On Thursday’s The View, co-host Joy Behar expressed her displeasure at President-Elect Barack Obama’s choice of Rick Warren for the invocation at his inauguration: “I don’t think it’s appropriate. It’s like putting, you know, Cheney in charge of gun control. It’s wrong....it’s just wrong.”
The topic of Obama choosing Warren came up during the regular opening “Hot Topics” segment of the ABC daytime program. Whoopi Goldberg, who moderated the segment, introduced the controversy behind this choice: “...[A] lot of folks are opposed to this gentleman: gay -- because he opposes gay marriage, he’s anti-abortion -- he’s got a lot of different stances. There’s a lot of people saying he’s a bad choice.”
Elisabeth Hasselbeck was the first co-host to come to Warren’s defense: “I think he’s a great choice. He held the forum -- remember when he did the forum between McCain and Obama during the election? He sat them down and had the faith forum, which I found was great during our times right now. And I think that he’ll -- I think he’ll do a great job. He’s got an incredible following, he’s a strong speaker.”
Behar responded by immediately bringing up Warren’s support for Proposition 8 in California: “But he’s spoken out against gay marriage.” Hasselbeck countered by trying to read Obama’s intention in choosing the pastor: “...I think maybe what President-elect Obama’s hoping to do is maybe diminish the sort of -- I don’t know, negative cast that’s on Christian evangelicals.”
Sherri Shepherd then stepped in to defend Obama’s decision as Behar continued to question the decision, since she emphasized how “Christian evangelicals did not put Obama in the White House.” When both Shepherd and Hasselbeck both pointed out how many Christians voted for the Democrat, Behar made her “Cheney in charge of gun control” line.
Hasselbeck, as you might expect brought up Obama’s former pastor: “Who would you rather have -- Reverend Wright?” Goldberg reentered the debate at this point: “...[B]ecause he is using this gentleman to do the invocation does not mean that he stands with them -- all of the man’s positions. It’s the same argument we tried to explain to people about Reverend Wright. Because you’re with somebody, it doesn’t mean that just because you’re friends, or you spend a lot of time with him, that you feel as they do.”
Later, as the five co-hosts continued to debate the Warren pick, Behar asked, “Why not put a rabbi in there?” Shepherd didn’t see the point of this suggestion, but Behar shot back, “Why not? This country is not just a Christian nation.” Shepherd replied, “The thing about it is Obama is going to, as president -- he’s going to do things that -- you can’t please everybody. He’s going to do things that you don’t like, that I don’t like...”
Goldberg and Barbara Walters closed out the discussion by defending Obama’s decision:
GOLDBERG: Here’s the -- here’s the bottom line: we didn’t -- we did not put him into office to pick a preacher. We put him into office to get our act together in the country and that’s his personal pick --
WALTERS: And this is his personal choice.
GOLDBERG: And I’m going to go with it, and I know that he doesn’t believe all that stuff --
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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......but Behar shot back,
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:23 ET by MidAmerica......but Behar shot back, “Why not? This country is not just a Christian nation.”
Well she's right. Obama could have had Bill Maher do the invocation to please people like Ms. Behar.
.. or Perahps Reverend Wright
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 20:47 ET by allanfPerhaps Reverend Wright would have made Joy happy. Or terrorist Kaleid Muhammed to show love for Muslims?
Twinkies
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:04 ET by cvgbuckeyeKinda like putting Joy in charge of the Twinkies.
"Joy Behar: Obama Picking
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:27 ET by Chris Norman"Joy Behar: Obama Picking Rick Warren Like 'Cheney in Charge of Gun Control'"
Or putting you on a television discussion show, huh, Ms. Behar.
The brain trust?????
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:29 ET by thebutlerdiditI want to have Christian feelings toward Joy Behark, but I just find it so hard! She has got to be the most narrow-minded woman I have even seen, on a tv program! I am not a big fan of B O'Reilly, but when he was on the show, he actually tired to be nice to her and reason with her, and she sat there with her arms crossed over her chest, made snide little childish remarks, and was just openly hostile. I have heard her tout her education, but I truly find her one of the most ill-informed ignorant people, I've ever seen. Actually, I find the whole show embarassing, as a woman, because the women on there seem so ignorant! If they put some sharper, smarter women on there, and actually had 2 libs and 2 conservs, it might not be bad. I like EH, but I don't respect her as much, just because she sits there and will pander to them, at times. They never move to her POV, but she will get ganged up on and go to their POV. And BW may know everyone and their brother, but she never says anything particularly smart or thought provoking. I have always seen her as one of those people who got where she is because she is a woman, not by her great ability.
Look out for a Behar Smiting.
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:30 ET by mizflame98Someone had the "audacity" to speak out and disagree with "The One"? Better take cover, the seas will rise up and Neptune will dole out a rightful smiting per Obama's command.
Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration
http://www.despair.com/government.html
Excuse me, Ms. Behar, Cheney ...
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:42 ET by legacyrepublicanCheney would do a great job at gun control. He understands the issues. He knows the 2nd amendment. He honors it. He knows how to handle a gun, believe it or not.
That would be like putting a doctor in control of your medical treatment.
Not a bad idea, really.
Have you, Ms. Behar, considered that you need a good psychiatrist?
Brilliant Move
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:41 ET by CaringwhiteguyBrilliant move by BHO. Kind of a Sister Souljah in reverse. Flakes on the left will be upset for another day-and-a-half and the gullible in the CENTER (notice I didn't say on the right) will think BHO is being "inclusive".
How long will it be before Behar moves on to something else?
Day-and-a-half.
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 07:00 ET by BigSky1970Day-and-a-half.
Actually, I was kind of
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:44 ET by Chris NormanActually, I was kind of hoping he'd pick the Reverend Wright to deliver the invocation. Now that would have made for real interesting viewing - and would have been a more honest choice...
and would have been a more honest choice...
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 06:46 ET by MOONSTRUCKAmen Chris Norman.
If b hussein o is a Christian, I am a nun. You DO NOT sit and watch the "reverend" wright for 20 some years if you are a Christian.
Right. No person of
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 07:02 ET by BigSky1970Right. No person of Christian faith would sit in a Church for 20 years and listen to that rotgut Wright spews.
Rev. Do-Wright must have
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:48 ET by bigtimerRev. Do-Wright must have declined.
Btw...as far as I am concerned, I'm not happy that Warren is doing the Invocation myself.
O is for infanticide...how Warren can over-look that is beyond me.
Then again, I'm no big fan of Warren either...did like the CNN debate, that is about it.
Just my two cents.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt, I agree.
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 19:49 ET by R D HelmI would have preferred that Warren politely decline the offer, for exactly the reason you point out, as well as a few others.
I have a real problem with anyone praying for the success of a man who I believe is not a Christian, and whose stated goal is to turn this country into a socialist hell-hole.
On the other hand, if it cheeses off the Obamatoids this much, then maybe it'll work out for the best. :-)
However, given the outcry and all, I have a feeling that between now and January 20th, Warren will be replaced by a non-Christian preacher-like Rev. Wright, or Rev. Sharpton, or Rev. Jackson.
-Dave
This nation is about to be brutally raped by the socialists, and the MSM will be a willing participant.
I really don't think that
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 20:27 ET by motherbeltI really don't think that Warren's or Obama's beliefs had anything to do with this choice.
Rick Warren is the "cool" pastor, heading up the currently "cool" church.
That's what Obama is looking for. It's that simple, IMO.
you are correct mb.....
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 20:46 ET by porpoiseboyit's the "cool factor"
but why all the hoopla anyway? why is the left suprised? didn't bho & hillary both clearly state that they did NOT support gay marriage? so why is that their beef with warren? do they already regret that they assumed bho was just saying that for political expediancy? what if he was telling the truth? uh oh lefties......
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
mb.... Bingo! You hit
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 21:02 ET by bigtimermb....
Bingo!
You hit the nail right directly on the head, and drove it.
No one could say it any better.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Thanks. I think people
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 21:43 ET by motherbeltThanks.
I think people sometimes overcomplicate things.
Obama is all about appearances; being new and being cool. Hence, Rick Warren: the face of the new, cool Church.
The thing that really cracks me up about that exchange is Shepherd saying:
“The thing about it is Obama is going to, as president -- he’s going to
do things that -- you can’t please everybody. He’s going to do things
that you don’t like, that I don’t like...” (emphasis added)
So now, when it's Obama, NOW she's OK with the fact that a President can't always please her.
Excuse me while I duct tape my head!
Us "MB" types always get it right...
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 22:36 ET by Mike BrattonAwhile back, Warren understood a few fundamental concepts about Christian service, and packaged them in a different phraseology.
Good on him.
Unfortunately, he let the subsequent accolades go, apparently, to his head--this business with Obama is but the latest set of examples. Warren has been asked to pronounce an invocation over Obama, someone who:
Had Warren given a substantive response, it would have been to decline the offer. The fact that Obama will parade him about on Inauguration Day is disgusting.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
Mike... Disgusting is
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 02:27 ET by bigtimerMike...
Disgusting is far too polite for me....as far as I am, or have ever been concerned.... Warren is another show-boater..
Guess it will have to do...what choice do we have...my how integrity, morals ect are sucked down that drain of life in nothing flat.
As Perot said long ago..."Hear that Sucking Sound?".... ;-)
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 02:50 ET by cocodrieWarren is more into empire building for himself. His gospel message is the feel good approach. Salvation and Jesus are secondary to him.
I researched him a lot when some associates at our church developed an interest in his programs. His programs have actually destroyed some churches and ruined others. He does do some good but is not what he promotes himself as being.
coco.... Could not agree
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 03:02 ET by bigtimercoco....
Could not agree more with your summation.
I also feel the same about whatshisname...(his wife just got out of trouble with some phony airline stewardess scuffle, (which I was glad of because of the msm) phony, flashy is easy to spot out for some of us....some like my relatives never could see through that...
Long story....but I hope you know where I am coming from somewhat.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Good morning Mike
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 02:59 ET by cocodrieSorry I left your name off my reply to BT. It was meant for both of you.
Warren will use this public appearance to promote his own agenda. That's fine, but I think its wrong to use Jesus to promote our own ambitions.
Been enjoying your site.
mb... You gotta be
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 22:40 ET by Clear thinkermb...
You gotta be running low on tuct tape by now. I bought a 4 pack yesterday.
Polar Bear Commits Suicide
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Not duct tape, folks. Shamwow.
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 08:04 ET by Mike BrattonSure, it costs a little more--but it's made by Germans, and Germans always make good stuff.
Are you kidding me? I don't even buy duct tape any more!
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
Or kinda like puting Joy
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:53 ET by rbosqueOr kinda like puting Joy Behar in charge of an asylum.
Oh wait...
re: rbosque
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 21:50 ET by Vivaldi5rbosque:
Actually, I was going to say "kinda like putting Joy Behar in charge of Mensa." But that'll work....
The worms begins to turn
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 18:53 ET by SickofLibsEt tu, Blohar?
When Blohar begins criticizing Obama, you can be sure the next few months are going to be very entertaining, indeedy!
And hey, where's all the [applause], [laughter]s?
Joe Biden said very clearly
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 22:35 ET by nwahsJoe Biden said very clearly in the debate with Palin, that he and Obama are against gay marriage. Why is Behar surprised?
Because she's and entertainer, not too bright, doesn't pay attention, and really isn't an issue for other than the 3 million who watch "The View."
I'm still astounded by the press she gets. Who in God's little acre, cares what she thinks?
The only ones who were FOR
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 06:56 ET by BigSky1970The only ones who were FOR gay marriage on the Democrat ticket in 2008 were Richardson and Kucinich. I'll bet Behar didn't even know that.
I knew long before Warren's get together that Obama was against gay marriage. Behar was completely bowled over by the mystique of Obama she didn't pay any attention to what he was saying. Behar has demonstrated she's just one of these Obama Drones that Mark Levin talks about.
No more View
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 19:03 ET by m1xramPlease please please no more view articles, I beg you all.
What makes these people so
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 19:11 ET by seanrobinsWhat makes these people so bloody stupid?
Doesn't a single one of them know what Obama's espoused views on gay marriage are?
I didn't think so.
sean robins
blog.seanrobins.com
Joy is, what's the word? Stupid!
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 19:13 ET by Mica the MagnificentIt would take about 5 minutes for a smooth talker to convince Joy Behar that 'Slinky' is the answer to our energy needs.
Smooth talker: Look, Joy, it descends down the staircase without fossil fuel, nor does it emit global warming gasses. It gets its energy from the earth.
Joy: You mean the answer to all our energy problems is . . Slinky? OMG! Whoopi, did you see this?
(Audience applauses, cheers.)
Walters: Uh, Joy. Slinky is a toy we had as kids back in the . . .
Joy: Shut up, Barbara. I quit! I am going to devote my life and fortune to this clean energy thing called 'Slinky.' Obama will be proud of me!
(She takes the Slinky and runs off stage)
Joy: Bwahahahahaha . .
Slinky
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 19:22 ET by SickofLibsLove the concept.
Except I was the kid who always managed to mangle his, ending up with a "special needs sLinkY."
Yup, sickoflibs
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 19:28 ET by Mica the MagnificentMy Slinky was so tangled it never actually 'walked' down the stairs.
It became my 'suicide jumper' Slinky.
I should send this to Joy
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 19:50 ET by Clear thinkerI should send this to Joy Blowhard... Fun With Rick Warren & PE Obama
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Joy Behar...
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 23:48 ET by talkradio55...is the stupidest person on TV today. She clearly doesn't have a clue. One of the brainless criticisms of Rick Warren is that he is against gay marriage. SO IS OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What has Behar done?
Thu, 12/18/2008 - 23:58 ET by awffp1890Rick Warren brought us The Purpose Driven Life. A book that has impacted more people than Joy could possibly dream of reaching. Besides being a loud-mouthed talk show host, what really has she contributed to society? Not much.
How much longer will ABC employ her? I can only guess as long as she brings in the ratings based on rants like this. Sad.
"Not for fame or reward, not for place or rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty." - From the barracks at Ft. Benning
Oh, how sweet it is. Of
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 00:28 ET by RR GOPOh, how sweet it is.
Of course, Conservatives will be more ticked off in the coming years than the Liberals, but it's great to see them get in a frenzy over The One seeing to his personal political power and PR than worrying about what even his most vocal sick-o-phants want him to do once in a while.
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Behar continues to display
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 06:44 ET by BigSky1970Behar continues to display what little she knows about what's going on around her.
I have to wonder who
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 07:00 ET by MOONSTRUCKis watching this pukey show. I tuned in once, a few years back, made it less than 5 minutes. yuk
This show is an embarrassment to women.
Thank the Lord, all women do not have the views of the view!
Joy Behar
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 10:13 ET by inevitableThese idiots remind me of the classic thriller novel" Whores and what to do with them". The protagonist severs the heads of his prostitute victims and places them on the seat of his car, conversing with them as he drives. Now that's entertainment!
i think its time Ms Behar
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:19 ET by JIMMY1660i think its time Ms Behar was vetted. where does she come from?
where was she educated?
at her party the lead speaker would be Fidel Castro, Stalin,Putkin???she is a joke!
allow me to Love America
Like 'Cheney in Charge of Gun Control'
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:27 ET by Teddy(hardy freakin' har), or like Your being in charge of speech therapy, "Joy".
Talk about your misnomers!
teddy -- oh haven't you
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:32 ET by Jack Bauerteddy -- oh haven't you heard?
According to Robert Redford (a man who reaches new depths in dumbness in actors) Cheney is also in charge of deciding where the US drills for oil on its own soil.
Lol! Yeah,
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:04 ET by TeddyLol! Yeah, I had the misfortune of catching the reports about that hasbeen's Cheney rant.
But I figured it as his looks are shot, his acting's always been C to C+ on his best day, he never had much action at the hamster wheel, so he just hopped back up on the "Hey! I still matter too, Ya' Know!" stump for a day.
I know "Butch" was a flaming lib. He had a lot of class about it though.
Butch ate Bob's lunch, both on And off camera.
→ Teddy
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:12 ET by Cool ArrowGosh, who can forget "Little Foss and Big Halsy"? It might just have been better than "Ishtar".
Oh WOW! Never seen That one before!
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:39 ET by TeddyOh WOW! Never seen That one before! Hahahaha!!
That is some Seriously tragic "acting"!
See the race! BE The Race! Or Jon Lovitz SNL territory.
Now I Want to see to all of Little Foss.
Everybody's got a "So bad they're good" file. Yes?
Thanks Cool Arrow! I Think? LOL!
2 Reasons Why Warren Shouldn't be at Obama's Inauguration!
Sun, 12/21/2008 - 09:08 ET by cpmondelloTwo Reasons Why Rick Warren Should NOT be invited to Obama's Inauguration!
These two stories are from the first two weeks of December this year in the USA!!!
Woman with Rainbow Flag on her car gets gang raped:
Cops offer $10,000 reward to solve gang rape of lesbian attacked in Richmond
12/19/2008
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/nationalbreaking/ci_11273543
Two brothers hugging get called anti-gay names are attacked and one now is very critical condition, on life support systems and in a coma after an operation for skull fractures and extensive brain damage:
Attack on Ecuadorean Brothers Investigated as Hate Crime
December 9, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/nyregion/09assault.html?ref=nyregion
You sound sort of crazy.
Sun, 12/21/2008 - 09:25 ET by Jack BauerYou sound sort of crazy. Sophomoric, really.
The first story is highly
Sun, 12/21/2008 - 09:33 ET by PeskyDaneThe first story is highly suspect. Is the police lieutenant accurately quoted? The reason I ask is because police, especially at that level, receive intensive public affairs training (two brothers - one a police seargent, the other a fed). He is quoted, but he does not source his statements (the victim, emergency room personnel) as they are carefully trained to do in order to keep the case from being thrown out once the arrests are made. Another rookie mistake - no qualifications - everything is presented as a fact without any qualifications (according to, allegedly, etc.) - this does not happen so early in a case. Again, if these are verbatim statements, then he's is risking getting this thing thrown out.
Having said that, there is one compelling reason for Warren to speak - it's making the Left even nuttier - the entertainment value of which can not be over-stated.