
Today on The Washington Post's front page appears the article "Back Home in Alaska, Palin Finds Cold Comfort: Scrutiny Has Been Intense Since Election." Staff writer Michael Leahy reports that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has had a rocky return following her run on last year's Republican national ticket. Writes Leahy:
A number of factors seem to have contributed to the bumpy homecoming: a residual anger among Democrats for the attack-dog role Palin assumed in the McCain campaign, lingering resentment from Republicans for the part she may have played in McCain's defeat, and a suspicion crossing party lines that the concerns of Alaska, at a time of economic crisis, will now be secondary to her future in national politics.
The claim that Sarah Palin hurt McCain's candidacy has been refuted by various sources including, coincidentally enough, The Washington Post. Chris Cillizza covers the White House for the newspaper. Shortly after the election he cited five election myths. One of them was that McCain made a mistake by selecting Palin as his running mate:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Remember where McCain found himself this past summer. He had won the Republican nomination, but the GOP base clearly felt little buy-in into his campaign. A slew of national polls reflected that energy gap, with Democrats revved up about the election and their candidate and Republicans somewhere between tepid and glum.
Enter Palin, who was embraced with a bear hug by the party's conservative base. All of a sudden, cultural conservatives were thrilled at the chance to put "one of their own" in the White House. In fact, of the 60 percent of voters who told exit pollsters that McCain's choice of Palin was a "factor" in their final decision, the Arizona senator won 56 percent to 43 percent.
For skittish conservatives looking for more evidence that McCain understood their needs and concerns, Palin did the trick. It's hard to imagine conservatives rallying to McCain -- even to the relatively limited extent that they did -- without Palin on the ticket. And without the base, McCain's loss could have been far worse.
A Rasmussen Reports national survey taken immediately after the election found that 69 percent of Republicans believed Palin helped McCain and 91 percent held a favorable view of the Alaska governor.
Perhaps the Post article, using multiple anonymous sources to buttress its findings, is right in the assessment of difficulties Sarah Palin now encounters back home. The belief she hurt McCain's chances for the White House, however, doesn't appear to be held by very many Republicans. So why would lingering resentment be a significant factor?




















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dead wrong
February 18, 2009 - 11:50 ET by sawing batta180 degrees off the mark...congrats to the WaPo.
either they are terrible reporters or actively crafting the news to fit their desired outcome - either way a shame on the WaPo.
either they are terrible
February 18, 2009 - 11:52 ET by Mike Bateseither they are terrible reporters or actively crafting the news to fit their desired outcome
And getting an early advocacy start for 2012.
Does it have to be
February 18, 2009 - 11:56 ET by sherylsimsDoes it have to be either/or?
not the news
February 18, 2009 - 12:25 ET by m1xramWhen you are just writing a propaganda piece you don't need reporters at all. So, it's probably not "either/or", they are really focused on the "desired outcome".
McCain was thoroughly Capable of Losing without Palin's Help
February 18, 2009 - 12:16 ET by allanfMcCain was thoroughly Capable of Losing without Palin's help and that is what he did. When you (a) don't tell people why they should vote for you and (b) won't criticize your opponent in a meaningful way, you lose.
John ran an honorable campaign that showed he was more concerned about criticism than winning. It was his choice.
A respectful campaign
February 18, 2009 - 12:18 ET by Mike BatesMcCain respectfully campaigned himself out of the White House.
Actually the negative press
February 18, 2009 - 13:04 ET by kgActually the negative press had much more effect on McCain's downfall than even McCain himself. Palin was not a real factor. She did, however, greatly increase his chances.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
kg... Exactly
February 18, 2009 - 13:15 ET by bigtimerkg...
Exactly right.
The vote for the bail-out bill was the last straw.
Of course throwing conservatives under the bus along the way, his words during the Town Hall meetings, one example illegal immigration/amnesty...infuriated people.
I'm going to run a respectful campaign my friends, my fellow foot-soldiers.
I wonder if he even gets it to this day. Now he is just making sure to run with all he can to be reelected in AZ. in 10.
You are correct. In the
February 18, 2009 - 14:39 ET by BDYou are correct. In the past few weeks I have noticed an interesting trend in bumper stickers here in Southern Arizona. That being bumper stickers that look somewhat like this:
mcain/PALIN
I have no idea who is producing them or where you get them, but they kind of tell you the level of popularity of Johnny in his home state.
BD... Now that does bring
February 18, 2009 - 19:45 ET by bigtimerBD...
Now that does bring a great big smile to my face.
Last night while driving
February 20, 2009 - 08:56 ET by BDLast night while driving home I noticed a guy standing on a street corner here with a sign that said "Send McCain south of the border".
I pondered that one for a bit....
WaPo better watch what it
February 18, 2009 - 11:54 ET by HockeyKidWaPo better watch what it says about America's hockey mom. Them's fightin' words--and hockey players know how to fight!
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Why does the press do this?
February 18, 2009 - 11:55 ET by legacyrepublicanThe media is arguing that Obama won because McCain made a bad choice for veep.
As they argue the point again and again, it becomes apparent they are deeply afraid the country will turn on Obama because McCain didn't really test him and he was a weak candidate.
Of course, they helped because they did not test him either.
Hmmm, think there will be buyer's remorse in the future? I hope so.
buyer's remorse
February 18, 2009 - 11:58 ET by Mike BatesHmmm, think there will be buyer's remorse in the future? I hope so.
I do, too. But so far, at least among the Obama-voting relatives and friends to whom I still speak, there's a calm optimism that The One will take care of everything.
repeat repeat
February 18, 2009 - 12:30 ET by m1xramIf you repeat a lie often enough some people start beliving it.
Well the lie that's being repeated is...
February 18, 2009 - 15:47 ET by Lord Erond...that stupid nonsensical viewpoint how Governor Palin doesn't read articles etc. etc. The stupid ass Katie 'kommunist' Kouric interview seems to have cemented this firmly in the liberal mind. Does any libtard out there understand what it takes to run a state? I mean, I know that Alaska doesn't have a ton of people but there is an executive experience that comes with running a state that Obama sure as hell didn't have. Yet these libs constantly cry about how Palin's an idiot, she doesn't get it blah blah blah....It's boring. They don't have the slightest clue about who she is and yet there they are spewing opinions about her intelligence that they have no idea about.
It's kind of like those dolts who thought they knew what was going on in Iraq on the basis of the NY Times op/ed page when it was Bush receiving daily security briefings about what ACTUALLY was going on over there.
If I were President, I'd make my distaste for the media plainly apparent because they are going to pillory you anyway. Might as well make the punishment fit the crime. I'd start by putting that fossil Helen Thomas in the service closet out in the hall and that all left wing orgs would get one question every year and that's it.
"What you can not enforce, do not command" -Sophocles-
NYT price
February 18, 2009 - 17:16 ET by m1xramCheck out misflame98, you'll get a kick out of the link there.
bad choice for veep
February 18, 2009 - 13:47 ET by SickofLibsAnd every time I see that smirking moron Plugs standing there behind Obama when he's speaking (which seem like every time I turn on the TV) I am reminded of that a-heartbeat-away thing.
Me to SOL
February 18, 2009 - 15:58 ET by general companyBut my nightmare continues, any heart that stops in that chain of command is scarier then the one before it.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
that's it, GC
February 18, 2009 - 16:20 ET by SickofLibsIt's like a really bad 50's monster movie - the next one that rises up is even worse than the one you just destroyed.
What in the Heck???
February 18, 2009 - 11:56 ET by DoktorFranken''A number of factors seem to have contributed to the bumpy homecoming: a residual anger among Democrats for the attack-dog role Palin assumed in the McCain campaign, lingering resentment from Republicans for the part she may have played in McCain's defeat, and a suspicion crossing party lines that the concerns of Alaska, at a time of economic crisis, will now be secondary to her future in national politics.''
The MSM is surely in the Bizarro world if any of them truly believe this load of crap. Most Conservatives were holding their noses to vote for McCain until Gov. Palin was selected as VP. Sarah is the reason I voted Republican.
Remember, expect negative Palin news items twice every day until she's elected in 2012.
What the Heck?
February 18, 2009 - 11:59 ET by Mike BatesSarah is the reason I voted Republican.
That's close to being true for me. It was a lot easier voting for McC with her on the ticket.
Actually,
February 18, 2009 - 12:37 ET by UpNorthI resent McC for losing an election he could have won. And for being a RINO, and for being "collegial". I could go on, but my time is valuable to me.
I also resent
February 18, 2009 - 16:01 ET by general companyMcCain for loosing, he had many oppertunities to grab the bull by the horns, but neglected to do so. If he came out against the Bailout, he wins,,,period!
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Hell, if McCain had done
February 18, 2009 - 16:17 ET by Scuba DudeHell, if McCain had done what the MSM should have done and just asked Obama, "Who are you?". We don't know if you really were born in the US, we have never seen any of your school records, we do not know how you were able to travel to Pakistan when US citizens were not supposed to, we have never seen your thesis, we have never seen anything of yours from when you were part of the Harvard Law Review, we have not seen any of your records from when you where in the Illinois State legislature, what did you do when you were working in the law firm.
The list goes on and on and on and on.
If McCain had put forth these questions plus his associations with terrorist's, racists and crooks we just might have had a different person occupying the White House.
SD,
February 18, 2009 - 17:36 ET by UpNorthand also, his application to Occidental College, where he listed his place of birth. People have tried to get that application, but, just like his certificate of birth, it's "unavailable" and the Obamunist has employed lawyers to make sure it stays that way. His travels to places US citizens couldn't travel to, the lack of "tranparency" on his life all raise questions, questions McCain should have raised. Like you said, all he had to do was ask, "who are you?".
To All Between Here Upwards
February 18, 2009 - 19:39 ET by DoktorFrankenMcCain. Keep in mind what I say from here on is in regards to his political side. That idiot. I hate the guy. He had so many chances to stomp, STOMP on that Socialist weenie, Hussein. (Not to mention the openings he had with Hillary earlier on.) He held back and played the worst game he could have played against those soulless gangsters, the Democrats. He's too dumb to realize that you have to play their game their way - to the death, to win.
And then, after he chose Governor Palin - the absolute smartest thing he could have done - he reigned her in and didn't let her campaign the way she knows best. The way that she won before in Alaska. She won by her brains and the way she connected with people. But the GOP and McCain's people had to stick their stupid noses into it. Now look who we're stuck with.
Sarah - if you're out there, Hon, hang on. We'll ALL be behind YOU in 2012 and you WILL kick Hussein's butt out of office. After you fumigate the White House then you can get some real work done for this country.
You Betcha!
Quite, Doc
February 18, 2009 - 12:00 ET by BlondeNot only holding noses (remember McCain clothespins, anyone)....Anne Coulter had a schtick going where she'd have to be drunk to vote for McRino....just a matter of how many drinks it was going to take.
Ann Coulter, Blonde
February 18, 2009 - 12:08 ET by Mike BatesAnne Coulter had a schtick
Ann of a Thousand Schticks She drives 'em nuts(ier).
Anne
February 18, 2009 - 12:12 ET by BlondeAnn of Green Fables?
(Sorry Ms. Coulter, I always manage to put an "e" at the end of your name).
Ann of Mean
February 20, 2009 - 16:42 ET by JerAnn of Mean Labels?
Jer
More Fearful Leftist Revisionism
February 18, 2009 - 12:56 ET by stratmanMy mother voted the Republican presidential ticket for the first time in her life because of PALIN.
I voted for Palin, not any of the other guys.
Palin, and the fear of a Marxist as prez, was the reason I voted this past November. Looks like my fears are quickly quickly being realized.
→ Resent Sarah?
February 18, 2009 - 11:56 ET by Cool ArrowThis from the alternate universe that embraces "so called" terrorists? (h/t Helen Thomas).
so called terrorists
February 18, 2009 - 12:12 ET by Mike BatesThis from the alternate universe that embraces "so called" terrorists?
Heaven knows we have enough so called journalists.
Whatever these people call
February 18, 2009 - 11:56 ET by HelenSWhatever these people call themselves - writers, journalists, whatever - it must be one of the few jobs where checking your brain at the door is a prerequisite.
This is predictably disgusting but disgusting nonetheless.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Damn these lying scumbags
February 18, 2009 - 11:57 ET by mattmDamn these lying scumbags to Hell!
Sorry, but I am sick to death of this absolute bullsh*t. If Palin had not been on the ticket, McCain would have lost by at least 20 points. If Palin had been on the top of the ticket, with another good conservative veep, (and taking ACORN fraud votes out of the equation) she may very well be president right now.
But a country that would elect Barry Soetero Hussein Obama from Kenya, and would trust news sources like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc.... and propaganda rags like the WaPo and the NYT, doesn't deserve a decent, honorable and qualified president like Sarah Palin would be.
To hell with liberals.
sick to death
February 18, 2009 - 12:02 ET by Mike BatesUnfortunately, we usually get what we deserve.
Palin, Palin, Palin
February 18, 2009 - 12:01 ET by nolotrippenI'm glad she's still getting so much ink. It means Pravda 2.0 still fears her.
nail on head
February 18, 2009 - 12:37 ET by m1xramAh, the most salient comment here.
Which leads us to... the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Had it not been for Gov. Palin on the ticket...
February 18, 2009 - 12:02 ET by R D Helm...John McRino's loss would have been far more embarrassing than it actually was.
I know, because she was the only reason I voted for McCain.
"multiple [anonymous] sources"
LOL-So, they had to make up more than one "source" to try and sell this bag of steaming manure. Too funny.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
anonymous sources
February 18, 2009 - 12:09 ET by Mike BatesIf it weren't for anonymous sources, some newspapers would be even thinner than they already are.
Exactly. Comeon WAPO, list
February 18, 2009 - 12:52 ET by ThisnThatExactly. Comeon WAPO, list those republicans. I want to see the refutation of the original WAPO poll that clearly showed Palin was an asset.
Typical liberal bullsh** approach. Pull something out of thin air, ignore facts, and publish the rubbish as truth. Do they really believe we are blind and dumb? We're not democrats, people, so don't try to treat us as such.
___________________________________
The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
I made this slightly
February 19, 2009 - 09:37 ET by thebutlerdiditI made this slightly crude comment on another thread: Anonymous sources needs to either man up, grow a pair,put a name to the story, reveal their own sources, or just be taken out back and shot.
And doggone it, I mean it. I am so tired of this worn out cop out. It is disingenuous, and anyone talking, needs to be able to do the walking.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Palin saved McCain
February 18, 2009 - 12:11 ET by Joe C.Palin handed the election to McCain on a silver platter. All he had to do was vote against the Obama-Bush bailout (TARP) and he would have had a double-digit win, but instead he gagged. Palin kept it close for him, though; without her, he loses by 20.
→ Got that right Joe
February 18, 2009 - 12:18 ET by Cool ArrowJohn McCain could have Stood alone pointing the finger at Bush/Obama shouting "What were you saying about four more years of Bush, MoFo?"
Joe C.,
February 18, 2009 - 12:23 ET by R D HelmActually, I think McCrino would have lost by even more than that.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Once again we have the WaPo acting as attacker not reporter
February 18, 2009 - 12:04 ET by c5thenIt was McCain who lost the election with his strategy that he forced Palin to adhere to. When Palin was herself and strayed from the McCain plan, she did very well and the GOP ticket gained points in the national polls.
The only group of people who didn't like Palin and still don't are the liberal left-wing activists. Or put another way, 90% of the WaPo's staff. Mainly because she almost stole the election from the Acorn machine.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
Alan Keyes / Sarah Palin - 2012
McCain spent 80% of his
February 18, 2009 - 13:53 ET by SickofLibsMcCain spent 80% of his meager media coverage apologizing for you-name-it.
Palin's spent 0% of her almost all-negative media coverage apologizing.
This is what is called projection....
February 18, 2009 - 12:04 ET by Robert17The media are the reason that McCain lost! They slurped Obama and covered his inadequacies for months. Ignoring his inexperience and dubious associates. Now, they project on to Sarah Palin their own culpability. The fact that they continue to attack her shows they don't really believe shes the foolish bumpkin they want her to be.
What a load of moose poop!
February 18, 2009 - 12:06 ET by IamTinmanThe entire article is packed with innuendo and unsubstantiated backstabbing.
Virtually no one in the article is willing to disclose their identity which either makes Sarah Palin a truly powerful figure or just a target of a desperate reporters cheap gossip.
Afraid
February 18, 2009 - 12:06 ET by iveseenitallI believe the "liberals" are truly afraid of this woman. And after Barry's big government approach fails, a homespun, "average" gal may be the ticket to victory for the Republicans. Sarah is the real deal. Obama and his Chicago thugs are not.
NEVETR,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Ditto
February 18, 2009 - 14:17 ET by okiehawk44WaPo needs to look at the number of supporters on this blog. You know what they say about icebergs.
People still read the Washington Post?
February 18, 2009 - 12:10 ET by DJEddleI don't resent Palin. I resent all of those ignorant and stupid voters that decided John McCain was the best choice for the Republican Party.
*If you like the comments, check out the articles.
People still read the Washington Post?
February 18, 2009 - 12:13 ET by Mike BatesOnly if I can do so for free. It helps to know what the other side is up to.
Mr. Bates: You're excused
February 18, 2009 - 13:10 ET by DJEddleMr. Bates:
You're excused - but only because it's part of the job.
*If you like the comments, check out the articles.
Ah, forgiveness!
February 18, 2009 - 13:12 ET by Mike BatesYou're excused - but only because it's part of the job.
Thank heaven. For a while there, I was afraid it was gonna go on my permanent record.
WaPo for free? Big whoop
February 18, 2009 - 21:32 ET by needleYou have a lot stronger stomach than I. It would take a lot more than merely being free to entice / force me to read the WaPo.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Well, Michael... There's
February 19, 2009 - 00:53 ET by JerWell, Michael...
There's always the "unbiased" Washington Times. Are there any liberals on its editorial page?
Jer
Can't find any available
February 19, 2009 - 08:50 ET by BDCan't find any available since they are all over employed at WaPo, NYT, LAT, NPR, PBS, BosGlob, etc etc etc....
There is not an unemployed libral columnist to be had at any price they are so overemployed.
Busy preparing my
February 19, 2009 - 18:45 ET by JerBusy preparing my resume`...hmm...wondering if I should include my 'NB poster' experience.
Jer
Jer, did you mean
February 19, 2009 - 22:43 ET by Mike BatesBusy preparing my resume`...hmm...wondering if I should include my 'NB poster' experience.
You meant "NB poseur," right?
Respectfully, of course.
Michael...
February 19, 2009 - 23:16 ET by JerDoes that mean I should forget about the letter of recommendation I had hoped you would write on my behalf?
Jer
Hey, pretty soon the NYT
February 20, 2009 - 08:58 ET by BDHey, pretty soon the NYT will be shopping for "Cheaper" columnists to drop their costs. Keep your hopes up.
Its either that or Pinch will convert it to a Wednesday Shopper.....
→ How much cheaper?
February 20, 2009 - 09:01 ET by Cool ArrowDidn't the police already shoot the chimp?
My price has dropped
February 20, 2009 - 14:39 ET by JerMy price has dropped considerably. My pride as well.
Jer
→ Sorry Jer
February 20, 2009 - 14:46 ET by Cool ArrowBut I'm still your other avid reader.
Jer's letter of recommendation
February 20, 2009 - 10:10 ET by Mike BatesDoes that mean I should forget about the letter of recommendation I had hoped you would write on my behalf?
Absolutely not. Just please be certain that you include a handsome check with your request. Like that good Democrat, former La. Senator John Breaux, my support can't be bought. It can, however, be rented.
→ Bates
February 20, 2009 - 10:17 ET by Cool ArrowMe and some other guy are the only members who read Jer's posts as it is.
Write the letter. Couldn't hurt the NYT circulation.
→ WAPO?
February 20, 2009 - 10:20 ET by Cool ArrowOK, but the other guy pays better attention
~Cool
February 20, 2009 - 10:22 ET by choselife3xHow many times do I hafta tell ya I'm a girl?!
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
→ Sorry
February 20, 2009 - 10:27 ET by Cool ArrowOf cours, you're a girl. How silly of me.
Jer wouldn't make that mistake.
~I forgive you
February 20, 2009 - 10:38 ET by choselife3xShe said magnanimously.
Now go, and sin no more.
(and no, Jer didn't make that mistake. *blushing*)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
So, Cool...only TWO you say?
February 20, 2009 - 15:08 ET by JerMaybe so, but I've only been here a year and nine months. Besides, for the power of two, I need only refer you to Genesis. Of course that may require a formal introduction to choselife. [But she's very 'friendly'.] ;-)
Jer
→ Your other reader
February 20, 2009 - 15:11 ET by Cool ArrowWe've met.
Then go ye forth and
February 20, 2009 - 15:18 ET by JerThen go ye forth and multiply.
Jer
~Jer!!!!!
February 20, 2009 - 16:23 ET by choselife3xJust passing me around like popcorn, huh?
I am deeply affronted! Cool hasn't even offered to buddy me, I'll have you know. Of course, I DO seem to be running short of space on my profile page......
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Michael...About that handsome check:
February 20, 2009 - 14:53 ET by JerWould you consider a promissory note payable "when the economy turns around"?
As far as "handsome", I could tape a picture of Pop Tech on the front. He has described himself as tall, blonde, well-built and exceedingly clean.
Jer
As clean as Obama
February 20, 2009 - 15:05 ET by Mike BatesSorry, Jer, it needs to be a money order, not that I don't trust you or anything.
And as for anyone who's described himself as tall, blonde, well-built and exceedingly clean, that sounds like something Joltin' Joe Biden would say. Or maybe from an Internet Lothario.
Except Biden would have
February 20, 2009 - 15:14 ET by JerExcept Biden would have added that his I.Q. is extraordinarily high.
Jer
Here is the Internet
February 20, 2009 - 16:14 ET by Scuba DudeHere is the Internet translation:
Tall = short
Blonde = mousy brown
well-built = beer gut
exceedingly clean = severe case of cheeto d!ck
~Dude
February 20, 2009 - 16:27 ET by choselife3xOh dear, I hope PT didn't use his entire supply of ointment on his bongo bark rash, 'cause he's going to need it for that massive BURN.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Just calling it like it is
February 20, 2009 - 16:40 ET by Scuba DudeJust calling it like it is Ma'am. : )
This is the Internet, I take with a very large grain of salt anyone's description of themselves.
Scuba Dude
February 22, 2009 - 07:05 ET by thebutlerdiditI'll have you know when I say I need to lose 10-20 lbs, I really mean 10-20, not 85, doggone it! And when I say I am a tall goddess at 5'2, I'm not trying to "stretch" the truth! Otherwise though, I am really, really hot. ;-)
Oh! And I forgot, really, really young.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
It's obvious that the libs
February 18, 2009 - 12:12 ET by flyingmonkeyIt's obvious that the libs in the MSM are still scared to death of this woman. As the Affirmative Action Hero continues to display his incompetence and inexperience, buyers remorse will have people taking another long, hard look at Sarah Palin. WaPo is trying to head that off at the pass.
I urge them to keep lying. People are starting to notice and their readership will continue to decline. I expect Sarah Palin to be there in 2012. I can't say the same for the Washington Post.
Time for a Poll
February 18, 2009 - 12:15 ET by DenioTime for a Poll on this... I think more people liked Sarah Palin than John McCain
Great idea! NB, can you
February 18, 2009 - 12:28 ET by expatriotGreat idea! NB, can you set it up?
who needs a poll?
February 18, 2009 - 17:29 ET by m1xramCome on, you know the answer already. Palin wins by a landslide.
sarah and the wapoop
February 18, 2009 - 12:21 ET by east tennessee johnLet's see unnamed sources,flying in the face of actual, reputable polling data, yeah, the wapoop is just passing the beltway b.s. on. You'd think they would write about Sgt. Schultz and his most open honest ethical transparent administration ever and how the "stimulus" bill was put together and slammed through Congress.
Only Alaskan voters feel suspicious?
February 18, 2009 - 12:22 ET by katiejanea suspicion crossing party lines that the concerns of Alaska, at a time of economic crisis, will now be secondary to her future in national politics.
So now no sitting politician is allowed to run for any national office? Did the NY voters who Hillary told that she only wanted to be their Senator feel cheated that she not only ran for Pres but then bailed as their Senator when she lost? Do the Delaware people feel that Biden shoudn't have run for Pres nor taken the job as VP? Sounds like both sides of the aisle in Alaska are freaking crybabies.
Suspicious minds
February 18, 2009 - 12:27 ET by Mike BatesWhich reminds me of Obama in 2004:
"'I was elected yesterday,' Obama said. 'I have never set foot in the U.S. Senate. I've never worked in Washington. And the notion that somehow I'm immediately going to start running for higher office just doesn't make sense.
'So look, I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years. . .
Sarah Palin
February 18, 2009 - 12:25 ET by cocodrieSarah Palin represents a grass roots awakening of conservatives in America. That is a scary thing to these flaming liberal socialists.
If enough voters at the local and state level wake up, we have a prayer. If not, We are going to go down in flames.
Jesus Loves You
When we go down in flames,
February 18, 2009 - 14:01 ET by SickofLibsWhen we go down in flames, at least we'll have the solace of being able to look out the window and see Obama plummeting down alongside.
He's got 47 months to go, and he's looking to me like he is not going to be able to handle it, unless he cuts back to four hours a day, delegates EVERYTHING, and just focuses on the social niceties of the job.
They Fear Her in 2012 So Much!!!
February 18, 2009 - 12:29 ET by Bighead227They will try to destroy her for 4 more years because they know how effective and how popular she truly is. And they are terrified...
They Fear Her in 2012 So Much!!!
February 18, 2009 - 12:29 ET by Bighead227They will try to destroy her for 4 more years because they know how effective and how popular she truly is. And they are terrified...
Hmmm, so let me see if I
February 18, 2009 - 12:36 ET by SvenHmmm, so let me see if I understand this: The election is over, McCain lost, Obama won, but the Drive-bys are still focusing on Palin?
This smells of abject fear on the part of the left...they are scared crapless that Palin's going to run in 2012. I guess her new pac is really terrifying them...too funny!
Oh yeah
February 18, 2009 - 12:36 ET by serfer62The day Sarah was announced was the day the McNasty campeign got 10 million in a matter of hours...doesn't sound like she was the sad end of that candidacy...
Fixed it.
February 18, 2009 - 12:40 ET by T-Bone MassMcCain Faces 'Lingering Resentment' From GOP for Role in McCain's Loss
T-Bone, You nailed it! I
February 18, 2009 - 12:43 ET by SvenT-Bone,
You nailed it! I received an e-mail for McCain's Senate reeelction campaign asking me to support him with a financial gift! forget that i live in Utah!
I fired off an e-mail telling him to....we'll, I better not repeat it!
Lingering Resentment
February 18, 2009 - 12:56 ET by Mike BatesMcCain Faces 'Lingering Resentment' From GOP for Role in McCain's Loss
Don't think we'll be seeing headline that in the MSM any time soon. It'd be nice, though
Thre it is, folks.
February 18, 2009 - 12:44 ET by CobraMan"her future in national politics"
There it is, folks, the real reason the WaPo decided to run yet another hit piece on Palin, complete with unnamed sources and "suspicion." The liberals are afraid of Palin's future affect on nation politics. They are afraid she will upset the apple cart and all the liberal worms will come rolling out with the bad apples.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Cobra
February 18, 2009 - 12:52 ET by SvenThe liberals are afraid of Palin's future affect on nation politics. They are afraid she will upset the apple cart and all the liberal worms will come rolling out with the bad apples.
Oh, no doubt! You just wait! If we thought the attacks on her were vicious during the campaign (when she was McCain's veep), just wait until she announces her bid for the presidency (If she does).
I'm going to be e-mailing my Senators and Reps and demand that they support her and not give into the poison from the Leftists! The more the media attack this lady and her family, the MORE support she'll garner from the conservative base!!
It won't be just conservatives
February 18, 2009 - 13:10 ET by CobraManIt won't just be the Conservatives that rally to her defense, a lot of Moderates will too. You can't simply attack, and attack, and attack a charming, intelligent, resourceful woman here in America and NOT generate massive support for her. Say what you will about the inequities of the sexes, Americas don't take kindly to incessant attacks on a woman.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
WaPo must be really scared
February 18, 2009 - 12:54 ET by semolina_filcherWaPo must be really scared of a possible Palin presidency. Now there's a president I can be proud of!
Same
February 18, 2009 - 13:07 ET by StarAZUnlike a certain someone, Palin is a quick study.
I want to fight these...
February 18, 2009 - 13:10 ET by AgentAmerican...scumbags. I want revenge. I want justice. I will do anything for President Palin.
2010: A GOP Hill
Palin > McCain. She's the
February 18, 2009 - 13:11 ET by wiwfPalin > McCain. She's the reason I voted for McCain in the first place!
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
No doubt
February 18, 2009 - 13:17 ET by CobraManI have no doubt that someone like PopularTech (our resident Anti-Palin advocate) will soon arrive with massive, and redundant, lists of links, fake "resumes" , and other assorted minutiae explaining to us all how "unqualified" Sarah is and why she hurt Mc Cain's campaign.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Palin cost McCain the election
February 18, 2009 - 22:01 ET by PopularTech82% believed Sarah Palin caused John McCain to lose the election (CNN)
81% of independent voters said they were less likely to vote for McCain because of Palin (Los Angeles Times / Bloomberg)
80% of women voters believe McCain picked Palin for Political Reasons not Qualifications (Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group)
79% of uncommitted voters did not believe Palin won the VP Debate (CBS News / Knowledge Networks)
75% of likely voters did not believe Palin has the right experience to be president (AP / GfK)
72% of registered independent voters were not very comfortable with Palin as President (FOX News / Opinion Dynamics)
72% of voters say that McCain's choice of Palin did not make them inclined to vote Republican (San Francisco Chronicle)
70% of voters do not believe Sarah Palin is qualified to step in as President (FOX News / Edison/Mitofsky)
68% of voters were not very comfortable with Palin as President (FOX News / Opinion Dynamics)
66% of likely voters were not very comfortable with Palin as Vice President (FOX News / Opinion Dynamics)
61% of voters did not believe Sarah Palin is ready to serve as President (USA Today / Gallup)
60% of women under 50 have an unfavorable opinion of Sarah Palin (The Pew Research Center)
60% of Americans do not think Sarah Palin has enough experience to be President (ABC News)
59% of voters said Sarah Palin is not qualified (New York Times / CBS News)
58% of Americans do not think Palin is qualified to assume the presidency (CNN / Opinion Research)
58% of likely women voters do not have a positive opinion of Palin (Time Magazine)
57% of likely voters said Palin does not have the personal qualities a president should have (CNN / Opinion Research)
56% of registered women voters trust Hillary Clinton more than Sarah Palin (Blum & Weprin Associates)
55% of registered voters did not believe Palin is qualified to step in as president (Newsweek / Princeton Survey Research Associates)
55% of voters said Sarah Palin is unqualified (NBC News / Wall Street Journal)
52% of women voters said Sarah Palin is not qualified (Quinnipiac University / Wall Street Journal)
51% of likely voters view Sarah Palin unfavorably (ABC News / Washington Post)
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Now that we have heard from the Democrats in the polls...
February 19, 2009 - 02:07 ET by JWFHow about hearing from the 48% of voters that actually VOTED for McCain/Palin.
How is it that out of the 4 billion polls/pollsters/opinionaters that no one has ever asked me to partake in a poll in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF MY LIFE.
Cuz I would have told them, yea, Palin was not my top choice BUT OH MY GOD I cannot vote for the socialist/terrorist hugger/cut&run/gaffe machine/amateur empty suit that is on the other ticket.
It could have been McCain/Robot from "Lost in Space" vs Obama/2nd coming of Jesus Christ hisself & I still would have voted for the McCain ticket ONLY BECAUSE HE WAS NOT OBAMA.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Wrong, CobraMan
February 18, 2009 - 20:39 ET by Mike BatesI have no doubt that someone like PopularTech (our resident Anti-Palin advocate) will soon arrive with massive, and redundant, lists of links, fake "resumes" , and other assorted minutiae explaining to us all how "unqualified" Sarah is and why she hurt Mc Cain's campaign.
It took him hours to put it together.
I had other things to do today
February 18, 2009 - 21:11 ET by PopularTechThat took less than 10 seconds.
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→ PT
February 18, 2009 - 21:15 ET by Cool ArrowNobody can say you weren't provoked.
~G R O A N
February 18, 2009 - 21:31 ET by choselife3xTHUD..THUD..THUD..THUD..THUD
(yes, that is the sound a head makes against a brick wall)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
BoB
February 19, 2009 - 09:08 ET by BDBoB Barrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
Wanna go for the thrid round of the Paul/Barr foreign policy/Defense policy hash out?
Or do you wish to recant your position that terrorism did not occur prior to 1948?
Hay, Pop.
February 19, 2009 - 11:33 ET by CobraManHay, Pop, do you have those lists programed into a function key macro, or you do have those lists saved in notepad and just copy and paste? I would hazard a guess that's it more of the latter than the former.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Are you kidding
February 18, 2009 - 13:19 ET by Founding_FatherMrs. Palin is the ONLY reason I didn't have to hold my nose while voting for McRino...
Clowns!
The WaPo's insight on just
February 18, 2009 - 13:30 ET by marvlThe WaPo's insight on just about anything is very poorly aimed, about like giving a .44 magnum pistol to Dr. Strangelove and asking him to shoot a fly off of Nancy Pelosi's skinny ass. "Uh... uh... Mein Fuhrer!!!!! I can walk!!!!!"
Save the Republic: Palin for President.
Palin is Popular
February 18, 2009 - 13:31 ET by jarrett.edwardsI went to my local Barns and Noble in Augusta, GA to pick up Trailblazer the new Sarah Palin biography by Lorenzo Benet. I haven't read the book yet, but it looks good. Anyways, even though B&N had the book hidden in the lower reaches of the biography section they were close to being sold out, they had only two copies I bought one and placed the other one on the top of the center display I took down one of the large number of Obama books and placed Sarah next to a Reagan book. My point is if Palin is so unpopular then why would a book about her sell out without and pushing by the bookstore?
so what't the problem?
February 18, 2009 - 13:32 ET by jazzact13--A number of factors seem to have contributed to the bumpy homecoming:--
Which leads me to wonder if this "bumpy homecoming" is fact, or journalistic fiction buttressed by rumor and statement of far northern libs (because maybe even the tundra isn't free of them).
--a residual anger among Democrats for the attack-dog role Palin assumed in the McCain campaign--
Oh, dear, the Dems are angry, how could she make them to that to her?
--lingering resentment from Republicans for the part she may have played in McCain's defeat--
Perhaps the biggest howler of them all. Palin was the one thing that gave the McCain campaign any life at all.
--and a suspicion crossing party lines that the concerns of Alaska, at a time of economic crisis, will now be secondary to her future in national politics.--
You mean, they're afraid she'll act like H. Clinton and Obama?
For some reason, I doubt that. I doubt she'll simply vote "present" in things concerning her state and her responsibilities, even if she also keeps in the national light.
"Thoroughly worldly people never understand even the world; they rely altogether on a few cynical maxims which are not true."
Chesterton, Orthodoxy
Palin
February 18, 2009 - 13:41 ET by urbuggenmeVery Good WaPo; any press is good press.
I hope they keep Sarah Palin's name in the media as much as possible. As far as Sarah Palin losing the election for McCain, I for one made up my mind to vote for McCain just because of Palin, if it hadn't been for Sarah Palin as a running mate, I would not have voted for McCain. Don't like his middle of the road/isle tactics.
Sarah "Kill the Wolves" Palin 2012!
Palin is...
February 18, 2009 - 13:42 ET by danhat... the only reason I voted for McCain. He would have been trounced if not for her.
http://www.reasonand...
...thought matters
++++++++++++++++
Normally I don't root for the disease. But in your case I am willing to make and exception.
Agreed. I was going to sit
February 18, 2009 - 14:43 ET by BDAgreed. I was going to sit on the sidelines in the last election until McCain picked palin.
They're nuts
February 18, 2009 - 13:43 ET by AnastasI wasn't going to vote for "President" until Sarah Palin was named VP running mate. Everyone in my family and friends felt the same way. Sure, she isn't perfect but look at the Perfect one now?
To be perfectly honest, I'm glad McCain lost because if we are going to have leftist policies, I'd rather have the Dems take credit for destroying America.
Agreed...dead f'ing wrong.
February 18, 2009 - 13:43 ET by TheConservativeChemistAgreed...dead f'ing wrong. The *only* reason McCain was even as close as he was was because of Palin...
Conservative Chemist.. I
February 18, 2009 - 18:00 ET by celatorConservative Chemist.. I absolutely agree. Even more, McCain's "resurrection" at the end of 2007 was scheme of the left and the Old Media, because they knew he could not win. They wanted McCain to be the R candidate.
The liberal socialists understand full well that Gov. Palin is a force to be reckoned with-- in the future. She needs more seasoning, less naivity about Washington politics (R and D politics), and more focus. And she will acquire all that and more in the future, if she choses to do so.
The libs believe she's coming back, hence the relentless campaign to demolish her reputation and her standing in the eyes of the voting public. They are terrified of her, because she can beat them and they know it.
I'm another who swung back---
February 18, 2009 - 14:14 ET by misterbilland it was because of Sarah. She was not a PERFECT conservative, but she was closer than all the others.
There are a few members (GOP) in the House (just a few) who are true Constitution supporters. Most are only known to their constituents. The most known is and has been scoffed at on this site and others. His followers, (I was not one of them), were derided here. Their behavior ceratinly made one stop and worry about them. Nonetheless, the strongest supporter of the Constitution was and is Ron Paul.
As I sit here today, I can see that America would be so much better off with a Ron Paul than either McCain or Obama that I wish he had won me over as well as many others.
In the final analysis --would have, could have--doesn't mean squat, so I am just dreaming here.
Not THAT embarrassment
February 18, 2009 - 21:45 ET by UnsaneNonetheless, the strongest supporter of the Constitution was and is Ron Paul. Yeah, THE FINAL AUTHORITY on the Constitution, Ron Paul, so strongly supports it that he wants to make America as weak,whiny and pathetic as possible on the world stage.
Not to mention that I simply cannot find anywhere in the Constitution where the federal government is supposed to support the TX shrimp industry, or where it says that it is supposed to pay for buses for municipal transit systems; both things Mr. Constitution has voted for and benefitted from.
He is an embarrassment to the state of TX.
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
lingering resentment from Republicans
February 18, 2009 - 14:54 ET by CarlosSI'm not sure, but I may have felt that lingering resentment when Governor Palin sent me an email describing her newly formed PAC..., it all went away after made the donation, though :-)
Palan 2012 Go!
I Just Love The Way A Simple Hockey Mom
February 18, 2009 - 14:57 ET by Asian Condrives the liberals bat-sh*#! This election was by no means a blowout. Yes, it was a electoral vote landslide but, the popular vote was very close. A lot of moderate Dems crossed over to vote for Palin. The PUMA's, remember?
That being said, I don't like how the electoral votes are divvied out. I'm from CA and 55 votes goes to the Dems every 4 years. I think it should be based on percentages. Meaning, if McCain loses CA 60-40, he should get 40% of the electoral votes. It doesn't seem fair that if a candidate loses a state by 51-49, he loses all the EV's.
"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle." - Thomas Jefferson
"Anonymous sources" and Sarah Palin...
February 18, 2009 - 15:14 ET by PrairieSkyThis WaPo article is such a piece of garbage and is clear proof that the left is still trying to do everything it can to continue to trash and diminish Sarah Palin and her positive effect on McCain's campaign. I don't know who these "anonymous sources" are, but I wouldn't give a plug nickel for their supposed "insight". Sarah Palin is the reason that McCain lost only by 7 points instead of 17! As a Republican who attended a McCain/Palin rally and saw the energy and excitement that she brought, and who was very active in this last election, I can tell you that virtually none of those that I have spoken to blame Sarah for McCain's loss. In fact, they credit her for being the shot of excitement that the campaign desperately needed.
McCain's loss was due to overall anger (deservedly or not) at the Republican "brand", the meltdown of the economy, and ultimately, McCain himself.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
The lingering resentment...............
February 18, 2009 - 15:34 ET by wotsiznamewotsizname ......comes from synthetic people who are buffaloed by a normal American human like the 300 million who live outside of their bubble. In Alaska, I live about 20 miles from the Palins, read the local rag every day, and haven't heard anything negative except from the two local groups; resentful Democrats and fellow Republicans who are all still sore because Alaska voted in a landslide election for Sarah. She is accepted by the vast majority of Alaskans, and will succeed and prevail. Get over it.
Without getting too detailed...
February 18, 2009 - 15:38 ET by Lord ErondI don't know what's taught at the liberal view of journalism school but the word SEEMS should have NO PLACE whatsoever in an allegedly factual article regarding the idea being presented. Seems carries a gross bias of "Well, we heard a few rumors, but nothing proven" sort of feel to it. This is why the major media is in the toilet.
"What you can not enforce, do not command" -Sophocles-
Palin is a deadly threat to liberalism
February 18, 2009 - 15:41 ET by slickwillie2001Palin presents an ENORMOUS threat to liberalism for many reasons.
-She is a woman; like black or hispanic conservatives, she represents a threat to the integrity of the liberal plantation where federally-defined minorities are politically incarcerated.
-She comes from outside of the liberal Eastern Ivy-League elite intelligentsia that feels that only they are entitled to rule. They deride the colleges that she attended, and anywhere she lived and anything she's done.
-She is young, she represents a twenty-year threat to the democratics. Forget McCain, the old media can go back to kissing his butt because he is done. Palin is the new threat.
-She can get the same crowds that Obammy can. Remember the consternation in the old media at the Palin gatherings; they low-balled her crowd numbers, and blew up Obammy's to ridiculous levels (still are). Palin's crowds terrified the liberals, because they completely destroyed their carefully managed image of the Republican Party as a party of old rich white guys.
They will never hold their fire on Palin. This assault will go on for years.
slick
February 18, 2009 - 22:45 ET by SvenOutstanding analysis!! Spot on!!
I voted for Palin who was
February 18, 2009 - 16:38 ET by eaglewingz08I voted for Palin who was unfortunately tied to the anchor Mcstain on the ballot. I never met a republican Presidential candidate who when faced with a totally unqualified democrap candidate like Obama, would opine as McCain did, that Obama was more than qualified and that he was a friend (same qualifications given for Reid and Peelousy by McCain). So for six months McCain is telling everyone how qualified Obama is, then his VP is telling everyone how unqualified Obama is. Talk about diluting one's message.
Now the media is in full attack mode against Gov Palin again. They saw democrap after democrap with tax problems and they must MUST find a repub to make this bipartisan affair, so they're trying to go after Gov Palin for her per diem payments, but they completely ignore Rahmbo's free rent in the home of a lobbyist and Obama's ethical and possible tax violations in receiving speaking fees while in the Illinois State Senate.
McCain GO WAY, LEAVE THE SENATE!
February 18, 2009 - 16:51 ET by CrashHonestly!?
And who would these GOPer's be ... the same ones who voted for the reincarnation of the Dole campaign.
I can imagine how these idiots based their votes, "he's a Vietnam vet, a Vietnam vet, a Vietnam vet and a wishy-washy reach across the isle, 'suspend my campaign' type of guy."
"A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument." Hilmar von Campe
→ Palin in deep trouble
February 18, 2009 - 18:16 ET by Cool Arrow"Chink in Sarah Palin's armor"
Of course it's several lines down that the AP reports Alaska has $6.6 billion in reserve.
I got yer chink, San Francisco.
Beck was talking about that this morning
February 19, 2009 - 02:31 ET by JWFAlaska has enough money set aside to last 2 years in this economy.
California does not have enough to last 2 minutes.
So let's take the money from states like Alaska and give it to California.
Let's steal from the ant and give to the grasshopper so he can continue to party.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Is it any wonder
February 18, 2009 - 18:57 ET by BobAnthonyThat the Post is called by myself AFAIK The Washington COMPOST?
BECAUSE IT'S WRITER'S HAVE HORSE-S$$$ FOR BRAINS!
Want the PLAIN truth and no spin? Listen to The Plains Radio Network online. It's like nothing you've ever heard.
Saving face
February 18, 2009 - 19:44 ET by nkviking75I don't doubt that there are some in the GOP who wrongly blame Sarah Palin for the loss. There is a faction in the party that hates conservatives, especially conservatives known to be evangelical Christians (though I don't recall the Governor making much of that herself). These RINOs are naturally trying to sell this theory through the MSM. McCain's drubbing is an obvious rejection of RINO-ism. They have to do something to save face.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Wrongly blame Palin for the loss? She was the reason he lost
February 18, 2009 - 21:28 ET by PopularTechI HATE SARAH PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
PopTech, read more closely
February 18, 2009 - 21:39 ET by nkviking75PopTech, read more closely. I did not equate conservatives and evangelicals. I mentioned conservatives and then the subset of evangelical Christian conservatives.
To put your thesis another way, if McCain had not chosen Palin, he'd have won the election. You've got to be kidding. McCain had little enthusiasm within the party, an energized opposition party, and a media shamelessly campaigning for Obama. Your dislike of Palin is blinding you to the reality that she energized a bunch of Republicans and brought in a lot of voters that would have stayed home.
Whatever her shortcomings as a candidate, she did not cost McCain the election.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
My original comment was deleted and replaced with a smear
February 18, 2009 - 22:08 ET by PopularTechSo I cannot answer you.
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I noticed, PT, that your
February 18, 2009 - 23:08 ET by needleI noticed, PT, that your previous comment was removed and replaced.
All I can say is that you were warned … last week.
I was at that moment in the process of explaining that your four links (which were removed) were about as silly as Dan Rather’s claims about Bush’s National Guard Service. They were all distorted and /or discredited stories or mean spirited Gotchas. Nobody is going to make you like Governor Palin. But at the same time you discredit yourself by your throwing up garbage from the Anchorage Daily News (soul sister of the NYT) and similar sources to try to dissuade intelligent people at this site – they saw through that garbage long time ago. And you know they are fed up with seeing it again and again and again. Your behavior has been as bad as a troll's.
Apparently you are the one and only person at this site who actually thinks Palin caused McCain's to loose the election. I would venture to say that just about everyone here considers that as
silly as the theory that Chaney arranged the distruction of the WTC.
You would do better to stick to your Global Warming debunking, with which by the way Governor Palin is in agreement, I believe. If you could be charitable, you could see her one who supports your interest; but apparently that is too much to expect.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Reading Comprehension
February 19, 2009 - 01:29 ET by PopularTechThat was for the the THREAD NOT the SITE. Nothing I have posted has been discredited. Intelligent people can read the facts they don't need me to pursuade them. Which is why McCain lost, Palin is unqualified and NOT what people make her out to be.
I am one of the only people who does not care what Palin supporters say about me. My facts don't change.
No Palin is NOT in agreement about AGW, she is an economic illiterate:
Biden, Palin in complete agreement: Carbon caps are coming (The Industry Standard)
MODERATOR: "...do you support capping carbon emissions?"
PALIN: "I do. I do." (Transcript)
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Reading Comprehension
February 19, 2009 - 01:35 ET by contraryYour arguments on Palin are roundly ignored.
Do you not have the basic comprehension of this fact?
Why is this? Could it be you are not persuasive enough?
I know, come up with some links.
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
You think they are ignored
February 19, 2009 - 01:42 ET by PopularTechThe facts speak for themselves.
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DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND
February 19, 2009 - 01:58 ET by contraryDo you not understand the questions?
Did I somehow not ask them plainly enough?
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
Do you not understand the facts?
February 19, 2009 - 02:06 ET by PopularTechAlaska Raises Tax On Oil Profits To 25% (CBS News, November 17, 2007)
Alaska Gov. Palin signs bill to hike oil tax (Reuters, December 19, 2007)
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Do you have a mental
February 19, 2009 - 02:14 ET by contraryDo you have a mental defect? Are you able to answer the question I posed to you?
I will write the next line in BOLD so hopefully you can comprehend the question.
WHY IS IT YOUR ARGUMENTS RELATING TO SARAH PALIN ARE ROUNDLY IGNORED ON THIS FORUM?
Please try to answer this one question. I know it is a big one, and your first instinct may be to link some factoid about Sarah Palin, or say something about reading comprehension, but try to think about the answer. Perhaps you may come to some realization.
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
Who said they are ignored?
February 19, 2009 - 02:23 ET by PopularTechYou have mainly Palin supporters who post relentlessly in Palin related threads and many who do not wish to engage the rabid Palin collective. The Palin collective trys to shout them down by claiming they have PDS or are a Troll which are both laughable. That doesn't mean they are ignored.
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I do not see the "many who
February 19, 2009 - 02:36 ET by contraryI do not see the "many who do not wish to engage the rabid Palin collective," just you posting here in defiance. Does this "collective" not stand by their candidate like a Barr collective does on a Libertarian forum, or Biden collective on a donkey board?
What do you hope to gain here? You have been routinely beaten, savaged, and scoffed at. (I know, I know, you have never been proven wrong.) I ask that in all seriousness as a casual observer to these forums, and notice it's past 2 am and you are still posting. This must be awfully important to you.
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
If they are not posting.
February 19, 2009 - 21:55 ET by PopularTechHow would you see them? On libertarian forums there are many who do not support Barr. Your comparison to a dem board is about right as they do the same thing about Obama.
I have yet to be beaten with the facts.
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no PT you arent ignored
February 19, 2009 - 02:46 ET by dark_dsWe tried to ignore you for a stretch but it was beyond our collective patience and our personal constitutions, but we sucked it up and still tried to ignore you PT. But WE cracked and gave into becoming angry crazed throng of neighbors . Your barking throughout the day drove us 1st to try and be responsible neighbors with you and to try and reason with you even bringing in the PDS whisper to help you ....when that didnt work we became more and more strindent in our displeasure of you ... But PT you just continued to bark and bark bark .. everytime we fired up the puter there you were, barking and whining ... it has gotten to the point that the "adminstrators" cant even stop your barking ... they will throw you a Global Warming Bone just to quiet you down but to no avail PT the Anti Palin/ Link Hound continues to howl at the moon. And all of us, your NB neighbors just started to yell at you and want you to just shut up, please shut up! And now we pray please oh lord Barry please just make him shut up ....and then the Lord Obama just lifted him into the air and dropped PT on to the North Slope of Alaska to run with the 3 legged wolves and polar bears... and peace was restored to the Hinter Lands of dwindling bandwidth untill Guttermouth woke up and then began fouling our water supply. And the story continues to this day/
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"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
~I think I'm in LUUV
February 19, 2009 - 09:12 ET by choselife3xWith dark_ds. *blushing*
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
So What ?
February 18, 2009 - 21:48 ET by Free StinkerSarah Palin Can't Name a Newspaper She Reads
Relevance ? (i.e. - So What ?)
Palin Doesn't Know What The Bush Doctrine Is
As if there was a "Bush Doctrine". Just a term Krautheimer coined.
Fox News: Palin didn't know Africa was a continent
False story from a non-existant individual.
O'Reilly: Palin refused interview preparation for Katie Couric
Relevance ? (i.e. - So What ?)
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Some UnProfessional NB Staff Member edited my posts
February 18, 2009 - 22:06 ET by PopularTechInteresting the censorship here. Not only did they delete what I said they smeared me by changing it to say "I Hate Sarah Palin". Now if you all think this is acceptable behavior here let me know.
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Censorship, PT? Hardly
February 18, 2009 - 22:09 ET by R D HelmIts more like someone is engaged in doing God's work.
:-)
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
You find it acceptable having a NB Staff member smear me?
February 18, 2009 - 22:11 ET by PopularTechSo RD, you find it acceptable to have a NB Staff member change what I said and replace it with lies? I would expect nothing less from someone as dishonest as yourself. You like censorship but this goes beyond that and is slander.
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PopTech
February 18, 2009 - 22:15 ET by Free StinkerYou are in a poor position to complain about honesty seeing as you deliberately misquoted me just to try and falsely win an arguement.
Did I delete any of your comments and replace it with a smear?
February 18, 2009 - 22:16 ET by PopularTechFree, time to man up and be honest.
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PopTech
February 18, 2009 - 22:21 ET by Free StinkerNo.
You.
Deliberately.
Misquoted.
Me.
End of story.
No I didn't
February 18, 2009 - 22:24 ET by PopularTechNot only did I not deliberately misquote you, I never edited any of your posts (because I cannot). You however have stated numerous lies and smears about me.
End of Story, time to grow up.
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PopTech
February 18, 2009 - 22:33 ET by Free StinkerNot only did I not deliberately misquote you,
It's right here.
I never edited any of
your posts (because I cannot).
I never said you did. I don't think you did. I haven't posted anything that has ever stated that you edit anyones comments.
You however have stated numerous lies
and smears about me.
What lies? What Smears? Care to back that up?
I didn't quote you at all
February 18, 2009 - 22:44 ET by PopularTechDo you even know what a quote is? Replying to you is not misquoting you. Your link shows no misquote from me about you.
When you have stated numerous times that I have PDS, hate women and hate Palin. You are a smear artist.
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PopTech
February 18, 2009 - 22:49 ET by Free StinkerI have stated that you have PDS, but that is no smear.
Even Newsbuster's Associate Editor has posted that you have PDS.
You do seem to hate women and hate Palin, however I do not know for a fact that you do. But it sure seems that way, don't you agree?
Oh, and another nice attempt at diversion, but your "reply" just happened to be a quote me *almost* exactly.
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Two liars stating a lie does not make it the truth
February 18, 2009 - 22:57 ET by PopularTechJust because a NB Associate Editor repeated the lie does not make it true.
No I don't hate women or Palin. See you stated the lies again.
I never quoted you at all! What part of the word "quote" do you not understand?
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PopTech Your PDS is an accepted fact here
February 18, 2009 - 23:00 ET by Free StinkerYour PDS is an accepted fact here at Newsbusters.
Expresing my opinion isn't a lie.
I agree on the 3rd point. You didn't quote me. You *misquoted* me.
It is not a fact but a lie and smear
February 18, 2009 - 23:11 ET by PopularTechSpread by palin Supporters to try and diminish any criticism or her. You cannot debate the facts which are damning so you smear the messenger.
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Hay Pop, Guess you FORGOT this
February 18, 2009 - 23:18 ET by upcountrywaterA warning from WTH
pURPLe pINKy
Reading Comprehension?
February 19, 2009 - 01:03 ET by PopularTechThat for that thread NOT the site. WTH does not run NBs but I respect his opinion.
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PopTech
February 18, 2009 - 23:42 ET by Free StinkerYou come up with a valid criticism of her, I will agree.
The non-sense you have been repeating such as the discredited "Africa" story? Just proves the PDS.
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
The Africa Story has NOT been discredited
February 19, 2009 - 01:06 ET by PopularTechWe already went over this...
Fox News: Palin didn't know Africa was a continent (Video)
O'Reilly: Palin refused interview preparation for Katie Couric (Video)
"The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin _ not the Fox News story itself. While Palin has denied that she mistook Africa for a country, the veracity of that report was not put in question by the revelation that Eisenstadt is a phony." (Fox News)
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Fox News: Palin didn't know
February 19, 2009 - 14:43 ET by Free StinkerFox News: Palin didn't know Africa was a continent (Video)
Then who is their source? "Anonomous" ?
Who.
Is.
Their.
Source? GET IT?
O'Reilly: Palin refused interview preparation for Katie Couric (Video)
I answered this earlier - Relevance ? (i.e. - so what ?)
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Free,It is an excercise
February 19, 2009 - 15:15 ET by Scuba DudeFree,
It is an excercise in futility to get PT to answer anything without resorting to his links. Mules are less stubborn than she/he/it is. It is to bad she/he/it always manages to ruin a good thread for the rest of us.
Good point Scoob !
February 19, 2009 - 15:29 ET by Free StinkerGood point Scoob !
I guess I am acting like the guy who kept hitting his head against the wall just because it felt so good when he stopped doing it. ;-)
Prove It
February 19, 2009 - 20:09 ET by PopularTechShow me where Fox News has denounced the story. The fact is they stand behind the story. If I was the one who leaked it, I wouldn't want my name in the public as you would probably receive death threats from Palin supporters.
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PT-you actually posted a link
February 19, 2009 - 10:38 ET by thebutlerdiditsaying Palin smoked pot? Now that is funny. Come on, I have been one of your biggest fans on your AGW posts, and a few others, but to post a Palin smoked Pot link? Dude, no one cares. And I am saying that in the nicest way possible. No one cares about the other stuff, either. People have made their minds up, one way or another about Gov. Palin already. Please, just leave it, ok?
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
→ No can do, butler
February 19, 2009 - 10:46 ET by Cool ArrowHe's still pining for the manly, Mitt Romney.
I'm afraid to say what might be going on there, what with Romney being a socialist, but PT gets all starry-eyed, with that far-away gaze, whenever Romney is mentioned.
Personally, I think we could move on from Palin for awhile except the MSM is so intent on continuing it.
Pot Smokers are Brain Damaged
February 19, 2009 - 20:16 ET by PopularTechI don't support Pot Smokers, sorry. I can't vote for people with brain damage.
Brain Damage - Cannabis Could Increase Risks Of Psychotic Illness By 40 Percent (The Lancet Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis Increases Risk Of Psychosis (British Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis increases risk of depression and schizophrenia (British Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis Triggers Transient Schizophrenia-like Symptoms (Neuropsychopharmacology Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis use 'dulls the brain' (Journal of the American Medical Association)
Brain Damage - Concerns over mental health risk of smoking cannabis (British Journal of Psychiatry)
Brain Damage - Early Cannabis Use Increases Risk of Schizophrenia (University of Otago, New Zealand)
Brain Damage - Frequent Marijuana Use May Affect Brain Function (NeuroReport Journal)
Brain Damage - Heavy Cannabis Use May Lead to Psychotic Symptoms (University of Otago, New Zealand)
Brain Damage - Heavy Marijuana use has a detrimental impact on intelligence (Canadian Medical Association Journal)
Brain Damage - Heavy Marijuana Use May Damage Developing Brain In Teens, Young Adults (Children's Hospital of Philadelphia)
Brain Damage - How Smoking Marijuana Damages The Fetal Brain (Science Journal)
Brain Damage - Long-term Cannabis Users May Have Structural Brain Abnormalities (Archives of General Psychiatry Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana And Alcohol Taken Together Induced Widespread Nerve Cell Death In Brains Of Young Rats (Annals of Neurology Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Damages Brain (King's College, UK)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Is Linked to Brain Damage (The Lancet Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Use Affects Blood Flow In Brain Even After Abstinence (Neurology Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana use in pregnancy damages kids' learning (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Use Takes Toll On Adolescent Brain Function (American Academy of Pediatrics)
Brain Damage - Memory, speed of thinking get worse over time with marijuana use (American Academy of Neurology)
Brain Damage - More Evidence Of Cannabis-induced Psychosis (BMC Psychiatry Journal)
Brain Damage - Scans reveal brain damage from cannabis is like schizophrenia (Albert Einstein College of Medicine)
Brain Damage - Schizophrenia Linked To Dysfunction In Molecular Brain Pathway Activated By Marijuana (Archives of General Psychiatry Journal)
Brain Damage - Skunk smokers 18 times more likely to be psychotic (Royal College of Psychiatrists)
Brain Damage - Smoking Marijuana Impairs Cognitive Function In MS Patients (Neurology Journal)
Brain Damage - Starting marijuana use during teens may result in cognitive impairment later in life (NIH/National Institute on Drug Abuse)
Brain Damage - Teen Drug Use Associated With Psychiatric Disorders Later In Life (NIH/National Institute On Drug Abuse)
Brain Damage - Teen Marijuana Use Worsens Depression, Leads To More Serious Mental Illness (Office of National Drug Control Policy)
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Merely throwing a bib
February 22, 2009 - 06:18 ET by UnsanePop, you know what would happen to me if, instead of my research project, I turned in a bibliography the day it was due and said to my professor "go look it up yourself"?
Good to see your obsessive devotion to Sarah Palin continues though...
(Pre-emption: before you become dumb enough to call me a "member of the Palin collective", whatever that is, right now we have about 1000 days until the first primaries. Much can change between then and now. Am I initially impressed by her? Yes. Will I vote for her? We'll see in 1000 days. Anything can happen.)
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
Excuse my language, but He!!'s Bells, PT
February 22, 2009 - 07:46 ET by thebutlerdiditNO ONE IS ASKING FOR YOU TO VOTE FOR HER!!!!! OR EVEN LIKE HER!! Just to give it a rest, o.k.? I admire the fact you have your principles, it is worthy. But you kind of shove them down everyone's throat. As for Romney, I would LOVE for him to be President, right now! I'd take him over duh1, anyday. I've told you before, multiple times, I like Palin,I've met her, but I don't know if I will vote for her, even if she does run. I might like someone else, better. And I also said, unless Obama is a dismal failure, I hope no one I like runs in 2012. It will be an exercise in futility, and they will try their best to destroy whoever it is. So, please, please just chill with the Palin fanaticism. Some of us really do want to like you, but you are the one making it hard on us......
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Contradiction?
February 22, 2009 - 18:17 ET by UnsaneInteresting. You claim to be a libertarian, yet you are so terribly opposed to drug use. A contradiction, no?
"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!! THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)
Lighten up, PT. Trust me,
February 18, 2009 - 22:21 ET by R D HelmLighten up, PT.
Trust me, Matthew has probably had to purchase boo coo butt loads of extra server space just to hold all the liks you have posted here about Gov. Palin.
Believe me, we have all seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them... and seen them...and seen them... and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them... and seen them...and seen them... and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and seen them...and then some.
Grow a sense of humor, will ya?
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Do you find replacing comments with lies acceptable?
February 18, 2009 - 22:27 ET by PopularTechVideo and images require alot of space not text, all the links I have posted use next to no space. That is irrelevant to the fact that my comment was replaced with a smear.
Why don't you grow some integrity.
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PT... We have had our
February 18, 2009 - 22:40 ET by bigtimerPT...
We have had our differences once in awhile, we hash them out and move on.
I don't know what happened, but if someone did that and inserted something you did not say...well, I just find that sad, beyond contempt.
~Hypocrite
February 18, 2009 - 22:46 ET by choselife3xIn order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
CL3X
February 19, 2009 - 10:40 ET by thebutlerdiditSo, are you saying that all smears should be beyond contempt, not just some?
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
~What can I say......
February 19, 2009 - 10:45 ET by choselife3xI'm a dreamer.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
My comment was replaced look at the replies to it
February 18, 2009 - 22:46 ET by PopularTechThe first few were replying to my comment which does not exist anymore and is replaced with:
"I HATE SARAH PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
If my comments are replaced with smears like this how can anyone trust anything anyone else says here.
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Well Pop Tech
February 18, 2009 - 23:40 ET by shawn228At least they did not say Sarah Palin thinks PT has a small weiner :-)
He had my vote
shawn,
February 19, 2009 - 00:04 ET by R D HelmLOL-Actually, I was about to send PT some Vagisil and some Mydol.
:-^)
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Lol Dave
February 19, 2009 - 00:08 ET by shawn228and maybe some Ex Lax or Preperation H. He obviously has something stuck up the exit as well ;-)
He had my vote
I'm new around here
February 19, 2009 - 01:29 ET by Cool ArrowAnd I like Sarah Palin.
Doesn't everybody?
BWAHAHAHAAA!
Do you find replacing comments with lies acceptable?
February 18, 2009 - 22:56 ET by R D Helm99.99999999876% of the time, I would say no. However, this is a somewhat unique situation.
PT, I am going to level with you, because I think its time you heard the unvarnished truth about the situation as it pertains to you here at NB.
Once upon a time, you were one of the most respected members here at NewsBusters, mostly because of your posts on Noel's, as well as some other contributor's threads regarding AGW.
However, once the AGW battle here began to wane, something happened to you. Maybe it was due to the lack of articles here on that subject, or maybe you were kidnapped by aliens and had implants installed in your head, I don't know, but something went hideously awry.
Maybe it was your BDS, your acute PDS, some combination of both, or whatever, but your credibility here at NB is now (and my apologies in advance to the admins here) essentially shit.
Every single article that is posted here that has to with either Governor Palin or the mortgage meltdown, their associated threads are littered ad nauseam with your incessant spamming of links that, to be honest, and if they actually still work, often tend to contradict your assertions to a certain degree.
This has now brought much of your prior material posted here into question. No one takes you seriously anymore.
Damn sad, if you ask me.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Dave, Here,
February 18, 2009 - 22:58 ET by Scuba DudeDave,
Here, Here.
Well said. Could not agree with you more.
So you support replacing comments with Smears
February 18, 2009 - 23:04 ET by PopularTechYou are a hypocrite.
This is interesting so my reputation is defined by your opinion of me (which is irrelevant) and I can only be in good standing if I believe Palin to be qualified for POTUS and Bush a fiscal conservative? So you decide the collective opinion and everyone should follow it, those that disagree you attempt to smear with this nonsense. YOU DON'T DECIDE JACK ABOUT ANYONE HERE.
My links work and any that do not are fixed. Nothing contradicted anything I said.
Plenty of people take me seriously by the ridiculous amount of emails I get thanking me for posting the information.
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"This is interesting so my
February 18, 2009 - 23:38 ET by R D Helm"This is interesting so my reputation is defined by your opinion of me (which is irrelevant)"
Irrelevant to you, perhaps, as apparently you have little, if any self-respect, but it is the opinion shared by most everyone here, including many of the contributors, not the least of which is our highly respected Associate Editor.
Perhaps you lack the intellectual maturity required to see it, but you have let a lot of us down, especially those of us who once looked up to you.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
my reputation is defined by your opinion of me
February 19, 2009 - 00:17 ET by botgwhat is reputation if not other peoples opinion of you???
if you have a good reputation it is because others have a favorable opinion of you and vise-versa
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
botg,
February 19, 2009 - 00:34 ET by R D Helm"what is reputation if not other peoples opinion of you???"
BINGO.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
~Bingo Brucie Baby!!
February 19, 2009 - 09:23 ET by choselife3xHe hit that obnoxious nail on the head YET AGAIN. All hail Bruce!
Good Obama, I've missed him.....
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Dave
February 19, 2009 - 00:21 ET by shawn228Thank you so much for your post. You don't speak for everyone, but I would say easily the majority.
He had my vote
Shawn,
February 19, 2009 - 01:25 ET by R D Helm"You don't speak for everyone"
Thank God, too, because if it ever comes to that, it will mean it is long past time for me to get the, well, you know, out of here. :-)
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Please
February 19, 2009 - 01:38 ET by PopularTechI would easily say you have no clue.
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LMAO LMAO Pot meet kettle
February 19, 2009 - 01:55 ET by contraryLMAO LMAO Pot meet kettle LMAO
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
Intellectual Honesty
February 19, 2009 - 00:30 ET by PopularTechNo it is not shared by almost everyone here, it is shared by the same Palin supporters who post in everyone of her threads defending her from the liberal media. I know because I receive the emails of those who don't want to post about it.
Forming my own opinion is what I will always do. Sorry is intellectual honesty lets you down.
This is not a collective where some or even a majority decide and everyone else just parrots the talking points. Sorry if my opinion hurts your "feelings".
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Intellectual honesty, PT?
February 19, 2009 - 01:10 ET by R D HelmWhose intellect? Yours, or the authors of the writings contained whithin your seemingly endless string of links that you post here in an obvious effort to shore-up your decidedly shaky positions?
Honestly, have you ever had an original thought or idea of your own?
"I know because I receive the emails of those who don't want to post about it."
Sorry, but emails from your mother, aunt, dog, and the seven people you are holding at gunpoint in your basement don't count. :-^)
As for my "feelings," they haven't been hurt since Old Yeller had to be put down, and that was a full seven years before I popped out into this bass-ackward world.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
I have no shaky positions
February 19, 2009 - 01:37 ET by PopularTechUnlike your opinions I have sources and facts to back up my positions.
Being original and being factually correct are two different things.
The emails are from members here, sorry if that destroys your imaginary fantasy land of Palin support. But there is a reason McCain lost and it wasn't just McCain.
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You have no shakey
February 19, 2009 - 16:44 ET by BDYou have no shakey positions? Huh?
You assert terrorism did not exist prior to 1948 and the establishment of Isreal as a state. You use this position in an attempt to cauterize the failings of Bob Barr and Ron Paul.
This is not a shakey position?
Nope
February 19, 2009 - 20:20 ET by PopularTechIslamic Terrorism did not exist prior to that.
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1.) Please disprove the
February 20, 2009 - 09:11 ET by BD1.) Please disprove the Hebron Massacre, and various POGROM in the middle east prior to 1948.
2.) Please disprove that the Muslim-Brotherhood as led by the Grand Mufti did not perform Terrorism. Please refer to Yassir Arafat in his role as nephew of the Mufti and his actions prior to WWII.
3.) Please disprove the nature of the Islamic Caliphate prior to 1492.
That should give you something to work on... After all, I have given you ample opportunity before.
Anybody else notice Pop Tech
February 20, 2009 - 16:36 ET by BDAnybody else notice Pop Tech runs when confronted with this?
BD... I admit to NOT
February 20, 2009 - 16:39 ET by Clear thinkerBD...
I admit to NOT being an expert on history, but I do know that PT's claim on this is waaaaay wrong. Terrorist bastards like these have been at it for a very long time.
The Cold Hard Truth
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
Yeah, but I have noticed
February 20, 2009 - 16:56 ET by BDYeah, but I have noticed that when PopTech springs onto a board to post his endless series of cut and paste links, all that is required is to note his chosen candidates (Barr and Paul) and their flaws in Defense/Foreign policy issues.
He then pops smoke and runs as fast as his little legs will carry him.
BD, so PT doesn't think there was Islamic terrorism prior to...
February 23, 2009 - 19:14 ET by R D Helm1948?
What an easily disprovable assertion, as the Islamist's rampant terrorism dates back to its founding in the 7th Century.
Given the significance of the year 1948, I wonder if PT here has an anti-semitic streak to go along with his BDS, PDS, and his obvious disdain for the fairer sex?
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
I would not put it past
February 23, 2009 - 20:54 ET by Scuba DudeI would not put it past him Dave. He seems to be an angry little man who hates anyone and anything expcept Bob Barr.
Assassin
February 22, 2009 - 06:35 ET by UnsaneBDs questions as usual are sufficient and spot-on, but here is another that one can roll under his third:
Please explain the etymology behind the English word assassin. Where did it come from?
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The qualifications for President are pitifully small.
February 19, 2009 - 02:50 ET by JWFYa gots ta be born here, ya gots to be of a certain age.
This election came down to a choice between a turd sandwich & a giant douche*.
Most of us voted for the turd sandwich because the giant douche was about as far left as you could go without ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE USSR.
So the turd sandwich picked a rootabaga & booger pie to be the his running mate. Some of us don't like rootabaga & booger pie. Note it. AND MOVE ON. We need to show solidarity against the opposition and his friends in Moscow.
There is one thing that the turd sandwich people and the giant douce people can agree on. Independent/undecided/3rdParty people are nothing but snail slime, the lowest forms of life on earth.
Pick a team fer gawds sake.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
* to borrow from South Park
DP
February 19, 2009 - 20:35 ET by PopularTechDuplicate thanks to server delay
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Thanks for proving my point
February 19, 2009 - 20:26 ET by PopularTechYou people just don't get it. The experience argument was the most effective against Obama and McCain destroyed this by selecting the unqualified Palin. You have no idea how ridiculous you sound stating this.
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I think I do get it.
February 21, 2009 - 00:45 ET by JWF1. A very experienced wisened McCain shot himself in the foot by selecting an unexperienced not so wise VP.
2. We note it. Voice our disapproval. But still get behind the team because the alternative is 73.57 times WORSE.
3. After the initial disapproval, we stay mum about the whole thing because McCain cannot say he made a mistake and select a new VP. THIS WOULD BE SUICIDE. "Oh sorry. I am not even President and I am screwing up. I have only one choice to make before becoming President and I BLEW IT".
4. Come election day. 2 things could happen. McCain becomes President. Then we start discussing the qualifications of the VP again. Or McCain loses and we VILIFY him for making such a huge mistake.
It appears someone got stuck at step 2, and continued to voice disapproval, thereby driving millions of voters into the opposition's camp and now we are stuck with a team that is 73.57 times worse than McCain/Palin.
Personal note: McCain was not my 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice. He bought into the global warming bull, he pounded on Big Business, and he was way too chummy with the opposition. I wrote to the McCain camp with my worries and got behind them. BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE WAS 73.57 TIMES WORSE.
When McCain picked Palin, I was surprised and a little disappointed that he had taken away his experienced argument. BUT I KNEW WHAT WAS DONE COULD NOT BE UNDID. So I accepted it, kept mum, and stayed behind the team. I did see the good side of it though, he energized the base, and that was exactly what was needed.
NOW, we have a guy that buys the global warming bull, pounds on Big Business, screws the opposition, is 73.57 times worse than McCain/Palin, and is looking to be the worst CinC EVER. He has not even visited the 2 million guys he is in charge of. At least I would not be fighting McCain on the CinC part. And CinC is the most important part of the job!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Thank you Dave "America
February 19, 2009 - 00:03 ET by dark_dsThank you Dave
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
PT here is my issue with you
February 19, 2009 - 00:29 ET by dark_dsPT here is my issue with you...... its very simple and I have posted it before ... its the same issue I have with many Trolls and others like yourself .... you SEEM to me that you have no humility .....I dont care if you think Palin is the anti christ .... you carry yourself with little humility and to me that is just plain and simple a character fault .. I have many character faults so I recognize one when I see one....... I am not very religious but you SEEM to be a Clanging Cymbal as the Bible puts it ... I am stretching the usage of the passage .......another issue I have with you .... you SEEM to have no sense of humor .... You on the other hand SEEM far more intelligent than I but what good is that if you have no humility or sense of humor ..... Its good to take inventory of ones self .. give it a shot
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
PT here is my issue with you
February 19, 2009 - 00:30 ET by dark_dsPT here is my issue with you...... its very simple and I have posted it before ... its the same issue I have with many Trolls and others like yourself .... you SEEM to me that you have no humility .....I dont care if you think Palin is the anti christ .... you carry yourself with little humility and to me that is just plain and simple a character fault .. I have many character faults so I recognize one when I see one....... I am not very religious but you SEEM to be a Clanging Cymbal as the Bible puts it ... I am stretching the usage of the passage .......another issue I have with you .... you SEEM to have no sense of humor .... You on the other hand SEEM far more intelligent than I but what good is that if you have no humility or sense of humor ..... Its good to take inventory of ones self .. give it a shot
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
PT here is my issue with
February 19, 2009 - 00:31 ET by dark_dsPT here is my issue with you...... its very simple and I have posted it before ... its the same issue I have with many Trolls and others like yourself .... you SEEM to me that you have no humility .....I dont care if you think Palin is the anti christ .... you carry yourself with little humility and to me that is just plain and simple a character fault .. I have many character faults so I recognize one when I see one....... I am not very religious but you SEEM to be a Clanging Cymbal as the Bible puts it ... I am stretching the usage of the passage .......another issue I have with you .... you SEEM to have no sense of humor .... You on the other hand SEEM far more intelligent than I but what good is that if you have no humility or sense of humor ..... Its good to take inventory of ones self .. give it a shot
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
~I wondered about that....
February 18, 2009 - 22:10 ET by choselife3xIn order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
I've forwarded this to NB Administration
February 18, 2009 - 22:10 ET by PopularTechI've screen captured this and forwarded it to the NB administration.
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yawn and snore "America
February 18, 2009 - 22:14 ET by dark_dsyawn and snore
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
You find replacing comments with lies acceptable?
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no i was just
February 18, 2009 - 22:18 ET by dark_dsno i was just tired
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
dark_ds
February 18, 2009 - 22:35 ET by BarkerThanks for the laugh.
Oh, and nighty night.;^)
~Mmmphrrrgggaaaa
February 18, 2009 - 22:24 ET by choselife3x*stifling comment*
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
I guess that means demerits for us all!
February 19, 2009 - 01:38 ET by R D HelmSo, will we have to stand in the corner? Beat the chalk dust out of the erasers? Wear dunce caps? Wash dishes in the cafeteria after lunch?
LOL-And believe me, I was an expert at that last item by the 7th grade. I mean, sprayers can be great fun if employed properly. :-)
Grow up, PT, and stop acting like a spoiled, bratty child.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Maybe a NB staff member can smear you?
February 19, 2009 - 01:40 ET by PopularTechI am sure you would find that acceptable, regardless I have reported this.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
Maybe you'll get a pardon
February 19, 2009 - 02:05 ET by contraryThanks for sharing though. I'm sure the user community here will back you 100% considering all the good will and productive dialog you have spread here.
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
Only people with integrity
February 19, 2009 - 02:32 ET by PopularTechI am simpy looking for people with integrity.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
Why? You aren't going to
February 19, 2009 - 02:57 ET by contraryWhy? You aren't going to find it on an Internet Forum.
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
It's pathetic.....
February 19, 2009 - 04:18 ET by HillbillyKingthat someone removed and then replaced your comments, PT.
My respect for NewsBusters just went down.
Really, that's what I remember Gavin an his ilk doin to ya over at that climate blog of theirs months ago. Is that what NB stoops too now? Apparently it is. That's sad.
It's dishonest and cowardly. Whoever did it is chickensh!t P@ssy.
And for everyone else, why's it OK for y'all to rabidly praise Palin and not OK for PT to rabidly disagree? So his methods (lists) are different than most? No one complains about em when he uses em for AGW(In fact they praise him). So he's more determined about expressin them than most, so what? I know many posters express their views on certain subjects in a very determined manner, every single time their "subject" comes up. How's PT any different? Oh, that's right...he disagrees with the consensus.
You know folks, there is a place for all of this and it's called The Woodshed. As a matter of fact, I created a Room just for everyone with Palin Defense / Derangement Syndrome. It's called
The Palin Option
Have fun!
(I hope my comment it not deleted)
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Way to show support! I'm
February 19, 2009 - 09:42 ET by contraryWay to show support! I'm glad the PT faction has someone out there. What's the plan besides calling the site administrators "chickensh!t P@ssy?" We have to resist and develop a nutroots movement here. Screw their rules.
/sarc
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
Site Integrity
February 19, 2009 - 21:10 ET by PopularTechYou don't need a nutroots movement here you can simply just replace anyone's comments with smears. I guess those are the "rules".
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
Hell, Pop, they really
February 20, 2009 - 09:13 ET by BDHell, Pop, they really aren't your comments because they are just cut and paste links to OTHERS comments. So why get all upset now?
Yes, Poptech. We know.
February 18, 2009 - 22:38 ET by PeskyDaneYes, Poptech. We know. You've told us... and you've told us... and you've told us...
You've told us... and you've told us... and you've told us...
February 18, 2009 - 22:45 ET by BEGRUNTand you've told us... and you've told us... and you've told us...........OK I GET IT!!!
"Blago got in touch with his inner dirt bag"
Dennis Miller
Dishonest NB Staff
February 18, 2009 - 22:48 ET by PopularTechA loser NB Staff member replaced my comment with that smear. I do not hate Sarah Palin, I find her unqualified for POTUS.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
~She WASN'T RUNNING
February 18, 2009 - 22:55 ET by choselife3xFor POTUS.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
clife3, we mentioned that FACT to him many times.
February 19, 2009 - 00:42 ET by upcountrywaterMc RINO will die in office blah PDS blah PDS blah.
Maybe this will be my tagline: Hello, WTH;s WARNING TO POP TECH
pURPLe pINKy
choselife3x, That shows
February 19, 2009 - 09:00 ET by Scuba Dudechoselife3x,
That shows how much PT is suffering from PDS. If she/he/it can't remember that Gov. Palin was running to be Vice President how can we trust anything he posts?
~Dude
February 19, 2009 - 10:18 ET by choselife3xDid you see that time when PT cited an anti-Palin CNN poll after saying on the same thread that "CNN is a joke"?!
That is some kind of SERIOUS disconnect!
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
~The Queen has SPOKEN
February 19, 2009 - 11:25 ET by choselife3xAll tremble....and obey.
After all, it's not like Palin is more qualified to be a 'heartbeat away' from the Presidency than, oh say...Joe Biden!!
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Or Obama
February 19, 2009 - 11:36 ET by sherylsimsOr Obama
Popular Tech is correct.
February 19, 2009 - 11:07 ET by QueenMumPopular Tech is correct. Since the V.P. is the next in line for the presidency, it's legitimate to have the opinion that Palin is not qualified to be POTUS. In addition, the adoring Palin faithful starting pushing for Palin to run for POTUS in 2012. To suggest that someone who may be a conservative and/or Republican must support Sarah Palin is no different from suggesting that blacks had to support Obama. It's obvious that conservatives/Republicans had no problem complaining about the problems with McCain. Why should it be different for Palin? Either she's a political equal or she's not.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
I am not so sure QM
February 20, 2009 - 10:22 ET by general companyTo suggest that someone who may be a conservative and/or Republican
must support Sarah Palin is no different from suggesting that blacks
had to support Obama
I can not quite make this compairison. What about Mit, Rudy, Huck, Fred, Duncan or any of the others that ran for POTUS? I dont hear endless stories about them in the news. The Palins only offence that I can think of was accepting McCain nod as VP. You can either agree with McCain or not, but either way, it wasnt the Palins fault. Also, even if you or anyone else may think she is unqualified, Mrs. Palin most definitely believes she is fully capable of doing a good job. So I have a very difficult time ridiculing anyone who has shown she can make a differance, and even if her qualifications may be lite, she very well may do an outstanding job. Just take a close look at the qualified folks that are currently running DC, that seems to be working out real well. Does anyone realy believe she accepted the nod thinking she would be in over her head?
PT tells us all about the faults concerning the Palins, like carbon caps. Now that Obama is POTUS, does anyone think they are not coming? Do you honestly think they will be less intrusive under Obama? PT also claims that she doesn't know anything about economics, does anyone really think she would be using the Fed to buy up every thing she can get a handle on like Obama. By the time the primaries got to LA, we didn't have a choice, sure Huck was still on the ballet, but he wasn't going anywhere. Just like going to the grocery, you have to pick from what they have. PT you don't like McCain choice, so what, get over it. With the standards you hold for others, you must be perfectly happy now that Obama and Pelosi are running the show. Also with those standards you hold for others, you must be quite lonely.
BTW I think Mr. Steele is doing an outstanding job as well.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Lingering Resentment
February 18, 2009 - 20:53 ET by pbthinkerThe only "Lingering Resentment" is in the MSM because Sarah Palin showed these feminists for the hypocrits they really are. There is no doubt that Sarah Palin did more good than harm, for the Republican ticket. There was no way she alone could have pulled this off, but it was a valiant attempt on her part.
I hope she runs for the Senate in 2 years and starts raising hell in D.C.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
Operation HAL is in effect
February 18, 2009 - 21:37 ET by R D Helm-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
>>>The claim that Sarah
February 18, 2009 - 22:15 ET by seanrobins>>>The claim that Sarah Palin hurt McCain's candidacy has been refuted by
various sources including, coincidentally enough, The Washington Post.
Yes, I agree! Sarah Palin played an ENORMOUS role in John Mccain's defeat . . .
She caused it to be not NEARLY as horrendous or embarassing as it would have otherwise been.
And now a word for all of those who honestly though that John McCain's candidacy was a good thing: SCREW YOU!
sean robins
blog.seanrobins.com
I am eternally
February 18, 2009 - 22:48 ET by Scuba DudeI am eternally grateful that McCain picked Gov Palin as his running mate. That act introduced her to the rest of the country and proceeded to energize the Republican Party.
And the constant attention the media is giving her because they are terrified of her only makes her look better.
GO SARAH!!!
Scuba
February 18, 2009 - 23:03 ET by SvenAnd the constant attention the media is giving her because they are terrified of her only makes her look better.
Exactly right! They've won the election, McCain lost the election, and Palin went back to Alaska, but yet they still obsess over her...very strange. Fear will make people act irrational!
As I mentioned earlier today on this thread; if Palin does decide to run (she has a new pac), the attacks she received from the left during this past election will seem like childs play. The left will unleash all of their rage, slander and venom at this good Lady and her family. What they don't understand is, this will engage the conservative base in a very powerful way!
Keep posting these stories Drive-bys: I want to see your fear!
Sven, I am looking
February 19, 2009 - 09:08 ET by Scuba DudeSven,
I am looking forward to seeing Gov Palin continue to drive the left nuts in the coming years.
I truly feel that of the 4 people on the ballot she was more qualified than any of them to be elected to either spot.
If the GOP can get some more people like her into top spots in the party this country may just start heading in the right direction.
Here's the truth in simple terms
February 19, 2009 - 00:08 ET by talkradio55Without Palin, McCain would have been the Republican Walter Mondale.
Wrong WaPo... The reason
February 19, 2009 - 02:31 ET by JebsterWrong... The reason McLame lost is because of his liberalism and backstabbing of conservatives and the Republican party. Sarah Palin is the ONLY reason he did as well as he did!
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Prepare for the coming revolution
I said her a couple of times, I met Palin. She is a very
February 19, 2009 - 11:06 ET by thebutlerdiditnice woman, and very sharp in her natural speech. I said that I supported her as VP, and that I agreed she needed to become more media savvy, more aware of the workings of politics on a national level. However, historically, most governors are not that savvy past what goes on at a state level. This is fine. It is their job. I don't think replacing PT's post was the best idea, kinda funny because we all knew it wasn't his, but I think if you guys want to end the copious links, I would just warn him, and then if I didn't like his posts, then ban him. But, it's not my site, or really any of my business. Just my $.02.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
here,not her
February 19, 2009 - 11:14 ET by thebutlerdiditDouble Post
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
The only problem I have
February 19, 2009 - 11:18 ET by cocodrieThe only problem I have is John McCain was too heavy for to drag into the winners circle.
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