Open Thread: Another Dismal Jobs Number
Today's starter topic: The unemployment rate is continuing to hold steady as the economy seems to be stagnating. Just 80,000 jobs nationwide were created in June.
While headlines like this will make it onto conservative blogs, they aren't likely to create a big splash in big media outlets dominated by liberals. As NewsBusters has noted, the media were overwhelmingly negative about an unemployment rate of 5.4 percent when George W. Bush was president. A direct comparison of unemployment rates from Ronald Reagan's first term and Barack Obama's term has yielded similar liberal bias about joblessness.
Given that the media are less likely to spread negative news about the economy under a Democratic president than they are under a Republican, will this fact be enough to protect Obama from people's own direct observations of unemployment?
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Damn You George W. Bush!!!
Submitted by bigdaddy on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:46am.
Thought I'd beat Baracko to the punch.
Not only will the media NOT spread negative news
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:47am.
....They'll run with the lies that so glibly come out of the President's mouth...."jobs are returning"....and "the private sector is fine", and never question his statements.
The Emperor has no clothes.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
B, Noel is all over Chuck
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:00am.
B,
Noel is all over Chuck Todd on Twitter on how Chuck handled the jobs report by pivoting to Romney and health care.
I can't get links due to Twitter is blocked at work (for good reason :-) ), but those of you that do have Twitter go over there and give heck to those libturd "journalist".
It's a fun way to push back at these scum sucking weasels.
Thanks, that sounds like fun
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:05am.
I do have a Twitter account, so maybe I'll amuse myself with that for a while.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I was hitting back at this
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:23am.
I was hitting back at this stupid lib on Hannity last night, Julie Roginsky. Monica Crowley schooled her on the debt. And she was getting into an argument with another person about the Judeo/Christian values this Country was founded on. She was like "what values?"
What a libturd.
Mine is ENCTARHEEL
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 3:33pm.
Mine is ENCTARHEEL
Following ya now Rick.
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 3:49pm.
Following ya now Rick.
I got yours. I don't Tweet
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 7:41pm.
I got yours. I don't Tweet very much I just like to read them.
Meet the Depressed at 20 Year Low
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:50am.
Don Lemon: "Gregory's out? Gregory's OUT?"
You can't make this stuff up.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
He's probably taking Jay Carney's job.
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:52am.
I mean, officially.
Gregory still has one chance to save his job . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:21am.
. . . Declare on the air that he is a homosexual.
As for the prospects of Scarborough replacing Gregory, it would be further evidence that NBC doesn't get it. Scarborough wouldn't be any better than Gregory; he's a blowhard who never gets enough of hearing his own voice.
They might do better to hire Major Garrett.
I like Major Garret
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:27am.
I was disappointed when he left Fox.
He was underutilized, IMO, as is Jennifer Griffin, probably the best reporter on the air these days. I always liked Lauren Green doing hosting duties as well....she's been shuffled off to no-man's-land.
Maybe David can be seen around town with Anderson Cooper....now that he's "officially" gay. *rolls eyes*
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
"Classic Beauty"
Submitted by Clyde Gatton on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:28pm.
"I always liked Lauren Green doing hosting duties..."
As did/do I, Blonde! But even more I always hoped when she was on that she would entertain us with a piano selection. Now, for all the Lauren Green aficionados, to what does my subject line refer?
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
Major Garrett
Submitted by Seashell on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 3:31pm.
I am a big fan of Major Garrett, and I think he would be excellent on MTP. Gregory is a failure IMO. I too hated when he left Fox and agree w/Blonde that he was underutilized there.
I don't think NBC would bring him on because of his association w/Fox which is to bad because he would be more in the Russert category and play it straight down the middle and be tough on both sides. Not just a shill for NBC as Gregory is.
14.9% will not be voting for Oblameo
Submitted by Andante on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:45am.
According to Oblameo’s own Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment is not 8.2%; >>>UNEMPLOYMENT IS 14.9 %<<< when real-world "U-6" data is used.
Oblameo’s media refuses to tell the public that the 8.2% unemployment number does not include the hundreds of thousands of jobs that no longer exist, the educated underemployed and it ignores the number of folks who have stopped looking for jobs.
From:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
“Persons marginally attached to the labor force are those who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for work. Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule.”
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"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --Martin Luther King, Jr.
I never forget
Submitted by StarAZ on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:47am.
Every "news" person or official boohooing or spinning on the job numbers has a smokin' job.
I see that Boy Baraka pulled
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:48am.
I see that Boy Baraka pulled into some bar/restaurant yesterday on his 'spread the word/wealth Canadian bus tour', and told the manager to turn off Fox News while he was downing a beer with a rather corpulant white lady - which probably made Moooooooooooochelle see red.................oh, wait, she allready sees red. And I understand that Boy BlahBlah told everybody to 'just pretend that I'm not here'. Hey, Baraka - we'd LOVE to just pretend that you're not here - in the same way as we'd like to just pretend that we don't have a malignant tumor!!!
I know that part of the plan is to nullify and numbify (is that a word?) the 'proletariat' so much that they put up with anything and everything - and I have to admit that Boy Baraka has numbified me completely, when it comes to his abject and unmitigated lack of class, style, humility, and grace. And he even said 'MY plan' when referring to Obamacare...............and we all know how much work he put into that!!! I'm willing to bet that he couldn't even tell you what was in it - other than the fact that he likes it!!!
Saw that picture of the RBFSOB drinking beer on our dime ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:02pm.
... AGAIN!!
Do da boy evah work,yo?
I propose the following song to become his new anthem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMy5IBmX7E
Seems appropriate for the sorry plick.
This just goes to show you
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:09pm.
This just goes to show you how much respect he has for mooooooooooooooooooooooooslem fatwahs and edicts!!! Boy Baraka is ABOVE any rules, regulations, or commandments!!!
And I was going to say that trying to pretend the he wasn't there was like trying to pretend that there wasn't a 900 pound gorilla in the room, but I figured that some thin-skinned, butt-hurt little tilley-assed queebie would get all bent out of shape and have their panties wedgied up their Obama Orifice, and call me some kind of intolerant racist!!! So I've decided to say it anyway..............
Soap: As the DNC Turns, Starring Little Debs
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:48am.
This ought to make you guys/gals laugh.
Little Debs is now refusing to go on any TV show where she has to have an opponent.....she wants to be able to spout her talking points uninterrupted. *insert chicken sounds here*
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
A photo of Allen West ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:06pm.
... could defeat that mayonnaise head in a debate!
BTW, did you see Beckel trash talking Col. West on The Five the other night?
I think that the Col. should challenge the lard ass to a cage fight for charity. Now that would draw a ton of money.
I'd rather watch paint dry than The Five w/Beckel
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:08pm.
It's too bad, really....it's not a bad program when Kirsten Powers is on. But the other liberal boobs merely bleat unmitigated Beckels of Bob for the whole time. Thumbs down.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I agree.
Submitted by c5then on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:16pm.
I've tried to watch it a couple of times and cannot take Beckel at all. I caught it once when they had Juan Williams instead and it was watchable.
Not real fond of Guttfield either.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Beckel et al
Submitted by StarAZ on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:20pm.
Well, he didn't "et" all of them. Not yet anyhow. I don't like how he just calls people idiots etc. He also seems to lack statistics and facts--just blows hard. I watch every day, though. Oh--could I also add that the flirtation thing between Gutfeld and Perino is becoming awkward? Powers, though? Don't you hate how she looks around for approval after every grinning statement?
You mean like when Zell
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:16pm.
You mean like when Zell Miller (the last 'Democrat' that I've had ANY respect for) challenged the Leghumper to a duel??? That was CLASSIC!!! The worst that could happen to West - in a cage 'fight' with Belcher Bob - is that he would get that crappy hair dye all over his hands...............and probably have some alcohol/drug smelling sweat on hisself. ( I hear that Beckel is a reformed alkie/drug addict - but given the way he acts, talks, and thinks - I'll bet that he's still got a lot of it in his system!!!)
And I think it would be hard to 'debate' the half-drowned cocker spaniel, because you wouldn't be able to get in a word edgewise, AND you'd have to be in the same room as her, which would keep your hands over your mouth, just so you wouldn't vomit!!!
Killa, addicts never fully recover.
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:37pm.
At some point they will rebound. It happens universally, no matter how much they try. It's not an indictment of addiction medicine, but instead the realization that our treatment of substance abusers and addicts has shifted away from trying to induce and maintain abstinence from whatever substance(s) are being abused, but to one of harm reduction where we try to control what long term damage they have already done and deal with the medical consequences and the psychiatric ones simultaneously. Programs like AA are great, but I add the underlying caveat that the patient needs to attend them in addition to remaining adherent (compliant) 100% with medications we use to treat addiction and underlying psychiatric illnesses.
DocSam
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:51pm.
I have relatives in AA, and if you work the program, it works. The key is to recognize that they can NEVER drink again. Also, the meetings are very theraputic for my loved ones. It works on changing the whole mindset of the person.
Like anything else, it doesn't work for everyone, but please don't tell me it can't work for some. I need my hope, because dealing with an addict is extremely painful and can be debilitating.
I hope it works for you relatives, Rad.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 3:38pm.
I have several friends who are in AA, and as long as they keep going to the meetings, it works well for them.
In this town, it ain't easy being an alcoholic, that's for sure. They fight it every day, but manage to get by day by day.
In fact, one of my buddies has found that AA meetings is a great place to pick up women who obviously have the same interests. He's really made the best of it. I've been accusing him of never actually ever been a drunk, and he just uses that to pick up chicks.
One guy has not been sober since Viet Nam, until the doctor told him about a year ago that he could just go ahead and plan his funeral if he didn't stop drinking. He stopped cold turkey that day and hasn't had a drink since. I am still amazed.
So there is hope, but keep them in the system. As you said, it works if you work it.
Bubba
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 5:17pm.
Well if he wants to meet girls who share an interest in drinking, it's a good place to meet people. It's very hard for addicts to stay clean while others are drinking, so family holidays are dry now. Totally worth it,
double
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 7:49pm.
.
I saw that Bubba
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:51pm.
I wanted to smack Beckel through the TV. Liberal hypocrite.
Blonde
Submitted by Seashell on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:32pm.
I saw this in the comments section on the site you posted regarding Little Debs. Pretty funny.
LOL, they captured her perfectly
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:38pm.
She's such a shill!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Well, almost perfectly...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:54pm.
they were too kind by not going after that humongous butt.
That's awesome.
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 2:32pm.
.
If Obama had an R
Submitted by journoprof on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:20pm.
If Obama had an R behind his name this job announcement would be reported as sure evidence that we have dropped into recession again. Hmmm....what am I saying? If Obama had an R behind his name the media would have reported no recovery at all...they'd say we're still in a recession. Gee...what a difference one little letter makes!
Jobs created or go to jail. 13,000 pages, and counting ...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:00pm.
Lawyer and Accountant Dream come true...
The IRS, Health and Human Services and many other agencies will now write thousands of pages of regulations — an effort well under way: “There’s already 13,000 pages of regulations, and they’re not even done yet,” Rehberg said.
“They are asking for several hundred new employees,” Dorn said. “You have rules you need to write and you need lawyers, so there are lots of things you need to do when you are standing up a new enterprise.”
Gawd using the word....Enterprise.... WTF... whining the future.
You Didn't Build That.
You'll love this...
Submitted by c5then on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:16pm.
The IRS has estimated that they will require 17,000 new employees to implement and administer the aspects of Obamacare that they are charged with policing and controlling.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
In bubba's rein in the 90's he added 800 pages to the irs law.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:44pm.
Just in one year, that left a scar....
This O'bomic volume of paper, guarantees, an irs win every single audit, and they will also collect a fat fine, for their additional trouble...
Yes you missed the tax, on the 1099-WTF of $3.35..... and the fine is ta da...$250,000.00...
You Didn't Build That.
Matt, your prediction proved to be about as far off the mark
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:20pm.
as the employment numbers forecast by the economic 'experts'.
The weak jobs report has been a major news story on all of the MSM websites.
Jer
The elephant in the room is so big
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:30pm.
That they could no longer ignore it.....it's pushed them out the doors, into the light, where they have no other choice but to report the numbers.
It's the spin that will do them in.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Blonde,
Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 1:43pm.
This is the media - it is hunting season for elephants during the election cycle so any intelligent elephant will stay out of the line of fire and especially out of the same room with liberals.
Speaking of elephants and spin...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 2:48pm.
This was the lead article when I opened the CNN news app on my iPAD earlier today. I thought it had been written by one of Romney's senior campaign advisors. [Note the "why unemployment is worse than it looks" video.]
Jer
Hey, Jer, ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 3:42pm.
... maybe CNN has decided that they had rather stay in business than be a pack of lying, liberal lackeys.
Could be, bubba...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 3:50pm.
Back in the pre-Fox News days, CNN had about as many lying, conservative lackey commentators as they had liberal ones.
Jer
Just maybe they should have kept them.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 5:58pm.
THEY might be number one!
Newsbubba
Submitted by 26CX on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:07pm.
Touche.
Actual Reporting Alert!
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:06pm.
Chris Moody of Yahoo News The Ticket reports the Obama Administration has lathered, rinsed, and repeated the following 30 months in a row:
In other news... a monkey flew out of Deady's rear end but not yet confirmed it is a sign of the Apocalypse/Brown's win the Super Bowl or he's just changing troll aliases.
GWB
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:58pm.
And still the article could not help
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:03pm.
But mention how Clinton needed to rehabilitated his "image", as if Bush did anything that would require him to rehabilitate his?
Boudin
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 4:53pm.
There isn't enough rehab on this planet that could square Obama, so he better enjoy being Chicago G-sus while he can.
Report made me sick
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 07/08/2012 - 2:24am.
No wonder A fine Man such as GW Bush wants NO pub.
I dislike nothing as the media, nothing
Went over to the Disqus comments on the Chris Rock ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 6:25pm.
thread to check something out, and I read one of doc sam's excellent replies to a moron who goes by the name Sammy Johns 75.
Sammy Johns got his knickers in a twist and replied nastily to doc sam, and I attempted to reply to Sammy Johns by saying he was just mad because doc sam kicked his moronic ass by way of presenting a lucid, well thought out reply.
After keying in my comment for submittal - I was informed that my post was flagged and a moderator would have to determine whether or not my comment would be allowed.
This, mind you, after seeing the "F" bomb dropped in it's complete, unadulterated totality, in capitals, numerous times by ol' Sammy Johns, in that particular thread.
Too funny.
Is this Disqus venture supposed to be a joke?
MD
MD, was your post flagged
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 7:51pm.
before it went up, by the mods, or did Sammy boy flag it and cause it to be sent to the queue for "moderation"? I though someone posted that anyone can flag anyone else's posts, if that's true, the mods will have a lot of work in the future.
UpNorth and Matthew*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 8:36pm.
Dont know how disqus works but being the NB prude brigade, I flagged 5 of sammy's posts due to the most vulgar language. Disqus or not, NB still has rules. Sad thing is, his posts are still there....;-(
CAj, I do believe I flagged the same posts.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 9:13pm.
Everywhere he dropped the F-bomb. Now, if we could get a few more NB'rs to go flag his sorry self, maybe we can get rid of him.
And, Mr. Hunt ought to be banished, just for his s/n.
pardon me upnorth*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 9:23pm.
I saw the many posts regarding MrHunts s/n but due to my prudishness, I dont get the significance and please dont laugh at me. Im an old lady.
I also think that many posters unfamiliar with disqus do not know about the "flag" business since the flag button does not appear until you "hover" on the avatar box. Regardless of who monitors NB disqust, we still need, perhaps now more than ever, to continue our standards of posts behavior here or we will become Yahoo in no time.
I come to NB for the thoughtful and intellectual quality of debates, from either side, but I will not easily accept the degradation of NB by a few drive by trolls that spew lies and profanity. I have been named the NB prude brigade by some and I proudly carry the moniker.
Caj
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:09pm.
It's not just the crudeness Disqus opened the door to, it's the incivility. People just throw insults and call names instead of having discussions. I don't have much hope for this change.
Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:29pm.
We need a ditto button.
UpNorth
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:56pm.
I just spent a good 20 or 30 minutes flagging the idiots posts. He's quite a piece of work, haven't seen such an idiot around here for awhile.
Rad, he seems to be going
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 07/08/2012 - 10:46am.
for the title of copy/paste champion, also. Why the powers that be had to open up NB to a mess like this is going to turn out to be, I don't know.
UpNorth ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 9:02pm.
I typed the comment, and when I hit "Post as", the message referencing the moderator popped up.
The comment still hasn't been put through.
I just thought it odd that the word 'ass' apparently caused a disturbance in The Force; while the F bombs, in all their glory, rained down like Hellfire missiles.
Talk about swallowing an elephant whole and then choking on a gnat.
Hilarious.
Inconsistent, too - yes; but that very inconsistency adds to the humor of picturing a "moderator" snoring away at the keyboard during a duty tour.
MD
@MatthewDean
Submitted by Timothy H on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:19pm.
From my previous experience, it would seem the post to which you were replying was flagged for review. When that happens, all posts in reply to that post are also automatically flagged by the system because the initial post may be removed, as well as a flagged post standing a exponentially higher incident of having derogatory comments in reply, for obvious reasons.
It doesn't actually have anything to do with what you wrote, but is an indicator that the post you are replying to is flagged.
Hope that clears it up a bit, bud.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. -Albert Einstein
And for blonde:Some days it just doesn't pay to chew through the restraint. -Timothy H
Timothy H. ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:25pm.
Ahh, that makes sense.
All my complaining - for nothing.
Rats. :o)
Thanks, and much appreciated !.
MD
Matthew...
Submitted by Timothy H on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:59pm.
No problem, buddy. Glad I could help. :)
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. -Albert Einstein
And for blonde:Some days it just doesn't pay to chew through the restraint. -Timothy H
I'm stayin' (Obamaspeak) away
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/07/2012 - 8:10pm.
I'm stayin' (Obamaspeak) away from that whole venue, guys and gals..................it's just too convoluted for the ol' simple-minded country-boy Killa!!! I'm used to normal conversation, done in some sort of coherent and understandable fashion. I've looked through some of it, but there's a lot of 'too much a'nothing' going on for me. I know we can get a little animated over here in the old-fashioned threads, but I've found that things tend to work out, and I think there's room for learning more things and becomnig more informed, since there is often a lot of information being presented here.
Call me old-fashioned and out-of-touch, I guess. Plus, I'm gettin' tired of having to scroll down through dozens and dozens of tweets, twits, twerps, and discotexts in order to find out what the 'common folks' are commenting about. I think we've been relegated to the back of the bus, and sometime soon, we'll be asked to leave alltogether.
I agree w Killa
Submitted by Timothy H on Sun, 07/08/2012 - 1:39pm.
I use the new format out of necessity, but I find the old format to be less limiting and more appealing.
Unfortunately, I think NB is headed the way of Yahoo!, where quick hits are more important than serious discussion. I hope I'm wrong.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. -Albert Einstein
And for blonde:Some days it just doesn't pay to chew through the restraint. -Timothy H