CBS's Hill Lobbies Bachmann For DREAM Act-Type Amnesty
On Friday's Early Show, CBS's Erica Hill advocated for a liberal pet cause, urging Michele Bachmann to allow children of illegal aliens to receive in-state college tuition. Hill also spotlighted Gov. Rick Perry's attack on his competitors in the GOP presidential race on this issue: "Basically, [Perry is] saying to the other eight folks on the stage there, including yourself, that you don't have a heart."
The anchor raised the immigration issue towards the end of her interview of the Minnesota representative. Hill first quoted Gov. Perry's line on the in-state tuition issue from the previous night's debate: "He said, 'If you say we should not educate children who come into our state by no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart.'" She then made a budget-based appeal to the Republican: "I know you said you don't want any resources to go to illegal aliens or their children. Why not, though, give them a tuition break now, rather then, perhaps, down the line, having to hand over unemployment, or even welfare?"
When Bachmann replied, "We shouldn't be benefitting people who are violating our laws," Hill actually interrupted her guest midway through her answer: "Even if it wasn't their own choice? These are children, as Governor Perry said, who were brought here by their parents without any knowledge."
More than three months earlier, the CBS anchor hounded another Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, over his 2008 proposal to allow the Big Three auto companies go into bankruptcy instead of bailing them out: "Based on what we've seen in the auto industry, weren't you wrong in this case?"
Hill also continues the trend of the Big Three networks throwing liberal questions during their morning show interviews of GOP presidential candidates. A MRC study released on Thursday found that 83% of the "ideological questions" asked of these Republicans between January 1 and September 15, 2011 reflected a liberal policy agenda.
The full transcript of Erica Hill's interview of Rep. Michele Bachmann, which aired at the top of the 8 am Eastern hour:
ERICA HILL: As we've been reporting this morning, nine Republican presidential candidates squared off in Orlando last night, the third debate in as many weeks, battling over everything from illegal immigration to Social Security. At one point, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann made a pitch to GOP voters, saying think carefully about just what kind of candidate you want to represent you.
REP. MICHELE BACHMANN, 2012 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (from Republican presidential debate in Orlando, Florida): Every four years, conservatives are told that we have to settle and it's anybody but obama. That's what we're hearing this year. I don't think that's true. We need to choose a candidate who represents conservatives and constitutional conservative positions.
[CBS News Graphic: "Race For 2012: Bachmann On Right For GOP Nomination"]
HILL: Michele Bachmann making her case there. She joins us this morning from Orlando. Congresswoman, good to have you with us.
BACHMANN: Good morning! It's a beautiful morning, Erica.
HILL: It looks like it is there in Orlando. There's been so much talk, of course, over the last few weeks, and since Rick Perry jumped into the race, that this has essentially become a two-man race between Romney and Perry- the numbers starting to reflect that. How do you then change that perception, because you have said, you're in it for the long haul?
BACHMANN: You're right, I am in it for the long haul, and remember, there's only been one true vote so far where all of the candidates were competitive. That was in the Iowa straw poll- or at least the majority of the candidates were competitive- and when the voters went out to cast their ballot, I won the Iowa straw poll. We're in this for the marathon, for the long haul. So we're in it to win in Iowa, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Florida. And so, those primary and caucus states we're focusing on, and we've been active and we're on our way, as soon as we're done here this morning.
HILL: In terms of Florida, there is a straw poll there coming up this weekend. It's accurately predicted the primary pick the last three times. And, yet, after Iowa, one of your spokespeople said, we're not as concerned with that poll. Has that changed for you in the campaign?
BACHMANN: Wel, we're not actively participating in the straw poll, neither is Mitt Romney. I think there's other candidates that aren't participating either. I think it was a very late entry for a couple of candidates. We can't participate in all of those polls, but the one that really counted, when the general public was allowed to vote, that was in Iowa's straw poll. The Florida straw poll is a very small poll with pre-selected delegates. It's very different than the Iowa straw poll.
HILL: There's been a lot of talk about your campaign. An article just this morning saying that you haven't been able to bring in big donors. Your former campaign manager, of course, Ed Rollins, speaking out a lot, saying you may not have the resources to go beyond Iowa, but that he is still advising your campaign. Talk to me about those two issues. What about bringing in big donors, first of all? How are you faring on that?
BACHMANN: Well, of course, we're actively pursuing the resources that we need, and we have them. We're actively working all across the country, and my former campaign manager was on television this week, as well, saying that I'm the best candidate in the race, and we're doing really well. And I think the reason is because of the positive message for pro-growth policies. What people are interested in is, who can best turn the economy around? I'm a former federal tax litigation attorney. I've started a small business. I'm a private businesswoman. I understand the problems with the economy, how we turn them around. But even more importantly, I understand job creation because I've done it in the real world.
We need to have a presidential nominee who understands the economy and job creation, and I'm committed to- the number one job killer in the United States, according to a UBS study that came out this week: ObamaCare. And I will repeal ObamaCare and open credit up. I'm the person who introduced the bill to repeal Dodd-Frank, which is killing credit for businesses and people that want a mortgage.
HILL: Obviously, the economy, the number one issue for most Americans. Immigration is also becoming increasingly important, getting more attention-
BACHMMAN: Yeah-
HILL: That was a focus last night. Rick Perry- and I want to quote here- said he took a little heat for in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants in Texas, and he said, 'If you say we should not educate children who come into our state by no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart.' Basically, saying to the other eight folks on the stage there, including yourself, that you don't have a heart. In some ways, I know you said you don't want any resources to go to illegal aliens or their children. Why not, though, give them a tuition break now, rather then, perhaps, down the line, having to hand over unemployment, or even welfare?
[CBS News Graphic: "Race For 2012: Bachmann On Illegal Immigration"]
BACHMANN: Well, because we have laws in this country, to secure our borders, and unfortunately, those laws are being violated. We shouldn't be benefitting people who are violating our laws. What I hear-
HILL: Even if it wasn't their own choice? These are children, as Governor Perry said, who were brought here by their parents without any knowledge.
BACHMANN: Well- and again, if a student comes from any other state into Texas, they pay out-of-state tuition. And, as was brought up in the debate last night, that's $88,000 worth of taxpayer-subsidized value that the people of Texas are giving to individuals who come in. It's a magnet. That's really the point of this. We're inducing more people to break the law by giving them inducements, and if someone comes into this state, they can subsequently also obtain other benefits, on occasion, as well. And so, we don't want to have any inducements that will be a magnet to induce more people to come into the United States illegally.
What we have to do, quite frankly, is support United States sovereignty and build the fence. That's what Governor Perry said- he would not build a fence. He would continue to give taxpayer-subsidized benefits to illegal aliens. This is not what the people of the United States want, and that's why this was such a crucial issue last night.
HILL: Congresswoman, we will continue this discussion, I'm sure, over the next few months. Thanks for being with us this morning.
BACHMANN: Thank you.
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I do not have a heart...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 5:18pm.
I have no heart for any politician that practices discrimination against US Citizens in favor of illegal aliens! My heart is BROKEN by RINO governors and liberal politicians who give tuition breaks to those who pay no taxes, while hard working Americans scrape by to pay all of their taxes AND send their child to the school of their choice! Americans have to pay an "out of state" penalty to go to a college outside of the state they reside in. I will not support that governor for POTUS.
I'm waiting on you, Hill, to begin "reporting" the stories about illegal aliens driving drunk and killing American citizens instead of brow beating republicans about your liberal political agenda.
Here's my question
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 5:21pm.
Why should illegal aliens, who aren't even supposed to be in the country, get in-state tuition, when American citizens can't just because they come from a different state?
Until Texas or any other state gives in-state tuition to Americans from every state, they sure as hell shouldn't be handing it out to foreigners who are supposed to be deported.
Perry the RINO = FAIL
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
"Why not, though, give them a
Submitted by ThePickle on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 5:23pm.
"Why not, though, give them a tuition break now, rather then, perhaps, down the line, having to hand over unemployment, or even welfare?"
To which would answer "How about this ..we DON'T give them tuition breaks or unemployment or welfare until such time as they become U.S. citizens?"
How about we have them fill out...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 5:32pm.
a detailed college application. Get their names, their FAKE social security numbers, the names of their parents and family members...
And then start deporting illegal aliens from there? We will now who they are, where they are, and rounding them up will not be expensive. We can start with one school in one city at a time until we purge the leeches...
You assume they will assimilate, get a legitimate job, and not send money back to Mexico. They may get one job every three years to collect unemployment while working under the table and collecting welfare, SSDI, food stamps, using our heatlh care system, and laughing all the way to the ATM.
I was simply trying to point
Submitted by ThePickle on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 5:54pm.
I was simply trying to point out the idiocy of the quotee's argument.
That somehow, in order for us to "have a heart", that means that we should just start passing out money to every dang illegal with a sob story.
My usual response to these folks that claim that they are here "through no fault of their own" is for them to "sack up" and "take your lumps" then most importantly "DO IT THE RIGHT WAY!"
Huh?
Submitted by stanmo42 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 6:28pm.
Paying the same price for something as everyone else is not really getting anything for free.
They receive a "gratis"
Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:57pm.
They receive a "gratis" public education through grade twelve, they receive the benefit of police and fire protection for free as well. Some states allow them to receive public assistance in food and clothing, and they get all this on some other tax payers dime, as their illegal parents often don't pay taxes on the money they work for under the table.
And to belie the idea that they are just wanna pay the same as everyone else, my earlier argument still holds true, as State Universities are HEAVILY FUNDED with taxpayer dollars and it is only for that reason that "in state" residents are given a break on tuition.
But lets cut the BS and get down to the real truth of the situation that being that they shouldn't be "paying" for anything because they SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE!.
I'm with you TP!!!...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 6:35pm.
By you, I meant Hill, who mad the comment as well. I was expanding on your point by offering real time, workable solution!
I'm saying I don't have a heart for the argument that it would be too expensive to round them all up and deport them! That is usually the next lame excuse thrown out!
I'd also like to see the anchor baby rule voided. See the story of the Filipino woman on the plane in international waters demanding US Citizenship for the kid born in flight so that she could gain US Citizenship?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/should-baby-born-mid-flight-over-pacific...
Exactly, Pickle
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 5:57pm.
If they are not eligible for in-state tuition, they are not eligible for welfare or unemployment.
It's no wonder Hill doesn't get the answer; she doesn't even grasp the underlying premise of the question.
If one is here illegally -- whether through one's own fault or not -- one is not entitled to these privileges.
Why should an illegal immigrant get in-state tuition while a foreign student who has obatined an student visa to study here pays out-of-state tuition. The illegal alien shouldn't even get accepted to a US university, let alone get in-state tuition.
Tuition
Submitted by stanmo42 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 6:26pm.
Look, it's one thing to say "to hell with illegals", but it's another to govern a State. What to do in reality? Just let them pay the freight just like anyone else. What's the alternative? Do you want to charge them more for groceries too? They are here because of idiotic federal officials. A Governor can't throw them out. Only the Feds can do that. Better to have an educated illegal than the alternative.
Why doesn't someone ask Perry what would he do from the Whitehouse to stem the tide of illegals? As a Governor he has always maintained that the Feds need to do more. Well let's hear it.
Republican in Texas
Sick of illegal immigration
Sick and Tired of the Feds
Dumb
Submitted by ckc1227 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 9:05pm.
"What's the alternative? Do you want to charge them more for groceries too?"
You cannot be serious. Do we charge people from any other state of the union more for groceries if they visit Texas? How about legal immigrants? Do we charge them more for groceries? Of course not, so save that straw for a rainy day.
"They are here because of idiotic federal officials."
They're here because their parents broke the law. Just because someone leaves their doors unlocked doesn't mean it's ok to break into their home.
"Why doesn't someone ask Perry what would he do from the Whitehouse to stem the tide of illegals?"
Maybe because saying "I don't care what your last name is", or "I don't care how you got here", or "Yer heartless if you don't help illegals" pretty much gives it away, lol. I mean, it's so obvious he's a border warrior who wants to stop the flow of illegals. Not.
Whatev
Submitted by stanmo42 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 9:19pm.
You have all the canards but you miss the point. What is a State to do? The people are already here. I live next door to them. Their parents broke the law...now what? Governors, locals, etc cannot just throw them out. You offer nothing except "their parents broke the law". Fine; but it doesn't solve anything. Going to college doesn't make them a citizen. But it might keep them from being a drain on society.
I don't need politicians to restate the problem for me. Do something positive.
The feds can throw them out
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 9:24pm.
And they should, send 'em home with the parents. Why should anyone be paying for anyone else's child to go to college? Why should someone from out of state pay more than someone out of country?
If politicians, i.e, the government---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 9:25pm.
will NOT see to it that the laws of this country are enforced, then there is absolutely nothing of a positive nature that can follow.
MD
Taxpayers footing the bill
Submitted by ant on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:16am.
Taxpayers footing the bill for the education of illegal foreign nationals is not a drain on society? Ya ever see footage of the idiot anarchists and big government syncophants 'protesting'? They are allegedly 'educated' too. As are Obama and his 'economic' team. The 'educated' can do as much damage, if not more, than High School drop-out gangbangers. And are better at creating problems 'en masse', rather than one individual victim at a time.
I bet you a dollar, the next 'talking point' will be, "Educated illegals that get better jobs will open up more "lower level" positions for un-employed Americans." Keep your ears open.
Without any knowledge?
Submitted by CobraMan on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 6:34pm.
"These are children, as Governor Perry said, who were brought here by their parents without any knowledge."
What, they didn't know where they were going? Yea, right, like they didn't understand that, yes, they're actually traveling with their parents to another country! They may not have had a choice in the matter, but they knew that they were traveling!
Or is it that the parents of those children didn't know that they were carrying their kids across the US boarder? Yea, like that's a possibility!
But what does any of that that have to do with paying "in-state tuition" or not? Nothing, of course. We don't even know of those children will go to college or not, or even where they will attend college if they do decide to do so! It's all speculative.
The "in-state tuition" policy is that the children of illegal aliens, unlike the children of US citizens, will pay the least amount of tuition available no matter WHERE they reside here in the US, which is highly unfair to the rest of the US citizens. THAT'S the whole issue here. WHY should the children of illegal immigrants be afforded a special dispensation that our own citizens can't share in? Is it because they didn't have a choice in coming here? Well, I didn't have a choice of where I would be born, so I fail to see the significance.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Nice segue
Submitted by Reaver on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 7:10pm.
HILL: Obviously, the economy, the number one issue for most Americans. Immigration is also becoming increasingly important, getting more attention-
Yea, the economy is the number one issue in this election for most Americans, sooo… let’s talk about immigration. I notice Hill didn’t ask any questions about the economy even though she knows it’s the number one issue. In fact when Bachmann started talking about the economy Hill changed the subject.
Tell journalists to be journalists
Submitted by nkviking75 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 8:27pm.
I wish one of these candidates would say, "You're supposed to be a journalist, not a lobbyist. You should be asking me about my platform, not trying to change my mind."
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Heart
Submitted by GregE on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 9:31pm.
People have heart. Charities have heart. Churches have heart. Government has laws.
we're discussing a symptom, not the cure
Submitted by mom_rox on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 9:42pm.
The problem is that the Federal Government has allowed an explosion of illegal aliens into this country. Gov. Perry can wear his "wanna-be" Matt Dillon jacket all he wants, but he does not have the authority to deport them. (Fellow Texans should get my jacket reference.) Until the border is secure, this remains a state issue.
I would like to know how many students at UT (per year) are admitted via the Texas Dream Act. I doubt it's that many - It's difficult to get into. Also, it has an exemption from the Texas Top 10% Rule: a maximum of 75% of the students will be in-state residents.
(What I find really interesting, is that I don't recall this being an issue in the two previous gubernatorial elections.)
This is precisely why I won't
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 10:27pm.
This is precisely why I won't vote for Perry. I bet in his little gated community, the only "illegals" are the gardeners and housekeepers. Well, where I live, the illegals are outnumbering the legals. As a lawyer, I have witnessed first-hand the disgusting, third-world mentality that goes along with being an illegal alien from a third-world nation. Our county jail is filled with them. Besides the robbings, stabbings, drunk-driving and gang activity, illegals simply do not want to become American's.
We don't need to promote MORE of this by giving them free-money for OUR colleges and universities.
Thanks for making my point
Submitted by stanmo42 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:18pm.
How many people in your full jail have college degrees? How many college educated people commit robberies, stabbings and the rest?
You think violent offenders...
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:25pm.
are college material? College isn't a right, citizen of the U.S. or not, but illegals shouldn't be getting college educations here.
Yeah, let's get those latent
Submitted by ant on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:20am.
Yeah, let's get those latent geniuses in "MS-13" into college. You won't mind if they share a dorm with your daughter or niece, will you?
Any American who supports
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:39am.
Any American who supports illegal immigration is a traitor. Illegal deserve nothing. I don't care about their tales of woe. One need look no further than the zeituni leach and drunken omar.
Leave it to the media to pick
Submitted by jessieH on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:56pm.
Leave it to the media to pick up a bone & strip it of any meat. Not any mention of the heartless illegals that ignore our laws & deficate on our Constitution.
Another Difference Between the Parties
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 4:27pm.
Republican, no heart. Democrat, no brain. Choose one.
Kill a murderer, or, kill an unborn child. Choose one.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html