During a segment on CNN’s "Newsroom" program on Monday afternoon, anchor Kyra Phillips voiced her clear objections to The New Yorker’s satirical depiction of Michelle Obama as a radical leftist and Barack Obama as a Muslim. "If I see this magazine cover, okay? And I mean, this is pretty racial. I mean, let's look at it again. You've got Michelle Obama in an Afro. You know, you've got, you know, her husband, Barack Obama, in a turban. We're talking about racism and terrorism. I mean, these are -- and burning of the flag. These are the most sensitive issues in our country right now. If I see that, I'm going to think, oh my God, is this who we want in the White House?" She later asked the question, "Do you think in any way that this cover sets us back, that it's more divisive than anything else and only proves that we're still pretty racially insensitive?"
Phillips made the comments during a segment in the 1 pm Eastern hour of the CNN program with two black political figures -- conservative radio talk show host Shelley Wynter and Los Angeles Councilman Bernard Parks, Senior. During her introduction of Parks, Phillips mentioned that the California politician was calling for a boycott of The New Yorker. In her first question, she asked Parks why he was "so outraged" about the cartoon. Parks replied, " I think it's outrageous that we have a cover that would depict racism, sexism, anti-religion, also anti-patriotism, and then on top of it, to try to draw a conclusion that Mr. Obama has some sympathy towards terrorism...."
The CNN co-host then directed her first question to Wynter, and out of the box, she made it clear that she didn’t see the cover as being satire: "Now Shelley, satire is supposed to be funny, it's supposed to be thought-provoking, it's supposed to be clever. Do you see this as over-the-top?" Wynter responded, "Absolutely not," and defended The New Yorker’s position. He later compared the cover to Jesse Jackson’s recent vulgar slam of Barack Obama: "If we're going to boycott The New Yorker, then I say I would just as well go down to Rainbow/PUSH headquarters and boycott Rainbow/PUSH for what Jesse Jackson said."
Phillips then made her remark that the cover was "pretty racial." In reply, Wynter shot back in disbelief to her position:
WYNTER: But do you -- I mean, do you really believe that? Do you really believe that if you see this article, this cover, excuse me, you're going to say to yourself, oh, this is Barack and Michelle. I mean, no way, this is crazy to me. This is satire. It's just -- no one was this outraged when someone had a painted -- had a cartoon of Condoleezza Rice as a pregnant black woman who had -- delivering a monkey as a baby. No one said anything. I didn't see the likes of Mr. Parks wanting to boycott that magazine that ran that cartoon. So this is satire, and so anybody that looks at a drawing of a cartoon and wants to say this is what my presidential candidate is going to be like, it's already ridiculous. They shouldn't be voting. They're retarded.
Parks voiced his basic agreement with Phillips concerning how some may see the cover: "I think you're missing the point in the fact that this magazine will be in newsstands across this country and internationally. No one is going to read the article to the fine point that you've just discussed it. It will leave the image and the impression of what the cover reflects..." He later proposed that the cover "hits at the lowest level of people's thought processes."
The final exchange in the segment began with Phillips asking if the cover indicated whether Americans were "still pretty racially insensitive."
PHILLIPS: Councilman, let me pose this, and councilman I'll start with you. I've known you for a long time. You've broken a lot of barriers as a black professional, being a police officer, the chief of the LAPD -- now, you're in the political arena. Do you think in any way that this cover sets us back, that it's more divisive than anything else and only proves that we're still pretty racially insensitive?
PARKS: Well, I think what it does is that it forgets that the eye of the beholder is the one that sets the judgment. It's not those who did the printing -- it's those who receive the message, and I think it does set us back, because every now and then, when you get something like this, you have to go back and look at the calendar and realize it's 2008, and we've just taken a major step back to where this wouldn't be acceptable decades ago. The fact is, today, you have more people that will speak out on it, but it wasn't acceptable in decades ago when people were going through many, many other issues that dealt with racism, sexism, so it's certainly not appropriate today.
PHILLIPS: Shelley, there's definitely a risk when you lampoon ignorance. That is for sure. Not everyone is going to get it. Can you give me the final thought?
WYNTER: I appreciate that. I'm just saying, if we're going to be politically-correct on satire, then what is the definition of satire? If you're going to knock down what's -- something that's clearly satirical, then what choice -- where do we go from here? Now, we have nothing out there, and I would say to Mr. Parks, if we're going to be set back, then we need to be as outraged at Jesse Jackson's comments last week because that set us back 150 years, back to the days of lynching, and because he said it, it doesn't take away from the fact that it set us back almost 150 years.
PARKS: Well, I don't think it's a benefit no matter who does the harm.
WYNTER: Fair enough. But there's no harm in this -- there's no harm in this --
PARKS: And I think no one -- anyone supporting Jesse Jackson, and I think what we need to do is find out how many people out of ten, understand what satire is and look at it in the face of what it is. It's a picture that depicts what could be the first couple of the United States in a very derogatory manner, and brings up all of the fears and anger which drives people to the worst conclusions they can come up with. I think that's totally inappropriate.
PHILLIPS: And gentlemen --
WYNTER: If nobody know what is satire is, they shouldn't be voting.
PHILLIPS: But Shelley -- but that's my final point. Is that when you lampoon ignorance, you know, not everybody is going to get it and it's risky. It's a definite risk.
WYNTER: That's what satire is. That's the definition of satire.
PHILLIPS: And we all appreciate it. Shelley Wynter, Councilman Bernard Parks. Gentlemen, great conversation.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.















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Sheesh, what a bunch of
July 14, 2008 - 17:36 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsSheesh, what a bunch of crybabies!! I think I will write up a first draft of a new game show called "Most Easily Offended" and submit it to the networks. People can win prizes for being offended by the most innocuous things, like a ball of string ('That's racist!!') or a light bulb ('You're destroying the earth!!').
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Oh, this is just too much.
July 14, 2008 - 17:38 ET by dronetekThis from the woman who AGREED that white people are inherintly racist, on one of their shows about race.
America is racist - in the
July 14, 2008 - 17:44 ET by TruthMongerAmerica is racist - in the very heart of the left wing
If this cover brings that to the surface - fine by me:)
More bias from the Obama run
July 14, 2008 - 17:44 ET by mjgMore bias from the Obama run media.
If I see that, I'm going to
July 14, 2008 - 18:02 ET by jwm45If I see that, I'm going to think, oh my God,
is this CNN or MTV?
Kyra, Dear....
July 14, 2008 - 18:44 ET by on-the-rocks"we" - the nation - the American people - have nothing to do with this magazine cover. It reflects nothing on us "average Americans".
It is the fault of New Yorker, its editorial board and its artist taking themselves and their "sophistication" a little too seriously. It is a reflection on them and them alone.
Just because we are not making a lot of noise over this means little. Rolling our eyes and thinking "What damned fools." doesn't make much of a sound.
Best
July 14, 2008 - 18:44 ET by Blondeanalysis and comment on this idiot cover, so far.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I agree, sort of
July 14, 2008 - 19:52 ET by txcoI think this cover is a reflection on the MSM lack of civility. My local paper has a replusive satirical caricature of President Bush almost everyday. They've spent the past 8 years destroying any sense of restraint and decency for anything. The New Yorker had to do something this drastic just to get a little attention away from them.
Ah tell you what. Ah was so
July 14, 2008 - 20:28 ET by Chris NormanAh tell you what. Ah was so derned bein' a-busy clingin' to mah guns, a-prayin', an' a-worryin' 'bout these immygrunts, Ah haven't had the tahm to find out that this here Obama ain't a muslin and his ol' lady ain't a terryust.
McNotObama '08
That had to be difficult to
July 14, 2008 - 23:10 ET by ThatDudeThat had to be difficult to type. It certainly was a moderate challenge to read. As for the cartoon, it shouldn't be especially offensive. Michelle's caricature is an extreme reflection of the black liberation church her hubby just threw under the bus. As for Obama, I don't even think it looks like he himself is painted as a terrorist. Possibly a sympathizer overreaching and losing his own identity to the muslims. The fact that he went to a muslim school and possibly holds some beliefs that align with the religion don't necessarily correlate to this in my mind. I saw this more as expressing how easily Obama could be manipulated by terrorists and his wife. Anyone else think that Michelle looks like she's the one with cojones in the cartoon?
In the end, it's nothing but a cartoon and at worst represents the beliefs of its artist. However, art is always open to interpretation. It's foolish to assume that everyone will find the same meaning out of any given piece. A single drawing like this really should have little to no impact in the real world. The problem is when the message is repeated over a long period of time like it has been with Bush.
I must apologize though, I forgot the commandment "thou shalt not caricature Saint Obama"
Not hard at all, I just
July 15, 2008 - 14:09 ET by Chris NormanNot hard at all, I just typed the way I'm supposed talk, as a conservative. The New Yorker has stated that the cartoon was meant to satirize the view of Obama by conservatives. In return, I was satirizing the view of conservatives by the New Yorker and other liberal elitists.
McNotObama '08
→ Whining Obamas
July 15, 2008 - 14:26 ET by Cool ArrowWhere was the outrage when New Yorker published this cover.
Maybe we better get ready for some real restrictions on Free Speech. Obama isn't going to wan to spend any more of his precios time putting down verbal insurrection.
He'll have goons cornering malcontents wherever they may be shoutig "RESPECT THE MAN!"
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
CA, There will be outrage,
July 15, 2008 - 15:20 ET by Chris NormanCA, There will be outrage, jest as soon as us ignorant conservative folk figger out that the 2006 Bush/Cheney cover of The New Yorker was insulting. We are kinda slow, you know.
McNotObama '08
→ Yup, Chris
July 15, 2008 - 15:24 ET by Cool ArrowLooks lak tew Rainchers discussin sumpum tween yew, me, and the fencepost.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Now I get it
July 14, 2008 - 23:06 ET by MidAmericageesh I guess I am slow. All those pictures of Bush and Cheney as monkeys or Hitler with articles describing how utterly stupid they are are were just SATIRE! They didn't mean it literally. They were lampooning the thoughts of the left-wing moonbats.
→ MidAmerica
July 15, 2008 - 15:27 ET by Cool ArrowThis week they are usng satire. It differs from lampooning only in its intent.
Maybe there's a semanticist here, but I think intent and reception are the differentiating factors.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
I'm choking,gaging,engorged on Obama 24/7 coverage...
July 14, 2008 - 23:34 ET by JayTeeGeez, these MSM guys and Gals really do NOT know what Journalism "is" or what "News Reporting" is all about..do they ?
They're making a fool of the Messiah......I may turn the TV back on and watch some of this "exposure" ..... sorta like "To Kill a Mockingbird", isn't it ?
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
You Kyra...I mean.... I
July 14, 2008 - 23:47 ET by bigtimerYou Kyra...I mean.... I just love Wynters response in this setting...
Phillips then made her remark that the cover was "pretty racial." In reply, Wynter shot back in disbelief to her position:
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
We weren't consulted
July 15, 2008 - 00:38 ET by nkviking75There were more than 300 million Americans who weren't consulted about this cover before it came out, Kyra. Don't generalize about all of us based on what the New Yorker did.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
This cover is as good as
July 15, 2008 - 01:07 ET by cocodrieThis cover is as good as when Al Capp drew Joan Baez as Joanie Phony in Lil Abner.
Irony is a device that is
July 15, 2008 - 10:16 ET by KillgraveIrony is a device that is completely wasted on stupid people.