Chicago Sun-Times: Tight Poll Numbers 'Work For Obama'

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Chicago Sun-Times columnist Carol Marin today explains "Why polls aren't worrying Obama's team."  As it turns out, there are several reasons:

Obama can certainly lose this race. But McCain's going to have to find a better way to win it than by invoking Paris Hilton or by sniping in his most recent ad how "life in the spotlight must be grand but for the rest of us, times are tough."

What's tough for McCain is that despite having had a practice run at the presidency once before, it didn't limber him up, cause him to realize that even the elderly now skillfully navigate the Internet or help him craft a "vision thing."

In the short run, jealous jabs at Obama for having too much face time on the covers of Rolling Stone and GQ may appear to close the gap in national polls. But the aggregation of images -- Obama in Germany, Obama with his cute girls and beautiful wife, Obama visiting his grandmother in Hawaii -- is by dribs and drabs helping America feel familiar with him, visualize him on foreign soil, and see him, perhaps, as both human and presidential.

In some ways the tightening numbers work for Obama, not against him.

"No cause for panic," said Kupper (one of Obama's political flacks). No, indeed, he's off to splash in the Pacific surf with his family.

Hallelujah!  It's gonna be OK.  Sure, Obama is running against a party that has terribly low approval ratings.  Obama has enormous financial backing.  Obama receives unprecedentedly favorable coverage from a mainstream media eager to serve as his lapdogs most of the time.

And yet, and yet. . .  the race is extraordinarily close at the same time he should enjoy a huge lead.  So it's great that media types can assert McCain isn't limber.  He's not an Internet wiz and doesn't have a "vision thing."  But Obama's pregame victory lap in Germany, his cute girls and beautiful wife, his visiting his typical white person grandmother and other things will ultimately turn things around.

In the media, hope springs eternal.       


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Keep telling yourself that,

Keep telling yourself that, Carol. Don't worry that you should have a landslide by now.

Only in your dreams

Only in your dreams Carol....only in your dreams.

Btw...thank goodness the guy is on vacation...wished he would stay there until the first of Nov.

I am so sick of Obama all the time.

b>"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Dreamin'

Only in your dreams Carol....only in your dreams.

No doubt BO is in her dreams.

bt, I'm shocked, I tell you,

just shocked. Why isn't the failing media covering his vacation? Don't we, the public, have a RIGHT to see his every move, hear his every word. They certainly are not doing their journalistic duty. LOL

Only in your dreams

Only in your dreams Carol....only in your dreams.

Btw...thank goodness the guy is on vacation...wished he would stay there until the first of Nov. or better yet the 12th of Never. 

I am so sick of Obama all the time.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

BT, you are so right

What else would we expect MSM hacks to say?  Would they prefer a runaway for Obama?  Noooooo.  No, they want a tight race.  Hah!

They are running scared because they know they are in trouble.  Once the debates start and Obama says who knows what while bumbling like an idiot, he'll be in real trouble.  But the MSM will say that's exactly where they want him to be...lol. He'll be a fighter, a comeback kid overcoming blatant racism, etc.  I believe he will lose soundly as the people in the middle states are not idiots like those in California and the Northeast.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.com

Only if serious questions

get asked of the candidates. They'll probably ask something like" What does it feel like to be so old/young..."

My concern is that there will be no real questions asked of either candidate, only "puff questions that will allow Barak to go off on a tangent and display his obvious oratorical skills.

He has no oratorical skills

He has no oratorical skills unless the answer involves a subject that he has addressed in a prepared speech, and he remembers what he said verbatim.

Here's what he sounds like when unscripted.

 

 

Debates

. . . Obama says who knows what while bumbling like an idiot. . . .

Maybe they'll let him bring his teleprompter.

GMTA, Michael...see just

GMTA, Michael...see just above your comment. LOL

Hi Jeff... You can also

Hi Jeff...

You can also be sure after each debate the talking heads will all say Obama won that one...have their poll numbers at the ready....

It is amusing to watch them all anymore, we already know what they are going to say afterwards, we see right through their games...glad the voters do too most of the time anyway.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

clarification

In some ways the tightening numbers work for Obama, not against him.  Why?  Because I'm in the MSM and I say so!

100% wrong

"...is by dribs and drabs helping America feel familiar with him"

That's why Obama's chances of being elected go down a little every day the campaign drags on.  People are getting familiar with him, and they don't like what they're finding.  Also typical non-voters who might support him, like youths, are slowing losing their enthusiasm and might not end up voting at all.

There's also the problem of Obama over-polling.  If the polls show a state as a toss-up, I'd give the edge to McCain.  Why do they think close polls are in Obama's favor?  There's little to support that.

What a bunch of Moe-Rons!

What a bunch of Moe-Rons! Bradley effect is about 8 points. I hope the polls ARE close!

  MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe, then confirming it with a poll.

The media wing of the Obama

The media wing of the Obama campaign (aka "the media") is really going to be sweating when the PA polls get down to about 4%.

And if Pelosi keeps it up with the clueless elitism, we might be looking at Republican pink-ups rather than a Democrat landslide.

polls

 

Didn't the polls give Ohio to kerry and Florida to Gore? Two complete loosers.  MSM = mighty stupid media

 

Buy Buy Osama Obama your Mama. 

Yeah, and I don't think the

Yeah, and I don't think the pollsters called the 10 point losses for Obama in the PA and OH primaries either.

Carol seems to be whistling

Carol seems to be whistling past the graveyard. Then again that's a Chicago graveyard.

 

First, kill all the lawyers.

-Wlm Shakespear

Dem "landslide"

The way the media talks about the Dem "landslide" that is coming in Nov. what I'm wondering is why Barry isn't 15 pts. ahead. Could it be that the great "silent majority" is at work here? Is there someting most people are not saying? Are most Americans being fooled by this clown and his media lemmings? Or is it just the opposite?

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Graveyards

Carol seems to be whistling past the graveyard. Then again that's a Chicago graveyard.

In Chicago,of course, graveyards represent a significant portion of the overall Democratic vote.

Polsters have no idea

In '04 election, Bush was way behind in the polls, but pulled off a rather impressive win, proving polsters pretty wrong. So if Obama-McCain numbers are tight, and '04 is any indication of the bias in the polls, then one realizes McCain really has the advantage.

Pollsters' predictions

And there were predictions that the 1980 election was too close to call.  That was the one RR won with 44 states.

Obama's method of polling

Are polsters using a tire gauge to measure voter's tendencies?

Are polsters using a tire gauge to measure voter's tendencies?

No wonder why their results are "overinflated"!

If you want to get familiar

If you want to get familiar with bambi (aka 57 states) read, "The Obama Nation."  It is number six on Amazon.com.  "The Case Against Barack Obama" is right behind it. 

The American people are waking up to this socialist with his hate mongering, racists, hate America friends.

 

Russians

Once a commie, always a commie. The Russians are at it again in Georgia. Worldwide Communism is on the rise. Barry is a Communist. The polls don't indicate that Americans are aware of this. Wake up America!

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Oh! Bama

The Russians are at it again in Georgia.

And did you notice how quickly Obama became the 'Ugly American' (who he complains about) and stuck his nose in the affairs of another country, telling Russia how to handle itself. Guess that's one of the 'traditions' he wants to bring back. Quite amusing.

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

Worked for Kerry

Why shouldn't it work for Obama.

On the cover of the Rolling Stone

I'm going to paraphrase a bit here, but I think Dr, Hook said it best:

We got a lot of little teenage [google]-eyed groupies
Who do anything we say
We got a genuine [political] guru
He's teachin' us a better way
We got all the friends that money can buy
So we never have to be alone
And we keep gettin' richer [and we got] our picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone

Rolling Stone
[Gonna] see my picture on the cover
Rolling Stone
[Gonna] buy five copies for [grand]mother
Rolling Stone
[Gonna] see my smilin' face
On the cover of the Rolling Stone

 

People should remember that a Rolling Stone gathers no votes.

Perfect CobraMan!

I forgot about that song - it should be Obama's theme song. It describes his "rock star" way perfectly and he's been on like three covers of the RS (or more) already.

Thank You

Thank You. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions Obama and Rolling Stone magazine.

On a side note, I’d like to change ‘little teenage [google]-eyed groupies” to “little netroot googlized groupies” but I can’t edit it anymore. You get the idea though.

I agree.

That's perfect!

Ann Coulter hit the nail on the head when she said that we have so many Democratic rock stars that actual rock stars are now referring to themselves as Democratic candidates!

How about "We got a lotta media google-eyed groupies" ?

I Second

I Second that....

...excellent Cobra...got a good chuckle too...

Forgot all about that song...now ya' got me humming it.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

me too BT

it's a great song. I'm surprised that this is the first it's been brought up. McCain should do a commercial with it if he can get the rights. Or a conservative 527 should.

Hey Dee... Now that is a

Hey Dee...

Now that is a great idea....you just know somebody from the McCain campaign reads NBs...or is posting here to-boot!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

They would probably be too chicken though BT

it's unfortunate because it would be great. Maybe Shy and Jack could do something.

Hey Dee... If you see one

Hey Dee...

If you see one of them before I do mention it...they would do a great job...I have missed hearing any of their work...although they may be too busy....how dare they!

Got to remember which thread this is for them though, just in case they can...lol.

Cobra's words would be great. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

MrShy!!!!

Hey MrS....

Please read above and some below here...

Glad to catch you before I leave....promised I would mention this to you or Jack...regardless....I am doing so...got to get pretty quick, but I think this would be great if you guys could ever get the time to slip this in...you guys work well together...adn it would be so precious, plus who knows, it may make it to the campaign somehow.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Jack Bauer !!!

Hope you get this post... Dee, BT and friends have a mission for us, should we choose to accept it! :p I'll send you a PM, too... 

They want us to do something cool/funny with the Rolling Stone / Obama song that CobraMan came up with... you doing the video, and me covering the music.

Take a look up and down this thread for more info... 

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

Are you in. Or are you

Are you in. Or are you out.

Yeah -- I'm in!

If anyone has any Obama news clips from TV on their PC (or good sources) let me know and I'll give you the links to upload to me. Looking for fluffs, gaffs, contradictions, preening.

Could be FUN!

CREDITS FOR ALL who contribute.


NO Crap. NO Way. NObama.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

Hey Jack

Yes, I'm still awake at 6 am NYC time.... don't ask :p

I learned recently that YouTube actually has a feature where you can download the video clip. Have you ever done this? If you can, then you can easily grab a whole bunch of them... :)

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

It's the city and the Mr

It's the city and the Mr Shy that never sleeps!

11.22 here and I'm just ready for my mid-morning freshly baked croissant, summerberry jam and mug of hot, strong, black Joe.

No.. I'm not being racist Mr Obama! Thanks for the tube tip.

I've already downloade some other infamous RS covers alumni, Amy Winehouse,could make a nice little subliminal montage.

If anuyone has any good ideas, Youtube links, message me or Mr S. at NB and I'll check them out.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

Jack & Sarc !!

This is a really good one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs

It's got all the real goodies, including Wright, etc., AND, has great excerpts from the audio version of his book! Lots of stuff about "white people".... man, does his book ramble on and on about whites and race....

 

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

You should try to shoehorn in

The clip of Obama calling the female reporter "Honey," if you can cut it short enough to keep what he says within the rhythm of the original song. And has anyone else noticed that the song's drug reference keeps getting clipped on terrestrial radio? (Demand for cocaine sure hasn't changed much since the song was popular!)
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

MrS and

MrS and Jack....

HOORAY!

I wondered if you were going to catch this before I closed out last night MrS...

I am so looking forward to what you guys put together...

I am tickled pink....

You just never know where all this could go......heheheee

Thanks to all, Cobra for the work, Dee for the idea of getting you guys to do it...and me....just because!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Just in case

Just in case they DO see it, here's my final version (because, well, it's getting old)

I’ve got a lot of netroot googlized groupies
Who believe everything I say
I am a genuine socialist guru
Who’s preachen’ 'em a better way
I get all the coverage that the press can supply
While they leave the other candidate alone
And I keep gettin' richer 'cause get I picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone

Rolling Stone
You get to see my picture on the cover
Rolling Stone
While I scan-dal-ize my own grandmother
Rolling Stone
Have you seen my smilin' face
On the cover of the Rolling Stone

Will do Cobra.... I like

Will do Cobra....

I like the final version...a lot.

You may see them first also.

Boy it would be great if they could do something with this....

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Thay you

Thank you.

(and it should be 'cause get I my picture and not "cause get I picture." That bit blackhole hit me again and swallowed up a few charaters. Heh.)

Right MB - John Edwards was one too

thats why the Dems are always after the youth vote. They are so gullible and easy to lead. It's all about the coolness factor and nothing else for them really.

 

Have to rephrase: We

Have to rephrase:

We gotta lotta little media google-eyed groupies..

Who will do anything we say....

yes MB - it's not just the youth

It's them and all the people who never grew up. Media and other celebrities who learned everything they know from high school. They are still so fixated on what is "in" and cool that they don't know how to think for themselves. They will always be immature followers.

Rolling Stone Update

Here's an updated version:

I’ve got a lot of netroot googlized groupies
Who believe everything I say
I am a genuine socialist guru
Who’s preachen’ 'em a better way
I get all the coverage the press can supply
While they leave the other candidate alone
And I keep gettin' richer 'cause get I picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone

Rolling Stone
You get to see my picture on the cover
Rolling Stone
I’m gonna buy five copies for grandmother
Rolling Stone
Have you seen my smilin' face
On the cover of the Rolling Stone

Granny

Without changing the beat - which is good because you can dance to it - maybe the line could be:

I’m gonna buy five copies for my typical white person grandmother

 

Drive the bus?

How about: "While I drive the bus over grandmother"

The youth vote is not all

The youth vote is not all its cracked up to be:

1). "Damn - the election was YESTERDAY?!"

2) "You mean I had to register AHEAD OF TIME?"

3) "Nah, I don't feel like it right now - maybe we can go later. How late is it open?"

Here's what they should be asked

Here's what they should be asked, for the young men anyways:

Before we accept your voter registration card, have you sent in your Selective Service registration card yet?

Teenage moods.

LMAO!

It's true.

 

------------------------------------------------------------

"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"

Cover of Rolling Stone

 Then there's. . . 

We got a genuine (socialist) guru
He's teachin' us a better way

 

Great idea

"I am a genuine socialist guru"

Thank you, I just added that.

"In the media hope springs

"In the media hope springs eternal" says it all.  IMHO Obama will win.  But I love watching the liberal media trying to cover for, explain, agongize over his horrible performance so far.  With the war and the economy and the media PR, Obama should be up by at least 10-15 points.  He isn't.  There is a reason.  It isn't McCain.  It has to do the faults and limitations of Obama.

Obama has faults?

There is a reason.  It isn't McCain.  It has to do the faults and limitations of Obama.

The only "faults" we hear about are things like:  He's too smart. he's too popular, his wife is too beautiful. . . . 

His wife is too beautiful??????

Uh, yeah, maybe in an airbrushed photo on the cover of People or Vanity Fair magazine!

In real life, she's just an average-looking black woman.

And that semi-permanent pout of hers doesn't help one bit!

Average-looking black woman

In real life, she's just an average-looking black woman.

And that semi-permanent pout of hers doesn't help one bit!

Maybe, but that bandolier she sported on the New Yorker cover did quite a bit for her, don't you think?

BTW, you may wish to be careful with that "average-looking black woman" thing.  It's a civil rights lawsuit in the making.

Oop! Mea maxima

Oop! Mea maxima culpa!!

OK, how about if I change it to an "average looking woman who happens to be black"?

Average, mb

OK, how about if I change it to an "average looking woman who happens to be black"?

Not bad, but just to be safe I'd suggest you go with an  "average looking woman who happens to be of color."

Liberal logic - LOL

"In some ways the tightening numbers work for Obama, not against him."

So it follows that as the trend continues, and McCain pulls ahead, then Obama will really have McCain where he wants him.

And, then, when all all those "bitter" swing-state Democrats get one last indepth look at Obama's insane "roots" in Chicago (thanks to the 527's), McCain will be finished for sure.

Parker, "So it follows

Parker,

"So it follows that as the trend continues, ..."

My thought exactly.

So, just to get it straight, according to Marin, the more the public is exposed to Obama, the more his lead over McCain diminishes and the better that is for Obama because... the public becomes more familiar with Obama and that's good because it causes the poll number to tighten which is good because ... What?

Because...

"So, just to get it straight, according to Marin, the more the public is exposed to Obama, the more his lead over McCain diminishes and the better that is for Obama because..."

...the more McCain gains in popularity, the better his chances of becoming President. This will allow the Obama supporters to cry foul when Obama loses and those angry supporters will FINALLY rise up against the capitalist pigs in charge and a new People’s Army will overthrow the [s]elected government and install a communist government, with Obama as the new Stalin.

As an added bonus, Marin, of course, will be appointed the Minister of Information in this new, "progressive" government.

Ministerette of Information

As an added bonus, Marin, of course, will be appointed the Minister of Information in this new, "progressive" government.

Oprah probably thinks she's got a lock on that gig.

CobraMan, That's my

CobraMan,

That's my problem - I didn't think Marin's argument through to its logical conclusion.

By the way, Marin has earned herself a couple of Peabody Awards over the years. I hope this last piece isn't a typical example of her level of work.

Carol's Peabody

By the way, Marin has earned herself a couple of Peabody Awards over the years. I hope this last piece isn't a typical example of her level of work.

Other Peabody recipients have included Dan Rather, Norman Lear, and Oprah Whose Last Name Is Unnecessary.

Cracker Jack and Franken Berry

So, apparently Peabody Award's are avaiable in boxes of Cracker Jack and Franken Berry?

Cracker Jack and Franken Berry

So, apparently Peabody Award's are avaiable in boxes of Cracker Jack and Franken Berry?

Maybe in the boxes on the left side of the shelf.

Yea, Mr. Jack and Mr. Berry

Yea, Mr. Jack and Mr. Berry strike me as liberals - Count Chocula, however, is definitely a conservative.

Count Chocula - conservative.

Most of us guys who sport opera capes most days are pretty conservative I think.

Are you sure it wasn't a

Are you sure it wasn't a Peabrain Award?

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

what 527's

I don't know if you've noticed but this is the time for a big 527 ad to air. And it aint airing.

 This was the time the Swift Boat ad came out.  So far we've got MoveOn's crap; where's our 527?

 I don't think it's coming.

I read a report on Politico that said high powered Dems were threatening legal action against people who would fund a 527 against Obama.  They threatened legal action, as well as digging through their personal life to destroy their credibility.

Carol Maroon

I've known Carol Marin for decades. She's nothing but a Leftist troll. Now she's an Obama troll.

for whom the belle trolls

I've known Carol Marin for decades. She's nothing but a Leftist troll. Now she's an Obama troll.

Not a big transition obviously.

LOL... You beat me to

LOL...

You beat me to it...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Sillier and sillier

Carol, if McCain's attacks are silly (a premise I don't accept), then you've just out-sillied him.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Polls, smolls!

There is only one poll that counts. And the more biased and anti-substantial the MSM news coverage is, the more worthless the pre-election polls are.

Poll coverage is more speculative than global warming predictions. But, hey, the MSM has to throw out some kind of garbage in order to continue justifying itself.

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

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