Updated at bottom of post (Jan. 7, 2009)
CNN sided against the expansion of health care workers’ right to not participate in controversial medical procedures like abortion and in-vitro fertilization during a report on Friday’s Newsroom program by including only one pro-life voice amongst several statements and clips from pro-abortion groups. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, the chief medical correspondent for the network, also criticized this expansion, which was recently made by the Department of Health and Human Services: “...[I]t’s a bit of a slippery slope. I mean, when you say, I’m not going to provide care based on my own conscience...you can imagine that opens up a whole wide range of possibilities, in terms of what is going to be treated and what is not.”
Gupta began the report, which aired 22 minutes into the 10 am Eastern hour of the CNN program, by immediately trying to cast doubt on the need for the new regulation from the HHS, which protects the right of conscience of health care workers, so they aren’t forced to participate in any procedure they object to: “There were laws already in the books, but these laws are stronger, and they involved all health care workers -- so doctors, nurses, anybody who works in a hospital can decide that they can refuse care -- they can refuse access, consults, referrals, and without any discrimination against them. And they can do this based on their conscience.”
The medical correspondent then introduced the first sound bite, which came from an OB-GYN who was the only person or organization in the entire report who supported the new regulation. She was immediately contradicted by the prestigious AMA:
GUPTA (voice-over): Twenty years ago, when Dr. Sandy Christiansen went to medical school, she never thought she’d face discrimination. Yet, because of her anti-abortion views, she said she was repeatedly denied the opportunity to perform medical procedures that another intern was allowed to do. When she pressed her superiors, she didn’t like the response.
DR. SANDY CHRISTIANSEN, OBSTETRICAN/GYNECOLOGIST: She’s doing that because she’s been working hard at the abortions and you haven’t, and so she gets that perk.
GUPTA: Even after she got her license, Christiansen said she felt unaccepted by some of her peers because of her views. Now a medical consultant for a pregnancy resource center in Frederick, Maryland, she has never performed an abortion and refuses to refer patients to abortion clinics.
CHRISTIANSEN: Just in the same way that my conscience would not allow me to perform an abortion, I wouldn't ask another colleague to do that.
GUPTA: But many health care organizations, including the American Medical Association, believe health care providers like Christiansen have an obligation to their patients, to advise of them the options, despite their own beliefs. Now, a new regulation introduced by the Department of Health and Human Services would support Christiansen’s right to refuse referrals and withhold information that goes against her own beliefs. Critics argue there are already laws on the books protecting health care professionals when it comes to refusing care for personal reasons. The new proposal goes further by making it so that all health care workers from doctors to janitors who work in the hospitals may refuse to provide services, information, or advice to patient if they are morally against it. Critics fear that could mean anything from fertility treatments to abortion to stem cell research.
Gupta then played a sound bite from Adam Sonfield, a senior public policy associate for the Guttmacher Institute. Gupta did not mention either the Institute’s pro-abortion stance, or its founding by Planned Parenthood. Sonfield warned that the regulation “explicitly allows that doctor or that nurse or any other health care provider to withhold information that would be relevant to a patient trying to make a medical decision.”
Doctor Gupta then continued by returning to the tactic of trying to cast doubt on the need for the regulation:
GUPTA: Organizations like the American Nurses Association already have a code of ethics for their members. They believe nurses and other health care professionals are there for the patient, and it’s the patient’s prerogative to make decisions on care based on their own beliefs, not the health care providers.MARY JEAN SCHUMANN, AMERICAN NURSES ASSOCIATION: We don’t go to school to learn how to be -- make god-like decisions. That’s not what it's about for us. It’s about trying to get to where the patient is and helping the patient make their own decisions. You know, nobody appointed us the ultimate person to pass judgment.
GUPTA: But Christiansen said she is not playing God, just exercising her code of ethics, along with the Hippocratic oath.
CHRISTIANSEN: Why would you want to eliminate people, you know, who have, you know, these certain held beliefs in conscience from a particular field of practice. Frankly, all the more reason to hold them there.
Despite the apparent prestige of the American Nurses Association, Gupta left out how the organization was an active supporter of pro-abortion candidate Barack Obama during the presidential campaign.
The CNN medical correspondent concluded the report by making his “slippery slope” argument:
GUPTA (on-camera): As you might imagine, this is controversial, and some of the critics are already starting to speak up. Senator [John] Kerry said, look, what were describing here could interfere with family planning, it could interfere with end-of-life issues, and he’s calling on the incoming administration to reverse that. But that, you know, that takes time. This is all a process here, as you might imagine.HOLMES: So you know that everybody out there listening to this is thinking, well what am I supposed to do if I walk in [and] my doctor says he won’t give me care, or a nurse says it. What can a patient do?
GUPTA: You know, it’s really complicated. If you live in a city like Atlanta or New York, there’s a lot of hospitals -- there’s a lot of potential options. But, you know, it’s a good point. If you live in a rural area, you don't have as many options. So it becomes difficult. And also, it’s a bit of a slippery slope. I mean, when you say, I’m not going to provide care based on my own conscience -- you know, my own conscience, I mean, you can imagine that opens up a whole wide range of possibilities, in terms of what is going to be treated and what is not.
HOLMES: Last thing here -- we got to let you go, but still, you said it would take a while for a new administration when they come in to change the rule. Do we have any indication yet? Has there been any word -- anything on the record yet from Obama about this -- just checking -- that you know of?
GUPTA: No -- you know, the thing that we heard from Senator Kerry -- we haven’t heard specifically, at least officially, but again, it takes a while. So it wouldn’t be, you know, right in January. It would take several months, if not a year, for something like this to be overturned.
HOLMES: All right. Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Interesting.
Update (Managing Editor Ken Shepherd | Jan. 7, 2009): Steven Ertelt of LifeNews.com cited this post in a Jan. 7, 2009, story about President-elect Barack Obama reportedly planning to name Gupta to serve as U.S. Surgeon General.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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You can not force someone to do something immoral
December 19, 2008 - 17:50 ET by c5thenRegardless of what YOU think, the other person has the RIGHT to their own opinions and beliefs. What happens in Washington and Oregon when a patient want's to commit suicide? Will a doctor who believes that killing a patient is wrong and against the hypocratic oath be forced to kill his patient? The slippery slope is when we try and force workers to ignore their own conscience.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
Alan Keyes / Sarah Palin - 2012
Good point, it would seem
December 19, 2008 - 17:57 ET by BuffNBoneGood point, it would seem to make them hypocrites if they have taken the Hippocratic Oath.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Hippocratic Oath
December 19, 2008 - 22:53 ET by tribchettokjok
Regarding the comment about the Hippocratic Oath.
Most doctors go into medicine to take care of sick patients. Pregnancy is not a disease. Urgent abortions are almost non-existent and very few doctors would deny care for an unstable patient even if that meant that the fetus would not survive.
Would you be so kind as to look up what the Hippocratic Oath really says? The one that stood for 2300 plus years condemns abortion (as well as euthanasia). When it was changed a few decades ago some continued to call it the Hippocratic Oath, some call it by another name. So who exactly is the hypocrite?
Ridiculous!
December 19, 2008 - 17:54 ET by iveseenitallI guess it was alright that Hitler's men were "just following orders". After all, what kind of a "slippery slope" would it have been had they been allowed to refuse to walk the Jews into those gas chambers?
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberals"
If I were in the medical field
December 19, 2008 - 18:04 ET by littlemissmuffinIf I were in the medical field, and I was told I had to perform an abortion, I would walk out right then. Job be darned!
"If we conservatives moved to those seven non-existent States, the government couldn’t find us and tax us to death!"
New Name
December 19, 2008 - 18:10 ET by iveseenitallBarry's new middle name--- "baby killer"
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Maybe what is needed...
December 19, 2008 - 18:29 ET by 3strikesis another disclosure form similar to the Privacy Act form filled out everytime someone goes to see a new doctor.
I completely agree with a health care professional refusing service based on moral differences, but those differences should be spelled out completely for the patient at the beginning of the process. And in the case of nurses andother medical personnel working for a doctor, certain moral objections shouldn't be a part of the hiring process, but should be addressed and annotated during the orientation process.
This doesn't really seem to be that difficult of an issue, it's just another attempt by left wingers to force everyone in a particular job field to conform to left wing doctrine.
What makes this hilarious is that these people are trying to force their beliefs on all medical professionals by saying that medical professionals shouldn't be forcing their beliefs onto the patients.
baby murderers
December 19, 2008 - 18:32 ET by m1xramThey want you to be an accessory to their murder. Of course this is natural because people who murder children will do and say anything. Look at their positions.. they are against the death penalty but have no problem killing innocents. They don't have the first clue about right and wrong.
With 1.3million children murdered every year this issue may be a bigger stain on this country than slavery. It's a toss up because both issues are massively wrong. The real question is how do we stop the murder?
Catholic Kerry
December 19, 2008 - 20:40 ET by iveseenitallFunny they would quote John Kerry. He's a "Catholic", isn't he? Oh wait, Kennedy is also a "Catholic"and he also supports killing innocents on demand. And they both want to institutionalize these murders and force medical workers to help in snuffing out chilren's lives. Why aren't they excommunicated? Oh, they're very wealthy. That explains it.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
ISIA---
December 19, 2008 - 21:00 ET by misterbillAs a middle income Catholic (ex-Catholic, actually), I do not have enough money to buy a plenary indulgence, so I guess what you say about wealthy Catholics is true.
Curses, I cannot buy my way into heaven. I will have to live by the golden rule to get in. Oh, the humanities!
Misterbill
December 19, 2008 - 21:20 ET by iveseenitallIt does my heart good to see you use the words "plenary indulgence". I haven't heard that in years. You are a very intelligent, well-educated guy. I doubt 1% of modern day Americans would know to what you are referring. Thanks for the memories.
NEVER, NEVER trust a "liberal"
Martin Luther
December 20, 2008 - 00:52 ET by m1xramAll you have to do is watch a documentary on Martin Luther. He did a lot of good for the church, well up till the end anyway. If I remember correctly the Vatican wanted to put a hit out on him but he snuck off to a friends in Germany? They didn't like his objections to selling sin (indulgences).
A similar thing happened in the United Methodist Church a several years back. They had introduced the concept of Pluralism which basically said there are many ways to heaven. It took four or five general conferences to get back to original doctrine based on the Bible. A general conference happens every four years.
The people who sold those
December 20, 2008 - 08:05 ET by motherbeltI have no doubt the people who sold plenary indulgences are paying for it. God is merciful, but also just.
I dunno
December 19, 2008 - 20:36 ET by criticalthinkingI rue the day when I go to the doctor and am told that they will not help me with my strep throught because god wanted me to have that strep throught, and who are they, a lowly doctor, to overide god's will?
Strep Throat?
December 19, 2008 - 21:49 ET by iveseenitallThe last time I looked, you "liberals" wanted free choice (even to kill babies). Only YOUR type of free choice, I guess. Typical.
BTW, even the army allows conscientious objectors based on their moral and religious beliefs. Seems the military are more tolerant than you lefties.
Moreover, the government has no Constitutional right to force someone to do something that is morally reprehensible to him/her.
Futhermore, if you want to use the "slippery slope" argument, will the govenment now force women to HAVE an abortion? Where does this stop?
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Excellent job...
December 20, 2008 - 02:39 ET by Cortillaen...with the asinine straw man argument and horrendously ironic name. If you want to have a real debate over abortion, plenty of people here are ready and willing to take you on, not the least of whom being myself, but snide irrelevance won't get you anything but well-deserved ridicule.
www.daybydaycartoon.... Proving that conservative comedy is very real.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." - Miyamoto Musashi
The most astoundingly callous thing I ever heard
December 20, 2008 - 09:31 ET by SickofLibsThank you so much for crystallizing the lib viewpoint on this issue. I am bookmarking your post for future abortion debates I may have as the quintessential lib viewpoint on the value of human life:
"A human embryo is no different than streptococcus bacteria."
It might as well be to
December 20, 2008 - 10:51 ET by andophiroxiaIt might as well be to liberals, considering they won't even consider calling the fetus a human fetus. Also, it's a parasite and a pile of cells to them--much like a tumor. That's why that strep throat reference makes sense to them.
Funny enough, human DNA is what defines you. The first trimester is the natural gulag we must all face while we are still in the womb. If we don't pass the body test of this, then the baby will not be.
Realizing that, you understand the miracle of life. You've already weathered the gauntlet in terms of even making it to be born!
Funny enough, I notice that most pro-choice women haven't conceived babies themselves, but a good number of pro-life women have had the abortion under that idiotic liberal argument that it's "just a pile of cells" and that you shouldn't be "punished" for your actions. After they realize what they've done and the enormous pain and guilt, (not to mention some with health problems), they realize that was all BS and become pro-life.
You liberals are responsible for at least misinforming those said women, for they punish themselves for the rest of their lives for doing such an act under false information and pretenses and you say it "doesn't matter".
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
Rue the day
December 20, 2008 - 11:03 ET by CobraManI rue the day when I go to the doctor and am told that I MUST have a tonsillectomy because I MIGHT contract an infection some day.
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
Stupidity
December 19, 2008 - 23:05 ET by KC MulvilleThe pro-choice medical providers argue that individuals have a right to their own conscience, so long as it doesn't detract from the views of the pro-choice medical providers. Their argument only makes sense if they already assume that the procedures are OK in the first place. But that is precisely what the "conscientious objectors" object to ... the idea that those procedures are OK.
This snippet of Gupta's brilliance made me laugh out loud: "And also, it’s a bit of a slippery slope. I mean, when you say, I’m not going to provide care based on my own conscience -- you know, my own conscience, I mean, you can imagine that opens up a whole wide range of possibilities."
Really? Does Gupta
December 20, 2008 - 08:28 ET by motherbeltReally?
Does Gupta imagine that there are doctors whose conscience forbids them from providing a whole array of treatments and procedures?
I'll bet he couldn't think of one other example. Does he think Christian Scientists become doctors?
Does anyone think a gay person would be forced, if his profession was that of a therapist, to provide counseling to one who wanted to leave the homosexual life?
HAH!
The real issue here is abortion
December 20, 2008 - 00:27 ET by Southern voterWith the potential passing of the Freedom of Choice Act by Obama all hospitals and medical doctors will be forced to perform abortions unless excluded by this protection. The Council of Catholic Bishops recently sent a letter to President elect Obama stating that all Catholic Hospitals in the US will be closed if forced to perform abortions.....so yes, this subject will continue to be debated until resolved....and as for Kerry, all the Kennedys, Biden, Pelosi and all the other Catholic politicians who have the power to protect life and choose to not do so by their voice and their vote are not really given a pass because of their $$$$ by the church ...the Church has made it clear to them ....they choose to do otherwise....we will all answer to the same higher power....
semantics
December 20, 2008 - 02:16 ET by m1xramWe use words like pro-choice and abortion. Who gave us these words, the pro-choice / abortion crowd. I find these words offensive.
What really happens? People come up with a plan, consult others about that plan and then implement a plan to kill a child. The child has done nothing wrong. If the child had done something wrong it would still be due Due Process. What do we call a successful plan to kill another human? Why we call it premeditated murder.
There has been at least one case where a pregnant woman was killed. The murderer was charged with two counts of murder, the woman and the unborn child. See Case Verdict of Stephen Poaches. Notice how the AP falsely words the verdict rather than what really happened.
I'm glad to see that the Catholics won't cave on this issue but it doesn't help us to keep using the liberal's PC terminology either.
Well that's because, in the
December 20, 2008 - 08:30 ET by motherbeltWell that's because, in the liberal mindset, if the woman wants it, it's a baby. If not, it's a fetus, just a clump of cells with no rights.
Got it?
Got this from my Dad
December 20, 2008 - 09:04 ET by littlemissmuffinSmart doctor:
A worried woman went to her gynecologist and
said:"Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need
your help! My baby is not even 1 yr. old and I'm pregnant
again. I don't want kids so close together."So the doctor
said: 'OK, and what do you want me to do?'She said: 'I want
you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with
this."The doctor thought for a little, and after some
silence he said to the lady: "I think I have a better
solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you
too."She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to
accept her request.Then he continued: 'You see, in order for
you not to have to take care of 2 babies at the same time,
let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest
some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill
one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would
be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your
arms."The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How
terrible! It's a crime to kill a child!"'I agree,' the
doctor replied. "But you seemed to be ok with it, so I
thought maybe that was the best solution."The doctor smiled,
realizing that he had made his point. He convinced the mom
that there is no difference in killing a child that's
already been born and one that's still in the womb.The crime
is the same!
"If we conservatives moved to those seven non-existent States, the government couldn’t find us and tax us to death!"
Whoa. That's heavy.
December 20, 2008 - 09:33 ET by SickofLibsWhoa. That's heavy.
CNN Report
December 20, 2008 - 12:30 ET by east tennessee johnSo now, in good conscience, Planned Parenthood is going to advise their underage patrons who come in that there is an alternative to aborting their child, right?
CNN Report
December 20, 2008 - 12:30 ET by east tennessee johnSo now, in good conscience, Planned Parenthood is going to advise their underage patrons who come in that there is an alternative to aborting their child, right?
impressive
December 20, 2008 - 19:50 ET by m1xramGood job, an excellent illustration.
lmm.... BEAUTIFUL! Thank
December 20, 2008 - 20:10 ET by bigtimerlmm....
BEAUTIFUL!
Thank you gal.
Could not be put any better.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
already got it
December 20, 2008 - 20:00 ET by m1xramThat was the point of not using the liberal mindset terminology. We must label things as they are and remove the abstractions they use as crutches.
Scope of Conscience Protection
December 20, 2008 - 19:58 ET by PharmerThese new regulations really didn't expand rights of conscience for health care workers, but they did strengthen the protection. Under previous regulations it has been up to the newly unemployed health care worker to attempt a civil suit with no financial resources. These civil suits could drag on for years. Some of the health care professionals obtained legal aid from public interest law firms such as the ACLJ, but most simply had no means to seek redress.
The big change is to add teeth to the current protections, but only for those working for institutions which receive some kind of federal income source. The institution which discriminates against adherents to the ideals of the Hippocratic Oath will feel some direct pain through loss of federal funding.
Thanks to Matthew Balan for shining the light on this issue.
Gupta said "And also, it’s
December 21, 2008 - 17:22 ET by sembyGupta said "And also, it’s a bit of a slippery slope. I mean, when you say, I’m not going to provide care based on my own conscience -- you know, my own conscience, I mean, you can imagine that opens up a whole wide range of possibilities, in terms of what is going to be treated and what is not."....but this statement can be reversed when you say it is mandatory that I perform all services regardless of my beliefs, you will then have people opting out of the medical profession. He's an idiot. You know when is this guy ever practicing, he's traveling all over the world, is on CNN, does videos for doctors office. Does anyone really know if he is in good standing with the medical community?
Distrusted
December 21, 2008 - 17:37 ET by BW222CNN isn't known as the most DIStrusted name in news for nothing.
BW222