Before he introduced Steele, Blitzer played a clip from former President Jimmy Carter, who attributed “overwhelming portion of the intensely-demonstrated animosity towards President Barack Obama” to racism. He then asked the RNC chairman for his take on the Democrat’s remarks. Steele replied that Carter was “just dead wrong....I am, like a lot of Americans, concerned and disagree with the President’s policies and approaches from the stimulus spending to this health care strategy. Am I a racist because I disagree with that? I don’t think so.”
The CNN anchor followed-up by citing the “small fringe element out there...that does have racist views of the President.” Mr. Steele answered that Carter’s “throwing race out there...diminish[es] real instances of...racism that needs to be addressed.”
Later, after bringing up Maureen Dowd’s “very powerful column” and Representative Henry Johnson’s “pretty powerful statement” against Representative Joe Wilson’s outburst during President Obama’s health care speech to Congress, Blitzer brought up supposed racism at Tea Parties: “You have to admit, if you take a look at some of those rallies, there were some really racist pictures out there...pictures of the President of the United States as an African witch doctor, if you will....There were these kinds of racist images that were projected at some of those rallies.”
Steele criticized the media’s focus on the more extreme sentiments at the rallies:
STEELE: You know- and look, that’s inappropriate and misplaced. That’s what- how that person may have interpreted it, but for every one of those, Wolf, there were 70, 80, 100- 1,000 other signs that weren’t that, and so this is- this is the distinction I think we need to understand. Don’t hold up one person as an example of behavior by everyone, because that’s not what we’re talking about here, and I think we need to be very careful and sensitive. If we want to stay serious about solving some of the issues on race, then we just can’t go around every corner claiming it exists there and it exists there when it doesn’t, and that’s- that’s where I have a real problem with a lot of these folks who are coming out here, trying to play this card from beneath the deck in such a way to stifle debate, to have us focus on something other than the President’s policies. Instead, now we’re having this discussion about race.The CNN anchor then tried to portray the chairman’s party as not “diverse” enough. Steele granted part of Blitzer’s point, but struck back at the Democrats as well:
BLITZER: You have your hands cut out for you. You’re the chairman of the Republican Party, and you have a largely white party. I want to put a picture up on the screen, Mr. Chairman, of the floor of the joint session of Congress- the Democrats and the Republicans. Now, the Democrats are on the right side and the Republicans are on the left side over there, and if you take a look, the left side is mostly white men. There are no African-American Republicans in the House or in the Senate. You look at the Democratic side. There’s a lot of people of color. There’s African-Americans, Latinos- men and women. What are you going to do to try to diversify the Republican Party?
STEELE: I’ll accept the indictment. I’ll accept it- you know, and I know we’ve got to change, and our party has, for over a generation, employed a strategy that right now we wished many of us wish we never have. We have a strong and- I think- a special relationship with the minority community, especially African-Americans in the country, and part of my responsibility and opportunity is to engage- in a new way- those voters out there on ideas that matter to them- on policies that matter to them, whether we’re talking about health care- we’re taking about employment.
You know, I’m looking at cities around the country where black folk live. Now, you showed me the Congress with all these wonderful black Democrats and white Democrats- but I go to black neighborhoods that are run by those same Democrats, and you tell me where racism really exists. Is it in the words of a congressman who says ‘you lie,’ or is it how we strip education funding through opportunity scholarships, or is it how we cut money for our HBCU [historically black colleges and universities] around the country, or is it the fact that so many African-Americans still live in neighborhoods that are burnt out and run down, and those same Democrats that are in that hall and that are running those cities aren’t investing capital, time, interest in that community- and instead, just giving the typical 40-year lip service out of the Great Society, that- trust us, we’re better, and if you don’t, the Republicans- the Republicans are going to come in a white hood. I’m sick of that.
BLITZER: All right.
STEELE: Right now, let’s talk about how we move people beyond poverty and into opportunity. That’s a debate, and when we get into that one- instead of talking about this stuff- when we get into that one, you’ll start to see some heads turned in this country, and the Republican Party will stand there and have something to say in every community, not just black, white or otherwise.
The full transcript of Blitzer’s interview of Michael Steele, which began 11 minutes into the 5 pm Eastern hour of Wednesday’s Situation Room:
WOLF BLITZER: Let’s get back to another major story we’re following. Former President Jimmy Carter says he’s very disturbed by the tone of some of the most heated criticism aimed at President Obama. He says much of it is born in what he calls ‘racism.’ Listen to what he told anchor Brian Williams on the NBC Nightly News.
FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER: An overwhelming portion of the intensely-demonstrated animosity towards President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man- that he’s African-American. I live in the South, and I’ve seen the South come a long way, and I’ve seen the rest of the country that shared the South’s attitude towards minority groups at that time, particularly African-Americans. That racism [unintelligible] still exists, and I think it’s bubbled up to the surface because of a belief among many white people- not just in the South, but around the country- that African-Americans are not qualified to lead this great country.
BLITZER: Very strong words from former President Jimmy Carter- let’s get some reaction from the chairman of the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele, [who] is joining us now. Mr. Chairman, thanks for coming in.
RNC CHAIRMAN MICHAEL STEELE: Hey, Wolf, good to be with you, buddy.
BLITZER: What do you want to say to the former president?
STEELE: Well, make it short and sweet and simple as possible- you’re just dead wrong. I think the President’s interpretation of what racism is not a reflection of what this is about, and the reality of it is this is about policy, differences in how we approach solving some of these issues that we’re confronting on health care and the economy, and the fact that there are citizens around the country- I don’t care what color they are- that are outraged or confused or concerned or whatever- however they come to this debate- you know, that has nothing to do with the color of the President’s skin. I am, like a lot of Americans, concerned and disagree with the President’s policies and approaches from the stimulus spending to this health care strategy. Am I a racist because I disagree with that? I don’t think so.
BLITZER: But- but there is an element- a tiny element, I should say- small fringe element out there, and you’re sensitive to this, I think- that does have racist views of the President.
STEELE: Well, look, hey, they have the racist views about me. I mean, they’re racist if that’s the case, but that has not been the nature of this policy debate, and that’s where I have the problem with the President’s [Carter’s] comments because he’s elevated it to the point that it is now- you know, a reaction to everything- everybody who has this negative approach or view on this subject is a racist, and that’s not where we are. That’s not where the country is, and I just thought that the President was out of line, and I think that he takes this to a point and to a level that is not reflective of what’s been transpiring in this debate.
My second concern, Wolf, is that when you go down that road, when you just look behind every corner and see race and racism- and that’s not to say it doesn't exist; Lord knows it still does, and I’ve had a problem with this post-racial attitude that some in the Obama campaign, now in the administration, have tried to hoist out there- but when you go down this road and you start just willy-nilly- as I believe President Carter has- throwing race out there, you diminish real instances of race- of racism that needs to be addressed.
BLITZER: Let me point out what Maureen Dowd, the New York Times columnist- she wrote a very powerful column last Sunday. She had another one out today, and today she suggests that- she has an interview with James Clyburn, the congressman from South Carolina, the highest ranking African-American in the U.S. Congress- Democrat. He’s the Whip. She writes this: ‘Over the years, Clyburn tried to look past things that bothered him’ -referring to Joe Wilson, the congressman who screamed ‘you lie’ to the President- ‘Wilson’s membership in some groups that call into question his feelings about his whole notion of white supremacy and his defense of the Confederate flag flying above the Columbia, South Carolina Statehouse.’ So it’s not just Jimmy Carter. It’s Maureen Dowd and others who are suggesting this racial overtone that is out there.
STEELE: Yeah, it is- it is- oh yeah, it is this wonderful ivory tower liberal elite who think they know racism better than I do, who think they understand what it’s like better than I do- they know better than I see it. The reality of it is-
BLITZER: But- but James Clyburn understands what racism- James Clyburn understands racism, right?
STEELE: Well- but James Clyburn- James Clyburn’s experience is different from mine. I don’t hear someone call an individual a liar and immediately jump to racism. And so that’s the problem. This generation of Americans don’t do that. Dr. King laid a foundation that we have progressed from, where we are better at distinguishing vestiges of racism that exist in this country, and so when you step back and you try to wrap around the way Clyburn, Carter and Maureen are trying to do, I think it is disingenuous and it takes real effective approaches to solving racism where it is.
BLITZER: This was a statement that Congress- Democratic Congressman Henry Johnson of South Carolina [sic- Johnson is from Georgia] made, and it’s causing a lot of consternation out there as well. Listen to this.
GEORGIA REPRESENTATIVE HENRY JOHNSON: It instigated more racist sentiment, feeling that it’s okay, you don’t have to- you don’t have to bury it now. You can bring it out and talk about it fully, and so I guess we’ll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people.
BLITZER: Wow. That’s- that’s a pretty powerful statement he’s making.
STEELE: I think it’s an ignorant statement. I think it’s an ignorant statement- I’m sorry. That is just so- so beyond my comprehension that you jump from a member of Congress who blurted out in an emotional response to something the President said, to- all of a sudden, people are going to be running through the neighborhoods wearing white sheets and hoods. I’m sorry, it just to me is beyond anyone’s comprehension that you can make that leap- but that, again, makes my point. And so- you know, I’m where the President [Obama] is on this. Now the President of the United States said- on many occasions- that matters of race- whether we are having a discussion or we’re trying to solve a problem- is a teachable moment. I think that teachable moment- that classroom right now should have Carter and Clyburn and others in it so they understand what the President and I understand- and that is there’s a very fine distinction between what we heard in that hall last week and what we’re hearing right now, and this to me is the problem.
BLITZER: Congressman- Congressman Johnson- I should correct- is from Georgia- not from South Carolina. But you have to admit, if you take a look at some of those rallies, there were some really racist pictures out there. We’ll put a few of them up there on the screen, videos showing- or pictures of the President of the United States as an African witch doctor, if you will. There it is right there. There were- there were these kinds of racist images that were projected at some of those rallies.
STEELE: You know- and look, that’s inappropriate and misplaced. That’s what- how that person may have interpreted it, but for every one of those, Wolf, there were 70, 80, 100- 1,000 other signs that weren’t that, and so this is- this is the distinction I think we need to understand. Don’t hold up one person as an example of behavior by everyone, because that’s not what we’re talking about here, and I think we need to be very careful and sensitive.
If we want to stay serious about solving some of the issues on race, then we just can’t go around every corner claiming it exists there and it exists there when it doesn’t, and that’s- that’s where I have a real problem with a lot of these folks who are coming out here now, trying to play this card from beneath the deck in such a way to stifle debate, to have us focus on something other than the President’s policies. Instead, now we’re having this discussion about race- and finally on this point, I’d like to have the President give his own view on this. Does he believe in what Clyburn and Maureen Dowd have said?
BLITZER: Well, the White House- the White House- the White House press secretary today, Robert Gibbs, agreed with you- he doesn’t believe that racism is part of this angry debate that is out there. So he seems, at least on this narrow point, to agree with Michael Steele.
You have your hands cut out for you. You’re the chairman of the Republican Party, and you have a largely white party. I want to put a picture up on the screen, Mr. Chairman, of the floor of the joint session of Congress- the Democrats and the Republicans. Now, the Democrats are on the right side and the Republicans are on the left side over there, and if you take a look, the left side is mostly white men. There are no African-American Republicans in the House or in the Senate. You look at the Democratic side. There’s a lot of people of color. There’s African-Americans, Latinos- men and women. What are you going to do to try to diversify the Republican Party?
STEELE: I’ll accept the indictment. I’ll accept it- you know, and I know we’ve got to change, and our party has, for over a generation, employed a strategy that right now we wished many of us wish we never have. We have a strong and- I think- a special relationship with the minority community, especially African-Americans in the country, and part of my responsibility and opportunity is to engage- in a new way- those voters out there on ideas that matter to them- on policies that matter to them, whether we’re talking about health care- we’re taking about employment.
You know, I’m looking at cities around the country where black folk live. Now, you showed me the Congress with all these wonderful black Democrats and white Democrats- but I go to black neighborhoods that are run by those same Democrats, and you tell me where racism really exists. Is it in the words of a congressman who says ‘you lie,’ or is it how we strip education funding through opportunity scholarships, or is it how we cut money for our HBCU [historically black colleges and universities] around the country, or is it the fact that so many African-Americans still live in neighborhoods that are burnt out and run down, and those same Democrats that are in that hall and that are running those cities aren’t investing capital, time, interest in that community- and instead, just giving the typical 40-year lip service out of the Great Society, that- trust us, we’re better, and if you don’t, the Republicans- the Republicans are going to come in a white hood. I’m sick of that.
BLITZER: All right.
STEELE: Right now, let’s talk about how we move people beyond poverty and into opportunity. That’s a debate, and when we get into that one- instead of talking about this stuff- when we get into that one, you’ll start to see some heads turned in this country, and the Republican Party will stand there and have something to say in every community, not just black, white or otherwise.
BLITZER: Good- good luck, Mr. Chairman. You’ve got your hands full out there.
STEELE: It’s worth it. I’ve got to do it, man.
BLITZER: All right, we’ll talk- we’ll continue this conversation. Michael Steele is the chairman of the Republican National Committee.
STEELE: All right. Take care.
BLITZER: Thank you.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.





BLITZER: You have your hands cut out for you. You’re the chairman of the Republican Party, and you have a largely white party. I want to put a picture up on the screen, Mr. Chairman, of the floor of the joint session of Congress- the Democrats and the Republicans. Now, the Democrats are on the right side and the Republicans are on the left side over there, and if you take a look, the left side is mostly white men. There are no African-American Republicans in the House or in the Senate. You look at the Democratic side. There’s a lot of people of color. There’s African-Americans, Latinos- men and women. What are you going to do to try to diversify the Republican Party?














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Great job, Mr.
September 16, 2009 - 20:18 ET by equusartsGreat job, Mr. Steele!
"Hypocrisy, the lie, is the true sister of evil, intolerance, and cruelty."
Blitzer
September 17, 2009 - 07:41 ET by allanfIf I am not mistaken, Blitzer has some deep socialist roots. He worked for an Israeli socialist party under a pseudonym earlier in his career.
Watching Blitzers repetitive melodramtic stylings "At this hour ..." is like watching video on a loop.
A little programming note to Blitzer and CNN. It is not a good idea to imply that your viewers are racist.
Agreed
September 17, 2009 - 10:36 ET by CarlosSGreat job, Chairman Steele..., I don't actually watch CNN, EVER, but I wish I had watched this interview.
I read this transcript.
Again, great Job!
So tell us about all those black "News" anchors
September 16, 2009 - 20:18 ET by needle- Relying upon the State Run Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.
Defective Product
September 17, 2009 - 08:32 ET by allanfNo other private sector businesses get away with the daily delivery of defective product like the American left wing media. If medical instruments had the same quality standards and fact checking as our news broadcasts, people would die.
Todays Cafferty e-mail
September 16, 2009 - 20:20 ET by nicksmith112Todays Cafferty e-mail segment was extreme. All white people are racist.
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
"ALL White People are Racist"
September 16, 2009 - 22:12 ET by Mike76yes, that's been coming for a long time. Newsweek suggests that all white children, and only white children, be brainwashed starting as early as 3 to "embrace multiculturalism."
I started to see this coming about 10 years ago. It's a war on white people, and it's not only happening here in the US, but it's happening in every European nation also.
...
September 16, 2009 - 20:21 ET by EugeniaFinally! Michael Steele putting these imbecile race-pushers in their place! (Oh, the irony.) Great job!
"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."
-- GK Chesterton
Good job. Conservatives have
September 16, 2009 - 20:45 ET by MozillaGood job. Conservatives have to speak out.
But they would be out of a job and we would have no trolls.
September 16, 2009 - 20:27 ET by JWFDon’t hold up one person as an example of behavior by everyone...
But then the MSM would actually have to talk about the bill.
And we would not have nwahs here talking about the 2 Nazi signs out of thousands. Or Binky Braveheart talking about a few people legally carrying guns in an open carry state. Or the dozens of trolls with the lowball count on the 9/12 marchers. Or the whining about screaming at town halls.
Don't take that away, it is all they got. The exception to the rule trolls.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Steele
September 16, 2009 - 20:28 ET by cajun2Mr.Steele makes a good point. The DNC has the power but who are they really helping. I am not an economist but I heard something interesting today, hope someone can enlighten me. Beck and Charles Payne were showing new info about the Treasury funneling money to the Fed. I was under the impression that the Treasury cannot do that without permission of Congress. If this is a plan by this administration,(which may be illegal), we are in serious financial trouble. Inflation will eat us up, and then MrSteele will certainly have made his point about the Dems abandoning black communities. The poor of this country will have even less of the wealth than they do now.
At least Steele
September 16, 2009 - 20:31 ET by 10ksnookerthis time didn't get totally sandbagged ... progress, I suppose.
Call me crazy...
September 16, 2009 - 20:36 ET by BKeyseror maybe even racist, but I don't see that sign as racist. If I were trying to depict a president as a witchdoctor of sorts in some type of graphic -and I think many people here have seen quite of a few of my graphic creations on my Flickr account- I might have used the same type of idea.
For the lefties hanging out here- in case you haven't noticed, Obama is a black man- at least half black by geneology- and the witchdoctor used in the picture was a black person as well. They could've used a voodoo reference since most Haitians are black as well. To photoshop Obama's head on Mengele (or some other white, crazed doctor) probably wouldn't have worked.
I read the sign as suggesting that Obama was projecting some sort of unethical or unsafe medical practice. Witchdoctor(ing) or voodoo(ing) would make that point quite well. The fact that Obama is black only makes the reference more photogenic.
I created another photoshop tonight. I wasn't going to upload it because there's nothing special about it, but given this topic, I just loaded it and would like comments as to whether anyone might take this as racism. I assure you, it was not intended to be.
Did you run down his mother's side?
September 16, 2009 - 20:46 ET by nwahs- in case you haven't noticed, Obama is
a black man- at least half black by genealogy- and the witchdoctor used
in the picture was a black person as well.
Half black. More one drop bigotry. How in the hell could you possibly know if Obama is half black by genealogy unless you've explored his family tree? Have you? How in the world can you call Obama half -black intelligently? Does he have any Asian descendants? Hispanic? Native American? You don't see the bigotry it implies when you call someone half-black because one parent has predominantly white features and one parent has predominantly black features?
Everyone is so indignant, "How could the possibly think we're bigots?" Don't you see how bigoted the statement is when you call someone half-black or half-white?
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
nwahs
September 16, 2009 - 20:52 ET by FeynmanFanAre you saying that he has the fraction wrong? Would you think it was better if he knew exactly what part of each race Obama is, so he could say Obama is 2/3 black or 5/16 black or something more definitive like that?
More importantly, why do you care? Are you on a mission or something? I'd really like to know why you're so obsessed with these kinds of things. Seriously.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
I'm saying
September 16, 2009 - 21:01 ET by nwahsI'm saying "half-black" is a bigoted term. It has nothing to do with genealogy. You don't get why? Seriously, this is new to you?
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
nwahs
September 16, 2009 - 21:07 ET by FeynmanFanVirtually anything that people say can be considered a bigoted term any more. It's made the word meaningless and for that reason I don't care.
What are you hoping to accomplish by pushing this issue? Do you have a goal you want to achieve?
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Your argument
September 16, 2009 - 23:04 ET by merlin61Your argument is just for the sake of argument. Nothing you have said makes any sense. You just want to make a "racist" comment about something that isn't "racist" in the first place. We are all human beings created by God. We may all have different colors and different cultures, but we are still children of God. End of stupid argument. No one is above anyone else and shouldn't be above anyone else. No one color is better than any other color. Unfortunately, some people try to make something out of nothing, and that is what you are attempting to do, which you do every single time you try to defend what??????
nwahs is half-idiot/half-troll
September 16, 2009 - 23:19 ET by JWFOh dear, I is racist for saying that.
"vSeriously, this is new to
September 17, 2009 - 01:47 ET by ckc1227"vSeriously, this is new to you?"
Considering you libs like to make things up on the fly, much of what you say is pretty much new to everyone. This is just the latest installment.
nwahs--
September 17, 2009 - 17:26 ET by Kat Outta the Bag"I'm saying "half-black" is a bigoted term."
Would you prefer "half white"?
"It has nothing to do with genealogy."
But it has everything to do with genetics. His father was African and his mother was Caucasian. Would you prefer he be called "mixed race" or even "mutt" then? There's no pleasing you persnickety libs, is there?
The lying exception to the rule troll is upset.
September 16, 2009 - 20:53 ET by JWFSniff. Sniff. I is nwahs. Don't talk about things you can see with your own eyes. Only whiny liberals like me can make pronouncements on race. You is a bigot! Only I nwahs can tell if someones is mulatto. Don't say mulatto. That is bigots. I is nwahs! I is lies!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
→ I see it
September 16, 2009 - 20:53 ET by Cool ArrowAnd I wish the board would just stop with this "not really black" nonsense.
Everyone from Arianna Huffington to Maxine Waters must be enjoying this crap.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Cool Arrow,
September 16, 2009 - 21:58 ET by BarkerWho said he's not really black? Or white, for that matter.
I prefer 'human being' myself.
Barker
September 17, 2009 - 02:56 ET by well99You got that right.Too much focus is all these other stuff instead of policys which will hurt this country.That is what needs to be looked at.Were all Americans.
Barker--
September 17, 2009 - 17:28 ET by Kat Outta the BagI see your point, but it's the liberals who keep insisting we acknowledge his race all the time.
~~Shawn
September 16, 2009 - 21:02 ET by BKeyserMaybe I oversimplified the geneology- but I thought it was accepted as fact that his father was black and his mother, white. In my simple mind, that makes him half black- or conversely, half white. I refer to him as half black because he seems to identify himself more toward his black background than his white background. I don't see that as bigotry as the term bigotry implies a disparaging aspect to a description. I don't see his race, all black, 1/4 black, 1/24th asian, 1/20736th martian, or whatever as a negative. It makes not difference to me what his race is.
So no, only a bigot would see a statement of fact, or at least relative fact, as bigotry.
I'm not going to argue the point
September 16, 2009 - 21:10 ET by nwahsBut to think charges of bigotry come without reason and ignore discussions like these and jokes about "halfricans" just establishes an insurmountable credibility problem. Its not about conservative principles anymore, its about the credibility of the most visible conservatives.
Just my opinion.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
~~Shawn
September 16, 2009 - 21:19 ET by BKeyserNope, not arguing here either. I'm just saying that I'm not bigoted and describing the President as half black is not in any way based in race bias.
However, the Left's use of the race card does serve a purpose and to deny that there is a specific agenda when using this tactic is, frankly, naive. Clearly Obama's allies have suffered a miserable summer based on all the polls. They're losing ground and, I think, they can't understand why. Its a defense mechanism, maybe in the same vein as Rush's comments, but one intended to divert the discussion and try to gain a little breathing room.
The real issue, in my view, is that the misuse of the charge only cheapens it much like the boy and that damn wolf. Sooner or later, if this keeps up, it'll be virtually impossible to prove racism when it really occurs. And that will be the real shame.
But do you see how easy this is to avoid?
September 16, 2009 - 21:24 ET by nwahsWhy in the world does anyone have to say "half-black"? It what situation is that essential? Why do this? Its a dig that comes from a history of bigoted ( in this cae probably racist) axioms.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
nwahs, how would you
September 16, 2009 - 21:25 ET by FeynmanFannwahs, how would you describe him?
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Why don't we send these questions
September 16, 2009 - 21:37 ET by nwahsWhy don't we send these questions governing the proper usage of "half-white" and "half-black" to the NYT so Mr. Bozell and Mr.Beck don't think that its just a matter of leftist media finding the lunatic fringe ( the 12 % that snakes tell what to wear in the morning)?
I would describe him as he describes himself - African-American. Thats not hard.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
"I would describe him as he
September 17, 2009 - 01:43 ET by ckc1227"I would describe him as he describes himself - African-American. Thats not hard."
I thought he was born in Hawaii?
~~Shawn
September 16, 2009 - 21:33 ET by BKeyserExcept for the simple fact that this is a debate about race! The left, in my opinion, created this debate by falsely accusing people of racist undertones. How do you discuss an issue about race, without talking specifically about the man's race? Personally, I would prefer to leave race out of this, as I believe, does 99% of those who attended the DC rally. It's Maxine Waters, and Hank Johnson, and Maureen Dowd, and Jimmy Carter, and others who have promoted this "race" issue when one doesn't really exist.
I spent 6 years in the Marine Corps and there is no racial component to Marines. However, some guys needed more camo paint than others- those guys were called "light green Marines." The ones needing less camo paint were called "dark green Marines." (At the time, woodland camo was the norm, as opposed to now when dessert camo is more common.) All Marines, and equally important, but definitely of varying shades. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
nwahs
September 16, 2009 - 21:47 ET by RESTLESS 1He said "half-black". As a democrat, would you have been more comfortable with "three-fifths" black?
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
"Its a dig that comes from
September 17, 2009 - 01:41 ET by ckc1227"Its a dig that comes from a history of bigoted ( in this cae probably racist) axioms."
It's a dig to you because you're a racist bigot who is used to using it as a dig.
So...what, we should refer
September 16, 2009 - 21:25 ET by Cthulhu2012So...what, we should refer to someone with a white mother and a black father as half-white? Is that less bigoted?
Why choose the lesser of two evils?
mulatto.
September 16, 2009 - 23:21 ET by JWFThat is the word.
nwahs:
September 16, 2009 - 21:04 ET by BarkerCalm down, or you'll need a blood vessel transplant in that forehead of yours.
Now - take a deep breath - and explain to everyone just what is wrong with being half-white.
And check your bigotry at the door.
The child is black; the child is white...
September 16, 2009 - 21:07 ET by nkviking75How in the hell could you possibly know if Obama is half black by genealogy unless you've explored his family tree?
We take his word for it. Just like his citizenship. ;-)
Don't you see how bigoted the statement is when you call someone half-black or half-white?
This comment calls to mind an episode of Star Trek.
And to answer your question: No.
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
"How in the hell could you
September 16, 2009 - 21:10 ET by G. MayNow you're just playing semantics, and poorly at that. Obama's genealogy is widely available and it's rather well known that his family is quite caucasian and from middle America for multiple generations. For all intents and purposes (and in reality) he's half-white, half-black. Would you prefer the term mulatto?
See above. Information readily available to you in less than one minute on a web search. And they say there's no such thing as a stupid question!
Speaking of intelligent arguments, how can you intelligently ask this question? Are you implying that the President has been unfaithful to his spouse? Or that he was getting into the gene pool prior to his marriage? Or did you confuse "descendents" with 'ancestors'? Either way, you got some 'splainin' to do.
Bigot - you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. (Apologies to Inigo Montoya) As I've already pointed out, Obama's roots are readily available and widely known, so you're just being dishonest. Either that, or you've got an overwhelming urge to use the word "bigot" lately. I don't blame you really, a case of the "racist!" has been going around.
Try making some sense rather than re-inventing the language to suit your myopic view.
You're an idiot
September 16, 2009 - 21:16 ET by nwahsBut I will say why I prefer bigot over racist. They can of course mean the same thing, but IMO racist implies a malicious intent to oppress someone where bigotry is probably upbringing and ignorance.
Other than that - I think you're an imbecile so I'll ignore you, and you should probably ignore me.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
Aww, look at that. He's
September 16, 2009 - 21:27 ET by Cthulhu2012Aww, look at that. He's been confronted with a well-reasoned argument that makes actual sense and show his argument to be empty at best, and now he resorts to insults. How cute!
I shall keep him and call him Squishy and he shall be my Squishy.
Why choose the lesser of two evils?
Resorting to name-calling
September 16, 2009 - 21:31 ET by G. MayResorting to name-calling and then taking your toys and going home.
You are gracious in defeat.
That might have been over the top
September 16, 2009 - 22:46 ET by nwahsBut condescension will get you that every time. Must be the Irish in me.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
And what percentage of Irish would that be.
September 16, 2009 - 23:23 ET by JWFHalf-Irish? Oh dear, I is racist because I did not explain your entire geneologicacling tree roots.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
What is wrong with the Irish???
September 16, 2009 - 23:23 ET by UnsaneMust be the Irish in me. What the hell are you saying about Irish people, you racist???
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns, pay no attention to the apprentice pud-knocker here...
September 16, 2009 - 23:34 ET by R D Helm...as he will soon be promoted to junior pud-knocker, once he has been given a (slightly) larger pair of tweezers.
:-)
-Dave
I agree with Rush. It's time for Obama to resign.
Let's recap, shall
September 16, 2009 - 23:34 ET by G. MayLet's recap, shall we?
These are your quotes from one post of yours. The one to which I initially responded. You dropped an insult numerous times for which there was absolutely no basis in fact. You called into question a person's intelligence in a very snotty and condescending manner. And now you're finger-wagging at me for giving you a taste of your own medicine with some facts tossed in where they were sorely needed.
Color me shocked.
nwahs:
September 16, 2009 - 21:52 ET by BarkerSo glad to hear you finally admit that you're a racist and a bigot.
But, hey, that's America, right?
(ignore at your peril)
Obama's genealogy on his
September 16, 2009 - 21:44 ET by celatorObama's genealogy on his mother's side is well known. Because of different systems of record keeping (or no records at all), the genealogy on his father's side doesn't go as far back. For those interested, here's what is known, thus far.
http://www.wargs.com...
Makes not a plumb bob of difference to me what his "mix" is or isn't, it's just interesting, as anybody's genealogy is interesting.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
"Makes not a plumb bob of
September 17, 2009 - 17:38 ET by Kat Outta the Bag"Makes not a plumb bob of difference to me what his "mix" is or isn't, it's just interesting, as anybody's genealogy is interesting."
Doesn't matter to me, either. Black, white, red, yellow...all I see in him is an inexperienced Marxist (I use that term since I know the libs are so sensitive to the 'socialist' word). And while I also find peoples' genealogy to be interesting, it doesn't shape my opinions of them...it's just a passing interest.
Moron
September 16, 2009 - 22:25 ET by Mike76"You don't see the bigotry it implies when you call someone half-black because one parent has predominantly white features and one parent has predominantly black features?"
Bigotry? It's called "genetics" moron. If that is too big and scary of a concept for you, some people refer to it as "common sense."
What are you, retarded? You must have been dropped on your head at birth.
Obama himself says he has a black father and a white mother, which makes him "Half-Black"
You can't be THIS stupid, so you must be a troll.
Mike76, about that last
September 17, 2009 - 00:37 ET by KJ_sezMike76, about that last sentence - the two are not mutually exclusive. He can be that stupid and a troll at the same time. Really, one could be viewed as pre-requisite for the other - especially in his case.
Mike... Before getting
September 17, 2009 - 01:49 ET by JerMike...
Before getting too carried away with the "moron" and "stupid troll" insults, it might be helpful to reflect on the reasons calling someone "half black" or "hAfrican-American" is objectionable in some quarters.
It most likely can be traced to historical efforts to protect the purity of the white race and the subjugation of blacks which generated the practice and subsequent codification of the "one drop rule" [and assorted other fractionalizations] providing that one drop of Negro blood--or 1/16th or 1/8th as the case may be--rendered one "all" black or "all" Negro. Jim Crow laws enacted primarily in the south were designed to keep the races segregated and prevent the ignomy of interracial marriages, so these regrettable discriminatory formulas were established and enforced for decades. Consequently, a light skin individual of mixed ancestry couldn't protest that he was actually half-white or only one-fourth Negro. In the eyes of the law, he was all black.
Yet, now, those who refer to Obama as "black" are being chastised for not describing him in some other racial context.
Jer
Uncle Jer gets in trouble again.
September 17, 2009 - 03:26 ET by JWFUncle Jer is defending nwahs the liar. I can't save you from the crowd this time Uncler Jer.
For one thing, your historical lesson above explains why the offspring of a biracial couple that includes one person of African heritage and any other race ends up being called black. It does not explain why nwahs the liar went nuts because someone said this -
Obama is a black man- at least half black by geneology
Yea, that "g" word scares me.
You are coming to the defense of a man that later declares, on the same page mind you, that the explanation for his anger was the Irish in him. STOP! Sorry? Come again? Yes. It was the Irish blood in him, rousing him up and getting all fiesty. Nothing wrong with that at all huh? No, it was condescension. The Irish blood flowing through his vei.... Enough! He is an idiot of the first order of Irish Idiocy. Come on. You, you over there. Don't you dare say half black. Me, I am half Irish, yes that is allowed!
Yet, now, those who refer to Obama as "black" are...
Here is a new idea. Let's let it go. Not everything has to be examined under a microscope. The original statement Obama is a... should have been let go by nwahs. Everything thereafter should be dismissed as ineligible in court.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
DA in the house
September 17, 2009 - 01:31 ET by ckc1227"Don't you see how bigoted the statement is when you call someone half-black or half-white?"
OK, it's simply no longer in doubt that you are a complete dumbass.
nwahs
September 17, 2009 - 09:04 ET by larry on LIwould you accept bi racial or half african american
Why not call him what he wants to be called?
September 17, 2009 - 09:21 ET by nwahsWhy does anyone feel they have to correct him when he calls himself African-American or black? There is bigotry in the need to that on a constant basis.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
The liar nwahs has no leg to stand when it comes to correcting.
September 17, 2009 - 09:49 ET by JWFhttp://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/09/16/rncs-steele-rebukes-cnn-s-blitzer-race#comment-1033163
wha...
September 17, 2009 - 11:20 ET by katainkentYou keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
I think I know exactly what it means
September 17, 2009 - 12:12 ET by nwahsYou rather I call it racist - fine people who constantly feel a need to correct Obama and say he's half black are racist little pricks. Better?
Don't try to play games with me. I've watched a lot smarter people try to float bigotry and racism as some sort of "conservative" ideal, starting with David Duke and his "welfare class."
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
sure nwahs, whatever
September 17, 2009 - 12:36 ET by katainkentthough I think you'll catch some crap for not ***-ing out your p word.
I am portugese-irish. I don't refer to myself as such, but I have olive skinned children and I have freckling redheads. People naturally ask. I say they are half-irish or half-portugese depending on the kid. I don't judge the person inquiring as being bigoted and I don't think I should be judged as such either.
Your first posts at NB were to defend Imus and his 'nappy headed ho' comment as a 'hip-hop colloquialism' when the MSM was all up in arms calling it a racist comment. And this makes you crazy?
Games? All I have seen on these dozen or so threads of racism is you arguing with other posters about their comments. I have no idea where you're going with this 'conservative ideal' stuff but it reeks of the stuff that 007memo and JRJ have been peddling.
Pardon me for not thinking you're being genuine, nwahs. I'll leave you to tangle with JWF. I'm done.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
Imus wasn't race baiting
September 17, 2009 - 13:05 ET by nwahsImus wasn't race baiting. Imus was trying to talk hiphop and fell on his face. The only people race baiting in the Imus case were the usual race entrepreneurs, Jackson and Sharpton. The problem is not a few bigots in the conservative movement but the loud voices of that movement - web site, Limbaugh , Beck etc. adopting race baiting as a tactic.
And here we go again with words that have real and obscene meanings. Prick is an actual word that doesn't have to mean male parts. I meant insignificant sticky things (pricks).
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
nwahs, Prick is an
September 17, 2009 - 20:04 ET by hydrodynDMnwahs,
Wow. A few days ago I told you that I figured you were here just to play devil's advocate. Now I'm wondering if you're basically just a pathological liar.
Really - you meant "prick" in the sense of "insignificant sticky things"? Really?
Wow.
Hmmm, "pr*ck" is Encino Johnny's favorite go-to insult, too
September 17, 2009 - 12:47 ET by SickofLibsCoincidence or GMTA?
Sol... Yet if you prick him,
September 17, 2009 - 12:52 ET by Jack BauerSol... Yet if you prick him, does he not bleed?
Don't know, Jack
September 17, 2009 - 13:05 ET by SickofLibsHowever, I did prick Encino Johnny one time, but only sap came out.
ha ha SoL.. no booze
September 17, 2009 - 13:15 ET by Jack Bauerha ha SoL.. no booze though?
You think poorly then.
September 17, 2009 - 16:47 ET by G. MayYou think poorly then. There is no intellectual or credible basis you have for throwing that term out with such reckless abandon. Your understanding of the definition of "bigot" is poor at best, and your past use of the terms you're railing against destroys any credibility you have on this subject.
Yea I know
September 17, 2009 - 17:06 ET by nwahsYou have that secret copy of the Merriam-Webster under your pillow.
For most situations racism and bigotry are interchangeable and if you don't get that you are in fact as dumb as you are pretending to be. But most people realize words have nuances and bigotry is generally considered a character flaw born out of ignorance of a wider world, and racism is generally considered a malicious intent or a calculated large scale oppression.
You make no sense when I read your posts. Seriously.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
Don't Blame Me for Your Poor Reading Comprehension
September 17, 2009 - 19:14 ET by G. MayIt seems your reading comprehension suffers from your warped vocabulary. Here, let me boil it down for you:
You called someone a bigot. They weren't being a bigot.
And then there's the fact that someone else has already called you out (and sourced it) for using the 'bigotted' terms you're all up in arms about. That destroys your credibility on this subject.
Does that make sense to ya champ?
Not a bit, chimp
September 17, 2009 - 19:48 ET by nwahsDoes that make sense to ya champ?
Not a bit, chimp. You are easy. I don't need you hanging on my apron. So consider you ignored till you have something of substance. I'm betting that will be awhile.
Politics is showbiz for ugly people
Not a good bet since you
September 17, 2009 - 23:14 ET by G. MayNot a good bet since you already said you'd ignore me in this very thread. You're pretty good at shooting yourself in the foot.
Nice try sport.
Hey, nwahs. eveyone is seeing you for the hypocrite liar you are
September 18, 2009 - 02:18 ET by JWFI see you are busy exposing even more people to your lying you hypocrite liar.
nwahs the liar: Don't you see how bigoted the statement is when you call someone half-black or half-white?
He did not find it offensive a month ago.
Yea, it was all teh funny a month ago.
You can run but you can't hide from your lies.
G May
September 17, 2009 - 20:07 ET by botgthe backwards shawn has no credibility
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
nwahs--
September 17, 2009 - 17:51 ET by Kat Outta the Bag"You rather I call it racist - fine people who constantly feel a need to correct Obama and say he's half black are racist little pricks. Better?"
Hey, whatever makes you happy. For myself, I don't "constantly" say that Obama is half black. I only bring it up with liberal pr*cks call me racist for disagreeing with his policies "because he's black". I remind them that he's also half white and I disagree with that part of him as well...in other words, it's not his race that I have a problem with. If that somehow makes me racist in your eyes then that's your problem, but don't try to make it mine.
"Why not call him what he wants to be called?"
September 17, 2009 - 11:30 ET by SickofLibsNo way will I ever call him My Lord.
Just not doing it.
Your photoshop racist?
September 16, 2009 - 20:53 ET by JerYour photoshop racist? Nope.
Jer
BKeyser:
September 16, 2009 - 20:59 ET by BarkerYou are truly one of the greatest Photoshop Artists of our time.
Keep up the great work.
~~Barker
September 16, 2009 - 21:03 ET by BKeyserway too kind, but I thank you for the compliment.
Great job Michael Steele!
September 16, 2009 - 20:36 ET by d1carterGreat job Michael Steele! Don't let these Fringe Media Outlets play their games with you.
YAY.....!
September 16, 2009 - 20:40 ET by sockit2meSteele got a pair!
Gerrymandering minorities into Congress
September 16, 2009 - 20:53 ET by nkviking75I wonder how many of those minority Democrats are in Congress because Democrat legislatures gerrymandered their districts to guarantee their victory?
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
Excellent point
September 16, 2009 - 21:06 ET by ChaitealoverLiving in California, I'm quite familiar with gerrymandered districts.
Chai
“When all government...in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided...” Thomas Jefferson
Well said, Mr. Steele!
September 16, 2009 - 20:54 ET by TN MomWell said, Mr. Steele!
Humm a civil interview, from CNN? How novel.
September 16, 2009 - 20:56 ET by upcountrywaterBlitzer, didn't interrupt.... I guess if he did it would be considered racism...
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
Steele is very good here.
September 16, 2009 - 21:02 ET by Richard RomanoSteele is very good here. I think he's a fine RNC Chair.
Please lose the bow tie.
September 16, 2009 - 21:11 ET by Red JeepPlease lose the bow tie.
Yes Mr. Steele,
September 16, 2009 - 22:19 ET by BarkerPlease lose the bow tie
Or at least get the kind that spins.....
Ya know,
September 16, 2009 - 21:44 ET by RESTLESS 1The whole racism meme of the left is getting old and tired. You can tell when the liberals are desperate, because all of a sudden, there's a racist around every corner. This time, though, it is out of control. You have supposed news anchors, politicians, crappy ex-presidents all telling us how racist the right is.
Yet, it is not our policies that have taken black fathers out of their children's lives. It is not our policies, that have produced 70+% of black babies born our of wedlock. It is not our policies that are responsible for the dropout rate in the black community. It is not our policies that have seen home ownership in the black community freefall over the past 40 plus years. And, it is not our policies that have killed millions and millions of unborn black babies.
It would be funny, if it weren't so sad, liberals, but your racist policies have succeeded in their racist intent, with devastating consequences. You cannot keep the truth hidden forever. When the truth hits the liberal plantation, you will get yours.
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
I LIKE MIKE
September 16, 2009 - 21:51 ET by carolina09Proud of you, Mr. Steele.
I am so glad that
September 16, 2009 - 22:13 ET by gailannrthis comment section is getting back on a good note (which is what it should have stayed at). Each time I hear Mr. Steele talk lately, I am liking him like I used to. Thank you Mike for being a proud American. I love listening to you again.
Finally...some Steele balls!!!
September 16, 2009 - 23:25 ET by caiobabeI just happened to be cruisin' my XM and hit CNN where I caught this interview. I have to say it was pretty damn good.
Chairman Steele was completely on target but I was more amazed by the monotoned automaton known as Blitzer. Wolf boy was nothing more than a spokeman for the ignornant. I couldn't believe how he would phrase his questions which sounded like every white person was a racist if they had any inclination to disagree with the almighty savior of America...Obama. He quoted some of the most racists remarks from the even more liberal politicians and press with a gotcha type of reporting expecting Steele to reel back but it did not work.
Steele remained well manored, sounded authoritative and by questioning the motives of the quotes, made Blitzer look like he truly belonged at CNN which is nothing more than a house full of completely incompetent one thought robots intent on passing out the liberal Kool-Aid while practicing yellow journalism.
Steele balls.
September 16, 2009 - 23:29 ET by R D HelmYep, it's about time.
-Dave
I agree with Rush. It's time for Obama to resign.
Of course, they could care
September 16, 2009 - 23:39 ET by RR GOPOf course, they could care less about what Mr. Steele has to say unless:
1. It's RINOish.
2. It makes the GOP look bad.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
He gave me hope...
September 17, 2009 - 01:14 ET by nan101Wow!!! I have never heard Steele stand up for his party like that before. He said what a lot of us crazy conservatives have been thinking and talking about.
If he keeps this up I may support the RNC yet. A sane voice in the midst of liberals panic...Wow!!!
Judgement Day - 2010
Is nwahs the liar lying to us again?
September 17, 2009 - 04:10 ET by JWFIs nwahs really offended? His statement from above -
nwahs the liar: Don't you see how bigoted the statement is when you call someone half-black or half-white?
He did not find it offensive a month ago.
Yea, it was all teh funny a month ago.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Stop quoting him before he
September 17, 2009 - 10:28 ET by G. MayStop quoting him before he becomes a victim of a right wing smear campaign.
Good job for a change, Mike, but please lose the bowtie
September 17, 2009 - 07:31 ET by SickofLibsDoesn't add anything.
Sol, Bow ties are a
September 17, 2009 - 11:05 ET by Chris NormanSol,
Bow ties are a distraction in an interview. It's hard to get past them. They're like a big food stain on the shirt - you can't get around them to listen carefully.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Chris: agreed
September 17, 2009 - 11:19 ET by SickofLibsAnd call me a racist, but when I see a bowtie on a black guy the first thing that comes to mind is Calypso Louie & Co.
When I see one on a white guy, I just think nerd.
Either way, they should be banned. Along with argyle socks.
yes!
September 17, 2009 - 08:50 ET by realpatriotthat was wonderful!
I am sick of it too
The Droner
September 17, 2009 - 11:12 ET by Chris NormanOne of the biggest things I hate about the media's dishonest attempts to paint Conservatives with a broad brush of negative accusations - be it "racism", "corruption", or "meaness" - is the way they drone on with their lies, half truths, and nonsensical stretches without any embarrassment at all or any pause when a conservative effectively shuts their arguments down. Blitzer is one of the absolute worst to listen to - he is a droner without peer.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
The truth is that the
September 17, 2009 - 11:29 ET by deerjerkydaveThe truth is that the Republican party has failed to sell conservatism to the public, especially to minorities. The party needs to hit back and expose the left as the true racists as Steele just did. For example, where do Planned Parenthood offices exist? They put them in the black neighborhoods so the left can get rid of the type of people they don't want, according to Justice Ginsberg.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Tax-funded-abortions-and-Justice-Ginsburgs-Michael-Kinsley-moment-51491622.html
Sharpton was first
September 17, 2009 - 11:56 ET by slickwillie2001I believe Al Sharpton was one of the first national figures to point out that the Bamster is not "authentically black''. Al was referring to the Bamster's mixed race and lack of personal knowledge of the black American experience.
Don't forget, Slick
September 17, 2009 - 13:46 ET by BO STINKSBo is "...clean and articulate ..." according to Joe Biden.
"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!" Sam Adams
why doesn't Blitzer resign and...
September 17, 2009 - 20:14 ET by RayRaymake an announcement on his last day that he wants his job given to anybody who is not white?
But no, liberals always want to keep their cushy positions while lobbying to have others be victimized by Affirmative Action quotas.