CNN's Velshi: Rep. Peter King Has 'Strange Obsession with Islam'
On Thursday's Newsroom, CNN's Ali Velshi claimed that Rep. Peter King has a "seemingly strange obsession with Islam and Islamists, or whatever you want to call it," given the lead up and the first day of hearings looking into the radicalization of American Muslims. Velshi also bizarrely stated that "I don't quite understand how when you put an -ist at the end of it [Islamism], it changes the subject."
The anchor discussed the hearings with former FBI agent Foria Younis, CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen, and former Catholic turned Episcopal priest Rev. Alberto Cutie during the last segment of the 2 pm Eastern hour. Midway through the panel discussion, Velshi turned to Cutie and made his claim about the New York congressman, along with his doubt about the validity of "Islamist" as a term:
VELSHI: Let's put aside Peter King's seemingly strange obsession with Islam and Islamists, or whatever you want to call it. I don't quite understand how when you put an -ist at the end of it, it changes the subject. But let's just say, putting that aside, should Muslims be looking more carefully at themselves? Is there something that law-abiding American Muslims should be doing simply- to be doing to satisfy this call to action that Peter King has put out?
Perhaps he doesn't understand that Islamist is a synonym for a radical Muslim, and that the term, in its current usage, has been around for decades, and has its origin in French academia.
As you might expect, Cutie spouted the liberal talking point about not singling out one community and the need to examine extremism outside the Muslim population:
CUTIE: Well, listen, in my conversations with the ecumenical community, with rabbis, with imams, with pastors, and then priests, everybody agrees that the big problem for some people is that Muslims have not come out in thousands and thousands of numbers marching down the street, maybe in New York City or other places, and saying, we are against terrorism. This is what some people need and want. I'm not sure that that's going to do anything. I think that the sheriff said it right. My concern is the radicalization of people in all faith groups. I think we have to be very careful when we single out one group. Certainly, when are you in charge of Homeland Security, you are worried about terrorism. We're all worried about terrorism. But how are we going to end this stigma of Muslim equals terrorist?
Earlier, the CNN anchor asked Younis, "Are Muslims in America and mosques and imams, are they reluctant and not cooperative with the U.S. government, when it comes to ferreting out radicals and terrorists?" The ex-law enforcement officer contended that "over the last ten years, many, many more Muslims are communicating with law enforcement, and I think that's really in part due to a lot of the law enforcement activity in trying to bring all members of the community into their fold, so that they can all work together to deal with any issues in the community."
Bergen reenforced Younis's point and disputed one of Rep. King's points about the Muslim community:
BERGEN: One of the principal claims that he's made in the run-up to this hearing is that the American Muslim community isn't cooperating with law enforcement, and, in fact, that is simply a false assertion. The New America Foundation, where I work, and also, Syracuse University, has just released a study, which is on CNN's website, and we looked at 175 jihadi terrorism cases since 9/11. We found, using a conservative methodology, that one in five of those cases had originated because of a tip of the Muslim community, all because of the cooperation of a family member turning in someone they thought was becoming increasingly militant or radical. So, just one of the principal, kind of underlying ideas of this hearing is just factually incorrect.
Whether the American Muslim community is actually cooperative is actually debatable, as the New York Daily News (which is no conservative publication) reported on Tuesday that "cops and federal agents agree with Rep. Pete King that they don't get a lot of tipsters from the Muslim community - but they say that's true of many other communities."
Velshi followed up with Younis on this subject later in the segment: "If you are trying to gain the cooperation or greater cooperation of an identifiable group, like Muslims in America, is this a good step in the right direction, or are there more effective ways for law enforcement to do this?"
The former FBI agent sided with those on the left who claim that the hearings may actually end up causing further radicalization in the Islamic community:
YOUNIS: ...The fact of the matter is, Ali, there may be some radicalization issues out there. They may be very minor. They may be larger than we think. But these type of hearings, all they produce is alienation even further. I think there's proper ways to do this. There's proper ways to collect this information. Peter Bergen just quoted some of his research and his statistics. Those are the ways to do it. By producing a hearing like this, you are actually doing probably more harm than good, and that is pushing people from communities further away, because they feel they are being judged as a whole...if there is any radicalization in the community, which I believe there may be minor pockets, what we need to do as a larger community is work with these parents, work with these community leaders and try to identify these issues with the assistance of the community, not pushing them up against the wall where you almost are going to have a counter-effect.
In his last question to Bergen, the CNN anchor asked, "Aside from the fact we're discovering that American Islam seems to need a better PR effort, is there some degree of apologism going on for Islam in America in this debate? Do Muslims need to come out and say, maybe there is a greater instance of radicalization or extremism in the community, or is it not the responsibility of American Muslims to do that?"
The analyst took a more balanced approach than he did earlier in his answer:
BERGEN: There is a problem. I mean, to pretend that there isn't would be equally wrong to say as, you know, to say that the sky is falling. You know, certainly, there's been an uptick in cases in 2009 and 2010, and the Muslim American community is well aware of that. At the end of the day, if there is an attack, they're going to suffer the most. So, they have the highest possible motivation to make sure that, if there are militants in their midst, to basically raise their hands, and they're doing that.
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Yeah. So does the DHS. How
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:04pm.
Yeah. So does the DHS. How odd.I like how he obviously
Submitted by LighthouseJ on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:23pm.
I like how he obviously disagrees with the hearings, but poses his disagreement as playing dumb. That seems to be the only thing he does well, play dumb.
The only thing I see coming out of the hearing so far is the lefts' own outrage that we don't tolerate extremism as easily as they want, so the hearings must be going well.
Hopefully they will go on for a while so the far left actors (i.e. Sheila Jackson Lee) will get weary from their theatrics and the hearings can get down the facts.
"But how are we going to end
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:25pm.
"But how are we going to end this stigma of Muslim equals terrorist?"
"We" can only end that stigma if "we" are part of the "we". The so-called "stigma" is a result of the actions that the "we" takes.
It is a fools errand to say that it is possible to separate "Islamic" from "terrorists" today when the fact of the matter is that terrorists, who are targeting civilians all over the world intentionally and specifically, trying to exact political change and claiming openly that they are doing so in Islam's name, Allah's name and Muhammad's name.
The obsession I witness is the blatant addiction to trying to explain away the Islamic component when it is so clearly there for all to see.
If telling the truth about a particular criminal element makes them mad, so be it. It is unjust and inaccurate to claim that exposing a problem is responsible for creating the problem.
Raising their hands? Is that right?
Let me know when a suicide bombing of civilians, a indiscriminate roadside bomb or a shooting while screaming allah akbar, draws outrage about a affront, a insult, to Islam the way a simple cartoon does. Folks will have to pardon me if I am unwilling to hold my breath....
Here may be the reason that
Submitted by jdhawk on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:39pm.
Here may be the reason that Congressman King is concerned about radical Islam and the majority of the American people are too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mz0_x7313IApparently numbnuts has been
Submitted by Thoreau on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:52pm.
Apparently numbnuts hasn't been noticing half the planet's on fire and the other half is fending off islamic attacks."Strange" obsession
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:07pm.
"Strange" obsession indeed.
Because, you know, it just came right out of the blue with no reaon whatsoever.
Where on earth does King get these weird ideas?
It didn't take Rev. Cutie long to become the media's new darling, did it?
Cutie: My concern is the radicalization of people in all faith groups. I think we have to be very careful when we single out one group. Certainly, when are you in charge of Homeland Security, you are worried about terrorism. We're all worried about terrorism. But how are we going to end this stigma of Muslim equals terrorist?
Good grief. Now it's up to "us" to end the stigma?? And just how do "we" do that?
Oh, and of course, it's radicalization of ALL faith groups. Of course you're concerned about that. After all, we have those radical Catholics going around blowing up mosques, and those radical Jews terrorizing Catholics, and don't even get me started on the Mormons!!!
Just ask Tavis Smiley...he'll tell you how every day we have Christians shooting things up and killing bunches of people....
By all means, let's not single out one faith group. Law enforcement personnel should all be like that sheriff who wouldn't put out the word that the DC sniper was black, because he didn't want to "paint one group."
Obsession
Submitted by AGreer on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:12pm.
The only "strange" thing is that CNN never mentions that Velshi's religion has a "strange obsession" about wanting to kill westerners or make us adhere to sharia law. Lies of omission...AGAIN !Religion of peace.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:23pm.
Religion of peace.
It's things like this that
Submitted by Thoreau on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 1:09am.
It's things like this that makes me to wipe them off the face of the Earth.no worries mate!
Submitted by Patriot II on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 11:56am.
The Lord is going to do the wiping...read Revelations!So first you say:
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:25pm.
"Let's put aside Peter King's seemingly strange obsession with Islam and Islamists, or whatever you want to call it. "Then you are interested and want to discuss the word used to describe the group.
Hey Mo, make up your mind (you do have one?).
No other religion inspires this kind of savagery...barbarity.
Submitted by Army Brat on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 1:46am.
Israeli settler family murdered, Palestinians accused The Israeli military set up check points and began a massive search for what it believed were Palestinian militants who knifed five members of the same Israeli family to death as they slept in a West Bank settlement. The attack happened in the Itamar settlement late Friday, killing a husband and wife, and an 11-year-old, a 3-year-old and a baby girl. The dead were discovered by a 12-year-old family member who was returning from a youth group function. The Israeli military said "Palestinian terrorists" had infiltrated the settlement. "This was a very harsh terror attack, a whole family was wiped out by despicable cowardly murderers who came in the dead of night and killed innocent children, a woman and man as they slept," said Avi Mizrachi, commander of the military's Central Command. How does one brings ones self to stab a baby to death? Study the koran and it becomes clear.Animals?....no...that insults animals...
Submitted by Army Brat on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:59am.
Gaza residents from the southern city of Rafah hit the streets Saturday to celebrate the terror attack in the West Bank settlement of Itamar where five family members were murdered in their sleep, including three children. Residents handed out candy and sweets, one resident saying the joy "is a natural response to the harm settlers inflict on the Palestinian residents in the West Bank."Nothing to do with Islam
Submitted by jhubers on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 2:56pm.
I wonder if you've ever seen pictures of Japanese atrocities during WW II. No Muslims there. I wonder, too, if you remember Mai Lai - men, women, babies slaughtered by American soldiers. No Muslims there. Tamil Tigers killing and maiming families with suicide bombers - Hindus. Pol Pot's atrocities - no Muslims there. And that's not to mention serial killers in our own country, some of whom mention religion as their motivation. And, of course, you've forgotten the massacre at the al Aqsa mosque. Here's a reminder: "During the rabbinic festival of Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, a Brooklyn-born physician and Israeli Army officer, Baruch Goldstein, slaughtered 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, and wounded 150 others, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque in Hebron. 25 Palestinians who protested the massacre were subsequently shot to death by Israeli troops under the command of Ehud Barak. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told Mike Wallace of CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." 501 Goldstein is still celebrated as a hero by radical settler Jews. Is it possible that a criminal killed that family inspired by nothing more than his own personal demons? Why blame Islam?are you kidding me?
Submitted by Army Brat on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 5:46pm.
There have been over 16 thousand attacks by good muslims since 9/11. Show me one, just one suicide bombing by a Buddhist or a Christian....just one. I have to go to work or I would take you to the woodshed right now. I will most certainly be back to help you get with the times...apologist...Barbary Pirates Attack, Velshi Questions Casualty Obsession
Submitted by Avitar on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 1:47am.
After the Revolutionary War Muslims began attack the southern states. To raise a navy to fight Muslims was the reason for the "more perfect union..." of the Constitutional Convention.
I suggest Mr. Velshi proves that Islam is a religion before he objects to hearings and not just the philosophy of pirates, thieves, liars, international bandits and brigands as our founders believed Islam to be.
Shouldn't the question be
Submitted by MightyMouth on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 2:22am.
Shouldn't the question be asked: Why does Islam have a strange obsession with Israel? Israel is tiny in comparison to its enemies. It sounds to me like God is on Israel's side, not Islam's side. Am I wrong?Betrayal
Submitted by LaVallette on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 3:54am.
The greatest sin in Islam and deserving of capital punishement : to betray a member of the Ummah to a dhimmi , particulalry when that member is peforming an act of Jihad to bring the infidel into submission to Allah. Look up the Koran. There cannot be such a thing as a "good" Muslim as we undersand the word "good" in the Judeo/Christian, Greco/Roman estrn liberal tradition. By definition a good Muslim is one that believes that everything in the Koran is the unalterable will of Allah. If he has any reservations about any of the contents then he/she is by definition not a good Muslim. The ultimate fundamental will of Allah is to bring everyone under the will of Allah. Anyone who refuses is ipso facto an enemy of Allah and Allah himself deems all infidel not worthy of living. In order to live that inifidel must be at all times subjected to a state of servitude to any Muslim , who has even the right to deprive that infidel of life as he deems fit to fulifll Allah's own will. It is 'haram" for any good Mulsim to have a non muslim friend or to asscoate with them.In reality the MSM who have
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 8:35am.
In reality the MSM are the ones who have an unhealthy, dangerous for America obsession with covering up the truth about radical islam in American, on par with their equally unhealthy, dangerous for America obsession with covering up the truth about Barack Hussein Obama.
Rep. King, he's just doing the job he was elected to do...nothing more, nothing less.
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
He's against radical Muslims
Submitted by wiwf on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 8:31am.
He's against radical Muslims as much as he's for the IRA.How many Muslims are there in US media?
Submitted by sheik yermami on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 8:40am.
Peter Bergen is definitely on the Muslim payroll. Or perhaps he is a closet convert. Watch the guy: he's not kosher. He should know by know and he plays dumb. There is a method in the madness. And Ali Velshi is another Muslim, true to 'his faith'. But when you look at his wiki page, you won't find it mentioned. Not even on his CNN resume', not a word. But you can find him on Ismaili blogs, and there he is a prominent member. Of course, just like the unhinged Cenk Uigur he must be reading another Koran, a 'moderate' one, like Fareed Zakaria, (the skull) son of an imam and member of the Muslim Brotherhood. 'Moderates', all of them. Infiltration is real. We should name them and shame them and drag them out into the open, just like Grover Norquist, also a stealth jihadist. http://sheikyermami.com/2011/03/08/how-did-so-many-muslims-get-into-the-...I too have a strange obsession with islam...
Submitted by stage9 on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 1:40pm.
I have this obsession to live in a country free from islamic radicalism and furthermore to see it wiped off the planet along with its Western cousin, liberal radicalism."If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
Obsession???
Submitted by Pilgrim1949 on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:31am.
Rather like, in the Star Trek franchise, making the accusation that other planets and peoples were unfairly "obsessed" with resisting and defeating the Borg Collective, which was merely seeking to peacefully (but of course!) assimilate every last stitch of fleshly life in the universe into its insatiable maw.
Never mind that there was no "peaceful coexistence" possible. The options were submit and be assimilated or resist and be destroyed. There was no middle ground. It would have been (by today's Libtard faint attempts at some semblance of a serial thought process) ignorantly racist and Borg-o-phobic to oppose their "alternative" and wholly valid lifestyle. Perhaps the objectors would be in need of sensitivity training?
Surely their resorting to violence was a completely justifiable response, no doubt driven by a quiet, sad desperation and an ineffectual inability to peacefully achieve their lofty goals.
Um....yeah, right.
If we didn't have a group of people (just a few percent = millions!) that are right now to-the-death obsessed with our own deaths, maybe this faux intellectual nit-of-wit might have a scant flickering of logic or reasoning to his diatribe.
"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects...