CNN’s Sanjay Gupta filled in as host on Larry King Live on Wednesday, six days after ending his bid to be Obama's surgeon general. Despite his medical training, he did not see fit to correct former President Bill Clinton after he repeatedly referred to human embryos as not being fertilized.
During his initial question, Gupta referred to Clinton as “someone who studied this,” but after he made his erroneous assertion the first time, Gupta only asked if the former president had “any reservations” to stem cell research that would destroy human embryos. Clinton would go on to make this false characterization five more times in his answer to Gupta’s lone follow-up.
Gupta's interview with the former president was devoted mainly to health care reform. The brain surgeon brought up the issue of embryonic stem cell research after he observed that Clinton’s finger sometimes shook when he pointed it. When Clinton clarified that he had consulted with a doctor, who told him in wasn’t Parkinson’s Disease, Gupta asked the former president about President Obama’s decision to remove the limitations on federal funding for the embryo-killing research: “There was a federal -- an order today providing federal money for embryonic stem cell research. First of all, let me just ask you, as someone who studied this, is this going to always be as divisive an issue as it is now? Is this going to be the abortion of the next generation, or are people going to come around?”
Clinton emphasized the hype over embryonic stem cell research in his answer, and even used the Obama administration’s talking point about the issue of embryonic stem cell research being “too politicized:”
BILL CLINTON: I think -- the answer is I think that we’ll work it through. When it’s -- if it -- particularly, if it’s done right. If it’s obvious that we’re not taking embryos that can -- that under any conceivable scenario would be used for a process that would allow them to be fertilized and become little babies, and I think if it’s obvious that we’re not talking about some science fiction cloning of human beings, then I think the American people will support this. I think they’ll support it because we want to solve type 1 diabetes. We want to solve -- we want to find out about whether Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s can be reversed. We want a whole range of other things. And I think at some point, you know -- maybe it’s -- decades down the way -- if somebody severs an arm and you try to sew it back on, and you’re missing some component things, if you can figure out how to fill in the blanks, I think people would like that. So I think we'll just have to debate it as we go along. I think -- I was anxious for the president to do this and get this research going again --
GUPTA: Any reservations?
CLINTON: Well, my only -- I don’t know that I have any reservations, but I was -- he has apparently decided to leave to the relevant professional committees the definition of which frozen embryos would not be -- are basically going to be discarded, because they’re not going to be fertilized. I think the American people believe it’s a pro-life decision to use an embryo that’s frozen -- it’s never going to be fertilized for embryonic stem cell research, especially since now, notwithstanding some promising developments, most of the scientists in this field and the doctors will tell you they don’t know of any other source that’s as good as embryonic stem cells for all the various things that need to be researched. But those committees need to be really careful to make sure if they don’t want a big storm to be stirred up here, that any of the embryos that are used clearly have been placed beyond the pale of being fertilized before their use. There are plenty -- there are a large number of embryos that we know are never going to be fertilized, where the people who are in control of them have made that clear. That -- the research ought to be confined to those, and I think the committees will surely do that. But that I think is the only area of debate that I sort of saw.
I appreciated the fact that the president wants to send a strong signal that scientific research on everything from climate change to the genome to the embryonic stem cells was too politicized in the previous eight years, and he wants to put it back to science. I agree with that. But there are values involved that we all ought to feel free to discuss in all scientific research, and that is the one thing that --- I think these committees need to make it clear that they’re not going to fool with any embryos where there’s any possibility, even if it’s somewhat remote, that they could be fertilized and become human beings.
Gupta decided to end the interview with this extended answer from Clinton, and even went so far to say “some health seminar” in a complimentary fashion as they said their goodbyes, treating him as a true expert on the subject of health care. However, if he had truly “studied this,” as Gupta put it, Clinton would know that an embryo is a human in his or her first stage of development after fertilization.
It should be noted that Gupta had been named a “featured attendee” at the former president’s Clinton Global Initiative annual meeting in 2006. So it shouldn’t be a surprise that Gupta would be so passive to Clinton’s repeated error.
[H/t: Jill Stanek’s blog.]
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Surgeon General Gupta?
March 12, 2009 - 12:13 ET by allanfWe now know Gupta is a Democrat. Why would he correct one of his party leaders?
allanf... Exactly right.
March 12, 2009 - 13:55 ET by bigtimerallanf...
Exactly right.
I'm thinking...
March 12, 2009 - 12:20 ET by Texndoc"The brain surgeon brought up the issue of embryonic stem cell research after he observed that Clinton’s finger sometimes shook when he pointed it. When Clinton clarified that he had consulted with a doctor, who told him in wasn’t Parkinson’s Disease...."
I'm betting "fertilization" flew right over neurosurgeon Gupta because he's thinking "like hell it isn't Parkinson's".
If only the public knew
March 12, 2009 - 12:32 ET by KC MulvilleThere is scientific debate about the embryo, especially the changes that occur after implantation, that goes directly to the heart of the abortion debate. I'm guessing that implantation is what Clinton thinks he's referring to, but who knows? His record on abortion politics, such as his deceitful support of partial-birth abortion, shows that he's willing to say anything.
I imagine that this "they
March 12, 2009 - 12:33 ET by MrSnugglesI imagine that this "they aren't fertilized" lie will now suddenly be repeated over and over and over again by democrats and leftists in the media.
Of course. It will be
March 12, 2009 - 14:43 ET by motherbeltOf course. It will be repeated because that is how liberals spread their propaganda: by simply letting erroneous statements lie out there unchallenged.
It is inconceivable (and it does mean what I think it means) that Sanjay Gupta, MD, doesn't know the difference between an egg, which is where an embryo comes from, by virtue of fertilization. Therefore, his ignoring Clinton's gaffe can only be explained by his willingness to go along with and perpetuate the false claim.
Dr. Gupta was also negligent in letting this slide:
When Clinton clarified that he had consulted with a doctor, who
told him in wasn’t Parkinson’s Disease....
The NBD story about this interview has this quote from Clinton to Gupta:
Clinton told Gupta he was “quite concerned” when he noticed his hands were shaking sometimes Because if I had Parkinson’s, I wanted to know so I could prepare. And
I had it tested and the doctor said ‘no,’ he says it’s just a normal
aging phenomenon.”
Mr. Clinton, the medical community (other than Dr. Gupta) dare to contradict you. From the University of Maryland Medical Center website (emphasis mine):
Unfortunately, there is no diagnostic test that can confirm
Parkinson's disease. Laboratory testing of the blood of patients with
the symptoms typical of Parkinson's only rarely uncovers any
abnormality.
Electroencephalograms (EEGs) record some aspects of brain electrical
activity, but they are not effective in spotting Parkinson's.
The MRI and CAT scans of the brain produce remarkable and exquisite anatomic pictures.
The MRI and CAT scans of the brain of people with Parkinson's
disease appear normal. The brain of people with Parkinson's disease
appears normal.
The brain changes that create neurodegenerative diseases such as
Parkinson's are microscopic, on a chemical level, and are not revealed
by these scans.
Now I don't want to start a conspiracy theory, but...Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's started with a tiny twitch in his little finger.
Also, I am the same age as Bill Clinton. My hands and fingers are steady as
a rock. So are my husband's (same age). I personally think 60 is a
way too young to be getting tremors, but what do I know???
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
very interesting, mb - thanks!
March 12, 2009 - 15:24 ET by Cape ConservativeIt is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams
Bigtimer:Excellent
March 13, 2009 - 01:40 ET by stratmanBigtimer:
Excellent post. Diagnosis is still by a good medical history and physical examination (the cornerstones of all good medicine), tests to exclude other causes for symptoms, and positive response to treatment for Parkinson's.
I did not see the video of Clinton and Gupta. I have to wonder why Gupta mentioned BJ's tremor at all. Was it that obvious during the interview? Did Gupta go off the reservation (sorry, bad Indian joke) and bring it up on his own in order to further highlight a need for stem cell research, or, did Billy Joe Bob want Gupta to bring up his tremor so he could tell everyone it wasn't due to Parkinson's?
Without knowing anything more, the most likely reason for a tremor is Essential Tremor, though most anything is possible, including stroke, alcoholism, drug effect, heavy metal poisoning (a consideration since Hillary is his wife), or even a tremor caused by psychiatric issues. A short discussion can be found here - page 3 breaks down the main etiologies for tremor.
If Clinton did have Parkinson's Disease, some of the medications have been reported to cause a hypersexuality in very rare cases. If that happened, how would you know it was a side effect?
And all this time I thought Clinton suffered from Klüver-Bucy syndrome:
double
March 12, 2009 - 14:02 ET by motherbeltI didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
The world according to Bill.
March 12, 2009 - 12:38 ET by CobraMan"That depends on what your definition of "oocyte" is."
Hay, Bill, are you referring to the 7 million or so unfertilized "fetuses" that a female fetus produces long before birth?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Dirty Old Man!
March 12, 2009 - 12:54 ET by CobraMan"There are plenty -- there are a large number of embryos that we know are never going to be fertilized"
Bill, I knew you like them young, but DUDE! Show some restraint!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Sycophant
March 12, 2009 - 13:06 ET by Lakewood BobGupta is just a good blind democrat kool-aid drinker. His emotional commitment to the democrat ideology will always overrule any knowledge of the facts. He is simply a sycophant and a myrmidon of the left.
BTW, all "liberals" are intellectually shallow and historically ignorant! They are, in effect, "Liliputians."
It's not Parkinson's
March 12, 2009 - 13:07 ET by shirtsbyericIt's alcoholism. Bill Clinton is an alcoholic. Dick Moris said he drank whiskey in the White House everynight but all we heard about was how Bush was an alcoholic even though he hasn't had a drink since 1979. Just look at Bill's gin blossom nose.
While I am sure to take
March 12, 2009 - 13:27 ET by dborschjr68While I am sure to take heat for this as I am being very condescending here: Honestly, if I had to sleep with Hillary every night, I'd be hitting the bottle, too. First thing, as soon as I woke up, it'd be me and some George Dickel facing the day.
F**K Socialism.
Now - on the other side of this issue, I would have
March 12, 2009 - 13:42 ET by Cape Conservativeto resort to drink were I in HRC's shoes ;-)
If ever two losers deserved one another, these two take first prize! From all I've read, they both like to cozy up with the booze - confirmed by our comments, dbs ;-)
It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams
Shirts..I was thinking the
March 12, 2009 - 16:33 ET by celatorShirts..I was thinking the same thing... the DT's. We can't know for sure, but his lifestyle, complexion, skin condition, and odd behavior in the recent past could point to that.
The Government cannot give to anybody anything which the government does not first take from somebody else. Dr. Adrian Rogers
Can we honestly expect any
March 12, 2009 - 13:24 ET by dborschjr68Can we honestly expect any sort of true medical knowledge from the man who said, "I did not have sex with that woman"?
Again, awesome media coverage from CNN. Yet another milestone in higher journalism. Love those guys, dontcha know.
F**K Socialism.
It only makes sense.
March 12, 2009 - 13:46 ET by Mike BrattonIf Bill doesn't know where babies come from, then how should we expect him to know what a baby is?
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
Nevermind medical
March 12, 2009 - 14:25 ET by motherbeltNevermind medical knowledge, how about trusting the truth of "I do not have Parkinson's Disease" alongside "I did not have sexual relations with that woman...." ?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
You are right on track today, mb ;-)
March 12, 2009 - 15:25 ET by Cape ConservativeIt is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams
i'm SURE...
March 12, 2009 - 13:47 ET by AJBOh, I'm SURE he's been involved in the process of fertilizing an ovum THOUSANDS of times... from experience alone, he should have that one down pat (or mary, or monica, or steve!!)
Holy Moly
March 12, 2009 - 13:56 ET by MOONSTRUCKdo any of these people EVER speak the truth?? no
Say anything, do anything. It just does not matter. I am so very happy I am not one of them. So happy I have a brain, and can think and speak for myself.
2008-2012 motto:
That Doesn't matter. HaHa! Suckas!
Of course, it is CNN
March 12, 2009 - 13:56 ET by Franklins_LockeFirst, I would not be surprised that Gupta did not know the difference. Second, this is just as intellectually dishonest as Pelosi say natural gas was not a fossil fuel. Clinton should know better but is so wrapped up in his politics that the truth is irrelevant.
http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/
Gupta and Clinton
March 12, 2009 - 13:58 ET by GoodieWill both be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize...what courage and clarity they bring to the subject!
O's last day 1-20-2013
So Clinton doesn't know is
March 12, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Jack BauerSo Clinton doesn't know his ass from his embryo.
Didn't he used to be the "smartest" President ever?
Well that's what Democrats used to claim-- till this Teleprompter-in-Chief turned up like a bad penny.
Thanks to Obama and his Congress... DUMB IS THE NEW SMART.
Does ODing on Viagra make the finger tremble?
Funny you should ask -
March 13, 2009 - 01:36 ET by stratmanFunny you should ask - YES.
(See here, page 3, under heading called "Nervous".)
Ominously, Viagra use may increase one's risk for heart attacks and strokes. It also may RARELY cause sudden onset blindness. Ironically, isn't that what parents would warn children if involved in "self-abuse"?
Speaking of word choice, another side effect is listed as "bone pain".
***Talk with your physician before trying Viagra to determine if it is safe and appropriate for you.***
More to the point...
March 12, 2009 - 14:15 ET by moderncommentaries83More to the point, why would a pro-abortion Democrat ever acknowledge the humanity of an embryo?
All of this ESCR talk hinges on the left's love of abortion. They have to maintain the notion that an embroy is not an unborn baby is not a human being. Once you acknowledge that a fertilized egg - an embryo - is a human being, then it chips away at the (twisted) logic behind the abortion-rights movement.
The more they pound the lie that an embryo isn't human, the more they believe (and hope others will believe) that it's true.
So you're right in saying Gupta's not questioning the leaders of the Democratic party. But they're collectively working toward maintaining a Culture of Death.
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
Thanks Matthew
March 12, 2009 - 14:34 ET by AugustineI read this last night at a Catholic blog and was flabbergasted especially with the confusion by so many people who have been lead astray in regards to the destruction of human embryos for stem cell research. For Gupta to sit back and allow Pres. Clinton to repeat the same error over and over again is downright fraudulent journalism. Imagine if a Republican had said this. Lord have mercy.
Looks like there is such
March 12, 2009 - 14:44 ET by chessplayerLooks like there is such a thing as an unfertilized embryo. Don`t know if there are any human ones, though.
"Researchers develop primate stem cells from unfertilized embryo"
http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2002/A/20027165.html
Is there any wonder that
March 12, 2009 - 19:55 ET by jdhawkIs there any wonder that clintoon doesn't understand that an embryo is a fertilized egg?
After all this was the guy that involved a cigar in his attempt "not" to have a Lewinsky.
Joke
March 12, 2009 - 22:16 ET by slickwillie2001Which reminds me, someone this week said "President Obama signed his stimulus package today at the same desk where President Clinton got his package stimulated".
Perhaps Gupta failed because . . .
March 14, 2009 - 00:30 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . .he didn't know?