On Monday’s Newsroom program, CNN European political editor Robin Oakley pontificated to Senators McCain and Obama on how the U.S. can be more liked by people in Europe. The U.K. native’s advice -- change the country’s policies, especially its conservative ones, so it’s more like the European Union. The best example of this came when Oakley brought up the issue of guns: "While we're on the symbolism, let me remind you how many Europeans see U.S. voters -- as a trigger-happy bunch with a Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other.... Does either of you senators have any serious plans to reduce the number of guns available in the U.S. or even dare to suggest it? That really would impress the Europeans, that you stand for change." The editor played video of Americans shooting off firearms, especially automatic weapons, at ranges and shoot-offs, playing further on a common European stereotype of Americans.
Anchor Rick Sanchez introduced Oakley’s report just after the top of the 3 pm Eastern hour of the CNN program, asking, in so many words, "why does the rest of the world hate us?" "There's no doubt that, as the rest of the world sees that, they do begin to wonder about us. They also wonder about our political system. In many ways, they don't seem to understand us. So, we want you to watch this report. It's coming up now. It's prepared by Robin Oakley, one of our chief international correspondents with oodles of experience." Instead of it being about the entire world however, Oakley focused on Europe. He began with file video of Barack Obama being introduced to a cheering crowd during his trip to Europe earlier this year and with the following commentary: "It's nice to be loved, isn't it, Senator Obama? It's nice to have people who care, don't you find, Senator McCain? But the president of the United States has a wider role, too, as leader of the free world. So, how much do you care about being liked outside the United States, too? Take Europe, for example."
He then began giving advice on different issues that are often contentious in transatlantic relations, starting the war on terror: "[A]llow me to offer some advice on how to be liked and how to make America liked in Europe -- no more, please, of that old-Europe, new-Europe stuff. Let's start with, well, Guantanamo Bay. To some Americans, it's a symbol of America's implacable determination to win the war against terror. For most Europeans, it's a sickening example of how the war against terror is being lost, shaming the defenders of democracy by using torture and imprisonment without trial."
After following the Guantanamo Bay issue with his left-wing advice on gun control, Oakley continued by moaning about another common stereotype that many Europeans have about Americans -- that every American drives a SUV: "Here's another U.S. image that runs across the world, gas-guzzling autos stacked along the U.S. freeways, contributing heftily to the climate change crisis....Over here in Europe, we have the general impression, Senator McCain, Senator Obama, that you would be more cooperative on climate change than the present administration. But let's have some specifics. Will you or will you not sign up to the Kyoto agreement's successor?"
As you might expect, the CNN editor concluded with the issues of "peace and war," as he put it, all the while continuing his Europeans-are-superior tone:
OAKLEY: And what about the really big ones, peace and war? You have given us a clear idea where you stand on some of the particulars, like Iraq.
SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN: I know how to win wars. I know how to win wars.
OBAMA: I will give our military a new mission on my first day in office -- ending this war.
OAKLEY: That's fine. But what Europe would like to know, Senator Obama, is just when you expect that mission to end. And winning wars is one thing, Senator McCain. What Europe would like to be assured is that you don't plan to start any more. Are you both ruling out military action against Iran? How, for example, do you see relations with Russia developing, another Cold War, Senators? Sounding tough from Washington is one thing, but for the European Union, Putin and Medvedev are virtually next-door neighbors, and not only that, neighbors who supply some 40 percent of our energy. So, can Europe's politicians really be blamed for preferring to keep talking to the bear, however grumpy he may get?
And that, Senators, brings me to the crux of the matter. Though we don't always have shared interests, we do have shared values. Europeans are your natural allies. And that, our leaders reckon, gives us the right to be consulted. We know you will sometimes have to do your own thing, but we would like to feel that, as president, you will talk, not just to your vice president and the Pentagon, but to your allies, too, before you act. And, if you won't let me tell you that's the way to get results, then ask a certain President George W. Bush. In his first term, he learned it the hard way. Robin Oakley, CNN, London.
This is just what the U.S. needs -- another condescending left-wing European telling Americans that they should be more like him and his buddies overseas.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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His dream has a good
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 12:50 ET by ElyasHis dream has a good chance of coming true. Obama will increase taxes, bankrupt the nation with univerisal healthcare, slow our economy to a halt, nationalize most industries, drastically reduce the strength of our military, and let immigrants take over the nation and start using their own laws to govern themselves.
Look who well Europe is doing following their standards. Russia can break them at any time they feel like it, and when our economy collapses they will collapse even quicker.
Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying. - Ronald Reagan
Oakley
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 12:52 ET by well99Newsflash.You dont represent Europe.You are one person.Even if there was a petition of 200 million europeans I could care less.This is our country and not yours.Clean up your own house before you try to clean ours.How is that Sharia(SP) law thing going?
With all due respect Mr.
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 12:52 ET by Clear thinkerWith all due respect Mr. Oakley... Go To Hell!
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"as a trigger-happy bunch
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 12:54 ET by Chris Norman"as a trigger-happy bunch with a Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other...."
Well, your ancestors weren't sorry to see Americans with rifles in their hands when they came over to save the Europeans' butts. Really, is this guy trying to win the Insufferably Smug and Condescending Jerk of the Year award? Yet, CNN eats this up...
McNotObama '08
We had a revolution for a reason
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 12:55 ET by greenfairieWe had a revolution for a reason...we didn't want to be Europeans!
Thank goodness for those guns and Bibles. Those are the only things that have kept America free from potential Hitlers, Francos, Mussolinis, and Stalins. Those are the only things that can ultimately stop the creeping Shar'ia that is claiming the UK. Maybe somebody needs to worry about his backyard before he worries about mine.
Exactly, why do we want to
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:24 ET by MrSnugglesExactly, why do we want to listen to a bunch of pansies that are constantly enabling murderous dictators? Before you know it, they will be begging us to bring our guns and bibles to rescue them from their islamofascist overlords.
While we're at it,
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:00 ET by mizflame98While we're at it, why not adopt Sharia Law the way it has been adopted in the UK? Europeans continually complain about us Americans until they need our guns and warring abilities to bail them out of a repressive situation by some obnoxious superpower.
“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula? I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.”
B.H. Obama
We could start fighting amongst ourselves.
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:00 ET by JWFMe and Indiana Joe could go at it and draw in the other states until it consumes us all and then wait for Europe to come finally end it.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
JWF,
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:17 ET by Indiana JoeYou talkin' to me? I don't see anyone else here, you must be talkin' to me.
<edit: almost forgot... ;^) >
Jesus Christ was crucified by "community organizers."
Always good to see what CNN Eurabia is up to.
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:06 ET by R D HelmCNN, both here and abroad, has replaced Pravda as the chief source of the world's anti-American propaganda.
-Dave
Barrack Hussein Obama: The Marxist messiah.
Hey Nimrod Oakley
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:11 ET by ricklailDidn't we fight a war in 1776 to get away from European influence?
"The devil is a better theologian that any of us and is a devil still" A.W. Tozer
Exactly rick...funny how
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:15 ET by bigtimerExactly rick...funny how people/leftists forget what they want to when convenient...as long as it fits what they want for their outcome, that is all that matters.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Why?
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:13 ET by GothampcWhy does everyone want the US to be more like Europe? (I'm still waiting for an answer from John Kerry since his whole POTUS campaign was based on consulting Europe on everything).
Europe can't even get their own house in order. Why won't their citizens approve the EU Constitution?
If Americans want to live like Europeans, please feel free to move.
Yeah, right
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:13 ET by Indiana Joe"Oodles of experience," huh? Well, experience without wisdom is just... staying alive, I guess. Kudos for that, pal.
Europe's "put up with anything for our comfort" attitude is what caused WWII. Ever hear of Neville Chamberlain, Oakley? Learn anything from that? The best thing that ever happened to Europe was Japan bombing Pearl Harbor. Else, who would have stopped you from speaking German today, hmm?
America is the leader of the "free world" because you guys either couldn't or wouldn't take the role. You dropped the ball, and we came to the rescue. We sure burned an awful lot of oil (among other things, like people) doing that. Going to complain about that "waste?"
While this country is a super-power and affects the whole world, we elect our own leaders here. You guys used to control who ran this place, but we threw your sorry asses out of here over 220 years ago. About time you got used to it, and got over it.
We exist as a nation because we didn't want to be Europeans, get it? Our ancestors took on a dangerous voyage and settled in raw wilderness full of wild animals and hostile natives to avoid living in Europe. Moving to a different country would have been a lot easier, but folks apparently preferred to put a whole ocean between themselves and Europe. And when they got tired of being told how to live by Europeans (English Europeans, specifically), they took care of it.
So, I would say, with all due respect, that I will be damned if I will throw that all away to emulate and listen to European opinions on how to act, how to vote, and how to govern this country. You'd be better served to worry about Europe. If the problems with Russia concern you, and you're so dependent on them for your precious oil, you'd better think twice about letting them increase their control over it. Find a "peaceful" way to convince them to play nice.
You know, like Chamberlain convinced Hitler.
Jesus Christ was crucified by "community organizers."
Indiana -- most Brits don't
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:46 ET by Jack BauerIndiana -- most Brits don't think of themselves as "European."
But they've allowed their country to be hijacked by a self-perpetuating Euro elite. Salami colonization.
Kinda like 8 years of Obama could cement in America. Though I feel the never-say-die American spirit will rise up. Eventually.
Jack,
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 19:34 ET by Indiana JoeNo offense, but at this point, how most Brits think of themselves is moot to me. Just like this guy isn't interested in how most Americans think of themselves.
Britain is on the European continent. They've joined (or tried to) the EU. And this guy talks about how we should care how "Europeans" think. He seems to count himself as a European, at least.
Britain used to be apart, sure. Hell, they controlled a lot of the world. They were relevant. India is the world's biggest democracy today directly because of the Raj. But they let it slip away. The sun finally has set on the British Empire. In spirit as well as fact.
If Britain is being led around by the "Euro-elite" (good term), it's their own damned fault. Guys like this remind me more of Chamberlain than Churchill. Sitting around and waiting for someone else to carry your water for you seems like a good way to make yourself irrelevant and dependent, I think.
I like the British. I wish they had more sand in their craw politically, but I like England. But I just get tired of countries that can't seem to manage themselves telling us how to run things over here.
Makes me cranky. ;^)
Jesus Christ was crucified by "community organizers."
Please CNN convince Obama to admit he agrees with Robin Oakley
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:17 ET by CTThere is nothing Americans like to hear more than how they should be more like Europeans.
give me a break
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:25 ET by boozyEurotrash.....how soon we forget...If it was not for american blood, Europe would be goose stepping......
You clearly forgot to add
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:25 ET by RbastidYou clearly forgot to add how right afterwards Oakley's shoes were taken over by an invading Army.
If Europeans were to look at the way many view them they also wouldn't want to be European. I'd much rather be seen as a strong, Gun shooting, Bible reading capitalist then a feminin, lazy, useless group of people who can't even protect themselves from the youth of the country.
Atleast places like Italy and Poland and the former Soviet block are acting a wee bit differently but the old rule of England, France and Germany are on the brink of becoming 3rd world nations.
I'm sure that Europeans would want us to be more like them...
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:27 ET by c5thenThey probably hate the reminder that they cast off groups of their own populations as unwanted and useless only to see them cross the Atlantic and found a nation that quickly surpassed them and became the single most important country on the face of the Earth.
During our history europe had to put up with tyrants and dictators who led them to war and ruin while we elected our leaders every couple of years and were free of tyranical rule and dictatorial ruin.
They would love nothing better than to see us undo all that wisdom and become just like them.
I've got a better idea. How about all you europeans with courage come on over and we'll teach you how to protect yourselves. You know, like Switzerland. That way you won't be dependant on us and have a psychological complex.
Become more like EuroTrash?
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:28 ET by jefflebowskiYou mean we should give up our countries to unwashed Muslims bent on our destruction, wear Speedos and carry man purses?
Not me Pierre. I'll fight the invasion of Muslims and their sharia law, wouldn't consider a man purse unless I could stash an Uzi in it and my swim trunks are big enough to fit a family of four!
Worry about your own pathetic, dying continent!
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.com
The funny thing is... in
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:37 ET by Jack BauerThe funny thing is... in 2001 Oakley was fired as Chief Political Correspondent by the BBC because....
They thought he was too CONSERVATIVE.
Not kidding!
His replacement is a Labor Party socialist toad called Andrew Marr...
And yes, he sports a fine example of British dentisry. And yes, he lives implanted in the nether regions of Obama's Butt -- just like his US network chums.
Well, at least, for
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:05 ET by Chris NormanWell, at least, for now, the American media can find comfort that they, themselves, are well on their way in adopting the "European model" politically. The rest of America following really starts in earnest on November 7th...
McNotObama '08
Mr Oakley
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:32 ET by misterbillThe Euros are mostly phonies
They have no real cojones.
The Brits feel you're pariah
Unless you live Sharia.
So one would be a twit
And want to live in shit
To cede one's national name
And want to live in shame.
So fuck every national bureau
I don't want to be a Euro
I don't want to run and hide
I want to stand in pride.
The posture that most Europeans take is called "presenting" in the animal world.
Yes, get rid of your guns
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:38 ET by Carl KolchakEurope seems to have an outstanding history of secret police organizations, so if you get rid of your guns, it will make these people more powerful.
Checkout the StB from Czechoslovakia.
http://www.radio.cz/en/article/62993
Checkout the Sigurimi from Albania.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Sigurimi
Checkout the Securitate from Romania.
http://www.securitate.org/securitate.htm
And, who could forget the Stasi.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/experience/spies/spy.files/intellig...
Yes, without firearms these organizations are free to do what they please.
"I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?" Harry Callahan
One reason I would never want to go the British way....
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:39 ET by SRPwrdBritish Leyland
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Scripophily_BLMC_1972...
Shared values
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:41 ET by KC MulvilleDoes anyone remember how much help Reagan gave to Thatcher during the Falklands War against Argentina? That's right - zero help. Why? It wasn't our fight. We had no stake in it. Shared values, even a shared language, meant nothing. What mattered, and still matters, is interest. The shared values argument is logically hysterical. It's laughable to go from "shared values" to a "right to be consulted." We have the power that you don't have, so you concoct some "right" so you can share in that power? Screw that.
And let's be clear about something. Before we invaded Iraq, we came to Europe outlining our worries about Saddam. Don't fast forward to the discovery that he didn't have WMDs, because at the time, Europe didn't know that. Europe also thought he had them. While Europe believed Saddam had WMDs, the US came to Europe for help.
Have you heard the Democrats complain that the Iraqis have a budget surplus, so why don't we demand that Iraq pay their share? Let's turn that logic on Europe. We've paid how many billions on defense, and how much have we gotten in return? France wouldn't even let us fly over their territory.
That "consulting" right is complete nonsense. Screw that.
You are re-writting history
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:55 ET by c5thenThe US gave Brittain logistical and supply assistance when asked. Not to mention significant intelligence help. All during the Falklands war.
You are also forgetting that we went into Iraq in 2003 as a coalition, not on our own as so many would have us believe. We were joined by the Brits, the Chechs, the Japenese, the Dutch, Saudi Arabia, the Germans, etc. etc. It was a big deal in Germany because they had to pass a new law that enabled their armed forces to opperate outside of Germany.
Yes and no
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:28 ET by KC MulvilleI'll accept the correction about the coalition on Iraq. I was thinking more about the UN resolutions, when we were blocked by the French and Germans. We bent over backwards to get a resolution, and they blocked us. When we needed them, they chose to seek their own self-interest. Fine. But they can't turn around now and dismiss interest for the sake of "shared values."
As for the Falklands, it had nothing to do with how "friendly" we were with the British. I remember vividly that the British didn't want us to have any part. Originally we wanted to be mediators, but neither side wanted us involved. Reagan stayed out of it. When it became clear that the post-war Argentina was going to be a problem for us, then it did become our interest. Things changed when the Argentines shot an exocet missile and sunk a British ship, and that's when the British sought American anti-missile technology.
No help to the UK re: the Falklands? Not quite
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:58 ET by Prester John"Margaret Thatcher would have lost the Falklands war in 1982 if America had failed to provide crucial missiles to bolster British air defences, according to an adviser to the former prime minister.
America, which angered the Thatcher government with its initially even-handed approach to the conflict, was believed to have provided little more than intelligence once Washington lost patience with the Argentinians.
But British and American officials say in the BBC documentary that Washington provided the latest Sidewinder missiles at 48 hours' notice after the British task force came under fire. "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/sep/06/falklands.world
See my post below, PJ
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:07 ET by BlondeWe flew out of Patrick AFB at Cape Canaveral with some of the support materiel. Acension Island is a down-range tracking station, which at the time was shared by us and the Brits, IIRC.
In his own words (28 seconds): Obama's change.....SOCIALISM.
KC -- I'm pretty sure the
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:02 ET by Jack BauerKC -- I'm pretty sure the US gave the UK invaluable help in the Falklands.
Starting with continuous real-time Spy Satellite intel. I think Reagan did see national interest in helping Mrs T.
Though I actually agree with the thrust of your argument. I have long thought that the US must start to gear its military to have a global reach without depending on any "ally."
Massive BATTLE CARRIERS that can project overwhelming force anywhere in the world at any time.
Not true, KC
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:03 ET by BlondeAt the time, KC, my ex was in the Army. We flew Space-A to Antigua, on a cargo plane that was on it's way to Ascension Island, chock full of supplies for the Brits.
We may not have provided any ships/planes/troops (and I don't know whether we were asked to), but we most certainly provided support.
In his own words (28 seconds): Obama's change.....SOCIALISM.
The French 'Resistance'
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:03 ET by SickofLibsAll great points KC
The one that really sticks in my craw is our 'ally' France's refusal, on more than one occasion, to not allow US planes to fly over their air space, adding hundreds, if not thousands, of miles to our combat missions.
"Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance!"
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 13:47 ET by SickofLibsYes, Europeans, we are your natural allies.
That's why we have spent the last hundred years or so defending and saving your deeply cultured euro-asses over and over. Just don't turn to us again in 20 years or so to fix your self-created Muslim problem.
And you have done, for us, what exactly?
love the title of your post
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:35 ET by dark_dsThe Euros are free to be the wimp socialists that many of them are because we saved their rears several times and we have basically allowed them the ablilty to pursue thier socialistic ways because we have defended their world for the last 60+ years ... yes when their streets are filled with Islamists and those Islamists are crushing the Euro's culture and freedoms.... because at their core many Europeans are appeasers ... then shall we turn a silent ear to their plight? No, we as always will do the right thing
Eurotrash? No thanks.
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:04 ET by AndyR"While we're on the symbolism, let me remind you how many Europeans see U.S. voters -- as a trigger-happy bunch with a Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other.... "
So what's his point?
They drive these little things and pay 8 bucks a gallon for gas. We drive SUV's and pay 3 bucks a gallon.
If anything, minus the culture and some food, there is no reason for me to even venture across the Atlantic. Ridiculous prices and obnoxious people who feel we owe them something after bailing their sorry butts out of not one but two wars.
Warsaw Uprising
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:23 ET by Carl KolchakThe people fighting the Nazis in Poland in Europe during the Warsaw Uprising needed firearms. I'm sure the Nazis wished those people didn't have firearms so they couldn't resist them. The Gestapo also wanted to get rid of firearms from citizens as well.
http://www.warsawuprising.com/
A line in the sand
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:25 ET by RackieI'll be damned if I'm going to wear a diaper.
who believes in Democracy?
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:34 ET by RousseDo "Europeans" have a Constitution? What about a Bill of Rights? I am not bitter, but I am clinging to the 1st Amendment and 2nd Amendment.
Say, do you suppose England would let us have the Magna Carta? Looks like they don't want it anymore ... I mean as long as they are done with democracy, I'd like to have it.
Hey E.U.!
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 15:19 ET by UndercoverConservativeHow's that Constitution coming?
No, I said "constitution"-it's about rights for the people-you heard "consortium" and all you care about is your big cartels and controlling money.
Just to show how "cultured" I am, I'm giving you the "two fingers" the British use with one hand while the ol' American "bird" flies from the other.
Feck ov, and take yer bloody Socialism with ya!
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
The European Way
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 15:21 ET by VinncyGOf course America should do things the European way, say have some smart ass country try to take over the world every 60 years or so and hope and pray America can bail them out.
Or the other European way of having Muslims take over their country without firing a shot and then THEY expect the Europeans to adopt their way of life.
Excuse me, but after we vote against the current messiah running for the White House, I think we will stick with things the American Way.
Not looking for your approval Robbie
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 15:48 ET by 911isbusyHappiness is a warm AR-15.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1428268/new_record_11yo_girl_stripping_ar_15/
Those who have not swords can still die upon them.
Dear Europe
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 16:03 ET by Defector01We all believe you to be a bunch of nose in the air intolerant socialist wimps and guess what? It's actually true. Try manning up and defending yourself for a change before talking about us and "Change".
Love,
America
I have only ever made one prayer to God, a very short one: O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it - Voltaire
Is this European Enough?
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 17:07 ET by lareePlumbers against Obama, and Journalist for Obama too funny.
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/cant-believe-its-not-earned.html
Pot Calling the Kettle Black
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 18:25 ET by ConservativeMissourianInteresting that Oakley told McCain and Obama that "sounding tough from Washington is one thing" while HE bashes America (and Americans) from an island across the ocean! What a double standard.
Here is an image that
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 19:40 ET by USA4freedomHere is an image that Europeans should see:
Me shooting you the finger, Telling you to go _______yourself.
A little note for you Europeans with your nose in the air, stay in Europe, and be safe. Make sure when you run with that butter knife, you wear goggles, maybe a helmet too, just to be sure..
Candya$$
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
And this cowardly socialist
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 20:02 ET by nadadhimmiAnd this cowardly socialist re-inforces American's views of Europeans as cowardly arse kissers to Moslem terrorists. To sum it up, as a Brit, he is a SUBJECT, I am a CITIZEN.
Sowellogic
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 21:25 ET by acumenThere are countries in Europe that would love to have their unemployment rate fall to the 5.7 percent unemployment rate to which ours has risen. Yet those who seem to want us to imitate European economic and social policies never seem to want to consider the actual consequences of those policies. - Thomas Sowell
oakley
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 05:22 ET by fande3rlsSorry Mr. Oakley . WE left Europe ot get away from YOUR Damn stupity ... We do not want to be like european cowards who call for American blood when They are in trouble. SOCIALISM KILLS THE HUMAN SPIRIT!!!!!
My aunt lives in what
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 08:43 ET by GlitchMy aunt lives in what used to be a nice up-scale suburb of London. Where now the Bobbies have to carry H&K MP-5's and where Pakistani street thugs are running amok. We see how well the British and the rest of the EU handle crime and dictators. They will follow the just lay still and they won't hurt you ideal. My Grandfather came here to escape the oppressive British government and was a proud American til the day he died. My father was born here and so was I. I don't want to be European, I lived there and I can tell you it SUCKS! So to Mr. Oakley whome I am sure will never read this and all other ungreatful little Eurotrash cry babys. FECK OFF LEAVE US ALONE AND GO BEND OVER FOR PUTIN!!! And we should not give any foreign aid either finacial or military to any of the A-holes.
Americans are far more remarkable than we give ourselves credit for. We've been so busy damning ourselves for years. We've done it all, and yet we don't take credit for it.
My aunt lives in what
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 08:43 ET by GlitchMy aunt lives in what used to be a nice up-scale suburb of London. Where now the Bobbies have to carry H&K MP-5's and where Pakistani street thugs are running amok. We see how well the British and the rest of the EU handle crime and dictators. They will follow the just lay still and they won't hurt you ideal. My Grandfather came here to escape the oppressive British government and was a proud American til the day he died. My father was born here and so was I. I don't want to be European, I lived there and I can tell you it SUCKS! So to Mr. Oakley whome I am sure will never read this and all other ungreatful little Eurotrash cry babys. FECK OFF LEAVE US ALONE AND GO BEND OVER FOR PUTIN!!! And we should not give any foreign aid either finacial or military to any of the A-holes.
Americans are far more remarkable than we give ourselves credit for. We've been so busy damning ourselves for years. We've done it all, and yet we don't take credit for it.