Open Thread: The Great California Exodus
Today's starter topic: The left has long believed that taxes and regulations don't have an impact on economies. Reality says otherwise as the current anemic economic recovery has proven but also as the mass exodus from the state of California has demonstrated:
The first thing that comes to many American minds when you mention California isn't Hollywood or tanned girls on a beach, but Greece. Many progressives in California take that as a compliment since Greeks are ostensibly happier. But as Mr. Kotkin notes, Californians are increasingly pursuing happiness elsewhere.
Nearly four million more people have left the Golden State in the last two decades than have come from other states. This is a sharp reversal from the 1980s, when 100,000 more Americans were settling in California each year than were leaving. According to Mr. Kotkin, most of those leaving are between the ages of 5 and 14 or 34 to 45. In other words, young families.
The scruffy-looking urban studies professor at Chapman University in Orange, Calif., has been studying and writing on demographic and geographic trends for 30 years. Part of California's dysfunction, he says, stems from state and local government restrictions on development. These policies have artificially limited housing supply and put a premium on real estate in coastal regions.
"Basically, if you don't own a piece of Facebook or Google and you haven't robbed a bank and don't have rich parents, then your chances of being able to buy a house or raise a family in the Bay Area or in most of coastal California is pretty weak," says Mr. Kotkin.
While many middle-class families have moved inland, those regions don't have the same allure or amenities as the coast. People might as well move to Nevada or Texas, where housing and everything else is cheaper and there's no income tax.
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off and on for years
Submitted by KornKing on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:23am.
I've heard that companies like U-Haul have hired people to drive trucks into CA
True dat!
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:38am.
And they charge a premium if you're leaving CA to leave equipment in TX or other more popular states.
➚ Calif. excreting Californians
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:47am.
Fortunately, Texas doesn't have nearly as liberal the Welfare entitlements as California.
The powers that remain in California should expect a higher rate of dependency.
This is the reason
Submitted by c5then on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:27am.
That the liberals / socialists are trying hard to get everywhere to be socilist. That way people will have no where to run to. As long as there are those pesky free-market libertarian enclaves like Arizona, Texas, Wyoming, etc... where taxes are low, services are kept to a minimum and quality of life is high, there will always be an escape from places like California and New York.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Yep we see them every day
Submitted by ninerdog on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:28am.
Yep we see them every day here in New Mexico. Thank God they are going to Texas and not messing things up here any more than they are. They show up and want to make thing just like it was in California. Stupid people.
No kidding
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:18am.
Too bad they like going to Austin and screwing up that city for the rest of the state.
I tell some of these idiots "if you didn't like how California was doing things, why are you here if you try to beat a dead horse expecting different results? Just go back to California, leave us the hell alone."
-Jon
We need environmental laws against environmentalists
Submitted by needle on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 7:12pm.
Having fouled up California with their socialism and cockamamie environmentalism AND NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT, or even realizing that they and their stupid notions have any bearing upon why they have to leave California, the Californicators are fouling nests everywhere they go.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Warning Signs
Submitted by BuffNBone on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 4:07pm.
Ninerdog, I feel your pain.
You know the invasion has begun when you start to see signs that say, "Trader Joe's Coming Soon". Then once the stores are built the conversations revolve around how everything was better in California.
Seems like the only pan handlers along the I-40 corridor really worth helping out are the ones with California tags saying they're trying to get to Oklahoma or Texas.
We do not want
Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:55pm.
We do not want them.
Oklahoma, the only state in the union that Obama did not win a county, one! Redest state in the union!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Not all exiters....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:42am.
are young families. As soon as I finish the project I'm working on right now, I'll be retiring somewhere else. Everything is too $pecial here in CA.
➚ If
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:13am.
If you can look those two imposters, Pelosi and Boxer, in the eye and say "Y'all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas!"
You'll be a cowboy, my son.
Speaking of coming to Texas
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:21am.
Whatever happened to Mark Finkelstein coming to Texas a while back? I wonder how he's doing with that?
-Jon
He's outside of Dallas, jon
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:28am.
Somewhere to the southwest of the city, IIRC.
And loving it.
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OH! You're talking about.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:23am.
Pe-lousey and Boxhead, but you forgot Diane Frankenstein.
Also, C.A., owning horses and knowing REAL cowboys (there are a few out here) I know I'll NEVER be one! :-)
While I do have family in Saginaw, TX, most of my family lives in TN, so that's most likely where we'll be heading. NO state income tax.
➚ Wow, Cowboy!
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:28am.
You do realize that quote comes from Davey Crockett who left Tennessee for Texas?
How cool is that?
Yeah, Cool...and his LAST words were
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:20pm.
"Why the hell did I come to Texas!"
Jer
Jer's got the funnies tonight.
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:24pm.
.
Desperate attempts to debunk Leno myth about libs lacking
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:29pm.
sense of humor.
Jer
➚ Mildly funny
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:17pm.
I'm just wondering, and I'm not offended by your joke, but when does it become acceptable to make fun of heroes? Is there a time period?
I'm not sure...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 4:31pm.
but I'm getting the impression at NB that 175 years is insufficient for even a "mildly funny" quip about a hero (and Crockett is one of my favorites, btw), and that it is never appropriate to joke about prostitution.
Jer
You got it Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 4:58pm.
It's really a tough audience here.
You're a lonly little onion
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 5:03pm.
You're a lonely little onion in a petunia patch.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I'm sure there are lots of good places to retire
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:46pm.
Pennsylvania is pretty nice, if you mostly stay away from the big cities (Pittsburgh and Philadelphia). State income tax, but not on your pension income. We also have 4 seasons here and some good hunting, fishing, and camping areas if you like that sort of thing.
As soon as Wifey retires............
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:31pm.
We are out of here!! I was born and raised in California, and it once was the greatest place to live, no more. Aerospace, once the biggest industry here is gone and DEAD, as is most large industries, do to the NIMBY's and Tree Huggers. The state is run, top to bottom by enviro nuts, that have Cap and Trade as a state policy. The once fertile central valley, the bread basket of CA is a desert wasteland, because they wont allow water to be sent there because of some snail in the river delta.
Lunatics!! They run the state now, and all that is going to be left is Govt. employees, the super rich, sipping wine in Napa, and the poor. A totally UNSUSTAINABLE super left, uber socialist state!!
My wife and I make good money, and could live like kings anywhere else, but we live paycheck to paycheck, barely making it here. I live in the home I always wanted, but with property taxes, and all of the taxes in general are making life difficult. I dont know where we will go to, but ANYWHERE is better than here!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
BEGRUNT:
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 8:01pm.
If you and the wife decide to move to TX, let me know and I will arrange for some crash space here. I won't let you go 30 miles north of here though, because you'll be reminded of CA, as the hippies infest the city of Austin. :)
Maybe I'm biased, but I think you both will find San Antonio to your liking.
Just promise you'll consider moving to Lloyd Doggett's district. That'll be one more voter that will have a chance of turning that Socialist thief out of office.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Thank you UNS,
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 8:10pm.
We truly appreciate that! I have been to San Antonio, via Randolph AFB, nice city, the Alamo was a treat as well. Although the summer I was there, the humidity made me melt, it also didnt help wearing Corefam shoes on the tarmac during a change in command ceremony either....;-)
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
More on TX
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:32pm.
Take it from someone who spent some time at Lackland AFB...spending time during a parade in regular dress shoes, in the grass, was likewise no fun. It was August after all...
Yep, the summers are insanely hot and the humidity can be unbearable, but I love the fall and spring here. And the winter doesn't get too cold. I cannot understand how my neighbors are running A/C this time of year. My A/C is the windows open at night, when the dry air allows a plunge to the 50s.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Begrunt,
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:42pm.
Like you I am a native Californian and it was once a great place to be. Now it is a national joke and an embarrassment. I will never go back until 9 out of 10 people there leave and return to whatever cesspool they crawled out of - starting with the two senators who "represent" the people....er...I mean...themselves.
I enjoy the pace of the Great Republic of Texas. Ya'll come out here.
Shalom.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Unsane
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 8:43pm.
And, of course, SA has..... the Spurs. :)
- Shy Feeling a 1999 Rematch
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Hollywood
Submitted by oldfart on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:55am.
Ever notice how many 'hollywood' movies and tv series are filmed in Vancover?
I wonder why - choke, choke, gag, gag.
That is why when I hear hollywood idiots say: 'if (fill in the blank) gets elected I am moving to Canada". You know why they don't go - Canada doesn't want them.
Say goodby to hollywood :)
Submitted by I hate marxists on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:56am.
I always said the only good thing that comes out of california is an empty greyhound bus
Reaping what you sow
Submitted by KornKing on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:04pm.
Many years ago(Moonbeam's first tenure) he would not allow extradition of an individual to South Dakota to face criminal charges there. The then gov of SD commuted a bunch of prison terms to "time served" subject to the inmates moving to CA and promising to never return to SD.
The only problem I see is,
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:05am.
The only problem I see is, after they ruin CA, the Liberals will also movre and ruin a new State. That's what happened to NJ after all those New Yorkers fled here.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
A broken Keith Olbermann crawls along rock bottom
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:16am.
http://moonbattery.com/?p=10871
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:28am.
The Black Cacus has introduced a bill wanting money to prevent racial profiling.
http://thehill.com/images/stories/blogs/flooraction/jan2012/hr4398.pdf
More trouble in Paradise (O-world)
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:32am.
Seems Baracka is annoyed with Little Debs for her pit-bull, attack dog style.
Check it out.
It’s not about you, its about me. – attributed to President Barack Obama to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, as per our source
Enjoy! That big black Canadian bus that Obama uses has yet another female person under it, must be the Republican War on Women, huh?
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BO is so consistent
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:44am.
In viewing absolutely everything being about him.
➚ Pit-Bull attack style
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:51am.
Doubtless, such a comment would have the President salivating.
Speaking of Pitbulls.....
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:16pm.
Must see photo on MOTUS of a pitbull. 8th picture down.
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➚ Flattering photo
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:30pm.
It's those classic-beauty high cheekbones.
One more to add
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:01pm.
Not only is he claiming ownership of the DNC, but he's claiming that the government is his now as well. (I don't remember if a Republican President ever claimed ownership of the RNC like this, anyone know?)
It's my government!
They tried to compare it to Bill Clinton and George Bush, but Obeyme's actions are far worse than anything those two ever did.
-Jon
Jon
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:25pm.
Yes, the great Constitutional scholar fails to recognize that the founders didn't want Congress, or the President to have a lot of power. I'm sure a "do nothing" Congress, within bounds, would have suited them just fine.
The fact that Obama can't get things done means we the people don't want them done.
What?
Submitted by KornKing on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:06pm.
Another Urkel dog joke?
I wish he'd leave her alone.
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:32pm.
I wish he'd leave her alone. She is the gift that keeps on giving. She is very good for Republicans.
Be carefull
Submitted by icu4whatur on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:53am.
keep in mind that the socialist/nanny states who have the gov in there back pocket on the union deals when they run out of honest hardworking americans and wealthy people to tax the unions will just migrate where the money is and do it all over again using up the resourses that are to be given to really needy people and change the gov policies to fit there agenda's . They are like a cancer they eat and use up everything without regard to others.
➚ The Klan Rides Again
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:33pm.
What is it with Democrats and their love of lynch mobs?
Where's Lynchmo?
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:38pm.
I'd love to see her defend this.
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Bunch of geniuses, they are....*eyeroll*
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:06pm.
Once u been convicted of a crime & let out on bail u can't be charged 2x for the same thing so that means sum1 gonna have to kill Zimmerman
➚ Uphill battle, ain't it?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:12pm.
It's like double jeopardy only applies if Alex Trebek is at the bench.
It's kill the judge now
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:45pm.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/23/classy-trayvon-supporter-zimmerman-re...
Not to worry, CA.
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 3:44pm.
Twitter will be all over this, shutting down accounts for violating their TOS. Wait, never mind. I forgot that Twitter apparently is down with the threats.
oh good gawd no!!
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:49pm.
You mean to tell me California is metastasizing! spreading across the country! The country is going to need a whole lot of chemo-therapy or this exodus could spell doom.
I mean really, anyone wanting to move into your state from California should be met at the border and run through a checkpoint like immigrants at Ellis Island. Those not fit should be sent back.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:51pm.
As a former Californicator who left years ago, I admit that I am getting a lot of perverse enjoyment from watching this once beautiful state go into the toilet.
The really funny thing is that evidently so many people have absolutely no clue as to why this is happening.
Send 'em to Washington State! They have no income tax!
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:52pm.
We have our fill of lunatic fringe ultraleftist whackos here in Texas. We keep 'em in Austin, and we don't want any more. Our quota has been filled.
Texas
Submitted by Joe W. on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 12:54pm.
As a native Californian, I joined the Exodus a year and a half ago and came to live here in Texas. Best thing I ever did, too. The Ghetto Gangsters, Gays, Illegals, Drug Addicts, Hollyweirdos, and other assorted "Progressive Liberal" moon bats have ruined what once was an exceptionally wonderful place to live and raise a family. It now is no more than a cesspool, and it is destined to further devolve into an economic and morally bankrupt sewer. Such a shame. And as California has generally led the nation, let it be a warning as to what y'all can expect if you choose the same ultra liberal road to ruin.
➚ Maybe the Mayans were right
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:07pm.
Dick Clark died . . . and like, there isn't supposed be another New Year . . .
Jus' sayin' . . .
Well played Mayans . . .
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:29pm.
I guess now I'll never see a Palin Presidency. :-(
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
We're screwed
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:36pm.
And I'm not sure whatever happens in November is going to matter all that much, except slow the train down a couple of notches.
Maybe.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
If I Wanted America To Fail
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:43pm.
Must see video of this election.
Stratman, Great video...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 3:13pm.
Whammo and right to the point.
You Didn't Build That.
It Is UCW
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 4:48pm.
I may be an old softie, but it gave me goosebumps. (no thrill up the leg, thankfully)
Will Romney notice this video?
I learned as a kid not to pee
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:51pm.
I learned as a kid not to pee on an electric fence or the spark plug on a lawn mower or a car. Seems this guy didn't learn that lesson
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/23/man-dies-after-peeing-on-l-tracks...
I thought Mythbusters found this to be a myth.
By the way I was just stuborn enough as a kid I had to find out for myself about the electric fence. I never tried the spark plug. Had a buddy do that one for me.
The Imperial President
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 1:52pm.
Obama Wages War on SCOTUS, Congress
After all, how are you going to get “fundamental change” without fundamentally undermining the Constitutional structure?
Look for a lot more crap like this from the Commiecrats
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 2:33pm.
Can't run on their record so they have to keep up this phony war on women
http://moonbattery.com/?p=10900
For Killa
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 2:52pm.
Surfing tips.
Hay I surfed there, in Waikiki
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 3:31pm.
The first place I finally stood up was in a surf break called Grandma's on Maui...Dropping in on someone is not a good thing, heh.
The surf spots on Oahu are, in a word...epic...
You Didn't Build That.
Dropping In
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 4:59pm.
When your backside has its own zip code, you have to give Coco a break for unintentionally dropping in on your tasty wave.
Something tells me Ice T is going to make a pile of money if his wife gives surf lessons. Killa will pretend he's a newbie. ;-)
You're a lucky dog, UCW. The closest I'll probably ever get to Oahu is watching Endless Summer or reruns of Magnum PI and Hawaii 5-0.
Just a yes or no from the guys
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 5:43pm.
Is that really a look guys like? That big a caboose with that small a suit? If it was a guy I would request he covers more, but guys think differently...
Start that's exactly why I watch Hawiia 5-0. It has nothing to do with the two male leads...
:)
Rad
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 6:05pm.
If Coco was a guy than those pictures would show major carpenter's crack. Not pretty. We all might tell him to cover up.
The correct answer to your question is we like girls with big minds. At least that's my answer. The rest are on their own. :-)
Strat
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 6:59pm.
I'm getting to the age I kind of wish my husband appreciated a behind like Coco's. Then I could stop walking in all kinds of crappy weather to try prevent the spread. Sigh.
Long After The Looks Have Faded
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 7:19pm.
The mind is still the most provocative and captivating part of the body.
Hang in there!
strat
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:08pm.
Hey, I'm not giving up. It just gets tiring. But he's worth it.
Although he'd never leave me while the adult children are living at home. I might make him live with them. ;)
Nope, Rad, that look is just wrong.
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:04pm.
I agree, cover it up.
To answer your question, rad:
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 9:00pm.
No, nein, Нет!!!
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Surf school in Waikiki, LOLZ State run and Union compulsory
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 6:20pm.
All that is needed for killa to pull off a newbieism, is to have a camera on a strap, 'round his neck. Just make sure he won't open his pidgin mouth...
For me bar none that was the biggest stink-eye I ever got, camera flopping...
Killa could pull off one of these Not with the mass of hEr.
Arf! arf! a lucky dog in asiamaui Thanks strat, lolz
You Didn't Build That.
Mass Of hEr?
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 7:14pm.
Tandem surfing is cool. Big Bear makes it look easy. Watched a couple of those UTubes with Bear, one where he's giving a tandem lesson. Dude's talking about waves since the universe was created. Sounded like an astrophysicist. He should hookup with Stephen Hawking. Now I know where Killa gets it from. :-)
Next time I see surfers out on Lake Erie - The North Coast - I'll think of you and Killa chillaxin in Asia.
Strat BRRR
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:12pm.
Did you get snow today?
No Ma'am
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:42pm.
No snow, but it was windy and cold nonetheless. Good day for chili and crackers.
It's actually kind of a funny article
Submitted by Someone Said on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 4:35pm.
It sounds like San Francisco is a ghost town who would have thought that population of California is grown from 29 million to 37 million since 1990. Fool me once shame on me.
Look at another indicator
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:36pm.
But correct me if I'm wrong, I think its number of electoral votes has been stuck at 54 since 1990. I know CA didn't pick up any in 2000. I don't recall them picking up any in 2010.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
NoPhit
Submitted by Lamdog on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 5:22pm.
The scruffy-looking urban studies professor at Chapman University in Orange, Calif., has been studying and writing on demographic and geographic trends for 30 years. Part of California's dysfunction, he says, stems from state and local government restrictions on development. These policies have artificially limited housing supply and put a premium on real estate in coastal regions.
Thomas Sowell has been arguing this point for decades.
Texas Citizen !!!
Submitted by thgirbla on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:31pm.
Don't run to Texas so fast, stop off in Nevada and spend some money, have some fun and maybe buy a house !!!
WE already have enough Illegal Felon Invader Immigrants living here that DON'T pay Taxes and bleed the Social Programs for all they can get !!!
So far WE haven't had a Governor or a State Legislature with the stones to crack down on the problem !!! Every time it comes up in the Legislature, it gets Voted down for fear that the Fed. Govt. will do what they have been doing to Arizona and because they are afraid they might loose all of the Illegal Votes that they receive from THEM !!!
Came close last Session, WE are hoping for the future Sessions to FINALLY hear the States Citizens demanding that something be done about the problem !!!
There are those of us in the State that still remember "Remember the Alamo!!!" and how the Texicans defeated Mexico the last time they tried to invade the State !!!
Don't Mess with Texas is not referring just to the anti litter campaign !!!
So they ruined Cali
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 7:29am.
Now they want to move elsewhere instead of fixing it,,,,,,, wonderful!
Let me tell you my story
Submitted by IdahoJim on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 2:38pm.
I left California 16 years ago. My Idaho friends started to accuse me of bring California to Idaho. I assured them that as a conservative, I was escaping California and all its liberal minions.
I did try to stay and fix California, but my conservative vote was swamped out by the idiot liberals, so I gave up and left.
My father was from Kellog, ID and almost every summer we vacationed in Idaho. I fell in love with the place. When I got a job offer from an Idaho compay We jumped at the chance to move away from the left coast and all of its horrors.
After we settled in Boise, just for fun, I went over to the statehouse and asked around about registering as a "political refugee". Every one of the state workers I talked to got the joke.
Sadly, I arrived in Ada county just before it went democrat. The mayor, city council, county supervisors are mostly democrat. This county and one other (Sun Valley) went for Obama. 99% of the state elected offices are Republican. Congress meets for only 3 months out of the year, and the constitution was written with a balanced budget requirement.
Suits me just fine. I pay $100 per car for liability insurance, $165 for full coverage. I bought a 4500 sqft house for less than I sold my 1700 sqft. house in California and I pay less property taxs on the bigger house. I used to pay $300+ a month for electricity. Now, if the bill goes above $125 a month I start looking for air leaks.
So do not consider me a spoiler of Idaho. I'm just another escaped California taxpayer that embraces the conservative, Idaho lifestyle.
Now the bad news. We have to drive down to SoCal Friday to attend a birthday party, among other things. We hope to escape early Sunday morning.
Wish us a safe trip??
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
Trip cancelled.
Submitted by IdahoJim on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 2:52pm.
The logistics were not working out.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net