surely the NY Times and CNN would not have hidden from their public any perceived horrors of war involving US troops in action.

The LA Times did issue the correction - a weak one, however.

(;~/ gary  

Keller has gall. His org

Keller has gall. His org hasn't extended the same courtesy to our servicemen or our national secrets.

A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.

RCfromSD - You said it ALL!!

A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.

If our narcisstic president isn't swatting flies (and asks to be sure it is 'recorded'), he's whining about how the ONE UNBIASED news outlet doesn't say nice things about him! 

I pray that God will help our country survive these next few years!

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise known as a RWRE!!   It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

What lesson has the NYT

What lesson has the NYT learned from this?   That having a double standard works for them.  And it's their job to pull everyone else's covers so no one else gets away with it.  If their lives were worth saving they would work for the Times.

(No subject)

mother

I was truly frosted when I heard this report...save the reporter, but the rest of us can be exposed or tossed to the media wolves as they deign.

Does Keller really understand?

After listening to Keller pontificate about why they exposed the secrets of our war on terror, putting the country in danger and putting our military in danger, and then we see the steps the Times was willing to take to protect one of their own.  Does Keller really understand how strange that all sounds to, what one would assume, are his fellow Americans?  Are we in this together?  Apparently, the NY Times in in a world of its own which may be why it's falling apart at the seams. 

Anyone want to bet how many secrets the Times can keep for Obama?  

Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.  

Ooooh, he escaped...I

Ooooh, he escaped...I thought the Taliban released him because they were inspired by Obummer's steadfastness in releasing their buds from Gitmo and His speech in Cairo, so they just were trying to be nice and conciliatory.

I feel so silly...

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

He didn't escape from the

He didn't escape from the Taliban. He was embeded with them. In the near future we are going to see endearing stories about the brave Taliban freedom fighters in the NYT.

On the money

As noted, the dude was writing a book. His 'kidnapping and escape' really fleshes out his perspective on the Taliban, having spent seven months really getting to understand them. It will help him get to the Times' bestseller list, and makes the movie rights worth millions.

I get it now.

  What we say and do and reveal will have an effect on our enemies.

  Like for example revealing pictures of naked terrorists, wrongly reporting we flushed a large book down a super toilet, wrongly reporting the number of civilians deaths in a bombing, electing candidates that tell us how wrong our war was, constantly showing idiots opposing the war, wrongly accusing marines of murder and revenge (haditha), or reporting our exact legal procedures for interrogating captured terrorists?

 Thank you New York Times for the timely lesson. 6 years in.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Secrets? We dont need to

Secrets? We dont need to stinking secrets!

Consequences be Da**ed!!!! we deserve to KNOW! We need to look into sueing the NYT for breaching their contract of public trust by withholding information from and misleading its readership. ......wait, this is nothing new you say?

Is it even true?

Since this story is coming out of the NY Times, I question whether it's even true?  They are so pathetic in trying to prop themselves up that it wouldn't surprise me that this is totally made up and the guy has been vacationing in Bali for the last 7 months, or doing whatever, then decides to fabricate some Rambo Super Hero story about himself.  Climbing over a wall of a Taliban stronghold doesn't sound realistic.  Why was he allowed to wander around?  Why wasn't he in restraints?  Why was he able to walk back from this stronghold without anybody catching him or even noticing that he was missing?  It sounds like the Taliban is either totally asleep here and they could care less who comes and goes in their territory, or something is missing from the story.

 As for the ability to keep a secret, I wonder if anybody even knew he was kidnapped?  If it never happened, it would explain why nobody mentioned it or made a big deal of it. Remember Pearl?  When a journalist gets into trouble, they all band together to an extreme extent that you'd think god himself was in trouble.  The only people that they truly care about are themselves. If one of them were kidnapped and held by the Taliban, I think it would have been front page news from the day it happened.

 Nothing about this story adds up and allot of it seems like a scam.

 

 

Just a Thought...

I heard Keller this morning on CNN talking about the co-operation he received from other media outlets. He said even the blogs out there went along! Then he stated he had talked to Al Jazeera, and they agreed. This brought a thought of mine to the front of my mind. Was this reporter kidnapped, or embedded? This IS the New York Times we're talking about. Wouldn't put it past them for one minute.

"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything."--Mark Twain

No ransom? I wonder...

My initial reaction was also an amazement at the NYT (along with the rest of the news media) for being able to keep such a secret. After years of screaming about the public's right to know trumping all else, we learn that when a journalist is in danger, the story becomes top secret and classified.

Upon reflection, I've been wondering about a different aspect of the story. When one combines the two facts that "no ransom was paid" and Rohde "escaped" by climbing over a compound wall and simply ran away, one wonders about these things.

Is the Taliban really so inept as to let a captured American escape like this? (Has this ever happened before?)

Does the NYT really have the backbone to resist paying ransom?

I'm not normally one to entertain conspiracy theories, but assuming that a ransom was paid, wouldn't the Times be too embarrassed to admit it and need a cover story...like "he bravely escaped his captors"?

Its too bad that there isn't a Freedom of Information Act that applies to news organizations where we could demand access to their documents in an attempt to know the truth. Unfortunately, the FFA is a one-way street that works in favor of journalists... journalists who feel they have the right to dispense what they learn as they see fit.

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