ABC News anchor Chris Cuomo conducted a hostile interview of RNC Chairman Michael Steele on Monday’s Good Morning America. Noting Steele hadn't used the term “death panel,” Cuomo asked if it was "a sign of positive progress." He also wondered why Steele wasn't bashing insurance companies, since when there is "excess in the system, it always comes back to the insurance companies."
The GMA anchor interviewed the RNC chairman 15 minutes into the 7 am hour. He zeroed in on Steele’s op-ed plugging a “Seniors’ Health Care Bill of Rights" which ran in the Washington Post on Monday. After Steele first summarized what was in the proposal, Cuomo brought up the hyped “death panel” term, which is a central part of the debate over ObamaCare:
“Now Mr. Steele, here in this health care bill of rights -- very interesting what is not here, the word ‘death panel’ is not anywhere in here. Is this a sign of positive progress, that we’re not going to talk about death panels anymore as a scare tactic?”
The RNC chairman defended that the term came from the public’s reaction to the proposed health care legislation in Congress, and added that the federal government shouldn’t ration health care for seniors. Cuomo followed up on something else that he found awry with the Republican proposal, hinting that insurance companies are always to blame for making excessive profits:
“Something else that’s not in here, Mr. Steele, is there’s no talk of the insurance companies. You know, when you talk about denial of care, or where that money is in excess in the system, it always comes back to the insurance companies, but nothing here.”
Cuomo made it clear in his final question to Steele that he desired the swift passage of a health care “reform” package: “So where do you see, in terms of a time line, of getting this done? When do you think that you and I sit here on Good Morning America celebrating that there’s a reform bill?” Would Cuomo ask a DNC chairman what he would be doing to make sure a Republican president could pass a tax cut?
The full transcript of the Cuomo’s interview of Michael Steele from Monday’s Good Morning America:
CHRIS CUOMO: Certainly, the [health care] debate goes on, so let’s bring in from Washington- meeting us here on Good Morning America, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, Mr. Michael Steele. Mr. Steele, pleasure to have you.
RNC CHAIRMAN MICHAEL STEELE: Hey, it’s great to be with you. Good morning.
CUOMO: So let’s make some news here. There’s all this talk about how we protect seniors. You have your own proposal. I have it in my hand right there- a seniors’ health care bill of rights. Tell me what this is.
STEELE: Well, this is- this really another way to make sure that we’re having the right debate here in America about what health care really means, and our seniors have really come under fire in the last few weeks, as more and more proposals look to be cutting benefits out of [the] Medicare program- some $500 billion the Democrats have proposed, and it’s made a lot of seniors nervous. And I thought it was important for- for us to send an important signal, that as we begin this debate in earnest this fall, that we keep in mind the greatest generation and make sure that, if at all cost, we do no harm to them and the benefits they’re currently receiving.
So we put together six points that- more philosophically, if nothing else- that we should be mindful of as we go through this debate. First off, we should protect the seniors’ ability to access health care, to give them that relationship that they need with their doctors, so they can get the care that they need. We want to make sure that we are not cutting the Medicare program. In fact, we should be focusing our efforts on reforming that, because we’ve all been told that this system is going to go bankrupt in just a few short years. So why we’re not focusing on this now as we talk about health care is one of those concerns that I have, along with a lot of other seniors.
CUOMO: Now Mr. Steele, here in this health care bill of rights- very interesting what is not here, the word ‘death panel’ is not anywhere in here. Is this a sign of positive progress, that we’re not going to talk about death panels anymore as a scare tactic?
STEELE: (Laughs) Well, first off, no one has talked about death panels as- as a scare tactic. You’ve got to understand the context of that term came from the people of this country. There wasn’t someone sitting in a shop making it up. People read a bill. They interpreted these panels that were being put in place as- of concern to them, and they addressed it in the best way that they could. My view of it is, I don’t need the government rationing health care. I don’t look at it so much as a death panel. Any time you get a body of individuals that go beyond me and my doctor who are going to make decisions about what kind of health care I get, that’s rationing of health care. So we want to make sure that seniors are protected from any rationing of their health care going forward, that that doctor/patient relationship- for them- is sacrosanct.
CUOMO: Something else that’s not in here, Mr. Steele, is there’s no talk of the insurance companies. You know, when you talk about denial of care, or where that money is in excess in the system, it always comes back to the insurance companies, but nothing here.
STEELE: Well, that’s-
CUOMO: Should we start talking more about them in this debate?
STEELE: No- absolutely, absolutely- I mean, it’s very much a part of this, when you talk about how ensuring seniors keep their current coverage, and you talk about end-of-life discussions. Those types of discussions involve insurance companies, and certainly, insurance companies are going to play a very big role going forward in this- in this health care debate, and they’re very much a part of making sure that seniors are not put on the short end of- of the stick when it comes to their health care.
CUOMO: So where do you see, in terms of a time line, of getting this done? When do you think that you and I sit here on Good Morning America celebrating that there’s a reform bill?
STEELE: Well, that’s a good question. It depends on what the President is prepared to do. If he’s going to continue down the road of- of greater government involvement- growing the size of government in this regard- it’s going to be a problem. There are a lot of Republicans and Democrats alike who are growing in their concern about the direction the President wants to take. So if the President comes back from vacation and he says that- you know, the idea of a big public plan, where there’s more emphasis on government control, as opposed to individual and doctor/patient relationships- I don’t see that plan getting done any time soon.
CUOMO All right. Mr. Steele- appreciate it very much.
STEELE: Thank you.
CUOMO: Thanks for coming on the show. Good luck with the health care bill of rights.
STEELE: All right.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Chris Cuomo - where's Andrew [Mr. Mortgage Crisis]
August 24, 2009 - 12:23 ET by Gary HallWell Matthew, it appears that Chris Cuomo is capable of conducting a hostile interview over such a nuanced item.
Would it not be more fun if Chris Cuomo took on his brother, former Clinton HUD Secretary, Andrew Cuomo. Oh goodness, lookie here - an obvious shot at a fun interview. There's a little something here which would interest about 300 million Americans:
TV morning news shows could be so much fun, if only they were interested in discussing the important news with the viewer.
(;~/ gary
Oh, you are so right Gary.
August 24, 2009 - 13:06 ET by d1carterOh, you are so right Gary. If only the MSM would look into Andrew and his buddies both during his time at HUD and then as the New York State Attorney General. This would be delicious. But....it will never happen. The MSM will never go after such a lib star. Just another reason why the MSM is dying before our very eyes.
what is this crap????
August 24, 2009 - 12:28 ET by candanceRepublicans are winning the elderly vote by offering a senior healthcare bill of rights?
Why do old people get their own bill of rights? Why is healthcare a right for the old but not the young???
And Steele is talking about how Medicare needs to be protected? Why are we protecting one bankrupt program in our effort to stop another program? I thought the conservative movement was all about privatizing more and phasing out government retirement.
So we're pandering to old people, and I get to pay the tab? How is that fair?????
Tell me again exactly why I'm supposed to be a Republican?
~This is such a joke
August 24, 2009 - 12:39 ET by choselife3xBeing Democrat Lite has just worked so well for the Republicans these last eight years, right?
I'm calling these jokers to tell them to grow a backbone and act like conservatives. 202.863.8500
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
unbelievable
August 24, 2009 - 12:59 ET by candanceI called my House critter (who happens to be Republican whip) and totally got the run around. First they didn't know anything about Steele's proposal, then offered to transfer me to a healthcare expert, then I got cut off, called them back, and was told to leave a voicemail because the healthcare expert was busy.
This is so not funny.
candance, You're right,
August 24, 2009 - 12:49 ET by Chris Normancandance,
You're right, but I think the Republicans are using a political tactic to split the seniors from the Democrats. I'm not saying I support this, because they're borrowing a page from the Democrats in regarding people as blocs - pitting them against each other - leading to legitimate objections like your's. I guess a little part of me likes the Democrats to have a taste of their own medicine, but in the long term, it's wrong.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
The democrats have the
August 24, 2009 - 12:54 ET by NonArabOmarThe democrats have the House and Senate.
The devil you know is better than the one you don't know. Medicare is a beast we all know.
You have 2 choices:
Keep a small tumor on your leg or exchange it for a 100 pound tumor in your head.
For a lot of people, universal government run healthcare would turn american bureaucracy into a 100 pound sentient tumor with tenticles that will pick up a shotgun and shoot you in the testicles.
While medicaire is a suspicious mole on your leg that could turn into skin cancer if not treated.
All conservatives better "defend" medicare. The liberals are in charge of government and maintaining the status quo is preferable than letting them plunge the country deeper into socialism.
Understand now? Status quo better than sinking deeper. Think about it? Democrats will only scrap medicare for seniors if they pass Medicare for all.
NO!!!
August 24, 2009 - 12:56 ET by candanceBy defending Medicare we lose all moral ground to complain about government intervention. I am not going to say that I love a small tumor and want to protect it, and then get shocked when my body grows another one.
This is insanity.
I disagree, can
August 24, 2009 - 13:15 ET by BlondeMedicare is a mandatory (if basically unconstitutional) program wherein 3.3% of all of your earnings (half paid by your employer, or all paid by you if self-employed) are deducted to provide you with Medicare "insurance" when you retire. Granted, it is a Ponzi scheme, like Social Security....but if you've paid into it your entire life...it's a fact.
Now, if the government would like to rescind Medicare, fine. Refund to me (and everyone else) that which has been paid in by me or my employer, at say 3% compound interest. Do the same for those who paid in and are now collecting, less whatever has been paid out on their account.
I hope he fails, too.
→ Right on, Blonde
August 24, 2009 - 13:19 ET by Cool ArrowI'll take a buyout, even at a discount at this point.
I can do a hell of a lot better with my investments than the Government ever could.
We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy
Blonde
August 24, 2009 - 13:19 ET by Conservative Voicereal Republicans would work to do just that, point out that Medicare and Social Security are ponzi schemes, and should be removed...as a matter of contracts, those on it should be allowed to keep it, but everyone else should get a refund...based on the table from chapter 11.
Chapter 11?
August 24, 2009 - 13:24 ET by BlondeObama's terms or regular terms, CV? Remember, he upde'd bankruptcy contract laws in the auto sector (how soon before there are court cases over that, eh?).
LOL you two....GMTA.
I hope he fails, too.
bill of rights
August 24, 2009 - 13:35 ET by Conservative VoiceBlonde, like you said, comparing Medicare to the Bill of Rights is insane. If Mike just said we are working to shore up Medicare instead of supporting ObamaCare, I wouldn't be as angry...frustrated sure, but not angry.
I am angry. We don't need Republicans making Socialism into Rights.
I understand all that
August 24, 2009 - 13:21 ET by candanceWhy isn't Steele out there saying we need to keep our current obligations and then work on phasing it out? Why isn't he telling old people, look this plan is going bankrupt and you don't want to trap your children in this prison?
It's one thing to agree that those who paid in deserve reimbursement. It's another to call it a bill of rights.
Besides, I'm paying in and I know DARN WELL there won't be jack left over to reimburse me. You are sentencing me and my friends to economic collapse.
~I know
August 24, 2009 - 13:25 ET by choselife3xI'll never see any of it. And calling it a "bill of rights" offends the hell out of me. We've already got one, thank you. Get the hell out of health care and deliver my mail.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Phasing it out how?
August 24, 2009 - 13:27 ET by BlondeCome on candance, think.
Granted, calling it a "Bill of Rights" is insane.
How do you think I feel? I'm the one who's in the squeeze. How do you plan to fund the "current obligations".
I hope he fails, too.
I don't know how to fund them
August 24, 2009 - 13:51 ET by candancebut I'm really getting tired of the answer being my bank account.
Join the club
August 24, 2009 - 13:59 ET by BlondeHowever....it's been my bank account for a very, very long time.
I hope he fails, too.
We should fund current
August 24, 2009 - 14:27 ET by Conservative VoiceWe should fund current obligations...congress has robbed the Soc Sec and Medicare trust funds, the money borrowed should be repaid.
Those who aren't on, should be given the opportunity to opt out. Otherwise when it hits the brick wall, and it will hit as all ponzi schemes have an endpoint, the collision won't be so devastating.
Give me Liberty or Give me Death
August 24, 2009 - 13:02 ET by Conservative VoiceGive me Liberty or Give me Death I guess doesn't apply to socialized medicine? Think about it, if the private citizen were allowed to set aside the amount they pay into medicare and social security, instead of giving it to the Federal Government to control, they would be better off.
thank you, CV
August 24, 2009 - 13:04 ET by candanceAll this talk about "defending the constitution" is a joke. It's more like give me liberty or give me a Senate seat.
Bill of Rights
August 24, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Conservative VoiceThis bill of rights just shows Republicans don't get it. Government I don't want Senior Healthcare Bill of Rights...we already have Patient Rights. We don't need a Right to Healthcare, it is not a Right!
And on that note, we don't need a Airlines bill of rights either. Its called when a business abuse their customers, they go out of business...we don't need congress to create a law when the unwritten law is already in effect.
All these bill of rights
August 24, 2009 - 13:00 ET by Conservative VoiceAll these bill of rights ends up watering down what rights mean.
If Republicans insist on
August 24, 2009 - 12:41 ET by Chris NormanIf Republicans insist on appearing on these kangaroo courts masquerading as interviews, they should all agree to begin each answer with, "Now______________. We all know you worship Barak Obama....
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
"Death Panel" is not a
August 24, 2009 - 12:51 ET by mattm"Death Panel" is not a term, it's a description.
These media propagandists know this, but that doesn't stop them from misleading their viewers by falsely accusing others of misleading the public.
matt -- don't worry.
August 24, 2009 - 13:12 ET by Jack Bauermatt -- don't worry. They're losing. Government groupie leftists can squeal all they like, but the phrase has entered the public consciousness.
They lost. We won. We phrased the debate. That's why they're hysterical.
August 24, 2009 - 13:34 ET by jessieHThis guy Cuomo needs to read the media's bill of rights. Maybe even read up on what a reporter & a journalist is supposed to do.
Maybe Cuomo needs to talk too
August 24, 2009 - 13:48 ET by Airforce_5_OJoe Lieberman about the bill.
Liberalism: The huanting feeling that someone, somewhere, can help themselves.
Af... I caught that
August 24, 2009 - 13:58 ET by bigtimerAf...
I caught that yesterday...talking heads like Chris aren't going to have him on...heck, they're hoping Alex Baldwin runs against him.
Personally, I want NO Bill to pass, the dems will use it forever to use incrementally to fulfill their agenda...and I am including Lieberman.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
No bill at all!
August 24, 2009 - 16:23 ET by iveseenitallRight on, BT. No bill is the answer. Unfortunately, after all is said and done this time around, the Dems will have their foot in the door. That's what they want. And I'm afraid they're going to get it.
Next up, a "compromise" on the illegals.
Sad.
P.S. The Cuomos - I lived in New York when daddy Mario was governor. That's a story in itself--what a crook!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
isia... Cap and Trade
August 24, 2009 - 16:24 ET by bigtimerisia...
Cap and Trade before Amnesty...last I heard that is the game plan.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT:
August 24, 2009 - 16:27 ET by iveseenitallRight you are. It'll never stop until ...
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
just saw on Glenn Beck
August 24, 2009 - 17:13 ET by candanceUnfunded liabilities currently stand at $200,000 per citizen.
Thanks a lot, Mike. You're telling people they have a constitutional right to sell me into economic slavery.
Suggestion for Mr.
August 25, 2009 - 08:59 ET by ReaverSuggestion for Mr. Steele-
CUOMO: Now Mr. Steele, here in this health care bill of rights- very interesting what is not here, the word ‘death panel’ is not anywhere in here. Is this a sign of positive progress, that we’re not going to talk about death panels anymore as a scare tactic?
STEELE: Would you like me to pencil it in, Chris? If you really want to see it in there.
These people need to be called out to their face.
"Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose head, John Conyers, says he doesn't understand it. It'll be passed by a Congress that has not read it, signed by a president who smokes, funded by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese, and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?" –Rush Limbaugh
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