
[Update: Keith Kerr was known to CNN as a gay activist as far back as December 2003, when he was featured in this CNN article.]
CNN, as part of its Republican debate with YouTube, failed to mention that retired general Keith Kerr, who announced he was gay after his retirement from the Army, is a member of Hillary Clinton’s "LGBT Americans For Hillary Steering Committee." Not only did General Kerr ask the question via a YouTube video, but he was also present in the audience, and got to ask the candidates for a "straight answer" (pardon the pun).
General Kerr’s, whose question came 47 minutes into the 9 pm Eastern hour the debate, is also part of the Servicemembers’ Legal Defense Network's advisory council, an organization "dedicated to ending discrimination against and harassment of military personnel affected by 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' and related forms of intolerance"
[See updates below: Bill Bennett mentioned Kerr's possible Hillary connection on CNN 30 minutes after the debate, and Anderson Cooper confirms this at the close of the 10 pm Eastern hour.]
Host Anderson Cooper first directed Kerr’s question to California Congressman Duncan Hunter, followed by responses from Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney. Cooper then asked Kerr if he was satisfied by those who had answered his question, and was given a minute to address the candidates. Senator McCain then replied to Kerr’s question.
A full transcript of the exchange between Kerr, Cooper, and the candidates:
BRIG. GEN. KEITH KERR, U.S. ARMY (RET.): My name is Keith Kerr, Santa Rosa, California. I'm a retired brigadier general with 43 years of service, and I'm a graduate of the Special Forces Officer Corps, the Command and General Staff Course, and the Army War College. And I'm an openly gay man. I want to know why you think that American men and women in uniform are not professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians?
ANDERSON COOPER: I want to point out the Brigadier General Keith Kerr is here with us tonight. I'm glad you're here. I give the question to Congressman Hunter.
CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN HUNTER: Yeah. General, thanks for your service. But I believe in what Colin Powell said, when he said that having openly-homosexual people serving in the ranks would be bad for unit cohesion. And the reason for that, even though people point to the Israelis, and point to the Brits, and point to other people having homosexuals serve, is that most Americans -- most kids who leave that breakfast table and go out and serve in the military and make that corporate decision with their family -- most of them are conservatives, and they have conservative values, and they have Judeo-Christian values. And to force those people to work in a small, tight unit with somebody who is openly-homosexual, who goes against what they believe to be their principles -- and it is their principles -- is I think a disservice to them. And I agree with Colin Powell, that it would be bad for unit cohesion.
(APPLAUSE)
COOPER: I want to direct this to Governor Huckabee. 30 seconds.
GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE: The Uniform Code of Military Justice is probably the best rule, and it has to do with conduct. People have a right to have whatever feelings, whatever attitudes they wish. But when their conduct could put at risk the morale, or put at risk even the cohesion that Duncan Hunter spoke of -- I think that's what is at issue, and that's why our policy is what it is.
COOPER: Governor Romney, you said in 1994 that you looked forward to the day when gays and lesbians could serve, and I quote, 'openly and honestly' in our nation's military. Do you stand by that?
ROMNEY: This isn't that time. That is not that time. We're in the middle of a war. The people who have watched...
COOPER: Do you look forward to that time, though, one day?
ROMNEY: I can listen to the people who run the military to see what the circumstances are like. And my view is that at this stage, this is not the time for us to make that kind of a decision.
(CROSSTALK)
COOPER: Is that a change in your position from when the time...
ROMNEY: I didn't think it would work. I didn't 'don't ask, don't tell' would work. That was my -- I didn't think it work. I thought that was a policy -- when I heard about it, I laughed. I said that doesn't make any sense to me. And you know what? It's been there now, for what, 15 years? It seems to have worked.
COOPER: So, just so I am clear, at this point, do you still look forward to a day when gays can serve openly in the military or no longer?
ROMNEY: I look forward to hearing from the military exactly what they believe is the right way to have the right kind of cohesion and support in our troops, and I'll listen to what they have to say.
COOPER: General Kerr, as I said, is here. Please stand up, General. Thank you very much for being with us. Do you feel you got an answer to your question?
KERR: With all due respect, I did not get an answer from the candidates.
(SOME APPLAUSE)
COOPER: What do you feel you did not...
KERR: American men and women in the military are professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians. For 42 years, I wore the uniform -- Army uniform -- on active duty, in the Reserve, and also for the State of California. I revealed I was a gay man after I retired. Today, 'don't ask, don't tell' is destructive to our military policy. Every day, the Department of Defense discharges two people, not for misconduct, not for the unit cohesion...
(TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES)
COOPER: What? The mike has been lost -- you've lost the -- is the microphone not working? All right. Please just finish your...
KERR: ...what Congressman Hunter is talking about, but simply becuase they happen to be gay...
COOPER: Okay. Senator McCain...
(CROSSTALK)
KERR: ...and we're talking about doctors, nurses, pilots, and the surgeon who sews somebody up when they are taken from the battlefield.
COOPER: I appreciate your comment. Senator McCain, I want to give you 30 seconds. You served in the military.
MCCAIN: General, I thank you for your service to our nation. I respect it. All the time, I talk to our military leaders, beginning with our Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the leaders in the field, such as General Petraeus and General Odierno, and others who are designated leaders with the responsibility of the safety of the men and women under their command and their security, and protect them as best as they can. Almost unanimously, they tell me that this present policy is working, that we have the best military in history. We have the bravest, most professional, best prepared, and that this policy ought to continued, because it's working.
[h/t to the Freepers on their live thread]
[Update, 11:23 pm Eastern: During the post-debate coverage on CNN, Bill Bennett mentioned that he was receiving 'a ton of e-mails' about Kerr being on Hillary Clinton's 'gay steering committee."
A full transcript of the exchange between Bennett and host Anderson Cooper, which took place at the bottom half of the 10 pm Eastern hour:
BILL BENNETT: "On that 'don't ask, don't tell' [question], I'm getting a ton of e-mails saying that this guy who asked the question was part of Hillary Clinton's gay steering committee. I don't know if that's true or not, but if he is, that certainly should have been disclosed...."
ANDERSON COOPER: "That's interesting. I had not heard the possibility that he is on some sort of steering committee for a Democratic campaign. [If] that's true...
BENNETT: I don't know. I'm just getting the e-mails to that effect.
(CROSSTALK)
COOPER: "...it would have been disclosed. Yeah, well no, it's something we should follow up on, because certainly I had not heard that, and had no knowledge of [that], nor do I think anyone here. And if so, that should have been certainly disclosed, and we would have disclosed that. I do know that he is an activist of some sort, but I had not heard that he's actually working for a campaign. If so, that would certainly be an issue that should be addressed immediately."]
[Update, 11:40 pm Eastern: At the close of the 10 pm Eastern hour of post-debate coverage, host Anderson Cooper confirmed the tips Bennett received.
COOPER: "Bill Bennett earlier mentioned he was getting some reports from friends of his on the Internet that Brigadier General Keith Kerr, who asked a question about gays in the military during this debate, was on a steering committee for Senator Hillary Clinton. That was something certainly unknown to us, and had we known that, would have been disclosed by us. It turns out we have just looked at it. Apparently, there was a press release from some six months ago. Hillary Clinton's office saying that he had been named to some steering committee. We don't know if he's still on it. We're trying to find out that information. But certainly, had we had that information, we would have acknowledged that in using his question, if we had used it at all.]
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.













Comments Policy
I heard that!
November 28, 2007 - 23:32 ET by dmntd1I was wondering about this guy when I heard the question. When he was asked if his question had been answered, I knew immediately he was a liberal. All of the liberals I know (most of my family) consider a question un-answered if they don't like the answer given. I think the candidates did a great job answering the question.
I really think that questioning others' masculinity is a game probably better left to people who haven't had more cock in and out of them than a Tyson Chicken regional distribution center. AceOfSpades 06162007
I agree.
November 29, 2007 - 07:35 ET by sarcasmoAt least, the ones who were allowed to talk...Since mine wasn't, in this case, I'll just re-post yesterday's Willie Nelson comedy*-link, since it applies to this thread as well.
JMR
*Not especially filthy, but probably not work-appropriate, either, so keep it down if you listen.
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
"Mamas, don't let your
November 29, 2007 - 07:47 ET by motherbelt"Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.."
A planted student and now a
November 28, 2007 - 23:38 ET by pocomocoA planted student and now a planted general. CNN is getting up in the world.
bill bennett just called
November 28, 2007 - 23:38 ET by the strugglerbill bennett just called cnn out on this
Do you have a link?
November 28, 2007 - 23:41 ET by pocomocoDo you have a link?
Should we be surprised?
November 29, 2007 - 02:47 ET by Gat New YorkAfter all this is the Clinton News Network.
Won't the liberals learn
November 28, 2007 - 23:41 ET by exLibDidn't libs learn their lesson with John Kerry? Or even Weasley Clark?
Just because you trot a general out who takes liberal positions doesn't give that side instant credibility.
Geez.
OK, guys, very interesting.
November 29, 2007 - 08:00 ET by motherbeltOK, guys, very interesting. But what, exactly, do you expect to happen to CNN as a result of this?
Just like the Clintons, they won't even care that they got caught. The question served its purpose.
Like the Clintons, they will just wait for this to blow over.
I'm praying for the day
November 29, 2007 - 08:08 ET by JimboI'm praying for the day when this type of stuff no longer blows over and rains down upon them. I know, I'll be waiting for a very long time.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
C'mon, CNN is just being
November 28, 2007 - 23:46 ET by SMGalbraithC'mon, CNN is just being fair to both parties.
Since they had Democratic activists from the audience asking questions at the Democratic debate, they also must have Democratic activists in the audience asking questions at the Republican debate.
Fair is fair.
SMG
CNN has disclosure issues
November 28, 2007 - 23:48 ET by Tobias2012It is like CNN is unaware that they will get busted for their continued trickery with staged questions that obviously carry water for the liberal agenda. Don't think a Republican was allowed within miles to the last Dem debate in Vegas, yet a Hillary activist is conviently placed in the front of the Republican debate. The people at CNN must be terrified of the Clintons.
Purple face syndrome
November 29, 2007 - 07:50 ET by celator"It is like CNN is unaware that they will get busted for their continued
trickery with staged questions that obviously carry water for
the liberal agenda."
I agree. It's like someone painting their entire face purple, and yet believing no one will notice. And if a person does say, "Hey, you have a purple face," the response is, "No, I don't. You must be a bigot."
Anderson Cooper is Gay
November 28, 2007 - 23:48 ET by PopularTechThe reason this segment was trumped up is because Anderson Cooper is Gay:
‘Out’ Ranks the Top 50 Gays; Anderson Is No. 2
The Power 50 The Most Powerful Gay Men and Women in America
Anderson Cooper's Gay Timeline
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
CNN has disclosure issues
November 28, 2007 - 23:49 ET by Tobias2012It is like CNN is unaware that they will get busted for their continued trickery with staged questions that obviously carry water for the liberal agenda. Don't think a Republican was allowed within miles to the last Dem debate in Vegas, yet a Hillary activist is conviently placed in the front of the Republican debate. The people at CNN must be terrified of the Clintons.
Setting the Agenda
November 29, 2007 - 00:15 ET by River CityThey don't care what conservatives think. As long as they win and we lose nothing else matters. Winner takes all.
"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6-28-04 San Francisco
Anderson Cooper just said
November 29, 2007 - 00:04 ET by JimboAnderson Cooper just said that CNN had NO IDEA the General was on one of Hillary’s committees, otherwise they would have said so.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
Yeah, like CNN has all that credibility to fall back on...
November 29, 2007 - 00:07 ET by RJNow the lying begins
Anderson Cooper = Liar
November 29, 2007 - 00:30 ET by fosstenAbsolutely Cooper was lying. He admitted to Bill Bennett ON CAMERA that he knew that Kerr was an activist, but he didn't know that he was on Hillary's steering committee? Give me a freaking break! How do you know only that he's an activist? You CANNOT SERIOUSLY EXPECT me to believe that they paid for this guy's plane ticket and seat at the debate and they DIDN'T VET HIM?
Somebody gimme a paper bag so I can calm down.
Forget 911, I dial 10MM.
LEON & your troll friends!! Where are ya!!
November 29, 2007 - 00:08 ET by PawpawNSeems LEON & his buddies have slivered over to there own websites!! Couldn't fool NB again!!
Dropping a Turd
November 29, 2007 - 00:22 ET by JimboThat's what a Troll does. Hit and Run
Someone said it the other day - They are like puppies who drop a turd in the middle of the living room then run and hide under the sofa to see who steps in it.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
How do you "sliver" over to
November 29, 2007 - 00:27 ET by balboaHow do you "sliver" over to a website?
It's "slither" you spelling
November 29, 2007 - 00:32 ET by fosstenIt's "slither" you spelling nazi troll.
I shall now follow every post you ever make and correct every fracking (you wanna correct that spelling??) word you misspell from henceforth, even forever.
Forget 911, I dial 10MM.
Yikes. Tutchy. No knead 2
November 29, 2007 - 00:36 ET by balboaYikes. Tutchy. No knead 2 freeck owt.
Troll Rule #48
November 29, 2007 - 00:37 ET by JimboTroll rule #48. If you can't make a valid argument (this is common), declare victory anyway. If that doesn't work, attack their spelling.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
I was amused by the goof-up,
November 29, 2007 - 00:39 ET by balboaI was amused by the goof-up, that's all. Cripes you guys are in a bad mood.
From spelling nazi to mood
November 29, 2007 - 01:14 ET by fosstenFrom spelling nazi to mood nazi.
Keep it up.
Forget 911, I dial 10MM.
Sliver
November 29, 2007 - 00:59 ET by PawpawNBroken into pieces and gone home!! A snake slithers. I like that also!!
See? That's the spirit! :-)
November 29, 2007 - 01:00 ET by balboaSee? That's the spirit! :-)
Just used a word I guess most don't use to describe people who i
November 29, 2007 - 01:11 ET by PawpawNJust used a word I guess most don't use to describe people who implode!!
Operatives
November 29, 2007 - 00:26 ET by Jerry MackIf he wants me to believe that he is this stupid, I'll have too agree with him.
Gay Army Guy
November 29, 2007 - 00:10 ET by River CityI know it is a small thing to some people but he was introduced as retired Army then as he was allowed to talk more we learned he retired from the California National Guard. This is not the same as retired from the active Army. Openly gay in the California National Guard is not difficult to do I bet.
This was the type of thing people were trying to avoid by pulling out of a You Tube debate. CNN, Anderson Cooper and their HRC allies are loving it.
"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6-28-04 San Francisco
General Kerr History
November 29, 2007 - 08:42 ET by OldSailor88This bio is straight, so to speak, from the horses mouth. He was a reservist and California National Guard for most of his career.
Zero credibility
November 29, 2007 - 00:22 ET by timotheThat's how much credibility CNN has. Zero. None. Zilch.
Time to go back to boycotting all things Time-Warner...again. (I did it the first time after they showed snipers killing our troops.)
I can't believe they let
November 29, 2007 - 00:27 ET by fosstenI can't believe they let this gay General speechify like they did. I simply muted his whole rant. I don't want to hear him speak, I want to hear the candidates. CNN really jumped the shark with this one - it was shameless, disgusting pandering.
Forget 911, I dial 10MM.
Exactly Fossten. THAT is
November 29, 2007 - 00:35 ET by JimboExactly Fossten. THAT is what was being booed. The liberals will now try to spin this as the evil Republicans booing a homosexual veteran and that the Republicans don't really support ALL the troops.
I see the equivilent of this as having a veteran at the Democratic Debate ask something like "How can you say you support me and my buddies when you already said the war was lost and our efforts are wasted? Oh yeah, and what's all that BS about cutting off our funding?"
Wouldn't that be great AND righteous??
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
No, Yahoo's front page story
November 29, 2007 - 09:37 ET by AJSHOPENo, Yahoo's front page story has spun it into the "fact" that the candidates were being booed.
Shameless
November 29, 2007 - 00:42 ET by iveseenitallRight on. CNN is shameless. Did you get the feigned "surprise" on Cooper's face when Bill Bennet mentioned the guy's affiliation? And yes, he actually said he didn't know and would "check it". Unbelievable! Just more proof that you can...
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
I'll say it again...NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal". The sneaks!
Bull
November 29, 2007 - 00:45 ET by JimboAnderson Cooper said that had CNN known he works on one of Hillary’s committees, they would have disclosed that. This is another lie. Can you imagine how that would have played out??
"In the interest of a fair and balanced debate, we have General so and so here with us tonight. He is a retired homosexual military veteran currently working on one of Hillary Clinton’s committees and he would like to ask the panel a question."
COME ON CNN!!! WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE KIDDING???? YOU ROLLED THE DICE AND GOT CAUGHT.
AGAIN.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
And the winner of the
November 29, 2007 - 01:09 ET by fosstenAnd the winner of the debate is...
BILL BENNETT, for exposing CNN's deception!
Gold star to Bill.
Forget 911, I dial 10MM.
What did Hillary Know?
November 29, 2007 - 00:51 ET by JimboHere’s another thought.
I have NO DOUBT that since this guy is on one of Hillary’s committees, that people in Hillary’s camp, if not Hillary herself, knew this guy was going to be at this debate tonight and ask this question.
Doesn’t that make Hillary’s team, if not Hillary herself involved in yet another “plant type situation”?
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
What Hillary knew
November 29, 2007 - 00:57 ET by Cool Arrow"If you're going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy".- Charles Manson
But Hillary herself knew nothing about it.
Clinton Buffers
November 29, 2007 - 01:01 ET by Jimbo"Oh yeah, a buffer. The family had a lot of buffers!"
- Willi Cicci, The Godfather, Part II
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
My question is.......
November 29, 2007 - 08:23 ET by OldSailor88Who at CNN screened the questions, chose the questions, then let the Gay General know that he would be a video, THEN gave him an opportunity to spew B.S.
The answer to that would explain many many things.
Wolf?
November 29, 2007 - 10:06 ET by JimboWolf?
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
CNN kept that a secret
November 29, 2007 - 10:11 ET by sarcasmoEven from CNN reporters, if I recall correctly. The baseball question was especially stupid, meaningless, biased toward even-MORE-time to Rudy, and most of all BORING. At least the snowman question everyone complained about last time was halfway-entertaining, despite being equally content-free....
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
The Baseball Question
November 29, 2007 - 10:20 ET by JimboThe baseball question to Rudy was supposed to be the equivalent of the Diamonds or Pearls question to Hillary. Of course, it wasn’t. It was designed to underscore Rudy’s unfaithfulness. I found it interesting that they went to Rudy for the final question. That tells me that CNN believes he is the greatest threat to Hillary.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
The Baseball question was
November 29, 2007 - 14:54 ET by general companyThe Baseball question was designed to loose Rudy NY votes, nothing less.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
gc.... Bingo! He
November 29, 2007 - 14:58 ET by bigtimergc....
Bingo!
He snapped back with a good answer too as far as I was concerned...hit it out of the ball-park.
Duplicate
November 29, 2007 - 00:53 ET by JimboDuplicate
Hillary
November 29, 2007 - 00:58 ET by iveseenitallI don't think the American people like this kind of thing. But Hillary just can't help herself. Sooner or later her dirty tactics are going to explode in her face. At least I hope so.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
The Times They Are A-Changin'
November 29, 2007 - 01:08 ET by PawpawNSee, previously in the 90's Hill & Bill got away with all this. Now too many checks and balances!! Geez now they gotta kill'em all!!
Kerr was featured in a CNN article all the way back in Dec 2003
November 29, 2007 - 01:03 ET by Jason AslingerThis guy was hardly a stranger to CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/12/11/gays.military.ap/index.html
J. A.- One of the guys in
November 29, 2007 - 04:02 ET by MidAmericaJ. A.- One of the guys in the article you reference is a Rear Admiral........... uuhhhh never mind.
Liberal spin on plant
November 29, 2007 - 01:05 ET by Tobias2012Now some of the liberals are trying to spin this in a way, ' well so what if he is activist can't he still ask a question?" Yeah just like a conservative activist was allowed to ask a question, out of the 6 staged liberals questions at the CNN Democratic debat in Vegas. Then once they were busted CNN pleads ignorance, when will the lying stop?
Is this guy compensated??
November 29, 2007 - 01:16 ET by JimboSomeone should find out if this guy is financially compensated for working on Hillary's comittee. If he's not, it doesnt diminish the deception, but if he is compensated, it takes this to a whole new level.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
Some CNN Insight
November 29, 2007 - 01:22 ET by JimboI was on the CNN website and was reading some of the readers comments reagarding the debate. Most were liberal, not surprisingly, but thought I would share this one:
Stephen Farley of San Francisco, California The bravery of the brigadeer general in the audience was the highlight of the evening.
Not taxes. Not the War on Terror. Not immigration.
It figures.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
Jimbo
November 29, 2007 - 01:28 ET by Cool ArrowIs it still bravery if you openly inviting incoming?
Only if you are standing
November 29, 2007 - 01:35 ET by JimboOnly if you are standing next to Hillary.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
I personally think CNN is
November 29, 2007 - 01:26 ET by JerI personally think CNN is guilty of being stupid rather than sly. Or maybe just stupid enough to not vet the vet. It would require an unprecedented level of idiocy to invite a high profile figure to raise a controversial issue at a Republican Presidential debate--knowing of his involvement with the leading Democratic contender--and believe he wouldn't be "outed".
Jer
I think they tried to be
November 29, 2007 - 01:33 ET by JimboI think they tried to be sly, and turned out to be stupid.
They didn’t pull this guy off the street. They knew who he was and what he was going to ask. It even turns out that he had some interaction with CNN before. Even CNN stated they knew prior that he was a Clinton supporter, but failed to disclose it.
Even so, to be fair to the Republicans in the same manner they were to the Democrats, they should have had a REPUBLICAN in the audience asking a question.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
Jimbo...That there was some
November 29, 2007 - 01:58 ET by JerJimbo...That there was some kind of interaction between the General and CNN is self-evident; even the presumption that he is most likely a Democrat, but if he is an active member of Hillary's campaign...well, that's inexcusable.
Jer
November 29, 2007 - 02:51 ET by MrShyBtw, when does the media start throwing up statistics on homeless gay veterans?
Then it's a 2-for-1... bashing Conservatives on the milatary AND gays.
:)
"MY end justifies THAT mean." - Shakespeare (not really)
south park just called CNN FONY
November 29, 2007 - 01:27 ET by oorampWHAT A WEIRD SHOW
I have a problem with glbt
November 29, 2007 - 01:52 ET by wiwfI have a problem with glbt offices being set up on my campus. It's not a "phobia" issue, it's an equality issue. NOWHERE do I see a "Heterosexual Student Services" next to the "GLBT Student Services."
Just more proof that there's no equality!
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
I have a problem with glbt
November 29, 2007 - 01:52 ET by wiwfI have a problem with glbt offices being set up on my campus. It's not a "phobia" issue, it's an equality issue. NOWHERE do I see a "Heterosexual Student Services" next to the "GLBT Student Services."
Just more proof that there's no equality!
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
I'm with Ron!!
November 29, 2007 - 02:16 ET by mastersofdeceitLOL. Dainty K loves ron paul. He's currently at 48% in the online poll. run ron run!
Hey Professa'
Anybody got a clue who was
November 29, 2007 - 02:29 ET by Right2thePointAnybody got a clue who was that girly shirly they had anchoring the after debate coverage on CNN.
If you had watched the debate and fell into that coverage in the aftermath, you would have to believe they dug up their 150th rated stringer to analyze it for us.
Hell the General looked matcho compared to this kid.
Damn those kind exist as 2 or 3 percent of society as a whole but we have to be shown them 15 or 20 % of the time just to have people say we don't discriminate against them.
Not only to mention that sister sister after the debate tossed down their whole coverage as makeing the republican debate a non important issue so we put in our third titty kitty.
We see in others...
November 29, 2007 - 02:35 ET by Parker1227...what we know in ourselves?
This questionable adage seems to apply quite well to the FOX News boycott by the Dem candidates.
They assume that FOX will treat them unfairly because they witness the Pubs getting the shaft from the rest of the MSM 24 hours a day.
Has anyone done a count on the number of alternative POVs put on by FOX compared to the other cable news outfits?
Don't think so Parker
November 29, 2007 - 02:40 ET by Cool ArrowI think Dems avoid FOX because George Soros tells them to.
Simply put the devalued the
November 29, 2007 - 02:43 ET by Right2thePointSimply put they devalued the debate on CNN by putting on that lightwight in the loffers noweight on as a follow up trailer. They had many other choices to even do a lib spin we had it our way idea, but this kid just set it off to no mans land without any chance of recovery.
When he switched off to the
November 29, 2007 - 02:52 ET by Right2thePointWhen he switched off to the girl commentors and they had to balance it by being a bit manly in how they spun the whole thing all you have to do is watch their face and see how they are saying just Why to F is CNN putting me here to have to answer questions from this clutz?
Look just over the generals
November 29, 2007 - 03:00 ET by Right2thePointLook just over the generals left shoulder at the lady with the black hair.
Trust me on this she isn't going to say to him honey you got a chance to do me tonight since I like how you said that. Even the black guy next to her had a oh no not me look on his face.
Just why did CNN have this
November 29, 2007 - 03:15 ET by Right2thePointJust why did CNN have this girly shirly running out in front on their after debate coverage and no one of their we know left like it's the back of our hand liberals instead.
Has any one but me noticed
November 29, 2007 - 03:22 ET by Right2thePointHas any one but me noticed that CNN has had all the hefty lefites remain silent tonght.
The tune hasn't been sung. They have self muzzled in the interest of good faith.
Right I got that mostly they are chocking on their chicken but who would know.
Another Thing!
November 29, 2007 - 04:16 ET by TeamcheeserDid anyone else catch the segment with the 24 "undecided Republican voters" that did the approval analysis? They interviewed one "at random" and asked if she had a clear cut (or a couple) favorites after the debate.
Her answer?
John Edwards.
I kid you not.
I was sitting here chewing
November 29, 2007 - 04:30 ET by Right2thePointI was sitting here chewing down a couple of chicken busicuits at the time when that bit of wisdom crossed the screen and I almost lost an 24 inch lcd being punched out at that moment and said to myslelf a real real big WTF.
Focus Group at Debate was setup
November 29, 2007 - 09:10 ET by fosstenI watched that segment VERY carefully. My conclusion:
These people were NOT average republicans. The woman who chose John Edwards didn't even know the candidates' names. She pronounced Rudy's name "Giuliano." Who the FRACK hasn't heard of Giuliani? And if she hasn't, what the FRACK was she doing in a panel at a nationally televised DEBATE? She clearly was a plant.
You could tell the black guy wasn't familiar with any of the candidates either. "I liked, uh, um, er, what's his name - ? Huckabee? Yeah, him! And the other guy, uh, the one on the end?" (At which point the questioner fills in "Congressman Duncan Hunter?") "Yeah, Hunter! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
This was such an obvious, pathetic, sophomoric setup designed to discredit all of the candidates and the Republicans in general.
Forget 911, I dial 10MM.
I totally agree
November 29, 2007 - 10:14 ET by NCConservativeI didn't watch much of the debate with my full attention, but I did catch these "undecided Republican voters" afterwards. The thing I found interesting about the John Edwards response was that they knew ahead of time what the woman was going to say because they teased it with something like "and the answer she gives may surprise you." That was most certainly not off-the-cuff.
The purpose of that group was so obvious I knew I shouldn't be surprised but was anyway. Giuliano? Really? Any legitimate undecided voter who is interested enough to attend (or watch) a debate would at the very least know the names of the candidates.
I found the whole thing to be yet another embarrassment to CNN, and another piece of evidence to support their underlying intent.
I think that there can be
November 29, 2007 - 04:34 ET by USA4freedomI think that there can be some silver lining behind this.
#1, A large part of America will see this as standard Clinton M.O. It will remind them over and over just how slimy they are.
#2, the crowd that watches CNN hate us for the most part,but having CNN get caught “twice” with the fix in on the debates does not look good.
We will never win over the moon-bats but there are a lot of people that sit on the fence and look at our guys (I wish they were more conservative) and compare them to their three,: A lying crook, or a newbie/almost rooky Senator, or a pretty boy lawyer/ that can channel the dead. Our worst looks better then their best.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Yeah. The "Big Three"...
November 29, 2007 - 04:55 ET by TeamcheeserYeah. The "Big Three"... eek.
Look at the experience and qualifications of those three. Two junior sentators and a one-term southern democrat that would've been CRUSHED had he run for reelection.
Throw in Al Gore from 2000 and John Kerry from last time and you've got one heck of a puppet show!
Someone should do a take-off on Gilligan's Island starring the democrats!
Gilligan - Bill Clinton
Skipper - George Soros
Millionaire - Kerry
And his Wife - Teresa
The Movie Star - Hillary
The Professor - Al Gore
and Marianne - John Edwards
Here on Gilligan's Island!
Forget about Hillary...
November 29, 2007 - 04:28 ET by TeamcheeserIt doesn't matter if this general was or is a part of the Hillary campaign. The simple fact that he is a liberal "Activist" -- and CNN's Cooper admits to knowing that prior to the debate -- is reason enough to not have him ask a YouTube question!
The fact that he is a part of Hillary's machine is delicious though!
And -- COME ON! -- CNN invites the guy to sit in the audience, hands him a microphone, and gives him a couple minutes to talk to the entire world... but they didn't know who he was?
Puh-lease!
CNN is blatantly dishonest and they should be called to the carpet, lose all credibility (I know what you're thinking...), and only be available on pay-per-view with the money collected going to pay for the liberal entitlement programs they hold so dear!
Hell I want someone to try
November 29, 2007 - 04:36 ET by Right2thePointHell I want someone to try to spin that these were "average republicans" asking questions.
One More Thing...
November 29, 2007 - 04:32 ET by TeamcheeserI guess it was an attempt to be fair that the Republican debate ended with a "fun" question because the Democrat debate ended with that phony "diamonds or pearls" crap for Hillary.
But think about the message behind the "fun" question for the Repubs, which was posed to Rudy. Basically it was, "Why did you stab your city in the back and root for the Red Sox? Why can't you be faithful?"
Even the "fun" question had to be negative...
Teamcheeser, you are spot
November 29, 2007 - 04:37 ET by USA4freedomTeamcheeser,you are spot on, even when they are trying to be nice/funny, they are rotten.Diamonds or pearls, it should be switches or coal..
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Okay, Okay... One More Thing...
November 29, 2007 - 04:39 ET by TeamcheeserThe YouTuber guy that asked about believing every word of the Bible was just plain creepy. You could feel the hatred he had for the Bible from his short, but not short enough video; "This book right heeeeeeere..." Ugh.
Although I thought the candidates did pretty well with their answers, unquestioningly my response to this yahoo would've been, "Religion is a personal matter and it's, quite frankly, none of your business. Putz."
Do folks like this make it a habit to ask these sorts of questions of their doctors, teachers, car dealers, chefs, neighbors, friends, dates, and therapists?
Romney Nearly Blew Bible Question
November 29, 2007 - 09:29 ET by fosstenI watched this closely. The question was, "Do you believe every word of this book [the Bible]?"
Romney: Yeah, I believe it, it's the Word of God. I try to live by it, I'm not perfect, yada yada.
Cooper: So how do you answer the question, Do you believe every word of it?
Romney [hesitating and frowning]: Yeah, I mean, I - I - it's the Word of God - yes, I believe it.
The reason for his hesitation is that Romney is a Mormon. Mormons believe that the Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus Christ. In other words, yes they believe the Bible, but the Bible isn't the entire story, and the Book of Mormon takes priority. So he was displaying an inner conflict which (luckily for him) he was able to keep to himself, for the most part.
Forget 911, I dial 10MM.
Members of the Church of
November 29, 2007 - 10:08 ET by Airforce_5_OMembers of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe the Bible to be the word of God and correct but has lost some of it truths due to many translations down through the centuries by man.
LDS members do believe the Book of Mormon to be correct in it’s translation but it does not take priority over the Bible. It is a companion to the Bible in testifying to the Divinity of Jesus Christ.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
I don't even have a clue
November 29, 2007 - 04:44 ET by Right2thePointI don't even have a clue about who "won" the debate but each and every one of our guys held together well under an assault of liberal left questions for the entire night.
And all the other side can do is run and cry because Fox wanted to have them on for a debate.
I have been looking at the
November 29, 2007 - 04:53 ET by Right2thePointI have been looking at the left side for their reactions to this debate and it's simply nothing , they have totally starved it of air like it never happend and this is after yards and yards of commentary and comments after the last democrat debate.
That might be because
November 29, 2007 - 05:02 ET by TeamcheeserThat might be because talking about this debate will lead to immigration becoming an even bigger issue. With the exception of Ron Paul, the Republicans were united on the war effort. The true battle was who could move the furthest to the right on immigration.
I thought all of the candidates had good moments and not so good moments. I think Rudy did worse than Mitt, Huckabee, Hunter, and Tancredo, but I also think CNN set it up to accomplish exactly that.
I respect a lot about McCain, but I often don't "get" where he is coming from. Too often.
Just WhoTF was that person
November 29, 2007 - 05:04 ET by Right2thePointJust WhoTF was that person that they had on in the aftermath of the debate? Was that Andersons latest squeeze. That girly girl he she should have sat it out big time.
I'm flat out not buying
November 29, 2007 - 05:22 ET by DaMavI'm flat out not buying that CNN didn't know who this guy was and that he worked for Clinton. As others have pointed out he was flown in and given special microphone time and privileges.
It seems this is a major opportunity to make the contrast between Republicans standing up to the dirty tricks of CNN and debating and Democrats cowering in fear of Fox.
This incident does not show that CNN is "biased". It shows that they are part of the Democrat Party campaign.
General Fruitcake's opening
November 29, 2007 - 08:23 ET by KillgraveGeneral Fruitcake's opening diatribe was so obviously scripted and rehearsed. Mewonders if Rodham wrote it herself.
So CNN is claiming ignorance? Isn't this unforgivable in "journalism"? Isn't a journalist's first priority is to get his/her facts straight?
Unless CNN issues an unconditional apology they have lost all remnants of credibility. Period.
Another silver lining: if CNN gets spanked enough over this this should muzzle their liberal operatives at least for a couple months. I think they're finding out that their arrogance can only go so far.
SCANDAL
November 29, 2007 - 12:22 ET by iveseenitallWhen a major news organization colludes with one candidate or party to destroy the other, we've lost our free press. This is SCANDAL. Congress and the FCC should get involved. Hillary Clinton 's dirty tactics are reminiscent of Commmunist Russia. This is not an exaggeration. If Hillary is elected, forget this country as we now know it. Cry SCANDAL!
BTW, CNN flew the guy in for the debate. And they didn't even know who he is. Amazing! What more proof does anyone need?
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Oh, LEON, where are ya???
November 29, 2007 - 17:16 ET by PawpawNWhere are the trolls on this??