Global Warming: Now the Media Get Religion

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In recent years, the liberal press has become increasingly upset with conservative religious people who maintain the rightfulness of having their political views stem from their religious ones on issues like abortion, gay rights, and welfare. Such views, according to the media, are illegitmate and even threaten the balance of church and state within our society.

Trouble is, though, liberal journalists don't apply this standard consistently. While the media are adamantly opposed to religious motivations on cultural issues, rarely do you hear the media grouse about Christians and Jews who oppose capital punishment on religious grounds. That's because religion is like anything else to the radical left--a means to an end. In the eyes of the media, the moral value of anything or anyone is directly proportional to its usefulness to liberalism.

It's for this reason that I highly doubt you'll hear any complaints from the press gallery about the latest initiative of Pope Benedict XVI, promoting the idea of human-caused global warming:

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The Pope is expected to use his first address to the United Nations to deliver a powerful warning over climate change in a move to adopt protection of the environment as a "moral" cause for the Catholic Church and its billion-strong following.

The New York speech is likely to contain an appeal for sustainable development, and it will follow an unprecedented Encyclical (a message to the wider church) on the subject, senior diplomatic sources have told The Independent.

It will act as the centrepiece of a US visit scheduled for next April – the first by Benedict XVI, and the first Papal visit since 1999 – and round off an environmental blitz at the Vatican, in which the Pope has personally led moves to emphasise green issues based on the belief that climate change is affecting the poorest people on the planet, and the principle that believers have a duty to "protect creation." [...]

It also follows a series of interventions by the Pope on the environment. On 2 September he told a 300,000 youth audience: "Before it is too late, it is necessary to make courageous decisions that reflect knowing how to re-create a strong alliance between man and the earth." On 7 September, he said there was a "pressing need for science and religion to work together to safeguard the gifts of nature and to promote responsible stewardship."

Hat tip: James Dellinger.

If the media were consistent in believing in separation of church and state, we'd see some complaints like these MRC found in the coverage of a 1994 world conference on "overpopulation." At that conference, the Vatican stood as a strong opponent of contraceptives and abortion, the solution being proferred by extreme environmentalists. For this it was condemned by the American press, in other words, a total opposite of today where the Catholic church is being hailed for its religious opinions.

An excerpt from the study:

On September 2, "CNN World News" anchor Bobbie Battista introduced coverage of the Cairo conference: "The Catholic Church is unflinching in its opposition to birth control and abortion. But when a new CNN/Time Magazine poll asked U.S. Catholics if they should always obey those Church teachings, 80 percent said no. Fewer than a quarter of those polled believe artificial means of birth control are wrong. And the attitudes of U.S. Catholics closely match those of the general population." As Newsweek religion reporter Kenneth Woodward has pointed out, "If you include only the people who've been to church at least once in the last month, they're far more open and receptive to what the church teaches." [...]

The Catholic Church also drew disdain from the networks for "distracting" the Cairo conference with their anti-abortion stance. Citing a "nasty fight" between President Clinton and the Pope, Martha Teichner remarked on September 3: "The security in effect for the U.N. Population Conference in Cairo is the kind used to prevent aircraft hijackings. But so far, the only hijacking taking place is of the agenda."

ABC repeatedly demonstrated a hostility to religious objections to the U.N. consensus. On September 4, Jim Bitterman hailed Al Gore's arrival in Cairo as a hero pitted against punitive religious forces:

"Not the threat of Muslim violence, not the wrath of Christian leaders at home and abroad, not even heel surgery could keep Vice-President Gore from leading the U.S. delegation at the Cairo population conference....No further than just outside the conference halls, even modest Western-style efforts like this television ad campaign to sell family planning, sometimes run headlong into religious and cultural opposition. But the real world just outside is proof too of the reason for a conference such as this."

Three days later, Peter Jennings announced: "In Cairo, the Pope's representatives are causing tempers to flare at the World Population Conference as the Vatican holds to its uncompromising position on abortion. ABC's Jim Bittermann reports from there that what on the surface appears to be a debate over a few words has badly distracted from the conference's overall mission."

Bitterman reported: "Vatican representatives at the population conference were today being cast in the role of spoiler, their stubborn style angering fellow delegates....And delegates weren't the only ones frustrated. Thousands of activists who came here to push causes from the environment to women's rights, have been ignored as the representatives from 182 nations spend their time and energy debating the abortion issue."

On NBC's "Today" show September 6, correspondent Tom Aspell cast the controversy as "Third World conservative countries against those in the West favoring free choice for women."

On the whole, the networks spent less time explaining religious objections to the conference than they did explaining the secular beliefs of the environmentalist left of an approaching doom of overpopulation. In light of this doom-laden scenario, the networks cast theological opposition to abortion at Cairo as a disturbing and rigid inconvenience.

—Matthew Sheffield is the creator of NewsBusters and its Executive Editor.


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..."it is necessary to make

..."it is necessary to make courageous decisions that reflect knowing how to re-create a strong alliance between man and the earth..."

But: Will the Vatican buy Al Gore Carbon Offsets?". Perhaps they will join the marketing plan...

After all, an 'indulgence' is an indulgence.

Dey gots esperience! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

}}---> Pope's Carbon offsets

The Vatican is already buying Carbon Offsets.  Paying for its sins of pollution by planting a forest and covering the basilica roof with solar panels.  They are way ahead you when it comes to foolish wastes of the Catholic tithe.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

}}---> Thank you Matt

I honestly intended to question NewsBusters on this tonight.

This Article had me fuming last night when I read it at work.  (I don't log in at work, but I do stay caught up)

When the Pope calls driving a car "murder" and calls for an end to the automobile, I can only judge The Church has elected a serious politician raqther than a man of God.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Is he crazy? A world-wide

Is he crazy?

A world-wide car ban?

Is that going to include his Pope-mobile? (sp)

How can he possible say this is murder with the cancer ect?

Bad enough that some in the Church want us to look the other way for illegal immigration.

I am starting to get angry now also.

Pope Charlatan's angle

Notice how he slams away at the USA?  He knows he can have the Third World by the ear if he keeps up with the not so subtle denunciation of those evil American Capitalists.

Islam is doing the same thing in their Madrassahs with the lie that there is a limited amount of wealth in the world and the reason for their poverty is that the West controls it.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

No more Hot-Rods? Sorry

No more Hot-Rods?

Sorry Pope, this is one area that you and I totally disagree. If I can't have my carbon belching hot-rods I may as well give up on living. 

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If my understanding of

If my understanding of Canon Law is correct. The pope speaks infallibly only when he speaks in matters of faith and in conjunction with the college of cardinals. Which I believe has happened three times in church history. (Any priest on line please correct me if I err.)

I believe the pope as a whole to be a man of faith. An honerable man. A concerned man. And often a wise man. However that doesn't mean we can't disagree with him. This is a matter of science.

However. As I believe the pope is a honerable man. I do believe he and the church will do something and live through example. Unlike Al Gore or Hollywood or most environmentalist. 

As Galileo Galilei said. “Eppur si muove!" (And yet it moves!)

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

}}---> Don't care about "ex cathedra"

Fact remains, danbo, he called you a murderer.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

If my memory is correct the

If my memory is correct the arch-bishop of canterbury did about the same a few months ago. Then flew on a plane.

The church also burned the the cathars at the stake after launching the Albigensian Crusade. What happened to St Christopher? Who killed Joan of Arc? (She was tried and executed for heresy.)

Sometimes, they're wrong. 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

}}---> Memory is correct danbo

But it's OK, they canonized Joan of Arc after they murdered her.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

CA Ya got a thin skin guy.

CA Ya got a thin skin guy. The warmers have called us all kinds of names.  

History and time are on our side.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Sounds like a matter of faith to me.

He is telling you how you are sinning when he says, "Loving yourself and loving your neighbor does not include poisoning
yourself and your neighbor to death and extinction with your car. When
the earth returns to its original pristine pure clean condition your
children and grandchildren will thank God that you stopped buying cars
today."

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}}---> Exactly, Baker

Taking a page from the not so distant shameful Vatican past.  Creating a mortal sin (no meat on Fridays) is very much in line with "driving is murder".

Notice he doesn't even bother to mention Jesus.  He's forgotten Jesus. Jesus is so yesterday, don't you think?

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

The sinful part

Since one part of this has been debunked, let's deal the other part:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?s=79f2c4730121cc048b02804585cbd413&t=67830&

To keep it simple. If I

To keep it simple. If I kill through the use of oil. Say I decide not to make Pina Coladas. As the ingredients all come from the tropics. And have to be shipped to me. 

If I do that. Not only will there be less work for the ships, and trucks, and oil companies. But less work for the pineapple growers, the coconut growers, and sugar workers in the tropics. How many people will starve in the poorest part of the world by my decision to not drink Pina Coladas?

I'm practiceing good love of mankind by giving all those poor people of the tropics a job. And a chance to get out of poverty.

It's easy to complain about the envirionment when you have a full stomach. 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Help me, Danbo!

The warmers are over-running my home!

And while you're at it, pour me a pina colada.

Sorry dan...I just read the post to which you responded, and couldnt keep the snark down.

You are far, far too kind...sir. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

With or without a cherry on

With or without a cherry on top? Should we give the Mexican Cherry pickers jobs too? 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Blonde. Sorry. Forgot to

Blonde. Sorry. Forgot to tell you. I loved the clip on burning water.

Fits in with what I've been predicting. I keep saying bio fuel is unpetrified copolite. The real future is in our most abundant fuel. Hydrogen. We just didn't have the technology yet. That guy may have found it.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Not a priest, but life-long

Not a priest, but life-long Catholic. You are mostly correct, but it doesn't have to be in conjunction with the College of Cardinals. He is only infallible when he speaks on matters of faith and morals, and makes it clear that he is speaking "ex cathedra"..i.e. "from the Chair", meaning in his official capacity as the Head of the Catholic Church.

}}---> right, motherbelt

So you are OK with the head of your church calling you a murderer?  Seems to me he would at least pray about it before making such an inane observation.

I used to hide behind that "wasn't spoken ex cathedra so it doesn't count" nonsense back before I was released from Catholic bondage.

His statements are indefensible from a salvation point of view, but salvation isn't something he's heretofore been particularly interested in.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Cool arrow, I was just

Cool arrow, I was just trying to help clarify the particulars of "infallible teaching."

You sound to me a lot like Phil Donahue, another lapsed Catholic. He too is bitter and has not said a good word about the Church since he left.

I didn't, and don't, intend to get into an argument about Catholic doctrine. You are welcome to enjoy your "release from Catholic bondage."

 

}}---> Sorry mb

But your assessment of infallibility was addressed already by danbo several posts up.

It's my contention that a man who claims the "right" to speak directly for God would clearly delineate between what is God and what is personal "feeeelinngs"

When he calls driving "murder", don't you think he's ask God first before condemning so many people.

Observation - either he is a man of God or he's not.  OT Prophets were required to be 100% accurate.

Here's a question for you.  Doesn't your claiming my enlightenment is "bitter"ness make you feel a little bit smug?  Can't you take my statement at face value.  Sorry your friend is bitter. 

I used to be a Democrat.  I'm not bitter, just enlightened.  My disdain for Liberal thought isn't a result of having once been hoodwinked, it's a result of careful observation.

Are you bitter about something?  Are you unable to make observations from life circumstances without being bitter?  Your assessment is obviously a good detour from the subject, though.  Bravo.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

I used to hide behind that

I used to hide behind that "wasn't spoken ex cathedra so it doesn't count" nonsense back before I was released from Catholic bondage.- Cool Arrow

I didn't "claim your enlightenment is bitter"...I said that statement sounds bitter (due to your use of the words "nonsense" and "Catholic bondage"). I don't know your true state, any more than you know mine. I am not bitter; I simply choose not to get into an argument about the Pope and the Catholic Church. Those never seem to resolve anything.

Have a good night.

You didn't claim?

"You sound to me a lot like Phil Donahue, another lapsed Catholic. He too is bitter and has not said a good word about the Church since he left."

So you were saying ... what?

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Ok, I didn't realize I

Ok, I didn't realize I had put it that way. Touche.

 

}}---> motherbelt

I do stand corrected by stratman that there is no other corroberation of the story I brought to the table (that the Pope calls drivers murderers).

Hey, it was on Drudge, it must be true, right?

Anyway, it would be disengenuous of me to let that big tidbit fester.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

delete double

delete double

Pot meet kettle

Doesn't your claiming my enlightenment is "bitter"ness make you feel a little bit smug? 

Cool, sounds as though you're the one suffering from 'smugness'.

Haven't had a chance to read what the pope wrote/said but if the above is accurate then it's a dopey thing to say/do.  The pope should concern himself with firing a few bishops (Mahoney, Hubbard etc.) rather than get into this nonsense.

 The Church has always had and will always have corrupt clerics & laymen (not claiming the present pope is corrupt).  I think it will take a few more years before the Vatican II mindset goes by the wayside and we return to getting some serious CATHOLIC thinking back in the Vatican.  Until then, we'll hear drival like this(assuming that what is being reported is accurate).

Yes. I went through 12

Yes. I went through 12 years of catholic schools. I was told of the in conjunction with the college of cardinals by a priest I knew. (I could be wrong on that but I believe it is correct. Or I could have been told wrong.)

I believe the three times the pope spoke infallibly were on the trinity, the immaculate conception and that Christ rose from the dead or that he rose into heaven. 

But this has been stashed in my brain for a very long time. So it may be a bit off.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

"rose into heaven" tripped

"rose into heaven" tripped a memory switch for me. I believe the last time a Pope spoke "ex cathedra" on a matter of dogma was in the 1940's or early 50's regarding the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into heaven, body and soul.

 

 

}}---> Ex Cathedra

Both referred to Mary.

  • Immaculate Conception - that Mary (not Jesus) was the first perfect being born without sin.

  • Assumption - That Mary never died but was "assumed" into heaven through a miracle.

No other pronouncements I'm aware of.  Enough of dogma before Matt tells us (rightfully so) to take it to the woodshed.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

I believe the Trinity came

I believe the Trinity came out of Nicea. (The Nicene Creed) As such would also be in conjunction with what was then the equivilent of the college of cardinals. (The Church).

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

}}---> Too far back danbo

"Infallibility" was proclaimed as a dogma of the Church in 1870.

Seems the Church didn't discover it for almost two milllennia and suddenly, just when they needed to deify Mary, there it was.  Had been all along, I guess.

Nicea predates the proclamation bay a year or two, wouldn't you say?

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

By about 1500.  "There

By about 1500

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

Don't Think So

Cool Arrow:

I have looked on Google for supportive articles as the one you link that purports Pope Benedict calling for a worldwide Car boycott, speaking specifically about barrels of oil consumption, to stop buying cars, or "cancer chemicals shot out of a car’s exhaust pipe hits a man, woman or child and then explodes inside of that person 10 years later in the form of a deadly cancer which eats the person alive from the inside until they die a prolonged and agonizing death" sort of hyperbole.

There are ZERO major media outlets which corroborate this "story".  Besides the link you offered, I found reposts, quotes or reworked storylines from here (attributed to a Karen Fish affiliated (?) with The Temple of Love and The International Society for the Study of Religion Nature and Culture.), here, and several mirror sites like Netscape.

If this were true, every MSM outlet in the USA would lead with it until our ears bled and we would still not have heard the end of it.

The Guardian has an article which states:

At a Vatican conference on climate change, Pope Benedict urged bishops, scientists and politicians - including UK environment secretary David Miliband - to "respect creation" while "focusing on the needs of sustainable development".

That is about as strong as any Pope has every been about AGW.  The Church affirms that the Earth may be used for the betterment of Man but we must be good stewards of the planet, God's Creation.  Nothing about cancer or auto boycotts.

I think the link you provided is pure propaganda.  Every hit on Google appears traceable back to the 'Karen Fish' piece in some fashion.  The language is too fantastical and simplistic for a speech given by the Pope in my opinion.  Can you come up with something more substantial as corroborating evidence?  This would be a blockbuster if true.

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

Stratman

I did similarly immediately( no google tho - just the weird link at the bottom of her speil) and thought the Temple of Love was one of sun myung moon's kookfest sites.

 I did however score a good pic of a great singer.(scroll down) 

She looks marvelous.

http://www.thetempleoflove.com/wst_page7.html

Here is intial the kookfest at that page 5 or 7html...

Who Murdered Jesus?

    
      Who cares? Well, you should. The belief by the Christians that the Jews murdered their God of Mount Sinai, Jesus, is a belief that just kills and keeps on killing and will continue to kill until life on Earth is no more. It has already caused the Crusades, the 3 Inquisitions, the Pogroms, the death of 20 million Christians and Jews in World War 2 (The War Against the Jews) and is even money to trigger the Apocalypse - human extinction forever on Earth - the end of the world. The next time Israel is attacked it will fire back with a large nuclear arsenal that will poison the Earth’s 1 circular sky. Why don’t you use your own mind and apply the facts to the law and decide for yourself who murdered Jesus. ]

So, that's how authentic it is, astrologicially speaking, of course.

 It always amazes me that the kookfester's forget that Jesus was/is INRI, not sure what Hebrew means to them. NUTTERS.

 

 

I'll add they are a bunch

I'll add they are a bunch of whackadoodles.

Nice picture of Mariah though.

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

"promote responsible stewardship."

Gee, I try to extend responsible stewardship over my family, my dogs and the cat. They all have a tendency to tell me where to go when they decide differently. Especially, "Hell Cat".

I'm not aruging we couldn't do some things better.  But, fact is, we live in nature and on the planet. We're not nature's lord and master. Nature has far greater stewardship over us, than we do over nature. And nature usually does it's own thing. And often tells us what to do. 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

}}---> Sorry, Danbo

Popo Gigio calls you a murderer.  Let's deal with your sin and see if you can in some way atone for it.  This charlatan wants a major piece of the coming Carbon Tax.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Let's Protect the Environment without killing paychecks

Lets make a Conservative Plan to stop Environmental damge.

I would make a 100% tax on energy wasters like movies, video games, and televised sports.

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}}---> It's more than your paycheck

Pope Charlatan wants to control your politics as well.  He's jealous of Al Gore's notoriety and he's doubtless aware of preachers making money on TV from Vitamins and Bowel Cleansing.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Very True which makes voting a tough decision

How do people choose from the pro-life republicans, and environment saving democrats.

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Ease off

He's entitled to an opinion however wrong we may think it to be.

No need to resort to personal insults.

}}---> Matt

He's taking a "secular religion" (AGW) and claiming it as the burden of all Catholics for the purpose of material gain.

Can I personally insult him when he has the full force of the EU and the Arab World behind him?  Must I wait till then?  That's when I get my head cut off, isn't it?

Sorry, but I got taken in by Jimmy Carter back in 76.  I've seen the rise of foolishness before. 

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Thank you, Matt. Tempers do

Thank you, Mr. Sheffield. Tempers do get hot at times, but I agree personal insults are unnecessary.

Not Video games!

Or football.Well go ahead and do Xboxs they are killing CRPGs.

As far as

"Lets make a Conservative Plan to stop Environmental damge." 

That isnt a bad idea.There is nothing wrong with being a  environmentalist.It is the extremist like Gore and those yutts that spike trees.Nuclear power would be important because it would help wean us off oil from the middle east.Also I think windmills in MA around Teds place would be a excellant start.Maybe Al could put some up on one of his 3 places in Tenn.It might lower that 30 k power bill.Alaska has oil so leave some viagra out for the critters if they are haveing a problem mating but start drilling.

 

Daniel, you think too

Daniel, you think too small. Did not the anti-gunners in Congress propose a 1000% tax on ammunition? Why not a 1000% tax on movies, video games, telelvised sports, gasoline, jet fuel, lumber, steel, coal, electricity, etc.?

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

did't say the other day global warming is a liberal religion

they want to post any idol of worship on the alter of socialism to scare the masses into buying the failed plan of that political nightmare. global warming is and always has been a scare tactic, a bogeyman, a monster under the bed used to scare gullible people away from capitolism and into socialism. that is what global warming has always hinged itself on, the destruction of a productive individual achievment capitolistic ideology, to an everyone must be equally miserible nobody can be better than anyone else hive lifestyle, with the exception of the great elite leaders lving high in exaltation telling us all how to live our lowly we're too stooopid to manage our own lives. that is the fundamental goal of global warmin, to tear down free market capitolism, and instill a big government beuraucratic nothing shall change static life for all.

lunaticcringeradio

quite frankly

i'm more worried about that errant meteorite that we should be looking for than the fairy story of global warming. go visit meteor crater on I-40 east of flagstaff arizona. it'll make you think about what real dangers there are out there over these fake political three card monty games the liberals are playing with global warming.

lunaticcringeradio

Pope Benedict XVI

While not a Catholic, I still respect the Pope as being a true Man of God.

However, I would prefer that he stick to matters pertaining to spiritual concerns, as I firmly believe (assuming the time-line laid out in the Bible is correct) we are rapidly approaching the time when a little pollution being emitted from car exhaust pipes isn't going to amount to a pile of beans compared to what's coming.

Some of you here KWIM. :-O


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

}}---> Ed Zackly Dave R

Except I'm convinced the papacy will be very much involved in the coming rumble.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Cool,

Ah, yes. The one who misses the "big snatch."

I think there is one more to go. Or is it two?

Need to brush up on that, I do.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

I don't know either Dave R

Seems St. Barnacle (or whoever it was who described a whole litany of Popes) stopped with this one.  Not sure if it's this Gaia worshipper or the next.

Good catch.  Anybody else know the answer?

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Cool Arrow

It was Saint Malachy who predicted a list of popes. Benedict XVI is supposed to be next to last. Malachy said some dude named "Petrus Romanus" (Peter the Roman) would be the last pope.

Even so.........

 

 

}}---> Petrus Romanus

Thanks.  I knew it was something like that but couldn't remember the saint of the pope.

Barnicle, I got from Spongebob.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

The poor dear man is---

The poor dear man is---burning some really strange incense. He needs to get ourt and get some fresh air. I am a Catholic but I do not ask the Pope which are the best walking shoes in the market.

They tried this sh-- with Galileo. Whoops--they were wrong!

Infallibility needed to get the truth of global warming

If the whole human race is about to die because of their brothers, I would hope he would speak infallibly and make sure everybody knew.

 

Being the environmentalist

Being the environmentalist have spoken infallibly on DDT and banned it for how many years. On who's hands is the blood of the 95 million that died because of that act resting.

Environmentalist have bloody, dirty hands.

Yet they speak so eloquently about the good they did.

The blood of the millions who will die of starvation because of the half baked AGW jumk science will be on the hands of those who preach about concern for others.  

We're seeing white washed tombs preaching as they destroy the poorest of us.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

}}---> I was wrong, strat (and everybody else)

I also went surfing for corroberation of the Fish story and could find none.

You are correct in correcting me.  There is no other reference available that the Pope called car drivers murderers.

mea culpa.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

I can respect that Cool

I can respect that Cool Arrow. 

We've all run with a juicy flame-broiled whopper of a "Fish" story at some time.

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

No, he is not a

No, he is not a climatologist or even a scientist.  But, neither does he believe, apparently, in democracy as he has repeatedly denigrated the United States' efforts to depose the murdering thug Hussein and our continuing world-wide battle against islamofascism. 

News flash - the Pope is a liberal . . .

Move along . . .

Nothing to see here . . .

Pope posture on 'global warming'

I wonder which 'scientist' advises him. As one who destroyed her capability for procreation by NOT following the Church's teaching and using a Dalkon Shield, I only wish I had followed the Church's advice on birth control. As to his opinion on 'global climate,' I'll use my own well-trained scientific background to make my decisions. BTW, isn't 'global climate' something we've experienced since the earth cooled and Adam and Eve arrived?

To the extent that AGW is a religion

This has been a successful strategy for eons. We all know the real story behind the Christmas Tree's pre-Christ origins, and absorbing that tradition obviously worked for the Church. In that sense, this is very similar, except that it's likely to have a lot more impact than causing a bunch of Christmas-tree-farmers...
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

AGW IS A RELIGION

This is a fallacious attempt by the Pope to lure people back to his church. They received a bump in 1999-2000 from the fence sitting "end of the worlder's" (please note: it didn't happen ... again). Then the church lost many of their flock over corruption and the molestation scandal which ensued shortly thereafter.  

Where's the best place to find lost souls fast?

Welcome to The AGW Wing of the Catholic Church. 

Instead of relying on hearsay

Instead of relying on hearsay, why don't you do some Googling of reliable sites to find out:

What Indulgences are and what they are not:

http://www.catholic....
http://www.catholic....

What Infallibility is and what it is not:

http://www.catholic....
http://www.catholic....

The "Only Two Instances" myth:

http://jimmyakin.typ...

See, Google isn't broke.

Slander against Pope Benedict

This entire thread is a false and underhanded slander against Pope Benedict. He did not say what the "article" cited by Cool Arrow attributes to him. Furthermore, it is inconceivable that he would say what he is alleged to have said, i.e. that pollution is murder and all cars should be banned.

Cool Arrow, either by deception or stupidity you have perpetrated a slander against Pope Benedict and you ought to retract it and ask the moderator to delete the offending posts.

If you have a quarrel with Catholics, have enough cajones to debate honestly and do not soil the leader of the 1.1 billion Catholics with falsehoods. You're welcome to http://forums.cathol... or http://jimmyakin.org... to discuss your issues in an open and honest way. Your trolling here is nothing less than cowardly.  Get your head out of the garbage can and stop consuming anti-catholic trash.

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