WaPo's On Faith: General Patton, Sgt. York Like Ft. Hood Shooter

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George C. Scott as General George PattonAnthony Stevens-Arroyo of the Washington Post’s On Faith blog took left-wing moral equivalency to new lows in a November 24 post where he compared Ft. Hood shooter Nidal Hassan to General Patton and World War I hero Alvin York. What does this mass murderer have in common with two American heroes, in Stevens-Arroyo’s view? All three recited what he labeled “bad prayers.”

Matthew Archbold of the Creative Minority Report blog devoted an entire post on Monday to picking apart the Washington Post writer’s arguments. Before Stevens-Arroyo compared Hassan to Patton and York, he cited other examples of such “bad prayers.”

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In citing the worst prayers in the world, I start with the thanksgiving of the Pharisee in the Gospel (Luke 18:10). He was thankful he was not like “other people.” His conversation with God was replete with political and religious prejudices against others whom he scorned. It was a bad prayer and you don’t have to take my word for it; listen to Jesus....

Number two on the parade list is the so-called “Prayer for Obama,” that cites Psalm 109:8 and applies it to the President: Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow....You can buy T-shirts...trinkets and coffee mugs with this “prayer.”

In biblical terms, this is not a prayer at all, but rather a curse. So here are so called “Christians” spending time and collecting bucks to curse the president of the United States, his wife and innocent children. Some prayer! Certainly, among the worst in the world!

As bad as Stevens-Arroyo portrays these “worst prayers in the world,” there is something much worse in his book:

But the granddaddy of bad prayers is, “Allahu Akbar!” uttered before shooting innocent people or setting off bombs to slaughter innocents to advance your own salvation. Such abuse by violence of God’s will was not invented at Fort Hood. After all, General Patton ordered the composition of a prayer for good weather so that thousands of Germans could be bombed. Army sharpshooters - like the famous Alvin York of the First World War - prayed to God for a good aim to kill people. And the tradition goes back to the Crusades and beyond. But the Muslim version is the most current and the one with the least amount of disguise as we approach Thanksgiving 2009. It is quite simply and without equivocation, “The Worst Prayer in the World!”

p.s. I owe the idea of the “world’s worst” to Keith Olbermann of MSNBC. The content here, however, is all my own. Have a Happy Thanksgiving and don’t use bad prayers.

The Washington Post writer must have wanted to be doubly-sure to maintain his left-wing credentials in this column. Not only did he make the obligatory damning reference to the Crusades in his condemnation of Hassan’s prayer, he credits Olbermann for giving him the idea for the “worst prayer in the world.” That aside, Archbold rightly and brilliantly took Stevens-Arroyo to task for this “blatant and ridiculous display of moral equivalence:”

The prayer Arroyo is referring to which Patton disseminated was actually written by Catholic chaplain James H. O’Neill who wrote:

Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend. Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call upon Thee that, armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies and establish Thy justice among men and nations.

So according to Arroyo, General Patton asking for God’s help in defeating the scourge of Nazism was similar to Nidal Hasan taking out his fellow American soldiers with a prayer to Allah.

Maybe Mr. Arroyo isn’t aware but war is different than murder.

Nidal presumed to know God’s will and to kill in his name. Patton’s prayer is a prayer for assistance, leaving the response to God.

One is a request, the other a statement.

Gary Cooper as Sgt. Alvin YorkAnd impugning Alvin York is outrageous as well. York was a war hero who, at first, was a conscientious objector but finally (after much prayer) saw fit to fight in World War I after praying on a mountainside for two nights.

York was awarded the Medal of Honor for leading an attack on a German machine gun nest, taking 32 machine guns, killing 28 German soldiers and capturing 132 others....

I’ll ask Mr. Arroyo, how many prisoners did Nidal Hasan take?

—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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I don't know how he knows

I don't know how he knows for sure those things said by Patton and York are true. They were in the movies but we all know how they take liberties in movies. This guy is dumber than Jimmy Carter dumb.

Semper suprene nitens 

There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell

 

Low life scum!!!

This moronic idiot should be deported....I don't care where the idiot is from, get him out of America and see what the pondscum thinks of  how the rest of the world lives!!!   This dirty s.o.b. doesn't deserve to live in America!!!!   compare a slimey murdering piece of crap like hasan to heros!!    

 

Who is this twit

and what gives him the right to judge?

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

The news NOT fit to read!

WaPo has really struck my nerve now.  As a veteran, we prayed all the time in the desert for safe returns, for ALL of our soldiers (allied forces included).

This frikin idiot of a wannabe journalist should have his head smacked for even comparing the likes of Patton & York to that traitor Hassan.

I have never seen such piss poor coverage of the tv media and journalistic coverage in the print media.  No damn wonder the papers are going under.  With jerks like that, who wants to read it. 

"I don't make jokes.  I just watch the government and report the facts." - Will Rogers

a word of thanks that Mr. Arroyo might consider--

here's a word of thanks that Mr Arroyo might consider:

If you can read this, thank a teacher--

And if you are reading this in English vs. German, thank Gen. Patton!

Hay Liberal idiot!

Hay, Liberal Idiot, there's one massive contradiction in your comparison with great military heroes like Patton and York and that traitor Hassan , and that is the fact that York and Patton, unlike the coward at Ft, Hood, never shot and killed their own troops, never committed treason!  Care to explain this glaring omission of truth?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

I will pray...

...that Anthony Stevens-Arroyo be castrated by a band of rabid weasels with dull teeth and bad breath.

That ought to make his top 10...

In all seriousness, why does this nation, the greatest and most just in all of God's history, put up with idiots like this?  Vote with your wallets, people!  DO NOT BUY THE WAPO!!!  When you cancel your subscription, let them know why.  

My local paper does not carry anywhere near the AP or NY Times feeds it once did, because the populace said, "Enough of the slanted, opinionews!"  

Still like the idea of the rabid weasels, however... 

Listening to the WaPo or NYT on faith issues

is like taking investment advice from the commentors at the DailyKOS.

Throw 'da bums out!!!

Before it's too late. 

www.loyaltoliberty.com

Heros

Those two heros must be spinning in their graves at the comparsion to that terrirost traitor!

Relativism

This is liberal  moral relativism.  Patton, York and Hassan are all on the same moral plain because they killed people.  Patton and York killed Germans to end their war and asked divine help.  Hassan killed in the name of his moon God.  Big difference. German soldiers would have killed Patton and York had they not been killed first.  Hassan was in no such danger.

"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."

Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941

Disgusting

How does this moron Arroyo not know the difference between a soldier shooting at the enemy on a battlefield and a traitor shooting unarmed soldiers in a barracks?

And can we please drop the moral equivalency b.s. with the Crusades?  Please name one American who fought in the Crusades. It's ancient history.

The Patton prayer

 Here, from the man who wrote the prayer. Granted, the movie took liberties, and even Gen. Pattons own memoirs changed the story: 

Msgr. James H. O'Neill

 

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.

George S. Patton

Thank you Jcon

Very interesting and an excellent read.

General Patton was one of a kind.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Hasan is a traitor who

Hasan is a traitor who should be hung. Anyone who sypathizes with him should be hung as well.

Bad News, Good News

Bad News, this idiot has a job.  Good News, with the Washington Post publishing this kind of trash he won't have a job for long.  Perhaps he should listen to Ron White and I quote, "Next time you (Anthony) have a thought, let it go."

www.coastaldecorations.com

 "Those bilious bastards

 "Those bilious bastards who wrote that crap in the New York Times don't know any more about the real Georgie Patton than they do about fornicating"

to paraphrase a real American.

Patton would have had this traitor, Hasan, shot by a firing squad, tied to chair if not a post.

He also prayed Psalm 63

He also prayed Psalm 63 which ends:

But those that seek my soul, to destroy it,
        shall go into the lower parts of the earth.

They shall fall by the sword:
        they shall be a portion for foxes.

But the king shall rejoice in God;
        every one that sweareth by him shall glory:
         but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped.

Patton once said "Lord have

Patton once said "Lord have mercy on my enemies because I won't." Was that a prayer? 

Semper suprene nitens 

There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell

 

Concerning Psalm 109:8

The Psalm is in fact a prayer, containing an inclusio/conclusio about praising God: "O God, whom I praise..." (vs, 1)/"Before all I will praise my God" (vs 30).  The Psalm ends by giving the motivation for this prayer of praise: "For God stands at the right hand of the poor to defend them against unjust accusations."

Mister Arroyo notes that Psalm 109:8 is called by those selling/wearing it "A Prayer for Obama," by which, if I understand their intention-and it seems rather obvious what their intention is-means that the "prayer" consists solely of that one verse.  Mister Arroyo, however, applies much more to their intentions, quoting from vss 9-13 in an attempt to paint them as cursing the first Lady and the Obama children.  

Perhaps he should have spent more time poderning what this Psalm has to say concerning the fate of those who make false accusations, and less time watching Keith Olbermann.

Anthony Stevens-Arroyo’s faith is Anti-Americanism.

- Relying upon the State Run Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.

- I didn't leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.

I don't give any weight to

I don't give any weight to the words of men with hyphenated names.

A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.

Yea....and Patton got his

Yea....and Patton got his good weather and York hardly ever missed his target. They received what they prayed for.

Apparently God thought the prayers were worthy.

Mr Arroyo should try praying for a brain.  

Big Difference A.S.O.

Patton and York were leaders of men. 

And while we're at it, this quote's for our fearless leader...

"There's a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top. Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and is much less prevalent. One of the most frequently noted characteristics of great men who have remained great is loyalty to their subordinates."
- General George S. Patton, Jr

Pathetic

Mr. Arroyo isn't worthy to breathe the names of the likes of Sgt. York and Gen. Patton.

I'm a history buff, and especially a WWII buff from way back. I have family members who were at Omaha beach. Naturally, I know a bit about WWI and Sgt. York's exploits, too. However, my special interest has always been Gen. Patton. I have spent considerable time and money researching his life, and I suspect that I own one of the largest libraries about his life in the area that I live.

I'm going to stop here. I won't type what is going through my mind, mentioning Alvin York and George Patton in the same breath as Hasan. I'm sure that if Alvin was alive today, he would turn the other cheek. Georgie on the other hand... well, it would be epic.

 

 

Okay, so the Washington Post

Okay, so the Washington Post is saying it's wrong to be racist towards blacks, but anti-Semitism is perfectly fine?

This writer thinks that the Patten was being irrationally violent by killing Nazis.  Well, well, well, here we have the Washington Post advocating that Patten shouldn't kill Nazis and that Nazis should get to keep killing Jews.

If Edison were to invent the light bulb today, the head- lines would read, '200,000 candle makers lose their jobs.'

Your Kidding - Right?

With the distain that most progressives have towards prayer, why would this accusation surprise anyone? 

It’s more like an affirmation.   

An armed society is a polite society

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