In a statement reminiscent of Howard Dean’s controversial statement from 2005 about the RNC and "people of color," Time magazine columnist Joe Klein blasted Karl Rove’s recent slam of Barack Obama on Monday’s "Election Center" program on CNN. "I just think that the image is kind of hilarious when you think about it: Barack Obama at a country club sipping a martini. It's kind of a parody of the Republican view of the world. Everybody belongs to -- since when [did] we start letting people like Barack Obama into Republican country clubs?"
"People like Barack Obama"? That sounds like Dean’s "You think the RNC could get this many people of color into a single room?... Maybe if they got the hotel staff in there."
"Election Center" substitute host Wolf Blitzer read Rove’s quote earlier in the segment, which began 22 minutes into the 8 pm Eastern hour of the CNN program: "Even if you never met him, you know this guy. He's the guy at the country club with the beautiful date, holding a martini and a cigarette that stands against the wall, and makes snide comments about everyone who passes by."
Besides Klein, CNN senior political correspondent Candy Crowley and Republican strategist Leslie Sanchez participated in a panel discussion moderated by Blitzer. After calling Rove’s words "a pretty tough statement," Blitzer turned to Crowley to comment. She agreed with Blitzer’s take, and replied, "[I]t's aimed directly at the people that vote the most. This is a middle-class, sort of -- remember this guy. He's an arugula eating, Harvard law -- you know, his problem really isn't... it's not so much that he's an African-American. People seems to have, for the most part seemed, to have cleared that hurdle. It's not so much that he's a liberal Democrat. They seem to not care. It is that he is perceived -- what is settling in is, he's perceived as an elitist...."
Blitzer then asked, "How does the Obama campaign fight that?" Crowley focused on Obama’s tours of factories and events with women, as well as his new "bio ad." Sanchez then got in own the discussion, and highlighted the Democrat’s apparent authenticity problem. It was after this that Klein made his "Republican country clubs" remark.
LESLIE SANCHEZ: But, you know, it just makes me think of him as a show pony. I'm sorry, it sounds terrible, like you're putting him in all of these really contrived situations, when I think the question is going to come down to authenticity. Which Barack Obama is real? Is it the one that is this elitist image or is it the one who really does not connect with middle-class and working-class voters.
BLITZER: But John McCain is married, as you know, to an heiress some say worth $100 million, a beer distribution...
SANCHEZ: The biggest difference -- look, that's a great point, but the difference is, you have a legacy of Senator McCain. You know who he is. You know he's the maverick, and he's proven. You don't have that matchup, not directly, with Barack Obama. You're not really sure what to...
BLITZER: You agree, Joe?
JOE KLEIN: Well, I just think that the image is kind of hilarious when you think about it: Barack Obama at a country club sipping a martini. It's kind of a parody of the Republican view of the world. Everybody belongs to -- since when [do] we start letting people like Barack Obama into Republican country clubs?
SANCHEZ: Oh! That's terrible. (shakes her head)
KLEIN: But, you know, I think that the elitism argument has been a very fertile ground for Republicans in the last two or three presidential cycles. I think that they're going to try and work it, and I think that what Candy mentioned is very true. In that bio ad, there's a picture of Barack Obama with his two white grandparents, who are not the sort of people you would find in country clubs.
BLITZER: And they're certainly not elitist. They were real working-class folks back in Kansas....
Klein and Blitzer are clearly pitching in to help counter the impression that Obama is an elitist as well, between their bringing up Obama’s grandparents and Blitzer bringing up Cindy McCain’s fortune.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Oh my --
June 24, 2008 - 13:11 ET by mytwocentsSomeone needs to take JK out and pistol whip him.
Repubs know how Obama feels
June 25, 2008 - 11:47 ET by TruthMongerRepubs know how Obama feels - the MSM won't let us into their country club...
Quite a few Dems on this list:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/masters/2002-09-27-augusta-list.htm
Warren Buffet, Sam Nunn, former Georgia governor...
Joe Klein is an Elitist himself...
June 24, 2008 - 13:13 ET by AgentAmericanJoe Klein is a flaming elitist that would make the pigs from Animal Farm jealous. His occasional appearances on CNN as Time's Spin-artist are on cue with the general lefist message, such as the "country club" reference, which is inflammatory and cowardly.
Drill ANWAR
insisting that "all
June 24, 2008 - 14:55 ET by TruthMongerinsisting that "all Republicans are racist" is like saying "all black people are lazy bums..."
it's bigot talk...
Obama smacks of elitism all
June 24, 2008 - 13:14 ET by Dan The Man 2Obama smacks of elitism all the way, just the crowd he hangs with. Not o mention Harvard and his policies?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Another clever ploy by
June 24, 2008 - 14:32 ET by dscottAnother clever ploy by Dems, taking Rove's words without any context. Repubs have always been falsely smeared with the stereotype Country Club elitism talking point, the irony is Obama is an elitist. Obama and Michelle going to high society functions is a parody of the GOP, except that it is the Dems who revel in such functions. After all, how many Hollyweird people would want to associate with the GOP? What Klein has done is to engage in the typical liberal ploy of PROJECTION, attributing one's own failings (elitism) upon others.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Master Spinner
June 24, 2008 - 13:26 ET byRove spun George W. Bush from a sneering, elitist country club maven into a plain-spoken down home boy and won the election. Now he is doing the reverse spin on Obama. Karl is a master at the upside-downer spin cycle. Thank God he is on our side! There may not be a shred of truth in what he said, but he has the whole MSM repeating his utterances. Rove really knows how to create an echo chamber. Go Karl, go!
Now c'mon, shouldn't you be
June 24, 2008 - 13:47 ET by SickofLibsNow c'mon, shouldn't you be doing something constructive like collecting bridge tolls instead of wasting your time like this?
15' Grumman canoe with Minn Kota trolling motor
June 24, 2008 - 14:24 ET byWhy, jest the other day I was trolling and I caught two nice size bass on an articulated Rapala minow lure. Why would I want to waste my time collecting tolls on a bridge?
Nice! I gotta 15.5 Gheenoe.
June 24, 2008 - 14:27 ET by SickofLibsNice! I gotta 15.5 Gheenoe. You can stand on the gunnels and not flip it.
Flipped
June 24, 2008 - 14:41 ET byI have flipped many a time. Grumman boats are built to last, but aren't that stable. I have two. One was my Grandfather's boat. Family legend has it that it was one of the first Grumman canoes ever made. It is over 60 years old; still spry by John McCain years. I don't think it has been to an elitist country club yet, though. :)
Anderson...get a Ranger.
June 24, 2008 - 14:49 ET by bassndudeMy best friend is 19 feet long and sayes Ranger on it. Haven't fliped it yet, and we have been in some rough water a time or two.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Yes, but ...
June 24, 2008 - 14:53 ET byCan it handle white water rapids?
Drafts to much water maybe.
June 24, 2008 - 14:59 ET by bassndudeDrafts to much water maybe. Needs at least 9 inches to float the bow, raise the motor, and 12 inches aft is plenty.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Gheenoe = two inches draft,
June 24, 2008 - 15:17 ET by SickofLibsGheenoe = two inches draft, for real. Think shallow puddle.
http://www.customgheenoe.com/
always wanted to get a set
June 24, 2008 - 14:59 ET by TruthMongeralways wanted to get a set of twin 250's on the back of mine and and do some full-throttle crazy eights - that'll flip ya:)
Yeah, right because the
June 24, 2008 - 14:53 ET by zfYeah, right because the media and Hollywood/popular culture image of W is one of a elitist sneering country clubber and not a unsophisticated anti-intellectual hick.
Regardless of W's background, it is clear that he does share "home boy" sensibilities and he is plain spoken. Which is why the MSM hates him so much, he thinks too much like flyover state people.
It is really too late to suddenly claim the problem the MSM and liberals had with W. was that he was too elitist and country clubbish. Please.
Too Rich for Country Clubs
June 24, 2008 - 13:30 ET by iconoclastOf course Obama doesn't belong to a Country Club. He and his cohorts like Kennedy, Kerry, Palosi and the rest, are so rich they don't belong to Country Clubs. They own them. lol The guy is a troll.
If he golfs like he bowls...
June 24, 2008 - 13:43 ET by SickofLibsHOLY MOTHER OF PEARL, WHAT UTTER BS!!!
I just watched Caddy Shack the other night, and the soaking-rich Rodney Dangerfield probably had less money than the Obamessiah.
"Republican view of the world'? "Republican country clubs?" Is that clever code for all-white, or are you just playing your standard rascist shell game here?
Klein: please report to your nearest basketball court with a length of rope, throw it up and over and take us out of our misery. There will NOT be an eight day mourning period, tho.
When, when, when, are we ever going to see a black guy take the game of golf by storm and be able to play anywhere he likes?
Wink, wink.
June 24, 2008 - 19:18 ET by CrashJUST COME OUT AND SAY IT JOE ... BLACKS!!!!
Hey Joe, let me put it in simple terms, there are more bigots (yourself included) within the entire leftists platform than there have ever been on the conservative side. The problem with country clubs ... they are filled with snobs (Democrats included). I'm a white dude who lives in an "exclusive" enclave in Atlanta, you couldn't pay me to hang with those bores for a second let alone join a club. The left has their little club too, they call it the dependent union and they speak in codes with indirect phrases like "those people."
Surely Joe knows...
June 24, 2008 - 14:04 ET by Prester John...there are no such things as "Republican" or "Democrat" country clubs. There's only "money". And monied people hang out with monied people regardless of political affiliation.
Try another one Joe.
And surely he knows that
June 24, 2008 - 14:57 ET by zfAnd surely he knows that there are such thing as clubs (country and otherwise) made up of people that aren't rich. Yes, non-monied folk can be snobs too, Joe. He needs to get out more and realise us 'po folks living in wonderful poverty have got clubs to, some even might even have racists in them!!!!
Heck, in these here parts
June 24, 2008 - 16:35 ET by Eileen Rightwe even got us a gun club, y'all think that Obamer feller wants to join?
Is Dick Cheney the president
June 24, 2008 - 18:25 ET by dscottIs Dick Cheney the president of the Club??? Hehehe
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Nah, Dicks our
June 24, 2008 - 18:51 ET by Eileen RightWeapons Handling & Range Safety Instructor, wanna join???
Absolutely, if Obama gets
June 25, 2008 - 07:01 ET by dscottAbsolutely, if Obama gets elected we will all need lots of training to defend ourselves from al-Qaeda because it will be everyone for themselves at that point. A judge ruled that the police aren't obligated to protect the citizenry, their job is strictly reactive to crime. I'm not going to wait around to be picked off.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
When a lib talks about
June 24, 2008 - 14:20 ET by Chris NormanWhen a lib talks about "elitism", they mean the old liberal caricature of a cigar chomping little Monopoly man - who may or may not have existed seventy years ago.
When we talk about elitism, we mean the liberal types who consider themselves as the educated and cultural elites, who think they are the better bred and educated to control and make decisions for the people they look down upon. They consider themselves responsible to be keepers of the "poor", who they consider somehow "noble" and more worthy because of their poverty.
They look down on everyone else, with revulsion as "ignorant", "selfish" and "small-minded". These liberal elites stereotype these people in images that they, the liberal elites, abhor - fat, beer swilling, NASCAR-watching, WalMart-shopping cave people. The only difference is they haven't put us in re-education camps - at least - not yet.
When you think about it, it's not much different than the attitudes of the Marxists - not surprising, considering the education that the liberal elites absorbed in college.
Very good, Chris. That
June 24, 2008 - 15:40 ET by Indiana JoeVery good, Chris. That should be in a textbook somewhere.
How about the exclusive club in Malibu...
June 24, 2008 - 15:50 ET by AgentAmericanBarack Osamba is a member of the Malibu Country Club of Limousine Liberals.
Drill ANWAR
Thanks Joe. I have two UC
June 24, 2008 - 16:19 ET by Chris NormanThanks Joe. I have two UC Berkeley-educated family members from whom I have learned this. My sister-in-law is the worst. My brother holds many conservative positions, but can't bring himself to admit it. I really do believe it's a snob thing. They think, despite all of the sophisticated and educated conservative writers and commentators, that conservatism is the equivalent of being a "redneck". As you can imagine, this has made for some explosive dinner conversations over the years.
It's a great definition of liberal elitism
June 24, 2008 - 16:32 ET by Indiana JoeI c&p'd it for future reference. Might have to lift parts of it.
;^)
Lift away - I can supply
June 24, 2008 - 17:01 ET by Chris NormanLift away - I can supply photos of "Exhibits A and B", if you need 'em.
Hey Chris... I just read
June 24, 2008 - 16:33 ET by bigtimerHey Chris...
I just read your wonderful summation above and agree completely with IJ...
Excellent...
Plus, I was thinking about just the hike you had with your two family examples you just gave here...let alone family dinners...heheheee...
Snob definition indeed.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Thanks bt. The other night,
June 24, 2008 - 17:02 ET by Chris NormanThanks bt. The other night, while I was in the kitchen cooking for them and a liberal couple they had over, I heard the conversation turn to "global warming" and "what an idiot" Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma was. I called my brother in the kitchen and only half jokingly told him if the conversation continued in this vein, they could cook their own damn dinner. That must have worked. A few seconds later, I heard them laugh and their conversation turned towards landscaping or something. :)
You Crack me up Chris
June 24, 2008 - 17:19 ET by Dee BunkCan you come cook for my party sometime? I've got too many darn liberal friends and relatives. I loved your summation above also.
Chris... LMAO...you must
June 24, 2008 - 17:22 ET by bigtimerChris...
LMAO...you must be one helluva cook!
Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Oh, I'm a good little cook
June 24, 2008 - 18:06 ET by Chris NormanOh, I'm a good little cook and homemaker. They love my cooking (and my clean up - grrr). The other night I made them Fried Catfish (horrors) with a Shrimp Creole sauce served over it. My sister-in-law makes us keep the deep fryer in their garage!
My sister-in-law makes us
June 24, 2008 - 18:09 ET by bigtimerMy sister-in-law makes us keep the deep fryer in their garage!
Well now...isn't that just delcious?!
Tells ya' all you need to know...lol.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Bingo! Spot on imagery.
June 24, 2008 - 16:00 ET by stratmanBingo!
Spot on imagery.
Oh please.. Republican
June 24, 2008 - 14:20 ET by rimskyOh please.. Republican Country Clubs? That's too damn funny! ROTFLMAO!!
Well, I wouldn't join a club who had Klein as a member...
June 24, 2008 - 14:43 ET by jazboThat, I can say for sure.
Those who believe in nothing will believe anything.
Monty Python....
June 24, 2008 - 15:53 ET by AgentAmerican...did a classic sketch about the mouse problem where people would join secret club dressed as mice.
Klein is probably a member of the Sniveling Rat B*stard Club.
Drill ANWAR
Joe Klein...Mr.
June 24, 2008 - 14:47 ET by bigtimerJoe Klein...Mr. Anonymous...all he knows is dem talking points...he is as elitist as Obama and as empty-headed...they both have one thing in common for sure...sock puppets deluxe.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
→ Republican Country Clubs
June 24, 2008 - 15:06 ET by Cool ArrowKlein is lying of course, but I have another question
How many whites does the Black Caucus allow?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Last I heard, NONE
June 24, 2008 - 15:42 ET by Indiana JoeWasn't there a white representative who wanted to join the CBC because his district was majority-black? And they refused him, IIRC.
BO ain't want
June 24, 2008 - 16:27 ET by BodiniBO ain't want bein no part no publicun whitey bizness noway. Cuntree clubz ain't upta da roun ball an hoops we dun plays wit in da hood. BO dun sayed he gone ta put up da hoopz at da white houze noway. I spec itz to inbite some a dem upstandin NBA playas ova fer sum funz. (Ebonics ... gotta love it)
By the way, has JK ever heard of Tiger Woods? I don't know of any country club in America that would not welcome him, but then again he has a record of accomplishment. Again, it isn't the skin color ... IT IS THE MESSAGE of the PLAYA!
You make a very good
June 24, 2008 - 16:55 ET by red_dragon311You make a very good point,
and Barack H-word Obama is the PREFECT dem. a black man with NO RECORD and NOTHING to offer but the promise of "change" and if you bring up the fact that he is an empty suit...well you'er a racist of course, and in the lib eyes that is the worst thing you can be called.
and we are going to beat oueselves silly repaeting this
who keeps bringing up race? the libs
who wants to talk about issues and policies? Consevitives
if you want to bring up issues and policies that the dems lack in you are a racist
if you dismiss the fact that you are being called a racist ...you MUST be a racist
if you say " look I am voting for Barack H-word Obama so I CAN"T be a racist" isn't THAT racist in and of itself?
good lord, i need some duct tape
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
People Who Need People
June 24, 2008 - 18:02 ET by JohanDid anyone bother to ask Klein what kind "people" he thinks Barack Obama is?
And it wasn't really clear to me that country clubs were divided into Democratic ones and Republican ones. I guess the Democratic clubs are nicer seeing the Dems seem to have a lot of extra cash to throw around this election season.
And does Barack Obama golf like he bowls?
He shot a 137
June 24, 2008 - 18:46 ET by Eileen Rightand he's elated, beat his bowling score by 100!!!
ER... LMAO ... That was
June 24, 2008 - 18:55 ET by bigtimerER...
LMAO ...
That was rich!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Hey Joe!
June 24, 2008 - 19:48 ET by pbthinkerHey Joe, want to figure out how much Obama is an elitist? Just ask him 20 questions. I'll be that, before he's finished with 10 you'll be well on your way to figuring him out.
Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.
Ever been in a Republican country club, Joe?
June 24, 2008 - 21:37 ET by ToddonCapeCodI would ask Joe Klein, how would he know what went on in a Republican Country Club has been to one? And if he has, does that also make him a racist? And if he hasn't, it would only mean Joe doesn't know what he's talking about, which is typical for the drive by media: reporting on events they know nothing about.
Joe Klein - needs his butt kicked
June 25, 2008 - 06:19 ET by robertjacobGuys like this, when I was in school, would routinely get their butt kicked.
Joe Klein needs a good butt kicking.
Klein is totally off-base
June 25, 2008 - 08:34 ET by Hunter12Klein is totally off-base with the Republican Country Club comment. If we look at recent history, it was Ned Lamont who had to quit his country club to run for senator when he tried to steal Joe Liebermann's seat. I think he was a Democrat, as I recall. It would be interesting to see if he's rejoined that club after he lost.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill