The dim debate last night made a good drinking game.  Every time George Bush was mentioned we took a drink, don't remember the debate ending. Do they know that President Bush is not running?

I thought the best part of the debate was the Hillary cheerleaders in the audience who we're well trained to boo when any candidate said anything negative about Hillary. I'm guessing that the idea was to try to scare the other candidates into not criticizing her out of worries that the audience was against negative campaigning. But like most Hillary plots, they didn't do it quite right, and the plants booed when she was criticized but not when any other candidate was criticized, which blew the whole deal.

Kudos to Obama for talking through the boos and continuing to make his point on Clinton's BS use of numbers.

Three
contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House...

One from New Jersey, another from Tennessee and the
third Florida. They go with a White House official to examine the
fence.

The Florida contractor takes out a tape measure and
does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. "Well", he says, "I
figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and
$100 profit for me."

The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring
and figuring, then says, "I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300
for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The New Jersey contractor doesn't measure or
figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official, incredulous, says, "You didn't even
measure like the other guys!

How did you come up with such a high
figure?"

The New Jersey contractor whispers back, "$1000 for
me, $1000 for you and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the
fence."

"DONE!" Replies the government official.

And that, my friends, is how it works.

Submitted by Donna, Emmitsburg, Md.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Happy Friday everybody!-

Hillary Clinton and her driver were cruising along a country road
one evening when an ancient cow loomed in front of the car. The
driver tried to avoid it but couldn't -- the aged bovine was struck and
killed.

Hillary told her driver to go up to the farmhouse and explain to the
owners what had happened. She stayed in the car making phone calls to
lobbyists.

About an hour later the driver staggered back to the car with his
clothes in disarray. He was holding a half-empty bottle of expensive
wine in one hand, a rare, huge Cuban cigar in the other, and was smiling
happily, smeared with lipstick.

"What happened to you," asked Hillary?

"Well," the driver replied, "the farmer gave me the cigar, his
wife gave me the
wine, and their beautiful twin daughters made mad
passionate love to me!"

"My God, what did you tell them?" asked Hillary.

The driver replied, "I just stepped inside the door and said, I'm
Hillary Clinton's driver and I've just killed the old cow. The rest happened
so fast I couldn't stop it!"

...the Oregon Ducks for losing last night. I would have never thought in my lifetime my alma mater (KU) would be in the running for a FOOTBALL championship. I hope the jinx of being number 2 doesn't affect the Hawks.

Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns

I bet we get to here none stop nonesense about B Bond from now until the primaries.

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain

Q - What is the difference between a liberal and a puppy?
A -A puppy stops whining after it grows up.

I watched it yet after the first 10 minutes it dragged.

The incessant negative references to Bush by the women haters club, I cannot help but wonder who, if anyone, possesses intelligence.

The worst issue (which all share) is immigration. The next worst (a Clinton only) is the 'unelected factor'. Why isn't the competition making voters aware of the fact that they are considering both an elected individual as well as an unelected one to run the country? What has Mrs Clinton been able to do without Bubba thus far?

JDW

Sen Clinton: Distinguished Founder of Media Matters

With a weekend upon us, and the holidays forthcoming, I'd like to have you all gather round, bow your heads, and

The Beer's Prayer

Our lager,
Which art in barrels,
Hallowed be thy drink.
Thy will be drunk,
(I will be drunk),
At home as in the tavern.
Give us this day our foamy head,
And forgive us our spillages,
As we forgive those who spill against us.
And lead us not to incarceration,
But deliver us from hangovers.
For thine is the beer, The bitter and The lager.
Forever and ever,
Barmen (or Bartend)

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

""PLEASE YOUTUBE"" THE IRAN VOTE AND IRAQ WAR VET CLAPPING AGAINST ATTACKING IRAN WITH HIS MOM

 Hillary also stated that she thought the american education system served us well ?? NOT ! !

AND THE TAX CAP

Hillary votes no to win votes but she won't speak the truth. Barack has the courage to speak the truth. Citizens need everybody to have drivers liscense so they can be monitored for insurance and accidents and alcohol related deaths. He also pointed out the need to PASS an imigration bill to get those people on a path to citizenship. They will be needed to feel like americans so they can keep our social secuirty system fluid.

Hillary also got BUSTED on her statement about not RAISING THE CAP on social secuirty because she says the tax increase will hurt the middle class!

Barack stated that the 6% getting paid 97,000.00 a year is NOT THE MIDDLE CLASS !

Hillary also stated that she thought the american education system served us well ?? NOT ! !

Hillary also got BUSTED on her vote for the kyle Lieberman and the mother and the Iraq war veteran son who clapped when the rest of the candidates pointed out they were AGAINST the Kyle Lieberman bill to make the Iranian guard a terrorist organization and how the bill also allows for Bush to keep troops in iraq !!

Yes Hillary got busted BIG TIME the truth always comes out.

Thank God we have a candidate like Barack Obama who speaks the truth and doesn't shift back and forth trying to get votes. Hillarys thinking people won't catch her shifting her point of view from one location (town) to another as she lies lies lies trying to sway the american voters !!

Hillary on pakistan http://www.liberaloasis.com/2007/11/clinton_on_pakistan.php

Here's Sen. Hillary Clinton discussing Pakistan at Thursday night's debate: = http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/us/politics/15debate-transcript.html?pagewanted=print

... there's absolutely a connection between a democratic regime and heightened security for the United States. That's what's so tragic about this situation. After 9/11, President Bush had a chance to chart a different course, both in Pakistan and in Afghanistan, and could have been very clear about what our expectations were. We are now in a bind, and it is partly -- not completely, but partly -- a result of the failed policies of the Bush administration.

So, where we are today means that we have to say to President Musharraf: Look, this is not in your interest either. This is not in the interest of the United States. It is not in your interest to either stay in power or stay alive.

Sure sounds like she wished Bush pushed for democratic reform in Pakistan, instead of propping up Musharraf's dictatorship.

But here's what she said in a debate from August, = http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/us/politics/07demsforum.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

when criticizing Sen. Barack Obama's pledge to strike terrorists in Pakistan's border region if Musharraf would not act on actionable intelligence:

I think it is a very big mistake to telegraph that and to destabilize the Musharraf regime, which is fighting for its life against the Islamic extremists who are in bed with al Qaeda and Taliban.
Of course, as everyone now knows, Musharraf is primarily fighting for his life against lawyers and judges, not the tribal militants.

Sen. Clinton is not alone among Dem candidates in supporting Musharraf.

Both Sen. John Edwards and Sen. Chris Dodd have expressed support for Musharraf to maintain "stability."

Whereas Obama, Gov. Bill Richardson and Sen. Joe Biden = http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3498294

have been more consistent in supporting democratic principles.

another poll:

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=996

Who do you think won the CNN News Las Vegas Democratic Debate at the University of Nevada?

Joe Biden

7.6%

Dennis Kucinich

7.3%

Barack Obama

58%

Chris Dodd

1.1%

John Edwards

6.3%

Bill Richardson

4.9%

Hillary Clinton

15%

So far, Barack is ahead in both:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=996

Question 4:
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Who had the most disappointing performance at the debate?
1. Bill Richardson
46%
14343 votes
2. Hillary Clinton
13%
4056 votes
3. Mike Gravel
11%
3545 votes
4. Barack Obama
10%
3037 votes
5. John Edwards
7%
2061 votes
6. Dennis Kucinich
6%
1970 votes
7. Chris Dodd
4%
1291 votes
8. Joe Biden
4%
1157 votes
Total:
31460 votes

Question 6:
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Whose campaign got the biggest boost from the debate?
1. Barack Obama
32%
10075 votes
2. Joe Biden
25%
7726 votes
3. Hillary Clinton
14%
4255 votes
4. John Edwards
13%
4132 votes
5. Dennis Kucinich
6%
1752 votes
6. Bill Richardson
4%
1338 votes
7. Mike Gravel
4%
1333 votes
8. Chris Dodd
3%
849 votes
Total:
31460 votes

Question 1:
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Who do you think won the debate?
1. Barack Obama
33%
10516 votes
2. Hillary Clinton
31%
9644 votes
3. John Edwards
13%
4162 votes
4. Joe Biden
12%
3907 votes
5. Dennis Kucinich
4%
1269 votes
6. Mike Gravel
3%
1028 votes
7. Bill Richardson
2%
715 votes
8. Chris Dodd
1%
219 votes
Total:
31460 votes

Question 3:
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Who had the best one-liner or comeback?
1. Barack Obama
56%
17749 votes
2. Hillary Clinton
14%
4310 votes
3. Joe Biden
9%
2840 votes
4. Mike Gravel
7%
2141 votes
5. John Edwards
7%
2139 votes
6. Dennis Kucinich
4%
1287 votes
7. Bill Richardson
2%
574 votes
8. Chris Dodd
1%
420 votes
Total:
31460 votes

YouPoll
Who do you think won the CNN News Las Vegas Democratic Debate at the University of Nevada?
Joe Biden
9.2%
Dennis Kucinich
7.7%
Barack Obama
58%
Chris Dodd
1%
John Edwards
4.6%
Bill Richardson
3.4%
Hillary Clinton
16%
You voted: Barack Obama