Within hours of CNN Newsroom anchor Rick Sanchez bemoaning a purported increase in the number of hate groups, CNN correspondent Kitty Pilgrim provided some much needed network balance by reporting - get ready here - facts. On Thursday's CNN Newsroom, Rick Sanchez asked a question and then, as usual, provided his own answer:
SANCHEZ: Since the administration of Barack Obama began in this country, has there been a heightened sense of any kind of hate? We first started discovering this last night in one of the interviews we did.But before we do that, I want to show you something now. I want you to just write down some numbers. These are hate groups in the United States, all right? Let's start with the first year. I think we're going to start with the year 2000 -- 602 hate groups at the time in the United States, as counted by the best resource on this, by the way, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Now let's go to 2007. Uh-oh. It's going up, 888. Now let's go to 2008. Uh-oh. Going up again, 926.
Minutes later, Sanchez interviewed Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center:
POTOK: Well, as you suggested in your intro, there have been quite a growth over the last eight years.Until about a year ago, that growth was driven almost entirely by these groups pushing the immigration issue and especially the idea that people with brown skin are kind of coming to destroy our country. In the last year, though, we have seen several other factors come into play, you know, the assent, obviously, of Barack Obama, the announcement by the Census Bureau that whites will lose their majority in this country along about the year 2042, and the crashing economy and worsening unemployment.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓All of those things are very much playing into the continued growth of these groups. Frankly, I think we're in a very worrying situation. I think it could get quite a bit worse.
SANCHEZ: Well, what I'm hearing you say is, remember the movie "The Perfect Storm," when everything kind of came together? And you just outlined the three things. You have got the economy. You have got the residue of the nativist rhetoric in this country, and you have Barack Obama, a liberal African-American president, as the leader of our country.
When you put all those three things together, what do you -- what do we have to do? We do we foresee down the line?
POTOK: Well, I think, just as you suggest, it is a kind of a perfect storm of factors that at the very least favors the growth of these groups.
Only a few hours later on Lou Dobbs Tonight, correspondent Kitty Pilgrim provided a different perspective:
KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The Southern Poverty Law Center says absolutely hate crime -- hate groups in America are growing. They say the debate over immigration, the recession and the election of Barack Obama, the first black president, is animating more hate groups. But the director of the Southern Poverty Law Center today admitted there are no data on the increased recruitment of hate groups.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MARK POTOK, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER: It is a kind of perfect storm of factors that at the very least favors the growth of these groups. You know, whether they are actually able to translate all of these things into recruitment, you know, we have yet to see.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PILGRIM: Now, we talked to the FBI today about the report. The FBI does not recognize the term "hate group." They told us they do not monitor individuals or groups of individuals based on what they think or they say, or because a group or individual espouses a cause. It's only when a line is crossed and when an act of violence is committed.
Now, by that measure, hate crimes are going down. The FBI uses data collected by state and local law-enforcement agencies, and this is what we've found. In 1995, hate crimes totaled 7,974. In 2007, 12 years later, they totaled 7,624. That's a decline of 4 percent.
Meanwhile, the U.S. population rose 16 percent in that period of time. So, hate crimes are definitely declining, according to the FBI. And it's interesting, Lou, what the Southern Poverty Law Center defines as a hate group. They say it's based on ideology. It's not based on action. If you're included in this group, it's not based on criminality or violence or future...
DOBBS: Define a hate group, according to them.
PILGRIM: They say it's any group that thinks less of some other group, that thinks that they're inferior. That's their broadest definition, based on ideology, and that's how they define it.
DOBBS: Well, you know, that would not be an appropriate (ph) way to look at any group. But at the same time, one wonders how Mark Potok, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center, could say that conditions favor the growth of hate groups, but they have no proof of recruitment. This is -- I mean, that's pretty pitiful, really. And I know a number of news organizations picking up and going with this, because they think it's a ratings-grabber.
PILGRIM: You really have to push this report to say, what are they really saying here. They're including nonviolent groups with violent groups. The definition is so utterly fuzzy on "hate group" that...
DOBBS: Which obviously the FBI, the Justice Department rejects.
PILGRIM: They absolutely do.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, cited by Sanchez as "the best resource on this," is itself an extremely liberal outfit. Typical is an article on its Website that warns "an array of right-wing foundations and think tanks support efforts to make bigoted and discredited ideas respectable." This dangerous array, we're told, includes the American Enterprise Institute, the Free Congress Foundation, the Ludwig von Mises Institute, the John M. Olin Foundation, and David Horowitz's Center for the Study of Popular Culture.
Rick Sanchez is a dependable liberal. He can find a reason to criticize America almost every day. By selectively airing viewer opinions that coincide with his own and repeatedly interviewing other liberals, his program is often flagrantly slanted.
Kudos to Kitty Pilgrim for, unlike Sanchez, getting past the ideological bluster and looking for the truth. Gee, I hope that doesn't hurt her career in journalism.
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I saw this show
February 27, 2009 - 17:16 ET by bigtimerI saw this show yesterday...Pilgrim did a great job...for a change.
I posted a bit back now that I was just waiting for the Southern Liberty Law Center to start roaring their lonely heads up again with the msm...and sure enough here they have come.
I despise this group and their leader from way back, can't think of his name at the top of my head, can see his face though, he was a regular favorite with his divide and conquer spin of the races if he and his group could do so on the networks for years...I just imagine their power, therefore their $$$ has dried up...
I knew when O got in, this group would seek to be heard and viable once again...
They are far left, and in my opinion, they are dangerous, their job is to intentionally cause hatred and division.
Hate groups, bigtimer
February 27, 2009 - 17:21 ET by Mike BatesThe SPLC says a hate group is "any group that thinks less of some other group."
So I guess the Democrat Party qualifies since members think less of the GOP. And vice versa.
Morris Dees, Julian Bond?
Mike... Thanks...Morris
February 27, 2009 - 17:39 ET by bigtimerMike...
Thanks...Morris Dees indeed! Oh I cringed and seethed when he would be on with his intentional racial divison BS, which CNN loved back then...(still do) as far as I am concerned.
Speaking of this, is anyone going to be glued to their sets tomorrow with the all day long 'State of the Black Union' on C-SPAN...fast talker Tavist Smiley started this...what if we had anything called The State if the White Union...hmmm?
Ten years they have been having the very people who despise the white race as far as I am concerned, the majority of them like Cornell West will be a featured guest I am sure once again...I quit listening to a few years back...I would not be surprised to see a representative from SPLC speaking either.
Btw...I wonder if this all day show is going to be blocking CPAC tomorrow on C-Span...especially when Rush is the finishing speaker, tomorrow is the biggest day for the event...oh well, it would figure.
Cornel West
February 27, 2009 - 17:42 ET by Mike Batescracks me up. It's just not what he says - which is hilariously absurd - but the way he says it. It's as though he's a parody of himself.
Mike... Exactly el
February 27, 2009 - 17:54 ET by bigtimerMike...
Exactly el correcto...but if you hear anything regarding him from the elite leftist loons, why he is the greatest speaker, wiser than all since Cracker Jacks...that is until O the Orator came orating along.
Is Al Qaeda on the list????
March 1, 2009 - 18:12 ET by bpjamDo you think the 'Southern Poverty Law Center' thinks Al Qaeda is a hate group? How about Moveon.org? DailyKos? AirAmerica?
Oh, of course not. The SPLC (basically, liberal jews who are on the lookout for American Nazis but would invite Joseph Stalin as a member since he's not a right-winger) has had a hard time getting any attention since the aryan-neonazi types have essentially become irrevelant and the militia groups were all disbanded by the FBI in the 90s. So now they are just taking the next logical step and branding anybody right-of-center as being part of the 'hate industry'.
Islamic Jihads kill more Jews than anybody else other than old age now. But the SPLC won't even glance to its left to acknowledge it. It is still filled with liberal jews but the money is in demagoguing for black and hispanics so they've evolved.
(btw, I'm jewish so I can mock them all I want and not be an anti-semite. And since they are self-hating jews, I can mock them without even having to apologize to G-d)
Yes bt and Michael
February 27, 2009 - 18:28 ET by DEVILDOCMOMwouldn't all of the bho media be included in this also...I continually hear my beliefs denigrated and I, and others who believe as I do, are called names in the media because of what we stand for...sometimes I do not recognize myself when I hear what the media says.
Hi DDM... You hit the
February 27, 2009 - 18:44 ET by bigtimerHi DDM...
You hit the nail right on the head...and you are not alone out there!
only white hate groups?
February 28, 2009 - 08:32 ET by dronetekWhat I want to know is, why we only ever hear abotu the white hate groups? Its as if CNN wants to scaremonger white people. While never mentioning the black or hyspanic hate groups that exsist all over te country.
Setting the stage..
February 28, 2009 - 08:40 ET by Sergeant ROCKObviously, the MSM is providing cover for the community organizer's plans for another Waco or Ruby Ridge. If they can get people's hands to wringing with fear over this largely imaginary enemy, then the follow-on story will be 'when will the Obama administration address this crisis?'.. Watch and see.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
"Obama is a radical communist, and I think it is becoming clear." - Alan Keyes
Speaking of hate Michael
February 27, 2009 - 17:21 ET by acumenDo you find that the peace-loving leftists have been sending you more or less hate mail since the chosen one came bearing change?
Hate mail , acumen
February 27, 2009 - 17:24 ET by Mike BatesDo you find that the peace-loving leftists have been sending you more or less hate mail since the chosen one came bearing change?
About the same, although the number of Valentines I got was markedly down. And I blame The One. Of course, I blame him for everything.
Sanchez - slow at the gun again - and running the wrong way
February 27, 2009 - 17:26 ET by Gary HallYou bet there has; an out and out verbal war of smear and attacks, by national mainstream journalists and left wing groups, against a small and peaceful gang of voices: Rush, Hannity, Fox, Coulter, O'Reilly, Lowery, as well as against the views of about one-half of the voters., etc.
Well, you're just out of touch - blind to be exact. We started noticing it when it began - because it was loud and vile.
Sanchez running the wrong way, Gary
February 27, 2009 - 17:31 ET by Mike BatesWhen he said that, Gary, I sent him a tweet suggesting he cover folks who wear "I voted for the black half" t-shirts because of the shirt's divisiveness. Amazingly, he didn't use the idea.
Exactly.........
February 27, 2009 - 17:35 ET by zoro7957..................how many people comprise a "group"? More than two, three..?
Define a group
February 27, 2009 - 17:43 ET by Mike BatesWhenever two or more are gathered in His (Obama's) name.
The truly amazing thing...
February 27, 2009 - 17:46 ET by PA Conservative...about Sanchez's bloviating is that he actually admitted that Obama is liberal. Did anyone catch that? It might be the first time anyone at CNN, intentionally or unintentionally, has admitted the Messiah is liberal. Sanchez is a race baiting disgrace. Typical of most libs.
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That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new government...
Sanchez's bloviating
February 27, 2009 - 17:51 ET by Mike Bates...about Sanchez's bloviating is that he actually admitted that Obama is liberal.
To Ricky, that's a compliment.
Surfin around on the SPLC site i caught this...
February 27, 2009 - 17:49 ET by upcountrywaterOnly white guys are haters
Oh yea beheader Muzzammil Hassan did not come up on the site search... and CAIR...... Nothing
Again EVERY photo I saw on that site were WHITE GUYS.
pURPLe pINKy
Just a coincidence, upcountrywater
February 27, 2009 - 17:53 ET by Mike BatesYour link had a line I liked a lot:
No one was injured in the blaze, though Stone almost set himself on fire.
Like CNN, the SPLC has no
February 27, 2009 - 18:15 ET by SlicksterLike CNN, the SPLC has no credibility. They are driven by a lefist agenda
Morris Dees
February 27, 2009 - 20:05 ET by ricklailMorris Dees of the SPLC has been proven to be a liar, making up a lot this crap as he goes along. I'll never forget after the OKC bombing how he spouted figures about militias which was mostly fabricated. I think that the SPLC will be one of the groups that will get our tax money from the porkulsu bill. Anyway, I don't believe a thing they put out.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. RWR
rickl... Ditto.
February 27, 2009 - 20:07 ET by bigtimerrickl...
Ditto.
The biggest hate group is
February 27, 2009 - 18:19 ET by Mr. Mikethe Democrat Party. They hate anyone that disagrees with their lefty agenda. And it's a rabid, sick hate that is allowed by the MSM to fester like a wound and boil like an unwatched pot. This breeds division to the point of civil unrest.
illegal immigration
February 27, 2009 - 18:20 ET by soosanI hate illegal immigration, not the immigrants. Do I still qualify as a hate group?
So if
February 27, 2009 - 19:10 ET by RD KingI understand what I just read the hate groups that are growing in this country are people of color mixed in with illegal immigrants that hate whitey and America and anything to do with American morals and ethics such as love of God, Family and Country and osama obama has exacerbated this problem. Please let me know if I am wrong but I believe that I have witnessed this same problem going on in my country for the last 49 + years.
RD King... In my 53+
February 27, 2009 - 19:33 ET by bigtimerRD King...
In my 53+ years you are not wrong...
...and it has been going on tiresomely so, with a vengeance for at least the last twenty five or more....
....ahhh...but their is always a method to the madness game....the name of the game is titled AGENDA....and they are winning.
Saul Alinsky is proud.
I'm wondering if and when
February 27, 2009 - 19:52 ET by RR GOPI'm wondering if and when groups like the Patriot Riders for instance are painted by the MSM and the Feds as 'racist hate groups' that need to be taken down. By 'for instance' I mean any organized patriotic, conservative organization that stands up against the Communists and their Liberal sycophants.
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
"SANCHEZ: Since the
February 27, 2009 - 19:52 ET by Jerry"SANCHEZ: Since the administration of Barack Obama began in this country, has there been a heightened sense of any kind of hate?"
Where the heck has Sanchez been for the LAST EIGHT YEARS?
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Where has Sanchez been for the LAST EIGHT YEARS?
February 28, 2009 - 12:13 ET by Mike BatesMake up?
No kidding...
March 1, 2009 - 10:50 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. Bush Derangement Syndrome is REAL. Of course, left untreated you remain oblivious to your own hypocrisy!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
SPLC multicounts the groups, too...
February 27, 2009 - 20:15 ET by ObeliskToucherWhen you look at the details behind their hate group map, it's pretty clear how they increase their numbers. For example, look at Black Separatist hate groups -- I'll give them kudos for listing Nation of Islam as a hate group, but there's no good reason for including them 60 times! NY has 3 chapters in the list, MN has none, and Florida has 5.
Minority Street Gangs?
February 27, 2009 - 20:44 ET by sentry_99I didn't get a chance to look at the SPLC site but does anyone know if they count violent criminal street gangs. By their definition, they would qualify as hate groups. I've dealt with many "gangstas" and they are just as racist as any skinhead.
I love it how you can hate
February 27, 2009 - 23:07 ET by mostlymoderateI love it how you can hate catholics, Christians, Jews, white people, white collar workers, Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, Dick Cheney, America et. Al.; however, everything else is considered a "hate" group. The ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the ADL and La Raza are ALL hate groups. Strange how they are always calling other people the "haters" when they "hate" democracy so vehemently.
mm... But those other
February 28, 2009 - 01:13 ET by Clear thinkermm...
But those other groups are so modern and with-it.
Conservative groups are looked down upon because we still love family, children, God, Country, freedom, hunting, etc, etc. If we wanted to be popular all we would have to do is have sex with our Mother-in-laws and daughters at the same time. Perform oral sex on the illegals living in the house next door while reading the Bible. Kill every cow we run across whenever it burps because we know they are killing the earth. Embrace dictators, murderers and rapists. Send all Jews from Israel to Iran and let Hamas take over the left behind progress of the Israeli's. Burn all crosses and pictures of Jesus. Force our legislature to legalize all drugs. Make the government pay for our homes, TV's, education, health care, food, nail polish, tattoos, lawn care, and of course... we all need an illegal house keeper/cook/babysitter/part-time whore... I could go on but it would take all night.
Bottom line is.... those that still believe in self reliance and responsibility are old fashioned and should be shot upon site.
Any questions?
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self reliance and responsibility, Clear thinker
February 28, 2009 - 12:16 ET by Mike BatesIn the Age of Obama - where Big Bro takes care of everything - such loose talk could get you a one way ticket to a BO re-education camp.
I want to start my own hate group.
February 28, 2009 - 00:58 ET by Redrowan2000I want to start my own hate group.
Lets see who to start with ahh yes Rick Sanchez, for impersonating a journalist, his employer for impersonating a news station and oh yes near treason, anybody else?--Olberman, Matthews, Murtha, Durbin? and MSNBC, not to mention the I hate America Hollywood crowd for killing movies as entertainment and instead want boys and girls, err I mean boys to love each other or be loved by older men.......................or hate their country, and the New York Times. The only good thing is no one watches their crappy movies , listens to them on the radio and hopefully someone will be throwing dirt on the Times shortly. If the Mexican bailout doesn't work. OH AND BY THE WAY CHECK OUT SMOKING GUN!!
Ex-NPR Editor In Child Porn Bust
Second time this month a D.C. media figure is nabbed on federal rap
FEBRUARY 26--For the second time this month, a Washington, D.C. media figure has been charged with possession of child pornography. David Malakoff, who until recently worked as National Public Radio's science editor and an on-air correspondent, was named in a felony criminal information filed Tuesday. The information, a copy of which you'll find below, offers few details about the 46-year-old Malakoff's alleged criminal activity, except to note that he possessed the illicit material between April and June 2008 (Malakoff resigned from his job last June, according to NPR spokesperson Anna Christopher). The Department of Justice's filing of an information--as opposed to a criminal complaint or indictment--often indicates that a defendant has agreed to plead guilty to charges. Malakoff, an Alexandria, Virginia resident, worked from NPR's Washington headquarters. The felony charge against him was filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, possibly indicating that the child porn was recovered from his NPR office, and not his home, which is in a different judicial district. Malakoff's lawyer, Danny Onorato, declined to discuss details of the case. Malakoff did not return a message sent to him via his Facebook account.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
If you want your quote in latin
February 28, 2009 - 02:45 ET by richb313Just an aside, "Don't let the Bastards Grind you Down" was our motto when I served on the USSN Tunny SSN 682 a Nuclear Fast Attack Submarine in the 70's. The latin for it is "Illegitimi Non-Carborundum". I did not know if you knew this.
Hi
February 28, 2009 - 06:35 ET by jackssnFrom one who served 21 yeas in Fast Attack Sub I always thought that was a good quote.
Yea Fast Attacks
February 28, 2009 - 07:44 ET by richb313All right, another fellow Submariner, I was a sonarman what did you do? Loved Fast Attacks. Real Subs doing real jobs. Was in Uncle Sams Canoe Club from 73 to 79, not the best years to be in the Navy. Ford and Jimmy Carter as Presidents. Several of my Crewmates had served with the Peanut Farmer. Can't tell you thier opinion of him though as it would not be fitting to use that kind of language on this forum.
Bastards
February 28, 2009 - 19:01 ET by Redrowan2000I knew the Latin, just didn't know you submariners used it.
"Illegitimi Non-Carborundum".
Thanks for serving and thanks for the advice.
Red
Starting your own hate group
February 28, 2009 - 12:19 ET by Mike BatesI want to start my own hate group.
Why not wait a few months and see if there isn't a government program to help you get started? There seems to be (tax) money for everything else.
Remember Holder is Now in Charge of the Justice Dept.
February 28, 2009 - 02:39 ET by richb313Remember folks that Holder is now in charge of the Justice Dept. That means that the entire FBI works for him. He has the ability to change what the FBI considers as a hate group. This very site and its contributers could come under FBI survellance. I am not saying it will or is likely to happen but it is possible. His speech and his very flexible ethics are a bit worrisome. I have never been one to forment fear or to condone fearmongers, however I will say I have never been as uneasy as I have been in the last month. Pay very close attention to what this administration does. I do not trust them. I knew that I would not agree with Obama as I did not agree with Clinton but boy I would sure prefer the old girl chasing Clinton in office to Obama right now.
FBI surveillance
February 28, 2009 - 12:25 ET by Mike BatesThis very site and its contributors could come under FBI surveillance.
They could probably save paying those GS-13 special agents by just having a lower level clerk Google everyone.
The Southern Poverty Law
February 28, 2009 - 05:14 ET by ChattychitoThe Southern Poverty Law Center, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, Hollywood Actors Guild, White house staff, Democratic Convention, ACORN, Andenburg Group, Black Panthers, Black Moselms, the IRS aand the KKK (democrats)are all hate groups
"A man who doesn't borrow from the brains of others proves he has no brains of his own." CH Spurgeon
All I know
February 28, 2009 - 08:33 ET by jed58All I know is Kitty is hot. Am 50, never married and looking for a woman a lot like her
All I know
February 28, 2009 - 08:33 ET by jed58All I know is Kitty is hot. Am 50, never married and looking for a woman a lot like her
Kitty is hot
February 28, 2009 - 12:27 ET by Mike BatesAll I know is Kitty is hot. Am 50, never married and looking for a woman a lot like her
Next time she calls, I'll let her know. :)
The Southern Povery Law Center -is- a hate group.
February 28, 2009 - 09:29 ET by RiiightSeriously.
The anti-semitic, Christophobic hate they spew is legendary.
This is just tiresome...
February 28, 2009 - 11:34 ET by taocpaI worked for one of the organizations listed as a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center. If they truly were, I never would have set foot in the door. It's preposterous.
I like Kitty Pilgrim because she's fairly level-headed. It's silly that CNN has this Sanchez guy on. I also saw an extremely one-sided interview yesterday from CPAC attacking conservatives on CNN. I wasn't surprised in the least. It's the usual joke: Conservatives bad, liberals good.
Tom
This is just tiresome...
February 28, 2009 - 11:46 ET by taocpaI worked for one of the organizations listed as a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center. If they truly were, I never would have set foot in the door. It's preposterous.
I like Kitty Pilgrim because she's fairly level-headed. It's silly that CNN has this Sanchez guy on. I also saw an extremely one-sided interview yesterday from CPAC attacking conservatives on CNN. I wasn't surprised in the least. It's the usual joke: Conservatives bad, liberals good.
Tom
Conservatives bad, liberals good
February 28, 2009 - 12:28 ET by Mike BatesIt's the usual joke: Conservatives bad, liberals good.
From "the most trusted name in news," that's all we need to know.
Hating Hate Groups
February 28, 2009 - 12:00 ET by ur-conIs the SPLC including in their numbers Hate Groups that hate Hate Groups?
hate groups hating hate groups
February 28, 2009 - 12:33 ET by Mike BatesIs the SPLC including in their numbers Hate Groups that hate Hate Groups?
My guess: Like most libs, they view their own hate as righteous anger and their efforts as altruistically trying to save those not blessed with the purity they so selflessly maintain.
Impressed
February 28, 2009 - 12:46 ET by bknownstI am really impressed that a liberal would point out the existence of all those liberal groups of haters that thrive in this country. Honesty from the left. Who would have thought it?
I just read....
February 28, 2009 - 17:41 ET by taocpaFirst, sorry about the double post.
But, I just read Dees comments about my former place of employment. He picks on a few people there, but one in particular he picks on was one of the nicest people and an ardent freedom fighter back in the day. I talked with him about someone I also knew and that individual told me he was a good man. Dees cronies are going on no facts whatsoever. Just rumour and innuendo. When you know someone personally you have a different perspective.
I had a client once in who lived in occupied Europe during WWII. He confronted a Nazi soldier. Does that make him a Nazi? According to Dees, it probably would. What a joke.
I can't stand the hypocrisy of the left.
Tom
More Hate?
March 1, 2009 - 09:13 ET by DerRickMy hypothesis about the growth of hate groups over recent years is this: the Left felt so upset over the Bush successes that it led to more hate. After all, wasn't most of the hate speech coming from the Left? Now that the Left is in control, I'd expect less hate. At least, until the Left becomes discontent again, which I expect will happen as the Recession continues to drag on.