CNN's Martin: 'Insane' Objectors to Obama Speech to Kids Acting Childish

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On Thursday’s Campbell Brown program, CNN’s Roland Martin berated the critics of the accompanying lesson plan for President Obama’s upcoming speech to school kids, calling them “insane parents.” He later complimented Mr. Obama for the planned speech and made another insult: “I’m glad we have a president who’s willing to speak to children, because maybe these same parents were acting like children.”

Martin appeared with Florida Republican Party head Jim Greer just before the bottom of the 8 pm Eastern hour. After Greer explained his position, substitute anchor John Roberts turned to the CNN political analyst and asked, “Was there a little bit of problem there with the additional materials that were provided to go along with the President’s speech?” He immediately replied on the offensive:

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“No, it’s not a problem. What you have is you have some insane parents who want to bring their ideology into the table....I remember, when I was in school, John, the former head of the Texas Republican Party, George Strake, came to my school. Thank God I didn’t have some crazy parents saying- oh, no, I want my child to opt out of listening to George Strake because he might indoctrinate my child to become a Republican. This is about ideology. Why is it- I mean, I didn’t see people sitting here saying when President George W. Bush went to go read to students- oh, I want to see what book he’s reading. I want to opt- pull my kid out of the class because I’m a Democrat, he’s a Republican. This is absolute nonsense.”

Later, Roberts asked Martin, “Does he [Greer] have a point about this curriculum should not have been distributed?” The CNN analyst replied by continuing his offensive against the Republican leader and the critics of the initial lesson plan:
Roland Martin, CNN Political Analyst | NewsBusters.orgMARTIN: No. Jim doesn’t have a point because what he’s complaining about- that students are going to be writing letters to the President. Do you know how many children every day in classrooms, as a part of the process, actually write letters to the president- to the White House? There are kids they send packets every day to the White House from schools all across this country. This is politics, John. Jim wants to dance around it.

You know, people who are bringing their ideology who are saying, I don’t want my child listening to this liberal Democratic president-

GREER: I’ve never said that-

MARTIN: When you don’t have people complaining- John, your letter was ridiculous- talking about health care and the auto industry.

GREER: I have never said-

MARTIN: He’s talking about kids staying in school. Your letter was incendiary-

GREER: That the President should not be allowed-

MARTIN: And it was on purpose.

GREER: I- I believe that the president, any president, should be allowed to talk to students on the first day of school to talk to them about staying in school and the benefits of an education. I believe that- this president included. But this President- this President made a decision-

MARTIN: You just said any parent should have the ability-

GREER: Let me finish, Roland. Roland, no- no, I haven’t said anything about pulling kids out.

MARTIN: Okay.

GREER: Others are saying that. I do believe- let me finish. I do believe that parents- parents, not the government, should decide what their children should be exposed to, and I would tell you in this day and age, I think the President has enough to do focusing on the economy and finding jobs for Americans than writing lesson plans out of the Oval Office.

MARTIN: Well, you know what?

GREER: That’s what’s concerning.

MARTIN: You know what, Jim? Considering the dropout rate in this country, and concerning so many kids don’t even understand civics in the United States, I’m glad we have a president who’s willing to speak to children, because maybe these same parents were acting like children- maybe they can’t listen. Maybe the kids can also teach them a lesson on how to have some respect for the President of the United States.
Well, it’s not surprising Martin is so uplifted by President Obama, as he was CNN’s resident spokesman for the Democrat during the 2008 presidential campaign.

—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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This is politics,

And that's exactly the problem.  If the Dear Leader would stop at "stay in school", that would be fine.  But we all know, having seen what is actually planned, that this is indoctrination.  It isn't about "stay in school", it's about do what your president says.  And aren't those posters of Dear Leader just great?  The ones the Dept. of Education sent guidelines out for us? 

So, Roland, would the hour be better spent, oh maybe, I don't know, teaching "civics" or, as it's really called now, "American Government"?  What a typical lefty Maroon.  

Why don't you just man-up

Why don't you just man-up and admit the fact that you don't like the idea of a black man in authority speaking to kids – about anything. Indoctrination? What malarkey! The idea that the president would attempt some kind of mind control on children in front of the entire world is preposterous. At the end of the day, it wouldn't matter what Obama planned to say to these kids. People here would still be attacking him and his "nefarious" motives. The notion that it is wrong for kids to look up to and admire the President of the United States is without precedent in the history of this country. Why is that? Many presidents, including Reagan, G H W Bush and G W Bush, have made speeches to school children and even talked about their policies. Reagan talked about how his tax cuts saved the country from a recession, which was totally false. Where were you saviors of democracy back then? "Dear Leader"? What is that supposed to mean? Never mind, I'll tell you. It's the common tactic used to discount the thinking of tens of millions of Americans who support what this president is trying to do. You think that, because you have no loyalty or admiration for Obama, that you are somehow more objective about the issues when exactly the opposite is true. If you want to go after the school board for coming up with its totally innocuous curriculum following Obama's speech, fine. Live it up. But the suggestion that a speech which is intended to encourage kids to work hard in school and study is some kind of veiled attempt to brain-wash children is fatuous and disgusting. And totally expected in this forum.

You and your deck

of race cards. What, are you the designated ad-hominem attack dog for September 5th?

Why does it always have to be Obama's race? Try this on for size; I don't agree with our Presidents ideology. 

"Beware the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden

YOU are the racist here, pal.

YOU think WE think the way YOU think.

After all the reasoned arguments we bring to this forum about Obama's history, his upbringing, his mentoring, his known socialist and Marxist leanings and his outrageous usurpations and negations of constitutional separation of powers...

...and his proven history of brainwashing schoolchildren to the point they even march in uniform and sing his praises...

...therefore bringing up justified fears that this latest address is more of the same...

...the first and ONLY thing that comes to YOUR mind is 'race'.

Anyone who uses race to attack OR defend a point is a RACIST. Period.

That's YOUR problem, pal...not ours.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

Some would call this

Some would call this sophistry. I just call it bullshit. And I'm not your "pal". 

"Nationalized healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE"? You sound like the world's only living brain donor.  

Well how many conservatives on here have brought up race, pal?

And how many liberals here have brought up nothing but race?

You're getting pecked to death here, pal.

Your arguments are being demolished, your claims are increasingly being unmasked as wrong or even false, and you're developing a seriously thin skin.

If you want to do anything resembling research, pal, try Googling 'NHS horror stories' and you'll see how faceless bureaucrats kill Britons every day.

Look for the one where a woman undergoing chemo for colon cancer illegally spends her own money for a second drug that the NHS refused to pay for, although her doctor told her it would increase her chances of survival.

Read how the NHS caught her and withdrew ALL MEDICAL TREATMENT from her as a PENALTY for spending HER OWN MONEY on HER OWN CARE.

Read how she DIED from colon cancer.

The best part? This woman was an NHS employee.

If that's what they do to their own workers, how do you think they treat the peasants

You're G**damn right nationalized health care is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Now run along, young'un...it's 'adult swim' time on NB.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

Is this a trick question?

Is this a trick question? People here camouflage their bigotry with political drapery that is completely transparent.

Nationalized health care is a death sentence? Really? Is that why the United States is the only western democracy not to offer affordable health care to its citizens?  

 

http://johnrj08.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/this-is-a-must-see-for-every-american-who-is-interested-in-health-care-reform/ 

You're a trip, pal. You really are.

You come on here sniveling about how we're all racists, no one listens to opposing view, no dissent is permitted, and the whole time we're RESPONDING to you.

Do you expect us to fall at your feet and worship your vastly superior intellect? Riiiiiight.

How do we 'camouflage' our 'bigotry', pal? I guess you're more intellectually honest than we are...you don't even TRY.

Typical liberal. Even while people are kissing your butt instead of throwing it off this forum, you still want to whine about being a victim.

"Is that why the United States is the only western democracy not to offer affordable health care to its citizens?"

Hey. There's this new thing our government has just recently introduced. It offers, not 'affordable', but FREE medical care for its neediest citizens.

You might have heard of it. Actually, them. They're called MEDICARE and MEDICAID. And they're universally acknowledged as going BROKE.

Medicare and Medicaid reimburse providers, when they finally get around to doing so, at well below the going rate. That means that providers, to keep from going broke, have to charge the difference to private healthcare insurance.

THAT'S why an aspirin costs $5.00 and a hospital meal costs $20.00. Plus anyone who's lived above ground for the last year or so knows about the law mandating treatment at any ER.

(ERs must provide lifesaving, stabilizing treatment...except for the ER Michelle Obama managed. She dumped patients on local clinics, in violation of federal law, despite multimillion dollar federal subsidies to provide such treatment.)

Government never keeps their promises. Which government program anywhere has ever had enough money to do their job?

Obamacare promises, in writing, that there will be NO rationing. That is a damn LIE. There wil never be enough money to provide everyone the type of medical care they want...or even need.

Tennessee's state-run healthcare system has been broke for years. They've tried repeatedly to impose a state income tax on its citizens for the first time to pay for TennCare.

Hawaii only recently introduced a state-run healthcare system. They had to repeal it within a year due to unanticipated skyrocketing costs. 

There WILL be rationing...and therefore government will have the power of life and death over you and your family.

Did you look up 'NHS horror stories' like I suggested? I don't think you did...because you'd have a different take on the issue.

Now run along, pal...Uncle Mike's going out to work on his Harley.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

JR

Please refrain from R-rated words. We here at NB work to stay "above the fray".

And stop hating white people.

 

can I see that deck?

just as I suspected.

___________________________________________
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.  ~Thomas Jefferson

JR--

"Why don't you just man-up and admit the fact that you don't like the idea of a black man in authority speaking to kids – about anything."

My next-door neighbor is blacker than Obama, and if I had any kids I'd trust him completely with them because he has never shown any signs of having a (barely) hidden Marxist agenda. 

So why don't you just man up and admit the fact that nobody here gives a rat's backside about the president's skin color except you.

And, of course, you'd know

And, of course, you'd know if he had because you are a political scientist and you know exactly what a "Marxist agenda" sounds like. Right? Of course, you can't point to a single thing Obama has tried to do that is Marxist or socialist, even though you may think you can. Why is it that whenever racists are called on being racist, they immediately whip out their "black friends" or "black neighbors" resume? 

Because I really do have a

Because I really do have a black next door neighbor with whom I also share a back yard.  That seems to bother you to the point of snidely insinuating that I'm something I'm not.  How very 'progressive' of you! 

JRJ08, And why is it that

JRJ08,

And why is it that whenever someone expresses opposition to Obama, folks with no substantive arguments whip out the race card?

I'm curious - can you provide any links to comments posted by folks on this site which back up your claims of racism?

First of all, I don't buy

First of all, I don't buy that you're "curious" about anything. I don't see any introspection, self-doubt, or willingness to listen in this forum at all. You're all here to validate each other's delusions. I could back up a 20-ton dump truck filled with "substantive arguments" and unload them on this forum and would get the same exact replies. But I'll answer your question anyway. This is a forum where no opposing views or contrary facts are permitted. When someone dares violate that guideline, they are set upon by dozens of puerile, ignorant and totally irrelevant comments. This president has ten times the energy and intellect of the last president, and he managed to run a campaign which elected the first black president. He is a Constitutional scholar who was the first African-American who was president of the Harvard Law Review. Yet the vile comments in this forum depict him as a political thug who is too stupid and untrustworthy to be president. Comments are frequently made here which question his citizenship and past associations which, in fact, never existed. This eagerness to attack the president and embrace thoroughly debunked rumors and half-truths is indicative of an agenda which has nothing to do with differences of opinion on political issues or even ideology. The race card is an ugly card to play, but it is completely appropriate for the tone and content of this forum. In other words, if the shoe fits...

This president has ten

This president has ten times the energy and intellect of the last president - Clearly not true.

In addition, he is not a contitutional scholar. He was a part time lecturer at the University of Chicago.

And if you don't stop the vile, nasty puerile tactic of calling people racists because they disgree with Obama, I suspect your account will be removed.

I think that's what you want.

"Ask not what you can do for your country; ask what you can do for your President..."

Jack--

"And if you don't stop the vile, nasty puerile tactic of calling people racists because they disgree with Obama, I suspect your account will be removed. I think that's what you want."

Of course it is.  Then he can go back to his HuffPo friends and whine about how mean NB is for not letting him exercise his right to free speech.  The poor neolibs are always the victims, dontcha know.

JRJO8 - Thanks for sharing

So, you think that the people on this forum are racists?  You think that Obama's "energy and intellect" make him immune from criticism?  That he's criticized for past associations that never existed?  You think that the "attacks" are not based on differences of opinion, political issues or ideology?  Are you implying that all the "attacks" on Obama are because of his race?

I agree that there are people from both sides of the argument that will thump on each other at the drop of a hat, but you are wrong about the motivations of the overwhelming majority of people on this forum.  You seem to be using the same red herring that so many other Obama supporters use when they can't defend something that Obama's doing.  It's possible to be opposed to what Obama's doing without having a racial basis for doing so.

But thanks for sharing.

 

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

JR--

"This president has ten times the energy and intellect of the last president"

Honestly now...it's best to leave the overexagerrations to little children who don't know better. 

"The race card is an ugly card to play"

And yet you play it so willingly and with such glee; it's kind of a knee-jerk reaction with you, isn't it?  I find it interesting that the only person who keeps bringing up race is you...so doesn't that make you the racist here?  How's that shoe fitting?

JRJ08, Well, let's take a

JRJ08,

Well, let's take a look at your very nicely worded excuse for why you won't actually argue your points.

This is a forum where no opposing views or contrary facts are
permitted. When someone dares violate that guideline, they are set upon
by dozens of puerile, ignorant and totally irrelevant comments.

Not permitted? That would imply that NB automatically bans dissident voices, which of course, isn't the case. I think a better word might have been "welcome" but that isn't true either since I, like many others here, look forward to opposing views.

Your characterization of other poster's comments is irrelevant to my post to you. Unless you are suggesting that my posts to you are "puerile, ignorant" and "irrelevant" - and please, go ahead and try - that doesn't excuse you from engaging in an actual discussion with me.

This president has ten times the energy and intellect of the last
president, and he managed to run a campaign which elected the first
black president. He is a Constitutional scholar who was the first
African-American who was president of the Harvard Law Review.

...

This eagerness to attack the president and embrace thoroughly debunked
rumors and half-truths is indicative of an agenda which has nothing to
do with differences of opinion on political issues or even ideology.

Here's one for you - what if I were a physicist with an Ivy League education - would that mean that any opposition to my posts here have to be motivated by some ulterior motive other than simple opposition to my views? Because, you know, with such impressive credentials, my posts would have to be dripping with incontrovertible truth, right?

And I'm curious (really), can I assume that the last eight years of the most vile crap thrown at Bush, Cheney, et al. were motivated by something other than opposition to that administration's policies?

The race card is an ugly card to play, but it is completely appropriate
for the tone and content of this forum. In other words, if the shoe
fits...

Look, ultimately you are speculating. You have put together a theory which suggests that the level of opposition to Obama can't just be based on opposition to his policy - it has to be something else. So you decide it has to be his race.

Well, that's a theory. Do you know how we test theories in science? We collect empirical evidence to support them. So, again, I'll ask you - can you provide any actual links to comments made here that are racist in nature? I am asking you to provide empirical evidence for your theory.

I think this is the part where you call me a racist and tell me my post to you is puerile.

Well, Jr

as you've been handed  your head many times, by posters much more eloquent than I, I'll just say that, if you'd paid attention, you would have answers to your questions.  Who cares if Dear Leader is black, white, (he's both), or green, with yellow polka dots?  If he has his Department of Education send out lesson plans to reinforce his points, going so far as to have the children write about how they can "help" the president, it goes beyond a pep talk about staying in school.  Again, the school boards across the country didn't come up "with it's totally innocuous curriculum", the Federal Department of Education did.  To the point of sending out ideas for posters glamorizing the president.  But you can't address that either, because, deep down in your little mind, you know it's the truth. 

So, in  your own words, "man up", admit you're so far behind the curve on intelligent discussion that your posts are laughing points, not talking points.  And, without the race card, you have nothing cogent to lend this discussion.  

→ Careful, UpNorth

You'll have nwaaahss change his tagline to:

"You've been handed your head many times" - UpNorth advocating barbaric execution without trial for those in disagreement with him

 

I know,

CA, I know.  (hangs his head).  I'll plead permanent sanity. 

I'm wondering if JrJ isn't Professor Gates, the way he throws the race card around.  

Article in LA Times today-- On the Money!

While it long ago crossed the borders of reason and civility, the hysteria over healthcare reform is -- at some level -- understandable, because wellness and infirmity are really just stand-ins for those most terrifying of issues, life and death.

But there is no similar way to rationalize the bizarre controversy now raging over President Obama's plan to deliver a brief televised address on Tuesday to the nation's grammar school children.

According to Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Obama will "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

Sounds innocuous. Who, after all, could be against good study habits, personal responsibility and productive lives? As it turns out, quite a number of people who seem to believe that Obama intends to induct their children into -- well, it's not quite clear what they're afraid of. The Web and talk radio are abuzz with various attempts to organize a boycott of Tuesday's speech. One group is urging parents to demand that their children be excused from watching the president and be sent instead to the school library to read the Founding Fathers. (The theory, one supposes, is that a good dose of the Federalist Papers will inoculate the young against Obama's attempts to subvert the republic through good grades.)

On Wednesday, Fox News devoted a substantial portion of one of its prime-time newscasts to a discussion of whether Obama is, in fact, trying to seduce schoolchildren to some darkly obscure personal agenda. The sole guest, a spokesman for the libertarian Cato Institute, reported that "we've gotten a lot of calls from people asking, 'How do I keep my child from being indoctrinated?' "

On Thursday, Jim Greer, chairman of the Florida Republican Party, accused the president of attempting to "indoctrinate America's children to his socialist agenda." According to Greer, "the idea that schoolchildren across our nation will be forced to watch the president justify his plans for government-run healthcare, banks and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other president, is not only infuriating but goes against the beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power."

Anxiety over the speech seems particularly high in Texas, where many districts are offering parents involved in the boycott movement the option of taking their children out of class. (Whoever thought we'd see Texas treat advocacy of personal responsibility like sex education?)

The irony wasn't lost on everybody in the state. Puzzled Texas education officials told the Houston Chronicle that students often watch presidential speeches broadcast during school hours and that, in 1989, President George H.W. Bush specifically spoke to students about drug abuse. "It's hard to imagine anything more ridiculous than attacking the president of the United States for talking to students about the importance of getting a good education and being a good citizen," said Kathy Miller, president of a statewide school monitoring group. "I wish our elected leaders were responsible enough to denounce this kind of wild-eyed paranoia. But the problem is too many of them are actually feeding this kind of nonsense -- like when the governor flirts with secessionists and state Board of Education members say the president sympathizes with terrorists."

Miller has identified precisely the process at work in the healthcare hysteria and, increasingly, elsewhere where the GOP thinks it can shove the Obama administration into a ditch. Republican officials such as the Florida state chairman are playing a dangerous game with an unhinged segment of public opinion that regards Obama not as an elected official with whom they disagree, but as an illegitimate usurper of the presidency.

That paranoid fantasy is what's really behind the "birther" movement and the allegations that the president is -- take your pick -- a secret Marxist or a secret Muslim.

It's the kind of fanciful anxiety that produces comments like this, posted on a conservative website this week: "Barack Obama and his left-wing Chicago machine regime are putting into place laws and institutions which will insure that there will never again be free elections in America."

These are the people who are stockpiling ammunition and keeping their children at home next Tuesday.

Where will Obama get his 'civilian national security force"?

If Obama's going to get the 'civilian national security force' he promised, which will be just a 'well equipped and as powerful as the military', to meet his 'national security objectives', he needs to start brainwashing the little carpet crawlers early.

And yes, before you start throwing around conspiracy theories, pal, that's exactly what Obama said.

So either Obama is lying or he just told the entire world he wants a freakin' force of 'brownshirts' as powerful as the military!

 And you're surprised that we're just a bit worried about what this wannabe tinpot tyrant wants with our kids?

 (Hell, you'll probably volunteer. No arm twisting for you. Gimme that armband and whip.)

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

→ Tailgunner

Just wait until Eric Holder empties out the prisons.  He'll have plenty of soldiers to patrol America.

It's the same logic that puts a Tax Cheat in charge of our tax dollars, and another tax cheat in charge of writing the tax laws..

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

Maybe the kids can teach Obama a lesson..

Seeing how it's the President, his administration, leading Democratic lawmakers and Democratic pundits, and so many in the MSM using so much energy in the daily effort of smearing the opposition (name calling - expressing intolerance of other views, etc); perhaps Roland Martin needs to work on his wording here.

Here's a bit of a hint: 

Maybe the kids can also teach them the President and his administration a lesson on how to have some respect for the President all the citizens of the United States.

(;~/ gary

Stop calling parents insane

The leftists extremists are going insane.

This is a joke, right?

This is a joke, right?

 

You're... YOU are talking about respect? Yeah, has to be a joke. 

pushing parents

to further abdicate their responsibility to their children.  How charming.

Think a minute.  WHY is there such a high dropout rate.  Then walk backward from there.

ODS has hit a new high with

ODS has hit a new high with this one...you guys treat the president of the USA like he was KSM!!!! The POTUS is now not good enough to talk to the American students about staying in school?  Why do conservatives take such pride in stupidity?  I don't get it.  You guys understand that just because someone reads books or can use big words does not make them a communist! LOL

Perhaps....

...parents aren't "insane" at all, but rather they just plain old fashioned don't trust the SOBama...

After all we have had 8 months to observe his blithering bullshit.

Neither are they willing to surrender their kids to a day of his whim and caprice.

Let TOTUS make his remarks to parents, and let the parents pass the info on - if they see fit to do that - to the kids.

If he knocked on your door and wanted to talk to your kids without you being present, would you let him in without question?

 I sure as hell wouldn't ! Not my kids, not now, not ever.

Not my President...not now, not ever

 

And why do you really think

And why do you really think those parents don't trust Obama? Could it be that they will never accept a black man in the White House, and that a black man can't possible be intelligent enough to run the country? You say the president should never talk to school kids. Where do you think George W. Bush was sitting on the morning of September 11th? By the way, you are a liar. If President Obama came to your home and knocked on the door, you know damn well that you would let him in. And you would serve him coffee and donuts, too. All you're doing here is showing a lot of macho bluster. 

Why don't you spare us

the race crap already.  

"Beware the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden

Encino Johnny, One Trick Pony, plays race card #178

The black half of Obama is too stupid to run country. Yup, that's all there is to it, Johnny.

ps: I don't want to have donuts with Obama. Look at what happened to Joe the Plumber, and Obama never even got near his door.

– Your Pal, The Pr*ck 

you know, SOL

According to his theory, if John Edwards or Hillary Clinton had won the DNC nod, Republicans would be fawning over them and applauding their every move.

 

excuse me, JRJ

A lot of us trust our kids with black teachers, professors, and tutors every day.

As for having black people in the government, I seem to recall conservatives standing behind Clarence Thomas while certain liberals publicly hoped he would die an early death. I also recall Condi Rice being loved by conservies while the left called her a "house negro." And let's not even talk about the racism routinely on display against folks like Michelle Malkin.

The left loves minorities - as long as they stay on the liberal plantation. As soon as they drift toward conservative values, they're Uncle Toms, turncoats, self-loathers, traitors to their race.

Not to mention the constant stream of anti-white rhetoric coming from lefties. Whites poison inner city minority neighborhoods, whites spray poison pesticide onto immigrant farmhands, typical white people are afraid of strange blacks, the American government invented AIDS to kill blacks, Bush ignored New Orleans because he hated blacks, etc.

It's quite a racket the left has going on. Those people hate you because of your skin color, and they're dumping poison into your neighborhood on purpose. And if you ever think about joining their side, you can forget about being an "authentic" minority and just count yourself as an Uncle Tom. Real minorities stay inside their ghetto in Detroit and vote for Democrats no matter what.

Provide proof of racism on display at NB. Not your gut feeling, assumptions, opinion, etc. Show us proof of racism on display on NB - or shut the heck up.

 

JRJ08......

...the 08...is that as in Section 8???

I think parents don't trust SOBama because they have observed him for 8 months...you're the one making the argument that he is black. I don't buy that for a minute.

"You say the president should never talk to school kids." Well, hotshot, I never said any such thing...you did. My words are still posted for all to see...but your misquote...or lie...... has not been corrected. Why not?

"By the way, you are a liar. If President Obama came to your home and knocked on the door, you know damn well that you would let him in."

I never said I wouldn't let him in, idiot.

I never wrote this garbage you are spewing...

Once again, you have taken it upon yourself to create another fictious account of what - you say - I stated. And - once again -my words are still there for all to see and compare with yours.

So, who is the REAL liar?

Oh, and for the record, it isn't macho bluster...its true machismo.

You and your president were both cut from the same bolt of cloth.

 

 

 

 

 

No, I wouldn't let him

No, I wouldn't let him in.

Nor Clinton, Bush Sr., Carter, Nixon, or LBJ.

 

Spare me the posturing, OK?

Everything about this guy has been a cult of personality.

Teachers have been some of the worst offenders.

They assign children art projects on Obama.

Kids march in formation or sing in chorus about our Dear Leader like, well, he was Dear Leader or something.

Teachers' unions, like every other union, are heavily invested in Obama and Democrats.

The difference lies in the type of investment.

SEIU, UAW and other unions invest hundreds of millions of dollars torn from members' paychecks with no concern for their political persuasion.

But the NEA invests your kids' minds in the pursuit of Obama's agenda..

And they don't give a damn about your political leanings either.

Teachers continuously bypass parents when it comes to some type of indoctrination such as Gore's farce, 'An Inconvenient Truth' or Michael Moore's steaming piece of crap, 'Fahrenheit 911'.

Of course parents are going to speak up when this kind of thing comes up. They know what teachers do when no one's watching.

'Staying in school'? Have you read what Obama cut out of the speech?

The only thing missing was how to rat on your parents. (Maybe that was in the curriculum.)

You show your ignorance when you smear conservatives as 'stupid'.

But we show our intelligence when we conclude that you're coming across as a blithering idiot.

Please reply. Please.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

Critical Vs. Honesty

ODS has hit a new high with this one...you guys treat the president of
the USA like he was KSM!!!! The POTUS is now not good enough to talk to
the American students about staying in school? 

You really should try to live up to your screen name.

Critical thinking on the issue would result in understanding that if a President is going to be the first to directly address students in a captured environment then it is not a good idea to also be the first President to push teachers into incorporating a companion "lesson plan" asking students to "help the President" in his goals. Now that line has been changed to "thinking about educational goals" which begs the question: Does a third grader really have the maturity or analytical skills to decide education goals?

Why do conservatives
take such pride in stupidity?  I don't get it.  You guys understand
that just because someone reads books or can use big words does not
make them a communist! LOL

Critical thinking in regards to whether Obama is a "communist" would result in never finding any empirical proof (sorry about the big word) that Obama declared himself a communist. But critical thinking would allow one to come to the unquestionable conclusion that Obama is an enabler for communists, socialists, and totalitarians, not just on a foreign policy level (Iran, Iraq, Syria, Cuba, PLO, Chavez, CIA special prosecutor, battlefield miranda rights, etc.)  or domestic policy level (census, ACORN, "timulus", executive pay, auto industry, fishy emails, "hate crime", card check, union oversight, White House visitor logs, NEA, social netwroking "captures", unsolicited emails, etc, and of course, health care reform) but also as an employer (Van Jones, Jarrett, Holdren, both Emanuels, Browner, too many to list.)

Barack Obama has history of radical associations from Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Cass Sunstein, Frank Marshall, etc. to explain not only his thought process but also his core values.  

Critical thinking would ultimately result in defining your little screed as anything but critical thinking.

IH, LOL-I appreciate the effort, but you are wasting your time

Criticalthinker here has about all the intellectual depth of a sheet of cellophane, and appears to have received his "education" from Postal Service rejects.

I count him among those who are truly too stoopid to exist in a free society.

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

You need to bone up on your history

 "...President is going to be the first to directly address students in a captured environment..." 

You need to bone up on your history. Where was George W. Bush sitting on the morning of September 11th, Einstein? Where did Ronald Reagan hold his townhall with school kids? 

And you need to bone up on your propaganda, Johnny

Bush on 9-11 was simulcast nationally into every classroom in the country, and with prepared before and after lesson plans?

You're changing what you

You're changing what you said. Now you're saying Obama is the first to speak "nationally" to kids? OK. So you think that no teachers have ever asked their pupils to watch a State of the Union address? Or give a current event report on something a president has said? Please explain the nefarious nature of these "lesson plans" which threaten the very foundation of our democracy. 

here's a little project for you

Show us proof of Bush or Reagan passing out worksheets where students were required to write an essay about how they could help the president on a personal level.

Oh, I forgot, Obama pulled that out of the curriculum - after bloggers started a national outcry.

 

Obama didn't come up with

Obama didn't come up with the curriculum, dope. The schools are doing that in order to take advantage of the event and use it as a teaching tool. The President of the United States is giving a pep talk to school kids and you hate that. Remarkable. And sad. 

the... www.ed.gov school?

where is that exactly? 

___________________________________________
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.  ~Thomas Jefferson

~False

The schools are doing that in order to take advantage of the event and use it as a teaching tool. 

Do your research, dope.

President Obama's plan to inspire the nation's schoolchildren with a
video address next week erupted into controversy Wednesday, forcing the
White House to pull out its eraser and rewrite a government
recommendation
that teachers nationwide assign students a paper on how
to "help the president."

Presidential aides acknowledged the White House helped the U.S.
Education Department craft the proposal
, which immediately was met by
fierce criticism from Republicans and conservative organizations who
accused Mr. Obama of trying to politicize the education system.

 

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

choselife3x, Darn - you

choselife3x,

Darn - you beat me to it.

~Hi hydro!

I've covered this topic so much in the past few days I had that link cocked and locked, so to speak.

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

JRJ08, Um, I think you

JRJ08,

Um, I think you forgot to put "racist" in there somewhere.

By the way, according to USA Today, those lesson plans were sent to the schools - not created by the schools as you seem to suggest. Who do you think sent them?

crippled non-thinker,

My guess is that I have read more books in my life than you even know exist.

-And I read stuff like The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Shelby Foote's three volume narrative of the Civil War (which I covered in less than two weeks while working 50+ hrs/wk), and The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, just for the fun of it.

Somehow, in your case, I don't think occasionally perusing the Utne Reader measures up.

Not even close.

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

Oh, well, two out of three ain't bad.

I never heard of the Civil War set.

Being from Massachusetts, I figger that since us yankees whupped you rebels fair n square, that's all we needed to know.

And I read the other two before I was seventeen.

Not bad for a racist, throwback, inbred, redneck, mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging conservative troglodyte, huh?

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

Gosh, TG... When I was in

Gosh, TG...

When I was in my teens I hadn't progressed beyond the "We Were There" book series [We Were There at the Battle of the Alamo, etc.]

Yeah, you whupped us, but I don't know how "fair n square" it was.  Y'all had those guns that could "fire all week and then reload on Sunday".  Of course, us Rebs bragged that one of us could whup ten Yanks.  Turned out we couldn't even handle one or two of you.

Shelby Foote was one of the principal commentators on Ken Burns' The Civil War documentary on PBS.  And Foote's own Civil War trilogy is absolutely superb.

Jer

I got a pretty non-PC education for the time...

...when I was in junior high and high school...you know, we live in a great country and all that junk...=D.

But now that I'm older I realize that what I learned about the Civil War was, ah, incomplete.

(Please let's not get into this discussion. It's a minefield. I got banned from Free Republic as a result of arguments over Lincoln's role in the war. You think Catholicism is a hot button topic? You haven't seen anything.)

I do remember a TV series called 'You Are There' with Walter Cronkite.

That was during the 'Golden Age' of television, in the years B.B.S. (Before Britney Spears).

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

Don't worry... I wasn't

Don't worry...

I wasn't trying to venture into the minefield.  Besides, while my heart is with the South, my head is with the North, and I rely on the latter in debate.

Jer

Talking, or teaching? It can't be both.

"The POTUS is now not good enough to talk to the American students about staying in school?"

Is the President just talking to the students or is he trying to TEACH to them?  The Obama administration is promoting this as a motivational speech, but that's NOT what is planned.  Since the Dept of Education is issuing curriculum instructions to all participating schools, instructions that assign "activities" to accompany his "speech," I'd say this is an attempt to "educate" the kids and not "motivate" them.  You don't "motivate" people by assigning them lessons and activities, you TEACH them by assigning them lessons and activities, correct?  So, who is it that is truly displaying a lack of critical thinking skills here?  Us or you?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

How dare a Constitution

How dare a Constitution scholar and President of the United States attempt to "educate" our kids. Shame on him. Are you kidding? Since when is it a crime for kids to learn about a participatory democracy? What is wrong with the President talking to kids about government and civics? What is your real fear? That they will see a black man in authority? Is that what you're really afraid of here? And, please explain to me how you can motivate ANYONE without teaching them? 

JRJ08- First, Obama a

JRJ08- First, Obama a constitution scholar? really isn't having a national healthcare a violation of the consititution?  

2nd- I couldn't care less of if Obama is black, maybe YOU have an issue with having a black president-why else would you keep throwing it around here when it is not an issue here., i don't want Obama asking my son how he would help HIS agenda when i do not believe in it.

JAJT

Obama should start using

Obama should start using big words, because the constant use of "I" and "me" is getting tedious.

And as you like abbreviations so much, that's funny really, because TOTUS and his lapdog AG treat the CIA like they are KSM or UBM.

In addition, the ability to read big words from a teleprompter does not make him smart. 

"Ask not what you can do for your country; ask what you can do for your President..."

criticalthinking is a fake and a fraud.

  He is not even located in this country. How can he make pronouncements about conservatives or liberals. He don't live here. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Let Sarah Speak

Hey since Hussein is so interesed in what is FAIR, maybe   a member of the opposition should also be allowed to adress our kids.  Sarah would be a great start.

"Don't let the bastards grind you down."

Red

I can only imagine the

I can only imagine the hatred and rioting that would ensue if Palin was allowed to address every student attending public school in this nation.

I really truly hope that the next Republican president does this same exact thing, then we can come back to today and expose the leftist hypocrisy.

Yeah. Let's make Sarah Palin

Yeah. Let's make Sarah Palin their English teacher. That would be perfect. Don't we have a big enough problem with illiteracy in this county already? 

→ Jar-Jar

I know liberals feel the need to spotlight illiteracy as a problem, but it's really no secret liberals embrace, love, and promote illiteracy toward the end of a more compliant constituency.

It's really inane that you would point to the success of the liberals as a problem.  That success is most obvious in the inner cities under Democrat control.

Don't you dare foster this joke upon the poor and follow up with calling it a problem.  Be honest about it.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

Liberals' definition of 'literacy':

The ability to include the words 'conservative', 'racist', 'sexist', 'homophobe', 'chickenhawk', and 'Halliburton' in the same sentence.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

sorry tailgunner

but now that the B-HO admistration gives out the contracts 'Halliburton' must be removed from the list

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts 

odd

I recall hearing that some liberal parents kept their kids home on September 11, 2001 as President Bush was scheduled to visit their Florida school.

If this clown, Martin, was ANY kind of journalist, he would have known this due to prior research.

Well any kind of journalist except the affirmative action kind. 

Sam: "I hurt somebody's feelings once"

CNN, OBAMA and School

This is fabulous. They keep on berating VOTERS. Please keep this up. Never mind about dear leader imposing on little kids and teachers, just say arrogant stupid accusations to VOTERS. I love it. It will keep waking up people and get these idiots out of here in 2010. Obama.....the Lame Duck. hahahahahahaha

CNN, MSNBC and ABC are nothing more than leftwing circle-jerks.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

And you are the

And you are the self-anointed guru of absolute truth who only listens to people with whom you agree. Brilliant. 

Well how many times have I responded to YOU, pal? 3 or 4 times?

And no one can say that you and I are in bed in any kind of an ideological sense.

And I'm replying to your posts.

So that means I'm 'listening' to you, right?

So that means you're only posting more unthinking bullshit.

Try proofreading your posts through your mind next time.

Try and imagine how they'd sound to someone with a IQ higher than the temperature in your average refrigerator.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

~Here you go, Shy

Bueller?

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

there :)

Just to make you happy, I'll diligently follow you following me around, and keep my word. :)

Shy - PM

Shy - PM

TG

No cussing 'round these parts!

But I agree with everything you're saying about racist JR.

 

~Oooohhh...BURN

ROFL!

I am staggered by your forcefulness, sir. Positively parted his hair. I'm sure he won't be able to sit down for a week.

:-p

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

Well, I can't edit it NOW.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

~Don'tcha hate it when that happens?

My fave is when someone huffily replies to your post and demands you change it. LOL

Thanks, TG. If I'd thought to make a bet with Shy you would've won it for me just now.

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

the transcript above must be incomplete

I don't think that Roland Martin has ever been in front of a camera where he did not whine about whitey being "racist". That's pretty much been the basis of his entire career. Heaven knows his career is not based on actual intelligence.

In fact, if memory serves he was one of the reverse-racists who fanned out to every talk show in the country right after Obama lost New Hampshire. They all started proclaiming that Obama's loss was tied to "racism". That's when Hillary's defeat was sealed.

And, of course, there are no

And, of course, there are no racists here, are there. 

A sustained campaign

A sustained campaign of calling conservative posters racists, because they disagree with every aspect of Obama's politicies, ideology and thinking, will get your account discontinued on Newsbusters.

"Ask not what you can do for your country; ask what you can do for your President..."

As soon as those people stop

As soon as those people stop acting like racists, others will stop calling them racists. 

Yes, and it's the racists

Yes, and it's the racists who are hovering over your house with the silent black helicoptors. Time to put on the tin foil hat again so the racists can't read your thoughts!  Hurry, before they take over the world! 

JRJ08, Care to provide

JRJ08,

Care to provide some actual links to racist comments made by people on this website?

I'll wait.

hydro--

Listen for the crickets chirping...

Kat, It seems some of our

Kat,

It seems some of our resident dissidents (first Sterling and now this guy) have the uncanny ability to suddenly have other things to do when they can't actually support their arguments.

It's almost like a supper power.

do we ever see them at the same time?

hmmmm... 

___________________________________________
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.  ~Thomas Jefferson

Meanwhile, the next time a

Meanwhile, the next time a Seejay, or a seeno53 shows up,and we're trying to get real bigots banned, Jr. will be nowhere-to-be-found

Well Free, I'm sure he'll

Well Free,

I'm sure he'll say that's all just an act.

And then provide absolutely no argument to support what he just said.

Amazing isn't it? It's like

Amazing isn't it? It's like they just vanish into thin air...or quickly log off. ;-)

He probably ran off to try

He probably ran off to try and google for bigoted comments on NB . . .

Or ran back to HuffPoo for more talking points.

 

"They've refutted everything I say!  Now what?"

If a person uses race to attack or defend a point...

...that person is a RACIST.

If the shoe fits, pal, wear it.

(But take that foot out of your mouth first.)

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

"as soon as those people

"as soon as those people stop acting like racists....."

Please explain how "those people" are acting like racists.  And tell us who "those people" are.  (This should be good.)

JRJ:

 Let's talk about your favorite topic: RACISM.

Democratic Senator Robert Byrd was Senate Majority Leader for ten years.

Byrd is the longest serving Senator. He is now President pro tem of the Senate.

Byrd was an OFFICER in the KKK for years.

 He has written disgusting comments on the subject of desegregation in the US military:

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.html

Byrd wrote a letter to a senior KKK officer, five years AFTER he claimed he 'left' the Klan saying:

"The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."

http://www.pulitzer.org/archives/6655

On March 4, 2001, Byrd repeatedly used the word 'N***er' during a Fox News interview with Tony Snow.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/03/04/byrd.slur/

It's a matter of public record that Senator Byrd is a confirmed racist (the KKK, apparently, is also 'virulently anti-Catholic').

Sen Byrd was an officer in a domestic terrorist group founded for the express purpose of terrorizing, murdering, disarming and disenfranchising African-Americans in the south and thereby keeping them 'on the plantation'.

He has written in the vilest terms of 'race mongrels' and 'throwbacks' and even as late as 2001 has used the 'N-word'.

But Senator Robert K Byrd is, and has always been an honored and respected member of the Democrat Party.

Now if you're looking for 'racists', pal, and if you have an ounce of intellectual honesty in you, you're going to condemn Byrd as a RACIST and Democrats as the party of RACISM.

I'm waiting for you to defend Democrats and Sen. Byrd.

Are you going to try to excuse, explain or justify Democrats harboring, honoring and electing a KKK OFFICER as their Majority Leader for a decade?

This oughta be good.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

I think I remember...

...seeing Roland Martin's head barreling toward the number ten pin last time I went bowling. (rim shot)

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

jdly......I got a link for that.......

Here you go........   http://www.instantrimshot.com/

"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"

Cicero

the truth is

We are not against a president giving a speech to our children.  it is the White House arrogance that they can also suggest a curriculum to go along with it.

It is not the Government who is to teach our kids or the POTUS.  Government run public schools are to have teachers who teach balanced non political biased curriculum.  by having the White House make and suggest their curriculum is arrogance.

Are they saying our teachers don't have enough smarts to ask questions to the students and to balance out any bias? If the POTUS and his staff have their way they will do all the teaching and the teachers can just babysit.

"A man who doesn't borrow from the brains of others proves he has no brains of his own."  CH Spurgeon

→ Teachable moment

I saw this as an opportunity to educate my grandkids.

Whatever the President says over the monitor will make it to Youtube.

Perfect opportunity for me to explain what the address was all about.

I'm OK with the address.

Of course our Independent School System has decided against carrying the address.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

This could be a teachable

This could be a teachable moment between grandparents and grandchildren. Good point.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

oops!

slow connection.  it must be the POTUS controling the INternet speed.

Mr Greer Missed a Great Opportunity

Martin: "...You know, people who are bringing their ideology who are saying, I don’t want my child listening to this liberal Democratic president."

Yes Mr. Martin. Parents DO have a right and an obligation to decide what their children are taught! This ISN'T Nazzi Germany!

Well, it sure sounds like

Well, it sure sounds like "Nazzi Germany" around here. Never, in the history of this country, have people been so bellicose and belligerent about a President speaking to school children about studying hard. 

If we're going to throw around words like 'illiterate'...

...and 'Nazi'....it might help if the one throwing them around would learn how to spel them.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

BMOC

Lighten up Tailrunner. That was a slip of the finger on the "Nazzi". I don't know where you're coming from on the "illiterate"? Perhaps you can find a place spell checking somewhere else.

That was for JRJ.

I didn't see what you had posted.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

*LOL*.....

Well, you cretin, never in the history of this country has there ever been such a flaming rectum like this president....notice too, moron, I didn't say flaming black president, but rather just a  common flamer......

Time for you to play your asinine race card here, jerkoff.....

C'mon...lets hear it....

Oh BTW...how much to cross over YOUR bridge, Troll???

              

                      I have just one question about this speech. Why just the children? Shouldn't everyone be included in words of the ONE? I kinda feel slighted.    NOT!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

Lol jessie... If O could

Lol jessie...

If O could make it mandatory for all to be required as he wished, he would.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Don't worry about it. It

Don't worry about it. It would probably all go over your head anyway. 

JR--

"Don't worry about it. It would probably all go over your head anyway."

And who says liberals are elitists?

One Bad Do

I want to know who cuts Martin's hair?

Martin: "You know, people

Martin: "You know, people who are bringing their ideology who are saying, I
don’t want my child listening to this liberal Democratic president"

He's absolutely wrong, at least if talking to me.  I hope he's absolutely wrong with 100% of people skeptical about this Obama speech.

For me, it doesn't matter who the president is.  If teachers are being given a curriculum which includes having student ask themselves what they can do to help the president, and things like that, I don't care WHO is president.

Watching the astronomical spending, auto takovers, etc etc etc that are going on right now, I hope and pray that everyone who sees this crap for the CRAP that it is learns a huge lesson from it, and that lesson is............REGARDLESS of who is president, of which party is in the presidency, the dissent that is taking place all across this nation right now, better take place no matter WHO is president, if this is how they act.  I hope that the Obama madness is showing people that every president needs to answer to the Constitution.  This dissent cannot stop with this president.  It MUST continue.  We MUST all learn a valuable lesson from this boob of a president, and that is, we defend our Constitution first and foremost, no matter who is president.  And if a so-called conservative, then so be it, that person needs to be held just as accountable for unConstitutionality.

I don't care one iota what the Obama-worshiping, Obama foot-kissin, fascist defending, socialism loving, social justice supporting Martin says.

Social Justice Sliding Scal

...social justice supporting Martin says.

The dishonesty of  the term "social justice" is there's no definable end game where the battle for it can be claimed to have been won. It is an ever-evolving definition that is purposely open-ended so that the quest's end can never be reached.

Wrong, the final goal of

Wrong, the final goal of "social justice" is a communist dictatorship.

I always find it ironic that

I always find it ironic that 'social justice' is in its purest form, complete injustice, tyranny.

Oh, come on! "For me, it

Oh, come on! "For me, it doesn't matter who the president is..."? Give me a break. If this was a white president, you wouldn't even be visiting this forum, much making these kinds of comments and you know it. The notion that there is some political agenda to Obama's speech to school kids and that the "curriculum" is anything but a lesson in civics and participatory democracy is motivated by one thing – you can't stomach the idea of a black man in authority speaking to your kids about anything, especially a black who is sitting in the White House. Man-up and admit it. 

Encino Johnny, One Trick Pony, plays race card #198

Now we hate ANY black man in authority, not just Obama. I'm guessing that would include cops, school principals, teachers, doctors, etc.

So Sayeth Encino Johnny.

In your case, I would say

In your case, I would say that is probably true. 

probably true? that's the best you can do?

I think you're "probably" a troll.

 

In this forum, I wear that

In this forum, I wear that tag as badge of honor. 

You probably say the same

You probably say the same thing when confronted with party pictures of yourself wearing a lampshade, or BVDs . . . 

I think he's 'probably' a snivelling little brat...

...who's completely lost in a forum with his betters without his Marxist professor standing over his shoulder telling him what to say.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

How Your School Responds May Tell Parents Something Important

While I oppose the President wasting valuable instruction time speaking to the public schoolchildren of America, there might be a silver-lining if he did so.  Schools that go all out to have students view his rah-rah speech and follow up with the activities proposed by the Department of Education have, in my mind, failed a kind of liberal/progressive "stress-test.”  Parents will then know if there is a serious progressive infestation in the local school and can take corrective action.  Parents can then re-double their efforts counter the progressive message and underscore with their children important traditional American values: Our warriors are people of honor, ethical business people are role models, people of faith are worthy of respect.  And by the same token, looters, moochers and professional “victims” we find in our society are not people to emulate.

The "C" in CNN can mean many things...

Castro, Communist, Chicken Noodle....

 

Chicken Noodle Network.  I

Chicken Noodle Network.  I like it.

              

                 So, if they can't decieve the parents, they go after the children. Didn't the nazis do the same thing? Look how well that worked out.........                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          

We are NOT insane!

What a typical liberal response to conservatives.  Sure, Presidents have been in the classroom before.  GW Bush was reading in a classroom on 9/11/01.  However, this was a one-on-one situation, and there was NO CURRICULUM OR LESSON PLAN INVOLVED!   If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck - it's indoctrination!  I'm so glad my kids are all grown and in college.  I pity parents today - public schools don't teach anymore.  They indoctrinate.  It's all self-esteem garbage and political correctness.  God help our country.

I would have to agree with

I would have to agree with you there. GW Bush sure wasn't in that classroom to teach anybody anything. He even had the reading book in his hands upside down. Of course, his appearance was cut short by the news of the attacks, so I don't think anybody can say what might have been said in that classroom later on. You forget that a lot of kids are hearing about the economic crisis, the wars and global warming, and all that has an impact on their psyche. How could it possibly be a bad idea for them to get encouragement from the President of the United States? What idiot would be against that, unless they had some kind of problem with a black man in authority talking to their kids? 

JRJ08,  He even had

JRJ08, 

He even had the reading book in his hands upside down.

You sure about that?

That fact that you would try to push such an easily debunked lie on this site show what a disingenuous individual you are.

That and the fact that rather than actually trying to argue your points, you simply accuse folks of being racists.

Here's a clue for you JRJ08 - the adults on this site like to engage in actual arguments. That's where you try to support an assertion with facts, examples and/or a series of statements that follow the general tenants of informal logic.

If that's too much for you to get your head around, maybe you should stick with trying to color within the lines.

Your link debunks nothing.

Your link debunks nothing. It just throws out a bunch of lame explanations for why Bush might be holding the book upside down. It also says there is "evidence that image has been digitally manipulated", then provides zero support for that theory. If you are an "actual adult", use something factual in your comments other than posting someone else's opinions and presenting them as facts. Bush was holding the book upside down because he wasn't paying attention to what he doing. And he continued not to pay attention for 7 more minutes after having been informed that we were "under attack". 

JRJ08, And the actual

JRJ08,

And the actual photo from the Associated Press which the doctored photo was based on - you know, the one in the middle of that linked page - doesn't do anything for ya?

Care to explain that one, Einstein?

Would it have made you feel

Would it have made you feel better if he had jumped up and yelled, "Oh, my God...a major catastrophe!" in front of the children and scared them to death? 

JRJ08, Oh, in

JRJ08,

Oh, in addition.

According to that linked site, the photo shoot didn't happen on 9/11. So unless you can refute that - you know, with some actual references - no, he didn't continue to "not pay attention for 7 more minutes after having been informed that we were "under attack"".

Exactly how much BS can you pack into a single post?

As an aside - why put "under attack" in quotes? I'm pretty sure I already know the answer, but I'd like to hear your explanation.

hydro - You bring up a good

hydro - You bring up a good point.

Jr is able to pack more BS into a single post than seemingly any other Troll.

lol

yes, it was photoshopped.  Stretched it all to heck filling the back cover.   The blur tool was used as well.  Probably to cover the worst of the hacked fragments and smooth out the jpg compression artifacts.  Its really not a bad edit but they didn't take into account the pic does not cover the entire cover and Ms. Cheney's back is to the binding on the rest of the identical books in the picture.

And I think JRJ is confusing this book with the "The Pet Goat" book.

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katainkent, Yea, I think

katainkent,

Yea, I think JRJ is just plain confused in general.

And I'm sure he'll find some way to accuse me of racism for having said that.

JR

Stop hating on Bush because he's white. Racist. 

 

I don't hate Bush. Voted for

I don't hate Bush. Voted for him 2000. By 2004, I had concluded like most people that he was a moron. I feel sympathy for the guy. He's going down in history as the worst president we ever had. 

I guess you've never heard

I guess you've never heard of Fillmore, Grant, or Carter.

Free Stinker, He hasn't

Free Stinker,

He hasn't gotten to them in his social studies class yet.

Free

He's probably heard of Clinton and Obama.

 

LOL

LOL

Yeah, yeah, we've heard this schlock before.

I was born and raised a Republican, helped Abe Lincoln write the Gettysburg Address, marched with Martin Luther King, and voted for every Republican President for the last hundred years...

...BUT...

I think Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes.

I think we should close Gitmo and send all those poor detainees only to 'red' states.

I think Iran REALLY wants peaceful nuclear power.

The world will end in 11 months, 12 days and 6 hours unless we destroy our own manufacturing capacity while allowing China and India to pollute unrestricted.

Obama's health care plan WILL NEVER need rationing.

(Even if rationing is necessary, Obama promises two things: One, that no 'undocumented immigrant' will EVER be denied medical treatment of ANY kind...and two: No woman shall EVER be denied an ABORTION.)

You see, pal, folks like you are called 'seminar posters'.

That's Rush Limbaugh's term. It refers to liberals who infest conservative forums, pretend to be conservatives, then use that 'cred' to push liberal talking points.

Like 'George Bush's going down in history as the worst President we've ever had'.

And we can spot 'em a mile away.

So you can just run along home, pal, Mommy Huffington's got dinner on the table.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.

Keep insulting the voters, Martin.

Real smart.  Yet another self-loathing, self-destructive liberal.  Such a slow way to commit political suicide.  On the other hand, they do seem to be inventing more expedient means of self-destruction recently.

 

"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington

Exactly how is Roland Martin

Exactly how is Roland Martin "self-loathing" and "self-destructive"? You think, because he's saying things you don't agree with that he's committing political suicide? You have a rather grandiose opinion of your point of view. 

Stroking yourself while baiting NBr's does nothing for me,

little adolescent.  Move on to others who will bite (hard, I hope) 

 

"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington

Well, pal, lots of people in this country have kids.

That's why they're called P-A-R-E-N-T-S.

And a lot of these P-A-R-E-N-T-S go to the polls every 2-4 years and VOTE.

That's why they're called V-O-T-E-R-S, pal.

And when some demonstrated Democrat HACK calls those same V-O-T-E-R-S 'insane' and 'childish' it doesn't HELP the Democrat Party.

Mainly when many of those same Democrat P-A-R-E-N-T-S don't want THEIR kids forcefed a diet of 'Sayings from Chairman Maobama' either.

That's 'self-destructive'. That's 'political suicide'.

So go ahead, Martin. Keep sending us more V-O-T-E-R-S.

We won't attack them or insult them like you and every other liberal hack.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.