In an Associated Press article written by Julie Watson and published today, we learn that "Mexicans deported from US face shattered lives." The piece begins:
TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — The towering black gate opens silently to an alley with walls of corrugated metal. Scrawled in large white letters on one wall is: "The End."For those deported from the United States, the words are an unnecessary reminder. Nearly every hour of the day, guards unlock this gate that leads back into Mexico, clicking open the padlocks hung on each side, in each nation.
Every time the gate slams shut, it wipes out a dream, divides a family, ends a life lived in the shadows of the law.
We later read:
In a week spent at the Tijuana gate, The Associated Press watched busload after busload of deportees arrive, some in a daze, still stunned over their sudden expulsion. Many stumbled over the Mexican official's question, "Where are you from?" after spending decades in the United States.
The faces of those who stream through reflect how tough and far-reaching the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigration has become.
The article details the experiences of several illegal immigrants sent back. One is Nestor Ortiz, who's being sent back for the third time in ten days. In his last entry into the U.S., he injured his leg and feet in a 20-foot jump from a wall. Ortiz received treatment at Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego. The reporter doesn't indicate who paid for that treatment.
Ortiz calls his two sons in California:
"I'm not coming back," he says, choked up as he talks to his 17-year-old son by phone from Tijuana's Salvation Army shelter. "I can't walk. Both my feet are in bad shape."He asks Juan to consider moving to his hometown of Tlalnepantla, on the edge of Mexico City.
The conversation turns tense. Juan has lived in the United States since he was 7 and doesn't want to leave his friends.
"I think you should not be alone over there," Ortiz says, sighing. "Finish high school and then you can come here. At least here you have your grandparents, your cousins. Over there, what do you have?"
Ortiz breathes in deeply, holds his brow and reels in his overwhelming grief.
He tells his other son, 23-year-old Nestor, to cancel his father's gym membership, put the Chevrolet Suburban in his name and take Juan to live with him.
Fortunately, reeling from the overwhelming grief didn't keep him from forgetting to cancel the gym membership and transfer the SUV's title.
Obviously intended to evoke sympathy for the plight of illegals sent back, the article makes little if any mention of why these people find themselves in such difficult circumstances. It's because they broke American law. They are uninvited intruders.
All the heart-wrenching anecdotes in the world don't change that most important fact. The unhappy people described by the AP are responsible for their own plight. They broke the law. It's a point worth highlighting. The AP didn't.
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OMG! That's all I can get
August 24, 2008 - 21:13 ET by Clear thinkerOMG!
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Be still my heart......I'm
August 24, 2008 - 21:32 ET by bigtimerBe still my heart......I'm in tears!
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Tears for fears
August 24, 2008 - 21:36 ET by Mike Bates...I'm in tears!
I'm more into jeers on this kinda stuff.
OMG!
August 24, 2008 - 21:37 ET by Mike BatesOh the humanity. . .
Well, boo friggin' hoo.
August 24, 2008 - 21:35 ET by R D HelmActually, I hope we see even more stories like this, as it will indicate that this country is starting to get at least a little serious about deaing with this massive problem.
I'll know its actually working when I am able to hit my local QuikTrip in the mornings, get my 20 oz. refill of Colombian brew (good stuff, that is) and get out the door without feeling like I had just defended the line at the Alamo.
I hope to experience that before John McCain gets elected and grants them all amnesty.
-Dave.
McCain and amnesty
August 24, 2008 - 21:38 ET by Mike BatesI thought he was - if you'll pardon the expression - moving on from that nonsense.
Not a chance Michael
August 24, 2008 - 21:41 ET by Cool ArrowGive him a Democrat Congress, and he'll give them the reach around on amnesty.
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CA... ...Bingo! "America
August 24, 2008 - 21:49 ET by bigtimerCA...
...Bingo!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt, President McCain with a dem congress...
August 24, 2008 - 22:06 ET by R D Helm...scares the hell out of me.
As you will recall, the threads here at NB lit up in a big way when McCain's amnesty bill was up for a senate vote. I tend to think of that debate as one of our finest hours here at NB.
I had hoped at the time that that was the end for McCain forever as a force in the republican party, as his poll numbers were circling the bottom of the toilet. Sadly, it wasn't.
Remember, McCain was hand-picked for the republican nomination by the liberal MSM. That was no accident.
Its just too bad that so many republicans were deceived into believeing that McCain was something other than the closet-liberal we all know he is.
-Dave.
LOL Dave...of course I
August 24, 2008 - 22:24 ET by bigtimerLOL Dave...of course I recall ...misterb...and quite a few others of us worked our butts off to get that defeated as much as possible...that was a night to celebrate with each other as we did...it took quite awhile, I loved it when we (I'm speaking of us here, plus ALL of americans who were outraged) got the phone lines shut down for a couple of days where they were swamped with calls, although some of us had been doing this for weeks as they attempted to sneak this sham through...
Then Reid trying to sneak in the Dream Act not too long after that...that was precious and short lived as soon as the internet had it spread...and all americans that cared went to work once again to let congress-critters know how they felt....
...and they will never quit unless we keep vigilant about it, regardless of who has control of congress...via the internet thank God.
Sure wished I would of saved that thread for a couple of days.
Ahhh...memories.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
closet-liberal we all know he is.
August 24, 2008 - 22:24 ET by Mike BatesCloset liberal or not, he's infinitely superior to B. Hussein.
Michael, I trust McCain about as far I could throw Teddy K.
August 24, 2008 - 21:55 ET by R D HelmWhich is to say, not very.
This man once seriously considered moving to the dark side party-wise. Truthfully, I wish he had, as the Republican Party would be far better off without him.
He has said that he "heard" the voice of America as it relates to granting amnesty to the illegal invaders, but he has yet to come out in 100% opposition to it. Until he does, and backs it up with actions commensurate with that, I ain't buyin' it.
McCain has reached across the aisle to the point that he is approaching giving himself, if not this nation, a hernia.
-Dave.
yeah Dave
August 24, 2008 - 22:00 ET by candanceTo borrow a phrase from my mom, "I wouldn't trust him to safeguard a bottle of Pepsi."
Teddy K.
August 24, 2008 - 22:00 ET by Mike BatesTossin' Teddy Boy wouldn't be easy. The guy deserves his own zip code.
There's speculation he might show up at the convention.
Hey Dave.... This is
August 24, 2008 - 22:04 ET by bigtimerHey Dave....
This is where I miss postin with misterb...
Calling misterb....come in please!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt, me, too.
August 24, 2008 - 22:23 ET by R D HelmAfter all, misterbill has such a way with words. :-)
LOL-I guess the thought of a McCain presidency has become just too much for the guy. Come to think of it, it has for me, as well.
God bless misterbill.
-Dave.
Tijuana
August 24, 2008 - 21:50 ET by Solrac7My wife is from T.J. Big differance though! She came here legally and has never taken a nickel from the government!!!
For all you other whiners, "If you can't do the time, Then don't do the crime"!
San Diego's resources are stretched thin from the onslaught of the illegal invasion. Our infa-structure is in decay, yet our hard earned money is going to illegal aliens who rob us of our services. And you should see the filth that they leave behind in our open spaces; backpacks, sweatshirts, water bottles, tin cans, crap. It is dangerous to go out into the back country unless you are armed for fear of running into drug smugglers. And, in my neighborhood east of San Diego, high speed chases with cars/vanloads of illegals attempting to evade the Border Patrol and causing horrendous accidents with bodies lying all over the place.
But the clowns from Border Angels, a so-called humanitarian group who has water stops around the Mexican Border thereby attracting illegals to them, says it is our fault. And the media is right there sucking up to them. Jeez, I didn't invite them in. That guy and his group should be arrested for aiding and abetting a federal crime. Round them all up and let Mexico take care of them. I'm ready for a revolution!!
Of course Solrac7
August 24, 2008 - 22:24 ET by DEVILDOCMOMwe have the same problems in Tucson...we have water stations in the desert placed by similar groups. I can't tell you how many 911 calls the Border Patrol receives from illegals in the desert wanting to be picked up.
What concerns me more are the increasing incursions by MEXICAN POLICE/MILITARY on US soil. A couple of weeks ago they held a Border Patrol agent at gun point-and he was in uniform in a marked vehicle. This is not an isolated incident.
We have similar "heart wrenching" stories placed in our papers regarding illegals picked up and how their children are left behind to fend for themselves. We also have the same horrendous MVA's, except in Tucson we only have ONE trauma center-the other has gone out of business for trauma. We also have a shooting or death at least every day-all with Mexican names and usually drug related.
This story? Can't happen to a nicer group of people.
oh the horror!
August 24, 2008 - 21:48 ET by candanceCriminals might actually have to face consequences for their actions? Well we can't have that!
I'm just surprised the AP didn't find some way to blame it all on Darth Cheney.
It's all Bush-Cheney's fault
August 24, 2008 - 21:57 ET by Mike BatesI'm just surprised the AP didn't find some way to blame it all on Darth Cheney.
Well, Julie did write: "U.S. deportations have jumped by more than 60 percent over the past five years."
Hmmm. Who's been in charge for that period? Hmmm.
About darn time!
August 24, 2008 - 21:56 ET by SpockAll I can say is, don't let the corrigated fence hit'ya where the good Lord split'ya!
This is very unnerving "He
August 24, 2008 - 22:00 ET by Dan The Man 2This is very unnerving "He tells his other son, 23-year-old Nestor, to cancel his father's gym
membership, put the Chevrolet Suburban in his name", I mean how does an illegal alien get a title in his name in the USA? I am assuming he does not have credentials, at least not legal. Any reporter worth his salt should have picked up on that and investigated the acquiring of illegal papers and why the local gendarmes who should be responsible for enforcing are not doing so.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Investigating
August 24, 2008 - 22:03 ET by Mike BatesAny reporter worth his salt should have picked up on that and investigated. . .
I'm sure the AP is running an exhaustive investigation this very minute.
Snicker..
August 24, 2008 - 22:11 ET by DEVILDOCMOMSnicker.
Come on, Dan!
August 24, 2008 - 22:10 ET by BlondeAny reporter worth his salt should have picked up on that....
Is there A, ONE, reporter worth his (her) salt left in this country?
I'm thinking not.
And while I'm at it...is anyone watching the silly stuff on the beginning of tomorrow's D convention?
Sheesh!
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Conventional, Blonde
August 24, 2008 - 22:19 ET by Mike Batesis anyone watching the silly stuff on the beginning of tomorrow's D convention?
I'm gonna wait for angryafrican's incisive analysis.
nah Michael
August 24, 2008 - 22:23 ET by candanceAA is off doing big important corporate stuff that only nine other people in the world are qualified to accomplish. I'm sure some other KosKid will eventually find this, and then we'll honored with another amazingly smart and powerful, ahem, nonliberal.
candance, AA may be only one of ten people...
August 24, 2008 - 22:26 ET by R D Helm...who can do whatever it is he does.
LOL-Wonder if the rest are in the slammer. :-)
-Dave.
MMBates.... Come
August 24, 2008 - 22:30 ET by bigtimerMMBates....
Come on...shhh...aa got fed enough to last quite awhile with his usual troll-fest...don't induce him...pretty please...some of us have been there and done that with the troll before...it isn't worth the time.
Well, just my two cents.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Induce
August 24, 2008 - 22:32 ET by Mike Bates. . . don't induce him. . .
Wish his Mom hadn't.
MMBates... LOL... ....th
August 24, 2008 - 22:37 ET by bigtimerMMBates...
LOL...
....that makes two of us!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Uh, yeah.
August 25, 2008 - 02:27 ET by SchnikeysSo I just "lol"-ed.
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Sorry, Mike
August 24, 2008 - 22:37 ET by BlondeI'm policing up boxes....they've taken over!
But yeah....the conventional wisdom is, um, kind of (how shall I say this nicely) STUPID!
Too bad it's not in Chicago...where you could give us a first hand accounting.
The only person I know who lives in Denver is an ultra-left liberal....alas!
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
yes Blonde
August 24, 2008 - 22:19 ET by candanceIt reminds me of Jesus entering Jerusalem on Palm Sunday with the masses gathered to greet him.
Palm Sunday
August 24, 2008 - 22:22 ET by Mike BatesIt reminds me of Jesus entering Jerusalem on Palm Sunday with the masses gathered to greet him.
No shortage of asses in Denver.
ha!
August 24, 2008 - 22:24 ET by candanceThat post needs a spew alert!
Spew alert
August 24, 2008 - 22:28 ET by Mike BatesThat post needs a spew alert!
Most of 'em from over here do. Or so I've been told.
J,
August 24, 2008 - 22:30 ET by R D Helm...is anyone watching the silly stuff on the beginning of tomorrow's D convention?
Actually, I'm waiting for the real fun to start. You know, like when Broom Hilda swoops in on her broom and tries to steal the whole show.
Barry-O messed up big-time giving the Clinton's so much time at the DNC.
Big fun, this will be.
-Dave.
Yeah B... I'm going to be
August 24, 2008 - 22:41 ET by bigtimerYeah B...
I'm going to be watching/listening to the silly stuff starting tomorrow...
I'm a political junkie...I have to know what the enemy within is saying without a msm sound-bite that pleases them.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Geez, BT
August 24, 2008 - 22:54 ET by BlondeI thought I was a political junkie.
You, my friend, should be an analyst. Seriously.
I bet you'd put down any one of the talking heads we get to see on a daily basis on the dinosaur media in a New York second..
I'd love to see you say something like..."yes, but what about Representative X's vote on Z....or Senator N's repeated attempts to push O".
You'd demolish Chris Matthews in about four seconds.
I know you can't stand McCain...but maybe we could plant you in one of the "Town Halls". OMG, that would be awesome. It would be worth it to see Barry melt like the Wicked Witch of the West.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
LOL B... That would be
August 24, 2008 - 23:06 ET by bigtimerLOL B...
That would be fun.
Now I can remember when you didn't even want to watch the debates way back....it was a waste of time so you said, let alone the Sunday shows...you can't say that you haven't been addicted/curious either to a point...I've seen you change some with time.
One thing about it...like I have always said, before the internet and sites like NBs I have been used to the msm spinning and taking sound-bites they want to broadcast to the masses for their own agenda...watching them do this way back on the big satellites with just interviews they thought nobody would see, let alone their comments and language...from which said interview they would pick and then decide to put on the nightly news was simply eye-opening to say the least.
I love the internet...thank goodness for NBs and friends.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Actually, BT
August 24, 2008 - 23:17 ET by BlondeI think you & Noel ought to team up....maybe on Glenn Beck. It would be awesome.
Seriously, though....when I got divorced about ten years ago, I became a politcal junkie, too. I watched CSPAN all the time.
That's the first place I ever saw Joe Lieberman...there was some kind of stand-up comedy roast or somesuch in the middle of the night...with pols and news people (a pretty blonde who has since disappeared...Cynthia Oxnard?).
But I remember thinking Joe L. was a funny, and honest guy (even though I knew he was a dem). And believe it or not, I was a BIG McCain supporter in 2000.
That was the bad old days, though....the internet is the most amazing thing that has ever happened to politics, and to the stupid news, too. Now that I've just typed that...think about it.
If this were 1996, would we have a clue that Obama was such an idiot....if we didn't have the internet? We'd be stuck with CSPAN as the only fair outlet for news (which it was, admittedly, then)....but who else was watching?
I know (and must regretfully admit) that I believed what I heard on the nightly news back then. I thought Peter Jennings was the bees knees.
Thankfully, I grew up. Okay, done with my rant.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Well, bt
August 24, 2008 - 23:46 ET by DEVILDOCMOMTry not to let it get to you too much. I have to admit I may have some of it on, my problem is that I start to yell at the TV and it bothers my husband. :)
Is anyone else of being called the bad guy or racist?
August 24, 2008 - 22:31 ET by jefflebowskiI'd love to see the Old Media do a report on American lives that have been shattered by illegal aliens driving drunk, murder, rape, robberies, etc.
But it's always Americans who are the bad guys. Here in Dallas, 75% of the babies born in Parkland Hospital are born to illegals without insurance. Those kids will go to schools paid for by bad ol' Americans.
Is anyone else tired of being the bad guy or the racist?
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.c...
Jeff.... Yes....past
August 24, 2008 - 22:34 ET by bigtimerJeff....
Yes....past tired of it.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
When they come
August 24, 2008 - 23:50 ET by DEVILDOCMOMthru the ER where I work and speak spanish to me, I tell them I do not speak spanish, that it is American and they need to learn English. I am polite and do not discriminate, but I know one day someone will complain about me.
Maybe get yourself a new
August 24, 2008 - 23:53 ET by Eileen RightMaybe get yourself a new nametag, I'd suggest "No Habla"...
Not me Dude.
August 25, 2008 - 00:27 ET by HillbillyKingIf, by their(MSM/liberal), definition my behavior makes me a bad guy and/or a racist, then I am, in fact, proud of that label. It means that I am indeed being an American and not some indoctrinated opinion clone that derives joy from belittling those ideals that made America great.
The greatest irony of it all is how the manufactured opinion outlets bemoan the USA's standing in the world and how far we have fallin(Like Barrys ball an chain talkin bout being proud) and yet people risk death trying to get into this country. I mean, if we suck so bad, shouldn't people be crossin the desert to get the f@ck out?
But, of course, I'm a bad guy and a racist so what do I know. :-}
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Oh, my heart bleeds!!
August 24, 2008 - 22:33 ET by PrairieSkyEvery one of these deported illegal immigrants, and that is exactly what they all are, ILLEGAL, a fact that AP never addresses, has only themself to blame. I have no sympathy whatsoever for any of these people. They are (or were) in this country illegally. They broke the laws of the United States, and are now suffering the consequences of their actions.
Poor Mr. Ortiz... What a shame that he has to cancel his gym membership, and transfer the title of his SUV...Both of which he never should have had in the first place, because he doesn't belong here!!!! If he wants to come back to this country so badly, as he obviously must since he keeps sneaking back in, then he should apply for citizenship and get in line like everyone else who wants to become a LEGAL citizen of the United States.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American people. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Questions, oh I have questions...
August 24, 2008 - 23:48 ET by thebobboHad to cancel his gym membership? What, don't they have pilates in Mexico? And he's driving a Suburban??? Where's Al Gore when you need him? What kind of carbon footprint must this guy have had?
And what's more, he has (at least) two sons living here in the States? Does that make poor Juan an illegal when he moved here at age 7? Or his brother Nestor? But of course we can't punish the children for the sins of their fathers.
At least Pops appreciates the value of an (American) education, before he wants Juan to sneak back across the border to Mexico to be with his family.
Three times in ten days, huh? Fell off a 20-foot wall and banged up his feet pretty bad. Guess that gym membership wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
Hey bobbo,
August 24, 2008 - 23:58 ET by BlondeWe have pilates here in Florida....we call it mopping the tile floor!
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde
August 25, 2008 - 00:03 ET by Cool ArrowYou sure it isn't called "washing the hands" as in "Pontius Pilates"
I'm still confused about Spearchucker.
I ♣ my seal
No, No, Cool.
August 25, 2008 - 00:19 ET by Blonde"Pilates" is an expensive exercise deal....the L.A. ladies spend megas on it.
However, my mom & I just laugh...every time we clean the house...we do "pilates".
As for Spearchucker....look up MASH the movie on IMDB...
I can't believe I even posted on this....it's sick!
Chalk it up to watching the best of SNL today....where Chevy Chase & Richard Pryor did the "ink blot" thing.....SOD, that was hillarious!
"Spade"...."Honky"...."Jungle Bunny"...."Double Honky"....N***er"...."DEAD HONKY".
Back when we could kid about racism, instead of taking every little off color (oops) remark as an indictment of our characters.
Okay...I'm out.... wrestling with a coffee table. It's going to look great or it is going to the curb in the a.m.
Night'O.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I was thinking of the
August 25, 2008 - 06:52 ET by Dan The Man 2I was thinking of the spearchucker on Revenge of the Nerds.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
"Three times in ten days,
August 25, 2008 - 07:01 ET by SarahAnnie"Three times in ten days, huh? Fell off a 20-foot wall and banged up his feet pretty bad."
Should have done a PLF.
Nebraskans for War: Peace through Strength
Nestor, guess you'll have to
August 24, 2008 - 23:51 ET by Eileen RightNestor, guess you'll have to get your feet taken care of for free in Mexico. Whats that, they want cash up front? Just go to any ER, I'm sure they're mandated by the Mexican government to provide world class treatment for free. Good luck with that and Adios, guess we won't be seeing ya in any illegal immigration marches soon.
The distruction in CA
August 25, 2008 - 09:23 ET by GoodieI have posted this before, however it says it all for California.
State Slogans:
Missouri -"Show me State"
No Carolina - " A better place to be"
Iowa - "Life Changing"
California - "Press 1 for English"
AP, get real
August 25, 2008 - 10:01 ET by CobraMan"Mexicans Deported From U.S. Face Shattered Lives."
I think that those Mexicans faced a shattered life BEFORE coming to America and this is WHY they came here illegally despite knowing that, at any time, they could be caught and deported.
"The towering black gate opens"
Dude, have you been watching the Lord of the Rings again? This is America, not Mordor.
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
The problem is in mexico
August 25, 2008 - 12:36 ET by sajc05This story should highlight the failures of mexico as a country. Instead of trying to make americans sympathetic and sad that we enforce our LAWS do some investigative reporting on how corrupt that country is and lay the blame for these people being separated from their families on Mexican leadership.