Pressed by CNN, Warren Says Obama Had a Competitive Edge

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Rick Sanchez, CNN Anchor & Rick Warren, Pastor | NewsBusters.orgOn Sunday night’s Newsroom program, CNN anchor Rick Sanchez, pressed megachurch leader Rick Warren about Obama campaign charges that John McCain was cheating by not being in a "cone of silence" during Obama’s interview.

"Last night, I heard you say that McCain would be in a cone of silence, and then half-hour into the event, I hear our guys here at our political desk announced that McCain has just arrived at the worship center. And I'm thinking, you know -- hey, if he just arrived at the worship center, he couldn't have been in the cone of silence, right?"

After Warren give his initial answer about McCain being in a "Secret Service motorcade," Sanchez pushed two follow-up questions on the matter. In the first, he asked, "Did you think at the time -- when you said that, did you think he was in the cone of silence -- did you think he was in the building?"

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Warren admitted in his answer that he had given Obama a bit of an edge with regards to one question on large-scale government aid to orphans:: "...I also told Senator Obama, since there was one question where I was going to ask for a commitment, it was the commitment later about would you allow a PEPFAR type president's emergency plan for orphans, and I thought if I was going to ask them for a public commitment, I ought to let him know in advance. I got to tell Barack Obama that in advance. I did not get to tell John McCain that in advance. It caught him by surprise, I'm sure."

Sanchez didn’t seem to blink at the idea that Obama was favored. He stuck to the script that Obama was wronged and grew very specific in his point with his second follow-up:

SANCHEZ: I mean, just out of fairness. I mean, look, this is CNN. We try to be as exact as we possibly can. I just wanted to get it on the record, and, of course, there's going to be people out there, pastor, who are going to say, well, if he wasn't there, like a half-hour before the event started, what would have stopped him from watching an event that was on all three channels, on the radio, there's Blackberries, there's the Internet. There's everything else. So, I guess you don't know and I don't know whether he had the questions or not.

Despite this hinting at the possibility of McCain cheating, Sanchez concluded after Warren answered the third question, "Well, yes, and let's be fair. We called Senator McCain's office and they said that, no, we did not listen. We did not know. So what you're saying is part of that, we're just going to have to go on the honor system, and we certainly respect that."

The transcript of the relevant portion of the Sanchez and Warren segment, which began 16 minutes into the 10 pm Eastern hour of Sunday’s Newsroom program:

SANCHEZ: ...Let me ask you about this. Last night, I heard you say that McCain would be in a cone of silence, and then half-hour into the event, I hear our guys here at our political desk announced that McCain has just arrived at the worship center. And I'm thinking, you know -- hey, if he just arrived at the worship center, he couldn't have been in the cone of silence, right?

WARREN: Well, that's true. He was in a cone of -- a Secret Service motorcade. That's exactly for sure.

SANCHEZ: But you said -- I'm going to quote you. I will press you just a little bit on this, because I love this cone of silence thing, and I want to borrow it with my four kids at home, by the way. 'We flipped a coin,' you said, 'and we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence.' That's what you said.

WARREN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: Did you think at the time -- when you said that, did you think he was in the cone of silence -- did you think he was in the building?

WARREN: Actually, yes, I did. There was actually a question I got to Senator Obama in advance that I didn't get to Senator McCain because he wasn't there. I actually wrote down on a piece of paper the very first question, because I wanted them both to be relaxed. I said here's the very first question. I gave it to both of them to ask that. But I also told Senator Obama, since there was one question where I was going to ask for a commitment, it was the commitment later about would you allow a PEPFAR type president's emergency plan for orphans, and I thought if I was going to ask them for a public commitment, I ought to let him know in advance. I got to tell Barack Obama that in advance. I did not get to tell John McCain that in advance. It caught him by surprise, I'm sure.

SANCHEZ: I mean, just out of fairness. I mean, look, this is CNN. We try to be as exact as we possibly can. I just wanted to get it on the record, and, of course, there's going to be people out there, pastor, who are going to say, well, if he wasn't there, like a half-hour before the event started, what would have stopped him from watching an event that was on all three channels, on the radio, there's Blackberries, there's the Internet. There's everything else. So, I guess you don't know and I don't know whether he had the questions or not.

WARREN: You know what -- you know what? In the first place, we asked him. We flat-out asked him. Did you hear any of the debate -- I mean, any of the discussion, and I trust the integrity of both John McCain and Barack Obama that they said they would abide by the rules. They knew the rules way in advance, that I would not give them the questions. I did tell them all of the themes, and went through all of the themes, said here's the kind of question, the themes that I'm going to deal with. I'm going to probably throw out a question about the economy. I'm going to probably throw out a question about climate change, which by the way I never got to, and a number of other issues. But I would not give them the wording of what specifically -- like for instance, it is one thing to say I may ask a question about the courts. It is another question to say, which of the existing Supreme Court would you not appoint.

SANCHEZ: Well, yes, and let's be fair. We called Senator McCain's office and they said that, no, we did not listen. We did not know. So what you're saying is part of that, we're just going to have to go on the honor system, and we certainly respect that --

—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Rick Sanchez is the poster

Rick Sanchez is the poster boy for what is wrong with the MSM...

Yep...and he is still

Yep...and he is still blathering on about this very thing today on CNN...I posted somewhere else about this today....

He was definitely inferring that McCain was cheating again....and then at the end of all of the segment he made sure to say...but WE ARE NOT INFERRING that McCain is lying.

They never quit....they think we out here in the real world are all mindless robots like they are.

The fools.

Talk about desperate lemmings....they are already over the cliff....no turning back while we will get to watch them slowly drown. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

The Clinton News Network

I'm still laughing about the statement by Sanchez, "...this is CNN. We try to be as exact as we possibly can."  Who is he kidding?  Isn't this the same network who kept their mouths shut about what Saddam Hussein was doing in Iraq so their reporters wouldn't get kicked out of Baghdad?  And are these reporters and commentators too young to understand the reference to the "Cone of Silence" being the old TV show "Get Smart?"  Give me a break and stop carrying the Dem's water.

instead of "this is CNN" he

instead of "this is CNN" he shoulda said "we wanna be like FOX NEWS for a second here" 

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

Instead of this new slogan

Instead of this new slogan they have on Campbell Brown's hour show that proclaims No Bais No Bull...it should be Total Bias....Total Bull....

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

How stoopid do they think we are?

"I mean, look, this is CNN. We try to be as exact as we possibly can..."

... as long as it defames McCain and advances the Obama agenda."

Thou Shalt Not Lie

So, was Pastor Rick Warren telling a lie in that McCain wasn't in a cone of silence?

Maybe he didn't get the memo from EDWARDSGATE

Hmmmm...maybe he didn't get the memo from EDWARDSGATE:

"But being 99% honest is no longer enough."

The answer to terrorism IS war. Next Please!

Edwards Gets the Benefit of the Doubt

Let's see, Edwards gets the benefit of the doubt from these guys, but McCain does not. They throw out charges with no supporting facts underneath when it comes to McCain.

Red Headed Mule?

It's killing the media and the left (redundancy) that John McCain beat their candidate like a rented mule. There can be no other explanation for the wrinkly guy out-doing The Obama the way he did.

I haven't been able to watch much of the forum. I've read plenty. I've seen parts of both candidates' responses, and I don't know if I can sit through all the "uh, uh, uh, uh's" and the starts and stops of King Hussein. That matched with him whistling when he says "s" I can barely listen to the guy. My chemistry II teacher in high school had the same habit when he spoke, and it drove me crazy.

Barry must drive mockingbirds nuts when he speaks outdoors.

I get the impression that Barry isn't real sure of himself when he speaks extemperaneously. He stutters, hesitates, starts-and-stops, changes thoughts in mid-sentence (Clarence Thomas remark), and he constantly has to go back and re-state his actual position.

I can't remember it exactly, but his statement about the Russian invasion of Georgia was wimpy. I'm sure Czar Vladimir examined the response out of the Presumptive President. Unfortunately, when Barry is sitting in the Oval Office he won't get to do "do-overs" when dealing with Putin and the Russian military.

I wonder how Ukraine and Poland feel about this guy.

Wait, wait....I'm confused!!!!

I'm blonde, after all.

So McCain wasn't in the cone of silence, right?   But he was better prepared because he had the batphone to clue him in on his better answers.

And furthermore, that McCain isn't qualified to be president because he doesn't have a crackberry, and doesn't know how to use one?

And Rick the Idiot Sanchez is "going to respect that" after slinging mud?

(I may have to tell my Rick Sanchez story on BT & USA's bar forum, someday).

These librals are PATHETIC!  If they lose (anything)....it's always someone else's FAULT!

George Bush stole the election, and the Swift Boaters screwed F'ing out of the Presidency.  And Barack can't talk without a script, but it's GEORGE BUSH's fault.

Got it, never mind.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Yep.... Like I posted

Yep....

Like I posted elsewhere today...this is just total intentional distraction away from any critique of Obama and his pathetic tripe Saturday....

Intentionally taking away all of the great answers McCain did give.

It's all in the game.

They don't call it blood sport for nothing....and people are falling right into it.

I'm no McCain liker....but this is despicable no one is talking about the differences in the men with their answers in the forum...

Msm Mission accomplished.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Did you see McCain's speech to the VFW today?

He rocked.  

B. Hussein is now trying to charactarize McCain's remarks as an "attack"....how typical.  

Another thing I loved...McCain's answer the other night about what is "rich"....$5 million, after which he made it very clear that he was making a joke, even going so far as to say "I'm sure that will be taken out of context".....Today Barry grabbed onto that line like a bulldog.   Too bad he doesn't realize most everyone who cares about this stuff actually saw the remark for themselves!

I truly hope the polls stay really, really close, or better yet, that Barry falls behind.  Then he'll have to get out from behind Mommy's (Nanny P) skirts, and go mano a mano with McCain. 

Obama is pathetic.  And I smell panic from his campaign.  They remind me of a bunch of tech whiz kids.....great at all of the electronic wizardry, but when confronted with the reality of the real world, just totally go t.u. in a New York second.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Okay, you are a blonde and

Okay, you are a blonde and I'm a bomber pilot but we're on the same resonant frequency.  In my post @ 1824 you'll see a similar observation about McCain not being a technogeek.  Possibly Karl Rove was secretly beaming it out to us for posting here.

"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"

BnB,

You need to take that to the non-existent (yet, hint, hint!) USA/BT "Pick Up Lines in Bars and Cocktail" forum thread.  :) 

you are a blonde and I'm a bomber pilot but we're....

And that Karl Rove!!!!  Sheesh.  I think he may cut me off, I am seriously behind in paying for my Karl Rove Secret Awareness software update.  Better find my credit card.

P.S.  You may shoot me now, I have used THREE smiley faces today.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde.....speaking of Rove....

What if Obamatrons victory dance at the stadium gets rained out?  Do you think they will blame Rove and his "weather machine"......LOL 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Come on, BEGRUNT!

You've seriously been here long enough to know better.

It's George Bush's fault!

For cryin' out loud. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

But of course Blonde ;-)

I just thought the evil Bush would dust off the ole weather machine just to poke at Obamatron....... 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Well, you know

There's a secret pact between George the II and his leige lord, McCain (did you know he's running for the 3rd Bush term?).

Part of the cabal is that George must turn over the Weather Machine.  But the details must be worked out, now that Karl has escaped Shuster's frog march.  The keys have apparently been lost....well, kinda misplaced.  It's positively Machiavellian.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde.....your killing me!!!!....

ROTFLMAO!!!!!  That is one I'm keeping!!! 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Global warming being what

Global warming being what it is, do not rule out the possibility of snow.

"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"

BnB.....wouldn't that be....

justice!!!  All of them wearing parkas, and freezing to death.......next speaker....Al Gore...... 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

This is getting funnier by

This is getting funnier by the week. 

Over the past month we were hearing that McCain was a Luddite of sorts due to his inability to master the intracies of current communications technology (Blackberries & Internet).  Now he's mastered them so he can gain a competitive edge.

 "Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"

Hey

Hey Buff....

...Bingo!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

What's so hard about the questions?

Apparently it never occurred to anyone in the MSM that whether one had the questions in advance or not, there was nothing hard about them. Which of the questions was a "stumper"? "When does life begin"? If you can't answer that without a crib sheet (which Bambi couldn't), you sure as heck don't deserve to be president. How about taxes, foreign policy, gay marriage, I mean where was the obscure question that a "heads up" would help? Since McCain's always been pro-choice how would he have answered any differently even if he had heard Obama? It would be more telling if he'd answered DIFFERENTLY than he has in the past, duh. Clearly Obama was the one who knew he was in "hostile" territory being a proponent of INFANTICIDE and all, and knew that if his real answers were known, he wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting any of those people to vote for him. Imagine if he'd said, "Well in Illinois I voted to kill a bill that would stop the MURDER of babies even AFTER they're BORN, Rick. So when life begins is a mere bag of shells to me, I'll kill 'em even if they're sittin' on a shelf CRYING for food!"  

So clearly, the "uh's and umm's" and stops and starts were because this LIAR was trying to figure out how to FOOL the silly evangelicals with some cleverly cloaked, " I believe in Jesus too" junk, while not angering his blood fanged, baby killing, BASE! Or is that too harsh? LOL. 

Obama/ McCain and the Cone of Silence

Wow sounds like a Kurt Vonnegut story.  Mccain answered questions directly and Hussein danced around like Hillary hoping to please everyone.  As for Sanchez he may be 4th estate but he seems more like a fifth columnist.  McCain 2 weeks before was the boob of the year,  now Hussein says he cheated because he got his butt whipped.  And if you don't believe it go check out daily kos, their wetting themselves fretting how Barry the Wonder Boy got mopped up by a guy who they don't think can tie his own shoelaces.

"Don't let the bastards grind you down."

Red

If this is a preview of

If this is a preview of what's to come in the national debates, I think that Obama is in trouble.  I've noted early on that Obama is not very eloquent when he is forced to think on his feet.  He says a LOT of "uhs" and "uhms" which causes people to fall asleep.  I admit that Obama has a great voice and it plays well when he delivers a script, but when he shoots from the hip in a debate or Q and A setting he falls apart.

Unless Barry gets the

Unless Barry gets the questions first. I'm not saying Demorats would cheat....

I agree with you except the

I agree with you except the great voice part. His voice annoys me.

Its part of the conspiracy against Obama

See, McCain did better because he cheated, not because Obama answered the questions like a contract lawyer. Obama didn't visit the wounded troops because McCain's diabolical staff conspired with the Pentagon to keep him away. And of course the great Obama has told us McCain will use "black face" to scare us away from him.

 

Its all just on big conspiracy against the second coming of Obama.

DEMOCRATS: ALWAYS THE DIVERSION

DEMOCRATS: ALWAYS THE DIVERSION

Again
and again when democrats (secular socialists) get waxed on TV and can’t
worm out of it…they create a diversion from the substance, the
principles and the points made by a republican. So now its total
absolute baloney about some “cone of silence” that was breached soooo
the 71 year old computer illiterate suddenly “looked good”, very good.
The truth is Obama looked awful and his handlers also know it. Rather
than admit that… its fog machine “on”. He was staggered by his own
actions and words, nothing more.
Obama looked awful because he tried to walk the fence, kiss every
“wacko groups’ butt and appear a gifted genius like Buckley or Stein.
It failed. He had no gut principles because he is a 24-7 panderer. This
coward bragged a couple months ago he would debate McCain in the
townhall (no scripts) format “any time any place”… then he reversed
himself. Cowards without principles do that.

Any candidate with a spine goes before ALL audiences and takes his
best shot to convince them he has real ideas that make real sense.
Obama would get much instant respect if he would go on Fox News or talk
radio or unscripted town halls with McCain. Understand one thing, he
can’t…secular socialism is not an easy sell…his ultraliberal record is
not an easy sell, his missed or present votes are not an easy sell, his
partial birth abortion record is not an easy sell, his trillion dollars
of new taxes is not an easy sell, his wacko hate America buddies are
not an easy sell, his admiration of radical justice Ginsberg is not an
easy sell and his 3 by 5 inch card (one side only) resume is not an
easy sell…soooo
chances are he will only debate when 3-4 liberal diaper-changing TV moderators (who luv him) can toss him smiling softballs.
What does that tell you?
Cowards do what cowards do.
You want a coward to lead the nation? I don’t.

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Shoe-phone Shenanigans

"there's Blackberries, there's the Internet"

Don't forget his shoe-phone! Maybe McCain used his shoe-phone to get the answers from Hymie while he was sitting in the Cone of Silence with the Chief?

Man, these people REALLY ARE the TV generation!

wheels

HEY RICK,

HOW ABOUT A DRINK AND A DRIVE?!

Mr.L

Driving that train, high on cocaine

Add some cocaine to the mix and I'm sure Obama would join you. After all, it worked before.

Makes Perfect Sense To Me

This whole Cone of Idiocy flap is completely absurd, at about the same level of maturity as that Paris Hilton video but without the nice suntanned legs. It also makes perfect sense when you look at WHO is making a big deal about it: Liberal leaning news media personalities. The way I figure it since the Liberals do not win elections and instead employ devious little tricks, subtrafuge and if all else fails take their complaints to court, it makes sense that they expect that everybody else does the same thing.

So since their own playbook would have called for Obamarama to get some sort of an edge on McCain had the latter gone first, they not only naturally expect the reverse but actually view it as a foregone conclusion that McCain had to have been listening in somehow. It's exactly what they'd want their boy to do. The whole pathetic idiocy of Andrea Mitchell suggesting that McCain had a James Bond shoe phone and had someone at least funneling him the questions also makes perfect sense because these people think & behave just the the 9/11 conspiracy pinheads:

1) Come up with a theory (re: McCain cheated), 2) exclude all evidence or information to the contrary as tainted or untrustworthy (re: the denial is coming from  the McCain people) and 3) then find an explanation of how it could have happened, no matter how utterly preposterous (re: McCain had a special mini cell phone secreted in a hollow compartment in his shoe). Next, 4) leak just enough of a suggestion to the masses that sounds plausible but leave out the utterly absurd & improbable details as to how they decided he must have done it (re: no mention of the James Bond shoe phone, just a suggestion that McCain may have done something to stack the deck in his favor). Then 5) allow innuendo, inaccurate repetition of their thesis and zealous mis-representation of the facts amongst their attack dog moonbat idiot base to get the basic suggestion of impropriety with no proof to back it up out into the general populace.

Presto: One absolutely idiotic, absurd and demeaning suggestion of unfair tactics by a guy who was clearly prepared and rehearsed and sincere in his performance, trouncing their chosen victor. Since Obama did not come out on top McCain **MUST** have done something unfair -- the peformance cannot possibly be a sincere representation of his preparedness and superior grasp of the issues at hand. All you have to do is come up with some dingbat explanation of how he done it and work backwards. Also whether or not there is any proof of the allegation is irrelevant (a reversal of the John Edwards story), all that matters is the allegation plus coming up with a zinger angle that cannot be proven or disproven simply because of the nature of how it happened; McCain arrived after Obama's questioning started -- which was an inherently stupid way for this to have been allowed to proceed -- and wasn't searched for a shoe phone gizmo on his way out the door. The allegations can neither be proven or disproven, with only the pinheaded, ridiculous rumor left for people to mull over. Those with a penchant for cynicism & conspiracy thinking will tend to believe it, those who think rationally and explore all sides of  the dilemma will conclude that Ms. Mitchell and all of her lap dogs have zero credibility. The only determining factor is how many of the audience receiving this information are bent towards cynicism and/or already have an ax to grind for John McCain.

And that to me is where the damage here lies: I know a lot of decent, well meaning people who suddenly cannot stand John McCain because the press is making a concerted effort in teaching them to despise, fear & misunderstand him. It's a complete crock of steaming lizard feces, but if you're of the mindset it just gives you one more reason to not even bothering to listen. Andrea Mitchell should be fired for even suggesting any of this, which proves once again that as far as they are concerned this election is going to be decided by the press. The voters can't be trusted to make up their own minds and furthering complete BS like this will make sure they don't bother trying to.

Speaking of CNN: Troops Donated More Money to Obama

CNN presented a one-sided report on Monday’s Issue Number One program regarding a recent analysis by the supposedly ‘nonpartisan’ Center for Responsive Politics.

CNN correspondent Jim Acosta reported: “Barack Obama can do more than sink three-pointers with American troops. The Illinois senator is also netting plenty of campaign contributions from military personnel stationed overseas.”

Acosta: “According to a study from the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Obama has raised nearly six times as much money from troops deployed abroad than John McCain.   Anti-war Republican Ron Paul actually came in second. The center's Massie Ritsch stresses these donors are small in numbers, but they aren't shy about who they're supporting and why.”

The report by the Center for Responsive Politics is titled:Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to Obama. It seems like a small number of servicemen in the analysis when you consider that we have hundreds of thousands stationed abroad.

I’m not that familiar with the Center for Responsive Politics or their OpenSecrets website. But when Massie Ritsch, the Center for Responsive Politics Communications Director, who was part of the CNN report states “They were proud and certainly ready to serve their function and do the mission, but personally they believe that we're on the wrong track in Iraq and that's what this contribution is sending a message for”, I suspect a big chunk of liberal bias. How does Mr. Ritsch know why our troops overseas may be giving more money to Barack Obama?

Mr. Ritsch is a former reporter for the very liberal newspaper the Los Angeles Times. Susan Alger, the organizations’ Information Technology Director worked for five years at the Children’s Defense Fund, whose former board chairwoman was none other than Hillary Clinton.

Of course, the left-nut blogs are touting this report including The Huffington Post and the Daily Kos, among others

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"Obama could not shine Clarence Thomas' shoes!  He's not fit to shine Clarence Thomas' shoes." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Can you blame them??

If McCain were instead getting more military donations, this blog and others on the right would be touting it all the time instead of trying to downplay it. I don't think CNN's being biased by reporting this number. Back when I was touting it, Dr. Paul was kicking Obama's ass along with all the rest of the Republicans' asses. The facts about military donations to Presidential candidates invariably infuriated some folks here, but facts from me sometimes have a way of doing that...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

The fact is...

The "fact" is that most military members don't donate so it is impossible to extrapolate which candidate is favored by the troops simply by comparing which candidate gets the most in dollar amounts or total number of donations. Look at the figures for 2008, 323 donations from of almost a million troops stationed around the world. What does that tell you? It tells me that the troops are more concerned with voting than donating money they really can‘t afford to spare. After all, it’s only the actual vote that counts and that vote isn’t going to cost the troops anything, not even postage as troops can send mail postage-free.

That's how to spin it

If you don't like the figures, but those figures remain facts (no quotes required) until proven otherwise.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Well, if you read their

Well, if you read their report, you will know its complete BS. Their report clearly states the donation comparison only deals with donations in excess of 200 dollars, was taken from a very small sample group, and includes many government officials that most of us wouldn't consider representing the military. Its typical MSM spin trying to pass of twisted data to make it seem like most of the military have now chosen the path to salvation as deemed by the Chosen One.

I guess when McCain

I guess when McCain continues slapping around Bambi in future debates, he will be "cheating" in those as well.

It's pretty easy explaining why Bambi stutters "uh uh uh uh" alot when he speaks off script.  His handlers have made it very clear to him that he can't shoot his mouth off like the black liberation "community organizer" that he once was.  Bambi has about four or five filters between his brain and his mouth.  By the time his hard leftist rhetoric comes out, it is mangled beyond recognition.  His shrew of a wife is even worse.

McCain, on the other hand, is much more fluid and relaxed, because he doesn't have to triple-filter every single spontaneous word that he offers.

But... McCain is a cheater.  Check.

Killgrave

I think it's simpler than that.

If he's trying to say "Let me tell you why that baby needed to die", that's easy, but only the most hedonistic followers would buy into that.

"errr, uhmmm, ahhh above my pay grade" requires some real thought because although his joke flopped, followers can at least chuckle about his cleverness and disregard the issue.

That's nuance. That's consensus building.

I ♣ my seal

WHO cheated?

Preacher Man INTENTIONALLY gives Obama a question pre-forum, so he wouldn't be surprised, yet did not give McCain the same consideration.

Has the definition of cheating changed?

McCain Cheated

McCain had real-life experiences that perfectly illustrated his beliefs. Obama had only the invention of his lackluster imagination.

Even Obama's lies were predictable.

I ♣ my seal

CNN Logic

This is how logic is formed at CNN:

CNN: Didn't you allow "A" to happen?

Guest: Um no, actually "B" happened. I was there and saw the whole thing.

CNN: Well facts are facts, and we know "A" happened.

 

McCain wins Saddleback and it kills them

Even if McCain's motorcade was 1/2 hour late in arriving that means that he possibly heard some of the questions if he did cheat, if you believe the dems whining. Well what about the other half of McCain's performance. Just Luck?, what do you attribute that to?

Just admit that Obama lost and if you are so sure that he can beat McCain, then shut up and agree to McCains challenge for Town Hall debates. haha, not a chance of that happening after this and now we know why. 

My only advice to McCains people is why did you even give them the ammunition. He should have been there on time. 

Um Guys,

Um Guys, something I haven't seen mentioned yet... how were McCain's answers in this forum any different from his answers to questions at all his town halls?? Seems he got unknown questions thrown at him and answered them with straightforward, honest answers, why was this any different. Can you answer that Uh uh uhbama? That's right! YOU didn't attend any town hall's with McCain!

"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"

It Was A JOKE!

Seriously, did anybody bother explaining to the MSM that Warren's "Code of Silence" remark was a JOKE?  He's told anybody who'll listen.

Also, my mother (Conservative Republican who would vote for a dead body over a Marxist Dem) and I were discussing this, and I reminded her that B. Hussein Obama is a so-called "great orator" only when somebody else is writing his speeches and making sure he has a teleprompter in front of him.  She agreed and noted that practically anybody could have predicted his folding like a wet newspaper when hit with serious questions by watching his performances in the later debates with Hillary:  He really flounders when he actually has to give an answer instead of a clever soundbite.