NBC’s "30 Rock" has always been a left-leaning show and manages to insert a joke or negative generalizations at the expense of Republicans into many episodes. Thursday night's episode was no different.
When conservative GE executive Jack Donaghy (Alec Baldwin) and his liberal Congresswoman girlfriend, Celeste Cunningham (Edie Falco) blow off a day of work; Cunningham misses an important vote on a bill to "legalize recreational whale torture."
This might seem like a harmless little joke attributable to either party; however, it is a clear reference to Republicans in the next scene as it cuts to C-SPAN live on the floor of the House with the caption "Lott-Specter passes by one vote."
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The show constantly tries to depict Republicans as cruel and what better way to do so than by suggesting Republican Senators Trent Lott and Arlen Specter like to torture whales for fun?
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Well Why Not
January 11, 2008 - 18:28 ET by allanfWell when Democrats were busy freeing the slaves and passing the Civil Rights Act, Republicans were out there trying to take away Grandma's Social Security, so the fat cat corporate executives could live a little better.
Do I have the Democrat Party line down?
Does this mean Inuits are murderers?
January 11, 2008 - 17:01 ET by Lame CherryConsidering the KKK Clintons, KKK Cuomo are currently recovering from their own Imus nappy head moments, should not 30 Rock figure it out that they have just insulted the Inuits who kill whales for food.
If it is Republicans torturing then it is Inuits murdering whales according to dappy headed liberals.
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Comedy ain't for everyone.
January 11, 2008 - 17:01 ET by balboaComedy ain't for everyone.
Are you speaking to us, or
January 11, 2008 - 17:32 ET by Roger the ShrubberAre you speaking to us, or to Tina Fey?
LOL ---> because there's an
January 11, 2008 - 18:41 ET by tracheostomyLOL ---> because there's an element of truth to it?
or. . .
LOL ---> because that's the conservative stereotype?
or. . .
LOL ---> satirical jab at how libs see conservatives?
Back in their day, minstrel shows were considered entertaining as well.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Your latter two suggestions
January 11, 2008 - 18:43 ET by JasonCYour latter two suggestions are dead on. I'm finding it thoroughly amusing that anyone could be seriously offended by this. It's so obviously mocking those who buy into stereotypes of Republicans. I guess it comes to a point for some conservatives where they're so delusionally sure the MsM is making fun of them that any mention of the word "republican" has to be laboriously interpreted as an unironic insult.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I am offended that Arlen
January 11, 2008 - 18:49 ET by Roger the ShrubberI am offended that Arlen Specter would agree to such a partisan bill. :p
(honestly, that was kinda funny, and I have watched 30 Rock more than once. I am glad they managed to make a funny for once!)
No Jason. I'm thoroughly
January 11, 2008 - 18:53 ET by tracheostomyNo Jason. I'm thoroughly convinced that Baldwin and Co. hate Republicans that much. So I'm backing option #1.
Note that I was open-minded enough to consider all options. Have you ever heard Alec Baldwin's personal hatred of conservatives/republicans?
I have. He really hates 'em man and he's campaigning an agenda of pure blind hatred; not dialogue. He's got a lot of help too.
It's open hatred masquerading as satire. Because that's the classic liberal Hollywood defense, "You don't see it's only satire, because conservatives are humorless."
But I saw the options Jason. I also saw where the so-called "satire" was pointed. And liberals are clearly not laughing at themselves.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
I'm aware of Baldwin's
January 11, 2008 - 19:06 ET by JasonCI'm aware of Baldwin's stance. But I'm sorry, there's just no need to be offended by this. Keep your chin up.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Ah, but you haven't told me
January 11, 2008 - 19:14 ET by tracheostomyAh, but you haven't told me why I need not be offended though. Who's mocking whom? Who's the butt of the joke?
Is it so deep and obscure a joke that there is no real target?
Is this just an in-joke among liberals?
C'mon step-up Mr. Pep-talk. Where'd you get all that confidence to patronize me with?
Seriously, here's your fair chance at being honest Jason. Don't blow it and discredit yourself to other demonstrably open-minded individuals.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
I wouldn't be offended
January 11, 2008 - 19:25 ET by balboaI wouldn't be offended because it's a joke on a half-hour comedy. The show also makes fun of liberals, and I laugh at those as well.
I'm sorry Balboa. That's
January 11, 2008 - 19:33 ET by tracheostomyEdit: I'm mixing my fallacies. Balboa is doing an example of what? Just because they do it to libs makes the joke directed at Republicans fair?
The absurdity is misleading in it's extremes.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
The first part of my
January 11, 2008 - 19:33 ET by balboaThe first part of my statement still stands: It's a joke, and so absurd a joke as to not warrant getting upset over. No one ACTUALLY thinks Republicans want to torture whales, if that's what you're concerned about. :-)
1. There are many who
January 11, 2008 - 19:41 ET by tracheostomy1. There are many who really believe Republicans enjoy torturing whales. I'm not imagining that.
2. Therefore, is it possible that there are also many who wish to pander to that audience in order to further their agenda against the right?
I'd say so. However, there are those with better research on this than I.
3. I understand it's absurdity, but what is the purpose behind it? What/whom are they mocking, and why? What's wrong with making a literary analysis out of 30 Rock?
4. True satire has a purpose behind it; a message to teach the target a moral lesson. What is the moral lesson that 30 Rock is trying to teach us through it's ever-so-sharp witted use of satire?
I get the joke. Furthermore, I get the satirical subtext. Do you?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
1. If you say so. 2. I don't
January 11, 2008 - 19:47 ET by balboa1. If you say so.
2. I don't think a sidebar joke in a half-hour comedy is enough effort to be considered pandering. And I don't think 30 Rock is interested in pandering; they're interested in being funny.
3. The purpose? To make an absurd joke for laughs. They're mocking the notion that Republicans are mean.
4. I don't seriously think that the writers of 30 Rock were trying to teach a moral lesson. If anything, I'd say JasonC was on target: the show likes to characterize Republicans as mean. So let's make fun of that by showing a bill that's so over the top mean as to not be believed.
1. LOL. I can't talk
January 11, 2008 - 20:00 ET by tracheostomy1. LOL. I can't talk anymore, I'm seeing your fingers are going into your ears.
2. It's not and you're right. You're right that it's just one joke.
But I'm sure there's someone out there adding them all up. Pandering well involves more than just one hit. You have to hit over and over and over. I'm sure there's a few links on past "jokes" such as this one.
Wait for the next blog on the next joke Bal, and we'll watch you isolate that one in relation to all the others m'kay? Great, I'll see you then.
3. Thanks for being honest with this one Bal. It's an unfair caricature against an philosophical ideal IMO. Did I mention it was a cheap shot as well? Oh yeah, I guess I did.
4. Then it's not satire and therefore blatent open mockery.
Pick one and stick to it Bal. It's called consistency. It will prove to us you are a trustworthy speaker here on NB. Thanks for your help.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
The bottom line: They were
January 11, 2008 - 20:07 ET by balboaThe bottom line: They were making an absurd joke to be funny, playing on the idea that Republicans are all mean.
Thanks Bal. That
January 11, 2008 - 20:19 ET by tracheostomyThanks Bal. That dovetails nicely with the dialogue I just ended with Jason. Thanks for repeating it as well for others here at NB to hit the "printscreen" key with.
The idea is that all Republicans are mean. Yes, that is the bottom line. That is the audience the jokes are tailored to. Buy our GE products. Stay tuned for your local news.
Refreshingly honest for a change.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
But, again, I don't see it
January 11, 2008 - 20:23 ET by balboaBut, again, I don't see it as something to be upset about, unless you really want to.
You shouldn't be offended
January 11, 2008 - 19:37 ET by JasonCYou shouldn't be offended because:
1. The joke is so obviously targeting people who buy into stereotypes regarding Republicans' reputed "cruelty". But even those who do buy into that wouldn't think they'd propose a bill allowing the torture of whales. Note how it has two liberal warhorse keywords: "torture" and "whales". It is clearly targeting closed-minded libs.
2. Jokes frequently are, and should be, made about political parties and their vicissitudes.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Jason: The joke is so
January 11, 2008 - 19:48 ET by tracheostomyJason: The joke is so obviously targeting people who buy into stereotypes regarding Republicans' reputed "cruelty".
How so? Or is this the interpretation you're attaching to it based on individual viewer fiat?
But even those who do buy into that wouldn't think they'd propose a bill allowing the torture of whales.
Everyone? Balboa seems to agree with this as well. Everyone's a lot of people there guys. That's a very broad indictment thyar. Wouldn't you agree? What about immigrants watching the show. What about middle schoolers? They could choose to research it, or take the "clever humor" for it's own authority.
Note how it has two liberal warhorse keywords: "torture" and "whales". It is clearly targeting closed-minded libs.
Then why couch the joke as delivered by Republicans? Why couldn't it have been re-written to mock puppet Dems proposing a bill to end recreational whale torture? I find that equally hilarious.
I'm saying look at the clowns chosen to play out the mockery. Why name actual names of actual senators?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
So we should just eliminate
January 11, 2008 - 19:52 ET by JasonCSo we should just eliminate political humor altogether, I suppose? Even if I conceded that this joke was aimed at Republicans for the benefit of those who dislike Republicans, rather than vice-versa (which I do not), I'd still laugh at this idea that it's all part of a liberal media conspiracy to slander Republicans at every turn.
And geez, how stupid do you think immigrants are?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
See my other post on
January 11, 2008 - 20:14 ET by tracheostomySee my other post on this. I partially agreed with you. I clearly made no such endorsement of eliminating all political humor, as long as it pointed to clearly proven behavior.
At some time or another, you gotta ask yourself if these people are just in entertainment for entertainment's sake, or do they believe they serve a wider purpose? Ever been to the Oregon Shakespeare Festival? I have. It's "just" healthy entertainment. . .yeah-yeah heard it before. Read the program flyer. Look at the sponsors. No agendas here. I watch PBS all the time. The most respected writers are the ones with something to "teach the masses."
And did I say immigrants were stupid? Or am I saying someone not well-acquainted with the culture were in danger of being "fished in" by the message that Republicans (and their representatives) were mean. . .just as Bal stated?
Nice try Jason. I'll let you save face with the last word. It's the least I can do.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Jokes frequently are, and
January 11, 2008 - 19:51 ET by tracheostomyJokes frequently are, and should be, made about political parties and their vicissitudes.
I agree. As long as it is something they are demonstrably contradictory or hypocritical about.
But "whale torture" points absolutely nowhere, and it's nothing but a cheap shot pandering to the extreme left.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
But "whale torture" points
January 11, 2008 - 19:56 ET by JasonCBut "whale torture" points absolutely nowhere, and it's nothing but a cheap shot pandering to the extreme left.
No...it "points" to the absurdity of stereotyping republicans along such lines. I guarantee you, if I watched this with my most virulently anti-Republican friends they would not laugh. They'd probably just call the joke lame, but I think mostly they'd clam up at how it pokes fun at their beliefs.
Look, we're obviously not going to agree on this and are talking in circles.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
How? The clowns in the
January 11, 2008 - 20:06 ET by tracheostomyHow? The clowns in the example are not liberals. Your buddies are safe. Why would they squirm when nothing is even pointed at them? They can laugh in total safety.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
You've already lost face
January 11, 2008 - 20:31 ET by JasonCYou've already lost face with your histrionics. Now we have to tailor our political humor to the understanding of immigrants? This from the side of the ideological spectrum that says immigrants should irrevocably assimilate to our culture?
Yeah, that's it, GE is out to slander your beliefs and dupe immigrants into being leftists. That's the kind of long-shot hail-Mary theory that usually gets written up with derision on this site.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Your buddies are safe. Why
January 11, 2008 - 20:34 ET by JasonCYour buddies are safe. Why would they squirm when nothing is even pointed at them?
Because their overwrought liberalism is implicated. Have you ever read The Onion (there's a story about them on NB today, in fact). This is the kind of humor they use all the time. Not Republican-mocking, but presenting over-the-top scenarios that are satirical toward the kind of person whose beliefs are being hyperbolized.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
JasonC
January 12, 2008 - 13:28 ET by RESTLESS 1"I'm aware of Baldwin's stance. But I'm sorry, there's just no need to be offended by this. Keep your chin up."
If I can't tell Native Americans they shouldn't be offended by mascots, then why would you assume that it is okay for libs to tell conservatives they should not be offended by idiotic sitcoms?
Tell Native Americans
January 12, 2008 - 13:38 ET by JasonCTell Native Americans whatever you want. What on Earth makes you think I care? The fact that most of you still think this joke is directed at Republicans and not those who stereotype them just further demonstrates conservatism's basic ineptitude for comedy. Which certainly explains NewsBusted.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
The constant jabs at
January 12, 2008 - 13:45 ET by RESTLESS 1The constant jabs at conservatives in shows like this lead us to our conclusions.
Btw, why do you always reference Newbusted as proof of the humorless conservative? Nobody here argues the point that it is not lame.
Does anyone remember
January 11, 2008 - 22:15 ET by obxrayDoes anyone remember Baldwin's outburst saying that sen. Henry Hyde [R].needed to be killed and his family.That was at some rally a while back. Guess I don't have much sence of humour.
Was that part of a half-hour
January 11, 2008 - 22:18 ET by balboaWas that part of a half-hour comedy?
boa... I remember the
January 11, 2008 - 22:31 ET by bigtimerboa...
I remember the episode with Baldwin's insane hissy fit that he is talking about...if the situation were reversed with people and party alliance the person in Baldwin's place would of had their career destroyed...it wasn't funny...at all.
It was on Letterman or Leno or something and Baldwin was serious.
I don't remember the
January 11, 2008 - 22:34 ET by balboaI don't remember the incident, but I'm sure your recollection is correct.
I thought the previous poster was trying to draw a comparison between this joke on 30 Rock and a rant on a talk show, as if the intent of the two were the same.
Baldwin statement
January 11, 2008 - 23:12 ET by well99http://en.wikipedia....
Yes it is wiki but it has the info.
To anyone "offended" by
January 11, 2008 - 19:09 ET by balboaTo anyone "offended" by this.
It is offensive Bal
January 11, 2008 - 21:06 ET by well99It was Dems that were found guilty of waterboarding whales.Everyone knows that.Ask Bubbles.
well99
January 11, 2008 - 21:21 ET by Cool ArrowDon't you mean "airboarding" whales?
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January 11, 2008 - 23:05 ET by well99Does that make them airodynamic?
Our secret shame. We were
January 11, 2008 - 21:58 ET by balboaOur secret shame. We were just trying to save those whales from themselves.
Well
January 11, 2008 - 23:03 ET by well99ACLU has been contacted as has PETA.Then again PETA may have some nude actresses have a demonstration.All whale that ends whale.
Left wing Whalers
January 11, 2008 - 23:41 ET by Cool ArrowRemember Paul Beluga's famous article about "The White and the Blue Whale States"
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Paul Beluga
January 12, 2008 - 00:38 ET by well99I thought he was a fertilizer salesmen?He seemed to peddle alot of it.
Just wondering...
January 11, 2008 - 17:03 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveSo it's not O.K. to torture whales for fun...is it O.K. if I continue to do it in the name of science instead? or for diversity's sake?
And yet, it's liberals who
January 11, 2008 - 17:09 ET by Jack BauerAnd yet, it's liberals who blubber in public all the time.
Actually I do watch 30 Rock and think it's a hoot. Even the excremental Baldwin is fquite funny on it.
Bal, I can
January 11, 2008 - 17:21 ET by AppyAmericanBal,
I can only marvel at your nescience.
Silly "30 Rock" writers.
January 11, 2008 - 17:33 ET by Roger the ShrubberSilly "30 Rock" writers. Arlen Specter is a RINO, not a whale.
Funny gag shrubbo. Check
January 11, 2008 - 20:09 ET by Jack BauerFunny gag shrubbo.
Hot damn!
January 11, 2008 - 17:59 ET by drillanwrNow, where'd I put my trident and harpoon?
"NBC's '30 Rock' Suggests
January 11, 2008 - 18:36 ET by ckc1227"NBC's '30 Rock' Suggests Republicans Like to Torture Whales for Fun"
Awww, COME ON. Sure, we like to pick on Rosie every now and then, but torture?
In the next episode...
January 11, 2008 - 18:40 ET by Prester John...I'm sure, in the spirit of fairness, they'll have her present for a vote to uphold partial birth abortion, because, really, aren't whales and unborn children of more or less the same value?
Isn't there just the
January 11, 2008 - 18:40 ET by JasonCIsn't there just the slightest possibility that the over-the-top absurdity of this joke is so extreme that one could read it as a parody of leftist conceptions of Republicans rather than an indictment of Republicans?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
No. Not a chance in
January 11, 2008 - 19:23 ET by Jack BauerNo. Not a chance in hell.
And why not? "He was, and
January 11, 2008 - 19:37 ET by JasonCAnd why not?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Because liberals really are
January 12, 2008 - 13:35 ET by RESTLESS 1Because liberals really are not that bright or deep. To them, these over the top beliefs are absolutely true. Just like my over the top belief that all liberals are lilly livered, yellow, baby hating, America bashing, elitist pieces of ... Oh never mind. ;>)
Save the whales!
January 11, 2008 - 19:21 ET by ammo johnWhat's wrong with torturing Rosie with TRUTH and FACTS?
ammo... ROFL! I just
January 11, 2008 - 19:52 ET by bigtimerammo...
ROFL!
I just saw yours after posting mine below...now that was FUNNY!
Only comment I have about
January 11, 2008 - 19:50 ET by bigtimerOnly comment I have about any of this is that at least half of Bills passed are the biggest jokes on the tax-payers...and some to be near the absurdity of this made up Bill.
In both parties.
I haven't caught 30 Rock so I will not comment on that...I haven't watched it because of Baldwin but if friends like Jack like it I may have to try and remember...a laugh is a laugh we all need it now and then...I am used to the republicans looking like the cold money hungry cruel evil people in this country fron La-La Land...doesn't mean I don't still get very angry, lose respect or quit watching something because of it either.
BT -- I do like it.
January 11, 2008 - 20:05 ET by Jack BauerBT -- I do like it. Certainly beats the hell out of Joey. They have a few gratuitous slams at Reps, but all the fictional show writers are all "liberal" dopes, and all the "artists" are insane.
Despite themselves they just can't make the only depicted "Republican" character (played by Baldwin) unlikeable. He is very good, pains me to say.
I'm guessing they are going to have to make him switch to being a Democrat. Like they did with James Spader's charcater in Boston Legal in Season 2.
Poor Joey...I really wanted
January 11, 2008 - 20:10 ET by balboaPoor Joey...I really wanted to like that show, but it was bad.
They should have taken Chandler and Monica and spun them off. Lots more neuroses and foibles, with those two dealing with parenthood, suburbia, etc.
I'd just like another five
January 12, 2008 - 14:03 ET by Jack BauerI'd just like another five seasons of ENTOURAGE.
But on the subect of ex-Friends, Lisa Kudrow's THE COMEBACK was outstanding.
Painful. Cringe-worthy, but hilarious.
Republican Jokes
January 12, 2008 - 00:50 ET by candanceWe stopped watching network TV a while back because of the constant jokes aimed at Republicans and conservatives in general. Yes, I know sometimes shows take a few jabs at liberals but the balance is not even close.
Just about every sitcom these days has the obligatory gay character, nonstop dirty jokes, as much profanity as they're allowed and if there's a Christian character that person is always annoying. No I'm not calling for censorship but I vote with my TV and turn it off.
If some are not offended by this, that's fine. But I guarantee if Hollywood did a skit about a Reid-Murtha bill to torture aborted babies for fun, liberals would be rioting in the streets.
torturing aborted babies?
January 12, 2008 - 01:08 ET by shawn228I would hope anybody would be offended by a skit to torture aborted babies candance.
I do really respect the fact that you show your displeasure with network tv, by simply turning it off instead of trying to impose you will on other people and go on a crusade to take certain shows off the air.
Romney time machine
shawn
January 12, 2008 - 01:36 ET by candanceI always throw in the censorship disclaimer for you. :p If Tila Tequila has taught me nothing else, she has taught me that.
What's the difference in saying liberals torture a mass of cells vs conservatives torture animals? Would that not be a satirical exaggeration of how NBers see liberals?
candance
January 12, 2008 - 01:43 ET by shawn228If I have learned anything on NB, a fetus is not just a mass of cells. Even though I am on the fence on abortion, I find nothing funny about torturing fetuses. There is a difference.
Romney time machine
You're getting there, Shawn
January 12, 2008 - 01:51 ET by Cool ArrowI'm just curious, though. Is torturing a fetus more or less depraved than torturing a puppy?
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Cool Arrow
January 12, 2008 - 01:56 ET by shawn228Hi Cool Arrow, nice to see you dropped the symbol. I am not sure if your question is sarcastic or not, but just in case it is not, both cases are pretty disgusting, but most fetuses develop to be human so torturing a fetus is worse.
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Well, Shawn
January 12, 2008 - 02:06 ET by Cool ArrowIf you keep that outlook the Libs won't love you much longer. You may as well join the movement of mutual respect. The Conservative side.
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respect that shawn
January 12, 2008 - 01:52 ET by candanceBut even in light of the Michael Vick thing, it's okay to joke about Trent Lott torturing animals?
Vick tortured dogs, this
January 12, 2008 - 02:01 ET by shawn228Vick tortured dogs, this barbaric act still happens in this day and age. Whales are killed for their blubber and meat, but I have never heard of a whale being tortured. It was just tongue and cheek.
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Huckabee's son tortured dogs
January 12, 2008 - 02:06 ET by PopularTechA Son’s Past Deeds (Dog Torture) Come Back To Bite Huckabee (Newsweek)
Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
Hey PT... I forgot about
January 12, 2008 - 16:33 ET by bigtimerHey PT...
I forgot about that I heard a little bit somewhere about that and was going to check it out on the PC...but my PC was down and I forgot about that situation..so thanks for the link.
This is entertainment now?
January 12, 2008 - 13:13 ET by clifcrdsThe one and only time I saw an episode of “30 Rock” was over the holidays when I was forced to watch what everybody else was watching. The whole episode was nothing but a series subliminal of jokes, slams, and insults aimed at President Bush, the military, and conservatives subversively packaged as an innocent sitcom. At the end of the show I was waiting for Nancy “San Fran Nanny” Pelosi and Harry “The War Is Lost” Reid to appear and state “The Democratic Party approves this sitcom”. The whole thing made me want to puke! If there was a silver lining to this dark cloud it was the fact that I was reminded why I quit watching the alphabet networks long ago!
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What episode were you
January 12, 2008 - 14:21 ET by balboaWhat episode were you watching? I'm just curious.
Because to Balboa, it just
January 12, 2008 - 16:28 ET by tracheostomyBecause to Balboa, it just one joke. C'mon sourpuss, can't you take one lousy joke?
Now he will attempt to shift the goal-posts with, "C'mon sourpuss, can't you take one lousy episode?"
When will we be chided for an entire season, Bal?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
It's a simple question. I'm
January 12, 2008 - 21:35 ET by balboaIt's a simple question. I'm not looking for a "Gotcha" situation here.
us whing liberals trach
January 12, 2008 - 22:28 ET by shawn228My God, he is asking a simple question. What are you calling him names for? That is one thing I do notice about this site, Yes it does give liberals a chance to voice their opinion. but just like Noel says a New York Yankee club might not be fair to Red Sox, fans I get it.
Still, I notice that ratio extremely strong in the favor of conservatives on this site. For the little over a yr I was on this site, I saw some conservatives banned. Debra and Tumbler, but they had it coming. The other was a very popular member of this site. His banning I believe to be totally bogus, he said a few things that might have been misintepreted and taken out of context.
How many liberals have been banned? Rhayes, Proffessor Truth, Montana Lyons, Hater, Dave High. Yes some had it coming and I never comment on global warming debate, because I do not know that much about it but as a fellow liberal pointed out to me, Tokyo Tom did not seem trollish as all.Some were banned on the first day so I do not even remember their names.
I appreciate the mods on this site to let people like myself, Syrius, Leon, JasonC, Balboa, Clever pig and Jer post on this site. Hope I did not forget anyone.
Like I said, I understand the rules but there is sometimes blatant favortism in here. I really don't know how to say this without it sounding like a back handed compliment. I like Sports Politics. He is a good guy and a very unique individual. I really admire him because it does not matter what party you are with, he will rip you a new one either way. Okay that being said, usually his debate style is to post something like moran, fool. And usually write something as long as the Book of John or Unsanes theorys. "Just spit it out man"
He gets away with murder, If it was Proffessor Truth did some his comments, they would be deleted very quickly. Anyways I got that off my chest. Thx Trach:-)
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shawn
January 12, 2008 - 22:48 ET bywhere did PJ call Bal names?
GoHunter08
"C'mon sourpuss, can't you
January 12, 2008 - 22:59 ET by shawn228"C'mon sourpuss, can't you take one lousy joke?"
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Shawn
January 12, 2008 - 23:01 ET bythat's putting words in Bals mouth. Read it over, it is written as if Bal is saying that to trach
GoHunter08
Exactly. I was
January 12, 2008 - 23:12 ET by tracheostomyExactly. I was puppeting. I don't believe there is a single case ever where I directly resorted to actual name-calling. Mostly because this is a PG-13 site. =D
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Trach
January 12, 2008 - 23:17 ET by shawn228I'm not trying to make a case out of it trach. botg is just asking me to point it out.
btw
why do people call you PJ? Or they call Sarcasmo JMR. I don't get it.
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