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Jonathan Davis of Korn: U.S. at 'Worst It's Ever Been' Because of Obama

By Matthew Sheffield | December 08, 2011 | 20:22

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Proving that not all famous musicians are in the thrall of Barack Obama and his brand of punitive liberalism, Jonathan Davis, lead singer of the heavy metal band Korn made headlines today criticizing the president.

In an interview with the music trade publication Billboard, Davis said that he believed Obama had "basically dragged this country down into the worst it's ever been." Davis made those remarks in reference to a song on the group's new CD "Path of Totality" entitled "Illuminati." His full comments are below the break:

"I feel like Obama's an Illuminati puppet… it's basically dragged this country down into the worst it's ever been. 'You've built this house of shame' -- the White House used to be, everybody looked up at the White House and America and everything, and now I think it's like a house of shame."

One hopes that Davis thought through saying such remarks as there is a long history of the intolerant left trying to freeze out entertainers who have the temerity to criticize Democratic politicians.

The snippet from Billboard is so short, it's possible that Davis was criticizing Obama from the left, however, given the observed general lack of interest in being proud of America at left-wing protests, that seems unlikely.

Despite his wealth-bashing rhetoric, Obama has had no problem palling around with elites. He already has raised more money from Wall Street than all the GOP presidential candidates combined and just got finished hosting a $35,000 a plate fundraiser in New York City. His campaign says it hopes to raise over $1 billion for his reelection.

Korn became famous during the 1990s and since that time has sold 19 million albums in the US and 35 million worldwide.

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It's interesting

Submitted by Ozconservative on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 8:58pm.

It's interesting that a lot of heavy metal and hard rock artists come at life from at fiscal conservative/libertarian vewpoint. James Hetfield, Gene Simmons and Kid Rock are among them.

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill
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Don't forget Alice Cooper

Submitted by panzerakc on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:49am.

He won my admiration one election cycle when he said, "If you let some celebrity tell you who to vote for, you are more stupid than the celebrity."

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Forgive me, but given Korn's

Submitted by tcm14 on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 8:58pm.

Forgive me, but given Korn's style it's hard to imagine they are not dyed-in-the-wool lefties. But if they aren't, more power to them.

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They probably are.

Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 11:01pm.

Those in the metal business (though I refuse to give the "metal" label to Korn) tend to be some of the biggest liberals out there.

You can't take a guess for another 2 hours?
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Agreed

Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 9:28am.

Without more context, it's not possible to discern with certainty what Davis' poiltical bent is.

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I don't know anything about

Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 9:04pm.

I don't know anything about Korn...........at first I thought the article was about the guy you runs Mother Jones, or some publication like that, and I know he's a total lefty whack-job. I guess Korn better start paying attention to their tax and income issues, as well as maybe their passport issues............and I hope they're not traveling around with any illegal substances. If the REGIME gets wind of this negative assessment of their performance, they just might have to extract a little payback..................they can't have these uppity white-boy rockers bad-mouthing Boy Barry!!!

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The band might want to run

Submitted by ant on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 9:54pm.

The band might want to run out and buy up some Gibson guitars before the regime's hammer comes down, if they haven't already.

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Yeah, I think that Gibson is

Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 10:23pm.

Yeah, I think that Gibson is re-thinking their involvment in guitar making here in the USA as long as Boy Blunder and Eric Hold'um are running the show............I've read that they might take their operation to some friendlier confines - they havent' done anything wrong that I can tell................sure as hell nothing like selling guns to Mexican crime gangs or ripping off productive people at every turn or going belly-up with a half-billion dollar government 'loan' (which will NEVER be paid back!!).

Speaking of right-leaning musicians.............Billy F. Gibbons is a conservative, and you know he's had his original pattent-applied-for humbucking sunburst Gibson Les Paul...........which he calls 'Pearly Gates'. And you KNOW that ol' Billy can really spank the plank, right??? I absolutely love one of his quotes - 'I've never had any problem with obscene notes'!!!! And he's hit a few in his career!!!!!

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Yep, heard the owner of

Submitted by ant on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 10:48pm.

Yep, heard the owner of Gibson talking about that, and because legal defense costs would necessarily lead to higher prices. Obama's a POS.

The latest on F&F (though I don't remember the specific names). An e-mail uncovered from one department to another ask them to round up the numbers on the multiple long gun sales the ATF had enabled through straw purchasers, so they could use these numbers on an initiative to portray gun sales as dangerous and pass laws specifically aimed at long gun sales in quantities higher than one. These people are dangerous. How far are they allowed to go before the people cry 'treason'?!

BTW, saw ZZTop in concert with George Thorogood years ago, Helluva show. The hall stopped serving alchohol a 1/4 of the way through the show. That sucked. A city with rampant flashmobs, the knockout game and gang shootings, but they were worried about some white beer drinkers and hell raisers. Hope that doesn't sound racist, I think people will know what I mean.

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Doesn't Thorogood play a

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:26am.

Doesn't Thorogood play a Gibson??? I know he plays a thin hollow-body with a single cutaway........it's got to be some brand that makes those types of guitars. I got turned onto George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers back in the 80's by a girl who was working over here on my island. She was definitly a mainland girl, and this place was pretty 'roots country' at the time, so it was a weird combination, because she was a college graduate and a trained financial type. But she was into music, and she was from the East Coast, and she knew her sh*t!!! She also knew a lot more - if you catch my drift!!!! WHOOOOOPIE!!!!!
Sometimes a dumb-ass country boy scores a hit!!!

Ya'know.........Thorogood isn't all that good of a guitar player or singer, but somehow the guy just kicks some major league ass!!!

I saw ZZ Topp when they had a big production on stage, and I've also seen them when it was just 3 guys, 3 mics, two stacks of amps, and a drum kit. Either way, they delivered the goods...............

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I think he does play a

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:54am.

I think he does play a Gibson, one of those ES-135 or 235 models, I think. I like the sound he has, that grizzled, slight fuzz tone. And slides always sound mean and beautiful to me, even when a hack like me plays one. One of the things I never appreciated about this band Korn and bands like Linkin Park is their guitar sounds, doesn't sound 'woody' enough to me, more like they're using it as a synthesizer with a flat or a percussion instrument. Plus, I'm getting older now and anger and suicide don't play as heavy into my musical choices now. Not that I'm listening to 'Muskrat Love' by Captain and Tenille either. No offense to anyone.

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Ahhhhhhhhh c'mon,

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 1:34am.

Ahhhhhhhhh c'mon, ant.............I KNOW that your album collection has a lot of Barely Man-enough and Elpin John!!! It's OK.....
I won't hold it against you!!! 'Muskrat Love'??? Jeez, ant...........you're KILLIN' me!!! Actually, one of the most 'macho' guys I know is a big fan of Elpin John AND the Bee-Gees!!! Did I tell you that I can make my falsetto warble and do a pretty good imitaion of the Bee-Gees???

Anger and suicide?? Yeah........right!! I love to surf, I still love women, I have kids, I have a beautiful grandson!!! Even though we're in dire straights as a country.............why would I be interested in anger and suicide. (I'm not opposed to a little 'anger and homicide', if you catch my drift!!). I was actually watching some 'music award' thing some time ago.............and these complete morons called 'Rage Against the Machine' were 'playing' (is that called 'playing'??? Hell, those clowns wouldn't even make my band when I was a teen-ager!!!)..............it was really embarrassing and stupid - I was amazed that these guys could look themselves in the mirror...............although the mirror was probably lined up with cocaine, and they weren't really looking at themselves!!!

PS - every time I try to play slide guitar.............it sounds like a cat being strangled!!!

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Shhhh

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:18am.

Keep the Manilow stuff on the down-low. I don't want my Glee Club stressing out before the regionals.

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If you give me your lunch

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 3:09pm.

If you give me your lunch money, I won't spill the beans about your Frankie Goes to Hollywood collection.............

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Barack Obama and America's Decline

Submitted by djwolf12 on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 9:07pm.

The First time in this country's history it gets a downgrade in credit from S&P, it occurs under this current attrocity's watch in the White House. The fact that HE HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE CREDIT DOWNGRADE speaks volumes to regular Americans that Obama is HAPPY ABOUT IT. It gives him the fuel to go after the people who make over $250K, err, $175K, err, $150K, err, EVERY SINGLE WAGE EARNER NOT IN A UNION.

This president has now made it clear where he stands on America, and it is NOT ON THE SIDE OF AMERICA. When Obama starts telling the American People that Hollywood actors, actresses, and Sports Stars (like Albert Pujols, Alex Rodriguez, Mike Vick, Peyton Manning, Derek Jeter, etc) that they have to give up their $$$$$ to the underachievers out of "Inequality", then we will see them for what they are (even though we already know).

I don't see this president campaigning as Presidentent Obama in 2012. He is Campaigning as Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and Jimmy Carter.

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets". - Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver (1976).
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Korn:

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 9:17pm.

Freak on a Leash was one of the most innovative music videos of all time IMO.

Just don't ask me to explain it. But is extremely cool.

Edit: funny we just had the Mythbusters cannonball story today where it went thru TWO houses and ended up in a minivan. 

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This is surprising

Submitted by povertypimpin on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 9:52pm.

I figured Korn would be like those Marxists in Rage Against The Machine. Although as you mentioned he could be upset that Obama doesn't have a little more Hugo Chavez in him.

Aaron Lewis, the lead singer for the band Staind is conservative. He is from Massachusetts too!

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povertypimpin

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 1:14am.

agree with the Aaron Lewis thing, here he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQzw_Ax8Cw

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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One criticism, Matthew;

Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 10:36pm.

Please don't label these guys as a heavy metal band; they are an EMBARRASSMENT to metal.

You can't take a guess for another 2 hours?
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Out of curiosity, what would

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 12/08/2011 - 11:19pm.

Out of curiosity, what would you label them as?

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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They criticized Obama, that

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:08am.

They criticized Obama, that labels them as racists. ;-)

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um

Submitted by Denny Crane on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 1:49am.

Noisy? :-)

Actually they remind me of NIN.

IMO

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Pseudo-metal.

Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:03am.

That's what they are.

You can't take a guess for another 2 hours?
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True they're not technically "heavy metal"

Submitted by Matthew Sheffield on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:26am.

However, most people who are not familiar with metal in general don't care to make the distinction.

Plus the term "nu metal" is one of those silly neologisms that I don't like indulging.

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Eh, "rock band" would have been nice and generic

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:32am.

But I get your point.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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So, K-God, I'm a musician,and

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:31am.

So, K-God, I'm a musician,and I've played in many bands since I was a teenager - hell, I used to play in over-21 clubs when I was 16!!!! (Keep an eye peeled for the book...........hahahahahaha!!!).............and I date back to the original days of rock'n'roll, even though I was just a grade-schooler. I listened to everything and had all the 45's - black and white, and all points inbetween!!

But I"m over the hill now, although I can still spank the plank and sing on key.........but I'm not real sure of all the various definitions of music anymore - I just judge it on whether I find it musical, and whether I like it. And I don't know a damn thing about Korn either. But maybe you can tell me who the REAL 'heavy metal' guys are............I'm not lame - I'll be able to relate to what you're talking about.

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Killa

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:35am.

"REAL 'heavy metal'? That term has as many definitions as there are metal fans. We're a very territorial bunch, and we all think only we know what "true" metal is. :)

A real can o' worms your opening here.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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Well..............just tell

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 1:40am.

Well..............just tell me, OK?? I think AC/DC is great - I'd fly to Honolulu if they were playing, although I think their singer's voice is probably totally shot. (Why wouldn't it be???)..............I like the guys who did 'Run for the hills'..........I'm not sure of their name.
My friends opened for the Scorpians in Honolulu back in the 80's. My son used to listen to Guns'n'roses...........Poison........Motley Crue (they stole OUR name...........when we were working back in the early 80's, we used to call ourselves the Motley Crew)...
but somehow I don't think the 'heavy metal' guys accept these 'poodle-rock' types.

I dunno..........if I like it - I like it...............I don't care what it's called. I'm waiting for K-God to give me the criteria.

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Ho brah,

Submitted by Denny Crane on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 1:54am.

Dat reminds me of the time when my friend and I got kicked out of a Metallica concert at the Blaisdell. Who knew you couldn't sneak in a bottle and wave it around shouting WOOHOO!?

Be on the lookout for random acts of journalism from the MSM~h/t Rush

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Hell, Denny...........the

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 2:09am.

Hell, Denny...........the first time Hendrix came through Hawaii............EVERYBODY at the Blaisdell (which used to be called the Honolulu International Center.........HIC) was on acid!!! And we smoked pot during the concert!!! You got thrown out for drinking??
What the hell has happened to our culture, anyway???????

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Hey Killa

Submitted by Denny Crane on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 1:56am.

Howz the waves today? John John scored a perfect 10 at pipe today.

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Hanalei was about

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 2:06am.

Hanalei was about 6-8'.........which is about 10-15' faces.........kind of inconsistant and crowded. I looked during lunch. My son is coming on Sunday, so I'm trying to get my place cleaned up and organized. A couple of young guys that I know from around here did good - Evan Valierre really stood out. I know him from 'small kid time', and I surf with his dad a lot...........some other guys are from Kauai also.

I finished most of my tasks today, so hopefully tomorrow I can catch a few waves..............I wouldn't mind if it dropped a little bit!!! Hahahahaha!!! I was surfing two nights ago, and it was 8-10' faces............and I got some really good waves. But I'm not in the mood these days to get my over-the-hill ass kicked............I want to see my grandson!!! hahahahahah!!!! Did you watch the contest on the internet??

I used to surf Pipeline a lot in the 60's............very exciting and memorable!!!

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No, I was working

Submitted by Denny Crane on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 4:42am.

But I caught the news on the advertiser. 

I never was crazy enough to hit the waves on the north shore, but I used to go boogie boarding up there when the waves were in the 3 to 5 range. The shore break at Waimea is really fun when they are that big. 6-8? too big for me. 

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Iron Maiden

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 7:30am.

Iron Maiden did "Run to the Hills".

I liked GnR back in the day. Liked LA Guns too. Call me a poser.

As far as metal goes, well, obviously Slayer. Metallica was a fave for awhile. Pungent Stench has made an appearance or too in my iPhone. Apshyx was cool. Carnivore, (their singer Peter Steele, RIP, later formed Type O Negative). Death, Death Angel, Dark Angel, Cradle of Filth, Hellhammer/Celtic Frost, Cancer...

The list gets too long to go on. Lately, it's been Amorphis, Nightwish, Dream Theater, (maybe not metal, but damn good).

Oh, forgot to mention Obituary, Godflesh, White Zombie...

Of course, any number of metal fans might lambaste me for having this band or that in the list, but what can you do?

(Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Dio...)

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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Remember "Running Free" from

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:15am.

Remember "Running Free" from Maiden's first album (different singer, forget his name)? Nice galloping bass line in that one too. Getting hungry, may go grab a Megadeath sandwich and a Celtic Frost, hold the fries.

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Paul Dianno Ant

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:18am.

I liked him, but he apparently had some issues the band could not deal with.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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Killa, Iron Maiden did "Run

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 9:18am.

Killa, Iron Maiden did "Run To The Hills" from their "Number of The Beast" album. A very good album, one that Dream Theater once did live in it's entirety. 

Some other bands that one can consider "metal" or just hard rock:

Tool

Opeth

Dream Theater

These are bands that I listen to quite a lot and I have seen Opeth live.  Excellent musicians in all the bands.

I have the "Untouchables" album by Korn.  I bought it for the song "Thoughtless" (which I love) but there are other good songs on there.

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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++++ on the opeth! although

Submitted by loshonhora on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 6:51pm.

++++ on the opeth! although i saw them touring for the new album and mikael refused to use the death voice. changing your bands identity after almost 2 decades just ain't right. just start a side project. that being said, i love their new album. other awesome bands are gorod and obscura.

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I saw them touring for the

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:51pm.

I saw them touring for the new album too. (Webster Hall in NYC). There were alot of folks in the audience that wanted the old stuff and were disappointed. I knew that the new album was going to be all prog and knew what to expect.

That being said I wish they had done a few of the old numbers like "The Baying Of The Hounds" because they would have brought the house down if they did. :-)

I understand what you are saying about changing the direction the band is going in but it is their choice and the way they will know if they made the correct decision will be reflected by the fans reaction and album sales. Capitalism at its best.

I will check out those other bands you mentioned if you check out Porcupine Tree. ;-)

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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K-God

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 11:11pm.

agreed. Heavy metal is not glam bands nor rock. Big difference.

Early Megadeth comes to mind, Dave Mustain was a true visionary with Holy War.

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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Huh. Never been a fan

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:23am.

But it's good to see someone, anyone, paying attention.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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Paul McCartney "Taxman" is the Theme and Ted Nuggent the MC

Submitted by Avitar on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 2:21am.

2012 can be the first elections with a Rock and Roll hosted Debate.

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Actually, George Harrison

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 2:27am.

Actually, George Harrison wrote and performed 'Taxman', which is a rockin' song as well as great social commentary. Paul played the lead guitar.....George couldn't handle that style of playing.

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Metal

Submitted by compguytracy on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 8:25am.

Bruce dickinson btw of iron maiden have the tattoo to prove it metal has so many sub genres it almost sickenz me. I grew up with a sister 6 years older than me when she was in hs i was listening to it all vh floyd sabbath zep idol she also got sidetracked by this one hit wonder i think his name was michael jetson or something wonder what happened to him :) anyways i got older and started exploring my own likes with my sisters lps (yes, records!!!!!!) I got into quiet riot crue twisted etc ad nauseum i dont care for death metal or alot of the heavy heavy heavy but am over 40 still love loud music still going to disturbed, rush, and overkill in one year. As maiden would say up the irons. As long as there is variety there will be discourse and opinions. Just keep it simple metal up your ass!!!!!!!!

 

"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?" Orwell, 1984  

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I've been waiting to use this

Submitted by balboa on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 8:38am.

I've been waiting to use this line: Who?

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Stop listening to the

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 9:54am.

Stop listening to the regurgitated pap that passes for music now a days and you might have heard of them bal. :-) 

I could go into a whole diatribe of the poor state of music today, aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance (h/t Giles from BTVS).

I could give you a couple of bands to check out that will blow your mind with their song writing and ability to ACTUALLY play an instrument.  Bands such as:

Porcupine Tree (or anything containing their leader Steven Wilson)

Dream Theater

Opeth

Ayreon

Stream of Passion

Tool

Marillion

Joe Satriani

Those are just a fraction of the bands out there that do not have the main stream recognition due to what I feel is the dumbing down process of the listeners by the music industry, radio's and tv. 

Gotta stop now or my anger will start to get the best of me.  :-)

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Scuba,

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:10am.

What did you think of John Paul Jones' temp band Them Crooked Vultures from about a year ago with two guys from Queens of the Stone-age? I thought it was heavy in a Cream kinda way. Saw JPJ with Diamanda Gallis in a small church theatre many years ago. The man has integrity and the show was pretty darn heavy. The encore was Zep's "Communication Breakdown" with just Jonesy's bass, a drummer and Diamanda. Heavy and alternative at the same time. Just my opinion.

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ant, I will have to check

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:23am.

ant,

I will have to check them out.  Are they on YouTube?  (great place to check out bands).  Love Zeppelin, it was a shame that Plant and Page never really asked Jones to play when they got together. 

Cream is ok.  I know I will get a lot of flack for this but I really think Clapton is overrated. 

Growing up the bands I listened to were these:

Emerson, Lake & Palmer (first concert I ever went to), Jethro Tull, Genesis, Boston, Kansas, Traffic, Meatloaf, Yes and a bunch of others.  Guess you can tell I grew up during the 70's.  :-)

I just love listening to bands that actually know how to play.

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Yeah, they should be. In

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:41am.

Yeah, they should be. In fact, they were guests on SNL last year. JPJ is the man.

I grew up in the 80's, but most of us had to look back to 'get our rocks off'. Testosterone fueled teens cruisin' around just couldn't get their fill with Madonna, Culture Club, and Phil Collins. Of course we had Van Halen and ACDC, but noone can deny the power of the Zeppelin. I blame Page for making me a guitar player, when I first heard them I thought, "I've gotta make that sound!". The cool thing is it also led me to explore blues, folk, and even classical. Like you were saying before, a good deal of younger people now don't even look back past the auto-tuned pop garbage of today. I've met some kids that never heard of The Who. True story.

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Ahhh the 80's. Amazingly

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:55am.

Ahhh the 80's. Amazingly there were a few bands that I liked from that period. INXS stands out. Saw them at the Jones Beach Theater back in 87. Ranks as one of the top 5 concerts I went to. Also liked Tears for Fears, The Smiths, Joy Division, A Flock of Seagulls (don't laugh) and of course U2. I was also getting into a bit of fusion jazz like The Pat Metheny Group, Stuff and Weather Report.

Funny thing, when I was in Ireland back in August my nephews and I were  on a couple of tours and Bono's name came up in the conversation.  We got the impression that the guides did not care much for him.

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Never got into U2

Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:19am.

though I was definitely an early 80's music lover. The alternative groups like The Smiths, and the poppy Flock didn't do it for me; not after headbanging to the likes of Priest, Maiden, DefLep, Triumph, and some of the lesser known or less-aired but equally strong bands like Kix, Fastway, QueensRyche and Zebra. Before that though was Zepplin (of course), Sabbath, Nugent, etc. First concert I saw was Black Sabbath's Mob Rules- Dio's first tour with them.

Later in life, like now, I listen for the quality in the music- and certain bands really stand out. Leppard has polished their sound so well it's like an orchestra; they've got a LOT going on from five guys. Great White was known for Once Bitten, but listen to Jack Russell do Zepplin's "In the Light", the full version of "House of Broken Love" and their guitar build up in "Rock Me." They've got a great bluesy sound to them. Philly's Cinderella does too, something I didn't pick up on when I was younger.

For cruisin' around town in the 67 Camaro, street racing and, um, knocking back a bunch of pony Buds, there was nothing better than the music of 1980-1984, or so.

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How they heck could I have

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:37am.

How they heck could I have forgotten Triumph and Zebra? (smacks hand to head).  Like Rush both bands had only 3 members but they ROCKED!!!!

I was more into the Prog rock which is why I tended to gravitate towards bands that had that kind of sound.  I was not into the Priest, Maiden or other heavier bands until much later.

Now, if I were driving in a Ferrari going flat out I have the perfect song, Joe Satriani's "Back to Shalla-Bal" from his "Flying In A Blue Dream" album.  The song just screams for you to put the pedal down.  :-)

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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bkeyser and Scuba

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:57am.

True that a lot of stuff I dismissed in the past I have come to appreciate more now. I've always liked INXS's 'Don't Change'- great song. Some music I own now includes The Cure, Tears for Fears, Siousxie and the Banshees, XTC, Dire Straits, and some one-hit wonders. bkeyser, I forgot about Fastway and Queensryche, other bands like that that had at least one hit I'm forgetting also, similar to Triumph, there was a rockband from Canada that penned a hit and disappeared, like so many. All I remember is their video was on a rooftop, but that's no help.

Recently stumbled on some live Def Leppard, great version of 'Bringin' on the Heartbreak', and the audience was pumped.

Did you ever notice, any article on NB that concerns music, is soon doomed to be hi-jacked as an 'open-thread'? :-)

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Yeah ant

Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:01pm.

I've seen Queensryche in concert in the last decade and they still rock pretty hard- a Seattle band I actually like- and I saw Triumph in '86. I also saw Fastway open for Leppard's Pyromania in '83 - now that was a show. I've seen Leppard quite a few times since (I've got some photos from this year's show in Bristow, Virginia on my Flicker page; Heart opened for them) and they really do well with the older stuff.

There used to be a "Favorite YouTube Video" thread in the forums -I think created by the infamous nwahs(?)... Not sure if it was wiped with the format switch last year or not. For us music lovers, that was a nice escape from the media/politics we rail about here.

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ant, You just named my

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:04pm.

ant,

You just named my favorite INXS song. :-) I originally did not like The Cure but in recent years I have done a complete 180 on them. And Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits knew how to make that guitar sing. The end of the song "Tunnel of Love" proves that. Or as Douglas Adams said of his playing "Mark Knopfler has an extraordinary ability to make a Schecter Custom Stratocaster hoot and sing like angels on a Saturday night, exhausted from being good all week and needing a stiff drink." :-)

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Ha. That's cool, Scuba. I

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:23pm.

Ha. That's cool, Scuba. I like that quote, as well.

Nice pics, bkeyser. In fifth grade, I first heard Heart when our teacher let us bring in music for the class during our 'free time'. Once heard a quote, "The only single Zeppelin ever released was Heart's 'Barracuda'." I'm sure that's a compliment.

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Saw INXS in 1988 on the

Submitted by balboa on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 3:47pm.

Saw INXS in 1988 on the "Kick" tour. Public Image LTD opened for them.

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I know 'em. Just wanted to

Submitted by balboa on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:39am.

I know 'em. Just wanted to say that because that's what people say when a liberal celeb makes a political statement.

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:-) Who do you listen to?

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 10:47am.

:-)

Who do you listen to?

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Little of everything. Just

Submitted by balboa on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:13am.

Little of everything. Just discovered Trombone Shorty, which is pretty cool. I've been on an old Chicago kick lately. Favs of all time include Pearl Jam, Police, DMB.

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Have not heard of Trombone

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:43am.

Have not heard of Trombone Shorty and DMB?

Chicago was good until Cetera started to wussify them like Michael McDonald did to The Doobie Brothers. Pearl Jam was good but fell off after their first 3 albums and The Police were excellent!!!!

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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DMB is Dave Matthews Band.

Submitted by balboa on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:08pm.

DMB is Dave Matthews Band. Trombone Shorty is this jazz, New Orleans, funk that is pretty awesome.

Chicago stunk once the 80s came around.

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Ahhh, gotcha.  I saw Dave

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 12:17pm.

Ahhh, gotcha. 

I saw Dave Matthews about 3 years ago in Florida.  I had taken my nephew to check out Univ of Miami and he had purchased tickets to the show.  He puts on a helluva show.

I'll have to check out Trombone Shorty.  Always room for a little funk.  ;-)

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Well, it appears that you

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 3:07pm.

Well, it appears that you guys have blown this thread to shreds.................which is admirable!!! We need to expand and expound once in a while - this political stuff is such crap most of the time...............unfortunatly, it is crap that gets thrown in our face and onto our path, so we constantly have to deal with it!!!

I'm sayin' (I'm workin' on my Boy Barry homeboy accent!!) that the FIRST 'heavy-metal' sound was 'Rumble' by Link Wray - back in the 50's............that sound was unheard of prior to that. My good friend, who is also Taj Mahal's bass player, said that they have played that song - just for the hell of it - when they were on the road in Europe!!!

Lotta chatter about Zepellin here today - I saw them at a funky old roller-blade arena in Honolulu on their first US tour - before they were really well known - they shredded the place, and I could stand very close to the stage. And, yes, Page DID play a cheap little Danelectro (black and white) for a couple of numbers, which surprised the hell out of me.

Actually, if you listen to some really early electric blues records - you'll hear some pretty nasty sounds there also, probably because their equipment was so crappy - which makes for some great sounds!!!! I always liked those gritty tones WAY MORE than the damn clean/crisp/reverb induced/'white' surf tones..................although Dick Dale could be considered a combination of surf guitar and something a little heavier. I even think he did a few sides with Stevie Ray Vaughn - who could spank the plank pretty damn hard and heavy himself, as well as sing his ass off.

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This thread has gone all to

Submitted by ant on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 6:00pm.

This thread has gone all to hell, hasn't it? Just to bring up Zep one more time, ther's a scene in the documentary 'It Might Get Loud' where Page shows off his Link Wray recordings to the film-makers.

Found this last night whilst snooping around. Warning; it's kind of an earworm, but hey, at least I warned ya, even after the Frankie Goes to Hollywood jab..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXC_t_tBxo&ob=av2e

I just hope the link works.

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Ahhhh, the link didn't work,

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 1:49am.

Ahhhh, the link didn't work, ant............Page was bragging about his Link Wray collection??

Yeah, I LOVE IT when the threads just get blown up...........then things start to get REALLY interesting, because we all go to someplace that is a little more 'real' and 'personal' than the standard BS that we have to pay attention to every day. And this was a good thread, just because of the various comments from the various people.

As for my time on NB - there was a 'Raquel Welch' thread sometime last year, I think, that totally went haywire - in every possible direction - and it was pure entertainment!!! So I'm always looking for these types of things with the people here, because I always learn something and I also get a few laughs.

It's almost 8 PM here on a Friday night - I just got back from surfing until dark, and paddling in by the light of the silver moon!!!
The waves were 6-10' and pretty good.......I'm gonna catch a few more tomorrow morning before I fly to Honolulu to hook up with my Coast Guard son and then drive out to my SEAL son's house, where he and my little boy will be waiting for us!!!

Oh......you can even the score about the Frankie Goes to Hollywood thang by NOT telling everybody that I had a severe crush on Melenie, of 'Brand New Roller Skates' fame..................hell, I even had a poster of her OVER my bed!!!!

Actually, my favorite female rocker is Chrissy Hynde of the Pretenders - she's got a lot of swagger and chutzpah.

I have a pretty good quote that you might enjoy. Bonnie Riatt - noted guitarist, singer, and character - was walking into some party filled with similiar types of people. She turned to her friend and said - 'I don't want to see a face here that I haven't sat on'!!
Hahahahahahaha! I've got to give her credit for being so brazen!!!!

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Seriously? The link didn't

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 11:37am.

Seriously? The link didn't work? I can't check you-tube links from my end because I have something naughty on my computer interfering with it (no, it's not porn). Well, anyway, it was a punkish band called the Dollyrots doing their version of your old crush Melanie's 'Brand New Key'? That wasn't a coincidence that you mentioned her, was it? Spooky.

I agree 100%, it's nice to converse with all the good people here at NB on a personal level. Funny how us conservative-types rarely fit the stereotype. According to the left, not one of us knows what music is, we're all supposed to be geared up for banning it. Of course, that's projection on their part.

Have a great weekend with the family and the surf, killa! For what it's worth, I had a crush on Marie Osmond, among others.

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If you're serious about that

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 2:00pm.

If you're serious about that video being a send-up on that Melanie song, then we ARE in the damn twilight zone - because I couldn't open the link, so when I was writing the post, I was trying to come up with the most ludicrous example of a chick/song that I could think of!!! I guess it's true - sick minds think alike!!!

Marie Osmond?? Well, I never paid too much attention to her or her brothers (hey, I wasn't around a TV for about 25 years of my life)........but at least you didn't have a crush on Janis Joplin..........or Mama Cass!!! Hey, speaking of which - Michelle Phillips was a pretty sexy, winsome broad, wasn't she???

I'm gonna catch a few waves before I have to go to the airport. Have a good one yourself!!!

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Hey, killa.

Submitted by ant on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 2:28pm.

I know you're busy, but if you catch up with this thread later...yes, we are in the Twilight Zone. Between the random discovery of "A Brand New Key" and mentioning Scuba dudes favorite INXS song, maybe we should open a psychic hotline. Now if I can just stumble across some lottery numbers.....;-)

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Killa and the silvery moon.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 2:14pm.

Did you happen to view the total Lunar Eclipse, this morning 3 am or so?
I'm in the lee of the island so not to many clouds to obscure the view.

You Didn't Build That.

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I paddled in last night by

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 5:55pm.

I paddled in last night by the light of the silvery moon, but I was asleep at 3 AM. However, my painting contractor - who is a severe right wing whacko himself - took some photos and sent them to me. If you give me your email, I will forward them to you- it was a little bit orange.

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I did view the moon for a couple of hours...

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 6:08pm.

Not nearly as good as a Solar Eclipse however it was a good Lunar Eclipse , all the stars came out, saw some meteors too.

You Didn't Build That.

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While I am not "into" any of the bands, music,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 12/09/2011 - 8:47pm.

or performers mentioned in this thread (hearing difficulties), I most thoroughly enjoyed the info and reminiscing.

Thank you all for a good read.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Nobody cares that you enjoyed it, Matthew...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 2:40am.

Just throw on another 78 from your 'Best of Vaughn Monroe' collection and dream about the good ole days.

Jer

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Jer

Submitted by sentry_99 on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 4:02am.

Are you providing an example of thread stalking so we know what it is when you accuse others of doing the same? Just asking.

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Don't sweat it, sentry...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 3:17pm.

Just some good-natured ribbing of my pal, Mr. Dean.

FTR I have accused a grand total of three individuals of stalking in my 4 1/2 years here--two of whom no longer do so. If you are interested in any further info about it, you are more than welcome to PM me.

Jer

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What's that again, Jer---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/10/2011 - 5:47am.

I couldn't hear you.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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